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Saturday, December 28, 2024

TikTok Scoop: Kiana Valenciano Answers Demand for Refund






Images courtesy of TikTok: kianavee

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  1. Naku pinang pasko at new year na lang sana nila yung pera because truth is they didn't get their money's worth! REFUND (di pala ako bumili Lol)

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    1. Kawawa un mga 15k. Pang lechon big size na un ahahaha tapos pano kung may ka date pa. So 30k. Lechon baka na. Lesson learned na yan sa mga bumili. And unless di na magcoconcert si Gary V ulit, ayusin nila yan. Kasi kadadalaan sila. Actually napanood ko na dati si Gary V sa concert. Front act siya nung 2 members ng F4 ahahah. Un may stampede pa nakakaloka. Putik putik ako after. Umulan kasi kaya naghalo un tubig at lupa hence putik. It was more than 20 years ago. Inip na inip na nga kami nung nagpeperform si Gary kasi gusto talaga namin makita un dalawang F4. Pero kung concert lang niya nakupo. Pass.

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    2. i remember Regine's Silver concert.. paos sya.. pinilit nya pa rin until talagang di na nya kaya ikanta pa un boses nya. the crowd sung with her kc hirap na and naawa na din kami s knya. naiiyak na din kami pra s knya. she knew that those who came did not get their money's worth so she promised to reschedule and told the crowd to keep our tickets kc un ung gagamitin pa din.. and indeed, the repeat was like her last kc sobrang all out sya. birit kung birit. kami na nga ang sumuko haha!

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    3. Eh bat kayo kay kiana nagpaparefund? Tapos ang bastos pa kung makademand. Mga walang heart.

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    4. Dami nilang eme ending hindi pa rin sila magrerefund

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    5. Burn si Kiana sa question nyang Were you there? Yes nandun sya at nagbayad.

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    6. Matthew 23:12: "For whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted" 

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    7. Aq, ayos lang no refund, kc yang makita lang namin si Gary V. Ok na kami. Sa mga nega comments, good luck sa buhay nyo, ang anghang nyo

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    8. Andun din ako sa concert ni Ms. Reg. Sobrang sulit kasi maraming nagperform at tumulong sa kanya. Andun din si Vice nun. Pero hindi na ako nanood nung pangalawa kasi from the province pa ako, binigay ko sa friend ko yung ticket. Sobrang saya kasi dalawa kami nakapanood. Hehe. Sobrang sulit for me.

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    9. Yung nga bumili ng 30k tickets may not be the ones demanding for a refund. Madami silang pambili ng lechon.

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    10. The producers should issue a statement soon para matigil na ang sagutan between the refunders and Gary V’s family. Of course, both camps are right.

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  2. Kadiri mentalidad ng pinoy. Ambabastos. Im sure there is a plan in place how to address the issue. But people are so quick to judge and worse nanghaharass pa

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    1. Pano nang haharass eh wala naman talaga silang sagot na matino sa nanood ng day1. Blindsided nga eh kaya dumating sa calling out, wag silang magmalinis in the 1st place they know Gary cant finish the show!

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    2. will they release a statement for the plan next week? next month? next year?..a waiting game? or maybe never?

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    3. sila pa ngayon yung nang haharass eh ang organizers ng concert yung napaka unprofessional dahil ilang araw na wala pa rin statement how they will make a refund so gets ko yung frustation ng mga naka bili ng ticket tapos wala naman napanuod na concert

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    4. That's what I feel too. Bakit kaya sia bumibili ng concert tickets na hindi talaga sila fan.

      Kasi if fan sila they will be understanding na no one wants to be that sick.

      Pero siguro for the Gary V team wag na lang ituloy lahat ng remaining concerts and refund them. Kasi if something happen again (which is not impossible) wala na silang excuse.

      Also, Regine & Gary V situation is different level naman ng pagkakasakit kaya don't compare.

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    5. Drama, Guilt trip, Gaslighting, Anger and Denial, the 5 stages of Kiana V NKKLOKA

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    6. Naka 9 songs naman daw di ba?.. Maging considerate naman yong audience sana. Di naman ginusto yong ganong pangyayari. Buhay nya yong nakasalalay don eh.

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    7. 4:17 But the audience aren't satisfied. They paid good amount of money for it. Hindi nama siya CHARITY CONCERT. 8x nagsuka. Dehydrated na. Kaya nga may IV na eh. Nag cancel na lang sana kasi mahihirapan din namang matapos. Then nagrefund. Tawag dun foresight. With Dignity and Respect intact. Unlike this.

