Lahat na lang ba kailangan i-asa sa PAO? Kung walang pera eh di maghanap ng lawyer na gustong mag pro bono. Yung pagkasal ba inasa sa gobyerno? Hindi naman diba so wag i-asa ang divorce sa gobyerno. Out of pocket dapat ang gastos diyan. Anyway I am pro-divorce at wag sana yung mga lame excuse na yan para di ituloy ang bill.
Dapat may way din na pwede mag divorce ang couple na mag file on their own sa court. Sa US pwede yun. Pero pag may properties na usapin at custody, dun kakailanganin ng lawyer.
2:43 kung sa US 300 dollars lang ang filing fee (depende sa state) at may mga lawyer 500 dollars package mura na yun. Mas mura pa dapat diyan kung gagawin ang divorce bill at dadami din trabaho ng mga lawyer kasi mas maraming makaka afford ng service na yan compared sa annulment na matagal at may certain grounds pa na kailangan patunayan.
sana they patern it sa iba na may consented divorce para may option not to go to court. Hindi naman mag papa divorce ang couple na masaya pa sa relasyon nila
Ang point kasi ni senator Chiz kung sino may pera the court will favor that party and yun walang pera agrabyado na naman. Hindi dapat i rush if may loopholes kasi problema na naman yan kung defective yun batas. If may divorce it should be accessible to both mayaman and mahirap.
11.49 what if di mo afford to hire a good lawyer do you get it dont expect the judge to have same rational as you, there are many aspects in divorce or any court case there are technicalities. Its not as simple as 2 ppl separating, there are issues on custody and money or assets too.
My mother stuck with an abusive alcoholic man with a bad temper for years. Tiniis na lang alang alang sa mga anak. Our lives would have been much better kung nakulong na lang ang ama namin or naghiwalay sila. Mas payapa ang buhay.
5;09 are you for real ?? Have some compassion for God's sake!! Maybe the mother isn't aware of her husband's devilish acts prior to marriage? Did that ever occur to you?
5:09 Tell that to the millions of women na after marriage na nalaman ang totoong ugali ng napangasawa nila. I've had friends and family na bongga ang kasal tapos less than a year of marriage nabalitaan mo na lang na hiwalay na.
yun mga yung point mga neng, kilalanin mabuti yung aasawahin bago magpakasal. wag basta basta magpakasal kesyo gusto ng magulang or societal pressure. ganun. wag yung go lang ng go, may easy way out naman mentalidad.
Ibang klase din si 5:09. Sana kung lahat nalalaman ang mga ugali ng mga napapangasawa bago pa ikasal o magsama, edi sana wlang relasyon na panget. Kung lahat pwde mo munang iscreen. Kaht nga kaibigan o kamaganak malalaman mo lang ang tunay na ugali pag nagkasama na kayo sa iisang bubong.
ako lang ba? pero parang laging walang sense tong si MJ.. wala din syang credibility na talaga for me based on her track record ng pakikisawsaw sa mga issues..
Nagbasa ba kayo ng buong article or nag-base lang kayo sa title? Chiz and another senator are opposing the bill kasi covered na daw yung grounds ng divorce sa annulment. Kaya sya nag enumerate dyan ng grounds na sa annulment. Bakit ang bilis nyong mangbash kay MJ?
1:29 just because you can opt out, wala nang kwenta? Nonsense. For me mas meaningful nga yung marriage if there's a mutual commitment, hindi yung abusive o pilitan.
Pinagsasabe ni girl? Sinasabi lang ni Chiz na dapat ilagay sa batas na pwede mag handle ang PAO lawyers ng case, para makapag divorce din ang mahihirap
Treew! saka haller lawyer c chiz alam nya yang grounnds ng legal sep.. and kht d xa lawyer xempre nabasa nya ung bill..kaloka c mj! iba cnsbi ni chiz, low comprehension!
