Hindi pwedeng ikumpara ang pagmamahal ng magulang at kapatid. Magkaiba.
Just because close siya sa mga kapatid nyang trans hindi ibig sabihin na hindi mabuting magulang si Izzy. Napaka sawsawera. Gawa ka din sarili mong issue girl para hindi ka sakay ng sakay sa issue ng iba.
Sinong nagbigay ng karapatan sa kanya o kay Ogie o kahit kaninong tao na pakialaman yung values and beliefs ng ibang magulang? Good for Izzy for staying firm with what she believes in, and for Andrei in doing what makes him happy. Alam kong dadating yung time na mapapatawad at matatanggap nilang mag-ina yung isa’t isa.
When you post something in social media, you automatically give others the right to make sawsaw. If ayae makialam ang iba, keep your affairs private. Simple lang.
12:24 eh ikaw, sino naman ang nagbigay ng karapatan sa iyo na pakialaman na magbigay sila ng opinyon sa isang issue na naka-public? pare-pareho lang tayong mga tsismosa na may kanya-kanyang opinyon kaya magbasa ka lang at huwag mag-question sa ginagawa ng iba na ginagawa mo rin.
12:24 by making your post, nakisawsaw ka na din. stop gatekeeping other's opinions. palibhasa yung inabugbog sa social media kasi Kristiyano kuno pero di matanggap ang anak porke ibang landas ang pinili. anong klaseng magulang yan?
I agree with you @12:24. Religious belief ng nanay yun , we have to respect that. A mother will always love their kids pero hindi ibig sabihin we will change our values and faith just to prove that will love them. Yun kaibigan ko , tibo ang anak , may kinakasamang babae. She supports them and helps when ever they need help like financial support or support to market their business, goes out with them for dinner and etc pero she still reminds them what they’re doing is not right ( based on her beliefs, based on what she reads in the Bible). That doesn’t make her a hypocrite or a bad Mom.
12:24 wala namang may pake sa beliefs ni izzy, siya lang tong kumuda sa social media. you are a PARENT you should know better na sa ganitong ways hindi maayos yung misunderstanding niyo ng anak mo.
Ganyan talaga pag inopen na, dami na makikisawsaw and mangengelam like us. Social media era. If u dont want na may makisawsaw, dont post or make public.
12:59 goes out with them dinner to remind them what they're doing is not right? wow! the daughter doesn't need to go to hell because your friend is already giving her hell. and that's not love!
12:30 no! nobody has the right na makisawsaw just because it’s posted in social media. hirap sa mga tao ngayon feeling entitled masyado sa buhay ng iba porket may nabasa lang na post.
@ 1:27 am I think you misunderstood my point. Hindi ko sinasabi na nakikipagdinner siya parA sermonan ang anak niya at gf nito. Why would she do that while they’re having dinner ? Eh di nasira ang dinner nilaš¤¦♀️? My point it is she didn’t shun them , siya pa nga nagpakilala sa buong family niya yun karelasyon ng anak niya, they have a United front, no one would dare say anything against her daughter or gf nito or else siya yun una makakalaban. She and her daughter has a good relationship pero like any other parent hindi pa rin siya nagkukulang ng paalala . They both respect each other. Pati na rin yun partner/gf she has high respect for my friend. They understand where she’s coming from . My friend also knows , that all she can do is to only give advice and reminders. At the end of the day , they’re both consenting adults and they have the right to do what they want to do.
Si Izzy po kasi pinost nya in public. Kalokang Nanay, maiflaunt lang na maka diyos binandera pa problema nila ng anak nya. Nasobrahan sa pagiging influencer keme.
She's a fake christian. Ang totoomg christian kahit i-crucify o stone pa maninindigan sa commands and decrees ni God. Hindi babaliin ang nakasulat sa scriptures for humans satisfaction. One time may pinost pa sila ng friend nya while nasa kotse sila i just cant remenber if pinag tatawanan ba nila or inaway yung isang tao and take note nagba bile study pa yan sila. So wala talaga akong bilib kay RR, she is a disgrace to christianity. Sana wag na nya ipagkalat na christian sya kasi maraming matitino na nadadamay, hindi naman lahat ng christian ay hypocrite. Meron din mga totoo. Bawal nga ang makichismis sa buhay ng iba pero tingnan mo si RR nagpopost pa ng opinion nya about issues ng ibang tao, she's adding fuel to fire.