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    8. 4.17 when u invite ppl to ur concert u want the tickets to sell not just the glory of being on stage kasi useless if wala bibili, of cors u have to deliver. If alam mo naman na physically ur not able why force it, its a dis service not just to urself but also your audience. Although ppl can be understanding u cant expect everyone the same or to just accept it. Its opportunistic to want more to invite ppl make ppl pay when u know youre not 100% all in the name of money and fame.

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    9. Bakit pa po kasi pinilit magpa concert eh may long-term illness? Hindi pa mas napaka unprofessional nun @4:17?

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    10. Pag hindi satisfactory ang performance, just refund and move on. SOP yan. Bat ang daming kyeme ng organizers at etong si kianang di sumikat sikat, na para bang ayaw ibalik ang datung?

      At the end of the day, this is a transaction: pera kapalit ng entertainment services.

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    11. 11:56 mas kadiri yung ang pinaparamdam sayo pag nang hingi ka ng refund eh hindi ka makatao o makadiyos. People who bought tickets were promised a good show, not “a day in the life”, so no, Kiana, wag kame!! If you failed to deliver, kesehodang may kalamidad pa yan o emergency, even sa batas, unfulfilled promises have liabilities..

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    12. Hello 6 songs, anong nagkaiba ke Regine pareho silang may sakit when they started the show but Regine MANLY acknowledged na hindi success ang concert so she decided for a repeat.
      Alam nila hindi natatapos ang show bat pinilit tapos never acknowledged the day 1 concert. Day 2 parang walang nangyari kung tlga health concern nagpagaling sya pero hindi MONEY TALKS

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    13. I was one of those who bought 4 tickets to the Dec 20 tkts. We understood the situation at that time. But I think we deserve to see the whole show as those who went to the Dec 22 show. Management being quiet is being insensitive to those who paid hard-earned money to see the show. They should have released a statement by now. Kaya pati ako, being a patient person that I am, na turn off na.

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  3. Honestly, Kiana, I'm disgusted with your answers. We do not see Gary V. perform everyday unlike you and we paid with our hard-earned money. Even if we are concerned with his health, you should also consider the public that spent thousand of pesos for his concert. And as a Christian, we do not want you to be perfect but the very least, answer with manners. Hindi yung may pag wag ako wag ako ka pa diyan. Who started all this brouhaha ba???

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    1. Yup. Ang bastos. Nakakairita basahin mga responses nya.

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    2. Sana di na lang nag reply. Acknowledge the complain and assure everyone that you will refer it to the management team. Wag entitled. Di man lang makapag-empathize.15 thousand is a lot to many who works hard. Out of touch ka, girl.

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    3. "Balls" ? What happened to Bible verses Kiana?People are demanding because you made no announcements regarding refund or whatever.Ngayon na lang dahil lumalaki ang apot. We have our own Dads with Godly values,we did not go to the concert to be with yours.We wanted entertainment,an escape from our hard life,paid by our hard-earned pesos ok?

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    4. Fair ba na yung VIP tix magiging GA?! Bat walang immediate refund offer?! Or offer another concert date? Are you in such dire financial straits at di kayo maka-offer ng another date?

      At the end of the day, be professional. You all knew he was not feeling well during rehearsals. Ang hirap lang siguro ng lagay ni Gary kasi he's frail and sickly pero parang buhat pa rin niya ang pamilya nyo. Palibhasa mga hindi kayo sumikat. Ano na Kiana?

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    5. The difference with Regine is nung alam na nyang di na nya kaya talagang tapusin pinilit pa nyang magrelease ng promise na uulitin just keep your tickets at yun uli ang gagamitin. Ito di naman na pinipilit si Gary na ulitin ang concert at irefund na lang kahit half ng ibinayad pero bat parang nagagalit pa ang mga concerned individuals?

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  4. Yung mga senior artists na may medical condition should just do a tv special or an online/youtube show.
    May kita naman sa views and ad sponsors.

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    1. Maliiy compared sa concerts. Pero agree ako na they should initiate either a refund or reschedule the show kahit baguhin yung set

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    2. Totoo! Wag nang pilitin, please lang!

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    3. I agree para hindi mapagod, stick with live streaming

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  5. Bakit parang ang hirap sa mga Valenciano ang word na "refund"? Full of drama, lies and gaslighting si Kiana V.

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    1. Mahaba ang Christmas list.

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    2. kasi they need to pay for the venue and production. ilan ba ang songs na kakantahin niya para matapos ang concert? mostly 20 or 19 songs, so kung naka 9 songs na si Gary, pwede siguro half-refund, pero lugi sila diyan kasi babayaran nila yong venue at production crew at set. Tapos ma-refund lang.

