Let me just quote this comment I read from an article in Daily Mail: "People like Bruce Springsteen came to fame much more slowly, although he was still very young, he'd had some years of playing around the small local venues with the band who were or quickly became close friends. They had time to develop some resilience and some understanding that the business was hard and that they wouldn't always do well. The people who immediately gain enormous fame through a manufactured process don't have the same experience and don't have a chance to build that resilience. When the fame fades because it's built on nothing solid, they don't know how to cope. Liam Payne's death is tragic for his son and family who now have to try to go on without him but the business had already moved on."
12:21 We are all different - how we feel about things, how we react to things, how we live our lives, how we survive the challenges in everyday life, how we cope with joy and sadness. Some get addicted to things easily, some resist and some enjoy in a healthy manner. We can't compare and we should not compare. That is unfair.
I have to agree on this one. They were very young at that time and the lads were thrown into a world of fame and money. Then all of a sudden it halted, and the way Liam coped with the downside of fame was his addiction, as he was unable to cope with the loss of tours and large crowds he was accustomed to.
12:52 wala namang masama sa sinabi o nashare. Maaring totoo maaring hindi. It's for awareness as well. Everyone in a public comment section must have an open mind na hindi nila solo dito at mababasa lang ang gusto nilang mabasa. That's unfair.
12.52 the purpose of above post is not to compare, its common sense evey person is different, but thats just an analogy of why most artists who skyrocket to fame really fast cant process once their fame starts to fade and it all makes sense. Its the psychology behind what has happened.
Comparing Bruce S and Liam is quite unfair. During Bruce’s time, the music industry is different in terms of marketing, performance and audience. While sa case ni Liam, technology and social media and the way he was discovered. Galing sila sa contest diba? Magkaibang dynamics. hindi pa siya ganap na artista, may pressure na. Hindi lang niya na address yung mental health issues niya. Wala na din siguro magawa family niya.
Hay naku 12:52, no matter how you put it, we can't help but compare the older generation to the younger generation. They learned life the hard way, while life was served on a silver platter to the young ones. It's okay to compare so we could understand kung bakit napakaraming young artists and celebrities ang namamatay, nalululong sa illegal substances, etc.
11:43 Just so you know, that comment was from Daily Mail article titled "Bruce Springsteen speaks out on the 'enormous pressure' the industry puts on young people in the wake of Liam Payne's tragic death aged 31". PLEASE CHECK AND READ PARA ALAM MO YUNG CONTEXT. Ikaw na din 12:52 para hindi kayo ngumangawa na unfair yang comment na yan. You're welcome! :)
11:43 Teh, Bruce Springsteen made a statement in relation to Liam Payne's death. Feel free to Google it. Magbasa ka din sa ibang entertainment site kasi.
12:52 and 11:43 mga ka-FP may context po kasi itong post ko. I quoted this comment from an article in Daily Mail where Bruce S. speaks out on Liam’s death. Kung palalawakin lang niyo ang utak niyo, this isn’t plainly comparing Bruce and Liam. THIS is the reality of how slow rise to fame and quick rise to fame can do to people. Have you ever wondered why people like Bruce, Paul, and other legends lived long enough despite their massive success? They developed resilience. Look the article up para mabasa mo din yung exact statements ni Bruce. Sorry for not giving you a heads up about where I got this from. - 12:21
The whole truth?? They just keep on saying that he's under the influence. But did they ever state that he was doing drugs and alcohol because of the mental issues he's going through after being robbed of a normal life just so they can make millions for the companies behind them? Yes they also made tons of money, but they were all so young when they were pressured and pushed to perform beyond their limits. They were even locked in their hotel rooms for their "protection", but no one thought of removing any alcoholic drinks. Its how he became addicted to it. They were also forced to adhere to a certain image made for them. Forced to sing a specific genre, act a certain way. And once they're no longer profitable, they were chewed out by those who controlled them like a piece of trash.
1.02 everything you said is, but reality. Theres no perfect or ideal life or an ideal world. Thats how things are and works. Was he forced to do it? Has anyone forced him to audition in x factor? Im not saying he was treated right but they also had privileges not normal people have or experience. There has to be some accountability on his part too. He’s not totally a victim to blame it all on the system. I think its important for every person to have accountablity for what u become and not rely on the system to protect u or expect they would actually genuinely care for you. Well his net worth apparently is $50 million even though hes no longer famous, but even thats not enough for him to see life as worth living. Its fame he lost that he couldnt process.
