So what I gathered from the Mrs statement, the nerve of us masa to ask for refund and criticize them dahil pasko naman, and we should be more understanding daw because he was sick. Puking with IV fluid yet pinilit na mag perform so ilang libong tao inabala where they can just simply cancel, intact pa sana paghanga ng tao sa kanya and if we are a real fan daw we should be more understanding. You did not deliver, therefore we are entitled for refund. Kung alam naming may sakit sya , sana hindi na lang kami tumuloy and used that money to another activity because we are looking for full entertainment, pure energy. Mga out of touch kayo, tagal nyo na sa entertainment industry.
She only answered those who have favorable words for her husband. And took the opportunity to hoodwink everyone again. You should have cancelled. She could have addressed it right away instead of the drama. People who felt shortchanged went to see a concert and not interested in Gary’s Ted Talk version when he thought it was adequate enough for the situation at hand.
Gtabe naman kayo, be thankful na hindi yun nangyari s pamilya nyo or sainyo,Mr. Gary V has been very professional and passionate in his kob, bumigay lang tlga katawan nya, kung kayo naman ang asawa at manager aantayin nyo muna maging stable cya before any thing else, people here are so cruel, ang pperfect nyo noh..
Well i believe mag refund dapat. Yes ot was something that couldnt be controlled. But guys alam naman ni Gary he cannot give his all sa dami niya ng sakit. Pinipilit pa rin
10:43 i think ang inalmahan ng mga tao ay yung first offer nila. People were fine and understanding in the beginning until they announced the remedy: first day concertgoers can watch on the 2nd day. BUT only at Gen Ad and ONLY the first 500 and ONLY if u still have the actual ticket. O diba. Dito nainis ang mga tao.
10:43, 12:29 if the artist is not feeling well HOURS before the concert, they should have called it off. And if they are a good management team, dapat may plan B na especially with his age and health condition. Di kailangan ng life and death situation, kailangan lang ng common sense and promt response.
Yung mga sinasabi na “heartless” or “health mas mahalaga”, naisip ba yan ng pamilya at Manila Genesis when they decided to proceed with the show? Sino ang nag compromise ng health?
Hindi nag iisip ang Genesis. Kung may repeat na lang sana for the dec 20 ticket holders , kahit na ba mag abono sila, lalo siyang mamahalin ng mga tao. Sa next concert niya , mas madami pa manonood. Wala pa kayong issue. Win win situation dapat ang isipin ng management niya.
Walang may gusto sa nangyari. Both sides are valid. Unfair sa concertgoers that they were shortchanged, pero hindi rin naman ginusto yun ni Gary. Angeli is a wife first before anything else. Syempre nakatutok muna siya sa condition ni Gary bago ang business matters. They are already set talk about the refund next week, so sana it solves the situation. Just be kind and considerate to both sides. Bashing won’t do anything.
If nakatutok at pinariotize talaga nila yung health ni Gary V. Dapat hindi na tinuloy yung concert sa simula pa lang. Imagine he was vomiting tapos nag swero pa. Haller alam naman nilang me mga dances and all. Yun ngang common office worker pag ganyan hindi mo pagtatrabahuhin yan pang need ng maraming extensive movements for how many hours. Gosh!
I'm also a wife with a hubby that has multiple health issues and survivor of near deaths. Unahan, na siyempre di siya celebrity or near anywhere what Gary V does. Pero ano mang activities niya, work or play antabay lagi ako. Paalala ko rin, is it worth it or not esp pag may risk na masyado mapagod or makasama lalo sa kanya yung gagawin niya. Di ko na iniisip yung kikitain or yung mawawalang pera.
Hello GINUSTO NILA, paglabas ni gary naka swero pa, 8x sumaka prior concert, tapos sasabihin theyre shocked. Hindi kme pinanganak kahapon, Sumuka ka nga lang 2beses malata ka na eh yan pa tapos magpeperform ng ilang oras. Kaya Tigilan un HINDI GINUSTO, they know what will happen!
A simple statement that they will be announcing soon when Gary V is out of the hospital and sincerely apologised, would’ve been better. They have a company, don’t they have a social media manager? PR manager?
Si Angeli talaga, it’s all about her feelings. Kung kelan patapos ang career ni Gary V, ganito pa ang tatatak sa isipan ng madla. Magkano lang naman ang partial refund compared sa decades ng kinita nila?
Nakita niyo naman may sakit na ang non stop pa susuka on teh day before the concert start sana dun pa lang nag cancel na sila. Mas maiintindihan yun ng mga audience If Not re schedule . Wala sila PLAN B! Tska pwede naman dun siya MAB re sched For next year i think wala naman yun problema. No need long explanation.
Walang accountability ang pamilang ‘to. You didn’t deliver as expected for what they paid for. The circumstances might be unfortunate, but as consumers/costumers they are entitled for a refund. In business and in life, you win some, you lose some. They are entitled for a refund… hindi naman sila nagbayad for partial concert. They paid full so Dapat lang full refund pa nga.
Kakaiba. They should learn a lesson or two from Regine Velasquez on how to PROPERLY and COMPASSIONATELY deal with what happened. I mean, how could they think na may other option than a full refund?!?!
Hello hindi tlga macompare kc matino si Regine hindi greedy. Regardless, ang point is si Regine gave back what people paid for. Walang paawa,alam nya anong pagkukulang nya and she delivered. Hindi gumamit ng guilt tripping at bible verses.
Yup, Regine and her team dealt with the issue head on without hesitation regardless of gain or loss. Kudos to Regine and her team as to Gary and his, I’m afraid this might be the slow decline of Gary’s credibility. Sayang yung 40 years dahil sa dahilan na unclear.
Wag na kasing kaung maingay sa socmed, tone deaf kc kau. Yung mundo, art, lifestyke at ekknomiya nio lng ang alam nio. In other words, mejo elitist arrogant and dating nio.
