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Saturday, July 15, 2023

The Source with Pinky Webb Tackles 'Ama Namin' Controversy with Fr. Jerome Secilliano, Pura Luka Vega , Rep. Geraldine Roman



Images and Video courtesy of YouTube: CNN Philippines

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  1. A quick apology to the people you offended nalang. Ang dami pang sinasabi and giving the LGBTQ+ a bad name na parang lahat agree sa ginagawa mo. Ikaw nalang wag mo idamay ang ibang LGBtQ sa pinagagawa mo

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    1. Nah. Apology is for something you did unintentionally. His purpose is to offend and hurt Catholics. Panindigan na lang niya whatever the consequences are. Let his Creator judge him in the end.

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    2. ARTICLE 201 OF REVISED PENAL CODE. KRIMEN GINAWA MO ACCLA. TAMA KA NA AT INTAY KA LANG.

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    3. Maybe because dami niyang supporters & defenders sa Twitter which is naloka ako kaya di siya naging humble to apologize.

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    4. Ayan ang ayaw ko sa mga pa-woke minsan eh. Okay lang maging pa woke pero minsan ung iba sumusobra na. Hindi nabebend ang pananaw kahit latagan mo ng facts na taliwas na alam nila. Bagkus idedepend nila at hahanapan ng loophole mapanindigan lang pananaw nila.

      Like this one, dinipensahan siya ng mga LGBT to the point na yung point na nila is anti LGBT ang simbahan, homophobic daw mag call out sa kanila at nangdidiscriminate din naman kristyanismo…

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    5. Anon 2:06, kung sa loob ng simbahan o religious ginawa oo pero sa bar ata yun e

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    6. 2:06 that needs to be proven in court though, not in social media. Anyways, wala naman akong alam sa issue. Hanggang FP lang ako, nothing more. Nakiki mema lang.

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    7. Try naman kaya ni Vuklah na gawin yan sa Islam, for artsy lang ba

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    8. Bastos naman pala tlaga tong luka luka na to. Nagmukbang pa pala ng hostia na naka Jesus. Nakakagalit tlaga. Ung mga LGBTQ jan di man lang nicall out kasama nila! WOW!!

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  2. Foreigner ba yan si pura luka vega?

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  3. nice interview. I admire that Pura stood by his performance, walang halong denial or something. I am Catholic, but personally and honestly, I see nothing wrong with his performance. Oh well, to each their own.

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    1. Aba u need to check ang pagiging Katoliko mo iha.

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    2. Kahiya naman sa pagiging Katoliko mo. Admire p more sa taong nila nilapastangan si Jesus.

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    3. Amaccana Pura, inom ka maraming holy water.

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  4. ang kapal netong pura mygosh

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  5. Palusot pa more Pura. Church doesn’t exclude gays, you know that. You became famous in a negative way.

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    1. Church does exclude gays, haler they can't even get married in there. And you know there are tons who are respectful to their religion

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    2. 151 girl, maski sa ibang bansa hindi nman tlaga sa church kinakasal ang gay couple. 🤣 Kaloka ha. Dalhin nyo yan sa Middle East yang asal nyo, tingnan ko lang kung makakabalik pa kayo ng buhay sa Pilipinas. 😂 Ang swerte nyo nasa Pinas kayo. Lol

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    3. 3:18, doesn't change the fact that the church does exclude them in thay regard. Kesyo abroad or locally.

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    4. I said the church does exclude them in the marriage aspect, and that's a worldwide fact, even you know. The Catholic Church is not exclusive to the ph. Duh. 3:18

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    5. 318 true try go to saudi lol

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    6. I am not religious at hindi ko na matandaan kung kelan ako huling nagsimba but bakit naman kayo namimilit na tanggapin ng simbahan kung maski sa Senado hindi nga kayo maaprobahan tapos may paganito c Accla. Kaya goodluck nlang sa inyo. Buti nlang napakaopen ng Pilipinas.

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  6. Pinky asked a good question. Where do we draw the line? Ang hirap ngayon kasi ang dami naman pwedeng ma-icontent na hindi offensive pero yun pa napili. Then kapag na-call out, sasabihin queer expression yun. Ilaban mo pa yang art therapy mo talaga jusko ka day. You went too far Pura yun lang yun. Kung hindi sagrado yung pagtingin mo dun wag ka mag-assume na ganon din yan makikita ng iba.

