Ang annulment kung tutuusin mas pinaglaruan ang sanctity ng marriage dahil ang annulment eh pinapawalang bisa ang kasal, that the marriage was null and void at walang kasalang naganap kaya ito ay hindi nagexist - even with the church ceremony and reception and all the works.
Yes to divorce. Wag na pilitin ang dalawang mag asawang wala nang pag-ibig sa isa’t isa, na humahantong sa isa or parehas na nagkakaroon ng extramarital relationships dahil doon nila nakukuha ang happiness sa bagong partner nila. Hindi ba yan ang usual scenario sa mga mag asawa na kalaunan eh naghihiwalay ng informal at nagkakaroon ng bagong karelasyon? Hindi ba at mas nabab@b0y ang sanctity ng marriage sa ganyang scenario?
Wag nang pilitin ang mag asawa na magsama sa iisang bubong at nagiging mala-impierno lang sa loob ng tahanan nila. Dahil sila ay hindi na magkasundo pa and worst of all may mga batang naiipit sa unhealthy home situation.
On point! If u don’t want it then don’t avail of it. Sa may need nito let them have it and set them free. If Hindi kayu maka relate bcoz u’re blessed with a happy marriage then just be thankful. But be considerate sa mga may need nito.
Bakit annulment pwede eh pinayagan din naman maghiwalay ang mag asawa, kalokoha yung walang kasal na naganap or exist. So for me dapat pwede na din ang divorce.
I agree with her. Marami kasi ang hindi nakaka-intindi sa Divorce law. Akala nila pag may divorce law sa Pilipinas, e mandatory na dapat mag-divorce ang mag-asawa. hahaha - Choice lang po ito para sa mga mag-asawang trapped sa isang abusive and unhappy marriage. kung masaya kayo, nagmamahalan at happy, di nyo kailangan mag-divorce. our senators and congressmen na nag-"no" sa divorce - reason nila? because they are happily married. Like Richard Gomez and Sen. Cynthia Villar. happily married daw sila kaya ni-reject nila ang Divorce law. mga educated people yan, mga mambabatas...pero mukhang hindi nila naiintindihan ang batas. hindi para sa kanila ang divorce law. yung mga ayaw sa Divorce, mas pinipili nila na mangabit o mag-cheat na lang kesa mag-hiwalay or magpapaka-martir na kahit bugbog-sarado na sila araw araw pati mga anak nila, ok lang, kasi di raw dapat paghiwalayin ang mag-asawa sabi ng bibliya or mas pinipili nila na abandonahin na lang ang pamilya. kawawa ang maiiwang need itaguyod ang mga anak nang walang tulong galing sa asawang nambubugbog or sumakabilang bahay. sa Divorce law di pwede yan... ang korte ang magdedecide kung magkano ang sustentong kailangan ibigay sa mga naiwan.
Ayaw ko ng Divorce, for me and my husband syempre pero bakit natin ipagkakait sa iba na kailangan at gusto. Hindi lahat tayo swerte sa marriage natin huwag natin ipagkait sa iba ang masayang married life na meron tayo. As for the values na nawawala daw kapag may Divorce na, bakit ano bang values ang meron tayo ngayon? ilang married couples ba ang may mga side partners dahil di na sila masaya sa asawa nila? ilang separated couples ba ang meron ng kanya kanyang partner at anak kahit legally married pa sila.
Actually yung Annulment dito sa atin, paramg pinahirap na Divorce na lang din naman. Ano un sinasabi nila na Annulment kasi ipinapa-declare na walang bisa ang kasal for some reason? eh bakit for the rich and privileged lang siya hindi kaya ng common tao ang mga gastos at talaga ng proseso. Pero ang bottomline, pinapawalang bisa na din ang kasal para makapag pakasal ulit. Hay naku
Takot din sila na mai-divorce. Imagine i-divorce sila ng asawa nila due to extra marital affairs or for other reasons? That means mape pwersa sila to split their assets / pay alimony
NO to divorce! Wag magpakasal! It's that simple! At pag nagpakasal panindigan at pagdusahan dahil sinumpaan nyo yan. Kung hindi na talaga kaya, makipaghiwalay nang hindi nagdidivorce that way walang chance magkaron uli ng biktima yung abuser. Period!
Ang labo ng logic mo. So paano yung biktima? Magdusa din na d lumigaya? E akala ko ba nagbibigay ng second chance yung Diyos mo, e bakit ikaw na tao ipagkakait mo sa ibang tao. E d wow! Bigyan ng jacket!
ang jurassic ng mentality. no daw sa Divorce pero "makipaghiwalay nang hindi nagdidivorce"... HUH?!
currently, sa PH the only out of a married person from his/her marital obligation is through annulment and dyou have any idea how awfully expensive and lengthy the process of annulment is? paano na lang yung mga nakatali sa physically abusive relationship na walang money to burn for such proceeding? for sure if maimplement man ang divorce sa Pinas, there will be alterations and tailored to cater to the Filipinos. sa US, all states recognize “no-fault” divorces. this means there doesn’t need to be a specific incident or circumstance that caused the marriage to end. instead, couples can cite “irreconcilable differences” as the reason the marriage didn’t work out.
ALSO, divorce often comes with stricter rules and regulations regarding the dissolution of the relationship, especially if children are involved. usually, the parents must agree on a custody arrangement ahead of time, or a judge will decide what’s best for the children and determine custody during divorce proceedings.
1:17 kung di mo talaga maintindihan, ganito na lang - meron na rin naman annulment. Mas bibigyan lang ng security, rights, and protection yung mga tao pag may divorce. Tapos yung inabuse, may chance siya at a new life pinagsasasabi mo na hindi na mang-aabuse yung partner? Walang makakapigil sa mga yan kung ganyan talaga sila.
Ang laking tulong ng divorce sa mga babaeng niwawang hiya ng kanilang asawa. No! Pagtitiisan ang batugan at nanggugulpi??? Ano kaibahan ng mghiwalay ng walang divorce at mghiwalay ng meron sa mata ng Diyos???? Mali yata pgkaintindi mo ante kung totoong sinusunod mo ang Diyos! Kalokohan!
Akala mo ba wala nang chance mang biktima ang abuser kung hiniwalayan mo ng walang divorce??? KALOKOHAN! Tingin ko hindi tunay na naiintindihan ang divorce. Please mg inform ka po bago sumatsat wala naman palang alam.
Grabe ka 1.17 - wag selfish. If you don't want divorce, just don't get it. But let us, who wants divorce, have it. We need it. We are the only country na walang divorce. And let's face the fact na may mga tao na abused sa marriage. Ako for example, I was abused by my husband, physically and emotionally. Matagal na kami naghiwalay, may pamilya na sya na iba while I am still in trauma. I want to change my name back to my maiden, i want to buy properties for me and my kids but I can't because I am legally tied to him. So are you saying I have to just let it be? And this situation is very normal in the Philippines. There are lots of abuses kasi walang divorce. Kasi forced and tao na mag stay or forced na legally bind. Let's all move on going forward and not back.
patawa tong si 117. so paano na lang yung mga babae/lalaki na biktima ng domestic violence? hindi nga sila naghiwalay, kaliwa't kanan naman ang kabet.. adultery/ concubinage ang gusto mong mangyari eh di bin@boy nyo lang din ang "sanctity" kuno ng kasal.
Omg anong utak ang meron ka??? Kung binubugbog ka ng asawa mo at ayaw mong makipaghiwalay, eh di ikaw lang magdusa. Bakit mo kelangan i-impose sa lahat ang pagohing makitid ng utak mo
1:17 This one... sounds like someone na takot mahiwalayan ng asawa, hahaha!
4:32 abusive partners can be reported and rot in jail and I won't care really. But the victim partners have a chance to move on legally. Why should they be stuck with the a$$#at and be miserable all their lives?!
sinong magsabing walang option? di bala merong legal separation at annulment of marriage. pero pahirapan kamo, op kors kasi di dapat binabasta basta ang pag aasawa at paghihiwalay. yun yung point dun.
5:02 Kaplastikan yan. Kung ganyan ang pananaw, mas ine-encourage nyo na mag-live in na lang yung mga tao kesa magpakasal. Tingin mo mas ok yun?
To the religious, better ba to live in sin kesa magpakasal, magkamali, at mag-move on?
Sa mga nakatira sa ulap, kamusta naman ang mga live-in partner na bastardo ang anak(ergo minimal inheritance), walang shared medical benefits at walang say sa medical decisions?
Personally I have nothing against living in together, I did it with my now husband. We met & live o/s & it's not a big deal here, nearly everyone I know did it leading up to marriage.
However despite living together I know a few people who still split after marrying. Kaya natatawa ako sa mga tao na nagsasabi na "di mo kasi kinilala ng mabuti eh". Guys kahit yung mga nag live in before marriage naghihiwalay din. Minsan hindi talaga kaya. One couple I'm thinking of, the guy abandoned her when their baby was a few months old! Totally unexpected, gulat kami lahat!!! Something like 7 years together with 4 years mag live in! Di magaapply yung mga statememt na "di mo kasi pinagisipan" or "di ka kasi sure"!
She has primary custody & has a partner who is a great stepdad to their kid. The kid now has a great role model and a stable home life. The no to divorce people here would insist that she and the child were better off remaining legally bound in a loveless marriage with a deadbeat dad. Di ko talaga gets.
Madaming nag-live in and yet nag-iba ang ugali after a major change, like having kids. Or joblessness.
And right now, there is no legal cohabitation status, so pag nasa life and death situation ang live in partner sa hospital, hindi pwedeng mag-decide ang kinakasama. Ni hindi pwedeng mag-stay sa bedside kung ganung ka-atribida ang magulang. Illegitimate children from live in status can only inherit half of what a legitimate child can. Hindi rin pwede mag-share ng insurance and medical benefits.
The law better work both ways. Marriage BY LAW is but another legal contract. There should be a way to dissolve it properly.
yung ang point mga neng. ginagawa nyo kasing easy peasy mga bagay bagay. gustong mag asawa, gorah. ay ayoko na pala, gora. we don't wanna live in a society like that kaya ayaw namin sa divorce. saka may legal separation at annulment naman, di bala?
Binigyan tayo ng kalayaan ng Panginoon sa kung anong gusto nating gawin sa buhay. Tayo ay temporary lang sa mundong ito. Lilipas lang ang lahat at haharap sa Diyos pagdating ng panahon. Magandang mamuhay sa mundo na sumusunod sa kalooban ng Diyos para tayo'y kalulugdan Niya. Isipin mo muna ang damdamin ng Diyos bago ang damdamin mo. Pag ang sariling kalooban mo ang sinusunod mo hindi ka papunta sa Diyos papalayo ka.
kaya nga NO TO DIVORCE para walang option yung mga nag aasawa ng di pinag iisipan, pa clout lang. kasi nag asawa na si beshie, mag asawa na din ako kasi napag iwanan na ako. yung lasal dapat sa mga sure na.
5:04 napakababaw naman ng reason na binibigay mo. There are a lot of marriages that revealed the true color of their spouse na hindi pinakita nung hindi pa sila kasal. Naghihiwalay kahit magasawa, thats an undeniable fact. Bakit hindi natin gawing maayos? Yes to divorce!
