Ito yung sinabi ni Karen Davila sa TV Patrol kanina regarding KPOP and PPOP. 🤔 pic.twitter.com/xCSYIFtfrC
— britrey 🇵🇠(@britrey) July 23, 2024
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Ito yung sinabi ni Karen Davila sa TV Patrol kanina regarding KPOP and PPOP. 🤔 pic.twitter.com/xCSYIFtfrC
— britrey 🇵🇠(@britrey) July 23, 2024
Kung hindi nag react yung mga international fans ng Sb19 hindi naman siguro magsasalita si Ms.Karen.. Pero infairness naman sa SB19 isa naman sila sa nauna nagsumikap makilala ang PPop sa buong mundo
ReplyDeleteHaha nagsilabasan nga sila. Need ko pa mag translate when I read their comments
Delete12:44 which country yung non-filo fans?
DeleteSana pinost din yung pambabash ng fans ng bini sa SB19 yung pang iinsulto nila sa face at vocals ng boys dahil mas sikat daw idols nila. Juskopo
ReplyDeleteThis is actually sad. Kahit nga article about Bini naka post pinopost nila muka ni stell or yung leader ng sb19 na hindi appealing yung face nila dun. Like, what’s tge point!
DeleteYes, pero di nila mapuna yung talent ng boys. Sooooo…
DeletePareho lang ng fans ng SB19, binabash ang BINI may mga nababasa ko.. mga fans lang ang nag aaway pero friends naman ang 2 group..
DeleteHaha nabasa ko yung reps ng isang fan ng SB, nas maganda pa daw si Justine sa mga Bini pag naka wig hahahaa napahalgapak ako sorry na
Delete9:33 hahahaha!! Apir tayo sizt! Talent is talent. Periodt.
DeleteNothing wrong with what Karen said Pinoy music should be heard all over the world that's the dream
ReplyDelete7:48 Pinoy music ba tawag mo dun? Copycat lang naman ng kpop, Filipino lang ang language.
Delete10:00PM Tumoooh! Hanggang gaya2x nlng tayo
Delete10:00 you obviously haven't heard the depth of Pablo's songwriting.
Delete1246 Narinig ko na. At hindi siya tunog Pinoy. Copycat pa rin. Obviously, blinded tard ka lang na mababa ang standard
Delete1246 Nung pinakinggan ko, nasuka ako. Yan na ba ang music ngayon? Tama observation ng experts, wala nang magiging klasiko sa future generations dahil sa klase ng musika at kanta ngauom.
Delete10:00 probably during the start of sb19 career they sound kpopish since they're under korean management and music producers. but their eps now sounds like pang-filipino even pang international na. bini sounds like bubblegum kpop sound
Delete1246 A kiddo talking about depth? You really don't know the standard. Eye roll.
DeleteWow sa pag didiscredit ng song writing skills. Atleast they have already proven something and made their mark internationally. Nakakahiya ung ugali nyong talangka sa kapwa pinoy.
DeleteEh di kumanta kyo ng tinikling at bahay kubo kung na stuck ang mind nyo sa music na yan! The world has evolve! You should notice that every generation has their own genre ba tawag dun.. lol.. from kundiman to classic to rock to swag to disco to pop ... etc etc...
DeleteAnong nothing wrong when she gave all the credit to Bini.
DeleteTawang tawa ako sa "depth of Pablo's songwriting". Isang tumbling na lang, ilelevel niyo na sa The Beatles ang SB19. Haha
DeleteEven veterans like Gary V appreciate SB19’s music. I personally like their ballads. Their hit song Mapa is actually a masterpiece, even Tilaluha and Liham. They’re obviously not The Beatles, but that doesn’t mean they are not great. @07:56
DeleteWala naman intensyon na masama. Sauce! Mga fantards talaga ng SB19 kala mo nayurakan na idols nila. RABID FANEYS. But I am no fan of SB19 nor BINI. Kung sino ang tatagal dun na lang ako
ReplyDeleteTe mas malala fantards ng Bini! Nagrereact lng ang fans ng SB19 pag hindi nabibigyan ng tamang credits ang idols nila kung talagang deservd naman nila. Sabihin mo yan sa fans ng bini kahit hindi pinapakialaman tumatahol lng. Masyadong tumaas lipad ng fans ng bini kesa sa idols nila
DeleteLol ang point is give credit sa nauna yun lang yun
DeleteMe too, maybe im too old na for their music kaya di ko na maappreciate. Pero sana wag ng mag away away dahil lang sa mga idols. Binabaha na tayo ng bongga, sa ikabubuti na lang tayo magfocus. Wish na lang natin na lalo pang bumongga mga career nila
DeleteYes sinasabi mo yan dahil nga hinfi ka fan at hindi mo alam ang journey ng sb19 from the very beginning at kung anu ano ang hirap na pinagdaanan nila bago manormalize ang PPOP na nakikita mp ngayon na pineperform ng karamihan including BINI.
