Grabe naman 12:34... kahit di ko gusto yang dalawang yan, may family din sila na magluluksa if ever. Wag ganun. Isipin mo na lang kung parents mo ang sabihan ng ganyan. I-wish na lang natin na dagdagan pa buhay nila para makapagsisi pa sila sa mga nagawa nila sa kapwa bye 👋 😅
Mali po yung mga presumptions dito. May 1st wife si TBC na mom nitong namatay. Then got separated legally. He then remarried to Denise Yabut but has since separated but still technically married to her.
Patricia “Patty” Cojuangco-Kierulf is the daughter of Bingbing Tuazon Quiros, the first wife of Tony Boy Cojuangco. Denise Yabut was but is still legally the wife of Tony Boy because the marriage was never annulled to this day.
Yes. Pagkaalam ko walang anak si Denise and Tony Boy pero bet nung matapobreng Nanay kaya never naipa-annul ang kasal nila. That's the reason kung bakit di rin mapakasalan ni TBC si Greta despite na fact na mas matagal na silang nagsasama
9:21 mamanahin lang ng apo ang pagaari ng parent nya when she was alive. Since ang mana nya Kay Tony boy ay considered a future property, hindi pa considered na pagaari na ni Patricia. In short, having predeceased Tony boy, Patricia did not inherit anything from Tony boy yet, unless trinansfer na ni Tony boy, by way of donation, ang supposedly, future mana ni Patricia.
Under Philippine Law, if a father dies without a will, the illegitimate child gets only 50% of what a legitimate child is entitled to. If the legitimate child pre-deceases the father but that legitimate child has a legitimate offspring of her own, then whatever the now deceased legitimate child was entitled to goes to the offspring. In effect, if TB does not have a will whatever P was supposed to get will fully be given to P's child.
Now, if TB has a will, 50% of all his assets (called the "legitime") will still follow the above formula. Thus, it is TB's "apo" (child of P) will will get majority share of 50% of his legitime assets. Under the law, the "apo" is a compulsary heir by right of representation -- meaning the "apo" takes the place of P as the rightful heir to the share of P.
It doesn’t work that way. The legitimate wife is still an heir. Dominique is an illegitimate child and she is way below the legitimate relatives in the hierarchy. K lang si Gretchen, remember?
Unless me last will and testament kung paano or aling property mapupunta kung kanino. If none then by batas 50% sa wife and the rest of 50% sa mga anak. If namatay ang anak then sa apo since siya yung direct bloodline based sa family hierarchy. At mas magandang me last will kasi mas madugo if wala. And honestly mas okay sa parents na habang buhay pa mai partition na yung properties sa mga anak kasi mas mahirap pag wala na kasi mas nagkakaron ng gulo at away. Based on my experience sa pag aasikaso ng mga transfer of properties.
Hindi ka ata aware sa constitution ng Pilipinas dear 11:11. Illegitimate children have the same rights as the legitimate ones. Meron ka pang way below the heirarchy na sinasabi
10:28 PM - Illegitimate children get half of what legitimate children get. The wife gets 50% if they had a conjugal partnership. The wife and legitimate children get equal portions under absolute community. We have to know what property regime was in place to know for sure how the inheritance will be apportioned among compulsory heirs. Dominique is considered a compulsory heir at this point because she was acknowledged by her father. Regardless of which property regime was in place, Dominique is only entitled to half of what Patricia is entitled to. And yes, Patricia's share will go to her spouse and child at this point.
11:11 Before you comment, sana gumawa ka ng konting research kasi napaka-ignorante nong statement mo na "way below the legitimate relatives in the hierarchy". Walang ganun teh. And I quote- while there are distinctions between the rights of legitimate and illegitimate children in the Philippines, the latter still possess significant legal rights, especially in matters of support and inheritance.
Dear1211 Ikaw ata hindi familiar sa laws.. under articles 895 of civil code.. illegitimate child gets half the share of legitimate child... Hindi po same Ang legit At illegitimate
12:11 ikaw ata and hindi aware or sinasadya mo magbigay ng false information? While they do not receive the same share as legitimate children, they are entitled to half the share of a legitimate child. This means if a legitimate child inherits a certain portion of the deceased parent's estate, an illegitimate child would inherit half of that portion. and one more thing, this is not about philippine constitution, this is under the rule of family code, specifically rights of succession. sobrang mali yang theory mo na Illegitimate children have the same rights as the legitimate ones. paconsulta ka sa sampung abogado and educate yourself.
