Insta Scoop: Ellen Adarna on Being Confused with LGBT Pronouns, Activist Mela Habijan Responds, Actress Says Silent Majority Has Better Things to Do than Get a Masters/PhD in Pronouns
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True! Eh totoo naman eh. I too am confused. Tapos ganito they’re soo privileged and sensitive. Kaya nagkakaroon ng Toxic Woke ganitong bagay iyak agad.
Dapat tayo ang mag aadjust, dapat educate natin sarili natin otherwise we will be offending them kahit pa it was their choice to be who they want to be. Di na enough acceptance lang need to put them in the pedestal.
Not just straight people, I'm Bi and I hate these pronoun BS. It's getting more and more absurd so I stopped paying attention like everyone else kahit pa kasama ako sa LGBT group.
As a mom of grade schooler itong pinipilit nilang non binary pronouns ay mahirap iexplain sa mga bata. Life is complicated as it is please wag ng masyadong pahirapan ang mga bagay bagay
I feel you, sis. I feel you. No one dare say this because they know they’ll be attacked. And sorry, but ako ikaw siya are nonbinary? I don’t think so. It’s just a general term bilang walang katumbas na Filipino word ang him at her.
Yup, exactly. If you talk about this openly, you'll be attacked, and tagged as homophobic. Before you just call them gay. Now there's different terms, how do they know which of those they identify with? There's so many! They're confused and messed up. Old-school gay people walang ganyang ka-echosan.
Tama na yang problema sa pronouns jusmiyo naman. Si Jeffrey Star nga na openly gay, naririndi rin sa mga members na problemado sa pronouns nila. Maryosep.
Sa iba kasi isyu o problema yan. Di ba si Ice gusto he/him. Legit at wala naman malisya pagtatanong ni Ellen. Nakakalito talaga kung anong pantukoy na gagamitin
I'm with Ellen on this. It's utter nonsense. It's much much harder being in the U.S. and being a filipino, wala naman tayong he/she pronouns sa atin so for me, kahit I've been here for many years, i still make that mistake. And it's scary offending people. Unfortunately, we are rearing overly sensitive kids nowadays.
Im a nurse and we had a patient who just had a baby. One of my colleagues congratulated the patient on having a healthy baby boy. Ayun pinagalitan ng pasyente. Hahaha..Bakit daw sya ngdedecide na boy ang baby nya agad.
Nah. Just because some people find it stupid don’t mean they’re ignorant. They’re just to busy to care about stupid things like this. Using their/them is plain stupid and pathetic. Plural ang Their/them. Those people don’t want to be identified as he or she di ba? Why not use it instead?
Beh im part of lgbt but this whole pronoun thing is sooooo annoying!!! Everyone pushing this whole pronoun na akala mo ay napakalaking bagay na. Maiintindihan ko pa kung sa govt/legal doc or formal setting tyo pero ung basic days lang, qhy do we need to be soo press parin? Just say whatever pronoun you want and thats it. Rerespetuhin ka nman kung karesperespeto k nman. But if people is still rude to you despite u being respectful, eh wag ka na makipagbardalugan sa kanila becuz youre making things worse for you.
Hay nako ayan na naman kayo. Ignorant agad. Hindi lang nakikibagay sa delusions ng iba ignorant na. How about I don't think men cannot be women no matter how they identify? If I address you as a he that means you're male. Yun lang yun.
Even before the woke generation, ginagamit na ang they/them kapag hindi sure ang tao if ang kausap niya ay babae or lalaki. For example kapag kakaiba ang name or androgynous tignan ang tao, if di ka sure if trans or bioligical female sila, some people say "they." Pwede mo rin gamitin ang they kapag you're talking to a random person. Mahirap kasi sa Pinoy yung pang basic English lang ang alam.
Even Mo Twister na tumitira sa ibang bansa he uses the word they/them kahit isa lang ang tao.
Bakit bago lang eto sa karamihan? Magbasa po kayo ng maraming libro at manood ng series. Wag mag rely masyado sa conversational English.
Also, shoutout sa mga mamaru na nagsabing mali ang "we are pregnant." Hello, tama po yun. Despite the fact na iisa lang obviously ang pregnant (babae lang). They say that "we are pregnant" phrase to show support and claim that they in this together.
Re-watch niyo yung Love, Rosie na movie. Sabi ng babae, "Alex and I are pregnant."
Grabe nung ni-record ko ang scene na yun atsaka tinag ko ang kausap ko sa Tiktok, blinock niya ako. So in short, pahiya siya at yung Pinoy mostly ayaw sa correction.
1227 is actually correct. Anything genderless should be called it. Kaya nga ang baby kung baby pa lang at hindi pa alam gender, it ang tamang pronoun. Masyado lang maarte mga tao kasi tinumbas ang it sa animals and things.
It isn’t hard naman pala eh bakit pinipilit niyong gamitin ang their/them which is obviously plural? Ilang gender ba gusto niyo para sa sarili niyo, pito?
1:17 yung point mo is sablay naman. Marami na gumamit nyan to justify na pwedeng gamitin ang they them for one person. Yes pag truly unknown yung gusto mong tukuyin like let's say sa phone calls, nagagamit ang they. In that context, yung takbo ng usapan hindi naman confusing kasi alam ng both parties na unknown pa nga. Pero using they them specifically sa isang tao is just confusing. Example Juan is a new graduate. They are the valedictorian in their class. Kung sino man makabasa nito e mapapa huh?!?! Ako nga mismo naguluhan while typing it.
1:17 is correct and if you get it wrong just apologize and be considerate. It’s not something you just learn overnight. And it is being ignorant because ang dali nyo matuto ng slang words and pop culture word but when it comes to pronouns it’s too hard? The he/she/they pronoun is not that hard.
Ibang context naman yung tawagin mo na they/them ang random person. Problem is na o-offend yung mga pa woke if they are called a different pronoun na they do not identify themselves as. Useless na tawagin mo silang they/them if hindi ka sure sa gender and they identify as she/he. Ma a-accuse ka din na disrespectful and nag violate ng rights nila. Yes, language is evolving but biology ng male at female hindi sa terms/way na gusto nila. They do not need to shove their ideologies down other people's throats to get the respect they need.
1:17 kasing haba ng explanation mo na indi connected sa haba ng pangalan ng lgbtq+ and for sure dadagdagan nyo pa yan. Yes language is evolving but it depends on how popular it is used. You people keep shoving things into our throats it's choking us. Wag naman ganun. Baka mamya pati un gender sa french and german languages pakialaman nyo rin kasi feminine masculine at neuter lang yun.
1:17 -- I have a Ph.D in Applied Linguistics and you are not enccouraging what you call evolution of language. You are just an ENTITLED generation na lahat na lang nakaka offend.
1:17 Wag kang mamaru kasi nagbabasa rin ako ng libro. Language is evolving (and not in the way you're implying) but ethics and common sense remain the same. What you're doing is telling people that they are right to believe in their delusion. They are free to be gay pero to claim that they are actually women or men just because of their surgeries, etc., doesn't mean they actually are. Kayo dumadagdag sa mga mental health issues nila because you champion a make-believe that doesn't match reality. Pati nga pelvic bones natin magkaiba as men and women, surgeries nor hormones don't change that
Dear Mela, I'm poor but I'm trapped in rich person's body. Is diversity only limited to gender? That's NOT inclusive. How about race? How about those who were born filipino but are trapped in an american's body? Is that illogical? If you think so, then you're not being inclusive and it's also illogical that you're only limiting identities to gender only. And it offends people like me.