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    1. Haha she did not. She's obviously biased.

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    2. 9:42 yeah Pinky is obviously biased toward the LGBTQ community. Parang mag kiniquestion pa nya ung priest at congresswoman than pura na as if apura didn’t do anything wrong. As she said to pura na she disagree with those hateful comments against him on socmed. Definitely biased

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  7. To be honest, the act is very disturbing. The vibe is satanic/demonic mocking Jesus Christ and Christianity, its like watching a horror movie and they are very proud of it.

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    1. very disturbing and offensive. Lalo kung napanood nyo ang close up video. He even made gestures mimicking a s****l act while singing the Lord's prayer.

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  8. Jusko naman Pinky! Hindi mo magets? Or atheist ka kasi! Sorry for saying this pero Pinky for you and your family walang kasalanan ang brother mo so eto ka na naman. Hindi mo na naman ba nakikita yung mali??? Hay! Smh

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    1. im sorry but ako din medyo na off kay pinky dito!

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    2. Pinky is there to balance things out, focussssss! Wag humiwalay sa issue!

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    3. For me Pinky was very professional and neutral. Maganda na iniemphasize nya yung pagtatanong as to what specific element of the performance was considered blasphemous. Hindi naman kasi lahat katoliko kaya hindi agad magegets ano nga ba talaga yung offensive duon. May mga religion kasi na when they worship, may banda pa. As to sa venue naman, laging sinasabi na wherever you are, you can pray/worship. And as to sa sinuot nung drag queen, hindi naman talaga historically accurate yung sinuot nya to represent Jesus.

      However, nung ininterview na yung drag queen, it became clear to me. He gave a non-apology apology. Gagawin nga daw nya ulit eh. Agree ako sa lahat ng sinabi ni Congresswoman.

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    4. Dont get mad at Pinky. She’s just being a host, asking all possible questions to all sides. She cant show her biases when doing news.

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    5. I'm not mad at her. It's just that she kept on asking the priest the same question many times as if she couldn't accept his answer and the reason why people were offended by Pura's blasphemous so called art.

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    6. What’s wrong with being an atheist?

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    7. 3:58 O ililihis mo na naman ang issue! Patanong tanong ka pa ano masama sa pagiging atheist! Pwes, kung atheist man ang isang tao, matuto din kayong rumespeto sa mga taong iba ang belief sa inyo. Kung atheist man ang mag iinterview sa isang priest eh di walang patutunguhan ang interview puro tanong lang ng puro tanong, hindi naaman i-aaccept ang sagot at ang sentiments ng mga naoffend sa nangyari. Kung di naman atheist si Pinky eh ewan ko sa kanya bakit paulit ulit ang tanong nya at di mo magets sinabi ng priest at ni congresswoman. Halatang kontra sya at sumasang ayon kay Pura.

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    8. 1:09 pinersonal mo naman si Pinky na news anchor. She was asking those question to clarify kung alin doon ang wrong na ginawa nung pura para maintindihan din ng ibang tao. Meron kasing mga tao na di nila naiintindihan (parang ikaw na walang comprehension) kung saan may maling ginawa. Pati news anchor at family nya dinadamay mo. Ung ibang pinoy kung mambash wala sa lugar eh.

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  9. It’s very wrong:

    1. Dressing like Jesus and acting wild. Pinapamaypay pa ung head dress.
    2. The prayer was sang in an inappropriate venue. Where everyone is partying and meron pang mga umiinom.
    3. The ahole feels no remorse at all.
    Daming “if” and “but”.

    He should be excluded from the society.

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    1. I don’t think he should be. He must be rebuked: The pope should give mercy because he was clearly possessed or even embodies satan. Kung nasa tama kang katinuan at ikaw ay Kristiano Kahit Di na katoliko or even Muslim, respeto na yun sa Panginoon. sha ang modern day nasaniban ng demonyo, nagtatago sa art etc.

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    2. Panoorin nyong mabuti kung hindi bias si Pinky. Pakinggang nyong mabuti. She even said to Pura that she disagree with the hateful comments made against Pura. Is that what u call professional & unbiased? She hardly ask Pura while the other 2 she asked many times what’s so disrespectful about Puras act.

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  10. Kaka-GG to si pura. You went too far. Hindi porke sayo hindi offensive e tatanggapin na lang iyon ng iba. Tapos kapag na-call out e gagamitin yung expression mo lang yun.