1:02 Liam wanted the fame and money. His first x-factor audition failed and he came back. If I remember correctly, he was first in the audition line when the next season started. That’s how bad he wanted to make it. Everything you mentioned is part of the music business. No one forced alcohol or drugs on him. He had every choice to walk away and get a normal job like the rest of us.
Sandali lang Cheryl. Im not invalidating your experience while with Liam ha. Pinagka kitaan mo nga siya sa pag pa public ng lahat lahat tapos ngayon kukuda ka. Kamusta naman podcast mo, si Liam pa din topic?
Shutaca ka teh! Pinahiya mo sarili mo sa comment mo. Hahaha Cheryl has been very private about her and Liam's relationship and coparenting. Si Maya Henry ang nagsulat ng book detailing Liam's issues.
Hinde ako super fan ng 1D pero his one of magaganda boses and good looking na din after zayn. ( sa akin lang ito ha) Sayang lang nung nag solo siya hinde siya masydo nag boom unlike sa ibang members eg si harry styles . Sobrang affected ako sa nangyari sa Kanya he was full of life meeting his fans tapos after a few hours Wala na siya? Ang sakit lang nun. Tska sobrang love na love siya si bear Mukha he is a great father sa anak niya
Hello super successful ang first album ni Zayn and first British act to debut a song in hot 100 and UK simultaneously, yun nga lang nagka anxiety sya and panic attacks, ayaw nya mag promote and perform even his manager nag resign then nawala sya matagal, then marami na solo male act na sumikat din like Shawn that time
Nakakalungkot na he was alone indeed. Na rehab lahat lahat pero parang ng iisa siya. Ung GF na Cassidy, walang kwenta! She knew na may struggle sa addiction ang bf. Never mo talaga iwanan magisa kahit ano pa. Pero un na nga! Tiktok lang ang alam.
1:35 yun naman talaga ang mapait na katotohanan ng buhay. Na magisa ka talaga. At yun nakapaligid sa iyo ay kaya lang nasa tabi mo dahil MAY KAILANGAN SAYO
Parang wala namang kwenta rehab sa kanila. Tapos ang napakamahal pa. Ang program nila saglit lng 3 mos lng ata pinakamatagal. Parang nag flush out ka lng ng drugs sa katawan nun.
Kahit ano pa gawin ng mga tao nagmamahal sa kanya kung sa sarili nya ayaw magbago wala sila magagawa, that's the reality kaya marami nag babago lang pag super malala na at hirap na
Women and partners are not babysitters, not 24/7 nannies, not the therapists. They are the support system, and they could only do so much for the person. His death is very sad and tragic, but it is on him and the choices he made. Stop acting holy holy. You cannot help a person who refuses to help themselves.
@1:35 We don’t know the whole story and it’s unfair na parang sinisisi mo sa babae. Kung maka walang kwenta ka alam mo ba pinagdadaanan niya? Everything happened because of the decisions made.
Bintang agad? She has a life and work to do. Prior to his accident, the gf shared that they were supposed to stay for only 5days but naging 2wks but need na niyang umuwi. Should she stay when the accident happened, I'm sure you will still blame her with your kind of mindset.
Wow, sa dinami dami ng write ups about kay Liam ikaw pa talaga ang nagsabi na walang kwenta ang gf. A planned 5 days stay extended to 2 weeks. May mga taong di kayang magstay sa isang lugar for that long lalo na if unplanned ang extension. She suffered from homesickness and anxiety. Liam was supposed to do 28 days in rehab but checked himself out after just 48 hrs. Alam nya ang ginagawa nya. Hindi nya guardian ang gf. She can give all the support she can give but if the other person, a grown up 31 yr old man at that, refuses to help himself, wala ng magagawa ang gf. Left untreated, something was bound to happen eventually, it was just a matter of when, too bad nangyari lang siya ng mas maaga.
4:31 NAH. She left not because of anxiety and homesickness. Lumabas yung pasabog ni Maya Henry WHILE there were together in Argentina. This is probably the reason why she left.