Di mo kami maloloko Jakilou B🤣 seriously bat naging OA tong si ADarna recently? Daming time sabagay rich wala man ginagawa Kaya Daming time sa SM 🤷🏻♀️
Wow! So brave Ellen to say out loud. Yung ibang celebrities kasi halatang nakikiagree na lang kasi takot mabash. Me too I have a lot of gay friends and tanggap nila na di sila girls and magiging girls and there are only 2 genders.
She is actually right… this pronouns are now becoming stupidly exaggerated… woke lgbtq whatever can sulk… my brother is gay but also does not use these pronouns and also doesn’t get angry when he is called as he.
I am with Ellen. It can be confusing. Not against about pronouns nor wanting to master the subject. Whenever I am meeting a person for the first time, we introduced ourselves with our names and that is it. No question ask. No judging. Just respect.
Confused din sila at nakakainis yung laging offensive kahit sabihin mong tama me sasabihin. Minsan Di ka rin aware , nawawala sa pronoun but it doesn’t mean I’m anti. Hirap sila suportahan gosh, lalo na s US Iba ang topic before you know it nakikipag debate na na di mo alam anung problema nila. THEY can eat their heart out then
Masyado kasi gusto pa-inclusive. Hindi lahat tanggap o nauunawaan na may iba liban sa lalaki at babae na kasarian. At wag kayo magsasabing dahil sarado ang isip. Kanya kanyang prinsipyo't pananaw yan. Walang pilitan.
It’s funny that they very people demanding tolerance and understanding are the most intolerant when you mis-gender someone. How do you expect people to understand when there are those that change their pronouns on a whim or even invent new terms?
Umay na umay na ko sa palaging offended at g na g mangcancel na mga tao, lalo na sa twitter. Simpleng pronouns, big deal. Yung mga ale sa palengke, gusto nyo din ba tanungin kayo, ano pronouns nyo bago kayo pagbentahan??? Di lahat may bandwidth umintindi sa preferences nyo. Di yan life and death.
I somewhat agree with Ms. Adarna. Why do we have to specify what particulars a gender has? Di ba pwedeng isang salita na lang for the entire LGBTQ+ Community (e.g. gay)? Kasi if we beed to be very specific, even among straight males and females maraming klase. Sa mga babae na lang--may girlie/kikay, may one of the boys, may girl next door type, etc. pero we all refer to them as straight girls. Just my 2 cents.
To be fair, nakakalito nga at kailangan mo pang alalahanin kung anong gamit ng bawat individual na pronoun. Pronoun nga eh, dapat generic, hindi customized!
Siguro oldie beks lang ako, di ko talaga bet at keri yan. Tagalugin na lang natin, gender neutral na by default!
Wait til you hear about Neo Pronouns na pinapauso ng LGBT ngayon. Btw I'm a gay man na nasa 40s na. Di ko na rin maintindihan what's happening with the LGBT community now, looks like napasok na sya ng mga Woke ideologies.
Totoo naman. Go forth and be what you are but sana gumawa na lang ng bagong pronouns kesa gamitin yung pre existing at gawing nakakalito yung language.
I agree with ellen. confusing naman talaga. gusto nila tanggapin sila but they do not know how to accept others. for religious reasons, merong iba na ayw gamitin ang pronoun coz it's against their belief, they too should be respected. if you're really convinced you're whatever gender, then it shouldn't matter what others think. bakit kelagnan isaksak sa ngala-ngala ng iba. kakaloka.
I’m one of those silent minority na natatawa na lang sa mga pauso ng Gen Z. Nonbinary, gender fluid, pronouns, genderqueer...what a load of BS! I feel sorry for the current and future generation who has to learn and be cautious of these pronouns or else they will be cancelled or bullied by lgbtq.
Mas may logic yung math kasi may set of rules na hindi naiiba. Use of these pronouns are breaking the rules of grammar kaya nakakalito. Wag nga nyang gamiting example ang pag aaral ng math.
Alam ko general term ang ako siya ikaw and not because it has something to do with nonbinary chuchu. Wala lang talagang Filipino word ang his her him she he.
Ellen was just plain honest that she is confused about the Non-binary pronouns. Mela didn't have to put a spotlight on that but she really had to make it such a big issue.
Tama nmn kasi siya sa totoo lang mnsan confuse dn ako kung anong itatawag ko sa isang member ng LGBT if mam or sir, ate or kuya na hnd mo sila maoofend.. pra skn kung hnd nmn bastos ang pagkaadress sayo eh hyaan nlng or icorrect mo nlng kung sa ano gusto mo.
I'm part of LGBTQ+, sana simplehan na lang natin ang buhay kesa makipaglaban ano tamang itawag. Lalo na if hirap din majority ng tao ano ba talaga. Di naman sila manghuhula. Mukha kang maton pero gusto mo tawag sayo ma'am. May friend ako pamin gusto din madam ang itawag. Faanuu? Ginawang manghuhula ang tao. Namamahiya pa pag di narinig yung gustong tawag. Hayyy.
I remember one of our patients. He is MALE technically and biologically haha pero naka maxi dress sya that time and fully made up. I called him "SIR" + his fullname because it was his turn for doctor's consult; and that's the way we call patients with Ma'am/Ms. or Sir/Mr. as our respect. Inirapan nya ko hahaha and as I do my assessment, I still call him Sir. Nagalit sya sakin and even said na sasampalin nya ko kakatawag ko ng Sir. Exact words were "Kanina ka pa Sir ng Sir ang bastos mo sasampalin na kita". Shocked ako pero tuloy lang sa work. Pero natawa din ako kasi yung doctor addressed him as SIR as well wala sya nagawa. Before he went out, I even said "Thank you, Mr.______". Kinwento ko sa doctor namin yung nangyari and for her, walang masama sa sinabi ko. She even advised me to file an Incident Report pero hindi ko na ginawa.
Si Demi Lovato nga sumuko na sa kaka explain ng they/them kaya binitawan na nya kaka correct when she's confessed na non-binary siya. Ano pa kaya yung mga natututong mag English? kaloka.
Ngee, kasi lagi namang nakikiuso yang si Demi. She was NEVER a part of them. May issues yan kaya ganyan, and I think most of the people into that pronoun nonsense are mostly nakiki-in lang. At babad sa social media.
Eh sa nakakalito namang talaga. Di naman issue ang pagiging lgbtq marami na din namang tanggap sila. Siguro para mas madali pag nagkamali icorrect na lang nang walang halong sarcasm o pagtataray o pag insulto sa nagkamali. Simple, wala nang pa statement na parang iisa lang ang natatanging representative ng buong lgbtq community. Minsan wala na sa lugar ang sensitivity eh.
Hindi dahil mali ang pronouns ay kabawasan sa pagkatao ha.
Totoo naman kasi. Ang simple ginawang complicated. Buti naman at walang gender yung pronouns natin dito sa Pinas. For so many years, the gay community fought for acceptance and respect. I believe nakuha na nila to. Compared to the 70s-90s, ang laki ng improvement. Kaso sumobra naman yung iba na pati pag gamit ng correct gender pronoun ay nagiging issue. The battle they've fought so hard might go down the drain.
kung anu anu nalang iniembento ng mga tao ngayon just to feel special. may unang nakaimbento ng isa hanggang sa lumabanap na sa buong mundo at pinaniwalaan na ng marami.