    Ang daming pwedeng mai-content, ang daming drag queens na gumagawa ng art nila pero wala naman naheadline katulad mo na offensive

    Tama si Cong Geraldie. Simple case of disrespect yun ng religious feelings ng iba. Not because sinupress yung art mo or because you are queer

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  11. Jusko mag apology ka na lang accla. Wag mo idamay lgbtq++ dito, wala kami kinalaman dyan and hindi namin feel na na degrade kami dahil unang una, ikaw ang nang insulto.

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  12. Ewan ko sayo Pura hahahaha

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  13. Maybe its just me but Pinky asking Father Jerome and Congresswoman Geraldine whats wrong with Pura's 'Performance' is just so ridiculous. Of course everything about it is WRONG. Hindi po basta kanta lng ang Ama Namin. Prayer po sya. Feeling ko di maintindihan ni Pinky anong mali sa ginawa ni Pura. Mas lalo lang ako nainis lalo na sa interview na ito so biased

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    1. mabuti na lang, the priest and congresswoman made very good points

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  14. It’s very wrong:

    1. Dressing like Jesus and acting wild. Pinapamaypay pa ung head dress.
    2. The prayer was sang in an inappropriate venue. Where everyone is partying and meron pang mga umiinom.
    3. The ahole feels no remorse at all.
    Daming “if” and “but”.

    He should be excluded from the society.

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    1. plus making gestures mimicking se***l acts. Napanood ko yung close up video.

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    2. Coz Pinky’s biased. Sinabi na na its basic human psychology pero parang di nya naiintindhan. If u touch someone else’s property, things or whatever is important to that person of course u will react

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  15. Bakit binibigyan pa toh ng platform para maghasik pa lalo sya? Lol stop. No one wants to listen sakanya after his tweet

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    1. True. Nakakahiya si akla. Actually nakakadiri na.

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    2. i know! stop interviewing this guy. stop featuring him on videos, nakakasuka!

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    3. Si Pinky lang ang may gustong e-interview yan

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  16. Wag na pag usapan kasi. Ignore na sa mga news and interviews. Yan ang gusto nya eh. Derecho na kasuhan kung meron ikakaso.

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  17. I cannot watch this, sorry, I don’t know what to call “it”. There is something about “it” that makes me uncomfortable.

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  18. Forgive him Lord, for he dont know what he is doing

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    1. the thing is, he does know what he’s doing

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  19. He said sorry but he'll do it again? What?

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  20. A reminder to religious ppl that oppression isn't an event (e.g. ama namin remix) but a system (e.g. marriage, sogie bill)

    You can be offended, that's your right. But don't pretend that a drag queen's performance had any material impact on your ability to practice your religion.

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    1. Walang impact sa pagpractice ng religion pero NAKAKAINSULTO.

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    2. hindi na lang kasi mag sorry si accla instead may following video pa yan kumakaen ng ostia nirarate niya kung gaano kasarap. hindi na "art" yan kabastusan na yan talaga..

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    3. Such is life 6:16, don't take things too personally. The longer you live, the more potentially offensive things you'll encounter. Namaste.

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  21. This is scary in the sense that he likes the attention he's getting from portraying Jesus Christ even in blasphemous way. The scarier part is there are people enjoying and joining him in this. It's like a cult in the making.

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  22. Madami ng masasama s mundo, wag n kayong dumagdag

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  23. I also wonder how he’s been doing this for so long and ngayon lang na call out? What’s up with these people who’ve been enjoying this clown show? I saw a video na he was holding pa a bible and put it down on the floor ts went to men, knelt down and did the sign of the cross. Ugh

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    1. Nataon na lately lang na-post sa ibang socmed platform. Parang more on TikTok sya. Alam mo naman dun daming nakakasuka

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  24. Gusto ko ang father na’to. May paninindigan sa faith nya at hindi people pleaser. May iba kasi na pari na playing safe pag in-interview kasi takot mabash ng mga woke sa twitter. I’m not even a Catholic, I’m a Muslim yet sobra akong na-offend sa act na’to. Respect na lang sana talaga.

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  25. Bakit parang nang-i-inis ang mukha ni Pinky Webb while interviewing the father? Kaloka. Parang mas gusto pa nyang pangaralan si Father kesa kay Pura.