It is hard to change your old ways if you are still surrounded with the same crowd and in the same environment. For rehabilitation, having a strong support system from family and friends is very important and to distance yourself from the situation and people that triggers you to relapse. Unfortunately, sa showbiz, parang magkakabit na talaga yang drugs and alcohol.
He tried, but it wasn't enough. And besides, sunud sunod yung issues sa career and personal life niya. Did you know he was dropped by his label? And that weeks prior to that, his ex filed a cease and desist letter against him? And then his current gf left him alone sa Argentina? He was a recovering addict with serious mental issues. Pagsama-samahin mo lahat ng factors na yan.
Is she still in medication ba? Or Baka hinde siya nag take…. And he ended up mag alcohol and you know…. Kaya siya nag wala and acted violently . Taking both kasi is a BIG NO NO NO talaga … as it’s a bad combination. Ang hirap din mag isa siya no was there bantayan siya. Sama mo pa ex niya gumawa ng libro siguro isa din yun na trigger sa Kanya. Remember most of the guys can’t handle themselves not unlike tayo mga babae kahit Paano nahahandle natin ng maayos nalalabas natin what we feel mga lalaki? Hinde masydo .
Vilma Santos was able to cope with fame coz when she is at home,siya yung ordinary Vilma living wth parents & siblings,based on interviews.Si NIno Muhlach,strong bond with father.Lea Salonga,with mom
I didn’t really follow their journey but I remember pa na he was like the band leader nung heydays nila. Sad na he fell into alcoholism pala after the band stopped being a group.
Walang hong cctv sa loob ng hotel room. Invasion of privacy na yan. Sad for the tragic death of Liam,but he's the only one who knows what happen to him
9:51 Ang cringe ng mga gullible na lahat nalang kino-connect sa She Knows na yan! Syempre yung CCTV footage sa public area like lobby hindi naman isasa-publiko
One of the reason why he is devastated is parang hindi ata sya na grant ng another record label. Maybe that is the reason why nag tantrum sya sa lobby and yung binabasa nya na email sa laptop nya. But prior para hotel na kinamatayan nya, may isa pang hotel sya na pnag checkinan sa argentina and pinaalis sya because of the same behavior. Naover extend sya sa argentna kasi naka pending ata sya sa US because of drug eme
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Very sensible ng statement ni Cheryl. Hindi na din dapat lumabas yung photos ng room ni Liam
ReplyDeleteDid he felt from 3 storey building?
ReplyDeleteAng sakit sa bangs, Baks! Tagalog nalang kasi.
DeleteOo baks. Ramdam na ramdan nya.
DeleteHahaha 12:40
DeleteHe felt down, so he fell down.
Deleteyes in deed
DeleteNapaka-insensitive mo, baks. Tingin mo ma feel pa talaga nya after nya mahulog? Wag na kasi ipilit kung di kaya.
Delete12:02 huwag na kasi mag english. Tagalog na lang besh haha
Deletetawa tawa nlng ako s ledgi ledgi
DeleteLet me just quote this comment I read from an article in Daily Mail:
ReplyDelete"People like Bruce Springsteen came to fame much more slowly, although he was still very young, he'd had some years of playing around the small local venues with the band who were or quickly became close friends. They had time to develop some resilience and some understanding that the business was hard and that they wouldn't always do well. The people who immediately gain enormous fame through a manufactured process don't have the same experience and don't have a chance to build that resilience. When the fame fades because it's built on nothing solid, they don't know how to cope. Liam Payne's death is tragic for his son and family who now have to try to go on without him but the business had already moved on."
12:21 We are all different - how we feel about things, how we react to things, how we live our lives, how we survive the challenges in everyday life, how we cope with joy and sadness. Some get addicted to things easily, some resist and some enjoy in a healthy manner. We can't compare and we should not compare. That is unfair.
DeleteThank you for sharing baks
DeleteI have to agree on this one. They were very young at that time and the lads were thrown into a world of fame and money. Then all of a sudden it halted, and the way Liam coped with the downside of fame was his addiction, as he was unable to cope with the loss of tours and large crowds he was accustomed to.
Delete12:52 wala namang masama sa sinabi o nashare. Maaring totoo maaring hindi. It's for awareness as well. Everyone in a public comment section must have an open mind na hindi nila solo dito at mababasa lang ang gusto nilang mabasa. That's unfair.