Just saying most of the older gen na members ng LGBTQ ay hindi mga insecure. The current gen, omg lahat issue, konting pitik offended, galit, biktima. Please. You're not helping your cause. Nakakawalang gana sa arte.
Buti pa to di takot sa mga lgbt yung iba kais takot ma cancel iba ang lgbt ngyaon pag di ka pabor sa gusto nila kuyugi ka tas sila tong naghahanap ng equality na sila namn ang ayaw magbigay sa iba gusto entitlement kadiri yung iba lalo na pag idamay mga bata
It's true though. And most who use complicated pronouns don't even bother to explain what their preferences are, basta2 na lang ma ooffend and will call you homophobic. I mean, kasalanan ba namin that we don't know your pronouns, aside from what is expected generally? Napaka sensitive ng ibang LGBT, but don't even respect other hetero genders' rights and spaces.
Agree ako kay ellen. Though i understand san nanggagaling ang lgbtq woke peeps, sana instead na they take offense e they help educate. Kasi naman babae lalaki dali malaman base sa ichura. E yun lgbtq pano ba malaman na they dapat diba. Magassume na lang kami? As long as may respeto ang pakikitungo sakanila, i think ok na yun, yun naman ang importante. Parang customs ng ibang bansa lang yan, may idea tayo pero d natin alam lahat kasi d tayo dun nakatira. D kami lgbtq so you cant expect alam namin lahat. Lets just treat each other with respect and understanding
Hate ko si Ellen pero plus points sya dito. They them used to refer to one person is just plain confusing. Sakit sa bangs yan. Grammatically wrong din. Tsaka kung feel mo boy, girl or whatever ka, entitled ka sa feeling na yan pero wag mo na kami idamay jan.
eh kaya naman pala daming nega dito sa mga posts, madami dito mga sarado utak at isip. grow up people, the world is evolving. you may feel stuck to the old outdated ways, but even sa science pabago bago. it is called evolution. Even sa child psychology, pabago bago yung alam ng mga tao. yun dati di na applicable even formula used to be touted as better than breastmilk but we now know better. you know if you want to stay ignorant go ahead. but it doesnt hurt to live outside of your own worlds. nobody knows me here so im mot doing this for popularity but nakakahiya kayo ang tatanda nyo na and youre stuck in your ways.every time you feel like sticking to your archaic ways of thinking isipin nyo uung mga kakilala nyo na mga lgbtqia who are really good human beings and hope it will be enough to unstuck you in your obsolete ways. akonlang ha, live and let live. if it relates to you, do it your way. if it relates to them, try to do it their way. sobrang hirap ba talaga? ymif youre a child gets ko, but none of us here are dumb idiots. we can upgrade our knowledge and humanities.
Granbeh si Ante, ginamit pa si Jefree Starr to prove her pointless argument. Ang ibig sabihin lang naman anteh, hwag mong dautin ang hindi mo naiintindihan and stop being their spokesperson hindi ka naman LGBTQIA++ , kung hindi mo naman Pala naiitindihan at confusing for you, wag mo basagin trip Nila by saying things about it publicly specially may platform ka.. ako straight, magulo then sa akin yan pero ano naman, trip Nila yan e. Hindi naman ako mababawasan kung ibinigay ko sa kanila yan. Hindi kailangan ng PhD, pag-unawa, sapat na. Respect, Sapat na.
AKO Rin , I’m so confused with all these different genders and pronouns. And then when you clarify it with members of the LGBtQ community, Iba Iba sila ng sagot. Sila mismo , hindi iisa ng sagot … Iba Iba ng definition. Hayy naku
Gusto ng LGBT na irespeto sila sa mga pronouns etc nila, pero ayaw nila i respeto ang ibang tao kung ano gusto nilang pronouns for them. Kung ano ano nalang ginagawa para mapansin.
Iyak nanaman tayo sa ganito. Hays. Eh totoo naman nakaka confuse. Sorry pero parang brats na ang dating ng iba and nasobrahan sa pagiging woke naging toxic na
Let them use whatever the heck pronouns they want to use and leave them alone. Life is too short to be bothered by people who are not directly a part of your lives, unless you’re a “Karen.” Geesh!
I am part of the LGBT pero I do agree with Ellen. Masyado tayong nag papa influence sa western culture. Pati mga gender ek ek iba iba na dati Girl Boy Bakla Tomboy lang
Actually, the ones who wants to be referred to as “they/them” probably has a multiple personality disorder because why would you want to be referred to in the plural form otherwise? It’s kind of scary.
Non binary pronouns pa pala yung ako,siya at ikaw. Eh naisip ko nga nuon buti pa sa Pinas walang female at male version yong nga yon. Ang dami nilang gusto. I am all for equal acceptance and treatment. Pero ang gusto nila mas may additional treatment sakanila
Its very confusing sa totoo lang. Obvious na obvious na people like these just want to feel special. Gusto nila may power sila over you, will threaten you with eskandalo and label you as homophobic just because hindi mo vinalidate ang delusions nila.
Nag accept naman tayo kung anong preference ng mga tao , lalaki ka pero pusong babae ka v/v. Pero tama naman si E na confusing naman talaga ung mga ++ hindi pa para problemahin ng mga tao. As long as nirerespect naman ang mga trip nyo sa buhay. I mean inclusive naman sa inyo pero minsan ang OA na gusto mangyare ng mga ito kaunting mag kamali ka kala mo aping api. P.S madami akong friends and relative na bisexual / gays at tanggap ko sila di sila balat sibuyas, hindi pa ipagbaradagulan kung ano man sila.
You can use whatever pronouns you want to use on yourself, but when you force me to use them so that it interrupts my way of communication with everybody else, then don’t get offended when I don’t acknowledge your way to validate your own feelings. Nobody owes you anything.
Use whatever pronouns you want for yourself, but don’t get offended if the majority of the population doesn’t bow down to your feelings. Life’s tough, get a helmet.
Parati na lang kayo triggerred. Lahat kme sa totoo lang confused na sa dme nyo labels. Sympre normal lang kse kinalakihan namen turo sa school saka turo sa bahay dba? Common sense dba? Wala naman tinuro sa school or ng mga magulang natin na na them/they ay oang pronoun nyo.. Plural yun ng mga tao dba??
I lived here sa US for 15 years and a lot of pinoys still get confused from using he/she but it’s not a big deal Pero ibang lgbtq maling pronouns lang, galit na galit. Di naman lahat ng tao alam na yun Yung pronouns na gusto mong itawag sayo.
Math has logic and rules. Logic is being taught in computer studies using binary, represented by 0 and 1. Non-binary of LGBTQ+, on the other hand, does not follow any rules as it depends on how “the person identifies,” which can change because it’s based on feelings. Therefore, non-binary is illogical. How then do you expect people to follow and learn something illogical and unstable? You’re human and have brains. Use it.
Ay naku pilipinas wag na kayo sumali sa mga pronouns kemerut ng Amerika. Sobrang hibang at super problematic ng mga lgbtqrst dito sa US. Iba pramis. Iba. Iba a g pinaglalaban nila hahaha
It’s true. The technicality of the word He and She originated from being a pronoun for Male and Female. However, the use of pronouns to describe someone’s gender identity is not as simple as that. The fact that majority here is adamant of any change means there is very little or no understanding of why this is so important for many members of the LGBTQIA. The fact that there is one prominent personality in the community that doesn’t support the use of pronoun does not invalidate it for the rest of the community. It would be nice if we can read on the reason behind. It is actually very eye opening. Remember, being kind, patient, and open to change does not have to end in mere words. Let’s try to do our part in trying to understand where this request is coming from. As for me, I know a lot of LGBTQIA has been shot, hanged, abandoned, and discriminated throughout history. If I can make it better for them by addressing them as to how they want it, I’d do it. It’s the very least that I can do to show kindness and love.