5:04 pm okay ka ba? hindi fixed ang mind ng mga tao , nagbabago ang kaisipan, nagbabago lahat ... Sana ganun na lang ung sure na sure yung walang magbabago simula't sapul edi sana hindi nagdadalawang isip magpakasal edi sana walang naghihiwalay. Anong utak meron ka ba ?
5:04 Eh paano yung mga abused? Idadamay mo sila dyan sa gusto mo para lang pigilan na maghiwalay ang mga clout chasers kuno? Hindi ka na nga nag-iisip, selfish ka pa.
ay 10:55 dapat pag nagpapakasal fixed na yung mind. di puedi yung eto muna si A yung pakakasalan ko kasi di pa available si B. pad di omobra kay B, hahanap ako ng C at D. ay ang gara ng pag iisip ng mga tao ngayon.
Hindi naman ako dehado. Nasa pinili nyong maging asawa yan at nasa iyo bilang asawa. So kung hindi kayo sigurado sa magiging asawa nyo at magiging relasyon nyo wag kayo magpakasal.
May mga taong lumalabas ang kahayupan pag nagsasama na kayo sa iisang bubong. Yung ex husband ko sinasaktan ako. Sa tiyan at hita ako sinusuntok para di kita ang pasa. Ayun 15 years na kaming hiwalay dala ko pa din apelyodo nya. Di nagsusustento kahot college na anak namin. Ako pa gagastos sa annulment?
4:44 wala kaming pake sa feeling fairy tale life mo.
Ang pake ko eh yung mga stuck sa abusive and loveless marriages. Mga nagkamali dala ng kabataaan. Mga pinilit magpakasal ng magulang. They have to be freed.
Yung mga nababasa ko sa FB kung maka NO sa divorce kala mo naman magkaka mass divorce sa mga mag asawa pag napatupad ang batas. Maghihiwalay daw ang mga mag asawa pag nagka divorce. Juskelerd!
Yes na yes to divorce and yes na yes to gay rights. It is about time Pilipinas! How can we have no divorce while China and the rhe Middle East has? Nagpapauto kasi kayo sa simbahan. Sila nga galing sa UK, USA Italy eh wala silang nasabi doon kung saan galing ang Katolicismo, at may divorce naman ah tapos dito bawal? Ano yan?????
Kapag po naisabatas ang Divorce Bill ay HINDI PO required na maghiwalay ang mga mag-asawang maayos naman ang pagsasama. Bakit ang hirap ipasok nito sa kokote ng mga against sa divorce bill? Ang siste pala eh, kapag nagkaron ng physical/mental/emotional abuse sa relasyon ng mag asawa eh habangbuhay na tiisin at pag dusahan dahil yun ang gusto ni Lord, na walang maghihiwalay na mag asawa.
wag magpakasal kung di sure physical mental at emotional status ng partner mo. ganun dapat. di yung basta basta nalang pakasal, kasi may divorce naman. easy peasy.
Ok lang daw na bugbugin ng asawa araw araw o mambabae ng lantaran. Malaking kasalanan sa Diyos pag nakipag divorce kaya mag dusa ka na lang daw. Ginusto mo yang asawa mo eh. Walang iwanan hanggang kamatayan. EME!
5:06 You do realize na lumalabas ang tunay na ugali o nag iiba ang ugali pag kasal na? People change. Habang dumadami ang responsibilidad ng isang tao nag iiba rin ang ugali nyan. Yung iba apakasweet pag bf gf pa lang pero pag asawa na nag iiba na trato. O anong masasabi mo?
5.59pm isa lang masasabi ko, kilalanin mabuti amg partner bago magpakasal. saka may legal separation at annulment. anong no option out mga pinagsasabi ninyo.
Ito mga possible reasons nung mga NO to divorce. One, takot sila na bigla sila idivorce ng asawa nila. Hindi sila secured. Two, akala nila kapag nagkaron ng divorce, lahat magiging required magdivorce. kahit yung masasaya marriage. LOL Jan mo makikita yung poor educational system ang daming obob e. Three, swerte sila kasi di nagbago asawa nila. kaya wala silang empathy. (i hope maranasan ng lahat ng nag NO na magcheat, maging abusive partners nila, para maintindihan nila).
Amen to that! I'm happily married pero my heart goes out to all people trapped in abusive marriages. I have heard of countless horror stories from both families and friends na until now is suffering and nagtitiis sa relationship nila. Nahihirapan mag totally move on dahil walang divorce.
THIS! I am also happily married. Pero hindi ibig sabihin ganun din ang sitwasyon ng iba. Can you imagine telling a woman in a miserable relationship to suck it up and suffer. People deserve a second chance. People deserve to be happy! Yes to Divorce!
Akala kase nila divorce is that easy. Di lang basta basta hiwalay tapos tapos na. May kasama pang spouse support and child support yan depende sino ang mas may pera sa inyo mag asawa. Pag ang lady boss napangasawa ng palamunin na lalake, possible na makakuha ng spouse support ang lalake esp pag magaling lawyer nya. Tapos tatalak nnaman kayo pag ganun eksena. Pero kung keri lang sanyo, sure why not. Dapat ang hingin nyo na law na ipasa jan ay child support. Mga bata kase kawawa pag may parents na naghihiwalay.
divorce na lang daw kasi, wag na yang child support law whatever na yan. mas concern ng mga dehadong partner sa kasal ang alimony, palimony or whatever --mony na yan. basta sounds like money, gora divorce.
Curious lang po sa mga against sa divorce bill? Bakit kayo against sa divorce? Ipaintindi niyo samin kung bakit hindi pwede magkadivorce sa Pilipinas. Is it purely because of religious reasons?
No to divorce. Ang pag papakasal pinagiisipan ng madaming beses. Isang maliit na red flag wag palagpasin. Getting married will be an easier decision now knowing na may divorce naman. Yung mga nasa sitwasyon na naghiwalay or nagkamali ng decision ang di tututol dito. Marriage is not a trial and error. Bago ka magpakasal, ipagdasal mo at kilatisin mong maige. Mas Kawawa mga babae dito. Mas madali na ngayon magloko o magpabaya sa relasyon ang lalaki pag nagka divorce.
Easier said than done. Lumalabas ang tunay na kulay at ugali ng partner pag kasal na kayo. Napaka idealist ng ganitong thinking. Kailangan niyong masampal sa realidad ng buhay.
2:39 Mas matatakot nga lalaki magloko kasi pwede siyang i-divorce ng asawa niya pag nagkataon and it goes both ways. Mas pipiliin ko na lang i-divorce ako kesa pagtaksilan ako while married and be stuck in a loveless marriage.
2:39 sure ka? Di ba mas kawawa yung mga inabuso and pinagtaksilan pero walang stuck sila. Di mo alam na yung iba lumalabas lang totoong kulay pag kasal na? Saang fairytale ka galing?
2:39 people cheat whether or not there is divorce. And they cheat more without divorce because they think wala naman choice yung mga asawa nila but to stick with them. But with divorce, people with have a choice to walk away pag niloko at sinaktan sila ng partner.
If you feel na "[m]as madali na ngayon magloko o magpabaya sa relasyon ang lalaki pag nagka divorce", then by the same logic pag ginawa sa yo yan ng asawa mo ay dahil hindi mo lang kasi "pinagiisipan ng madaming beses" ang pagpapakasal. Gulo gulo mo sist
As someone who does not believe in marriage, i support divorce bill. Ako nga na d naniniwala sa kasal, d ko kayo binabawalan magpakasal e, bakit yung mga naniniwala sa divorce ayaw nyo pagbigyan. Live and let live. Bakit kayo nagwo-worry para sa soul ng ibang tao, kung sarili nyo nga d nyo ma-guarantuee na d kayo mapupunta sa impyerno. I say YES to divorce
i love my husband, i love my children but i open for having divorce in the philippines. yes, there are a lot of unhealthy marriages that cant move on due to absence of this.mas maiintindihan ni Lord ito rather than committing continues crimes like adultery or abuse by staying in such kind of marriages just so because there's no way out
I am a very happily married woman for 20 years now and there is a divorce where I live . I am pro divorce for my friends who ate there in the Phils who are living in misery. What kind of mindset do you have 3:45 ??? I am a silent reader here and shame on you for saying the pro divorce are bullies.
4:51 Can’t you read the comments of the pro-divorce people here? Parang dapat sila lang ang pakinggan and they are not respecting the opinions of those who are against it. The fact you are saying “shame on you” to 3:45 makes you a bully as well.
9:32, what 4:51 is saying here I guess is just because pro divorce , 3:45 is assuming na mga hiniwalayan ng mga asawa ang mga pro divorce ? Kaya shame on you rin! You are the bully na mga anti divorce .
YES to divorce. Panahon na! We are one of the World's most corrupt country! And people keep voting them and tolerating them and even supporting plunderes and killers! Wag kayong pa-holy na kesyo Catholic eme ang Pilipinas. Tandaan niyo, nagkaroon tayo ng presidente na may MGA kabit at anak sa iba't-ibang babae while married.
serious question din sa mga pro-divorce, ano pong mapapala at pakialam nyo if ayaw sa divorce yung ibang tao sa paligid nyo? seryoso lang din. may kanya kanya tayong opinion. majority wins.
5:00 Mas less ang mga mentally broken and traumatized people na makakasalamuha mo sa araw araw. Yon ang mapapala namin. Alam mo ba na yung mga batang lumaki na may abuse sa bahay, ang lala ng trauma na dala nyan? Malaki epekto sa development ng tao ang nakikita nila sa bahay habang lumalaki sila.
Ang mapapako is protecting the integrity of marriage and family. While i feel sorry to those who are trapped in unhappy or abusive relp, this become an option to the many who easily gives up, those who dont think of their decisions before getting into one. and then, they have kids. who will eventually be affected. because they have parents who did not try or did not think enough before getting married.
5:00 pm , wow ah, kasali ka ba sa relasyon ng iba para ipag pilitan mo ang kasal na di na gumagana. Kayong mga anti-divorce crowd, bawas bawasan nyo ang pakikielam sa relasyon ng iba lalo wala kayong ambag kung ano ang nangyayari sa buhay ng iba
5:00 if you’re pro-divorce you are giving people a choice, if you’re against then you are taking away their choice. Your life doesn’t change but other people’s lives can change for the better if divorce was an option.
same sa mga product ng broken marriages. kaya ang solusyon pag isipan mabuti bago magpakasal. kilalanin mabuti mga partner nyo bago pumirma sa harap ni father, pastor, mayor or ni judge.
5:00 Sino ka para sabihin sakin na pag binubugbog ako ng asawa ko eh tiisin ko nalang at wala naman akong magagawa na hanggang mamatay ako dala ko apelyido niya at lahat ng naipon ko sa kanya mapupunta?
Yes to divorce. For all those people who are anti-divorce, all I can say is I envy your naivete na "di nyo kasi pinansin ang red flags" at "di nyo kasi pinagdasal" o "bilis nyo kasi magsuko". Guys ang sheltered nyo hahaha kung sa tingin nyo na sobrang babaw ang mga dahilan kung bakit naghihiwalay ang mga tao. Like yes, maybe some people get divorced for shallow reasons but believe it or not for the people I know who got divorced it wa a long and agonising decision.