50 percent sa spouse, 50 d percent hati hati spouse and anak (yes, kasama pa din spouse). Yung illegitimate, 1/2 lang Ang bilang, according to family code.
@ 12:11, hindi tlga pantay ang mana ng illegitimate at legitimate.. kalahati lng ng sa legitimate ang mkukuha ng illegitimate child. And the legal wife gets 50%. Un legal family prin ang priority at protektado ng batas.
Actually when you think about it, feisty ang older Barretto celeb women (Marjorie, Claudine and Gretchen) but they’re all loving mothers. Swerte mga anak nila.
You’re making it sound as if they’re exceptional mothers. It’s only because people set low standards for them given the controversies, so when they do normal mom stuff, all of a sudden they’re amazing? Uh-uh
10:02 I share the same sentiment with you. I think social media has played a big part on making simple things exceptional nowadays. Like yung simpleng pinapayungan ng tatay yung anak habang siya yung basang-basa, they call him ulirang ama. But that's what every normal parent should and would do, right?
10:02 - illegitimate children can get half of what a legitimate children can inherit. Sample: 100% of assets to be inherited - 50% will go to the legal spouse (presumably there was no prenup and properties are conjugal) - the remaining 50% will be divided as follows: 20% wife's inheritance 20% legitimate child 10% illegitimate child
Nakakatawa lang di ba? Ultimo yung rights ng legitimate or illegitimate children and wife naungkat na din imbes na mag-offer ng condolences or sympathies.
such a sweet message from Dominique. i love the wedding photo where everyone was looking ay the camera except for Dominique, who was looking lovingly at her sister. you can tell she (Dominique) is very fond of her sister.
Why?!!! She is the nicest!!! 😭😭😭
ReplyDelete1:24 PM - It's usually the nicest, because they're ready. Seriously, Enrile and Imelda are still alive right. Nuff said.
Delete12:34 hahaha
DeleteHahahahah this at 12:34
DeleteGrabe naman 12:34... kahit di ko gusto yang dalawang yan, may family din sila na magluluksa if ever. Wag ganun. Isipin mo na lang kung parents mo ang sabihan ng ganyan. I-wish na lang natin na dagdagan pa buhay nila para makapagsisi pa sila sa mga nagawa nila sa kapwa bye 👋 😅
DeleteDidnt know na may sister pala siya. Kaninong mother sya?
ReplyDeleteTonyboy's first wife Bing Bing Tuason Gonzales
DeleteAkala ko kay Denise Yabut
Delete2:05 No not first wife, WIFE pa din nya hanggang ngayon.
Deleteclose pala sya sa half sister nya
DeleteDenise Cojuangco ang first wife ni Tony Boy
DeleteTonyboy's first and legal wife is equestrian Denise Yabut Cojuangco. She was the daughter of former Makati mayor Nemesio Yabut.
DeleteBingbing Gonzales was once married to Tonyboy Cojuangco, who was also married to Nise Yabut but separated and is now with Gretchen Barretto.
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2:24 nag correct ka pa mali ka naman hehe first wife si Bingbing. Second and current wife si Denise.
DeleteMali po yung mga presumptions dito. May 1st wife si TBC na mom nitong namatay. Then got separated legally. He then remarried to Denise Yabut but has since separated but still technically married to her.
DeletePatricia's mom was the first wife of Tony Boy. Their marriage was annulled. Denise is the 2nd wife.
DeleteEto yung anak ni tonyboy na favorite ni lola meldy cojuangco. Glad to know na bati bati sila ni dominique.
DeletePatricia “Patty” Cojuangco-Kierulf is the daughter of Bingbing Tuazon Quiros, the first wife of Tony Boy Cojuangco. Denise Yabut was but is still legally the wife of Tony Boy because the marriage was never annulled to this day.
DeleteYes. Pagkaalam ko walang anak si Denise and Tony Boy pero bet nung matapobreng Nanay kaya never naipa-annul ang kasal nila. That's the reason kung bakit di rin mapakasalan ni TBC si Greta despite na fact na mas matagal na silang nagsasama
DeleteOmg. How sad this must be for them lalo na sa father :( Condolence
ReplyDeleteIlan ang anak ng dad ni Dominque? Akala ko si Dominique lang
ReplyDeleteSame. Akala ko si Dom lang biological daughter
DeleteDominique is the sole heir now .She loves her big sister so much .😭
ReplyDeletemay family - asawa at anak yang sister nya, so NO... not the sole heir
DeleteApo na lang tawag dun. Iba pa din pag anak.