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    3. kasalanan ba ng bumili? haha

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    4. Ganun naman ang negosyo, may lugi. E hindi sila naka deliver, malugi sila o masira reputation nila

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    5. It's part of the business risk of putting up a concert.

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    6. 11:10 Maybe they should find a cheaper venue, but at least mabalik or commit to a re-do ng concert gaya kay Regine dati or half refund. Di kasi lahat ay makaka intindi at kaya na palagpasin na lang masayang ang pera nila. Pero kung san naputol, yun na lang ang gagawin ni GV, parang continuation na lang

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  6. Daming eklavu eh til now wala naman accountability sila at promoter kung ano ang ineexpect ng day 1 attendees

    Gagaling

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  7. Dapat kasi inaddress kagad kasi syempre andami din nagbayad ng mahal na tickets. Either refund or tulad nung ginawa ni Regine parang nag part 2 ng concert kasi namaos sya dun sa una.

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    1. Tama. Tapos biglang pa victim si ate girl.

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    2. Gusto ni K maawa ang mga tao sa dad niya para makalimutan na lang yung refund. The way she says it pa, if you want a refund that’s understandable, pero anlakas naman mang guilt trip after.

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  8. Remember the EHeads con when ely had to be rushed to the hospital after the first set? Tapos concert nun pero walang nag request ng refund.

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    1. Goes to the conclusion how demanding people nowadays. Dati may understanding pa ngayon kunting kilos may masasabi.

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    2. Karapatan ng customer to ask for a refund if it’s clear they didn’t get what they’re promised. Paki nila kung di nagrequest yung mga umattend ng eheads con ng refund. It’s their loss if they didn’t ask for it, but don’t expect everyone to just follow what others do.

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    3. Right naman ng concert-goers to demand a refund kung hindi natapos ang concert. What do you want them to do, accept na lang without getting their money's worth? Hindi naman lahat ng nanood mayaman to let it just pass. Mag isip nga kayo!

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    4. Eheads is different for Gary V. Gary V all along he is not well compared ke ELI kaya iba ang demand ng attendees.

      Basahin nyo kasi yun post ni FP abt this GaryV concert bago kumuda. Oo bumili ako ng 15k ticket ke gary X 5 at umabsent kme, namasahe, natrapik

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    5. 12:19 may pa-all 500 tickets buyers will be placed in GenAd din ba ang Eheads??

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    6. 12:31 very true. napansin ko rin yan.
      12:19 oo nga no, buti pinaalala mo

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    7. Magkaiba kase un, afternoon plang alam na nila na msama pkiramdam ni gary v, eh ung kay ely biglaan un.

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    8. Rushed at hindi naman alam ni Eli aatakihin sya. Etong si Gary 8x suka bago magsimula ang concert so alam nya dehydrated at ok naman hindi ma2loy un concert for him to be better. Tapos di iaaddress maayos un ano gagawin sa day1 goers. Alam naman nila hirap na, BS sa craftmanship. Its all abt the money

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    9. Eheads concert : started on time, completed first act with 15 songs. In the middle na nagkasakit si Ely. Gary V : started more than one hour, sang 8 songs, run through palang alam na nilang hindi kaya magperform. GETS MO NA?

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    10. Ely’s was a medical emergency while Gary V wasnt. They knew well ahead he couldnt do it hes been very sick prior. So its 2 very different scenarios. Also ppl just hoped Ely could just make it cause its life death situation.

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    11. Dear 6 songs lang un ke garyV

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    12. Eheads concert was fine, 15 songs until inatake sa puso si Ely. 15 solid songs yun!

      Heto, umpisa pa lang, everyone knew Gary can't make it. Tapos walang kwenta pa ang exchange offer, like wth?!

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  9. Not demure, not cute, not classy!

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  10. Plesse stop this girl. She's causing the fam more trouble.

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  11. Pa victim naman itech. Mag statement kayo pars ndi bordering on harassment

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  12. Her attitude will not save their fam's rep. Instead she's making it worse

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    1. ‘Were you there’ kung makatanong

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  13. "one of a kind night"? pep talk? leaning on your mom? di yun ang pinunta ng fans. entertainment, yes. naintindihan nila that your dad got sick. pero kayo pa kasi yung medyo mayabang imbes na maging apologetic, mag-refund or mag resked. regine did it. di hamak mas mayaman ka sa kanya, mas senior sa industry pero she was the one who did the right thing, and she did it agad-agad bago pa magalit ang fans.