Delete7:48–7:50 I agree & hindi ako fan of either Ppop groups. Tinawag pa si K na disgusting, as if malaking kasalanan ang ginawa niya sa Sb19. Celebrity fans are so toxic at masyadong mataas ang tingin nila sa idols nila, hindi rin naman perfect ang mga yan 🙄.
Delete8:50/8:13/8:24 ang o-OA niyo! nakakatawang nakakaawa na kayo. Sige lang humanga kayo PERO DON'T EXPECT EVERYONE NA HAHANGA DIN SA MGA IDOLS NINYO. kung gusto niyong humanga at tumanghod sa mga yan BINI O SB19 o kung sino man eh di go, pero wag niyo na tahulan ang mga hindi rabid faneys na gaya ninyo. Cause frankly, some people don't give a d@mn about your idols' existence. Mas may ibang makabuluhang bagay ang ginagawa ng ibang hindi faneys
DeleteMy gad, some people need to get a life, education, hobby, or anything that would to make yourself productive! Jusko, umikot na mundo niyo kakatanggol at explain sa journey kemerut ng bini at sb19 na yan. Bakit ba ipinipilit niyong pakinggan namin at kilalanin ang background ng mga yan? May additional value ba yan sa buhay namin?
DeleteTrulaloo 12:42. Wala akong time sa mga yan kpop o ppop busy ako sa mga problema ko at mag marites.
DeleteBwahahaha 12:42! Mas importante ang tsismis kesa makinig sa music nila. Jusko mga wannabe naman. Kung mag-aaksaya ako ng oras ko, sa FP na lang.
DeleteAnd here we all are in the comment section doing what you accuse the fans of doing. 12:42 may time ka nga magcomment dito, may nagsabi ba sayong maging productive na lang?
DeleteNot a fan of any group. just my observation, hindi pang-international ang Bini kasi yung vocals nila not powerful and stable. kung pang-kpop pwede, pero kung makikipagsabayan sa western artists, waley ang music at vocals nila. Also hindi nakaka-international yung attitude nila with jabbawokeez outfit and the way they respond on social media. parang squammy kasi like their fans. not a good role model to fans esp. the youth
ReplyDeleteNatumbok mo! Nakatikim lang ng hits akala nila superstars level na.
Delete@8:12 hindi ako fan ng Bini, pero all kinds of fandoms have “toxic” fans, hindi lang sa isang groupo yan. The best role model for young fans are their own parents, not celebrities or athletes. At nabasa ko na rin tong comment mo sa ibang comment sections. Paulit-ulit na lang ha 🙄.
DeletePlus the way silang sumagot sa X? Hindi nakakaproud
DeleteRight on the mark, 8:12
DeleteTrue 812. Paano mo maipagmamalaki sa international scene ang Bini kung kpop wannabe? Ang generic ng dating kasi ginaya lang ang mga koreano. Kung ganyan lang, might as well listen to kpop idols. Kaya pls lang, wag na sabihing nation's girl group. Nakakahiya at nakakainsulto.
DeleteMagaling ang SB19 when they veered away from being kpop wannabe to being Ppop. Great music, great voices and harmonies, plus they dance well.
@8:12 Hi daw sabe ni Britney Spears, ye ye ye ye ye ye
DeleteWla nman masamang sinabi c karen, tska aside from Ppop fans hndi nman cla kilala real talk
ReplyDeleteYun nga e di nyo naman pala sila kilala, wala kang alam sa achievements ng SB19. If you have zero to limited knowledge on the subject, pano ka nakakasigurong walang sinabing masama si Karen?
Delete12:12 Yun nman pla aware k nman pla n hndi lhat kilala sb19 so bkit k mooffend kung hndi nman intention ni karen to hurt...jusko mg aral k ng logic wag puro pg fantard alam mo.