1:21 by posting it here eh chinismis mo na rin ang buhay ni RR. chismis means talking about others you obviously have no business with, whether it's factual or not. isa ka ring hypocrite.
1:52 I am stating facts hindi yan chismis. Hindi ko kailangan mag chismis dahil out in the open yang sinabi ko matagal ng public knowledge yang sinabi ko.
@1:52 Hypocrite? Bakit nag banal banalan ba ako like RR? Pinagkakalat ko ba sa tao na nagba bible study ako sa bahay namin with my so-called christian friends? Did I ever say that i am religious? Just accept RR's hypocrisy kesa nagpapaka fool ka. Tsaka hello chismis ba yung mag sabi ng totoo?
@1:52 GOSSIP Casual or unconstrained conversation or reports about other people, typically involving "details that are not confirmed as being true"
What I said about kay RR is true and she and her friends were called out here pa nga sa FP naying topic silang dalawa so hindi chismis yan because nangyati talaga and I have all the right to say whatever I want here, alangan naman ikaw lang pwede, opinion mo lang matters ganun? I don't broadcast me being religious or whatever like what RR has been telling the world for years now kaya sya hypocrite not me.
@1:52 Makapuna ka naman kay 1:21 kala mo naman hindi ka nag cocomment at nakiki chismis din dito sa fp. Andito ka nga o so chismosa ka din like me and the rest of the gang. Feeling mo naman naiiba ka sa amin paka hypocrite mo ha, tse!
LAHAT TYO DITO CHISMOSA GOSSIPER MAKASALANAN. Totoo yan. Since anDito na tyo, wag na natin palakihin pa ang kasalanan natin ipagtanggol natin na ok lang magbigay ng opinion sa pinagcchismisan natin. Read lang keep your comments lalo na kung negative.
Sakanya na din nanggaling na ayaw nya yung ginagawa ng kapatid nya before. So dapat, as christian, she understands where Izzy is coming from. Unless hindi legit yung pagiging Christian nya.
1:54 Totoo yan. Pinag daanan nya so dapat hindi sya mag post ng ganyan but instead mag private message sya and give Izzy hope na pwede pa maayos relationship nya with her son. I think ganyan ang totoong christian mag isip, hindi mag papalala ng issue para mapag usapan at maging bida sila ng kapatid nya.
Aware naman siguro si Izzy na may masasabi ang mga tao pag isinapubliko mo yung mga bagay na dapat eh sa inyo na lang mag ina dahil di naman sya bago sa showbiz. Sa ginawa nyang yan mas lalo lang lalayo anak nya sa kanya.
Tanong ko sa mga nanay dito. If may anak ba kayo na gay, ano reaction nyo? Based on my personal experience, when my son told me he is gay, shock or natakot ako for him kasi alam ko his life won't be a normal life (na some of us ang definition ng normal, man & woman). Pero nakarecover agad ako at tinanggap ko ng buuong buo ang anak ko. Ang katwiran ko kasi, kung akong ina na mahal na mahal ko ang anak ko at walang makakahigit sa pagmamahal na iyon at di ko sya matatanggap, panu pa ang pagtanggap sa kanya ng ibang tao. Simula noon, vocal na ako sa pagsasabi na "kung ako ngang nanay nya okay sa akin kayo pa na walng ambag sa pagpapalaki sa anak ko"
12:56 Ok naman sinabi mo kaya lang can't we just respect people na we don't share the same beliefs. Mahirap mag sabi na mas tama ako o mas tama sya. At the end of the day kanya kanyang nanay at anak yan. Kung nag work out yung issue nyo mag ina good for the both of you but we cannot expect others na ganun din ang dapat maging mind set ng gaya syo. Hayaan natin na marealize nila sa tamang oras yung dapat nila marealize mag ina.
When my son came out m, I cried. I am indenial and honestly speaking hindi ko pa rin sya ma refer as “she”. She is a minor, I don’t know if she is just in a phase na confuse sya sa sexuality nya. But I still love him, I don’t voice out my dislike sa preference nya. If may bad comments akong naririnig towards him ako yung unang unang nagtatanggol sa kanya. I think yung reaction ni Izzy is normal lang naman na masaktan . We can’t impose on her to accept her son’s sexuality agad2x.But it also doesn’t mean hindi nya mahal to. Eventually time will pave way to acceptance.