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  14. Daming pakulo ng Manila Genesis family haha. Gets namin yang approach niyo, yung tipong “kung makakalusot lang naman” peg.
    Tama ba naman mag disclaimer pa ng, kung sino ang gusto ng refund?!? Dapat blanket statement kung talagang bukal sa loob niyo simplehan niyo na lang ng To request for a refund kemerut…

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    1. Gusto charity na lang. Kaya paawa muna bago magrefund. Baka mag backout pa yung iba dahil naawa kay gary v

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  15. I don’t know why Kiana thinks this is a good thing to post. Gathering for sympathy at parang pinamumukha pa sa mga concert goers na hindi lang dapat pera ang iniisip nila. The nerve for her eh hindi naman niya pera ang pinambayad nila sa concert. It’s so out of touch.

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  16. I hope my post will be published, I saw how professional Gary was he pushed through even though he wasn't feeling well. If I was in the concert I will feel so privilege and so special because he prioritized his craft, his purpose before his health. Gary is truly an inspiration.

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    1. If professional talaga sya, he would choose to cancel the show because he knew na hindi nya matatapos and hindi nya mabibigay 100% performance nya.

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    2. There's a difference between professionalism and being greedy while abandoning one's health issues.

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    3. 1:01, ikaw yun. Don’t make the rest feel guilty about asking a refund if the artist wasn’t able to deliver the goods. FYI, hindi ako bumili ng ticket at wala akong balak manuod ng Gary V concert. I just feel bad sa mga ibang tao na nagbayad.

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    4. 1:01 kunwari nasa resto ka, Mas ok ba yung half portion ng food kesa cancel yung order kung nagbayad ka in full?

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  17. Para namang bago tong Manila Genesis sa pag-handle ng crisis eh antagal na nila sa industry. It just doesn’t look good on them kasi parang they’re burying the refund issue under the rug, especially when the CEO is Angeli.

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  18. Naghihirap ba pamilya nito????? Parang gipit na gipit haha

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    1. eto din ang tanong ko. bat parang ayaw ibalik ang pera?

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    2. You would think they are doing well with a feeling alta daughter.

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  19. Di naman yun ang binayad at pinunta ng audience. Di naman nila gusto makita si Gary V magluto sa ktichen at mag pep talk lol.

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    1. Hahahahaaaaa eh di nag youtube na lang kami....and not Gary:)

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  20. galing pa yan from a religious family ha? how rude!

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  21. she is a living testament na hindi lahat ng relihiyoso ay mababait

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    1. Do naman tlga. Wala sa religion yan. Madalas, sila pa nga ang ang kulo sa loob

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    2. I agree but this K, always entitled ang dating nito from the start. Mas mabait pa mga pinsan and humble like Ella Pangilinan kesa sakanya. May pa secret wedding pa, when people really do not care naman.. Hindi naman sya A list celebrity… more like a private event and wedding nya , not a secret wedding. Feeling Alta.

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  22. noon pa man, i find this family as very pretentious. masyadong holier than tho. “wag ako”, “where you there?” with a smile emoji which is very passive aggressive. and Gary is really tempting fate ha. the family should just deal with the issue and refund fans, bat b kasi parang ayaw mag refund? di naman sila hikahos.

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    1. Yup.Be very wary kung maboka about God.A relationship with an omnipotent is very sacred,and private.

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  23. Di nakaka-Christian ang ugali haaaaa

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  24. I bought 20 tickets of 15K… And sa true, I hope there’s more… But Gary V performed well… Not his best but well… I will mot demand a refund.. Maybe a free ticket in the next concert???

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    1. Okay. May iba kasing ticket holders na hindi kasing yaman mo po. We bought 3 15k tickets. Expensive pero pinagipunan namin for months just to be able to pay for it. Only to be shortchanged.

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    2. Kaso po yung iba hindi naman kasing yaman nyo na kayang hayaan na lng. Ang iba po ay pinag ipunan nila. Galing pa sa abroad ang iba. Hindi lang ticket ang ginastos kundi pauwi din galing ibang bansa. Kami 4 kami sa lower box. Mas mura pero naghhope kami na sana my refund or sana mareschedule kasi pinag ipunan namin yun. Pinag ipunan. Hindi yun sobra sobrang pera lang. Pinag ipunan namin yun. Pinaghirapan namin yun.

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    3. So nung sumablay si Gary V nung lumabas na siya sa stage at mapaupo...performed well na sa iyo yun?! So ganoon lang pala ang halaga ng P15k sayo?

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    4. 1:39 AM - Darling, lying is bad kahit naka Anonymous ka. Dagdagan mo pa ng gaslighting. Nakakadami ka na.