Same di ko rin gets hanash ni MJ anong konek sa statement ni Sen Chiz is parang mayaman lang magbebenefit sa existing provisions ng divorce kaya gusto nya maging accessible din para sa mahihirap via PAO
Kaya lang ayaw sa divorce yung iba dito kasi takot maghatian sa properties. Kung poor ka, mas madali ang divorce coz walang pag aari ang pag hahatian. Move on na agad...
false. kaya nga may mga lawyers na nagsspecialize sa divorce dahil sa legal ramifications ng dissolution ng marriage. properties, finances, child custody, prenup conditions etc. chiz was basically saying that PAO should also be allowed to handle divorce cases para dun sa mga walang budget.
Sa US ganyan lalo na pag walang anak at nagrerent lang. You can get divorced in a few hours by going to court yourselves and get the final paperworks in less than a month.
dapat ang pinapayagan lang mag file ng divorce yung 10 yrs pataas na physically separated na para tlgang hiwalay na para for legality na lang ang hinihintay. meaning wala na tlgang pag asang mag balikan. in my opinion lang naman ito.
Meron iba hindi reach ng 10 years dahil pinatay na (girl in the drum remember) or nag suicide na (mt Carlson remember?) siguro a couple of months na not living together sufficient basis.
Not all divorce need lawyers, I'm sure there is a country with well established divorce laws we can copy. Normally need lang ng lawyer pag may pinag aawayan na property or contesting support.
Kaya nga diba sinabi ni Chiz na the current divorce bill is only accessible to mayaman kasi need maglawyer-up. I am pro-divorce myself but this needs to be accessible to all or else yung mas nangagailangan like abused spouses w no money can fight fairly. Baka ang bagsak niyan sa mayamang spouse mapunta lahat ng favor kasi sya lang can afford a lawyer.
Congress naman can mandate the fees associated to be affordable para dun sa gumagamit ng cabinet level outreach agencies, medj overreach but when did that stop them.
Go MJ! Yung mga ayaw kang magsalita siguro shallow at walang mga opinion sa mga bagay bagay. Go lang, share your thoughts. If they don't like it, they are welcome to unfollow or block lol
Context mga sis! Binasa nyo ba ang buong article at hindi lang ang title? Dalawang senators ang nagbigay ng opinion dun, si Chiz and Joel Villanueva. They are opposing the bill and also questioning why pinalawak ang grounds for divorce, na according to them ay already covered na daw ng annulment. So MJ is just enumerating the grounds for divorce, masama ba yun??
2:31 hala okay ka lang????? Pagnonotirized nga ng documents need ng lawyer..yan pa kaya. And sa divorce may legal negotiations yan lalo pag mayaman ang involve. Wag ka magpakasal ah kasi kawawa ka wala ka alam about law..
MJ didn't understand a single thing about this.. she should be thankful someone in the senate is doing their job. We have to make sure all ts are crossed and all Is are dotted in this law. Divorce can be easily abused and will have legal ramifications involving foreign ownerships and citizenships..among others. smh
Yes to Divorce lalo sa mga bansang ginagawang slaves and punchinh bags ang mga kababaihan. And Yes! I belong to a Christian religion. I have reservations sa mga turo nila.
Easy . Let people file divorce on their own. If it’s an uncontested one, they should have an office (office ni mayor) who can grant them final separation. If properties and child custody involved (contested) , then court hearing and lawyer should follow. This will allow the poor people afford it.
Tama naman si sen. Dami kasi nagsasabi na mahal annulment, tanong ko ay mura ba yung divorce na ma-afford ng common tao. As per sen, ayan hindi. E di revise to include them.
What i am more interested in is a polygamy bill :D :D :D Penoys love doing the kabitserye life so why not normalize it and make it legal? :) :) :) Then you don't have to divorce your significant other since you can sleep with anyone you like :) :) :)
Sa California, isa lang sa couple ang kailangan mag-file (petitioner), pero kailangan may proof of service ng divorce papers. Kahit ayaw ng respondent ay approved ang divorce within 6 months kahit walang lawyer. Ang matagal na divorce at kailangan ng lawyer ay pag may division of property, child custody at hindi magkasundo both parties.