I live overseas now and super big deal ang Domestic Violence dito, the government is really trying its best to keep people safe and AWAY from domestic partners who are abusive, yet sa Pilipinas the message is "ay, sorry pinakasalan mo, you're tied to that person forever, work through it nalang!"
And the argument of "well at least kung walang divorce, iwanan mo nalang pero married pa din kayo so the abuser can't abuse anyone else" - WRONG! The abuser can definitely get another bf/gf and abuse them, the only thing this now the abused person can't move on with their life and find love again.
Believe it or not, some problems only emerge years after a marriage, so is that person doomed to be with an abusive partner forever na vinivictim blame pa na "kasalanan mo kasi eh, di mo talaga pinag-isipan nung nagpakasal kayo."
Some examples of people I know who divorced:
- Guy became schizophrenic a few years after marriage. He physically attacked his then-wife and is now committed to a mental institution.
- Guy was confused about his sexuality and felt pressured to marry.
- Guy cheated on his wife multiple times. Question lang, if you have a friend and her boyfriend cheats on her and she's absolutely miserable, do you tell her "stick it out", pero parang as soon as they're married and she's miserable and the guy cheats, you'll say "ah nagpakasal kayo eh, work it out nalang!" even if the guy had ZERO indications of cheating previously?
- I have a tita who didn't get divorced, but she was abandoned by her husband and left to raise 3 small kids by herself. So people who say no to divorce think that people like her don't deserve to get into a loving married relationship ever? (Oh my cousins are grown up na, their sperm donor is still a deadbeat.)
So to the people who say NO to divorce, all I say is I envy you that you think these kinds of things can just be solved by "ah basta you shouldn't give up on your spouse, you made a promise so work through it nalang."
For the record I'm happily married, never divorced, and all I can say is I hope everyone on this earth has their chance of finding their own happiness!!!
Im happily married and also a catholic but I strongly support the divorce bill. People should be given the chance to make their own choices people should be allowed to have the chance to be free from a toxic relationship, heal and be happy. Walang normal na tao na nagpapakasal na ang end goal is makipaghiwalay lahat gusto ng happily ever after so they try pero minsan hindi talaga kaya also hindi ito cinderella fairytale this is real life.
No to Divorce! Simula nang magkababy ako. Mas iniisip ko na yung mararamdaman ng anak ko kaysa sa sarili ko. Yung mga bata ang magsusuffer kung matutuloy yan. Maawa kayo sa mga bata!
Yikes. A family friend of ours split up from her husband. Naging drug addict kasi sya. Buti nalang may kaya at na-annul (but after a looooong time).
Her son would tell his mom that he would be protecting her and his little sister when the dad would have one of his episodes. Nakakaawa na at that age, yun yung pinagkaaabalahan nya, to protect his mom and sister.
What about if a parent is abusive? Mas nakakaawa to keep an abuser around children! Even if hindi ang kid ang inaabuse, nakakatrauma kaya na makita na inaabuse ang magulang mo! And what are you teaching the child? That it's OK to hit other people when you're angry? Or that you shouldn't stand up for yourself and just take it when you are being abused?
Staying together is not always what's best for kids!
Kawawa naman mga bata seeing their parents trapped in a loveless marriage, worse still if may kabit na involved or domestic violence. Imagine them witnessibg those things in their household, tapos dala dala nila hanggang paglaki. Tsk tsk!
Hey. I am a product of broken family. My dad left my mom for another woman; they are living as a family, up to this time.
My mom had to raise me and my two brothers by herself. Yung dad ko nag bigay lang ng support kung kelan nya (or ng babae nya) gusto. Pero right now more than 15 years na kaming walang support. Pero okay lang. Nakaya naman namin, thanks to my mom who stayed strong kasi wala naman sya ibang choice kung hindi magpaka-strong eh. Sometimes naiisip namin ng mga kapatid ko, sana may divorce para hindi na nahihirapan si mommy at malaya sya magpakasal sa lalaking nagtrato sa kanya ng tama.
Kaso wala eh, hanggang ganon lang sila ng mom ko.
We witnessed the emotional and even physical and spiritual toll that this set up had on my mom. Kung magiging malaya sya completely from the dead marriage I think she can start fresh and it’s never too late then.
I am a divorce believer eversince. When my dad passed away, his body was taken away from us from the province to Manila, by his first family. My parents were together for almost 31 years versus the less than 10 years with the original family. Before he died, we knew that he wanted to be buried where we lived, but then, his last wish has no strength. His first family and our family have no rift at all. They knew we existed as they were way older than us. In our minds, since we have a good relationship and we thought that they fully accepted us, stories like this in death will never happen, but it did.It was very painful esp to my Mom but she never complained. We knew, as we have seen and heard, second families having no say , when it comes to death. In the end, our visits to our dad became less and less as traveling to Manila was challenging and longer due to traffic grid and my Mom's old age. My dad has a tombstone beside my mom's now after she passed away, too. My dad's body wasn't there but they're finally together in spirit after being separated for 34 years by circumstances, like the absence of divorce. Their relationship was considered illegal and my mom a mistress for so long, regardless of the kind of life and love they had and lived. The absence of divorce continued the mistake of choosing the wrong partner and punished the woman and her children that came after that mistake. We carried that burden until, it was recently approved in the Phils. My family is finally free, although my parents are no longer with us.
I feel you. My dad had a first wife. Kaso nagkaron ng adultery yung first wife and so they parted ways and my dad eventually met my mom and they were together for 31 years. But when my dad died, the oldest daughter of his first family insisted na sa kanila iburol si daddy. Ang awkward talaga kasi yung mommy nya, 33 yrs na din na may ibang partner at mga anak. Di ko alam kung saan nya nakuha yung idea na dapat sa nanay nya iburol ang daddy. Yun pala akala nya may insurance sila na makukuha. Eh kaso buhay pa si daddy, nilipat nya lahat ng properties nya sa pangalan ng mommy. tapos pati insurances na claim na. Ayun galit na galit sa amin yung oldest daughter ng first family. Pero alam mo, in my heart, wala na sya sa lugar. Kasi 31 yrs na magkasama parents ko eh. Pundar na nila yun. At yung mommy nya 33 yrs na din na may ibang pamilya. mukhang pera lang talaga sya.
Bakit hindi? Marriage is a big risk to take, kahit 50 years na marriage minsan nauuwi sa divorce because couples change, they become unhappy, and they want different things. Why would you want to stay in a marriage that makes you miserable?
Kung gusto mo mag-dusa at maghirap, bahala ka. Pabayaan mo ang iba na maging masaya. Ang hirap sa ibang mga Pinoy masyado kayong pa-awa, na feeling nyo kung naghihirap kayo at nagtitiis eh mas pupurihin kayo. Mas gusto nyo pang masaklap ang maging buhay ng mga tao kahit may ibang options naman to have a better life.
Divorce for cheating spouses, yes. Jail and rehabilitation for spouses who hurt or who develop mental challenges. Marriage is not a walk in the clouds. People will use and abuse divorce to get their way too. so there should be a well written bill for this otherwise the moral and sanctity of family values will plummet in the Philippines same as in liberated countries.
Marriage is a big risk, kahit gaano pang paghahanda ang gawin nyo, never nyo masasabi na ready talaga kayo for marriage. People change, hindi forever na loyal and mabait ang magiging asawa mo. Hindi din impossible na at some point maging abusive or magkaroon ng bad vices kahit gaano kabait dati. Hindi maganda ang mentality na magpakasal lang kung talagang ready na and magtiis and mag-dusa once kasal na, dahil lahat ng tao and relationship nagbabago.
Divorce isn't the "easy way out". Ignorant and stupid lang nagsasabi na divorce will lead to infidelity and more broken marriages. Just acquiring a lawyer for divorce requires a lot of money. Akala nyo ba parang celebs yan na they can divorce easily? But even some celebs are locked in bitter divorce battles like Angelina Jolie na until now pinaglalabanan nila ni Brad Pitt ang assets nila. And that's after Bad Pitt has already been proven to be abusive. Divorce isn't easy.
Most ordinary people divorce as a last resort. People who get married don't think of divorce right away. Everyone wants a chance at happy ever after. But sometimes it doesn't work out. Divorce is a very stressful process on everyone lalo na if kids are involved. People do it because there's no other choice.
A lot of people stay and try to work on their marriages. Hindi porke may divorce eh people rush to get it. Only those who don't know the divorce process think getting divorced is a piece of cake. It's still a legal process that can take time and lots of money.
Alam nyo ba ang hirap na pinagdaanan ng mga kababaihan just to be granted their own rights and be able to divorce their husbands? Back before women got divorce and voting rights, a wife could be abused, maimed, and even murdered by their husbands because women were considered inferior and their husband's property. A wife could be declared insane just by their husband's word, no legal process, and be kidnapped and be locked away in an asylum until they died. A wife could be imprisoned in her own home by her husband because she had no rights and she couldn't escape him because by law, she wasn't a person but a property and her husband could do whatever he wanted with her. And these are true stories, these things really happened to many women throughout history, and are still happening to women today.
Divorce was, and in many cases still is, inherently a woman's fight for freedom. Most countries have progressed to allow divorce. Even the traditionally Catholic countries like Spain, France, and Italy have divorce laws. Why? Because their governments managed to separate from the Church and their society is not influenced by religious propaganda.
Divorce is a human right, bakit pilit nyo nilalabanan ang progress?
The real question is :) :) :) If you want divorce, why get married in the first place? :D :D :D I love eating ice cream but i don't want to get fat ;) ;) ;) I love swimming but i don't like getting wet :D :D :D
Wushus yung ibang mga anti divorce dyan kung maka react akala mo naman mga pinakasalan hahaha! Baka nga yung iba dyan mga di pa nagkajowa kaya napaka idealistic ng tingin sa relationships 😂
I am anti-divorce but I am in favor of making annulment faster and more accessible. Respect my opinion and that of others. We can agree to disagree. To the pro-divorce here, don’t shove your opinions to my throat na as if kayo lang ang may point.
Yung mga dahilan ng iba dito na pro-divorce, grounds yun for annulment. Gawin na lang mas mura at madali ang annulment especially for the abused women. Yung bagal ng justice system natin at mahal ng abogado, I wonder paano magiging mabilis at tama ang proseso ng divorce dito kung sakali.
YES TO DIVORCE. Let people decide what to do with their own lives. It literally does not affect you, it doesn’t hurt you and it doesn’t take anything away from you. But saying no does affect them, hurts them and it takes away their choice, so have some empathy.
Do you think our opinion matters? At the end of the day, ang magde decide ay ang mga senators natin na pabibo. Bakit ba sila ang dapat mag decide? Why don't they let the public decide? Biruin mo, 12 lang sila na magde decide? Napaka importanteng usapin yan.
Nakakainis yung mga religious fanatics. Hindi naman perpekto ang tao and people make lapses in judgment when it comes to choosing a marriage partner. Undoing that should be made convenient so people can start anew.
People react to divorce as if it is mandatory. Hello are you for real? Happily married couple will stay the same, may divorce man o wala. So anong pinaglalaban ng iba dito.