Louder please. I'm straight as an arrow but yes, I would do anything to lessen the hardships that the lgbtqia have already experienced. Being part of that community from the get-go ensure lots of ridicule and rejection. Do we need to add to them? Between choosing kindness or correctness, for me in this case, which affects a whole human being and the sense of well-being, choose kindness. I know so many good people from the lgbtqia, so many are better humans than many straight people to be honest, so I know where I stand on this. Probably their trials and tribulations have given them more compassion and an openness of mind that many straight people never had to learn.
Ang haba ng sinabi nya pero di naman nasabi ano ba ang tamang pronoun kasi confusing naman talaga. Or stick lang sa pag gay ay he, at pag lesbian ay she. di ko na nga din alam ano ba sila lesbian, gay or ano ba ang tamang term. Bakla at tomboy lang alam ko.
The lgbtqia+ community ang nagpapakomplikado ng buhay nila sa totoo lang. Maraming tao ang wala naman issue sa kung ano gender ng isang tao. I don't mind whether a person is a girl, a boy, etc.
wala din ako issue sa ibat ibang gender. siguro tricky lang na di mo alam agad pano tatawagin ang isang tao kasi di mo naman talaga alam at first glance ano sila
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ReplyDeleteI’m with you Ellen!
DeleteHonestly, if one is not on socmed and/or doesn't read the news, NO IDEA ka talaga with the latest pronouns na yan.
DeleteRespect rin sana nila ang tradition, straight, etc. Ang daming issues in life, uunahin pa ang pronouns?!
Finally me nagsalita din 👏👏
DeleteOh sana open minded din mga LGBT na yan opinion ng mga straight.
ReplyDeleteYes straight people have rights too.
DeleteFinally, Ellen and I have something so agree on l.
DeleteTrue! Eh totoo naman eh. I too am confused. Tapos ganito they’re soo privileged and sensitive. Kaya nagkakaroon ng Toxic Woke ganitong bagay iyak agad.
DeleteDapat tayo ang mag aadjust, dapat educate natin sarili natin otherwise we will be offending them kahit pa it was their choice to be who they want to be. Di na enough acceptance lang need to put them in the pedestal.
Deleteyup! wala kaming pake sa pronouns na yan.
DeleteNot just straight people, I'm Bi and I hate these pronoun BS. It's getting more and more absurd so I stopped paying attention like everyone else kahit pa kasama ako sa LGBT group.
DeleteAy soooo true 3:16
Deleteagree!
DeleteConfusing talaga yung they/them lalo pag nasa paragraph na.
ReplyDeleteAko naman wala akong paki da pronouns na pilit nilang binabago. Gawa sila sarili nilang dictionary
DeleteAs a mom of grade schooler itong pinipilit nilang non binary pronouns ay mahirap iexplain sa mga bata. Life is complicated as it is please wag ng masyadong pahirapan ang mga bagay bagay
DeleteTamaaaaa. Nabored ang mga tao nung pandemic. Kung anu anong naisip na pautot
DeleteThis 😂👏
DeleteI feel you, sis. I feel you. No one dare say this because they know they’ll be attacked. And sorry, but ako ikaw siya are nonbinary? I don’t think so. It’s just a general term bilang walang katumbas na Filipino word ang him at her.
ReplyDeleteYup, exactly. If you talk about this openly, you'll be attacked, and tagged as homophobic. Before you just call them gay. Now there's different terms, how do they know which of those they identify with? There's so many! They're confused and messed up. Old-school gay people walang ganyang ka-echosan.
Deleteyeah non binary is ridiculous!! this generation is ridiculous!! what i only know is SHE OR HE.
ReplyDeleteyes! confused sila tapos tayo idadamay
DeleteAgree!
Deletethis generation is the downfall of humanity
DeleteTama na yang problema sa pronouns jusmiyo naman. Si Jeffrey Star nga na openly gay, naririndi rin sa mga members na problemado sa pronouns nila. Maryosep.
ReplyDeleteSa iba kasi isyu o problema yan. Di ba si Ice gusto he/him. Legit at wala naman malisya pagtatanong ni Ellen. Nakakalito talaga kung anong pantukoy na gagamitin
DeleteSi Devi Lovato nga sumuko na din sa pakiki "they/them" e
DeleteI have gay friends, irita din sila sa mga pakulo ng LGBT community with all the pronouns. Masyadong entitled.
DeleteKaloka as in daming video na ganito na nasa restaurant tapos tatawagin na SIR mawawala! THEY daw dapat ang tawag sa kanya HA LOL
ReplyDeleteAno Yan? Isa isa lang yong body tapos maraming personality? Hahaha
DeleteNatawag na akong sir when I was sporting a pixie haircut. Di naman ako na offend, natawa lang ako
DeleteEllen’s not wrong.
ReplyDeleteI'm with Ellen on this. It's utter nonsense. It's much much harder being in the U.S. and being a filipino, wala naman tayong he/she pronouns sa atin so for me, kahit I've been here for many years, i still make that mistake. And it's scary offending people. Unfortunately, we are rearing overly sensitive kids nowadays.
ReplyDeleteIm a nurse and we had a patient who just had a baby. One of my colleagues congratulated the patient on having a healthy baby boy. Ayun pinagalitan ng pasyente. Hahaha..Bakit daw sya ngdedecide na boy ang baby nya agad.
DeleteIt’s not that hard to learn he/she/ they pronouns. Just say you’re ignorant and wants to stay ignorant.
ReplyDeletehahaha pag nasa mirriam diksyu na saka namin idadigest beks
Deletekaso madaming pronouns kasi at paiba iba
DeleteIt is hard because it’s not correct. He is for male, she is for female and they is for two or more persons
DeleteNah. Just because some people find it stupid don’t mean they’re ignorant. They’re just to busy to care about stupid things like this. Using their/them is plain stupid and pathetic. Plural ang Their/them. Those people don’t want to be identified as he or she di ba? Why not use it instead?
DeleteBeh im part of lgbt but this whole pronoun thing is sooooo annoying!!! Everyone pushing this whole pronoun na akala mo ay napakalaking bagay na. Maiintindihan ko pa kung sa govt/legal doc or formal setting tyo pero ung basic days lang, qhy do we need to be soo press parin? Just say whatever pronoun you want and thats it. Rerespetuhin ka nman kung karesperespeto k nman. But if people is still rude to you despite u being respectful, eh wag ka na makipagbardalugan sa kanila becuz youre making things worse for you.
DeleteHay nako ayan na naman kayo. Ignorant agad. Hindi lang nakikibagay sa delusions ng iba ignorant na. How about I don't think men cannot be women no matter how they identify? If I address you as a he that means you're male. Yun lang yun.
DeleteNgee, it's also easy not to ignore logic and biology.
DeleteYoure more ignorant for being entitled 11:44.
DeleteJust say you're entitled and wants to stay entitled.
DeleteDba yan naman yung sinabi niya? He or she lang????
