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@apnews The International Olympics Committee said Friday that Algerian boxer Imane Khelif was born a woman and eligible to compete in her fight against Italy’s Angela Carini. The IOC’s daily press conference had many questions on Khelif, who has landed in the middle of a culture war about gender in sports after Carini quit Thursday’s fight under a minute into the bout. #Olympics #Paris2024 #Boxing ♬ original sound - The Associated Press
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She was born with kipay so she is a woman. Nagparticipate sa Tokyo olympics w/o any issues, in fact ilang beses na din siyang natalo ng kapwa female boxers. Tested with XY chromosomes last year kaya na dinisqualify ng IBA, but IBA is not part of paris olympics. Therefore qualified xa sa paris olympics. If the issue is mas angat ang strength nya bcoz ug xy chromosomes, then how come natalo siya ng ibang female boxers. In short ngdrama lang c Italy.
ReplyDeleteCheck Nancy Navalta. She was a filipino athlete and was disqualified from 1996 Olympics because of the same condition as Imane. She was tested for testosterone and failed it due to high levels. She was later diagnosed Hermaprodite. Dati pinagbawal dahil sa physical advantage tapos ngayon naging okay na. 🙄
DeleteI actually feel bad for her. All her life babae sya since birth. Not her fault kung may xy chormosome ek ek sya. Now na nagkaka name na sya sa field nya, everyone is putting him down. Di lang tlg sya kinaya ni Italy
DeleteAng issue pa sa IBA ayaw nila ilabas yung test, di mo alam kung may test talaga. Tapos ang may hawak ng IBA ay Russian. Bigla nila dinisqualify si Imane nung matalo nya yung isang Russian boxer
Delete8:55 her at her tapos naging him
Delete5:43 rules change darling… iba na ang commitee … kahit constitution natin ngbabago
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DeleteDahil kay JK Rowling na nag assume na trans si Imane, kawawa naman...
ReplyDeleteEven the Italian PM apologized pero si JK Bigot Rowling, silent mode na.
DeleteHaay grabe mga pangungutya sakanya. Akala ko sa Pilipinas lang maraming uto uto.
DeleteDi lang si JK Rowling. Pati si Elon Musk and may widely shared na fb post, Frontline ata yun. Dami naman sumakay sa bigotry train amd expressed outrage without knowing the facts first.
DeleteFelt sad for her, ngka controversy dahil sa drama ni Italy.
ReplyDeleteSore loser si accla, Carini has quit other fights which ended in crying fits.
DeleteIt got traction this time thanks to the hateful patron saint of the transphobics, JK Rowling.
Drama ni Italy???? She was hurt, you call that drama? The Olympics is trying to cover up their mistake. Wag magpaniwala agad teh. Lalaki ang DNA nyan.
DeleteTrue. Tas mag aapologize din pala. But beyond her drama, dapat mga taong nag share, naki sakay sa hate mag apologize din.
Delete6:37 ewan ko sayo. From algeria nga c imane, a muslim country na bawal ang sex change. Mahuhurt tlaga c Italy, boxing yan eh.
Delete6:37 manahimik ka na bigot. yang source nyo na Russian owned IBA ay banned sa Olympics due to heroin trafficking, corruption and ethical issues. Ipagpilitan nyo pa yang XY Chromosome nyo, Khelif was born a girl, reared as a girl and most importantly, IDENTIFIY as a girl wala kang karapatan diktahan or baguhin ang gender nya. Madaming beses na syang natalo sa same sport pero ngayon lang nagka-issue dahil totoo namang sore loser si Italy at dahil sa transphobic tweet ni Rowling.
Delete6:37 kung ayaw noyang mahurt eh di sana hindi siya nag-boxing. Huwag siyang umarte na parang pinulverize siya ni Khelif. Baka kung nakausad siya, mas malalakas pa yung suntok na makuha niya from other opponents. Do note that Khelif isn't even up there sa rankings. Go figure.
Delete6:37 it's boxing expect to get hurt
Delete6:37, sana non-contact sports siya kung ayaw niya masaktan. Isa siyang talunan na walang katiting na sportsmanship man lang. Sumuko siya sa iisang suntok pa lang na natanggap niya tapos iiyak iyak.