DeleteIkaw ata ang di makaintindi ng logic ko 11:56 pero sa pagttype mo pa lang I expect nothing less hahahaha
Deleteyan n nmn mga delulu copycat lng nmn idol nila
ReplyDeleteI cringe with "Ppop" term. Sobrang trying hard ng term. May Jpop na kasi and Kpop way back kaya hindi cringe. I am more proud with OPM referring to Filipino music and artists. Mas original at hindi copycat even yung image at merch.
Delete10:04 poor quality ng OPM ang ppop. Lahat na lang ginaya, tunog, branding, oo, pati merch. Yung pinagmamalaking million views ng streaming, yung mga jologs na fans yung nakatambay sa para iistream yung mga songs at videos kaya tumataas ang views at stream. Malakas lang ang social media at YT ngayon kaya nakikilala sila sa ibang bansa. I doubt kung sisikat sila nung panahon ng traditional media.
Delete12:54 53 yrs old nko but i appreciate their skills (singing, dancing, song writing). infairness very versatile ang SB19 and they're waving our PH flag. I'm not a fan pero kesa makitalangka ako, shut up na lang and give credit when its due.
DeleteAng jojologs ng mga fans nila. Lahat nalang pinupuna. Ang chachaka naman ng mga pinaglalaban. Saka na sila mag gaganyan pag na penetrate na nila yung US market, di yung feeling international na pero mga pinoy pa din sa ibang bansa ang mga faneys.
ReplyDeletesadly you don't know anything about their fanbase.. hindi po puro pinoy ang fans ng SB19.. huwag kasi magcomment ng mga ganito pag walang alam..mema lang eh! research din pag maytime!
DeleteDi ka sure. Haha
Delete1245 Fanbase o clout chaser for views? Mag-concert nga sila sa Philippine Arena tingnan natin kung mag-fly yang mga international clout chasers na ipinagmamalaki niyo to watch copycat ppop jologs.
Deleteilang kanta na nila nakapasok sa billboard haha! Kung di kayo fan, manahimik na lang kayo kesa pairalin yang crab mentality nyo
DeleteYung mga tinutukoy mong chaka teh may awards and recognitions na internationally.
DeleteYan ganyan kasi ugali ng iba. Pag pinoy ang sinusuportahan JOLOGS agad, tapos kapag kpop ang idols, COOL ka na nyan kahit di mo naman maintindihan ang lyrics nila lols
Guys relax, kahit naman ako hindi ko kilala dati ung SB19. Hanggang ngayon nga, hindi ko pa rin sila kilala individually, pero as a group, oo. At proud ako sa kanila.
ReplyDeleteIbang generation kasi si Ms. Karen. Syempre pwedeng hindi lang sya aware how big SB19 is right now. Hindi naman sinasadya maka-offend ung comment nya. She means well, lalo na't parang wina-wagayway ng SB19 ang bandila ng Pinas tuwing nagpeperform sa ibang bansa.
She interviewed SB19 wayback 2021 and she was giggling for them. Parang nagka amnesia lang bigla?!?
DeleteHahahaha! Ang oa mo 12:46. Sa dami ng mga ininterview ni Karen matatandaan pa ba nya lahat ng mga yan? Siguro yung sikat talaga o ka close nya lang maaalala nya.
Delete1041 something's wrong with her if she can't remember who she interviewed. Parang user lang, social climber, for clout.
DeleteKaren should not have defended herself to this issue. wala naman siyang masamang binitawang salita at higit sa lahat opinion niya yun. Na sa era na ab tayo na kailangan ingatan ang sasabihin para walang masaktan? Asan ang freedom of expression.
ReplyDeletePero it’s also true na sb19 ang unang nag introduce ng ppop internationally.
Delete8:37 Mas palalakihin pa ang issue ng fans of SB19 at ibang bashers & trolls pag hindi siya nagsalita. Agree ako sayo, wala naman siyang masamang sinabi. Ung mga fans nato take things way too personally & get easily offended kung may narinig silang hindi nila gusto sa sinasamba nilang idolo. Tapos sasawsaw pa ung ibang bashers at trolls to make it worse.
DeleteNothing wrong naman talaga sa sinabi nya pero she has to speak the truth.
DeleteHahahaha! Kaloka kayo. Ako nga hindi ko alam yang mga ppop ppop na yan at hindi ko alam sino nagpaumpisa nyan. Jpop may ilan akong kilala kalimitan mga ost ng anime.
DeleteAt 837 she was standing there as a newscaster. Lahat ng sasabihin niya may maniniwala or maiimpluwensiyahan kahit hindi totoo.