Are you for real? Ok ka lang? Yan pakaintindi ko sa anti divorce? Na even happily married couple with stay the same? Na it's not mandatory? Alam namin yan. You're just missing the point dear.
This is Fault Divorce, 12.47. I'm sure they will not include boredom and fell out of love as one of the grounds for divorce. That one you are thinking will not happen.
Ayaw lang ng mga pulitiko at mayayaman ang divorce kasi puro sila may kabit at walang prenup. Pag dinivorce sila ng legal wife kalahati agad ng yaman mawawala sa kanila.
This! Kaya nga yung mga ayaw sa divorce, makinig kayo specially if girls kayo or may anak kayong girls. Divorce is your protection. Para mabawasan na mga dead beat dads na galit na galit kayo
ok naman yung divorce kawawa lang yung mga bata minsan. sana kasama ang mga anak sa decision ng parents kaso divorce is always between the husband and wife only. you all should watched Oprah’s special episode on CHILDREN OF DIVORCE grabe nakakadurog ng puso.
Bakit kapag ba walang divorce, walang nghihiwalay? Walang batang kawawa? I dont get it. Advantage pa nga ang divorce, people can actually give themselves a second chance from an ugly failed marriage. Children and their single parent can have a chance for a new family, na walang tumatawag sa kanila na kabit or hindi legal.
There are just as many children of divorce who said it was better for them that their parents separated. Hindi lahat ng divorce cases eh negative experience for kids.
Go to Reddit and many forums and read the many stories of the adults who wish their parents DID divorce instead of staying together. Those kids had a very rough time dealing with two parents who hated each other but stayed together: fighting all the time, taking out their anger on their kids, affecting everyone around them with the negativity and misery. Many of their kids ended up not talking to their parents in adulthood because of the damages they've suffered.
And really, Oprah? That woman is known for pushing her own agenda and even promoting criminals and serial rapists in her talk shows. She has done more damage than good. Nobody should be listening to her.
Bakit kasi sa Pilipinas hindi paghiwalayin yung religion at legislation. Those are two separate entities. Long overdue na ito. To not pass the legislation based on religious affiliation is such a baseless logic. Not allowing divorce, yet tolerating adultery, cheating etc, just sounds ridiculous to me. People who are married but is eventually causing harm to the each other, to the point of abuse,be it physical, verbal, mental or emotional should be allowed to walk away and find their peace.
Yung tito ko sa Japan ay kasal sa kanyang Japanese wife for 18 years. They are happily married with 3 kids. One happy family. Take note: may divorce sa bansang Japan.
Yung tita ko naman sa Pinas ay hiwalay sa kanyang asawa for the last 16 years. They have one child na binata. Up to this day, sila ay kasal sa mata ng batas. They are married with conjugal rights. Hindi pwedeng bumili ng ari-arian ang isa kung wala yung pirma ng isa. Bawal mag-apply ng bank loan ang isa kung hindi pipirma yung isa. Wala na sila for 16 years pero hanggang ngayon ay nakatali pa rin sila sa isa't-isa.
My auntie is very happy with her single life while yung ex-husband naman niya ay masaya din sa buhay kasama ang kanyang life partner. Mayroon silang isang anak. That child is extra-marital and illegitimate kahit ang batang ito ay nabuo out of pagmamahal. The guy cannot marry her life partner because he is still married with my auntie.
Ano yung point ko?
First, the presence of divorce in Japan didn't ruin my uncle's family. Hindi totoo na wawasakin ng divorce ang maraming pamilya. Ang sisira sa isang pamilya ay yung mag-asawang involved. Yung dalawang tao. Hindi ang divorce law.
Second, kahit walang divorce sa Pilipinas, nasira pa rin ang pamilya ng tita ko dahil nagloko yung asawa niya. Meaning to say, kesyo may divorce o wala sa isang bansa, broken marriage and broken family will still exist. Kasi kung divorce pala ang wawasak sa isang pamilya, eh 'di sana walang hiwalayan sa bansang Pilipinas.
Divorce is not the problem.
Divorce is the solution to the problem.
Divorce doesn't break marriages and families.
Divorce fix the lives of the broken family.
Nilalagay nito sa ayos yung kapakanan ng mga bata at yung kapakanan nung dalawang matanda matapos masira ang kanilang pamilya.
Ayaw mo sa divorce because you are very happy with your married life? Then I'm very happy for you.
Pero hindi lahat ay pinalad kagaya mo.
Kaya huwag mo sanang ipagkait sa iba yung batas na magbibigay sa kanila ng bagong buhay.
there are better arguments than what she has posted... talk about taking a stand? she is standing on reasons other than hers... sawsaw with no effort, doesnt bring anything to the discussion.. haist!
Bakit yung mga anti Divorce dito eh pro annulment naman? Mas ginagawa ngang joke ng annulment ang kasal because it nullifies the marriage. Treating it as if it never happened. So malinis na kayo nyan pag nagpa annul pero malaki kasalanan niyo sa Diyos pag nag divorce? WHAT A JOKE.
SUPER AGREE!! Yes to divorce!
ReplyDeleteWE CAN AGREE TO DISAGREE!! No to divorce in the Philippines.
Delete1:19 Perfect example of selfishness. Takot bang idivorce ng asawa kaya you're projecting your fear on other people?
DeleteStop shoving your religious beliefs down everyone's throats. Kayo lang ang wag gumamit ng divorce!
Delete1:19, eh di huwag kang mag-divorce. Takot ka sa hatian ng properties at alimony?
Delete1:19 if divorce is not for you then dont avail of it. Let those who need it have it. Not everyone is blessed with a happy marriage.
Deleteyung ayaw ng divorce di wag mag divorce!pero wag pigilin at idamay yung may gusto
DeleteYes to divorce!
DeleteAng annulment kung tutuusin mas pinaglaruan ang sanctity ng marriage dahil ang annulment eh pinapawalang bisa ang kasal, that the marriage was null and void at walang kasalang naganap kaya ito ay hindi nagexist - even with the church ceremony and reception and all the works.
Yes to divorce. Wag na pilitin ang dalawang mag asawang wala nang pag-ibig sa isa’t isa, na humahantong sa isa or parehas na nagkakaroon ng extramarital relationships dahil doon nila nakukuha ang happiness sa bagong partner nila. Hindi ba yan ang usual scenario sa mga mag asawa na kalaunan eh naghihiwalay ng informal at nagkakaroon ng bagong karelasyon? Hindi ba at mas nabab@b0y ang sanctity ng marriage sa ganyang scenario?
Wag nang pilitin ang mag asawa na magsama sa iisang bubong at nagiging mala-impierno lang sa loob ng tahanan nila. Dahil sila ay hindi na magkasundo pa and worst of all may mga batang naiipit sa unhealthy home situation.
So, yes to divorce! 💅
Yes to divorce .. pls. Its about time..
DeleteOn point! If u don’t want it then don’t avail of it. Sa may need nito let them have it and set them free. If Hindi kayu maka relate bcoz u’re blessed with a happy marriage then just be thankful. But be considerate sa mga may need nito.
DeleteBakit annulment pwede eh pinayagan din naman maghiwalay ang mag asawa, kalokoha yung walang kasal na naganap or exist. So for me dapat pwede na din ang divorce.
Delete1:19 di kayo required kung ayaw nyo, kaloka
DeleteI agree with her. Marami kasi ang hindi nakaka-intindi sa Divorce law. Akala nila pag may divorce law sa Pilipinas, e mandatory na dapat mag-divorce ang mag-asawa. hahaha - Choice lang po ito para sa mga mag-asawang trapped sa isang abusive and unhappy marriage. kung masaya kayo, nagmamahalan at happy, di nyo kailangan mag-divorce. our senators and congressmen na nag-"no" sa divorce - reason nila? because they are happily married. Like Richard Gomez and Sen. Cynthia Villar. happily married daw sila kaya ni-reject nila ang Divorce law. mga educated people yan, mga mambabatas...pero mukhang hindi nila naiintindihan ang batas. hindi para sa kanila ang divorce law. yung mga ayaw sa Divorce, mas pinipili nila na mangabit o mag-cheat na lang kesa mag-hiwalay or magpapaka-martir na kahit bugbog-sarado na sila araw araw pati mga anak nila, ok lang, kasi di raw dapat paghiwalayin ang mag-asawa sabi ng bibliya or mas pinipili nila na abandonahin na lang ang pamilya. kawawa ang maiiwang need itaguyod ang mga anak nang walang tulong galing sa asawang nambubugbog or sumakabilang bahay. sa Divorce law di pwede yan... ang korte ang magdedecide kung magkano ang sustentong kailangan ibigay sa mga naiwan.
DeleteAyaw ko ng Divorce, for me and my husband syempre pero bakit natin ipagkakait sa iba na kailangan at gusto. Hindi lahat tayo swerte sa marriage natin huwag natin ipagkait sa iba ang masayang married life na meron tayo. As for the values na nawawala daw kapag may Divorce na, bakit ano bang values ang meron tayo ngayon? ilang married couples ba ang may mga side partners dahil di na sila masaya sa asawa nila? ilang separated couples ba ang meron ng kanya kanyang partner at anak kahit legally married pa sila.
DeleteActually yung Annulment dito sa atin, paramg pinahirap na Divorce na lang din naman. Ano un sinasabi nila na Annulment kasi ipinapa-declare na walang bisa ang kasal for some reason? eh bakit for the rich and privileged lang siya hindi kaya ng common tao ang mga gastos at talaga ng proseso. Pero ang bottomline, pinapawalang bisa na din ang kasal para makapag pakasal ulit. Hay naku
DeleteYes to Divorce. Senators should review this according to thier constituents need and not because masaya sila sa married life nila. Kaloka
ReplyDeletesadly, hindi sila gagawa at magpapasa ng batas na hindi papabor sa kanila
DeleteTakot din sila na mai-divorce. Imagine i-divorce sila ng asawa nila due to extra marital affairs or for other reasons? That means mape pwersa sila to split their assets / pay alimony
DeleteNO to divorce! Wag magpakasal! It's that simple! At pag nagpakasal panindigan at pagdusahan dahil sinumpaan nyo yan. Kung hindi na talaga kaya, makipaghiwalay nang hindi nagdidivorce that way walang chance magkaron uli ng biktima yung abuser. Period!
ReplyDeleteAng toxic niyo po. Anong klaseng mentalidad ang meron kayo?
Deletesolo ka mag dusa hahahha
DeleteDo you realize how ridiculous you sound?
DeleteKung gusto mo magdusa, sige. Pero wag ipagkait sa iba na gustong makaalis sa kasal.
DeleteWow! What a backpack thinking!
DeleteDi mo ata naintindihan post ni Maxene.
DeleteAng labo ng logic mo. So paano yung biktima? Magdusa din na d lumigaya? E akala ko ba nagbibigay ng second chance yung Diyos mo, e bakit ikaw na tao ipagkakait mo sa ibang tao. E d wow! Bigyan ng jacket!
Deletebut there are instances that abuser usually continues to abuse in one way or another; plus the victim can't move on because he/she is tied
DeleteAnong klaseng logic yan??? Tumilapon ang utak mo sa pluto.
Deleteang jurassic ng mentality. no daw sa Divorce pero "makipaghiwalay nang hindi nagdidivorce"... HUH?!