1:38, sa basa ko sa comment ni 12:56, parang wala naman akong nakita na hint of disrespect sa beliefs ng iba. More like nagkuwento lang siya ng experience niya on the subject matter.
Panoorin nyo yung movie na Call Me By Your Name ni Timothee Chalamet, ang ganda ng advice ng Dad nya sa kanya about his gender preference coming from a religious family. Wala lang, I think it is relatable.
You can all hate me pero I do believe that religion divides more than it unites. I am 100% a believe of God pero I stopped going to mass for a long time. I just couldn't stand it. Na feel ko talaga yung hypocrisy sa ibang tao na laging umaattend ng mass or bible study oero deep inside they dont oractice what they preach. Ayun ang gusto ko lang ipoint out, kaya lang naman may disagreement yung mag ina ay dahil sa religious views.
I get it, she means well.. but we can’t also deny the fact na sawsawera talaga ang auntie nyo.
ReplyDeleteTrue pero siguro close sila.
DeleteAlam nya yan, sawsawera nga tawag nya sa branding nya lol
DeleteHindi pwedeng ikumpara ang pagmamahal ng magulang at kapatid. Magkaiba.
DeleteJust because close siya sa mga kapatid nyang trans hindi ibig sabihin na hindi mabuting magulang si Izzy. Napaka sawsawera. Gawa ka din sarili mong issue girl para hindi ka sakay ng sakay sa issue ng iba.
Ay may sawsawera awardee.
DeleteSinong nagbigay ng karapatan sa kanya o kay Ogie o kahit kaninong tao na pakialaman yung values and beliefs ng ibang magulang? Good for Izzy for staying firm with what she believes in, and for Andrei in doing what makes him happy. Alam kong dadating yung time na mapapatawad at matatanggap nilang mag-ina yung isa’t isa.
ReplyDeleteWhen you post something in social media, you automatically give others the right to make sawsaw. If ayae makialam ang iba, keep your affairs private. Simple lang.
Delete12:24 eh ikaw, sino naman ang nagbigay ng karapatan sa iyo na pakialaman na magbigay sila ng opinyon sa isang issue na naka-public? pare-pareho lang tayong mga tsismosa na may kanya-kanyang opinyon kaya magbasa ka lang at huwag mag-question sa ginagawa ng iba na ginagawa mo rin.
DeleteSana kahit pano nakuha mo yung message ng comment 12:30.
Delete12:24 by making your post, nakisawsaw ka na din. stop gatekeeping other's opinions. palibhasa yung inabugbog sa social media kasi Kristiyano kuno pero di matanggap ang anak porke ibang landas ang pinili. anong klaseng magulang yan?
DeleteNakakatakot naman mga replies sa thread na to! Na-stress ako promise.
DeleteI agree with you @12:24. Religious belief ng nanay yun , we have to respect that. A mother will always love their kids pero hindi ibig sabihin we will change our values and faith just to prove that will love them. Yun kaibigan ko , tibo ang anak , may kinakasamang babae. She supports them and helps when ever they need help like financial support or support to market their business, goes out with them for dinner and etc pero she still reminds them what they’re doing is not right ( based on her beliefs, based on what she reads in the Bible). That doesn’t make her a hypocrite or a bad Mom.
Delete12:24 wala namang may pake sa beliefs ni izzy, siya lang tong kumuda sa social media. you are a PARENT you should know better na sa ganitong ways hindi maayos yung misunderstanding niyo ng anak mo.
DeleteGanyan talaga pag inopen na, dami na makikisawsaw and mangengelam like us. Social media era. If u dont want na may makisawsaw, dont post or make public.
Delete12:59 goes out with them dinner to remind them what they're doing is not right? wow! the daughter doesn't need to go to hell because your friend is already giving her hell. and that's not love!
DeleteMosang na nga tayo enabler pa hahaha
Delete12:59 thats actually not "love" love.
Delete12:30 no! nobody has the right na makisawsaw just because it’s posted in social media. hirap sa mga tao ngayon feeling entitled masyado sa buhay ng iba porket may nabasa lang na post.