Dahil nag-trending si Anne sa stand niya about Divorce bigla naman naglabas ng side niya si MJ. Kaso nga lang walang may pake sa opinyon ni MJ. Dami talagang papansin na lang na kunyari concerned talaga sa social issues. 😂
Ano ba tong comment ni mj? Tali-talinuhan. Hindi naman grounds ng divorce ang concern ni chiz. Yung accessibility at affordability for the poor. Kumbaga kelangan i-polish muna yung bill para hindi lang mayayaman or may pera yung mag benefit.
Paano naman naging affordable ang annulment, eh mas mahirap nga magpa-annul kasi may special dispensation pa atang kinukuha sa Vatican plus lawyers are also involved so magastos din yun di ba? Takot lang ba sila ma-excommunicate kapag bumoto sila in favor of divorce? Tsaka pansin ko with the exception of Villar, lahat na against ay mga lalaki. The patriarchy strikes again.
For me when u enter marriage b4 the eyes of God,u are ready to face challenges in life as a couple...What God has joined together let no man put assunder!!!in sickness n in health,in richer or in poorer till death do u part!!!love knows no boundaries!!!when u truly love a person n committed to her/him then u will n can work out all the differences u face them head on!!!
Eh 946 bakit meron annulment na endorsed by the church na super mahal - you have to pay the church that the church wink-wink calls donation, voluntary fee b4 they issue their endorsement.
Dito sko curious. I'm not anti divorce pero ang reasoning kasi ng majority is annulment is expensive. Eh ang magiging divorce ba accessible to regular Filipinos or mahal din?
Go MJ I really like u. You beautiful and pure and lot of substances
ReplyDeletei know of a lof of.
ReplyDeleteTakot na takot sila sa mga religious sect. TSK sayang boto sa ganyan
DeleteAnti poor o hindi ang impt me divorce na sa Pilipinas. Sobrang backward natin
DeleteLahat na lang ba kailangan i-asa sa PAO? Kung walang pera eh di maghanap ng lawyer na gustong mag pro bono. Yung pagkasal ba inasa sa gobyerno? Hindi naman diba so wag i-asa ang divorce sa gobyerno. Out of pocket dapat ang gastos diyan. Anyway I am pro-divorce at wag sana yung mga lame excuse na yan para di ituloy ang bill.
ReplyDeleteI agree..
DeletePaano kung walang laman ang pocket o lubog pa sa utang? Sorry na lang?
DeleteDapat may way din na pwede mag divorce ang couple na mag file on their own sa court. Sa US pwede yun. Pero pag may properties na usapin at custody, dun kakailanganin ng lawyer.
Delete2:43 kung sa US 300 dollars lang ang filing fee (depende sa state) at may mga lawyer 500 dollars package mura na yun. Mas mura pa dapat diyan kung gagawin ang divorce bill at dadami din trabaho ng mga lawyer kasi mas maraming makaka afford ng service na yan compared sa annulment na matagal at may certain grounds pa na kailangan patunayan.
DeleteMay kasalang bayan, na si mayor ang ninong... well yun lang po hehe
Deletesana they patern it sa iba na may consented divorce para may option not to go to court. Hindi naman mag papa divorce ang couple na masaya pa sa relasyon nila
DeleteAng point kasi ni senator Chiz kung sino may pera the court will favor that party and yun walang pera agrabyado na naman. Hindi dapat i rush if may loopholes kasi problema na naman yan kung defective yun batas. If may divorce it should be accessible to both mayaman and mahirap.
DeleteKung may kasalang bayan, maglagay ng divorce-ang bayan! Charot!
Delete7:10 if the court favors those who have more money then bayarang judge pala yung nasa court and not doing their job.
Delete11.49 what if di mo afford to hire a good lawyer do you get it dont expect the judge to have same rational as you, there are many aspects in divorce or any court case there are technicalities. Its not as simple as 2 ppl separating, there are issues on custody and money or assets too.
Delete12:45 eh di maghanap ng mag pro bono or mag loan at mag work ng may pangbayad. Ganon naman dito sa US. Di lahat sa tax payers money iaasa.