Deletewoke alert 1144 LOL
DeleteEven before the woke generation, ginagamit na ang they/them kapag hindi sure ang tao if ang kausap niya ay babae or lalaki. For example kapag kakaiba ang name or androgynous tignan ang tao, if di ka sure if trans or bioligical female sila, some people say "they." Pwede mo rin gamitin ang they kapag you're talking to a random person. Mahirap kasi sa Pinoy yung pang basic English lang ang alam.
DeleteEven Mo Twister na tumitira sa ibang bansa he uses the word they/them kahit isa lang ang tao.
Bakit bago lang eto sa karamihan? Magbasa po kayo ng maraming libro at manood ng series. Wag mag rely masyado sa conversational English.
Also, shoutout sa mga mamaru na nagsabing mali ang "we are pregnant." Hello, tama po yun. Despite the fact na iisa lang obviously ang pregnant (babae lang). They say that "we are pregnant" phrase to show support and claim that they in this together.
Re-watch niyo yung Love, Rosie na movie. Sabi ng babae, "Alex and I are pregnant."
Grabe nung ni-record ko ang scene na yun atsaka tinag ko ang kausap ko sa Tiktok, blinock niya ako. So in short, pahiya siya at yung Pinoy mostly ayaw sa correction.
Language is evolving po. Just accept it.
1227 is actually correct. Anything genderless should be called it. Kaya nga ang baby kung baby pa lang at hindi pa alam gender, it ang tamang pronoun. Masyado lang maarte mga tao kasi tinumbas ang it sa animals and things.
DeleteIt isn’t hard naman pala eh bakit pinipilit niyong gamitin ang their/them which is obviously plural? Ilang gender ba gusto niyo para sa sarili niyo, pito?
Delete1:17 yung point mo is sablay naman. Marami na gumamit nyan to justify na pwedeng gamitin ang they them for one person. Yes pag truly unknown yung gusto mong tukuyin like let's say sa phone calls, nagagamit ang they. In that context, yung takbo ng usapan hindi naman confusing kasi alam ng both parties na unknown pa nga. Pero using they them specifically sa isang tao is just confusing. Example Juan is a new graduate. They are the valedictorian in their class. Kung sino man makabasa nito e mapapa huh?!?! Ako nga mismo naguluhan while typing it.
DeleteIt's not hard BUT I CHOOSE to "learn" what's right. Otherwise, it is NOT learning.
DeleteSabi nga ng lola ko, daming nonsense sa mundong toh. Tapos dadagdag pa ako sa mga nonsense?? Wag na!!
1:17 is correct and if you get it wrong just apologize and be considerate. It’s not something you just learn overnight. And it is being ignorant because ang dali nyo matuto ng slang words and pop culture word but when it comes to pronouns it’s too hard? The he/she/they pronoun is not that hard.
Delete@1:17 mag-eeffort mga tawo para gumaan loob mo? yan ba dahilan pinanganak kami ng magulang namin?
Deleteim an lgbtq pero totoo may proper use ng pronoun. kung ayaw ng mga kabaro kung matawag na he or she eh d tawagin syang it! duh ang aarte!
DeleteLer's keep it simple.
DeleteLalaki - he
Babae - she
Di Tiyak o bagay - it
2 or more - they
Done!
Ibang context naman yung tawagin mo na they/them ang random person. Problem is na o-offend yung mga pa woke if they are called a different pronoun na they do not identify themselves as. Useless na tawagin mo silang they/them if hindi ka sure sa gender and they identify as she/he. Ma a-accuse ka din na disrespectful and nag violate ng rights nila. Yes, language is evolving but biology ng male at female hindi sa terms/way na gusto nila. They do not need to shove their ideologies down other people's throats to get the respect they need.
Delete1:17 , pano mo sasabihin in English ito using they/them for a single/one person.
Delete"He/She has been good to me" .
Isang tao lang tinu-tukoy mo ha. Pero gagamitin mo ang they/them kasi ayaw ng tao na yon ang he/she para sakanya.
1:17 kasing haba ng explanation mo na indi connected sa haba ng pangalan ng lgbtq+ and for sure dadagdagan nyo pa yan. Yes language is evolving but it depends on how popular it is used. You people keep shoving things into our throats it's choking us. Wag naman ganun. Baka mamya pati un gender sa french and german languages pakialaman nyo rin kasi feminine masculine at neuter lang yun.
Delete1:17 -- I have a Ph.D in Applied Linguistics and you are not enccouraging what you call evolution of language. You are just an ENTITLED generation na lahat na lang nakaka offend.
Delete1:17 Wag kang mamaru kasi nagbabasa rin ako ng libro. Language is evolving (and not in the way you're implying) but ethics and common sense remain the same. What you're doing is telling people that they are right to believe in their delusion. They are free to be gay pero to claim that they are actually women or men just because of their surgeries, etc., doesn't mean they actually are. Kayo dumadagdag sa mga mental health issues nila because you champion a make-believe that doesn't match reality. Pati nga pelvic bones natin magkaiba as men and women, surgeries nor hormones don't change that
DeleteThey is just a plura word for more than 1 person. Lokohin mo lelang mo
Deleteshe’s not wrong
ReplyDeletejusko ayan na naman yung mela na pa main character lagi.
ReplyDeletenot everyone can go along with your delusions! tama lang si ellen
At sana inexplain ni Mela yung confusing topic instead of paawa and compassion chuva.
DeleteEh kahit nga sila confused sila at pabago bago
ReplyDeleteparang pokemon lang ng eevolve hehe.
DeleteBrava Ellen!
ReplyDeleteBut in tagalog wala naman pronouns yan. Its just a western thing
ReplyDeleteSiya. Sila. Kami. Kanya.
DeleteMatagal nang walang gender ang filipino pronouns.
Louder Ellen. I never liked her pero she’s one of those few celebrities na walang filter magsalita and I respect her for just being herself.
ReplyDeleteWe’ve got 99 problems and pronouns aint one
ReplyDeletethis!!!
DeleteDear Mela, I'm poor but I'm trapped in rich person's body. Is diversity only limited to gender? That's NOT inclusive. How about race? How about those who were born filipino but are trapped in an american's body? Is that illogical? If you think so, then you're not being inclusive and it's also illogical that you're only limiting identities to gender only. And it offends people like me.
ReplyDeleteAccla, di nila gusto yung logic. Allergic sila dun
DeleteMy pronouns are broke and poor. Charot!
Delete12:36 ahahahahhaha!
DeleteDi mo kami maloloko Jakilou B🤣 seriously bat naging OA tong si ADarna recently? Daming time sabagay rich wala man ginagawa Kaya Daming time sa SM 🤷🏻♀️
ReplyDeleteSi Ellen pa talaga ang OA huh?
DeleteKelan ka lng ba nagka-socmed? Matagal nya na ginagawa yan. Ilang taon na.
Delete12:53 eh ewan syo
DeleteYour comment does not make any little sense
DeleteSuper Fan na ako ni Beautiful Ellen Adarna Ramsay! I agree wirh everything she said!
ReplyDeleteme too anon 11:53pm
DeleteWow! So brave Ellen to say out loud. Yung ibang celebrities kasi halatang nakikiagree na lang kasi takot mabash. Me too I have a lot of gay friends and tanggap nila na di sila girls and magiging girls and there are only 2 genders.
ReplyDeleteShe is actually right… this pronouns are now becoming stupidly exaggerated… woke lgbtq whatever can sulk… my brother is gay but also does not use these pronouns and also doesn’t get angry when he is called as he.