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    5. 1:39 grabe nman ang pagfakery mo gurl. Maniniwala pa ako kung hindi mo sinabi na Gary performed well kasi sila na mismo ang nagsabi na hndi na siya well from the very start. 😬🥴

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    6. 1:39 Ako isang ticket lang sa general admission. And I want a refund. Happy? Wala yan sa mahal o dami. The thing is did you get your money's worth? Halimbawa bumili Ka ng cheeseburger. Cheese lang walang burger patty, happy? Bumili Ka ng sapatos, sintas lang wala un sapatos mismo, happy na sa pep talk ni daddy? Total bs they rather have their dignity and respect respect destroyed than issuing a refund

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  25. holier than thou family, the most professional thing to do is refund. cut your losses. it is part of the business is doing concerts.

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  26. Pahiya si Kiana sabi niya were you there?, tapos sinagot siya ng Yes! hahaha. Refund niyo na kasi. Wag ibahin ang usapan

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    1. Nalaman pa tuloy natin na na boo sya at wlang nag introduce sa kanya haha

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    2. Hahah tapos hingin daw refund wag sa kanya sa genesis daw hahaha as if magkaiba un

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  27. B.S. People pay a lot of money for those tickets! It is pretty clear that they are entitled to a refund!

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  28. Kasi may sakit na nga ung tao, pinag peperform pa

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    1. Tapos ngayon utang na loob ng concertgoers na nagperform siya

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  29. So dapat pala magpasalamat pa ang mga audience that they saw Gary V at his most vulnerable state and didn’t get the 100% of what they paid for. Daming kadramahan, refund

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  30. Bat ganyan…Ang yabang ng dating at sagot.

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    1. Yan din pansin ko, mayabang ang dating

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    2. Korek, nang gaslight pa siya.

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    3. ganon talaga siguro. para maintindihan din ng mga mayabang humingi ng refund.

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  31. Eh family rin naman nila may ari ng Genesis Manila na yan. Name pa lang diba, naka-bible na.
    Hindi nakaka-Christian ang peg ni Kiana Valenciano.
    Refund niyo na.

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  32. So rude and crass talaga ng iba.

    Caveat emptor, it is. If you are a Gary V fan, alam n'yo na even then that he has struggled with something. What happened that day was unexpected. He knew that many expended time, resources and effort to see him and he can't disappoint them. So he with all the energy he could muster, he tried to perform. It was a case of "the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak". The man isn't so young and energetic anymore. Kayo din naman. Dapat more understanding kayo.

    Mga ambots.

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    1. Asus! If you were Gary V and you know you are not feeling well, you should have cancelled it hindi yung dadaanin monsa drama ang mga tao.

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    2. Were you there too? Did u pay 15k?

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    3. True. But if the service or the performance was not fully given then dapat may refund. His team should just refund coz hindi naman fully naibigay yung service or performance. Business din yan. Oo merong mga health considerations but mga international artists via ticketmaster refunds talaga kahit halfway naka perform na. Take for example Lady Gaga ning umulan sa show nya sa Philadephia, she refunded. Britney Spears hurt her leg sa Planet Hollywood in the middle of the show and cant finish. Refunded din via ticketmaster. Ganun lang ka simple yun. You ask for the audience money to pay your services (performance), if you cant deliver fully then refund.

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    4. No, we were disappointed coz he didnt know his limit and his team did not handle it very well and until now no resolution! So we’re not crassed we’re left hanging

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    5. 3:31 the professional thing to do was to cancel and resched. The christian thing to do is to refund hard earned money ng mga nanood.

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    6. Understanding naman. Pero kasi afternoon pa lang he is not feeling well na. Sana kinacel na lang since hindi nga sya feeling well. 2 hrs na daw nagsusuka tas pagpepeformin pa nila? Alam nilang hindi maibibigay ang 100% na performance pero tinuloy pa rin para ano? Hnd sila malugi na pwede naman umpisa pa lng sinabi na agad na cancel. Halos 1hr and 30mins kaming nag aantay tas pinakilala yung anak at kumanta na lng dun. Hnd kami nagpunta dun para sa mga kanta ng anak ngang wala nmn nakakaalam ng kanta.. hnd kami ruder pero kung mag sasagot pa kasi si kiana sa kung pano ang gagawin parang ang bastos may pa wag ako wag ako pa syang nalalaman. Hnd ba nababasa ng daddy nya yan.

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    7. Susme sa hirap ng buhay ngayon, @3:31am hindi naman sa walang pake mga fans ni GaryV sa kanya, pero sana intindihin nyo rin na ang pera ngayon napaka hirap na kitain. Hindi dahilan sakit para hindi kayo makapag pa refund, its at just business nothing personal. Kaya wag nayo sila gaslight Kiana ah.

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    8. Then he should not have mounted a concert! Genesis should play fair. If some people felt shortchanged then they should be compensated in sine way or another accordingly!