Delete10:50 But they still are heirs because they get to claim a portion of the estate later on.
Delete10:50 hindi porke sinabing HEIR ay anak na. Tagapagmana ang Heir.
DeleteMay karapatan ang apo sa dapat ay mamanahin ng mother nya.
9:21 mamanahin lang ng apo ang pagaari ng parent nya when she was alive. Since ang mana nya Kay Tony boy ay considered a future property, hindi pa considered na pagaari na ni Patricia. In short, having predeceased Tony boy, Patricia did not inherit anything from Tony boy yet, unless trinansfer na ni Tony boy, by way of donation, ang supposedly, future mana ni Patricia.
Delete10:5o hindi mo alam meaning ng heir? Hindi yun ANAK
DeleteMga shunggaers! Ang anak may mana basta may mga naiwan na anak or apo!
DeleteUnder Philippine Law, if a father dies without a will, the illegitimate child gets only 50% of what a legitimate child is entitled to. If the legitimate child pre-deceases the father but that legitimate child has a legitimate offspring of her own, then whatever the now deceased legitimate child was entitled to goes to the offspring. In effect, if TB does not have a will whatever P was supposed to get will fully be given to P's child.
DeleteNow, if TB has a will, 50% of all his assets (called the "legitime") will still follow the above formula. Thus, it is TB's "apo" (child of P) will will get majority share of 50% of his legitime assets. Under the law, the "apo" is a compulsary heir by right of representation -- meaning the "apo" takes the place of P as the rightful heir to the share of P.
I seconded the legal opinion of 9:56, as what the law says.
DeleteShe was my block mate in Assumption. She was genuinely nice and soft spoken. I am shocked by this news. RIP Patty.
ReplyDeleteSame. She was so nice. RIP Patty. Prayers and comfort for your loved ones.
DeleteSame. Always so well mannered and true class act. May you rest in peace Patty.
DeleteOmg went to Assumption with her! May she rest in peace.
ReplyDeleteOh my!! What happened to Pat?? I think she is only on her 40s. Ang sad naman..
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DeleteShe was close to her. And yet everything about that, Dom made private. RIP and condolences.
ReplyDeleteI guess itong mga next gen baretto wants to keep their personal lives private and quiet.
DeleteAng bata pa niya to be gone soon. Ano kaya ikinamatay😮💨. Condolence po
ReplyDeleteApril 19 sya namatay. She was only 47.
ReplyDeleteIn the photos where she was holding Dominique's daughter she looked really thin so I was thinking maybe she's been sick.
ReplyDeleteAs per google 2 lang silang anak ni tonyboy,does it makes dominique the sole tagapagmana of tonyboy?condolence to the family
ReplyDeleteBaka diretso na sa anak ni Patricia.
DeleteIf may anak si Pat, may makukuha din sila.
DeleteSa palagay niyo ba ay walang last will and testament si Tony Boy?
DeleteNope. May legal wife pa tsaka mga anak nung namatay.
DeleteCorrect me if I’m wrong..
Delete50% - current/legal wife
50% - Patricia (goes to her spouse & child) and Dominic
It doesn’t work that way. The legitimate wife is still an heir. Dominique is an illegitimate child and she is way below the legitimate relatives in the hierarchy. K lang si Gretchen, remember?
DeleteUnless me last will and testament kung paano or aling property mapupunta kung kanino. If none then by batas 50% sa wife and the rest of 50% sa mga anak. If namatay ang anak then sa apo since siya yung direct bloodline based sa family hierarchy. At mas magandang me last will kasi mas madugo if wala. And honestly mas okay sa parents na habang buhay pa mai partition na yung properties sa mga anak kasi mas mahirap pag wala na kasi mas nagkakaron ng gulo at away. Based on my experience sa pag aasikaso ng mga transfer of properties.
DeleteHindi ka ata aware sa constitution ng Pilipinas dear 11:11. Illegitimate children have the same rights as the legitimate ones. Meron ka pang way below the heirarchy na sinasabi
Delete10:28 PM - Illegitimate children get half of what legitimate children get. The wife gets 50% if they had a conjugal partnership. The wife and legitimate children get equal portions under absolute community. We have to know what property regime was in place to know for sure how the inheritance will be apportioned among compulsory heirs. Dominique is considered a compulsory heir at this point because she was acknowledged by her father. Regardless of which property regime was in place, Dominique is only entitled to half of what Patricia is entitled to. And yes, Patricia's share will go to her spouse and child at this point.