Ulitin nalang kasi tulad nung ginawa ni Regine. Hindi nila ikahihirap yun! Also, ang mali ng genesis, hindi nila inaddress kagad yung issue. Dapat may pa statement na nagsasabing they're weighing options hindi yung ilang days wala silang pa-assurance sa concert goers.
Hindi nga kasi talaga nila ineexpect na magkakaron ng Refund reaction akala nila kahit di matapos ang concert ok na yun kaya pinilit nilang ituloy kahit kita nilang hirap na hirap na talaga si Gary V.
Gawin na lang natin model si Regine nung nawalan siya ng boses. Merong siyang ino offer sa audience ng hindi niya natapos ang concert. Wala namang violent reaction dun
Ganito lang yan. Try nila kumain sa restaurant. Then bill them twice and include items na hindi naman na iserve sa kanila. Kapag umangal sila, tell them how hurtful it is when the cooks and the servers are doing the best they can. Let’s see how they would react.
No brainer. Prayers and all for Gary V’s health BUT WHY SHOULD PAYING PEOPLE BEAR THE LOSSES. Dapat sila ang mag absorb ng losses. Refund the tickets. Buti nga sila may sponsors to lessen the blow. But those who paid good money - walang kalaban-laban.
Huh? Kun may nagpopost man dito ng bible verse eh baka para ipamuka k angeli na hindi gawain ng totoong Kristyano ang ginagawa nila. Yun nga si Angeli et al eh, Lord God Lord God every breath pero hindi isinasabuhay ang salita ng Diyos. Pumipili lang ng verses where convenient.
Yes, her immediate priority is family and GV’s health. But her company is not pipichugin. Hindi naman sya Ang manhandle personally ng refunds ah. May staff naman sya for sure to handle the business while she focuses on personal stuff. Your PR could’ve released a statement to give the family the time to focus on GV first while resolution for day 1 is being sorted out. But anyway, nag Day 2 pa diba? So Hindi ka rin nag focus sa health Nya agad.
They could have posted a message like - wait for further announcement - instead of keeping everyone hanging. It will take just 1 minute to post.Pero hindi eh. Ilang araw pinaghintay. Pagdududahan mo tuloy na baka makalusot. They are blaming people for not being compassionate. But they do not see their own shortcomings.
Ayaw kasi talaga magrefund. They were hoping maaawa ang mga tao. Maaawa sa millionaires ang mga iba na nag-ipon pa para makanood. Then nun palakas ng palakas ang reklamo ayan na si kianagirl feeling kaya nya iappease ang mga tao at hindi na hihingi ng refund. Lalo lang nagwala ang mga tao. Tama ka if at the onset remorseful sila, kahit tutok k gary, may statement agad na wait for further announcement. Probably kaya nga tinuloy ang concert kahit hindi na kaya is because they wanted to avoid losses. Akala nila basta makaperform ang front act at si gv ilang songs ok na mga tao. As if may manonood ng concert dahil k kiana lol.
Complete agree. It was a business decision to push through the concert even with just a few songs and hope they can evade any financial losses since they are obligated to pay the suppliers (sound system, stage, etc). But as paying consumer, even if you are an avid fan, you expect nothing less than a full delivery of the concert. paying fans would have been forgiving if genesis just cancel the show, and bear the financial losses.
ewww this family. selected lang ang pinost. gusto sila lagi intindihin against the thousands who alloted time, money and effort for the concert. Requesting a refund does not mean they don't care for Gary. jina justify pa ang d pag post agad eh si kiana nga nakakuda pa. ano ba naman yung kahit one liner eh mag release kayo ng statement, does not need to be that long. As short as we apologize for the cutting the concert short due to Gary's condition. Please wait for further announcement. nag post na naman ng bible verse, tamaan naman sana kayo. hindi kayo nakapagdeliver yet gusto ninyo, 100% ang bayad? ano to, charity kay gary? kayo nga mayaman, hindi makapaglabas ng pera for refund, paano pa yung mga nagpakahirap sa pagbabayad ng concert tapos kesyo nasaktan pa sa sinabi na sana pinambili na lang ng sapatos. so selfish, gusto feelings lang nila intindihin.
Funny nga yun affected sa shoes. Eh totoo naman. Mabuti pa nga binili ng shoes kesa binalewala nila yun pnaghirapan ng mga tao, may napala pa sana sila.
100% correct, 2:07. gusto pa yata i praise si gary at nagperform kahit hindi ok ang pakiramdam. ayaw lang yata mag refund kaya pinilit pa si gary ituloy yung event. kayong pamilya niya ang dapat maging unang concern sa kanya, na sana ni resched ninyo na agad yung concert hindi yung pinaabot pa sa puntong ganyan. haist...
Agree. I feel so shortchanged if hindi 100% ang refund. Ilan lang ang numbers na okay. Yung iba nakaupo na lang kasi nahihirapan na nga. I did not pay for 4 tickets for this kind of show. Actually di naman ako umasa na sa refund pero I feel it’s unfair that the Dec 22 goers got to enjoy the show as it is supposed to be seen. Sobrang sama ng loob ko. And with the guilt-tripping ng family, “true” fans, mas nakakainis!
Kahit na shorten lang ng 1 minute pwede na marefund. Pandaraya yun. Nagpay ka expected mo full show tapos hindi nabigay. Parang sa govt contracts may bond ang lahat ng contractor. Pag nalate or hindi ok gawa o deliver confiscated ang bond. Ang nakakainis gaslight kayo na ngayon lang naman. Bat si regine hindi na kailangan icall out nagkusa syang magrefund. Sa inyo kumukuha pa kyo ng supporta para ijustify na ok lang na hindi magrefund. Halatang napipilitan lang kayo. Kung ok lang walang na marami salita at drama, Refund agad. Kumanta lang sya sa online paying show ok na sa mga fans. No need naman magsasayaw. Alam naman ng mga trur fans na may iniinda syang sickness. Kahit nakaupo pa sya whole time. No need na maraming prep yan. Wala rin kayo aarkilahin na venue and props.
