Thursday, June 27, 2024

Carla Abellana States Argument for Divorce Bill

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  1. Sorry for being ignorant. Ano ba ang brief difference ng divorce at annulment? Please answer, thank you.

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    1. Yung record yata na kinasal ka. Kapag annulment yata is mawawala yung record na kinasal ka na before at some point in your life. Pero kapag divorce naman, nasa record niyo na kinasal ka this such and such na date tapos napawalang bisa yun. Yun ang pagkakaintindi ko sa nabasa ko noon.

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    2. Null and void ang marriage if Annulment, meaning it never happened if granted. With divorce, you acknowledge that the marriage existed, it just didn’t work out.

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    3. Also, annulment 50-50 ng properties or if ano ang deal niyo magasawa magbibigay yung mas may money. With divorce alimony after divorce if sino mas may pera.

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    4. 1:10 that's not realistic... yeah null snd void kuno ang kas pero you still have a record sa korte na kinasal ka. Dami kasi mga epal sa pulitika sa Pinas. Controlled by men.

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    5. Annulment: null and void so walang bisa ang kasal umpisa pa lang. Walang hatian ng properties at walang spousal support. Separate court filing o kaso kung gusto mong maghabol sa child support.

      Divorce: may bisa ang kasal pero naghiwalay kayo at hindi na kayo ngayon kasal. Maghahati ang couple sa ari-arian at kung anuman ang properties niyo na naipundar habang kasal kayo. Meron ding spousal support para sa mas maliit kumita ng pera. Kasama sa court order ang tungkol sa child support at child custody.

      Iyan ang dahilan kaya ayaw ng mga politicians sa divorce. Takot sila sa hatian ng properties, spousal support at child support. Dahilan lang ang religion.

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    6. Ke annulment pa yan or divorce may problema tayong lahat sa sustento, hindi uso yan sa Pilipinas ke mayaman o mahirap walang sustento. First world countries matic ang sustento ng asawa, ng mga anak pero ibahin mo ang Pilipinas

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    7. 2:42 who said walang hatian ng properties? toinks

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    8. Grounds din. Masyado marami conditions for nullity of marriage like proving na nagsinungaling ang spouse mo before the wedding (example iba pala gender orientation niya), psychological incapacity (marami ayaw nito kasi parang pino-prove mo sa court may tililing napangasawa mo), or kaya irreconcilable differences (again mahirap i-prove sa korte anong pinag-aawayan niyo mag-asawa na di na talaga kaya maayos).

      Sa divorce if same2x sa ibang countries wala masyadong drama sa korte. Both parties need to agree lang na di na talaga sila pwede i-save. Mag-uusap lang ang parties ng conditions to dissolve the marriage. In the US if one spouse cheats matic pabor dun sa nag-file ang magiging hatian ng ari-arian and custody.

      Less hassle and less stressful ang divorce.

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    9. Legal obligations vs moral obligations. Yung walang takot sa Dyos pero Kunwari takot sa Dyos di nila fulfill moral obligations nila - sustentento kasama dun. Kaya alam mo na bakit ayaw ng decision makers.

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    10. May annulment naman pala bakit kailangan pa yan divorce. Kailangan tanggapin nyo yang hirap maghiwalay ng matuto kayo.

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    11. 1102 kasi mahal ang annulment. Gusto mo sagutin mo lahat ng gastos ng lahat ng commenter dito na gusto makipaghiwalay. Pala desisyon ka rin naman sa buhay ng iba

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    12. Yung grounds ng annulment hindi makatao and hindi reasonable

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    13. @6:44: I was going to say the same thing.
      @2:42: Remember the ex-first daughter's highly publicised annulment case?

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    14. Kasi makalat ang annulment. Magsisiraan pa kayo at maghahanap ng dahilan bat kayo maghihiwalay. At kailangan may proof. Psych incapacity, abuse, lack of legal merit, blah blah blah. So much drama. So much legal fees pa kasi ang tagal!

      Di na lang tanggapin na the marriage ended and people have to move on.

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    15. 6:44 and 8:34, nagkakaroon lang ng hatian sa properties sa annulment kung nakapangalan sa inyong dalawa dahil pareho kayong may-ari. Kung sa isa lang nakapangalan, walang habol ang isa. Maraming gumagawa ng ganyan sa Pilipinas na sa isa lang pinapangalan ang properties kahit kasal kayo. Kung na-annul ang kasal niyo, walang habol ang wala sa pangalan.

      Sa divorce, kahit sa isang tao lang nakapangalan, community property pa rin iyon, at may habol ka. Kahit sa properties na naipundar noong single pa, ang equity noon ay community property din.

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  2. She is so beautiful. Lacks charisma lang talaga at marketing ng network.

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    1. Me itsura lang, di naman sobrang ganda.