Deletecurrently, sa PH the only out of a married person from his/her marital obligation is through annulment and dyou have any idea how awfully expensive and lengthy the process of annulment is? paano na lang yung mga nakatali sa physically abusive relationship na walang money to burn for such proceeding? for sure if maimplement man ang divorce sa Pinas, there will be alterations and tailored to cater to the Filipinos. sa US, all states recognize “no-fault” divorces. this means there doesn’t need to be a specific incident or circumstance that caused the marriage to end. instead, couples can cite “irreconcilable differences” as the reason the marriage didn’t work out.
ALSO, divorce often comes with stricter rules and regulations regarding the dissolution of the relationship, especially if children are involved. usually, the parents must agree on a custody arrangement ahead of time, or a judge will decide what’s best for the children and determine custody during divorce proceedings.
kaya I agree with Maxene sa issue nato.
1:17 kung di mo talaga maintindihan, ganito na lang - meron na rin naman annulment. Mas bibigyan lang ng security, rights, and protection yung mga tao pag may divorce. Tapos yung inabuse, may chance siya at a new life pinagsasasabi mo na hindi na mang-aabuse yung partner? Walang makakapigil sa mga yan kung ganyan talaga sila.
DeleteWala tayo sa fairytale story. May mga abusadong asawa sa mundong ito. Pasalamat ka at hindi ikaw yun. Kung ipagdarasal mo talaga ang divorce.
DeleteAng laking tulong ng divorce sa mga babaeng niwawang hiya ng kanilang asawa. No! Pagtitiisan ang batugan at nanggugulpi??? Ano kaibahan ng mghiwalay ng walang divorce at mghiwalay ng meron sa mata ng Diyos???? Mali yata pgkaintindi mo ante kung totoong sinusunod mo ang Diyos! Kalokohan!
DeleteAkala mo ba wala nang chance mang biktima ang abuser kung hiniwalayan mo ng walang divorce??? KALOKOHAN! Tingin ko hindi tunay na naiintindihan ang divorce. Please mg inform ka po bago sumatsat wala naman palang alam.
Deletekorek ka dyan. merise sa mga nagpakasal para lang may pang content sa social media. madami na naman tatamaan dyan, di bala?
Deletekaya dumadami ang kabit and anak sa labas sa ganyan mentalidad.
DeleteGrabe ka 1.17 - wag selfish. If you don't want divorce, just don't get it. But let us, who wants divorce, have it. We need it. We are the only country na walang divorce. And let's face the fact na may mga tao na abused sa marriage. Ako for example, I was abused by my husband, physically and emotionally. Matagal na kami naghiwalay, may pamilya na sya na iba while I am still in trauma. I want to change my name back to my maiden, i want to buy properties for me and my kids but I can't because I am legally tied to him. So are you saying I have to just let it be? And this situation is very normal in the Philippines. There are lots of abuses kasi walang divorce. Kasi forced and tao na mag stay or forced na legally bind. Let's all move on going forward and not back.
Deletepatawa tong si 117. so paano na lang yung mga babae/lalaki na biktima ng domestic violence? hindi nga sila naghiwalay, kaliwa't kanan naman ang kabet.. adultery/ concubinage ang gusto mong mangyari eh di bin@boy nyo lang din ang "sanctity" kuno ng kasal.
Deletebigyan ng option ang iba, WE DESERVE DIVORCE.
Ay bawal magkamali?!?
DeleteTao lang teh!
Do people really need to suffer throughout life kung epic fail yung marriage?!
Omg anong utak ang meron ka??? Kung binubugbog ka ng asawa mo at ayaw mong makipaghiwalay, eh di ikaw lang magdusa. Bakit mo kelangan i-impose sa lahat ang pagohing makitid ng utak mo
DeleteSo under the kweba ng mentality mo, it's so toxic.
DeleteEver heard of the separation of church and state?!
1:17 This one... sounds like someone na takot mahiwalayan ng asawa, hahaha!
Delete4:32 abusive partners can be reported and rot in jail and I won't care really. But the victim partners have a chance to move on legally. Why should they be stuck with the a$$#at and be miserable all their lives?!
sinong magsabing walang option? di bala merong legal separation at annulment of marriage. pero pahirapan kamo, op kors kasi di dapat binabasta basta ang pag aasawa at paghihiwalay. yun yung point dun.
DeleteLet divorce be available to those who need it. Kung di mo need then don’t get it. Bakit kasi namgingialam yung mga tao na di naman kailangan to.
ReplyDeletelet marriage be available sa mga sure na. laban laban, wala ng bawi bawi. ganurn.
Delete5:02 Kaplastikan yan. Kung ganyan ang pananaw, mas ine-encourage nyo na mag-live in na lang yung mga tao kesa magpakasal. Tingin mo mas ok yun?
DeleteTo the religious, better ba to live in sin kesa magpakasal, magkamali, at mag-move on?
Sa mga nakatira sa ulap, kamusta naman ang mga live-in partner na bastardo ang anak(ergo minimal inheritance), walang shared medical benefits at walang say sa medical decisions?
Personally I have nothing against living in together, I did it with my now husband. We met & live o/s & it's not a big deal here, nearly everyone I know did it leading up to marriage.
DeleteHowever despite living together I know a few people who still split after marrying. Kaya natatawa ako sa mga tao na nagsasabi na "di mo kasi kinilala ng mabuti eh". Guys kahit yung mga nag live in before marriage naghihiwalay din. Minsan hindi talaga kaya. One couple I'm thinking of, the guy abandoned her when their baby was a few months old! Totally unexpected, gulat kami lahat!!! Something like 7 years together with 4 years mag live in! Di magaapply yung mga statememt na "di mo kasi pinagisipan" or "di ka kasi sure"!
She has primary custody & has a partner who is a great stepdad to their kid. The kid now has a great role model and a stable home life. The no to divorce people here would insist that she and the child were better off remaining legally bound in a loveless marriage with a deadbeat dad. Di ko talaga gets.
Ano para makapag asawa uli? LOL
DeleteWhy not?
DeletePeople deserve second chances.
Madaming nag-live in and yet nag-iba ang ugali after a major change, like having kids. Or joblessness.
DeleteAnd right now, there is no legal cohabitation status, so pag nasa life and death situation ang live in partner sa hospital, hindi pwedeng mag-decide ang kinakasama. Ni hindi pwedeng mag-stay sa bedside kung ganung ka-atribida ang magulang. Illegitimate children from live in status can only inherit half of what a legitimate child can. Hindi rin pwede mag-share ng insurance and medical benefits.
The law better work both ways. Marriage BY LAW is but another legal contract. There should be a way to dissolve it properly.
yung ang point mga neng. ginagawa nyo kasing easy peasy mga bagay bagay. gustong mag asawa, gorah. ay ayoko na pala, gora. we don't wanna live in a society like that kaya ayaw namin sa divorce. saka may legal separation at annulment naman, di bala?
Delete5:02 wag mo po kami idamay sa fears mo na bigla ka iwan ng asawa mo LOL
DeleteBinigyan tayo ng kalayaan ng Panginoon sa kung anong gusto nating gawin sa buhay. Tayo ay temporary lang sa mundong ito. Lilipas lang ang lahat at haharap sa Diyos pagdating ng panahon. Magandang mamuhay sa mundo na sumusunod sa kalooban ng Diyos para tayo'y kalulugdan Niya. Isipin mo muna ang damdamin ng Diyos bago ang damdamin mo. Pag ang sariling kalooban mo ang sinusunod mo hindi ka papunta sa Diyos papalayo ka.
ReplyDelete121 For non religious peeps, how?
DeleteSame question. I am not Catholic. Sino yung Diyos na tinutukoy mo? There are thousands of them all over the world.
DeleteHindi po lahat ay religious. Hindi lahat iisa ang religion. Hindi lahat ay tulad mo ng mgiisip.
Delete2:16 Know Jesus
DeletePaano yan, buddhist ako. So, pwede divorce?
DeletePlease explain annulment in your Panginoon preach. Annulment nullifies sacred union, while divorce simply breaks the legal bond. So ano mas Malala?
Delete4:01 Bakit ka pala nagpakasal kung hindi ka naniniwala sa Diyos??? Diyos ang nag utos na magpakasal ang tao. Fyi.
DeleteSa simbahan lang ba nagpapakasal?! Pwede naman sa juez lang.
DeleteBat nagpapakasal? For LEGAL reasons. Shared benefits, right to medical decisions, legitimate children.
Hindi lahat bg tao umiikot ang mundo sa religion.
11:43 Nagpakasal po ako dahil gusto ko. Walang mahiwagang boses na nagutos sa akin. Si Mayor po nagkasal sa amin.
DeleteYes! Sa mga ayaw mag divorce eh di wag kayo mag divorce. Pero wag kayong pala desisyon sa buhay ng iba kung gusto nila makipag divorce.
ReplyDeletekaya nga NO TO DIVORCE para walang option yung mga nag aasawa ng di pinag iisipan, pa clout lang. kasi nag asawa na si beshie, mag asawa na din ako kasi napag iwanan na ako. yung lasal dapat sa mga sure na.
DeleteNapakababaw magisip ni 5:04.
Delete5:04 napakababaw naman ng reason na binibigay mo. There are a lot of marriages that revealed the true color of their spouse na hindi pinakita nung hindi pa sila kasal. Naghihiwalay kahit magasawa, thats an undeniable fact. Bakit hindi natin gawing maayos? Yes to divorce!
Delete5:04 pm okay ka ba? hindi fixed ang mind ng mga tao , nagbabago ang kaisipan, nagbabago lahat ... Sana ganun na lang ung sure na sure yung walang magbabago simula't sapul edi sana hindi nagdadalawang isip magpakasal edi sana walang naghihiwalay. Anong utak meron ka ba ?
Delete5:04 Eh paano yung mga abused? Idadamay mo sila dyan sa gusto mo para lang pigilan na maghiwalay ang mga clout chasers kuno? Hindi ka na nga nag-iisip, selfish ka pa.
Delete5:04 pano mo nalaman na di pinagisipan?? Andun ka nung nagpaplano sya? Andun ka nug nagsstruggle
DeleteSila?
may annulment at legal separation mga ineng. ang alam ko kung bakit pahirapan yung proceso para di basta basta ang hiwalayan.
Deleteay 10:55 dapat pag nagpapakasal fixed na yung mind. di puedi yung eto muna si A yung pakakasalan ko kasi di pa available si B. pad di omobra kay B, hahanap ako ng C at D. ay ang gara ng pag iisip ng mga tao ngayon.
DeleteYEEEESSSSS TO DIVORCE.
ReplyDeleteTAYONG MGA KABABAEHAN ANG DEHADO SA MARRIAGE.
Hindi naman ako dehado. Nasa pinili nyong maging asawa yan at nasa iyo bilang asawa. So kung hindi kayo sigurado sa magiging asawa nyo at magiging relasyon nyo wag kayo magpakasal.
DeleteMay mga taong lumalabas ang kahayupan pag nagsasama na kayo sa iisang bubong. Yung ex husband ko sinasaktan ako. Sa tiyan at hita ako sinusuntok para di kita ang pasa. Ayun 15 years na kaming hiwalay dala ko pa din apelyodo nya. Di nagsusustento kahot college na anak namin. Ako pa gagastos sa annulment?