I read that thread where Kiana was replying to comments. My take - sana, she handled it with more tact and respect. Or better yet, she kept quiet na lang. Medyo nabastusan din ako sa way & tone sa mga replies nya.
Admit your mistake na pinilit niyong ituloy kahit alam niyong hindi 100% si GV. Nagserve kayo ng hilaw as usual hindi masaya ang kumain. Puro kayo bible verses pero simpleng humility wala kayo.
I'm not a fan or bought a ticket pero siguro a partial refund is enough kung yan ang decision dahil nakakanta naman si Gary at hindi naman sya nag walk out for any reason but his health. Gumastos din po ang production kaya wag namang selfish yung iba dyan ipagdasal na lang natin na Gary will be healthy para sa mga susunod nyang concert di na mangyari ulit ang ganito.
Mukhang si Paolo lang ang matino sa pamilyang to. He’s the only one who sympathizes and recognizes why people were asking for a refund at hindi dinadaan sa emotional ek ek ang reply unlike Kiana and Angeli.
Susko eto namang si Angeli akala mo first timer sa pag-handle ng mga ganito eh ang tagal na ng Manila Genesis at madami din silang artists under them. They are not an amateur company. That’s why people are getting upset coz it’s really starting to look like they don’t want to refund people. Kung si Regine nga walang habas na nagrefund sa mga tao, sila pa kaya? Ayaw nila malugi at the expense of the fans, yun lang yun.
Why is it so difficult to refund full amount? Eh ang dami dami naman nilang pera, eto ba ang iiwanang legacy ni Gary V? All on a bad note after many decades na hinangaan sya?
Obviously yung mga nag cocomment na hindi dapat mag ask for refund are those who didn't buy tickets. At ang comprehension nakakakaloka. Hindi gusto ng audience na tinapos ang concert at lumala sakit ni gary. Ang sinasabi nag reschedule na lang sana para naman yung pinag hirapan na pambili ng ticket ay sulit naman hindi yung nag perform nga pero hindi pang concert ang performance. The issue is not about lrngth if the concert ok.
More than being tone deaf and being out of touch, the bottom line is — it’s all about the money for Manila Genesis. People can see through them, hence the violent reaction. Angeli, you are not thinking of the long game. Your decision to give a “token solution” will impact on Gary’s legacy. Manager ka more than a wife. Be smart. Bite the bullet:issue a full refund. As Jesse in Breaking Bad said, when they lost some money, “ it’s the cost of doing business.”
Alam mo Angeli, less talk less mistake. Just tell the people how to refund, no ifs no buts. Wag ng kung hindi completely satisfied achuchuchu. Hope Gary still stays relevant after this and not get cancelled at all.
The December 20 concert goers were okay until they posted then immediately unposted the message that there will be 500 tickets (whether platinum or gen ad) that can be accommodated in the Dec 22 concert. Don nagalit yong mga tao, walang matinong reply from Manila Genesis kase hindi na nagreply. Guilt-trip din masyado. Gising si Gary V during the 2nd day concert, why not discuss immediately what must be done for Dec 20 ticketgoers, either repeat concert, partial refund or whatever.
Exactly! Dapat as professionals, pinag isipan muna nila ng husto ang mga actions nila. Puwedeng sabihin muna nila: dec 20 audience, pls keep your tix as we have something for you. Ayusin lang namin muna.
Umaasa talaga ang pamilyang ito na i-donate na lng yung ticket sales kay Gary. Di din kinonsider yung mga bumili ng tickets na nagpagod and gumastos. Very unchristian naman pagging gaslighter netong mga to. Last nyo na yan jusko.
I understand the hurt. Very harsh naman din talaga yung iba. I’m a December 20 ticket holder too. I got disappointed but yes, health comes first. But do I want a partial refund? Yes of course. Karapatan din namin yun. Pero sana people can be kinder.
I think naging harsh lang ang tao nung nagsalita na si Kiana. Sana nagupdate na lang siya sa lagay ng tao then hinayaan ung organizer or socmed manager to handle the refund issue.
Magrrefund nga daw. Hindi lang makahintay yung mga tao. Uunahin pa ba kayo nyan kesa sa buhay? Syrmpre sa onset magalit na buong mundo masigurado lang nila muna yung kalagayan nung tao.
Ha e bat naka-release sila ng unang offer na yung nasa first day concert pwede magpunta sa 2nd day concert, pero General Ad at first 500 only. And I think dito umalma ang mga tao. And kung health talaga why nagpush pa sila ng 2nd day? Even Gary said he was not sure he can do it.
A little understanding sa both sides sana. Pero yung gigil sa refund nila. I’m pretty sure yung money na marerefund niyo hindi intended as emergency money. Kasi kung tutuusin, naubos niyo na yun. Bonus na lang yung eventually ibabalik yun sa inyo. So, ano ba naman yung maging patient ng kaunti? Kung namatay during half ng show si Gary. Ganyan din ba kayo kagigil makuha refund? Siguro pa post post pa kayo ng prayers eme. Ito namang kay Ms Angeli, don’t say na wala sa isip mo at agaw buhay si Gary. Dapat may nag asikaso pa din. Don’t expect people na empathetic and understanding sa lahat ng oras. Pag pera pinag uusapan, nagpapatayan ang mga tao. Tama ang fans, pero masama lang talaga ugali nila. Lol
Parehas lang na pera ang reason bakit may issue. Yung fans/customers gusto ng refund dahil hindi nila nakuha gusto nila ng buo. Yung company napilitan magrefund kasi nasisira na image ni Gary V.