DeleteMy mother stuck with an abusive alcoholic man with a bad temper for years. Tiniis na lang alang alang sa mga anak. Our lives would have been much better kung nakulong na lang ang ama namin or naghiwalay sila. Mas payapa ang buhay.
ReplyDeletebakit kasi sila nag asawa, lasengo pala si tatay. dapat nag isip nanay mo bago nagpakasal sana.
Delete5;09 are you for real ?? Have some compassion for God's sake!!
DeleteMaybe the mother isn't aware of her husband's devilish acts prior to marriage? Did that ever occur to you?
eto nanaman po tayo sa victim blaming. paano kung along the way tska naging alcoholic tatay nila? anong mentalidad meron ka? @5:09 pm
DeleteYou never truly know a person until you live with them. Lalo na sa pinas, best foot forward pag ligawan slash jowa stages pa lang.
DeleteAnd let's face it, nakakabobo ang love.
Bawal magkamali teh?
5:09 most likely dahil hindi sila live in before and some people magaling magtago ng totoong ugali bago magpakasal
Delete5:09 Tell that to the millions of women na after marriage na nalaman ang totoong ugali ng napangasawa nila. I've had friends and family na bongga ang kasal tapos less than a year of marriage nabalitaan mo na lang na hiwalay na.
Delete5:09 hindi ka siguro nagkakamali kaya never mo kinailangan ng eraser or divorce. palakpakan
Deleteyun mga yung point mga neng, kilalanin mabuti yung aasawahin bago magpakasal. wag basta basta magpakasal kesyo gusto ng magulang or societal pressure. ganun. wag yung go lang ng go, may easy way out naman mentalidad.
DeleteIbang klase din si 5:09. Sana kung lahat nalalaman ang mga ugali ng mga napapangasawa bago pa ikasal o magsama, edi sana wlang relasyon na panget. Kung lahat pwde mo munang iscreen. Kaht nga kaibigan o kamaganak malalaman mo lang ang tunay na ugali pag nagkasama na kayo sa iisang bubong.
Deleteako lang ba? pero parang laging walang sense tong si MJ.. wala din syang credibility na talaga for me based on her track record ng pakikisawsaw sa mga issues..
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DeleteParang nag copy paste or chatgpt lang itong si ateng wlang sense pinagsasasabi
Deleteplus the fact na hindi nya naintindihan yung statement ni chiz speaks volume kung bakit di na dapat pinapansin tong babaeng sawsawera nato. LOL
Deletekunyare ka level nya yung mga miss U na nag UP law ❤
Deleteyeah
DeleteHahahha +1 sa copy paste 😂
DeleteNagbasa ba kayo ng buong article or nag-base lang kayo sa title? Chiz and another senator are opposing the bill kasi covered na daw yung grounds ng divorce sa annulment. Kaya sya nag enumerate dyan ng grounds na sa annulment. Bakit ang bilis nyong mangbash kay MJ?
Deletehuwag na lang magpakasal. parang wala na rin kwenta. ano pa silbi. laro-laro na lang.
ReplyDelete1:29 just because you can opt out, wala nang kwenta? Nonsense. For me mas meaningful nga yung marriage if there's a mutual commitment, hindi yung abusive o pilitan.
DeletePero pag live-in dami naman judgmental. Jusko mga Pilipino nag hirap kabonding.
DeletePinagsasabe ni girl? Sinasabi lang ni Chiz na dapat ilagay sa batas na pwede mag handle ang PAO lawyers ng case, para makapag divorce din ang mahihirap
ReplyDeletetroots! mababa talaga comprehension ni ante mj. 😅
DeleteHahahahahaah kala na nya ang smart nya sa lagay na yan. Na parang kinopya lang naman
DeleteTreew! saka haller lawyer c chiz alam nya yang grounnds ng legal sep.. and kht d xa lawyer xempre nabasa nya ung bill..kaloka c mj! iba cnsbi ni chiz, low comprehension!
DeleteSame di ko rin gets hanash ni MJ anong konek sa statement ni Sen Chiz is parang mayaman lang magbebenefit sa existing provisions ng divorce kaya gusto nya maging accessible din para sa mahihirap via PAO
ReplyDeleteoh, abogada na ba ngayon si mj?