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    9. Kung nag order ka online o ng pagkain, pwede ba na argument ang understanding kung full payment ka tapos half lang ng order mo dumating?

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    10. So give the audience their refund!

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    11. My golly! Its already common knowledge that Gary has a host of health issues and been through many health crisis as well. Fan will surely understand if the concert is canceled. Or better yet, never planned at all especially if the performer himself cannot guarantee 100% satisfaction.

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    12. the unfortunate stomach virus or whatever that was was spur of the moment. it was not intentional. hindi ganon kadali mounting a concert. it is not something impromptu na hey i want this delivered to my house in an hour. it takes months, even years to plan a concert. and maraming involved diyan - the dancers, yung mga nagse-set-up ng lighting, ng costumes, etc. hindi lang mga performers. so many people behind the stage you don't see. hindi free ang labor nila. kaya you can't compare it to food or any product you order online. na pag hindi kayo satisfied, hey i want a refund. hindi ganon yon. wag mukhang mga pera. caveat emptor nga. kung hindi nyo alam yan, alamin. mga ambots.

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    13. @1:10, what, yung audience pa mukhang pera? Hindi kaya yung producer ng concert? The audience expected a fully performing Gary V to face them, not a low batt one. Di nakakatuwa yung manood ng someone na di mo mawari if bigla na lang mag-collapse sa harap mo. It is not commendable, but totally irresponsible.

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    14. 2:01 - eh anong tawag mo sa ganon? alam mo nang diabetic siya bata pa siya, di ba? when it comes to his health, it is not a guessing game. you went there to see him. if you think you didn't get your money's worth that day, then that is on you. you took that risk, he took the risk - everything is a risk. nothing ventured, nothing gained. win some, lose some. better luck next time. c'est la vie.

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  33. o magpasalamat daw kayo nakita nyo si Gary nang ganun, special night daw yun. luk* luk* ata tong si Kiana

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  34. Aren’t there policies in place?

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  35. lesson learned na lang ito sa mga nanood ng concert. wag na kayo umasa ng refund.

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  36. Its just a simple answer Kiana, yes or no irerefund nyo ba? Early this year ang dami tributes ng industry sa dad mo btw since supposedly last concert na nya that time diba? And yet people still bought tickets and supported your dad. So don't ever question their support and understanding about your dad.

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  37. Takot ba mabawasan ang pera kaya ayaw mag refund? Since 80s pa nagpeperform si Gary for sure naman hindi nyo ikakahirap yan pag nagrefund kayo. And mayaman naman na pamilya nyo even before dahil sa generational wealth.

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  38. Refund nalang. Normally insured naman ang performer/performance for instances like this. Di naman fair sa mga nagbayad ng ticket tapos short changed sila. Mayaman na naman si Gary V. Siguro sa family nila, bale wala ang 15k but for a lot of people mabigat talaga ang amount na ito. Kiana is being super defensive and she’s just trying to convince herself that Manila Genesis is justified in not giving refunds. Saan ang xtianity diyan??

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  39. Wag na kasi mag concert kung hindi na kaya.

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    1. THIS! TANGGAP NAMAN NILA YAN NA DI NA KAYA MAGPERFORM TALAGA NG FULL BLAST KAYA NGA MAY PA-LAST CONCERT NA NUNG KAILAN YUN PALA LAST KUNO LANG! KNOW WHEN TO STOP!

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  40. Ang daming mga comment di naman gusto maging sick, KAYA NGA BAT DI NAGFOCUS TO GET WELL! KNow your limitation, maiintindihan ng attendees lalo pero un gaslighting yun ang hindi Ok! Alam nyo ba habang nagpeperform si Gary sobrang kabado un mga tao kasi alam na hindi ok. He cant stand and move, so anong sense ituloy pa. Mag isip nga kayo

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  41. Iba din sumagot itong si Kiana....feelingkera, entitled $%#&

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  42. Walang nakakuha sa mga anak ni gary V Ng charisma niya. Kiana and Gab, mapagpatol. Gary V seems problematic, natatakpan lang Ng pagiging religious . From being a first time voter during the last presidential elections to this refund issue.
    Tsaka kala ko Yung concert niya last May is his last na, "one last time" nga, tapos humirit Ng "one more time"?

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    1. Nagulat din ako na first time voter siya. Pano ka naman macoconvince iboto si Kiko e siya mismo privileged na walang paki sa lipunan?! Not a dds or bbn supporter pero di ko talaga bet ang mga pangilinan ever since.

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    2. @10:47 Si Paolo na meet ko na, yun ang mukhang mabait at tahimik lang.

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    3. 12:25 parang weird din yon. Haha.