Gipit na gipit tuloy ang dating sa tagal ba naman ni Gary na singer nasira dahil ayaw magrefund and why can't they do a full refund? Shortchanged ang audience
naalala ko si julie anne san jose, guest sana siya sa concert ni regine noon, nag rehearse na siya, pero on the ff day, nag migraine siya, sabi niya kaya pa daw niya, kaso nagsuka siya so pina check up sa hospital at eventually di na siya tumuloy, ipinalit si darren, pero katakot takot na bashing ang inabot ni julie dahil nag inarte daw, etc. (kahit binalita na sa 24 oras na hospital) Mga tao talaga, di mo alam kung saan ka lulugar
Yung mga nag iinsist ng kindness and understanding dyan, pwede ba - contract ang ticket. Angeli's party did not fulfill the contract as stated in its original terms, and therefore as stated in the terms the ticket holders are entitled to a full refund. No drama required. No conditions.
Obviously Gary's health was not a secret pero they should have known whether he was fit or not. At the first sign na mukhang hindi, they should have cancelled or rescheduled. Hindi eh, the intent to shortchange the audience was there. They intentionally did not cancel or reschedule even if they had the knowledge that they should. So asan ang kindness and understanding ni Angeli and Genesis here??? Bakit ung ticketholders lang ang dapat maging kind and understanding? When their anger is justified because Angeli and Genesis were acting in bad faith all the while. So bakit asan ang kindness and understanding Angeli and Genesis should have exercised because if they did, hindi hahantong dito.
Ganun lang talaga when you're driven by GREED and PRIDE. Simple. Period.
bakit nga itinuloy itong concert kung masama na ang pakiramdam ni Gary V? I don't understand, I mean wife niya ang manager, she could have stopped the show, Anu yun hindi siya concerned sa kung ano mangyari sa mister niya? paki explain.
Ang sama ng management and PR team nila. 1. Yung 500 Gen ad ticket for Dec 20 goers. Dapat may explanation why ito lang mabibigay at that time and bakit announced 1 HOUR before the Dec 22 show. I could have gone (Dec 20 buyer ako) pero ang insensitive!
2. Ang tagal bago magpost ng anything. They could have managed the irate concert goers by saying they will announce something soon. Si Angeli lang ba ang nagdedesisyon?
3. They had a successful Dec 22 show. While they kept posting regarding the show, it was like adding salt to the wound for the Dec 20 buyers kasi wala man lang balita about a repeat or refund for them. Di ko naramdaman yung empathy.
4. Yung post about the refund meron pang pa guilt trip. “If you FEEL you didnt get the concert value you paid for…..” REFUND based on feelings. Ang sama!! Lalo tuloy ako naiinis and want 100% of my money!! I bought 4 for my relatives and super dismaya Sa pang giguilt tripping nila
As much as I love seeing Gary V perform, I will never watch his concert again. Nor support any Manila Genesis show again.
The gaslighting 😂😂😂 I cannot 🤣🤣🤣
ReplyDeleteTotoo! Sabi nga ni Pareng Elvis:
Delete%a little less conversation, a little more action please
all this aggravation ain't satisfactioning me%
IKR! Ang tindi rin.
DeleteSo what I gathered from the Mrs statement, the nerve of us masa to ask for refund and criticize them dahil pasko naman, and we should be more understanding daw because he was sick. Puking with IV fluid yet pinilit na mag perform so ilang libong tao inabala where they can just simply cancel, intact pa sana paghanga ng tao sa kanya and if we are a real fan daw we should be more understanding. You did not deliver, therefore we are entitled for refund. Kung alam naming may sakit sya , sana hindi na lang kami tumuloy and used that money to another activity because we are looking for full entertainment, pure energy. Mga out of touch kayo, tagal nyo na sa entertainment industry.
DeleteThis issue has tainted Gary V's reputation forever. Hope his charisma can save him. Bec the wife and kids esp the daughter rub people the wrong way
DeleteShe only answered those who have favorable words for her husband. And took the opportunity to hoodwink everyone again. You should have cancelled. She could have addressed it right away instead of the drama. People who felt shortchanged went to see a concert and not interested in Gary’s Ted Talk version when he thought it was adequate enough for the situation at hand.
DeleteMore than one week sila nag isip tapos partial refund pa. Unlike kay Regine, inulit ang concert! Agad agad inannounce. Yun ang Tama!
DeleteGtabe naman kayo, be thankful na hindi yun nangyari s pamilya nyo or sainyo,Mr. Gary V has been very professional and passionate in his kob, bumigay lang tlga katawan nya, kung kayo naman ang asawa at manager aantayin nyo muna maging stable cya before any thing else, people here are so cruel, ang pperfect nyo noh..
Deletegrabe ang heartless nyo naman. if life & death situation, uunahin mo paba yung ibang taong ang problema lang ay refund?
DeleteWell i believe mag refund dapat. Yes ot was something that couldnt be controlled. But guys alam naman ni Gary he cannot give his all sa dami niya ng sakit. Pinipilit pa rin
Delete10:43 i think ang inalmahan ng mga tao ay yung first offer nila. People were fine and understanding in the beginning until they announced the remedy: first day concertgoers can watch on the 2nd day. BUT only at Gen Ad and ONLY the first 500 and ONLY if u still have the actual ticket. O diba. Dito nainis ang mga tao.
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Delete10:43, 12:29 if the artist is not feeling well HOURS before the concert, they should have called it off. And if they are a good management team, dapat may plan B na especially with his age and health condition. Di kailangan ng life and death situation, kailangan lang ng common sense and promt response.
DeleteYung mga sinasabi na “heartless” or “health mas mahalaga”, naisip ba yan ng pamilya at Manila Genesis when they decided to proceed with the show? Sino ang nag compromise ng health?
DeleteThis is the automated reply I got when I sent an email regarding their Refund.
DeleteHi,
Pls do not reply to this system generated email.
For inquiries and clarifications regarding ticket reservations, please contact us via email at tickets@garyv.com.
Best regards,
Manila Genesis Team
Wait, what??? "He will retire when he is ready" ba 'ka 'mo??? Akala ko ba LAST na concert na???