Delete@ 1:27 am I think you misunderstood my point. Hindi ko sinasabi na nakikipagdinner siya parA sermonan ang anak niya at gf nito. Why would she do that while they’re having dinner ? Eh di nasira ang dinner nilaš¤¦♀️? My point it is she didn’t shun them , siya pa nga nagpakilala sa buong family niya yun karelasyon ng anak niya, they have a United front, no one would dare say anything against her daughter or gf nito or else siya yun una makakalaban. She and her daughter has a good relationship pero like any other parent hindi pa rin siya nagkukulang ng paalala . They both respect each other. Pati na rin yun partner/gf she has high respect for my friend. They understand where she’s coming from . My friend also knows , that all she can do is to only give advice and reminders. At the end of the day , they’re both consenting adults and they have the right to do what they want to do.
Delete10:55 So wala ka din palang right makialam sa opinion ng iba dito. Practice what you preach accla.
Delete10:55 edi sana wala ka dito! napaka IPOKRITA mo naman accla kairita!!!
DeleteSi Izzy po kasi pinost nya in public. Kalokang Nanay, maiflaunt lang na maka diyos binandera pa problema nila ng anak nya. Nasobrahan sa pagiging influencer keme.
DeleteGulo ni RR haha
ReplyDeleteShe's a fake christian. Ang totoomg christian kahit i-crucify o stone pa maninindigan sa commands and decrees ni God. Hindi babaliin ang nakasulat sa scriptures for humans satisfaction. One time may pinost pa sila ng friend nya while nasa kotse sila i just cant remenber if pinag tatawanan ba nila or inaway yung isang tao and take note nagba bile study pa yan sila. So wala talaga akong bilib kay RR, she is a disgrace to christianity. Sana wag na nya ipagkalat na christian sya kasi maraming matitino na nadadamay, hindi naman lahat ng christian ay hypocrite. Meron din mga totoo. Bawal nga ang makichismis sa buhay ng iba pero tingnan mo si RR nagpopost pa ng opinion nya about issues ng ibang tao, she's adding fuel to fire.
Delete1:21 by posting it here eh chinismis mo na rin ang buhay ni RR. chismis means talking about others you obviously have no business with, whether it's factual or not. isa ka ring hypocrite.
Delete1:52 I am stating facts hindi yan chismis. Hindi ko kailangan mag chismis dahil out in the open yang sinabi ko matagal ng public knowledge yang sinabi ko.
Delete@1:52 Hypocrite? Bakit nag banal banalan ba ako like RR? Pinagkakalat ko ba sa tao na nagba bible study ako sa bahay namin with my so-called christian friends? Did I ever say that i am religious? Just accept RR's hypocrisy kesa nagpapaka fool ka. Tsaka hello chismis ba yung mag sabi ng totoo?
DeleteBakit 1:52? Sinabi ba ni 1:21 na Christian? She did not mention that she is. Ikaw, chismosa na, assumera pa.
DeleteAt tama naman sya sa sinasabi nya na disgrace si RR sa mga totoong practicing Christians.
@1:52 GOSSIP
DeleteCasual or unconstrained conversation or reports about other people, typically involving "details that are not confirmed as being true"
What I said about kay RR is true and she and her friends were called out here pa nga sa FP naying topic silang dalawa so hindi chismis yan because nangyati talaga and I have all the right to say whatever I want here, alangan naman ikaw lang pwede, opinion mo lang matters ganun? I don't broadcast me being religious or whatever like what RR has been telling the world for years now kaya sya hypocrite not me.
@1:52 Makapuna ka naman kay 1:21 kala mo naman hindi ka nag cocomment at nakiki chismis din dito sa fp. Andito ka nga o so chismosa ka din like me and the rest of the gang. Feeling mo naman naiiba ka sa amin paka hypocrite mo ha, tse!
DeleteLAHAT TYO DITO CHISMOSA GOSSIPER MAKASALANAN.
DeleteTotoo yan. Since anDito na tyo, wag na natin palakihin pa ang kasalanan natin ipagtanggol natin na ok lang magbigay ng opinion sa pinagcchismisan natin. Read lang keep your comments lalo na kung negative.
@1:52 Isang tsimosa sinita ang isa din tsismosa, ang hypcrite mo 1:52
Delete1:21 I agree with u… same thoughts.
Delete1:21 nadale mo yan gusto ko sabihin
Deleteda who? kadiri yang rr
ReplyDeletemaganda naman ang message. kaso galing dyan ke RR so lang cuenta din
ReplyDeleteSakanya na din nanggaling na ayaw nya yung ginagawa ng kapatid nya before. So dapat, as christian, she understands where Izzy is coming from. Unless hindi legit yung pagiging Christian nya.