ReplyDeleteGood thing she's not ”woke"!
ReplyDeleteshe sounds so ignorant. It's basic english.
ReplyDeletehahaha American or British English? Lol
DeleteYou are delusional if you think Ellen is wrong
DeleteHa?????
Deletemight be a basic english, but exaggerated pronouns na talaga ang ginagamit and minemeant
Deleteyan ang laban ng mga accla, yung ignorant thing. heller, buti na lang di ako confused sa gender ko.
Delete11:56 Since when naging basic English yan when tied to a dangerous ideology?
DeleteI am with Ellen. It can be confusing. Not against about pronouns nor wanting to master the subject. Whenever I am meeting a person for the first time, we introduced ourselves with our names and that is it. No question ask. No judging. Just respect.
ReplyDeleteconfusing naman na talaga. kulang na lang pati yung 'it' gamitin na rin
ReplyDeleteConfused din sila at nakakainis yung laging offensive kahit sabihin mong tama me sasabihin. Minsan Di ka rin aware , nawawala sa pronoun but it doesn’t mean I’m anti. Hirap sila suportahan gosh, lalo na s US Iba ang topic before you know it nakikipag debate na na di mo alam anung problema nila. THEY can eat their heart out then
DeleteBanks as US gunagamit Yan haha
Delete🤣
DeleteAy ako I call them it hahahahahaha
DeleteAgree on Ellen. Isa pa no direct translation sa English ang word na SYA
ReplyDeleteOA na masyado yung mga Lgbtq+++ ang daming names nakakalito talaga
ReplyDeleteMasyado kasi gusto pa-inclusive. Hindi lahat tanggap o nauunawaan na may iba liban sa lalaki at babae na kasarian.
DeleteAt wag kayo magsasabing dahil sarado ang isip. Kanya kanyang prinsipyo't pananaw yan. Walang pilitan.
It’s funny that they very people demanding tolerance and understanding are the most intolerant when you mis-gender someone. How do you expect people to understand when there are those that change their pronouns on a whim or even invent new terms?
ReplyDeleteSa true naman na napakadami. Nito ko nga lang nalaman na may hard butch pang tinatawag. Di lang talaga updated ang ibang tao.
ReplyDeleteUmay na umay na ko sa palaging offended at g na g mangcancel na mga tao, lalo na sa twitter. Simpleng pronouns, big deal. Yung mga ale sa palengke, gusto nyo din ba tanungin kayo, ano pronouns nyo bago kayo pagbentahan??? Di lahat may bandwidth umintindi sa preferences nyo. Di yan life and death.
ReplyDeleteI somewhat agree with Ms. Adarna. Why do we have to specify what particulars a gender has? Di ba pwedeng isang salita na lang for the entire LGBTQ+ Community (e.g. gay)? Kasi if we beed to be very specific, even among straight males and females maraming klase. Sa mga babae na lang--may girlie/kikay, may one of the boys, may girl next door type, etc. pero we all refer to them as straight girls. Just my 2 cents.
ReplyDeleteThis!!!
DeleteI'm with ellen kelan ba naging them/they isang tao... what the f does it mean..
ReplyDeleteWe were taught at school na They/Them = more than 1 person. I pity the new generation.
DeleteSorry, but I agree with Ellen.
ReplyDeleteAnd here, as an academic, I agree with you Ellen. This is politicized to the detriment of traditional values and common sense.
ReplyDeleteI'm with Ellen on this!!!
ReplyDeleteKadalasan talaga sa ibang LGBT chuchu, mga pa-special, masyadong entitled!
ReplyDeleteEXACTLY. Co-existent na lang.
DeleteGusto pa kasi pa-special breed
yung xie parang kapanahunan panng jeje text. xie_m4ldit4H08 😂
ReplyDeletesquammy alert
DeleteDi ko kinaya si accla, hahaha!
ReplyDeleteTo be fair, nakakalito nga at kailangan mo pang alalahanin kung anong gamit ng bawat individual na pronoun. Pronoun nga eh, dapat generic, hindi customized!
Siguro oldie beks lang ako, di ko talaga bet at keri yan. Tagalugin na lang natin, gender neutral na by default!
aysus hehe oh Sige na nga imememorize na namin baka kasali sa ielts
ReplyDeleteWait til you hear about Neo Pronouns na pinapauso ng LGBT ngayon. Btw I'm a gay man na nasa 40s na. Di ko na rin maintindihan what's happening with the LGBT community now, looks like napasok na sya ng mga Woke ideologies.
ReplyDeleteAgree with Ellen. And bilib ako kasi nasabi nya, unlike other celebs na silent na lang kasi takot ma-bash.
ReplyDeleteI just love her!!!
ReplyDeleteTotoo naman. Go forth and be what you are but sana gumawa na lang ng bagong pronouns kesa gamitin yung pre existing at gawing nakakalito yung language.
ReplyDeleteI agree with ellen. confusing naman talaga. gusto nila tanggapin sila but they do not know how to accept others. for religious reasons, merong iba na ayw gamitin ang pronoun coz it's against their belief, they too should be respected. if you're really convinced you're whatever gender, then it shouldn't matter what others think. bakit kelagnan isaksak sa ngala-ngala ng iba. kakaloka.
ReplyDeleteAgree with Ellen 100%.
ReplyDeleteI’m one of those silent minority na natatawa na lang sa mga pauso ng Gen Z. Nonbinary, gender fluid, pronouns, genderqueer...what a load of BS! I feel sorry for the current and future generation who has to learn and be cautious of these pronouns or else they will be cancelled or bullied by lgbtq.
ReplyDeletemy thoughts exactly
DeleteMas may logic yung math kasi may set of rules na hindi naiiba. Use of these pronouns are breaking the rules of grammar kaya nakakalito. Wag nga nyang gamiting example ang pag aaral ng math.
ReplyDeleteAlam ko general term ang ako siya ikaw and not because it has something to do with nonbinary chuchu. Wala lang talagang Filipino word ang his her him she he.
ReplyDeleteHala! Ellen lagot ka! may mag-rereact niyan haha
ReplyDeleteHe, she at it lang ang alam ko. Sobra bang nakakawala ng pagkatao kung di yon ang gamitin? Nakakagulo ng english 101 yang kaartehan na yan.
ReplyDeleteEllen was just plain honest that she is confused about the Non-binary pronouns. Mela didn't have to put a spotlight on that but she really had to make it such a big issue.
ReplyDeleteDapat humiwalay na ang lgb sa tq+ sa totoo lang.
ReplyDeleteTama nmn kasi siya sa totoo lang mnsan confuse dn ako kung anong itatawag ko sa isang member ng LGBT if mam or sir, ate or kuya na hnd mo sila maoofend.. pra skn kung hnd nmn bastos ang pagkaadress sayo eh hyaan nlng or icorrect mo nlng kung sa ano gusto mo.
ReplyDeleteI'm part of LGBTQ+, sana simplehan na lang natin ang buhay kesa makipaglaban ano tamang itawag. Lalo na if hirap din majority ng tao ano ba talaga. Di naman sila manghuhula. Mukha kang maton pero gusto mo tawag sayo ma'am. May friend ako pamin gusto din madam ang itawag. Faanuu? Ginawang manghuhula ang tao. Namamahiya pa pag di narinig yung gustong tawag. Hayyy.