ReplyDeleteHindi nag iisip ang Genesis. Kung may repeat na lang sana for the dec 20 ticket holders , kahit na ba mag abono sila, lalo siyang mamahalin ng mga tao. Sa next concert niya , mas madami pa manonood. Wala pa kayong issue. Win win situation dapat ang isipin ng management niya.
DeleteOo nga sinasabi yan pero di naman. Di matanggap matanda na siya
DeleteVictim pa sila, unreal
ReplyDeleteSila pa talaga ang kawawa eh ano?!
DeleteKairita...
Napaka out of touch ng pamilya nato
ReplyDeleteDeserve nyo naman kasi! Paholy kayo.
ReplyDeleteSaka asawa mo si Gary ako nga audience kitang kita ko na di kaya tlga, ikaw hinayaan mo. Hay naku wag kame
Tama din yun people now see your TRUE COLORS, yan ang legacy na naiwan ni Gary V.
Kung naging successful yung show malamang nag world tour pa yan.
ReplyDeleteMayroong World Tour at msyroong concert dito sa Wellington, New Zealand sa March 16.
DeleteSoooo true!
DeleteMay Australian and New Zealand Tour pa next year. Just saying
DeleteWalang may gusto sa nangyari. Both sides are valid. Unfair sa concertgoers that they were shortchanged, pero hindi rin naman ginusto yun ni Gary. Angeli is a wife first before anything else. Syempre nakatutok muna siya sa condition ni Gary bago ang business matters. They are already set talk about the refund next week, so sana it solves the situation. Just be kind and considerate to both sides. Bashing won’t do anything.
ReplyDeleteIf nakatutok at pinariotize talaga nila yung health ni Gary V. Dapat hindi na tinuloy yung concert sa simula pa lang. Imagine he was vomiting tapos nag swero pa. Haller alam naman nilang me mga dances and all. Yun ngang common office worker pag ganyan hindi mo pagtatrabahuhin yan pang need ng maraming extensive movements for how many hours. Gosh!
DeleteI'm also a wife with a hubby that has multiple health issues and survivor of near deaths. Unahan, na siyempre di siya celebrity or near anywhere what Gary V does. Pero ano mang activities niya, work or play antabay lagi ako. Paalala ko rin, is it worth it or not esp pag may risk na masyado mapagod or makasama lalo sa kanya yung gagawin niya. Di ko na iniisip yung kikitain or yung mawawalang pera.
DeleteSA MGA NAGSASABI NA HINDI GINUSTA NA EKLAVU,
DeleteHello GINUSTO NILA, paglabas ni gary naka swero pa, 8x sumaka prior concert, tapos sasabihin theyre shocked. Hindi kme pinanganak kahapon,
Sumuka ka nga lang 2beses malata ka na eh yan pa tapos magpeperform ng ilang oras. Kaya Tigilan un HINDI GINUSTO, they know what will happen!
A simple statement that they will be announcing soon when Gary V is out of the hospital and sincerely apologised, would’ve been better. They have a company, don’t they have a social media manager? PR manager?
DeleteDo the right thing.
ReplyDeleteSi Angeli talaga, it’s all about her feelings. Kung kelan patapos ang career ni Gary V, ganito pa ang tatatak sa isipan ng madla. Magkano lang naman ang partial refund compared sa decades ng kinita nila?
ReplyDeletehindi na nga makapag full refund tapos sila pa victim ganyan pala logic nila
ReplyDeleteDaming drama ni Angeli Pangilinan. Di na lang ibigay ang refund. 🙄
ReplyDeletesa true. di rin naman pinupulot lang ang pera kung saan saan. yung iba katulad namin pinag ipunan at pinaglaanan talaga.
DeleteNakita niyo naman may sakit na ang non stop pa susuka on teh day before the concert start sana dun pa lang nag cancel na sila. Mas maiintindihan yun ng mga audience If Not re schedule . Wala sila PLAN B! Tska pwede naman dun siya MAB re sched For next year i think wala naman yun problema. No need long explanation.
ReplyDeleteWalang accountability ang pamilang ‘to. You didn’t deliver as expected for what they paid for. The circumstances might be unfortunate, but as consumers/costumers they are entitled for a refund. In business and in life, you win some, you lose some. They are entitled for a refund… hindi naman sila nagbayad for partial concert. They paid full so Dapat lang full refund pa nga.
ReplyDeleteTHIS
DeleteMay nakanta naman daw kasi si Gary. 6 songs. Although they say na 8 to 9 songs daw.
DeleteHumility, Angeli. Humility.
ReplyDeleteStop the hypocrisy.
DeleteKakaiba. They should learn a lesson or two from Regine Velasquez on how to PROPERLY and COMPASSIONATELY deal with what happened. I mean, how could they think na may other option than a full refund?!?!
ReplyDeleteHindi naman total performer si regine. Paos lang siya kaya di makasigaw sa concert. Hindi gaya ni gary na may malalang condition.
DeleteHello hindi tlga macompare kc matino si Regine hindi greedy. Regardless, ang point is si Regine gave back what people paid for. Walang paawa,alam nya anong pagkukulang nya and she delivered. Hindi gumamit ng guilt tripping at bible verses.
DeleteYup, Regine and her team dealt with the issue head on without hesitation regardless of gain or loss. Kudos to Regine and her team as to Gary and his, I’m afraid this might be the slow decline of Gary’s credibility. Sayang yung 40 years dahil sa dahilan na unclear.
DeleteWag na kasing kaung maingay sa socmed, tone deaf kc kau. Yung mundo, art, lifestyke at ekknomiya nio lng ang alam nio. In other words, mejo elitist arrogant and dating nio.
ReplyDeletefull refund lang yan un lang ang solution diyan
ReplyDeleteUlitin nalang kasi tulad nung ginawa ni Regine. Hindi nila ikahihirap yun! Also, ang mali ng genesis, hindi nila inaddress kagad yung issue. Dapat may pa statement na nagsasabing they're weighing options hindi yung ilang days wala silang pa-assurance sa concert goers.