Delete12.52 the purpose of above post is not to compare, its common sense evey person is different, but thats just an analogy of why most artists who skyrocket to fame really fast cant process once their fame starts to fade and it all makes sense. Its the psychology behind what has happened.
DeleteLooks like all of them were affected in the same way but of varying degrees.
DeleteComparing Bruce S and Liam is quite unfair. During Bruce’s time, the music industry is different in terms of marketing, performance and audience. While sa case ni Liam, technology and social media and the way he was discovered. Galing sila sa contest diba? Magkaibang dynamics. hindi pa siya ganap na artista, may pressure na. Hindi lang niya na address yung mental health issues niya. Wala na din siguro magawa family niya.
Delete12:52 Binigay na nga sayo yung rason kung bakit may mga taong kaya mag-cope, at merong mga hindi pero sarado pa din ang utak mo.
DeleteHay naku 12:52, no matter how you put it, we can't help but compare the older generation to the younger generation. They learned life the hard way, while life was served on a silver platter to the young ones. It's okay to compare so we could understand kung bakit napakaraming young artists and celebrities ang namamatay, nalululong sa illegal substances, etc.
Delete11:43 Just so you know, that comment was from Daily Mail article titled "Bruce Springsteen speaks out on the 'enormous pressure' the industry puts on young people in the wake of Liam Payne's tragic death aged 31". PLEASE CHECK AND READ PARA ALAM MO YUNG CONTEXT. Ikaw na din 12:52 para hindi kayo ngumangawa na unfair yang comment na yan. You're welcome! :)
Delete11:43 Teh, Bruce Springsteen made a statement in relation to Liam Payne's death. Feel free to Google it. Magbasa ka din sa ibang entertainment site kasi.
Delete12:52 and 11:43 mga ka-FP may context po kasi itong post ko. I quoted this comment from an article in Daily Mail where Bruce S. speaks out on Liam’s death. Kung palalawakin lang niyo ang utak niyo, this isn’t plainly comparing Bruce and Liam. THIS is the reality of how slow rise to fame and quick rise to fame can do to people. Have you ever wondered why people like Bruce, Paul, and other legends lived long enough despite their massive success? They developed resilience. Look the article up para mabasa mo din yung exact statements ni Bruce. Sorry for not giving you a heads up about where I got this from.
Delete- 12:21
Ano magagawa kung namatay sya under the influence of drugs and alcohol?? Kasalanan ba ng nedia to tell the whole truth?
ReplyDeleteYou’re ignorant
DeleteYou are plain ignorant.Respect the deceased as he has a son and loved ones that are hurting.
DeleteThe whole truth?? They just keep on saying that he's under the influence. But did they ever state that he was doing drugs and alcohol because of the mental issues he's going through after being robbed of a normal life just so they can make millions for the companies behind them? Yes they also made tons of money, but they were all so young when they were pressured and pushed to perform beyond their limits. They were even locked in their hotel rooms for their "protection", but no one thought of removing any alcoholic drinks. Its how he became addicted to it. They were also forced to adhere to a certain image made for them. Forced to sing a specific genre, act a certain way. And once they're no longer profitable, they were chewed out by those who controlled them like a piece of trash.
Delete1.02 everything you said is, but reality. Theres no perfect or ideal life or an ideal world. Thats how things are and works. Was he forced to do it? Has anyone forced him to audition in x factor? Im not saying he was treated right but they also had privileges not normal people have or experience. There has to be some accountability on his part too. He’s not totally a victim to blame it all on the system. I think its important for every person to have accountablity for what u become and not rely on the system to protect u or expect they would actually genuinely care for you. Well his net worth apparently is $50 million even though hes no longer famous, but even thats not enough for him to see life as worth living. Its fame he lost that he couldnt process.
DeleteGusto mong nakabandera sa public photos na may kinalaman sa pagkamatay mo or any of your loved ones? Baliw.
Delete12:52 correct
Delete1:02 Liam wanted the fame and money. His first x-factor audition failed and he came back. If I remember correctly, he was first in the audition line when the next season started. That’s how bad he wanted to make it. Everything you mentioned is part of the music business. No one forced alcohol or drugs on him. He had every choice to walk away and get a normal job like the rest of us.