ReplyDeleteI remember one of our patients. He is MALE technically and biologically haha pero naka maxi dress sya that time and fully made up. I called him "SIR" + his fullname because it was his turn for doctor's consult; and that's the way we call patients with Ma'am/Ms. or Sir/Mr. as our respect. Inirapan nya ko hahaha and as I do my assessment, I still call him Sir. Nagalit sya sakin and even said na sasampalin nya ko kakatawag ko ng Sir. Exact words were "Kanina ka pa Sir ng Sir ang bastos mo sasampalin na kita". Shocked ako pero tuloy lang sa work. Pero natawa din ako kasi yung doctor addressed him as SIR as well wala sya nagawa. Before he went out, I even said "Thank you, Mr.______". Kinwento ko sa doctor namin yung nangyari and for her, walang masama sa sinabi ko. She even advised me to file an Incident Report pero hindi ko na ginawa.
DeleteSi Demi Lovato nga sumuko na sa kaka explain ng they/them kaya binitawan na nya kaka correct when she's confessed na non-binary siya. Ano pa kaya yung mga natututong mag English? kaloka.
ReplyDeleteNgee, kasi lagi namang nakikiuso yang si Demi. She was NEVER a part of them. May issues yan kaya ganyan, and I think most of the people into that pronoun nonsense are mostly nakiki-in lang. At babad sa social media.
DeleteEh sa nakakalito namang talaga. Di naman issue ang pagiging lgbtq marami na din namang tanggap sila. Siguro para mas madali pag nagkamali icorrect na lang nang walang halong sarcasm o pagtataray o pag insulto sa nagkamali. Simple, wala nang pa statement na parang iisa lang ang natatanging representative ng buong lgbtq community. Minsan wala na sa lugar ang sensitivity eh.
ReplyDeleteHindi dahil mali ang pronouns ay kabawasan sa pagkatao ha.
Totoo naman kasi. Ang simple ginawang complicated. Buti naman at walang gender yung pronouns natin dito sa Pinas. For so many years, the gay community fought for acceptance and respect. I believe nakuha na nila to. Compared to the 70s-90s, ang laki ng improvement. Kaso sumobra naman yung iba na pati pag gamit ng correct gender pronoun ay nagiging issue. The battle they've fought so hard might go down the drain.
ReplyDelete1:08 Kaya nga sa US mag movement na LGB without the T. Mga trans lang naman sumisira sa movement nila eh
DeleteWell said, Ellen.
ReplyDeleteMeron pa fae pronoun. Why can’t fae just stick to she/her 🤣
ReplyDeletekung anu anu nalang iniembento ng mga tao ngayon just to feel special. may unang nakaimbento ng isa hanggang sa lumabanap na sa buong mundo at pinaniwalaan na ng marami.
ReplyDeleteThey/them should put a nametag for people to know how to address them
ReplyDeleteThese terms are really confusing and in my opinion , they don't make sense. I totally agree with Ellen.
ReplyDeleteJust saying most of the older gen na members ng LGBTQ ay hindi mga insecure. The current gen, omg lahat issue, konting pitik offended, galit, biktima. Please. You're not helping your cause. Nakakawalang gana sa arte.
ReplyDeleteButi pa to di takot sa mga lgbt yung iba kais takot ma cancel iba ang lgbt ngyaon pag di ka pabor sa gusto nila kuyugi ka tas sila tong naghahanap ng equality na sila namn ang ayaw magbigay sa iba gusto entitlement kadiri yung iba lalo na pag idamay mga bata
ReplyDeleteIt's true though. And most who use complicated pronouns don't even bother to explain what their preferences are, basta2 na lang ma ooffend and will call you homophobic. I mean, kasalanan ba namin that we don't know your pronouns, aside from what is expected generally? Napaka sensitive ng ibang LGBT, but don't even respect other hetero genders' rights and spaces.
ReplyDeleteAgree ako kay ellen. Though i understand san nanggagaling ang lgbtq woke peeps, sana instead na they take offense e they help educate. Kasi naman babae lalaki dali malaman base sa ichura. E yun lgbtq pano ba malaman na they dapat diba. Magassume na lang kami? As long as may respeto ang pakikitungo sakanila, i think ok na yun, yun naman ang importante. Parang customs ng ibang bansa lang yan, may idea tayo pero d natin alam lahat kasi d tayo dun nakatira. D kami lgbtq so you cant expect alam namin lahat. Lets just treat each other with respect and understanding
ReplyDeleteSa restaurant kapg waiter ka mas mahirap matawag mong SIR si Maam. 😭
ReplyDeleteHate ko si Ellen pero plus points sya dito. They them used to refer to one person is just plain confusing. Sakit sa bangs yan. Grammatically wrong din. Tsaka kung feel mo boy, girl or whatever ka, entitled ka sa feeling na yan pero wag mo na kami idamay jan.
ReplyDeleteThey will attend. And if you ask, how many They? Just One. What?! 🥴
ReplyDeleteDami defensive ah. Language evolves.
ReplyDeleteeh kaya naman pala daming nega dito sa mga posts, madami dito mga sarado utak at isip. grow up people, the world is evolving. you may feel stuck to the old outdated ways, but even sa science pabago bago. it is called evolution. Even sa child psychology, pabago bago yung alam ng mga tao. yun dati di na applicable even formula used to be touted as better than breastmilk but we now know better. you know if you want to stay ignorant go ahead. but it doesnt hurt to live outside of your own worlds. nobody knows me here so im mot doing this for popularity but nakakahiya kayo ang tatanda nyo na and youre stuck in your ways.every time you feel like sticking to your archaic ways of thinking isipin nyo uung mga kakilala nyo na mga lgbtqia who are really good human beings and hope it will be enough to unstuck you in your obsolete ways. akonlang ha, live and let live. if it relates to you, do it your way. if it relates to them, try to do it their way. sobrang hirap ba talaga? ymif youre a child gets ko, but none of us here are dumb idiots. we can upgrade our knowledge and humanities.
ReplyDeleteBravo ellen!!
ReplyDeleteGranbeh si Ante, ginamit pa si Jefree Starr to prove her pointless argument. Ang ibig sabihin lang naman anteh, hwag mong dautin ang hindi mo naiintindihan and stop being their spokesperson hindi ka naman LGBTQIA++ , kung hindi mo naman Pala naiitindihan at confusing for you, wag mo basagin trip Nila by saying things about it publicly specially may platform ka.. ako straight, magulo then sa akin yan pero ano naman, trip Nila yan e. Hindi naman ako mababawasan kung ibinigay ko sa kanila yan. Hindi kailangan ng PhD, pag-unawa, sapat na. Respect, Sapat na.
ReplyDeleteThey want people to treat them as normal but they always want make people feel that they’re special.
ReplyDeleteAKO Rin , I’m so confused with all these different genders and pronouns. And then when you clarify it with members of the LGBtQ community, Iba Iba sila ng sagot. Sila mismo , hindi iisa ng sagot … Iba Iba ng definition. Hayy naku
ReplyDeleteGusto ng LGBT na irespeto sila sa mga pronouns etc nila, pero ayaw nila i respeto ang ibang tao kung ano gusto nilang pronouns for them. Kung ano ano nalang ginagawa para mapansin.
ReplyDeleteAng Aarte! She and He lang, tapos!
ReplyDeleteIyak nanaman tayo sa ganito. Hays. Eh totoo naman nakaka confuse. Sorry pero parang brats na ang dating ng iba and nasobrahan sa pagiging woke naging toxic na
ReplyDeleteLet them use whatever the heck pronouns they want to use and leave them alone.