ReplyDeleteHindi nga kasi talaga nila ineexpect na magkakaron ng Refund reaction akala nila kahit di matapos ang concert ok na yun kaya pinilit nilang ituloy kahit kita nilang hirap na hirap na talaga si Gary V.
DeleteMeron namang sumagot e. Yung anak. Ang bastos nung anak kaya naging ganyan
DeleteGawin na lang natin model si Regine nung nawalan siya ng boses. Merong siyang ino offer sa audience ng hindi niya natapos ang concert. Wala namang violent reaction dun
ReplyDeleteGanito lang yan. Try nila kumain sa restaurant. Then bill them twice and include items na hindi naman na iserve sa kanila. Kapag umangal sila, tell them how hurtful it is when the cooks and the servers are doing the best they can.
ReplyDeleteLet’s see how they would react.
No brainer. Prayers and all for Gary V’s health BUT WHY SHOULD PAYING PEOPLE BEAR THE LOSSES. Dapat sila ang mag absorb ng losses. Refund the tickets. Buti nga sila may sponsors to lessen the blow. But those who paid good money - walang kalaban-laban.
ReplyDeleteThis!
DeleteGrabe mga tao dito sa comment section. Tapos puro mga bible verse post nian tsk.
ReplyDeleteHuh? Kun may nagpopost man dito ng bible verse eh baka para ipamuka k angeli na hindi gawain ng totoong Kristyano ang ginagawa nila. Yun nga si Angeli et al eh, Lord God Lord God every breath pero hindi isinasabuhay ang salita ng Diyos. Pumipili lang ng verses where convenient.
Delete1:10 huuy! wala sa lugar yang argumento mo...
DeleteYes, her immediate priority is family and GV’s health. But her company is not pipichugin. Hindi naman sya Ang manhandle personally ng refunds ah. May staff naman sya for sure to handle the business while she focuses on personal stuff. Your PR could’ve released a statement to give the family the time to focus on GV first while resolution for day 1 is being sorted out. But anyway, nag Day 2 pa diba? So Hindi ka rin nag focus sa health Nya agad.
ReplyDeleteAlam nyo naman ang tama at dapat gawin. Wag na magmaang-maangan. Tapos ngayon kayo ang inapi dahil nagalit ang mga tao. Bravo!
ReplyDeleteThey could have posted a message like - wait for further announcement - instead of keeping everyone hanging. It will take just 1 minute to post.Pero hindi eh. Ilang araw pinaghintay. Pagdududahan mo tuloy na baka makalusot. They are blaming people for not being compassionate. But they do not see their own shortcomings.
ReplyDeleteAyaw kasi talaga magrefund. They were hoping maaawa ang mga tao. Maaawa sa millionaires ang mga iba na nag-ipon pa para makanood. Then nun palakas ng palakas ang reklamo ayan na si kianagirl feeling kaya nya iappease ang mga tao at hindi na hihingi ng refund. Lalo lang nagwala ang mga tao. Tama ka if at the onset remorseful sila, kahit tutok k gary, may statement agad na wait for further announcement. Probably kaya nga tinuloy ang concert kahit hindi na kaya is because they wanted to avoid losses. Akala nila basta makaperform ang front act at si gv ilang songs ok na mga tao. As if may manonood ng concert dahil k kiana lol.
DeleteAgree
DeleteNot just probably, Gary and team risked his life to recoup the inevitable loss in case they had to refund or reschedule. Grabe din eh no.
DeleteTumpak! Ayaw talaga nilang mag refund yun lang.
DeleteComplete agree. It was a business decision to push through the concert even with just a few songs and hope they can evade any financial losses since they are obligated to pay the suppliers (sound system, stage, etc). But as paying consumer, even if you are an avid fan, you expect nothing less than a full delivery of the concert. paying fans would have been forgiving if genesis just cancel the show, and bear the financial losses.
Deleteewww this family. selected lang ang pinost. gusto sila lagi intindihin against the thousands who alloted time, money and effort for the concert. Requesting a refund does not mean they don't care for Gary. jina justify pa ang d pag post agad eh si kiana nga nakakuda pa. ano ba naman yung kahit one liner eh mag release kayo ng statement, does not need to be that long. As short as we apologize for the cutting the concert short due to Gary's condition. Please wait for further announcement. nag post na naman ng bible verse, tamaan naman sana kayo. hindi kayo nakapagdeliver yet gusto ninyo, 100% ang bayad? ano to, charity kay gary? kayo nga mayaman, hindi makapaglabas ng pera for refund, paano pa yung mga nagpakahirap sa pagbabayad ng concert tapos kesyo nasaktan pa sa sinabi na sana pinambili na lang ng sapatos. so selfish, gusto feelings lang nila intindihin.
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DeleteFunny nga yun affected sa shoes. Eh totoo naman. Mabuti pa nga binili ng shoes kesa binalewala nila yun pnaghirapan ng mga tao, may napala pa sana sila.
100% correct, 2:07. gusto pa yata i praise si gary at nagperform kahit hindi ok ang pakiramdam. ayaw lang yata mag refund kaya pinilit pa si gary ituloy yung event. kayong pamilya niya ang dapat maging unang concern sa kanya, na sana ni resched ninyo na agad yung concert hindi yung pinaabot pa sa puntong ganyan. haist...
DeleteAgree. I feel so shortchanged if hindi
Delete100% ang refund. Ilan lang ang numbers na okay. Yung iba nakaupo na lang kasi nahihirapan na nga. I did not pay for
4 tickets for this kind of show. Actually di naman ako umasa na sa refund pero I feel it’s unfair that the Dec 22 goers got to enjoy the show as it is supposed to be seen. Sobrang sama ng loob ko. And with the guilt-tripping ng family, “true” fans, mas nakakainis!