DeleteNagiging toxic din minsan mga fandom. Nagsisiraan at nghahanapan ng baho ng idols nila. Karen didn't mean to invalidate SB19. She was just caught in the moment and only was focused on BINI for theat moment. Prang perfect na lahat naka bash kay Karen.
ReplyDeleteI just don’t like how they market this girl group. Sobrang push na push talaga na lahat yata ng empleyado ng abscbn sinabihan na banggitin lagi tong girl group na toh. It’s obvious and it’s oa na
ReplyDeleteI also like BINI but I feel like they are already overexposed
DeleteDati pa naman ganyan yung ABS sa SB19. Maybe there’s something to do sa binibuild up nilang group. Pero grabe mga caption nila noon sa SB19 twing may post about them calling them KPOP wannabe. Sana di nalang nila pinost at all. Nala dagdag lang sila sa hate sa totoo lang
ReplyDeleteBiased talaga sila. They rarely promote SB19 tapos when they have news about them pa sa tv lagi nila sinisingit yung Bini or Hori7on sa news about SB19. Pansinin nyo.
ReplyDeleteBut infairness sa Horizon, magagaling naman talaga sila at saka hindi sila attitude, love sila ng fans ng SB
DeleteThey are not ABiasCBN for no reason haha
DeleteE malamang hindi naman under sa company nila yung group. Bakit nila ipopromote?
DeleteSa gitna ng baha at Kalani dad ang mga fandom ikinasal it pa yan??? Yung mga fandom ng KPop at PPop, please lang wag masyadong pabida huh. Di nyo ikayayaman. Dinlangbkayo OA yung level ng mga electric fan nyo s utak juice mio.
ReplyDeleteHirap intindihin ng comment mo sis
DeleteHindi mo rin ikakayaman ang wrong spelling at grammar ante kaya kalmahan mo lang
Deletehindi nga sila kilala ni sisi. hahaha
ReplyDeleteSisi interviewed them nung kasagsagan ng international achievements nila
DeleteButi na lang d ko kilala to parehas
ReplyDeleteThese fans are so toxic. Walang masama sa sinabi. Saka wag nga kayong maoffend kung may hindi nakakakilala sa mga idolo niyo! Hindi lahat ng tao pare pareho ang interest jusmio.
ReplyDeleteWhere's the toxicity in that if your only intent is to let these public newscasters to speak the truth? Hindi yan sa interest teh! Kung newscaster ka, you're expected to tell the truth and not make-up stories! With what she did, obviously FAKE NEWS! ano ba dapat gawin if she's spreading FAKE NEWS? Naturally, you correct it!
DeletePag news galing sa kafam, expect na laging bias sila sa Talent nila.
DeleteAt 1019 she interviewed sb19 a year or two ago kaya dapat alam niya yung history nila. Nadala siya ng bini hype ng management.
Delete12:51 tapos na ang balita nung sinabi yan ni karen, personal opinion niya nalang yun. I’m just saying that in general, hindi lahat ng tao may alam jan sa mga idol niyo! Some people may have missed hearing about your idols, and newscasters are not an exception! Tao lang din mga yan! AS IF naman of national relevance yang mga idol niyo! Lahat nalang kinakaoffend niyo!
Delete@12:54 well hindi kasama si KD sa mga excemptions mo. May interview si Karen sa kanila 2 years on her personal blog nung nagstart na sila sumikat. Lol
Delete12:54 kaso lang nainterview na nga ni Karen yung SB19 dati at puring puri pa sya. Ang kukulet ng mga katulad mo
DeletePenoys doing penoy things again :) :) :) You guys do know that KD is just a talking head right? :D :D :D She just reads whatever the teleprompter tells her to say right? ;) ;) ;) The writers/editors behind the scene tells them what to say right?? :D :D :D And if you don't want to watch her, there's a thing called remote control... CHANGE THE CHANNEL :D :D :D
ReplyDeleteNope, wala na yan sa teleprompter kasi dulo na yan ng show where they give their insights.
DeleteEwan ko sa yo, wala na teleprompter kasi tapos na balita, tsikahan na kasi yun. So dahil mali na premise mo, ayoko na magcomment sa iba mo sinabi
DeleteNot a fan of SB19.
ReplyDeleteBut give credit where credit is due.
She is supposed to be a journalist and should have done her research first..
Not a fan daw e live chikahan yan hindi naman interview na kaylangan aralin ni KD kung sino sila. Jusko utak!