ReplyDeleteWala nga sense at konek ang sinabi nya e
Delete3:45 sarcasm yun comment ni 2:29
DeleteHindi naman kailangan ng lawyer sa divorce kung agree kayo pareho. Karamihan ng mahirap ay walang properties na paghahatian at pag-aawayan.
ReplyDeleteTama. Filing fee lang ang dapat gastusin kung agree ang both parties.
Delete2:31 You think an abuser will agree to a divorce? What about yung custody ng mga anak? Hindi lang naman pera ang pinagtatalunan pag divorce.
DeleteKaya lang ayaw sa divorce yung iba dito kasi takot maghatian sa properties. Kung poor ka, mas madali ang divorce coz walang pag aari ang pag hahatian. Move on na agad...
Deletefalse. kaya nga may mga lawyers na nagsspecialize sa divorce dahil sa legal ramifications ng dissolution ng marriage. properties, finances, child custody, prenup conditions etc. chiz was basically saying that PAO should also be allowed to handle divorce cases para dun sa mga walang budget.
Deleteay sana ol. yung tipong parang hatian sa mana na di na kailangan e daan sa korte pag nag agree ang mga partidos. extrajudicial settlement kumbaga.
DeleteLalo na kung may pre-nup, agree ang both parties sa hatian, madali na dapat ang divorce without going to a lawyer.
DeleteSa US ganyan lalo na pag walang anak at nagrerent lang. You can get divorced in a few hours by going to court yourselves and get the final paperworks in less than a month.
Deletedapat ang pinapayagan lang mag file ng divorce yung 10 yrs pataas na physically separated na para tlgang hiwalay na para for legality na lang ang hinihintay. meaning wala na tlgang pag asang mag balikan. in my opinion lang naman ito.
ReplyDeleteMeron iba hindi reach ng 10 years dahil pinatay na (girl in the drum remember) or nag suicide na (mt Carlson remember?) siguro a couple of months na not living together sufficient basis.
DeleteNot all divorce need lawyers, I'm sure there is a country with well established divorce laws we can copy. Normally need lang ng lawyer pag may pinag aawayan na property or contesting support.
ReplyDeleteKaya nga diba sinabi ni Chiz na the current divorce bill is only accessible to mayaman kasi need maglawyer-up.
DeleteI am pro-divorce myself but this needs to be accessible to all or else yung mas nangagailangan like abused spouses w no money can fight fairly. Baka ang bagsak niyan sa mayamang spouse mapunta lahat ng favor kasi sya lang can afford a lawyer.
Congress naman can mandate the fees associated to be affordable para dun sa gumagamit ng cabinet level outreach agencies, medj overreach but when did that stop them.
DeleteI'm not sure sa comment ko pero parang better pa na wag na lang magpakasal...para protected kayo pareho ng partner mo..
ReplyDeleteGo MJ! Yung mga ayaw kang magsalita siguro shallow at walang mga opinion sa mga bagay bagay. Go lang, share your thoughts. If they don't like it, they are welcome to unfollow or block lol
ReplyDeleteAyyy isa ka palg di naka gets sa sinabi ni chiz? Hahahahaha.
DeleteHello? Naintinidhan mo ba yung sinabi ni chiz? Oh well, mukhang si mj naintindihan mo. Pareho kayo ni mj na sablay.
DeleteContext mga sis! Binasa nyo ba ang buong article at hindi lang ang title? Dalawang senators ang nagbigay ng opinion dun, si Chiz and Joel Villanueva. They are opposing the bill and also questioning why pinalawak ang grounds for divorce, na according to them ay already covered na daw ng annulment. So MJ is just enumerating the grounds for divorce, masama ba yun??
Delete2:31 hala okay ka lang????? Pagnonotirized nga ng documents need ng lawyer..yan pa kaya. And sa divorce may legal negotiations yan lalo pag mayaman ang involve. Wag ka magpakasal ah kasi kawawa ka wala ka alam about law..