Delete11:11 Before you comment, sana gumawa ka ng konting research kasi napaka-ignorante nong statement mo na "way below the legitimate relatives in the hierarchy". Walang ganun teh. And I quote- while there are distinctions between the rights of legitimate and illegitimate children in the Philippines, the latter still possess significant legal rights, especially in matters of support and inheritance.
DeleteDear1211 Ikaw ata hindi familiar sa laws.. under articles 895 of civil code.. illegitimate child gets half the share of legitimate child... Hindi po same Ang legit At illegitimate
DeletePwede naman nahati/nailipat na ni tony boy sa mga anak niya at kay Gretchen dati pa. Daming ways legally para walang makuha yung legal wife.
Delete12:11 ikaw ata and hindi aware or sinasadya mo magbigay ng false information? While they do not receive the same share as legitimate children, they are entitled to half the share of a legitimate child. This means if a legitimate child inherits a certain portion of the deceased parent's estate, an illegitimate child would inherit half of that portion. and one more thing, this is not about philippine constitution, this is under the rule of family code, specifically rights of succession. sobrang mali yang theory mo na Illegitimate children have the same rights as the legitimate ones. paconsulta ka sa sampung abogado and educate yourself.
Delete50 percent sa spouse, 50 d percent hati hati spouse and anak (yes, kasama pa din spouse). Yung illegitimate, 1/2 lang Ang bilang, according to family code.
Delete@ 12:11, hindi tlga pantay ang mana ng illegitimate at legitimate.. kalahati lng ng sa legitimate ang mkukuha ng illegitimate child. And the legal wife gets 50%. Un legal family prin ang priority at protektado ng batas.
Delete12:31 is korek
Delete11:44 khet may last will kapag i-contest yan based on legit reasons--batas pa din ang masusunod
DeleteGretchen must be doing good as a mother ♥️
ReplyDeleteActually when you think about it, feisty ang older Barretto celeb women (Marjorie, Claudine and Gretchen) but they’re all loving mothers. Swerte mga anak nila.
DeleteYou’re making it sound as if they’re exceptional mothers. It’s only because people set low standards for them given the controversies, so when they do normal mom stuff, all of a sudden they’re amazing? Uh-uh
Delete10:02 I share the same sentiment with you. I think social media has played a big part on making simple things exceptional nowadays. Like yung simpleng pinapayungan ng tatay yung anak habang siya yung basang-basa, they call him ulirang ama. But that's what every normal parent should and would do, right?
Delete10:02 - illegitimate children can get half of what a legitimate children can inherit.
DeleteSample:
100% of assets to be inherited
- 50% will go to the legal spouse (presumably there was no prenup and properties are conjugal)
- the remaining 50% will be divided as follows:
20% wife's inheritance
20% legitimate child
10% illegitimate child
Any mother is an exceptional in her own way. And the likes of La Greta na puros controversy it is amazing to see her daughter act like that. There
DeleteIt depends on last will and testament
DeleteRIP
ReplyDeleteI wonder if she was ill? So young..
ReplyDeleteBaka mana kagad nasa isip ng mag peeps dito...
ReplyDeleteNakakatawa lang di ba? Ultimo yung rights ng legitimate or illegitimate children and wife naungkat na din imbes na mag-offer ng condolences or sympathies.
DeleteMaraming talaga mukhang pera... mga nagsisimba pa mga yan...
Deleterip po.
ReplyDeleteJusko kayo, yung anak ang namatay hindi yung Tatay bakit pinagtatalunan niyo agad kung kanino mapupunta ang mana!
ReplyDeleteNakakaloka di ba?
Deletesuch a sweet message from Dominique. i love the wedding photo where everyone was looking ay the camera except for Dominique, who was looking lovingly at her sister. you can tell she (Dominique) is very fond of her sister.
ReplyDeleteSad naman. So young pa...
ReplyDeletemahahatian ba tayo ng mana?
ReplyDeleteCondolences to the family.
Grabe, yung mana talaga ang inisip niyo.
ReplyDeletePara kayo mga engot naga away away pa kayo. Wala kayong mana, wag nyo problemahin yan kasi ok sila. Ang toxic nyo. May her soul rest in peace 🙏
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