DeleteLeason learned
ReplyDeleteHuwag tayo padala kaagad sa hype
Mag hintay muna tayo ng balita mula sa may kinalaman sa issue.
And Italy knew this all along. Italy wasn’t robbed as she claimed, Imane was robbed and humiliated and continues to be.
ReplyDeleteMas maraming male chromosones kaso may kiffy dun yata ibinatay ng IOC
ReplyDelete6:15 hindi din daw mailabas yung supposed test na may Y chromosome daw siya, at yung agency na gumawa ng test ay may motive na siraan si Imane kasi natalo niya yung bet nilang athlete noon. So posibleng fake lang yung test na yon
DeleteOn the other hand, IBA will award the money to the italian boxer. iBA and IOC does not have the same opinion on this matter
ReplyDeleteLOL malamang may agenda ang IBA na banned sa Olympics dahil sa ethical and corruption issues.
DeleteBanned ang IBA sa Paris olympics due to anomaly
DeleteAsan na ung mga nagsabing trans at di naniwalang babae yan sa last post dito sa FP?
ReplyDeleteReally? Mukha talaga kase diysng lalske pati bone structure pang lalake.
ReplyDeleteOkay ka lang. Yung sarili natin woman boxer(out trans talaga sya) si Nesthy Petecio tingnan mo itsu. Wag kang ganyan, Ewan na lang kung sarili nating boxer ang kutyain at ibash katulad ni Imane baka magwala mga peenoise
Delete7:54 Tignan niyo yung mga babaeng boxer/ wrestler/ bodybuilder, talagang maskulado mga itsura nila.
DeleteBut you can still see the obvious difference between a female maskuladong boxer VS a male boxer.
DeleteItaly will get her karma…what a sad state of affairs for this Algerian female athlete
ReplyDeletenasaan na mga Peenoise na nangbash sakanya sa unang article sa FP? Mga paniwalain sa fake news at homophobic.
ReplyDeleteButi pa yan hindi nagparusa magpatayo ng ilan oras don sa nagsabing lalaki sya.
ReplyDeleteO di ba? Ang tahimik bigla rito. Samantalang ang iingay nila in support of the unverified statement by Rowling. People ought to be really sorry for mocking her. Again, Imani Khelif is a woman.
ReplyDeleteTruedis.. agad agad ang pangbabash sa last post dito sa FP kahit na paulit ulit na ang comment about her gender.
DeleteTrue. Ako yung nagcocomment ng paulit ulit sa previous post to explain na born female si Imane at hindi trans. Ako pa nabash at tinawag na tanga hahaha. Dami talagang di marunong mag fact check and walang critical thinking. Pahiya sila ngayon.
DeleteLakas naman ng loob mong mag-demand ng sorry! Napatunayang hindi siya trans. But does that clear with the real issue of his gender? Babae ba siya o lalaki? How about yung high level of testosterone niya? Isn't that an advantage for her?
Delete7:08 if it is an advantage for her eh di sana wala siyang talo sa lahat ng mga laban niya. KO lahat. But that's not the case.
DeleteGrabe nga yung mga comments dun sa isang thread. Di nila alam Philippines nga ang may openly out trans na boxer sa Olympics womens event (di sya formally transitioned, pero para sa kanya Transman daw sya), tapos kung tirahin nila si Imane wow. This is becaoz of the misinformation nina Rowling at Musk
ReplyDeleteWala namang problema ang transman sumali sa women's edition kasi biological woman sya. Sex ang usapan male and female kaya ang transman pasok pa rin sa female category. Ang problema minsan pag intersex kasi nay y chromosome din sila. Kaya sa athletics nadidisqualify sila what more kung boxing. Dapat tinest na lng ng ioc para tapos na wala ng discussion. Para naiwasang ibash.
DeleteTama..medyo pa-woke din kasi ang IOC kaya yung mga conservatives pag nakakita ng gap, attack mode din agad. Dapat mag meet in the middle or else mawawalan ng manonood ang olympics
DeleteWhat I learned from biology class is females have XX chromosomes and males have XY. Kung may XY chromosomes si Imane, that means biologically male siya. Although hindi niya kasalanan na may abnormality sa katawan niya, pero hindi pa rin siya dapat pinaglaro sa women's division. Hindi ito issue ng conservatives vs LGBTQ...issue ito ng fairness at science.