DeleteMarami kasi ang nagreact kasi halata naman na sobrang hype ng abs ang bini to the point na hindi na makatotoohanan minsan. Like that jabbawocckeez stunt and the big deal dun sa nawala daw na standee nung isang member.
ReplyDeleteCringe talaga sa jabbawocckeez stunt ng mga inday. So cheap
DeleteThe more I hear about those groups and their toxic fandoms na panay pilit na pakinggan sila, the more I dislike and avoid them.
ReplyDeleteFandoms are scary group of entitled delulus
ReplyDeleteWala ng mas delulu pa sa pinoy fans. Hahahahaha!
ReplyDeleteSo proud of SB19 and BINI. Ang gagaling nila. Congrats
ReplyDeleteKaren matagal nang bukas gawa nang SB19. Ung Bini di ko bet, di kasi sabay sabay
ReplyDeleteCredit where it should be due. PPop still has a long way to go to meet Kpop's success. The important thing is that the Ppop is active. They will find international success at some point. Hallyu did not succeed overnight. It took a good.
ReplyDeleteNakaabot na dito fans ng SB19 haha lahat ng post na umaayon kay Ms.Karen nagcocomment sila… parehong Phil pride SB19 and BINI wag na kayo mang away
ReplyDeleteIf copycat ka as in all concept ng international artists ginagaya mo, there's nothing to be proud of. Second rate, trying hard, copycat.
ReplyDeleteEdi wag mo na rin support mga bands and iba pang opm artist. VST and Hotdogs gumaya lang sa Beegees, Eraserheads sa Beatles, Regine V/Lani etc gaya lang kila Mariah Carey, Celine Dion and marami pang iba. Music is universal. Hindi sya pag-aari ng isang bansa lang.
Delete2:50 Iba yung nainspire sa nanggaya. Sila Regine Lani gaya gaya talaga yan dahil cover singer lang naman sila. Pero yung ibang binaggit mo hindi.
Delete@7:02 so ang ppop hindi kpop, jpop, american pop inspired? Hindi naman nila niremake yung songs nila.
Delete@7:02 Kpop was also inspired by Jpop so where do we draw the line para di matawag na copycat? Again, music is universal.
DeleteSB19 also has Filipino ballad songs, FYI.
I’m an Atin and a Bloom. Yung mga nega on BOTH sides ang nagpapasira sa pag angat ng Ppop. Kahit mga foreign fans napapansin na, nakakahiya! And hindi pa sapat that SB19 and Bini are friends and show it publicly. Umiinit dugo ko sa inyo!!
ReplyDeleteBini is not Ppop. They're Filipino girl group wanting to be kpop. I'd rather watch and listen to kpop music or Ppop music than these kpop wannabe-nis.
ReplyDelete💯💯💯
DeleteHindi naman sila wannabes. Nag audition sila and they have talents. Hindi lahat pinapalad jan! Sila ang ilan lang sa napili.
DeleteWala naman masama sa sinabi. Lahat na lang ginagawan ng issue. Mga pinoy talaga pass time gumawa ng issue. Tumulong na lang sana sa mga nangangailangan ngayong panahon. Wag OA.
ReplyDeleteEnd episode tlga ng tv patrol ang bini no, lagi cla BINIbenta dito.
ReplyDeleteHype lang naman one day those recording artists will just come and go . True singers and performers ang matitira, Kaya tong mga faneys ba to .
ReplyDeleteTrue singers and performers sila at matuto pa sila
DeleteSB19 have reached their goal. Pero aminin natin na hindi pa din sila ganun kakilala. Magkaiba sila ng BINI. Lets admit na nagsisimula palang nga ang BiNi pero iba ang strategy nila sa girl group na Bini. Kasi mas nakikilala sila ng tao not individually but their group. May mga gimiks sila, endorsments at yung 2 songs nila na nghit. Madami pang darating so lets just wait.
ReplyDeleteLahat ngayon kilala na ang BINI. Bitter nalang ang hindi. Kaya nga ang iinit ng ulo ng bashers e. Still publicity for the Girlsss...
ReplyDeletehmm i don't think bini will be recognized globally, pang-local lang sila. the global market is already saturated with kpop like singers: twice, red velvet, new jeans, pare-pareho sila ng tunog ng bini. if they can't bring something new to the table something unique and powerful, they're just another kpop wannabe girl groups from the philippines
ReplyDelete