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  43. "If you came to merely be entertained, you'd see it as a failure"

    Uh - duh? concert nga eh. so people came for entertainment! This line just confirms she thinks the entertainment was a failure.

    Though if full refund, maybe on Genesis end edi sana di nalang nag pumilit perform if rrefund din pala nila. Sana nagpahinga nalang si Gary V.

    All I gathered here is Kiana's comments are distasteful and arrogant.

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  44. I understand the sentiments of the audience, however, kung irerefund ang mga pinambayad sa tickets pano naman ung prod budget nila, kasama mga dancers, stage. Meron pa kaya silang pambayad if ever or consider it losses or kalugihan na sya sa prod? Pls no bashing, just share your inputs po. Salamat.

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    1. Agree. But then not all people have the same perspective. Regardless the fact that Gary V still tried his best to somehow perform. It was really unfortunate he was really unwell. Maybe his team just need to come up with something also to appease/ compensate those who paid to watch his concert and felt shortchanged.

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    2. This is why I think they can’t or won’t refund. Bayad na kasi yung venue, prod, etc. and even if mag-cancel sila, meron at malaki ang cancellation fee.

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    3. Or perhaps a percentage of the amount can be refunded or resched.

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    4. Me business insurance yan, like in any legit business, plane crash, plane cancellation, bayad ang airlines, pero consumer nganga

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    5. Usually at dapat may insurance sa ganito. Dami rin nilang sponsors

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    6. So is it fair that it”s at the expense of the audience? The problem was from their end why would audience bear the consequemces, whatever production cost got nothing to do with the audience, wheres ur logic here aka common sense?

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    7. Cough ! cough ! insurance , cough

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    8. Kame po di lang panbayad ng concert ang ginasta din, ticket, pangkain, gas, parking at umabsent pa. Alam ni Gary di nya matatapos un concert sa condition nya that day bat pinilit. At bakit ang audience na walang kaalam-alam ang mag suffer kc ganun ang delivery sa show. Dba total performer sya eh, di nga sya halos makatayo after ng kanta. May swero pa nun lumabas? Sino ang hibang magstart ng concert ng ganyan, he needs to go to the hospital asap.

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    9. you got that right. good thing there is still someone who is levelheaded here. kudos to you.

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    10. Hindi na problema ng audience yun. They were promised a full show when they bought the ticket. Hindi natupad. Refund is the solution

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    11. Mas di hamak na mayaman sina Gary V than those who saved up to watch his concert. Di nilw ikakahirap yan

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    12. Walang insurance ang show kaya pano daw smh crew etc. Tse!

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  45. Sarap makita mga “Christians” magalit at mainis. Hahaha

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    1. Careful mocking Christians, babalik sayo yan.

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  46. Alanganin to comment but I will. IMHO, kng hours before his concert he was really not in good condition, they should've cancelled and refunded OR maybe reschedule na lang pag magaling na magaling na siya. Pero siguro on his part, he made an effort din to continue the show kasi siguro nakita niya ang mga tao who are excited to see him and listen to his music and with nine songs, hindi na kinaya, that is so sad, imagine to push himself para lang maentertain kayo!? Ano ba naman kayong mga tao kayo, nakita niyo na nga na sinugod sa hospital si GV, kng ano2x pa sinasabi nyo, where’s your compassion?! Pinoy talaga oo!

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    1. Kasalanan ba ng nanood un? May team sya yun dapat ang pumigil. Sa palagay mo kame nanood comfortable makita sya magperform na alam mo di nya kaya. Kung pwede sumigaw wag namin magstart ginawa namin. So wag ka magturo dyan, tingnan sa bakuran ni garyV ang problema

      Deserve ng taong nanood ang binayaran nila. Ang compassion should starts with himself and admit he cant do it

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    2. Mapapakain ba ng mga taong gutom yung compassion mo? Real talk lang. 15k is 15k, sa hirap ng buhay ngayon ah, saka please dont ever question the fans compassion, in the first place dba retired na sya? And yet people still bought his concert tickets.

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    3. 1205, may pa IMHO ka pa, pero lumabas din yung gusto mong sabihin sa panenermon mo sa last part ng sentence mo.🙄

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    4. I would agree with you kaso, in the end, concert goers are consumers who needs to have their money's worth. If there was an ounce, or shadow of doubt about his health condition, they shouldn't have pushed through. In fact, pushing himself was unnecessary given that its well-known, he's not exactly healthy. At the end of the day, Gary and his family, will still be holding the bag while the concert goers are P15K poorer.

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    5. If before the concert he made suka several times knowing his diabetes and other pre condition, irresponsible yung tuloy yung concert. People naman will understand eh, kaya lang nag pumilit lacking humility.