DeleteSandali lang Cheryl. Im not invalidating your experience while with Liam ha. Pinagka kitaan mo nga siya sa pag pa public ng lahat lahat tapos ngayon kukuda ka. Kamusta naman podcast mo, si Liam pa din topic?
ReplyDeletewrong ex, atey
DeleteSi Cheryl ang ex gf nya na nanay ng anak Nya. Si maya yung sinasabi mo.
DeleteSi cheryl ba or maya tintukoy mo?
DeleteHindi ba si Maya Henry yun??
DeleteYou were referring to his ex fiance named Maya. Matagal na silang wala ni Cheryl and co-parented their son.
DeleteEnglish daw sis
DeleteShutaca ka teh! Pinahiya mo sarili mo sa comment mo. Hahaha Cheryl has been very private about her and Liam's relationship and coparenting. Si Maya Henry ang nagsulat ng book detailing Liam's issues.
DeleteMaya was the one who wanted to expose Liam. Cheryl never tried to profit from him
DeleteHala si ateh 12:53 pinaghalo halo mo n ang mga info. Mabait si Cheryl noh.
DeleteHinde ako super fan ng 1D pero his one of magaganda boses and good looking na din after zayn. ( sa akin lang ito ha) Sayang lang nung nag solo siya hinde siya masydo nag boom unlike sa ibang members eg si harry styles . Sobrang affected ako sa nangyari sa Kanya he was full of life meeting his fans tapos after a few hours Wala na siya? Ang sakit lang nun. Tska sobrang love na love siya si bear Mukha he is a great father sa anak niya
ReplyDeleteHello super successful ang first album ni Zayn and first British act to debut a song in hot 100 and UK simultaneously, yun nga lang nagka anxiety sya and panic attacks, ayaw nya mag promote and perform even his manager nag resign then nawala sya matagal, then marami na solo male act na sumikat din like Shawn that time
Delete3:48 she was referring to liam and not zayn.
DeleteHis music label dropped him hours before
Delete3:48 si Liam po ang topic. Sinabi n pang2nd si liam sa look dept and 1st si Zayn for 1:13 comment.
DeleteAnonymous 12:02, He fault on 2 stories building. Saya kana?
ReplyDeleteKanina “felt” ngayon naman “fault”… FELL po mga acclah!
Delete2:52 si 1:33 sarcastic po
DeleteNakakalungkot na he was alone indeed. Na rehab lahat lahat pero parang ng iisa siya. Ung GF na Cassidy, walang kwenta! She knew na may struggle sa addiction ang bf. Never mo talaga iwanan magisa kahit ano pa. Pero un na nga! Tiktok lang ang alam.
ReplyDelete1:35 yun naman talaga ang mapait na katotohanan ng buhay. Na magisa ka talaga. At yun nakapaligid sa iyo ay kaya lang nasa tabi mo dahil MAY KAILANGAN SAYO
DeleteParang wala namang kwenta rehab sa kanila. Tapos ang napakamahal pa. Ang program nila saglit lng 3 mos lng ata pinakamatagal. Parang nag flush out ka lng ng drugs sa katawan nun.
DeleteKahit ano pa gawin ng mga tao nagmamahal sa kanya kung sa sarili nya ayaw magbago wala sila magagawa, that's the reality kaya marami nag babago lang pag super malala na at hirap na
DeleteCorrect! Bat nya kasi iniwan si Liam dun sa hotel.
DeleteWomen and partners are not babysitters, not 24/7 nannies, not the therapists. They are the support system, and they could only do so much for the person. His death is very sad and tragic, but it is on him and the choices he made. Stop acting holy holy. You cannot help a person who refuses to help themselves.
DeleteJusmiyo sinisi pa yong gf. You are the perfect example of walang kwenta dahil sa mindset na yan
Delete@1:35 We don’t know the whole story and it’s unfair na parang sinisisi mo sa babae. Kung maka walang kwenta ka alam mo ba pinagdadaanan niya? Everything happened because of the decisions made.
DeleteFor clout lang kase c Ante.
DeleteBintang agad? She has a life and work to do. Prior to his accident, the gf shared that they were supposed to stay for only 5days but naging 2wks but need na niyang umuwi. Should she stay when the accident happened, I'm sure you will still blame her with your kind of mindset.