Delete4:44 andami kong gustong sabihin sayo haha sige lang good luck sayo mhie pero balikan mo yang sinabi mo someday hehe
Delete4:44 wala kaming pake sa feeling fairy tale life mo.
DeleteAng pake ko eh yung mga stuck sa abusive and loveless marriages. Mga nagkamali dala ng kabataaan. Mga pinilit magpakasal ng magulang. They have to be freed.
mas good luck sayo at sa pa divorce mo mareng 12:45am. mas kailangan mo yun kesa sa akin right now.
DeleteYung mga nababasa ko sa FB kung maka NO sa divorce kala mo naman magkaka mass divorce sa mga mag asawa pag napatupad ang batas. Maghihiwalay daw ang mga mag asawa pag nagka divorce. Juskelerd!
ReplyDeleteMagpapa-diborsyahang bayan ata si mayora... charot!
DeleteAng kikitid ng utak ano? Siguro sila ang takot mahiwalayan bg asawa, hahaha!
Yes na yes to divorce and yes na yes to gay rights. It is about time Pilipinas! How can we have no divorce while China and the rhe Middle East has? Nagpapauto kasi kayo sa simbahan. Sila nga galing sa UK, USA Italy eh wala silang nasabi doon kung saan galing ang Katolicismo, at may divorce naman ah tapos dito bawal? Ano yan?????
ReplyDeleteHindi dahil ginagawa ng lahat ay tama.
Deletesila yun. never, ever, ever in the philippines ❤
DeleteKapag po naisabatas ang Divorce Bill ay HINDI PO required na maghiwalay ang mga mag-asawang maayos naman ang pagsasama. Bakit ang hirap ipasok nito sa kokote ng mga against sa divorce bill? Ang siste pala eh, kapag nagkaron ng physical/mental/emotional abuse sa relasyon ng mag asawa eh habangbuhay na tiisin at pag dusahan dahil yun ang gusto ni Lord, na walang maghihiwalay na mag asawa.
ReplyDeleteTrueee ang daming tanga!!!! Porket may divorce yung mga kasal maghihiwalay. Ganun ung takbo ng isip nila. Hahahaa
Deletewag magpakasal kung di sure physical mental at emotional status ng partner mo. ganun dapat. di yung basta basta nalang pakasal, kasi may divorce naman. easy peasy.
DeleteOk lang daw na bugbugin ng asawa araw araw o mambabae ng lantaran. Malaking kasalanan sa Diyos pag nakipag divorce kaya mag dusa ka na lang daw. Ginusto mo yang asawa mo eh. Walang iwanan hanggang kamatayan. EME!
Delete5:06 You do realize na lumalabas ang tunay na ugali o nag iiba ang ugali pag kasal na? People change. Habang dumadami ang responsibilidad ng isang tao nag iiba rin ang ugali nyan. Yung iba apakasweet pag bf gf pa lang pero pag asawa na nag iiba na trato. O anong masasabi mo?
DeleteBaka takot sila na iwan sila ng mga asawa nila. Hindi sila secured sa marriage nila. Haha
Deletelol para lang sa mga naive yang pa reverse psychology mo mareng 7.45pm. di oobra yan dito sa mga may sariling pag iisip.
Delete5.59pm isa lang masasabi ko, kilalanin mabuti amg partner bago magpakasal. saka may legal separation at annulment. anong no option out mga pinagsasabi ninyo.
DeleteIto mga possible reasons nung mga NO to divorce. One, takot sila na bigla sila idivorce ng asawa nila. Hindi sila secured. Two, akala nila kapag nagkaron ng divorce, lahat magiging required magdivorce. kahit yung masasaya marriage. LOL Jan mo makikita yung poor educational system ang daming obob e. Three, swerte sila kasi di nagbago asawa nila. kaya wala silang empathy. (i hope maranasan ng lahat ng nag NO na magcheat, maging abusive partners nila, para maintindihan nila).
DeleteKami ng asawa ko agree sa divorce pero wala kami plan, kasi dun kami against sa domestic violence/abuse na nangyayari between magasawa.
ReplyDeleteSame here. Happily married pero agree na magkaDivorce sa Pinas.
Deletee di wow, kayo yun. kami naman hindi. at the end of the day, majority wins.
DeleteYes to divorce! 👊👊👊
ReplyDeleteAmen to that! I'm happily married pero my heart goes out to all people trapped in abusive marriages. I have heard of countless horror stories from both families and friends na until now is suffering and nagtitiis sa relationship nila. Nahihirapan mag totally move on dahil walang divorce.
ReplyDeleteTHIS! I am also happily married. Pero hindi ibig sabihin ganun din ang sitwasyon ng iba. Can you imagine telling a woman in a miserable relationship to suck it up and suffer. People deserve a second chance. People deserve to be happy! Yes to Divorce!
DeleteLet me guess karamihan s anti divorce dito mga babaero at mga mysogonists...
ReplyDeleteHindi naman. Marunong lang kami magpahalaga sa sanctity ng marriage.
DeleteAkala kase nila divorce is that easy. Di lang basta basta hiwalay tapos tapos na. May kasama pang spouse support and child support yan depende sino ang mas may pera sa inyo mag asawa. Pag ang lady boss napangasawa ng palamunin na lalake, possible na makakuha ng spouse support ang lalake esp pag magaling lawyer nya. Tapos tatalak nnaman kayo pag ganun eksena. Pero kung keri lang sanyo, sure why not. Dapat ang hingin nyo na law na ipasa jan ay child support. Mga bata kase kawawa pag may parents na naghihiwalay.
ReplyDeleteAgree. Good point there.
Deletedivorce na lang daw kasi, wag na yang child support law whatever na yan. mas concern ng mga dehadong partner sa kasal ang alimony, palimony or whatever --mony na yan. basta sounds like money, gora divorce.
DeleteCurious lang po sa mga against sa divorce bill? Bakit kayo against sa divorce? Ipaintindi niyo samin kung bakit hindi pwede magkadivorce sa Pilipinas. Is it purely because of religious reasons?
ReplyDeleteHappy daw kasi family life nila.
DeleteKung religion man dahilan ng iba, we all have to respect that.
DeleteTakot sa hatian ng properties, strict child support at alimony.
DeleteNo to divorce. Ang pag papakasal pinagiisipan ng madaming beses. Isang maliit na red flag wag palagpasin. Getting married will be an easier decision now knowing na may divorce naman. Yung mga nasa sitwasyon na naghiwalay or nagkamali ng decision ang di tututol dito. Marriage is not a trial and error. Bago ka magpakasal, ipagdasal mo at kilatisin mong maige. Mas Kawawa mga babae dito. Mas madali na ngayon magloko o magpabaya sa relasyon ang lalaki pag nagka divorce.
ReplyDeleteEasier said than done. Lumalabas ang tunay na kulay at ugali ng partner pag kasal na kayo. Napaka idealist ng ganitong thinking. Kailangan niyong masampal sa realidad ng buhay.
Deletematagal ng maraming loko loko at pabayang lalaki. Sabi nga ni Atom
DeleteAraullo, kung hindi para sayo ang Divorce, bakit mo ito ipagkakait sa iba?
Aminin mo, takot ka no? Baka bigla ka iwan? Hehehe.. are you 100% sure sa asawa mo?
Delete2:39 Mas matatakot nga lalaki magloko kasi pwede siyang i-divorce ng asawa niya pag nagkataon and it goes both ways. Mas pipiliin ko na lang i-divorce ako kesa pagtaksilan ako while married and be stuck in a loveless marriage.
Delete2:39 sure ka? Di ba mas kawawa yung mga inabuso and pinagtaksilan pero walang stuck sila. Di mo alam na yung iba lumalabas lang totoong kulay pag kasal na? Saang fairytale ka galing?
Delete2:39 people cheat whether or not there is divorce. And they cheat more without divorce because they think wala naman choice yung mga asawa nila but to stick with them. But with divorce, people with have a choice to walk away pag niloko at sinaktan sila ng partner.
DeleteOn the contrary, dahil may divorce mas pagiisipan nila ang kasal dahil pag nauwi sa divorce may financial implication yun na malala.
DeleteIf you feel na "[m]as madali na ngayon magloko o magpabaya sa relasyon ang lalaki pag nagka divorce", then by the same logic pag ginawa sa yo yan ng asawa mo ay dahil hindi mo lang kasi "pinagiisipan ng madaming beses" ang pagpapakasal. Gulo gulo mo sist
Delete3:31, that is exactly the reason why they are against it. Happy kuno pero hindi secured.
DeleteAs someone who does not believe in marriage, i support divorce bill. Ako nga na d naniniwala sa kasal, d ko kayo binabawalan magpakasal e, bakit yung mga naniniwala sa divorce ayaw nyo pagbigyan. Live and let live. Bakit kayo nagwo-worry para sa soul ng ibang tao, kung sarili nyo nga d nyo ma-guarantuee na d kayo mapupunta sa impyerno. I say YES to divorce
ReplyDeletePareho tayo. Sakit sa ulo ang mag-asawa o magpakasal. Long term relationship na lang, tapos uwi ako sa sarili kong bahay. Hahaha
Deletei love my husband, i love my children but i open for having divorce in the philippines. yes, there are a lot of unhealthy marriages that cant move on due to absence of this.mas maiintindihan ni Lord ito rather than committing continues crimes like adultery or abuse by staying in such kind of marriages just so because there's no way out
ReplyDelete2x pa sila kinasal,sa church the sa beach,inabot kng ng pandemic nawala na,to think nasa bali sila for yoga, in serene place pa naman
ReplyDeleteAng bubully ng mga pro-divorce dito. Kaya siguro kayo hiniwalayan ng mga asawa nyo.
ReplyDeleteI am a very happily married woman for 20 years now and there is a divorce where I live . I am pro divorce for my friends who ate there in the Phils who are living in misery. What kind of mindset do you have 3:45 ??? I am a silent reader here and shame on you for saying the pro divorce are bullies.
Deletetrulagen. parang yung mga woke lang sa amerika, ang to-toxic. gusto nila yung gusto lang nila marinig 🤣
Delete4:51 Can’t you read the comments of the pro-divorce people here? Parang dapat sila lang ang pakinggan and they are not respecting the opinions of those who are against it. The fact you are saying “shame on you” to 3:45 makes you a bully as well.
DeleteI was glad nambabae ex ko gumanda buhay ko. Nung nag hiwalay kmi, Sarap ng life wala sakit ng ulo. I’m glad I’m separated. I’m pro divorce.
Delete9:32, what 4:51 is saying here I guess is just because pro divorce , 3:45 is assuming na mga hiniwalayan ng mga asawa ang mga pro divorce ? Kaya shame on you rin! You are the bully na mga anti divorce .
Delete3:45, napakarami naming mga happily married na pro divorce . Don’t project your bitterness because of having a lousy and lonely life .
Deletee di kayo yun 1:14am, may sarili kaming opinion. at sinong nagsabing hindi kami happily married? asumerang mga bully.