ReplyDelete1:54 Totoo yan. Pinag daanan nya so dapat hindi sya mag post ng ganyan but instead mag private message sya and give Izzy hope na pwede pa maayos relationship nya with her son. I think ganyan ang totoong christian mag isip, hindi mag papalala ng issue para mapag usapan at maging bida sila ng kapatid nya.
DeleteTrot
DeleteWalang paki-alaman please sa core beliefs ng ibang magulang!
ReplyDeleteKung ayaw mapakialamanan wag ipublic ang post. Nakakaloka, next time keep it within the family.
DeleteAware naman siguro si Izzy na may masasabi ang mga tao pag isinapubliko mo yung mga bagay na dapat eh sa inyo na lang mag ina dahil di naman sya bago sa showbiz. Sa ginawa nyang yan mas lalo lang lalayo anak nya sa kanya.
Delete“Christians” LMAO!
ReplyDeleteWhat's up with these sexy starlets hiding in the veil of Christianity kuno?
ReplyDeleteTanong ko sa mga nanay dito. If may anak ba kayo na gay, ano reaction nyo? Based on my personal experience, when my son told me he is gay, shock or natakot ako for him kasi alam ko his life won't be a normal life (na some of us ang definition ng normal, man & woman). Pero nakarecover agad ako at tinanggap ko ng buuong buo ang anak ko. Ang katwiran ko kasi, kung akong ina na mahal na mahal ko ang anak ko at walang makakahigit sa pagmamahal na iyon at di ko sya matatanggap, panu pa ang pagtanggap sa kanya ng ibang tao. Simula noon, vocal na ako sa pagsasabi na "kung ako ngang nanay nya okay sa akin kayo pa na walng ambag sa pagpapalaki sa anak ko"
ReplyDelete12:56 Ok naman sinabi mo kaya lang can't we just respect people na we don't share the same beliefs. Mahirap mag sabi na mas tama ako o mas tama sya. At the end of the day kanya kanyang nanay at anak yan. Kung nag work out yung issue nyo mag ina good for the both of you but we cannot expect others na ganun din ang dapat maging mind set ng gaya syo. Hayaan natin na marealize nila sa tamang oras yung dapat nila marealize mag ina.
DeleteWhen my son came out m, I cried. I am indenial and honestly speaking hindi ko pa rin sya ma refer as “she”. She is a minor, I don’t know if she is just in a phase na confuse sya sa sexuality nya. But I still love him, I don’t voice out my dislike sa preference nya. If may bad comments akong naririnig towards him ako yung unang unang nagtatanggol sa kanya.
DeleteI think yung reaction ni Izzy is normal lang naman na masaktan . We can’t impose on her to accept her son’s sexuality agad2x.But it also doesn’t mean hindi nya mahal to.
Eventually time will pave way to acceptance.
1:38, sa basa ko sa comment ni 12:56, parang wala naman akong nakita na hint of disrespect sa beliefs ng iba. More like nagkuwento lang siya ng experience niya on the subject matter.
Delete@1:21 the way you think is what unchistian like is it.
ReplyDeleteI never said that I am a christian. Keep that in mind.
DeletePanoorin nyo yung movie na Call Me By Your Name ni Timothee Chalamet, ang ganda ng advice ng Dad nya sa kanya about his gender preference coming from a religious family. Wala lang, I think it is relatable.
ReplyDeleteThat's because the dad is also gay in the movie.
DeleteProblem is... members of LGBTQ+ wanting acceptance, yet they cant accept other people's opinion.
ReplyDeleteWanting respect, yet they cant respect other people's belief.
Kung ang paniniwala ng ibang tao ay taliwas sa paniniwala nila, pinapalabas nilang napakasama ng taong yun.
Lets all co-exist, without forcing others to accept who we are.
You can all hate me pero I do believe that religion divides more than it unites. I am 100% a believe of God pero I stopped going to mass for a long time. I just couldn't stand it. Na feel ko talaga yung hypocrisy sa ibang tao na laging umaattend ng mass or bible study oero deep inside they dont oractice what they preach. Ayun ang gusto ko lang ipoint out, kaya lang naman may disagreement yung mag ina ay dahil sa religious views.
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