DeleteParang hindi sila ok nung GF base dun sa last video na pinost nya. Siguro nag away sila.
DeleteWow, sa dinami dami ng write ups about kay Liam ikaw pa talaga ang nagsabi na walang kwenta ang gf. A planned 5 days stay extended to 2 weeks. May mga taong di kayang magstay sa isang lugar for that long lalo na if unplanned ang extension. She suffered from homesickness and anxiety. Liam was supposed to do 28 days in rehab but checked himself out after just 48 hrs. Alam nya ang ginagawa nya. Hindi nya guardian ang gf. She can give all the support she can give but if the other person, a grown up 31 yr old man at that, refuses to help himself, wala ng magagawa ang gf. Left untreated, something was bound to happen eventually, it was just a matter of when, too bad nangyari lang siya ng mas maaga.
Delete4:31 NAH. She left not because of anxiety and homesickness. Lumabas yung pasabog ni Maya Henry WHILE there were together in Argentina. This is probably the reason why she left.
DeleteTragic. Ayaw naman nya tulungan sarili nya kaya yan ang nangyari.
ReplyDeleteIt is hard to change your old ways if you are still surrounded with the same crowd and in the same environment. For rehabilitation, having a strong support system from family and friends is very important and to distance yourself from the situation and people that triggers you to relapse. Unfortunately, sa showbiz, parang magkakabit na talaga yang drugs and alcohol.
DeleteHe tried, but it wasn't enough. And besides, sunud sunod yung issues sa career and personal life niya. Did you know he was dropped by his label? And that weeks prior to that, his ex filed a cease and desist letter against him? And then his current gf left him alone sa Argentina? He was a recovering addict with serious mental issues. Pagsama-samahin mo lahat ng factors na yan.
DeleteIs she still in medication ba? Or
ReplyDeleteBaka hinde siya nag take…. And he ended up mag alcohol and you know…. Kaya siya nag wala and acted violently . Taking both kasi is a BIG NO NO NO talaga … as it’s a bad combination. Ang hirap din mag isa siya no was there bantayan siya. Sama mo pa ex niya gumawa ng libro siguro isa din yun na trigger sa Kanya. Remember most of the guys can’t handle themselves not unlike tayo mga babae kahit Paano nahahandle natin ng maayos nalalabas natin what we feel mga lalaki? Hinde masydo .
Vilma Santos was able to cope with fame coz when she is at home,siya yung ordinary Vilma living wth parents & siblings,based on interviews.Si NIno Muhlach,strong bond with father.Lea Salonga,with mom
ReplyDeleteTeh, magkaiba ang pressure ng entertainment industry sa U.S. and U.K.
Deletenawawala ka po ata
Deletetwilight zone lol
DeleteI didn’t really follow their journey but I remember pa na he was like the band leader nung heydays nila. Sad na he fell into alcoholism pala after the band stopped being a group.
ReplyDeleteAno kaya nagtrigger sa kanya para magwala. Kasi ok namn sya nung una tapos nakita ko friendly sya sa mga fans.
ReplyDeleteLatest news is he was reading an email on his laptop sa lobby ng hotel. Yun yung naging trigger ng pagwawala niya sa lobby leading to his death.
DeleteWeird na walang cctv. She knows.
ReplyDeleteWalang hong cctv sa loob ng hotel room. Invasion of privacy na yan. Sad for the tragic death of Liam,but he's the only one who knows what happen to him
Delete9:51 Ang cringe ng mga gullible na lahat nalang kino-connect sa She Knows na yan! Syempre yung CCTV footage sa public area like lobby hindi naman isasa-publiko
DeleteMeron something sa laptop nya kasi yun ang huli nyang tinitignan emails nya daw ano kaya yun tapos nag iba na sya bigla.. dapat imbistigahan.
ReplyDeleteDevastated sya kasi parang hindi naging maganda yung nabasa nya sa record label nya
DeleteOne of the reason why he is devastated is parang hindi ata sya na grant ng another record label. Maybe that is the reason why nag tantrum sya sa lobby and yung binabasa nya na email sa laptop nya. But prior para hotel na kinamatayan nya, may isa pang hotel sya na pnag checkinan sa argentina and pinaalis sya because of the same behavior. Naover extend sya sa argentna kasi naka pending ata sya sa US because of drug eme
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