ReplyDeleteShe's born with uterus she's a woman
Deletexy chromosome gives unfair advantage against biological female. amateur plang siya ngayon. basag panga ng mga makakalaban niyang babae sa susunod
DeleteDiba? Dati ng bawal ang ganyang may issue. May nadisqualify pa nga na female athlete natin dati dahil may XY chromosome. Hindi nila kasalanan but it is what it is. 🤷🏾♀️
DeleteD ka din sure kc nga pinangak na may kipay. As per expert, sa ganitong condition the chromesomes is not enough to determine kung male or female.
Delete3:39PM testing XY Chromosomes is not anymore part of their requirements. Thats y they we’re able to fight in Tokyo olympics. IBA is banned in Paris olympics
Delete2:08 Have you heard about Caster Semenya who was born with a vagina but has a wife and fathered a child?
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Delete2:29 is right. Kahit na may condition siya, if true, having XY chromosome and high levels of testosterone would be an unfair advantage. Basic biology lang so please research ano ang implication nito at bakit lugi ang normal females.
DeleteButi nalang di ako nag post ng againts this issue. Buti nalang tlga. THINK BEFORE YOU CLICK era always
ReplyDeleteIf I know, you didn't post because you didn't try to understand the issue. Para ka rin lang observer na walang ginawa kapag may nangyayari ng hindi kanais-nais sa harap mo. Takot kang mapahamak kaya isisave mo sarili mo para pagkatapos ng lahat, malaya kang maghugas kamay.
Deletethat’s not a flex dear.
DeleteKahit manalo pa sya.questionable pa rin ang win nya. Unless maglabas ng formal rules about this, like why they were banned by the WBO. Ano yung gender tests na ginawa. Come clean. By the next Olympics dapat malinaw na na or else kawawa atleta. Btw the WBO chief.has openly said male sya based on gender test
ReplyDeleteI went back to the original FP post about J.K. Rowling's stand. She wasn't even making an issue about the boxer being a transgender, but rather the boxer being "male". And yung mga nag-comment na ka-FP, they weren't even sure na transgender nga. They even asked kung tiboli, lalaki, o trans. The main issue most are pointing it is letting an individual who was found with XY chromosomes and high level of testosterone participate in a fight against a woman.
ReplyDeleteOr I could be wrong with my understanding.
5:29 wrong po kayo in your understanding. Babae si Imane. Maraming babae na may elevated testosterone, at hindi sila nagiging lalaki. It just means may hormone imbalance sila at ang mas common effect nun is ovarian cyst, acne, irregular menstruation, etc. I know kasi mga babae sa family namin are prone to PCOS due to hormone issues.
DeleteAs for yung XY chromosome daw niya hindi naman mailabas ng IBA yung test kuno na ginawa nila. Very fishy. Tapos known pa sila for corruption and ethics violation kaya kaduda duda, baka fake pa yung results na yon
True!
DeleteHer features talaga muha kasing male, masculine yung face nya. siguro nga mas dominant yung male hormone-testosterone nya. and higher levels of testosterone kasi increases muscle mass this makes her stronger than her opponent
ReplyDeleteYung mga concerned kuno sa womens rights who are very loudly outspoken about this and not a word about that pdf file dutch volleyball player allowed to compete in the olympics 🙄 also surprise surprise - even that genetic test is now being contested kung legit ba.
ReplyDeleteAng pathetic lang ng mga iba dito na vindicated kuno kasi hindi sila nagsalita against the issue or the boxer involved. Kinaproud niyo yan mga ateng? Nagre-rejoice kayo na nanalo ang isang kagaya niya na alam ng buong mundo na may malaking advantage sa babaeng atleta? O siya, hindi siya trans. Paano naman yung ibang issue niya from previous fights? Yung hindi niya pagkakapasa sa gender test? Importanteng pag-usapan ito kasi kapag hinayaan natin na magkaroon sila ng advantage against their opponent, then this could be dangerous for women in sports.
ReplyDeleteShow us the test that she has XX
ReplyDeleteYeah she's not a man, just that her chromosomes are XY and not XX as should be for a woman.
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