ReplyDeleteLife is too short to be bothered by people who are not directly a part of your lives, unless you’re a “Karen.”
Geesh!
My take too. E san yun preferred nila e
Delete23:37AM, you do the same! If we want to use the right pronoun, like she for a girl, and he for a boy! If you think you have rights, so as we! Gets?
DeleteI am part of the LGBT pero I do agree with Ellen. Masyado tayong nag papa influence sa western culture. Pati mga gender ek ek iba iba na dati Girl Boy Bakla Tomboy lang
ReplyDeleteActually, the ones who wants to be referred to as “they/them” probably has a multiple personality disorder because why would you want to be referred to in the plural form otherwise? It’s kind of scary.
ReplyDeleteyup! kc they’re confused. i pity them. life’s short, why complicate things. maryosep.
DeleteAttention seeker
DeleteTrue
DeleteAnong logic logic? Kinumpara pa sa math jusko!
ReplyDeletePaano kung wala nMan kaming paki sa mga terms ng lgbtq at tamad kaming imemorize mga dapat itawag sainyo? Gusto lang namin mabuhay ng matiwasay?
ReplyDeleteNon binary pronouns pa pala yung ako,siya at ikaw. Eh naisip ko nga nuon buti pa sa Pinas walang female at male version yong nga yon. Ang dami nilang gusto. I am all for equal acceptance and treatment. Pero ang gusto nila mas may additional treatment sakanila
ReplyDeleteSuper BASED Ellen. I love her!
ReplyDeleteIts very confusing sa totoo lang. Obvious na obvious na people like these just want to feel special. Gusto nila may power sila over you, will threaten you with eskandalo and label you as homophobic just because hindi mo vinalidate ang delusions nila.
ReplyDeleteRamdam ko si Ellen. Daming eme. Kailangan ba na grammar pa ang magadjust. Jusme lalo lang pinagulo at pinahirapan yung mga bata sa school.
ReplyDeleteNag accept naman tayo kung anong preference ng mga tao , lalaki ka pero pusong babae ka v/v. Pero tama naman si E na confusing naman talaga ung mga ++ hindi pa para problemahin ng mga tao. As long as nirerespect naman ang mga trip nyo sa buhay. I mean inclusive naman sa inyo pero minsan ang OA na gusto mangyare ng mga ito kaunting mag kamali ka kala mo aping api. P.S madami akong friends and relative na bisexual / gays at tanggap ko sila di sila balat sibuyas, hindi pa ipagbaradagulan kung ano man sila.
ReplyDelete- I agree wit ellen. I admire her for being brave.
ReplyDeleteSo pano kung nagiisa lang si accla, they/them prn ba ang gagamitin na pronoun? Bakit di nyo pa add sa curriculum ng deped yan para wala kayong hanash!
ReplyDeleteBasta ang alam ko, if neither male dor female, IT dapat. Josko pa they/them pa nalalaman, it na lang
ReplyDeleteAgree Ellen.
ReplyDeleteNag iba gd ata face niya
You can use whatever pronouns you want to use on yourself, but when you force me to use them so that it interrupts my way of communication with everybody else, then don’t get offended when I don’t acknowledge your way to validate your own feelings. Nobody owes you anything.
ReplyDeleteUse whatever pronouns you want for yourself, but don’t get offended if the majority of the population doesn’t bow down to your feelings. Life’s tough, get a helmet.
ReplyDeleteforcing others to pander to your beliefs is not a positive experience.
ReplyDeleteParati na lang kayo triggerred. Lahat kme sa totoo lang confused na sa dme nyo labels. Sympre normal lang kse kinalakihan namen turo sa school saka turo sa bahay dba? Common sense dba? Wala naman tinuro sa school or ng mga magulang natin na na them/they ay oang pronoun nyo.. Plural yun ng mga tao dba??
ReplyDeleteJusko kay talo lagi sa eleksyon yang mela na yan
ReplyDeleteI lived here sa US for 15 years and a lot of pinoys still get confused from using he/she but it’s not a big deal Pero ibang lgbtq maling pronouns lang, galit na galit. Di naman lahat ng tao alam na yun Yung pronouns na gusto mong itawag sayo.
ReplyDeleteMath has logic and rules. Logic is being taught in computer studies using binary, represented by 0 and 1. Non-binary of LGBTQ+, on the other hand, does not follow any rules as it depends on how “the person identifies,” which can change because it’s based on feelings. Therefore, non-binary is illogical. How then do you expect people to follow and learn something illogical and unstable? You’re human and have brains. Use it.
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DeleteAy naku pilipinas wag na kayo sumali sa mga pronouns kemerut ng Amerika. Sobrang hibang at super problematic ng mga lgbtqrst dito sa US. Iba pramis. Iba. Iba a g pinaglalaban nila hahaha
ReplyDeleteThanks for verbalizing, Ellen.
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ReplyDeleteShe’s a dropout who couldn’t even finish a basic 4 year college course 🤷🏻♂️
Ang gulo talaga nitong mga LGBTQ palaging kailangang mag adjust sa feelings nila!
ReplyDeleteConfused lang sa pronouns anti lgbtq na? Minsan mga tao hindi na nag-iisip, gusto lang nila magalit agad.
ReplyDeleteIt’s true. The technicality of the word He and She originated from being a pronoun for Male and Female. However, the use of pronouns to describe someone’s gender identity is not as simple as that. The fact that majority here is adamant of any change means there is very little or no understanding of why this is so important for many members of the LGBTQIA. The fact that there is one prominent personality in the community that doesn’t support the use of pronoun does not invalidate it for the rest of the community. It would be nice if we can read on the reason behind. It is actually very eye opening. Remember, being kind, patient, and open to change does not have to end in mere words. Let’s try to do our part in trying to understand where this request is coming from. As for me, I know a lot of LGBTQIA has been shot, hanged, abandoned, and discriminated throughout history. If I can make it better for them by addressing them as to how they want it, I’d do it. It’s the very least that I can do to show kindness and love.
ReplyDeleteLouder please. I'm straight as an arrow but yes, I would do anything to lessen the hardships that the lgbtqia have already experienced. Being part of that community from the get-go ensure lots of ridicule and rejection. Do we need to add to them? Between choosing kindness or correctness, for me in this case, which affects a whole human being and the sense of well-being, choose kindness. I know so many good people from the lgbtqia, so many are better humans than many straight people to be honest, so I know where I stand on this. Probably their trials and tribulations have given them more compassion and an openness of mind that many straight people never had to learn.
Deletebwisit ka din dami ng term katauhan nila.hahahah
ReplyDeletego ellen
ReplyDeleteAng haba ng sinabi nya pero di naman nasabi ano ba ang tamang pronoun kasi confusing naman talaga. Or stick lang sa pag gay ay he, at pag lesbian ay she. di ko na nga din alam ano ba sila lesbian, gay or ano ba ang tamang term. Bakla at tomboy lang alam ko.
ReplyDeleteThe lgbtqia+ community ang nagpapakomplikado ng buhay nila sa totoo lang. Maraming tao ang wala naman issue sa kung ano gender ng isang tao. I don't mind whether a person is a girl, a boy, etc.
ReplyDeletewala din ako issue sa ibat ibang gender. siguro tricky lang na di mo alam agad pano tatawagin ang isang tao kasi di mo naman talaga alam at first glance ano sila
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