Kahit na shorten lang ng 1 minute pwede na marefund. Pandaraya yun. Nagpay ka expected mo full show tapos hindi nabigay. Parang sa govt contracts may bond ang lahat ng contractor. Pag nalate or hindi ok gawa o deliver confiscated ang bond. Ang nakakainis gaslight kayo na ngayon lang naman. Bat si regine hindi na kailangan icall out nagkusa syang magrefund. Sa inyo kumukuha pa kyo ng supporta para ijustify na ok lang na hindi magrefund. Halatang napipilitan lang kayo. Kung ok lang walang na marami salita at drama, Refund agad. Kumanta lang sya sa online paying show ok na sa mga fans. No need naman magsasayaw. Alam naman ng mga trur fans na may iniinda syang sickness. Kahit nakaupo pa sya whole time. No need na maraming prep yan. Wala rin kayo aarkilahin na venue and props.
ReplyDeleteI read that thread where Kiana was replying to comments. My take - sana, she handled it with more tact and respect. Or better yet, she kept quiet na lang. Medyo nabastusan din ako sa way & tone sa mga replies nya.
ReplyDeleteEh pano the mom is still defending the daughter'as rudeness. As if it justified her rude conments
DeleteAdmit your mistake na pinilit niyong ituloy kahit alam niyong hindi 100% si GV. Nagserve kayo ng hilaw as usual hindi masaya ang kumain. Puro kayo bible verses pero simpleng humility wala kayo.
ReplyDeleteI'm not a fan or bought a ticket pero siguro a partial refund is enough kung yan ang decision dahil nakakanta naman si Gary at hindi naman sya nag walk out for any reason but his health. Gumastos din po ang production kaya wag namang selfish yung iba dyan ipagdasal na lang natin na Gary will be healthy para sa mga susunod nyang concert di na mangyari ulit ang ganito.
ReplyDeleteKa turn off tong pamilyang ito.
ReplyDeleteMukhang si Paolo lang ang matino sa pamilyang to. He’s the only one who sympathizes and recognizes why people were asking for a refund at hindi dinadaan sa emotional ek ek ang reply unlike Kiana and Angeli.
ReplyDeleteSusko eto namang si Angeli akala mo first timer sa pag-handle ng mga ganito eh ang tagal na ng Manila Genesis at madami din silang artists under them. They are not an amateur company. That’s why people are getting upset coz it’s really starting to look like they don’t want to refund people. Kung si Regine nga walang habas na nagrefund sa mga tao, sila pa kaya? Ayaw nila malugi at the expense of the fans, yun lang yun.
ReplyDeleteThey are willing to give refund to those who ask for a refund. So I don't get why people still hate.
ReplyDeleteWhy is it so difficult to refund full amount? Eh ang dami dami naman nilang pera, eto ba ang iiwanang legacy ni Gary V? All on a bad note after many decades na hinangaan sya?
ReplyDeleteNakaka lungkot na nagka ganitong issue pa si sir gary v baka ito nga maging dahilan na mag retire na sya
ReplyDeleteObviously yung mga nag cocomment na hindi dapat mag ask for refund are those who didn't buy tickets. At ang comprehension nakakakaloka. Hindi gusto ng audience na tinapos ang concert at lumala sakit ni gary. Ang sinasabi nag reschedule na lang sana para naman yung pinag hirapan na pambili ng ticket ay sulit naman hindi yung nag perform nga pero hindi pang concert ang performance. The issue is not about lrngth if the concert ok.
ReplyDeleteAng galing din ng statement para bang walang puso ang mga nag papa refund. Wow. Gaslighting and pavictim.
ReplyDeleteMore than being tone deaf and being out of touch, the bottom line is — it’s all about the money for Manila Genesis. People can see through them, hence the violent reaction. Angeli, you are not thinking of the long game. Your decision to give a “token solution” will impact on Gary’s legacy. Manager ka more than a wife. Be smart. Bite the bullet:issue a full refund. As Jesse in Breaking Bad said, when they lost some money, “ it’s the cost of doing business.”
ReplyDeleteWag mo na kasi pilitin magconcert ang asawa mo kung di naman physically fit
ReplyDeletesorry but that last exchange about Gary retiring when he’s ready sounds so greedy. please do not ever compare him to JMC 🙄
ReplyDeleteThis is already iike the mob storming the castle, yet Angeli and Kiana are in denial.
ReplyDeleteExcuse me how much angbticket?Thank you sa sasagot.And yes Angeli is annoying.
ReplyDeleteNa hahatsing ako sa nose ni Angeline 🤣
DeleteAlam mo Angeli, less talk less mistake. Just tell the people how to refund, no ifs no buts. Wag ng kung hindi completely satisfied achuchuchu. Hope Gary still stays relevant after this and not get cancelled at all.
ReplyDeleteHindi kabawasan sa pagkatao ang pagpapakumbaba.A life’s lesson na hanggang ngayon ay mukhang hindi pa rin natututunan ni Angeli.
ReplyDeleteThe December 20 concert goers were okay until they posted then immediately unposted the message that there will be 500 tickets (whether platinum or gen ad) that can be accommodated in the Dec 22 concert. Don nagalit yong mga tao, walang matinong reply from Manila Genesis kase hindi na nagreply. Guilt-trip din masyado. Gising si Gary V during the 2nd day concert, why not discuss immediately what must be done for Dec 20 ticketgoers, either repeat concert, partial refund or whatever.
ReplyDeleteExactly! Dapat as professionals, pinag isipan muna nila ng husto ang mga actions nila. Puwedeng sabihin muna nila: dec 20 audience, pls keep your tix as we have something for you. Ayusin lang namin muna.
DeleteExcuse na lang and paawa yung statement ni Angeli
DeleteThis.
DeleteUmaasa talaga ang pamilyang ito na i-donate na lng yung ticket sales kay Gary. Di din kinonsider yung mga bumili ng tickets na nagpagod and gumastos. Very unchristian naman pagging gaslighter netong mga to. Last nyo na yan jusko.