DeleteYES to divorce. Panahon na! We are one of the World's most corrupt country! And people keep voting them and tolerating them and even supporting plunderes and killers! Wag kayong pa-holy na kesyo Catholic eme ang Pilipinas. Tandaan niyo, nagkaroon tayo ng presidente na may MGA kabit at anak sa iba't-ibang babae while married.
ReplyDeleteDapat "ng mga presidente, senador at congressman"...
DeleteSerious question sa mga ayaw sa Divorce- ano pong mapapala at pakialam nyo if mag divorce yung ibang tao sa paligid nyo? Seryoso lang.
ReplyDeleteserious question din sa mga pro-divorce, ano pong mapapala at pakialam nyo if ayaw sa divorce yung ibang tao sa paligid nyo? seryoso lang din. may kanya kanya tayong opinion. majority wins.
Delete5:00 Mas less ang mga mentally broken and traumatized people na makakasalamuha mo sa araw araw. Yon ang mapapala namin. Alam mo ba na yung mga batang lumaki na may abuse sa bahay, ang lala ng trauma na dala nyan? Malaki epekto sa development ng tao ang nakikita nila sa bahay habang lumalaki sila.
DeleteAng mapapako is protecting the integrity of marriage and family. While i feel sorry to those who are trapped in unhappy or abusive relp, this become an option to the many who easily gives up, those who dont think of their decisions before getting into one. and then, they have kids. who will eventually be affected. because
Deletethey have parents who did not try or did not think enough before getting married.
Yung mga bata ang kawawa.
Delete5:00 pm , wow ah, kasali ka ba sa relasyon ng iba para ipag pilitan mo ang kasal na di na gumagana. Kayong mga anti-divorce crowd, bawas bawasan nyo ang pakikielam sa relasyon ng iba lalo wala kayong ambag kung ano ang nangyayari sa buhay ng iba
Delete5:00, huwag kang mag-divorce kung ayaw mo. Pabayaan mo ang ibang mag-divorce kung gustoa nila.
Delete5:00 if you’re pro-divorce you are giving people a choice, if you’re against then you are taking away their choice. Your life doesn’t change but other people’s lives can change for the better if divorce was an option.
Deletesame sa mga product ng broken marriages. kaya ang solusyon pag isipan mabuti bago magpakasal. kilalanin mabuti mga partner nyo bago pumirma sa harap ni father, pastor, mayor or ni judge.
Delete5:00 Sino ka para sabihin sakin na pag binubugbog ako ng asawa ko eh tiisin ko nalang at wala naman akong magagawa na hanggang mamatay ako dala ko apelyido niya at lahat ng naipon ko sa kanya mapupunta?
DeleteYes to divorce. For all those people who are anti-divorce, all I can say is I envy your naivete na "di nyo kasi pinansin ang red flags" at "di nyo kasi pinagdasal" o "bilis nyo kasi magsuko". Guys ang sheltered nyo hahaha kung sa tingin nyo na sobrang babaw ang mga dahilan kung bakit naghihiwalay ang mga tao. Like yes, maybe some people get divorced for shallow reasons but believe it or not for the people I know who got divorced it wa a long and agonising decision.
ReplyDeleteI live overseas now and super big deal ang Domestic Violence dito, the government is really trying its best to keep people safe and AWAY from domestic partners who are abusive, yet sa Pilipinas the message is "ay, sorry pinakasalan mo, you're tied to that person forever, work through it nalang!"
And the argument of "well at least kung walang divorce, iwanan mo nalang pero married pa din kayo so the abuser can't abuse anyone else" - WRONG! The abuser can definitely get another bf/gf and abuse them, the only thing this now the abused person can't move on with their life and find love again.
Believe it or not, some problems only emerge years after a marriage, so is that person doomed to be with an abusive partner forever na vinivictim blame pa na "kasalanan mo kasi eh, di mo talaga pinag-isipan nung nagpakasal kayo."
Some examples of people I know who divorced:
- Guy became schizophrenic a few years after marriage. He physically attacked his then-wife and is now committed to a mental institution.
- Guy was confused about his sexuality and felt pressured to marry.
- Guy cheated on his wife multiple times. Question lang, if you have a friend and her boyfriend cheats on her and she's absolutely miserable, do you tell her "stick it out", pero parang as soon as they're married and she's miserable and the guy cheats, you'll say "ah nagpakasal kayo eh, work it out nalang!" even if the guy had ZERO indications of cheating previously?
- I have a tita who didn't get divorced, but she was abandoned by her husband and left to raise 3 small kids by herself. So people who say no to divorce think that people like her don't deserve to get into a loving married relationship ever? (Oh my cousins are grown up na, their sperm donor is still a deadbeat.)
So to the people who say NO to divorce, all I say is I envy you that you think these kinds of things can just be solved by "ah basta you shouldn't give up on your spouse, you made a promise so work through it nalang."
For the record I'm happily married, never divorced, and all I can say is I hope everyone on this earth has their chance of finding their own happiness!!!
Im happily married and also a catholic but I strongly support the divorce bill. People should be given the chance to make their own choices people should be allowed to have the chance to be free from a toxic relationship, heal and be happy. Walang normal na tao na nagpapakasal na ang end goal is makipaghiwalay lahat gusto ng happily ever after so they try pero minsan hindi talaga kaya also hindi ito cinderella fairytale this is real life.
ReplyDeleteKarapatan ng bawat tao ang pumili. Yes to divorce!
ReplyDeleteNo to Divorce! Simula nang magkababy ako. Mas iniisip ko na yung mararamdaman ng anak ko kaysa sa sarili ko. Yung mga bata ang magsusuffer kung matutuloy yan. Maawa kayo sa mga bata!
ReplyDeleteYikes. A family friend of ours split up from her husband. Naging drug addict kasi sya. Buti nalang may kaya at na-annul (but after a looooong time).
DeleteHer son would tell his mom that he would be protecting her and his little sister when the dad would have one of his episodes. Nakakaawa na at that age, yun yung pinagkaaabalahan nya, to protect his mom and sister.
What about if a parent is abusive? Mas nakakaawa to keep an abuser around children! Even if hindi ang kid ang inaabuse, nakakatrauma kaya na makita na inaabuse ang magulang mo! And what are you teaching the child? That it's OK to hit other people when you're angry? Or that you shouldn't stand up for yourself and just take it when you are being abused?
Staying together is not always what's best for kids!
Kawawa naman mga bata seeing their parents trapped in a loveless marriage, worse still if may kabit na involved or domestic violence. Imagine them witnessibg those things in their household, tapos dala dala nila hanggang paglaki. Tsk tsk!
DeleteMay VAWC naman
DeleteComing from a broken family is better than living in one. I know...
DeleteHey. I am a product of broken family. My dad left my mom for another woman; they are living as a family, up to this time.
DeleteMy mom had to raise me and my two brothers by herself. Yung dad ko nag bigay lang ng support kung kelan nya (or ng babae nya) gusto. Pero right now more than 15 years na kaming walang support. Pero okay lang. Nakaya naman namin, thanks to my mom who stayed strong kasi wala naman sya ibang choice kung hindi magpaka-strong eh. Sometimes naiisip namin ng mga kapatid ko, sana may divorce para hindi na nahihirapan si mommy at malaya sya magpakasal sa lalaking nagtrato sa kanya ng tama.
Kaso wala eh, hanggang ganon lang sila ng mom ko.
We witnessed the emotional and even physical and spiritual toll that this set up had on my mom. Kung magiging malaya sya completely from the dead marriage I think she can start fresh and it’s never too late then.
I am a divorce believer eversince. When my dad passed away, his body was taken away from us from the province to Manila, by his first family. My parents were together for almost 31 years versus the less than 10 years with the original family. Before he died, we knew that he wanted to be buried where we lived, but then, his last wish has no strength.
ReplyDeleteHis first family and our family have no rift at all. They knew we existed as they were way older than us. In our minds, since we have a good relationship and we thought that they fully accepted us, stories like this in death will never happen, but it did.It was very painful esp to my Mom but she never complained. We knew, as we have seen and heard, second families having no say , when it comes to death.
In the end, our visits to our dad became less and less as traveling to Manila was challenging and longer due to traffic grid and my Mom's old age.
My dad has a tombstone beside my mom's now after she passed away, too. My dad's body wasn't there but they're finally together in spirit after being separated for 34 years by circumstances, like the absence of divorce.
Their relationship was considered illegal and my mom a mistress for so long, regardless of the kind of life and love they had and lived. The absence of divorce continued the mistake of choosing the wrong partner and punished the woman and her children that came after that mistake. We carried that burden until, it was recently approved in the Phils. My family is finally free, although my parents are no longer with us.
I feel you. My dad had a first wife. Kaso nagkaron ng adultery yung first wife and so they parted ways and my dad eventually met my mom and they were together for 31 years. But when my dad died, the oldest daughter of his first family insisted na sa kanila iburol si daddy. Ang awkward talaga kasi yung mommy nya, 33 yrs na din na may ibang partner at mga anak. Di ko alam kung saan nya nakuha yung idea na dapat sa nanay nya iburol ang daddy. Yun pala akala nya may insurance sila na makukuha. Eh kaso buhay pa si daddy, nilipat nya lahat ng properties nya sa pangalan ng mommy. tapos pati insurances na claim na. Ayun galit na galit sa amin yung oldest daughter ng first family. Pero alam mo, in my heart, wala na sya sa lugar. Kasi 31 yrs na magkasama parents ko eh. Pundar na nila yun. At yung mommy nya 33 yrs na din na may ibang pamilya. mukhang pera lang talaga sya.
DeleteIt’s not approved in the Philippines yet.
DeleteNo to divorce. Mag aasawa tapos ayaw nyo na, ganon lang yun? Hahhaha
ReplyDeleteNope, divorce isn't as simplistic as you make it out to be.
DeleteMarami rin pong naghihiwalay na mag-asawa kahit walang divorce sa Pilipinas. Ano po say nyo dun?
DeleteTrue, same mindset as Max Collins, magbobonga ng kasal pero sa hiwalayan din nag-end, laro na lang sa kanila ang kasal
DeleteBakit hindi? Marriage is a big risk to take, kahit 50 years na marriage minsan nauuwi sa divorce because couples change, they become unhappy, and they want different things. Why would you want to stay in a marriage that makes you miserable?
DeleteKung gusto mo mag-dusa at maghirap, bahala ka. Pabayaan mo ang iba na maging masaya. Ang hirap sa ibang mga Pinoy masyado kayong pa-awa, na feeling nyo kung naghihirap kayo at nagtitiis eh mas pupurihin kayo. Mas gusto nyo pang masaklap ang maging buhay ng mga tao kahit may ibang options naman to have a better life.
tell me you’re not married without telling me you’re not married
DeleteAkala yata ng mga anti divorce eh once it is legal magiging mas madali o mabilis na ang pakikipaghiwalay.
DeleteKaya takot sila na baka people will take marriage so lightly. Baka pakasal nlng ng pakasal kesyo may divorce naman.
Ang hiwalayan ng mga tao hindi mgbabago dahil may divorce. Mghihiwalay pa din sino mang may gusto, meron man o walang divorce.
Mahal ang divorce. Process pa din yan. Mabusisi, matrabaho.