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  3. This isn't black and white. Yes, there are those that stay in the marriage for the sake of the children. Is it bad to put your children over yourselves? No, that's unconditional love. In a world where "self-care" becomes such a trend, parang wala na rin tayong sense of sacrifice. Before anyone over-reacts, I am not against divorce, but this is a case-to-case basis talaga. When a marriage truly becomes abusive (physical, emotional or financial) then yes to divorce. Pero wag naman sana yung, you have your differences na that don't really constitute abuse, divorce kaagad. Marami na din sensitive nowadays - people claiming they have abusive parents or partners, they have been gaslighted, etc. When in fact, maybe it needs for the couple to have a deeper and vulnerable conversation. I hope this also gives all couples that are planning to get married to think really really hard before entering into a marriage. Ang hirap nung lumaki yung bata na hindi buo ang pamilya.

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    1. Very well said. I agree.

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    2. You won't be able to have a proper conversation with your abuser when you're being gaslighted - if you haven't experienced it. I have a friend who went through this.

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    3. I understand where you’re coming from but I respectfully disagree. Yes, marriage is a sacrament that should be taken seriously. However, you don’t need to have a life altering circumstance to be allowed to divorce. Anyone who wants out of the marriage, regardless of the reason, should have that option. Personally, I think marriage is worth fighting for. But that is my personal conviction that I cannot and will not impose on anyone. None of us should give the government too much power to control our lives. The government should not tell you who to love, how long to stay in the marriage, or anything else that impacts your personal life.

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    4. Divorce may grounds yan bago ma approved LOL di yan basta basta lang no! Ang babaw mo mag isip

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    5. I agree with you. There should be a valid caused for divorce. A grounds that are nit to shallow. pag-aralan mabuti before i-execute or isabatas.

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    6. Kahit ano pang really, really hard ang gawing pagiisip before deciding to get married, hindi pa rin yan guarantee na makakagawa ng tamang pasya. Wala, as in walang formula talaga! Because people change, feelings change. Pag may isang nagbago na, that would be the start, pag may isang ayaw na talaga then how? Mauuwi lang sa mas malala pa

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    7. ang masasabi ko lang, ang haba ng sinulat mo mhie. eh magsasaing pa ko eh.

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    8. True. May epekto pa din sa mga anak ang broken family. Iba ang magulang na kasama mo 24/7 versus once a month visitation kung meron pa. And why would I divorce a husband, so he can live happily ever after with his mistress? No way. She'll forever be a mistress. And I'll forever own half of his wealth until his death when it'll be entirely mine. Provided walang physical or verbal abuse. Otherwise, divorce na yan plus pakulong mo pa sa VAWC

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    9. Sis, this is why you need to “file” for divorce, and then they either grant it or not.

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    10. Ang high blood naman ni anon 12:22 haha.Comment agad ng ang "babaw mag-isip" w/o even intelligently defending their reasoning. Defend your stance if you have one huy, hindi yung puro one sentence lang tapos nang-aatake ka pa. 😅

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    11. 12:53, may hatian ng properties sa divorce at alimony.

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    12. Ito lang masasabi ko mga mhie sa US, Germany etc gumagana sa kanila ang divorce dahil suportado sila ng gobyerno, Pinas wala naman IP ang sustento ang mga nagdidivorce, pahirapan kaya pwede ba! Ayusin nyo muna ang kahirapan dadami ang kabit at mga anak sa labas na nganga

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    13. Staying for the kids is actually damaging for the kids. For them to see the hate/unhappiness, Minsan they feel it’s their fault kaya malungkot parents nila. I personally felt I held my dad back, watching him be unhappy para samin — it’s more hurtful. My parents didn’t need to be separated, I already felt it sa bahay. So respectfully, don’t use the kids as an excuse.

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    14. 1159 mahirap lumaki sa sirang pamilya. masyadong unquestioned as a good ang “buo” eh kung sira naman.
      the child will not fare well if the parents are not themselves resourced individually and as a couple. there are ways to co-parent well, and the children are all the better for it.

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    15. 1221 same way I won’t give the church that power whose agents and representatives are generally arbitrary and print to cherry picking. Separation of church and state.

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    16. Pinagsasabi mo 2:47. Bakit ngayon ba na walang divorce e walang kabit at anak sa labas? Gumagana ang divorce sa mga bansang nabanggit mo not because suportado sila ng govt but because the law requires the men (or women) to pay child support and alimony in the event of a divorce. Naku naku aral muna bago kuda

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    17. 12:21 and 12:22 obviously, both of you didn't fully comprehend what the original commenter explained.

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    18. 11:59 Staying in the marriage for the sake of the kids is not unconditional love but unconsciously teaching your children selfishness.

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    19. Louder pls Rhythm 2:23. Dami ditong emotional and dinadaan sa pang iinsulto or put down comments. Di naman makapag isip ng matinong argument.

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    20. Sa totoo lang, 11:59 has the best and most logical argument I read so far. This is why couples must give a careful thought about marriage.

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    21. Love, loyalty, respect and for some, faith binds a couple in marriage. Not children.

      Stop making children your excuse for putting up in a miserable marriage!

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    22. 10:57: I understood the original commenter. Part of the point was to reserve divorce for certain harmful circumstances and not just for simple differences. That’s where I beg to differ. Divorce should be an option regardless of the reason. Now, how that impacts the children is a moral and ethical responsibility that should be personal.