ReplyDeleteBkit ko nman ido-donate yung pera k gary ang dami nyang pera
DeleteI understand the hurt. Very harsh naman din talaga yung iba. I’m a December 20 ticket holder too. I got disappointed but yes, health comes first. But do I want a partial refund? Yes of course. Karapatan din namin yun. Pero sana people can be kinder.
ReplyDeleteI think naging harsh lang ang tao nung nagsalita na si Kiana. Sana nagupdate na lang siya sa lagay ng tao then hinayaan ung organizer or socmed manager to handle the refund issue.
DeleteYou deserve a full refund
Delete10:56 Nagperform din naman. I’m fine with partial. Ok na yun.
DeleteMagrrefund nga daw. Hindi lang makahintay yung mga tao. Uunahin pa ba kayo nyan kesa sa buhay? Syrmpre sa onset magalit na buong mundo masigurado lang nila muna yung kalagayan nung tao.
ReplyDeleteHahaha eh magshoshow na nga ng 2nd day may new year show pa. Tigilan company nila un, si regine nga on the spot kaya wag kuda ng kuda
DeleteBuhay at malakas pa c Angeli kaya anytime pwede nga I-release ang pera kung talagang gusto nya ok! Don’t me!
DeleteHa e bat naka-release sila ng unang offer na yung nasa first day concert pwede magpunta sa 2nd day concert, pero General Ad at first 500 only. And I think dito umalma ang mga tao. And kung health talaga why nagpush pa sila ng 2nd day? Even Gary said he was not sure he can do it.
DeleteWag ako!
ReplyDeleteA little understanding sa both sides sana. Pero yung gigil sa refund nila. I’m pretty sure yung money na marerefund niyo hindi intended as emergency money. Kasi kung tutuusin, naubos niyo na yun. Bonus na lang yung eventually ibabalik yun sa inyo. So, ano ba naman yung maging patient ng kaunti? Kung namatay during half ng show si Gary. Ganyan din ba kayo kagigil makuha refund? Siguro pa post post pa kayo ng prayers eme. Ito namang kay Ms Angeli, don’t say na wala sa isip mo at agaw buhay si Gary. Dapat may nag asikaso pa din. Don’t expect people na empathetic and understanding sa lahat ng oras. Pag pera pinag uusapan, nagpapatayan ang mga tao. Tama ang fans, pero masama lang talaga ugali nila. Lol
ReplyDeleteGary Valenciano was not forced to do pep talk and dance a bit...he decided on his own.Not for the fans for shoo
DeleteSino ba ang inuna ang Kita diba un nagconcert, sila ang nagtuloy pwede ba.
DeleteSila ang kukubra ang mga nagbayad ang mamoblema sa refund. Isipin mo nga
Parehas lang na pera ang reason bakit may issue. Yung fans/customers gusto ng refund dahil hindi nila nakuha gusto nila ng buo. Yung company napilitan magrefund kasi nasisira na image ni Gary V.
DeleteYung nag offer kayo ng GA sa mga dec 20 goers is uncalled for
ReplyDeleteGipit na gipit tuloy ang dating sa tagal ba naman ni Gary na singer nasira dahil ayaw magrefund and why can't they do a full refund? Shortchanged ang audience
ReplyDeletenaalala ko si julie anne san jose, guest sana siya sa concert ni regine noon, nag rehearse na siya, pero on the ff day, nag migraine siya, sabi niya kaya pa daw niya, kaso nagsuka siya so pina check up sa hospital at eventually di na siya tumuloy, ipinalit si darren, pero katakot takot na bashing ang inabot ni julie dahil nag inarte daw, etc. (kahit binalita na sa 24 oras na hospital) Mga tao talaga, di mo alam kung saan ka lulugar
ReplyDeleteYung mga nag iinsist ng kindness and understanding dyan, pwede ba - contract ang ticket. Angeli's party did not fulfill the contract as stated in its original terms, and therefore as stated in the terms the ticket holders are entitled to a full refund. No drama required. No conditions.
ReplyDeleteObviously Gary's health was not a secret pero they should have known whether he was fit or not. At the first sign na mukhang hindi, they should have cancelled or rescheduled. Hindi eh, the intent to shortchange the audience was there. They intentionally did not cancel or reschedule even if they had the knowledge that they should. So asan ang kindness and understanding ni Angeli and Genesis here??? Bakit ung ticketholders lang ang dapat maging kind and understanding? When their anger is justified because Angeli and Genesis were acting in bad faith all the while. So bakit asan ang kindness and understanding Angeli and Genesis should have exercised because if they did, hindi hahantong dito.
Ganun lang talaga when you're driven by GREED and PRIDE. Simple. Period.
bakit nga itinuloy itong concert kung masama na ang pakiramdam ni Gary V? I don't understand, I mean wife niya ang manager, she could have stopped the show, Anu yun hindi siya concerned sa kung ano mangyari sa mister niya? paki explain.
ReplyDeleteAng sama ng management and PR team nila.
ReplyDelete1. Yung 500 Gen ad ticket for Dec 20 goers. Dapat may explanation why ito lang mabibigay at that time and bakit announced 1 HOUR before the Dec 22 show. I could have gone (Dec 20 buyer ako) pero ang insensitive!
2. Ang tagal bago magpost ng anything. They could have managed the irate concert goers by saying they will announce something soon. Si Angeli lang ba ang nagdedesisyon?
3. They had a successful Dec 22 show. While they kept posting regarding the show, it was like adding salt to the wound for the Dec 20 buyers kasi wala man lang balita about a repeat or refund for them. Di ko naramdaman yung empathy.
4. Yung post about the refund meron pang pa guilt trip. “If you FEEL you didnt get the concert value you paid for…..”
REFUND based on feelings. Ang sama!! Lalo tuloy ako naiinis and want 100% of my money!! I bought 4 for my relatives and super dismaya
Sa pang giguilt tripping nila
As much as I love seeing Gary V perform, I will never watch his concert again. Nor support any Manila Genesis show again.
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DeleteThem being a very proud Christian people doesnt help with their current situation pa. Hard lesson learned. Never again.