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  47. Sa sinehan nga pag nagka glitch yung screen at hindi natapos yung movie everybody gets a refund, yung concert pa kaya na you spend a whole lot of money. You should follow your Christian teaching hindi pa praise the lord kayo pero you can’t even understand the people who were asking for refund because they felt shortchanged I gu- guilt trip nyo pa, why you didn’t postpone it immediately di walang aberya, greediness is a mortal sin.

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  48. Did the concert finish early? If yes, then people should be refunded. If he just performed poorly but completed all songs, then it’s up to them if they will refund.

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    1. Started late AND ended early. Wala pang 1 hour sya nagperform. Kasi hinang hina.

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  49. I will never pay a 15k concert esp if ilang beses ko na cya nakita. I am a Gary V fan, I've watched his show live sa lugar namin, then saw him again years after that. Nakita ko pa cya ng motorcade right in front of me. And if I want to hear him sing again, pwede nmn sa spotify, or sa youtube or whatever medium. I will spend the 15K cguro if di ko pa nakita yung artist but these days, dun na tayo sa mas practical lalo na Christmas season. Andaming gastos - noche buena, gift giving, parties, at may new year pa. Save nyo nlng sana...

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    1. E gusto ng iba magbayad ng 15k ano naman? Yung sa kpop nga sobrang mahal wala namang live singing, pare pareho lang na kanta at di mo maintindihan e dinudumog paulit ulit.

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    2. Kanya-kanya ng priorities and likes. Others can enjoy a show over and over. Nothing wrong with that.

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    3. 1245, ikaw yan. Wag mong pakialaman pano gagastusin ng iba ang pera nila. Hindi yan ang problema sa nangyari on day 1 of Gary V’s concert.

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  50. Ang gaspang ng ugali Kiana Vee! Bakit maganda ka ba????

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    1. Oo maganda naman siya. At hindi kagaspangan ng ugali yan. She was just responding appropriately.

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    2. nakita mo ba ang gaspang ng mga ugali ng mga nanghihingi ng refund? she has to speak their language para magkaintindihan

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    3. Kadiri reasoning mo

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    4. Ahy naku Kiana, gargle ka muna ng holy water. Kakaloka ang pag uugali mo dzai!!!

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    5. 2:29 in a customer service industry, u cant response to fire with fire dahil lalo lang mag eescalate ang issue and galit ng customer sayo. Theres always a way to get back to rude customer without destroying your and comapny's name. She need to be one level higher than them. Kiana is one of the Manila Genesis' rep sa ayaw man nya or sa gusto dahil their family own it. Kaya she still need to act properly lalo n loud and proud Christian sila.

      PS. Customer service rep here.

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    6. Based dun sa convo, di naman magaspang yung nanghihingi ng refund. Yun Kiana talaga yung magaspang/ maldita

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  51. Kapag ho ba yung sinakyan niyo na jeep huminto halfway ng byahe, pwede pa rin kayo singilin dun sa portion na binyahe na kahit hindi kayo naihatid ni manong sa destinasyon niyo na nakalagay sa karatula sa jeep?

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  52. Ito serious question- yung mga nandito ba na nagko-comment and attacking the family ay mga nakabili ng ticket at hindi na-refund? O gusto niyo lang talagang mang-bash ng mga celebrity?

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  53. I'm not Gary V or the management but kung kaya i resched and i honor yung pumunta sa first date ng concert or i refund basta ma appease yung fans, I would. Kesyo may lugi or what. Kesa masira pangalan ko or pangalan ng management. It takes years and in this case decades to build your name up tas masisira lang dahil sa gantong incident.

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  54. If they intend to have another concert in the future people might not support it anymore because of this incident. Not acknowledging the sentiments of those concert goers who paid too much just to see and listen to him. Unlike yung kay Regine V. Alam niyang those who paid deserves her best performance. Sana acknowledge ng genesis management instead of ignoring everything. Maraming nadala and mukhang hindi na mauulit.

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  55. Kiana, help your parents decide wisely.

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  56. Susme pinakanta na naman pala itong anak na ito. Wala naman maintindihan pag siya kumakanta. I remember nakipag duet siya sa Dad niya dito sa Carson CA last June and nasayang ang kanta. Sana Maulit Muli ung kanta kaya excited sana mga tao but then
    Isinali siya kaya ayun sira ang kanta.

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  57. In all, depende pa rin yan sa T&C upon purchase ng tickets. If nakasaad na no refund for uncontrollable circumstances, wala pa ring hold yung mga purchasers. And it's up to the management if they will still offer something. Better to read the T&Cs

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