ReplyDeleteHe should know, pinagdaanan mo kay Sen. Hindi lahat like you. Let it be easier for everyone.
ReplyDeleteMJ didn't understand a single thing about this.. she should be thankful someone in the senate is doing their job. We have to make sure all ts are crossed and all Is are dotted in this law. Divorce can be easily abused and will have legal ramifications involving foreign ownerships and citizenships..among others. smh
ReplyDeleteYung mga nag no na yan eh alams na. Takot na walang makuhang support from religious sect. Mga walang backbone.
ReplyDeleteYes to Divorce lalo sa mga bansang ginagawang slaves and punchinh bags ang mga kababaihan. And Yes! I belong to a Christian religion. I have reservations sa mga turo nila.
ReplyDeleteEasy . Let people file divorce on their own. If it’s an uncontested one, they should have an office (office ni mayor) who can grant them final separation. If properties and child custody involved (contested) , then court hearing and lawyer should follow. This will allow the poor people afford it.
ReplyDeleteTama naman si sen. Dami kasi nagsasabi na mahal annulment, tanong ko ay mura ba yung divorce na ma-afford ng common tao. As per sen, ayan hindi. E di revise to include them.
ReplyDeleteAnlayo naman ng sagot ni MJ sa concern ni sen chiz. Kumbaga sa pageant, ang sagot nya ay “world peace”.
ReplyDeleteWhat i am more interested in is a polygamy bill :D :D :D Penoys love doing the kabitserye life so why not normalize it and make it legal? :) :) :) Then you don't have to divorce your significant other since you can sleep with anyone you like :) :) :)
ReplyDeleteSa California, isa lang sa couple ang kailangan mag-file (petitioner), pero kailangan may proof of service ng divorce papers. Kahit ayaw ng respondent ay approved ang divorce within 6 months kahit walang lawyer. Ang matagal na divorce at kailangan ng lawyer ay pag may division of property, child custody at hindi magkasundo both parties.
ReplyDeleteDahil nag-trending si Anne sa stand niya about Divorce bigla naman naglabas ng side niya si MJ. Kaso nga lang walang may pake sa opinyon ni MJ. Dami talagang papansin na lang na kunyari concerned talaga sa social issues. 😂
ReplyDeleteHoy MJ sabi Ni Sen. Hinsi sua affordable sa mahihirap.kung ani ano na kinopy paste mo.
ReplyDeleteAno ba tong comment ni mj? Tali-talinuhan. Hindi naman grounds ng divorce ang concern ni chiz. Yung accessibility at affordability for the poor. Kumbaga kelangan i-polish muna yung bill para hindi lang mayayaman or may pera yung mag benefit.
ReplyDeleteWala naman sinabi si sen chiz regarding sa clauses. He just said it is not affordable.
ReplyDeletePaano naman naging affordable ang annulment, eh mas mahirap nga magpa-annul kasi may special dispensation pa atang kinukuha sa Vatican plus lawyers are also involved so magastos din yun di ba? Takot lang ba sila ma-excommunicate kapag bumoto sila in favor of divorce? Tsaka pansin ko with the exception of Villar, lahat na against ay mga lalaki. The patriarchy strikes again.
ReplyDeleteFor me when u enter marriage b4 the eyes of God,u are ready to face challenges in life as a couple...What God has joined together let no man put assunder!!!in sickness n in health,in richer or in poorer till death do u part!!!love knows no boundaries!!!when u truly love a person n committed to her/him then u will n can work out all the differences u face them head on!!!
ReplyDeletemag antay ka na mabugbug ka muna then for sure pro divotce ka na hahaha
DeleteEh 946 bakit meron annulment na endorsed by the church na super mahal - you have to pay the church that the church wink-wink calls donation, voluntary fee b4 they issue their endorsement.
DeleteDito sko curious. I'm not anti divorce pero ang reasoning kasi ng majority is annulment is expensive. Eh ang magiging divorce ba accessible to regular Filipinos or mahal din?
ReplyDeleteSen. Chiz: then make it affordable & easy. It doesn't have to be complicated & expensive. Make it as easy as getting married. Pwede naman eh.
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