      10:28: I agree. Which is why it’s hard for the Phils to agree on divorce because many are struggling to separate the state and the church

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    23. Bat di nalang kasi lagyan ng entrance exam yung marriage license? Yung papasa yung talagang alam kung sino asawa nila inside out.....

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  4. May point siya. Some stay because they have a child. Ayaw nila maging broken family.

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  5. The irony is... :) :) :) Men doesn't want to get married :D :D :D Women are the ones asking/pushing for marriage ;) ;) ;) Saan ba pupunta itong relasyon natin? :D :D :D Kailang tayo mag papakasal? ;) ;) ;) Kaloka :D :D :D

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    1. **men DON'T**

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    2. Hindi counted opinion mo kasi lagi kang mali sa grammar!!

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    3. People who want to have a family aim for marriage. The ones strong and fit enough to carry their genes into the future. You are not one.

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    4. Lol. Si smiley nakapaliit ng social circle kasi ganyan lang ang alam nya. Marami akong kilala na "binakuran" agad-agad through kasal para di na "makuha" ng iba yung babae. Tapos ang ending yung lalaki pa rin ang nag-cheat hahaha

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    5. My dad is a good man. Walang bisyo at all. May respeto, integrity, dignidad. He asked my mom to marry him. She didn't pressure him. They were together until my dad passed away years ago. Don't channel your insecurities and traumas here Smiley.

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  6. Since wala pang divorce jan, you don’t have to stay in one roof. May choice naman na umalis or paalisin. But yeah, I guess not everyone can afford to do that. Sana for now, punished nalang nila mga dead beat dad at mga cheaters. Pede naman kasuhan kaso mga wives kesho naaawa sa mga anak kung makukulong tatay. Tanggalin ang awa para matuto sila.

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  7. She'a pretty and talented too pero di ako makamoved on sa mga gamit niyang di malinis

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    1. Good one haha! Mga ganung shoes tinapon ko nalang kesa ibenta pa or ipamigay nalng.

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  8. You know why ayaw ng mga law makers yan, it is because of child custody and support clause. Plus the division of properties ayaw din nila un lalo na pag SAH wife daw. Napaka unfair talaga ng mga yan, while sa annulment kasal lang ang bisa pero sa child custody at proprty mahina

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  9. Best move is do not get married
    Mas marami disadvantages pag nasa Pinas ka

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    1. Lalo na kung financially independent ka na.

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    2. Hassle pa sa mga papers/documents pag nag hiwalay! Daming requirements at gastos!!!

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    3. The best move is to pressure the sleeping senators to do their jobs. And please for the love of all that is great and mighty, DO NOT VOTE for the idiots that are sitting now

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    4. Trulaloo! Kaya ako hindi na mag-aasawa at anak sa totoo lang ang gulu-gulo!

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  10. mas maganda divorce kasi OBLIGADO ang asawa mag support sa mga bata. kesa naman nambababae asawa mo tas iiwan kayo, takbo kayo sa tulfo para magreklamo hindi nagbibigay. at least sa divorce, korte na ang magtatakda sa kanya or else mananagot siya sa batas.

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  11. Naiirita na ko sa pakalmang paechos na tono ng boses nya. Ugh!

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  12. ang di ko gets, bakit idinadahilan ang abusive and not peaceful marriage to be able to get out of the marriage

    then mag file ng legal separation - sa legal separation naman, inaayos din ang separation of properties, visiting rights, and even sustento... if system is law and not enough, then amend the law

    sana wag na lang isugarcoat - you want divorce, fine... so you can get out of the marriage and (which is fine if valid na ang reason) and REMARRY... yes REMARRY

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    1. And what is wrong with wanting to remarry?

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  13. Bakit kailangan pa ng Divorce? Dun palang kayo na may kasalanan. pareho kasi kayo nangako kayo sa Diyos na magsasama at kamatayan lang maghihiwalay sainyo. Sa hirap at ginhawa kayo padin magsasama. Wag na yang divorce aprubahan. Kahit naman kasal kayo pwede na kayo maghiwalay ng landas kung nagkasawaan na pero kasal padin ang pgkilala sainyo. Umaabuso na kayo sa kabaitan ng Diyos.

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  14. Kaya kayong mga botante jan, ayusin nyong bumoto. ilang dekada na same same lang naman yung mga nakaupo sa senate, sa provincial naman, same family nagpapaikot sainyo, simula tatay hanggang anak, asa politika. Di na kayo natuto

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  15. Divorce will hopefully lower the population

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  16. Maitanong ko lang, lalo na sa mga catholic na naging christian o lumipat ng iba pang religion. Bakit yung divorce ng religion pumapayag kayo, pero yung divorce sa mag-asawa ayaw nyo?

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  17. Ang Adultery or Concubinage cguro ibasura niyo nalang. Kasi nga nagkakapatayan dahil diyan kesa maayos na paghihiwalayan.

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  18. Sana yung marriage parang renewal lang ng passport. Pwede mo renew or hayaan mag expire lol.

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