Hindi ako naniniwala na lahat ng mghihiwalay would file for a divorce.
I think only those who really needs it.
Those who want divorce shouldnt get married.
ReplyDeleteNews flash: People generally don't get married with the intention of wanting to divorce later on.
DeleteTHIS. And please, aralin sana ng mga tao ang difference ng annulment at divorce.
DeleteOh really? Tell that to the rest of the world. Including your divorced idol.
DeleteExactly!
DeleteHow selfish. Lahat ng tao may chances at choices sa buhay.
DeleteDivorce for cheating spouses, yes. Jail and rehabilitation for spouses who hurt or who develop mental challenges. Marriage is not a walk in the clouds. People will use and abuse divorce to get their way too. so there should be a well written bill for this otherwise the moral and sanctity of family values will plummet in the Philippines same as in liberated countries.
ReplyDeleteMarriage is a big risk, kahit gaano pang paghahanda ang gawin nyo, never nyo masasabi na ready talaga kayo for marriage. People change, hindi forever na loyal and mabait ang magiging asawa mo. Hindi din impossible na at some point maging abusive or magkaroon ng bad vices kahit gaano kabait dati. Hindi maganda ang mentality na magpakasal lang kung talagang ready na and magtiis and mag-dusa once kasal na, dahil lahat ng tao and relationship nagbabago.
ReplyDeleteDivorce isn't the "easy way out". Ignorant and stupid lang nagsasabi na divorce will lead to infidelity and more broken marriages. Just acquiring a lawyer for divorce requires a lot of money. Akala nyo ba parang celebs yan na they can divorce easily? But even some celebs are locked in bitter divorce battles like Angelina Jolie na until now pinaglalabanan nila ni Brad Pitt ang assets nila. And that's after Bad Pitt has already been proven to be abusive. Divorce isn't easy.
Most ordinary people divorce as a last resort. People who get married don't think of divorce right away. Everyone wants a chance at happy ever after. But sometimes it doesn't work out. Divorce is a very stressful process on everyone lalo na if kids are involved. People do it because there's no other choice.
A lot of people stay and try to work on their marriages. Hindi porke may divorce eh people rush to get it. Only those who don't know the divorce process think getting divorced is a piece of cake. It's still a legal process that can take time and lots of money.
Alam nyo ba ang hirap na pinagdaanan ng mga kababaihan just to be granted their own rights and be able to divorce their husbands? Back before women got divorce and voting rights, a wife could be abused, maimed, and even murdered by their husbands because women were considered inferior and their husband's property. A wife could be declared insane just by their husband's word, no legal process, and be kidnapped and be locked away in an asylum until they died. A wife could be imprisoned in her own home by her husband because she had no rights and she couldn't escape him because by law, she wasn't a person but a property and her husband could do whatever he wanted with her. And these are true stories, these things really happened to many women throughout history, and are still happening to women today.
Divorce was, and in many cases still is, inherently a woman's fight for freedom. Most countries have progressed to allow divorce. Even the traditionally Catholic countries like Spain, France, and Italy have divorce laws. Why? Because their governments managed to separate from the Church and their society is not influenced by religious propaganda.
Divorce is a human right, bakit pilit nyo nilalabanan ang progress?
The real question is :) :) :) If you want divorce, why get married in the first place? :D :D :D I love eating ice cream but i don't want to get fat ;) ;) ;) I love swimming but i don't like getting wet :D :D :D
ReplyDeleteDivorce is your plan B you wish you’ll never need but wish you’d always have.
DeleteEating ice cream and swimming are all your decisions, walang ibang taong involved. See the difference?
Delete2:33 amen!
DeleteWushus yung ibang mga anti divorce dyan kung maka react akala mo naman mga pinakasalan hahaha! Baka nga yung iba dyan mga di pa nagkajowa kaya napaka idealistic ng tingin sa relationships 😂
ReplyDeleteNo to Divorce 👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎
ReplyDeleteI am anti-divorce but I am in favor of making annulment faster and more accessible. Respect my opinion and that of others. We can agree to disagree. To the pro-divorce here, don’t shove your opinions to my throat na as if kayo lang ang may point.
ReplyDeleteYung mga dahilan ng iba dito na pro-divorce, grounds yun for annulment. Gawin na lang mas mura at madali ang annulment especially for the abused women. Yung bagal ng justice system natin at mahal ng abogado, I wonder paano magiging mabilis at tama ang proseso ng divorce dito kung sakali.
ReplyDeleteYES TO DIVORCE. Let people decide what to do with their own lives. It literally does not affect you, it doesn’t hurt you and it doesn’t take anything away from you. But saying no does affect them, hurts them and it takes away their choice, so have some empathy.
ReplyDeleteDo you think our opinion matters? At the end of the day, ang magde decide ay ang mga senators natin na pabibo. Bakit ba sila ang dapat mag decide? Why don't they let the public decide? Biruin mo, 12 lang sila na magde decide? Napaka importanteng usapin yan.
ReplyDeleteLuh 24 ang senators natin.
DeleteNakakainis yung mga religious fanatics. Hindi naman perpekto ang tao and people make lapses in judgment when it comes to choosing a marriage partner. Undoing that should be made convenient so people can start anew.
ReplyDeletePeople react to divorce as if it is mandatory. Hello are you for real? Happily married couple will stay the same, may divorce man o wala. So anong pinaglalaban ng iba dito.
ReplyDeleteAre you for real? Ok ka lang? Yan pakaintindi ko sa anti divorce? Na even happily married couple with stay the same? Na it's not mandatory? Alam namin yan. You're just missing the point dear.
DeleteThis is Fault Divorce, 12.47. I'm sure they will not include boredom and fell out of love as one of the grounds for divorce. That one you are thinking will not happen.
DeleteAyaw lang ng mga pulitiko at mayayaman ang divorce kasi puro sila may kabit at walang prenup. Pag dinivorce sila ng legal wife kalahati agad ng yaman mawawala sa kanila.
ReplyDeletesa true lang
DeleteThis! Kaya nga yung mga ayaw sa divorce, makinig kayo specially if girls kayo or may anak kayong girls. Divorce is your protection. Para mabawasan na mga dead beat dads na galit na galit kayo
DeleteReal talk!
Deleteok naman yung divorce kawawa lang yung mga bata minsan. sana kasama ang mga anak sa decision ng parents kaso divorce is always between the husband and wife only. you all should watched Oprah’s special episode on CHILDREN OF DIVORCE grabe nakakadurog ng puso.
ReplyDeleteBakit kapag ba walang divorce, walang nghihiwalay? Walang batang kawawa? I dont get it. Advantage pa nga ang divorce, people can actually give themselves a second chance from an ugly failed marriage. Children and their single parent can have a chance for a new family, na walang tumatawag sa kanila na kabit or hindi legal.
DeleteThere are just as many children of divorce who said it was better for them that their parents separated. Hindi lahat ng divorce cases eh negative experience for kids.
DeleteGo to Reddit and many forums and read the many stories of the adults who wish their parents DID divorce instead of staying together. Those kids had a very rough time dealing with two parents who hated each other but stayed together: fighting all the time, taking out their anger on their kids, affecting everyone around them with the negativity and misery. Many of their kids ended up not talking to their parents in adulthood because of the damages they've suffered.
And really, Oprah? That woman is known for pushing her own agenda and even promoting criminals and serial rapists in her talk shows. She has done more damage than good. Nobody should be listening to her.
Magalit na magalit hehe basta No to divorce. At least tayo Lang sa Asia ang walang Divorce hheh
ReplyDeleteSana mabugbog ka ng asawa mo hanggang malumpo ka tapos yung mga benefits and insurance mo maenjoy ng asawa mo at kabit niya.
DeleteAs if that’s something to be proud of..
DeleteEiww what a backward and small minded mindset 🤢 🤡 what a pathetic clown you are 🤮
DeleteAy achievement yan?
DeleteI don’t think that’s something to be proud of.
DeleteBakit kasi sa Pilipinas hindi paghiwalayin yung religion at legislation. Those are two separate entities. Long overdue na ito. To not pass the legislation based on religious affiliation is such a baseless logic. Not allowing divorce, yet tolerating adultery, cheating etc, just sounds ridiculous to me. People who are married but is eventually causing harm to the each other, to the point of abuse,be it physical, verbal, mental or emotional should be allowed to walk away and find their peace.
ReplyDeleteYung tito ko sa Japan ay kasal sa kanyang Japanese wife for 18 years. They are happily married with 3 kids. One happy family. Take note: may divorce sa bansang Japan.
ReplyDeleteYung tita ko naman sa Pinas ay hiwalay sa kanyang asawa for the last 16 years. They have one child na binata. Up to this day, sila ay kasal sa mata ng batas. They are married with conjugal rights. Hindi pwedeng bumili ng ari-arian ang isa kung wala yung pirma ng isa. Bawal mag-apply ng bank loan ang isa kung hindi pipirma yung isa. Wala na sila for 16 years pero hanggang ngayon ay nakatali pa rin sila sa isa't-isa.
My auntie is very happy with her single life while yung ex-husband naman niya ay masaya din sa buhay kasama ang kanyang life partner. Mayroon silang isang anak. That child is extra-marital and illegitimate kahit ang batang ito ay nabuo out of pagmamahal. The guy cannot marry her life partner because he is still married with my auntie.
Ano yung point ko?
First, the presence of divorce in Japan didn't ruin my uncle's family. Hindi totoo na wawasakin ng divorce ang maraming pamilya. Ang sisira sa isang pamilya ay yung mag-asawang involved. Yung dalawang tao. Hindi ang divorce law.
Second, kahit walang divorce sa Pilipinas, nasira pa rin ang pamilya ng tita ko dahil nagloko yung asawa niya. Meaning to say, kesyo may divorce o wala sa isang bansa, broken marriage and broken family will still exist. Kasi kung divorce pala ang wawasak sa isang pamilya, eh 'di sana walang hiwalayan sa bansang Pilipinas.
Divorce is not the problem.
Divorce is the solution to the problem.
Divorce doesn't break marriages and families.
Divorce fix the lives of the broken family.
Nilalagay nito sa ayos yung kapakanan ng mga bata at yung kapakanan nung dalawang matanda matapos masira ang kanilang pamilya.
Ayaw mo sa divorce because you are very happy with your married life? Then I'm very happy for you.
Pero hindi lahat ay pinalad kagaya mo.
Kaya huwag mo sanang ipagkait sa iba yung batas na magbibigay sa kanila ng bagong buhay.
XG
Syempre gusyo niya ng divorce. Di nag work out marriage nya e
ReplyDeletethere are better arguments than what she has posted... talk about taking a stand? she is standing on reasons other than hers... sawsaw with no effort, doesnt bring anything to the discussion.. haist!
ReplyDeleteBakit yung mga anti Divorce dito eh pro annulment naman? Mas ginagawa ngang joke ng annulment ang kasal because it nullifies the marriage. Treating it as if it never happened. So malinis na kayo nyan pag nagpa annul pero malaki kasalanan niyo sa Diyos pag nag divorce? WHAT A JOKE.
ReplyDeleteYung iba anti divorce pero pro annulment/legal separation? So tinetechnical niyo si Lord ganon? Patawa kayo. The hypocrisy at its finest.
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