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    1. @9:10 True! Diba ang dating nya for her art yun at right ni Pura express ang sarili nya kahit maling way.

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    2. NagTaka pa kayo eh sa kapatid nga nyang si Hubert db

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  26. Di naman excluded ang gays sa simbahan or even sa Catholic ah. Welcome naman kayo always pumasok at sumamba sa church ah. Grabe palusot nito. Gaslighting pa nga.

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    1. Alam ko ang Pope tanggap sila. Sa lahat ng religion ang Catholic ang pinakaunderstanding na church. Na recognize na nga ang theory of evolution kasi hindi kailangan maging bulag para mahalin si God. Maging accepting dapat sa ideas ng iba at yun ang gusto ni Jesus na mahalin ang isa't isa

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  27. Bakit ganun ang interview ni Pinky? Parang mas may kasalanan pa ata ang pari kesa dun sa Luka? Gentle lang nung interview kay Luka kahit parang gaslighting na lang ginagawa.

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  28. Kahit apology nalang sa lgbtq whom he dragged down in this whole controversy

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    1. 10:14 AM - he should apologize to Christians, not LGBTQ. He mocked Jesus Christ and Ama Namin.

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  29. just leave this man alone. kung ganyan siya wala tayong magagawa. just simply walk away.

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    1. 11:27 He should just walk away at wag na magpa interview at i-justify pa ang kabastusan nyang ginawa kung gusto mo ma people will leave him alone. The more pa nya ipag laban ang ginawa nya, the more na baka mapahamak lang sya.

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    2. NO. What he did was so wrong and he needs to be called out. We should not tolerate or enable this kind of behavior. Lalo na’t sabi pa nga nya he will do it again.

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  30. mababaw ang reasoning nya, mukhang afterthought na lang after getting flak for his actions. hindi nya ma-internalize how faith works and why people are offended. yun faith, nakabaon na yan ng malalim sa pinaka-identity ng tao. at kung mapanood mo someone like Pura na babuyin yun by dressing up and performing for entertainment, sobra sobra pa sa pagiging offended ang effect nun

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  31. Mapapamura ka dito kay Pura e. Mag sorry ka nalang kasi nakakaoffend ang ginawa mo. Masyadong laki ulo! Pano may mga followers pa rin na nagtatanggol sa ginawa nya! Yung mga naki join naman sa trip nya, di man lang kinilabutan!

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  32. There is hate and mockery.and Pura will continue to do this because he wants the clout and attention. Tapusin na Ang 5 minutes fame niya dahil Marami Ang susunod sa yapak niya. I suggest to report Pura ' s social media accounts para magsara at lahat Ng magpost Ng bidyo

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  33. sakin lang ha... parang wala namang problema yung ginawa niya unless nag malaswa drag sya as jesus. yun na tlga yon. parang ginawa lang niya na rak of aegis ang ama namin.

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    1. look at her tiktok videos matagal na pala niyang ginagawa yan. parang obsession niya na talagang imock yung pinaniniwalaan ng mga kristyano

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    2. Ok lang rin mag mukbang ng ostya?

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  34. Gustu ko yung explanation ng congresswoman.. Basic Human Psychology.

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  35. kamuka ng boyfriend ni toni fowler

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  36. NAKAKABWISET YUNG ANCHOR, UTAL UTAL!

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  37. Stand your ground Luka! Don’t mind them. For me you didn’t do anything wrong.

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    1. Kinilabutan ako sa sinabi mo

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    2. pero pag nag disagree sa "trans is a woman" homophobic na galit na galit pa kayo kasi para sa iba hindi naman sila natural woman therefore hindi sila babae. lol

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    3. Sabi nga ni Johnny Cash - "whoever is righteous, let him be righteous still. Whoever is filthy, let him be filthy still. Listen to the words long written down, when the Man comes around."

      It is indeed your life to filth up, Luka, but then again, it is also your sins, to pay for. Such abhorrent, irrelevant, disrespectful, evil, cruel filth. I heard there is a place for such things.

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    4. Wait mo matinding KARMA mo 3:52 kapag pinarusahan ka ng Matindi ni Lord Tsaka ka luluha ng dugo!

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    5. 1:21 wishing you well. Hope you’ll live a happy and healthy long life.

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    6. 12:23 love this

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  38. Thats why I like Karmina Constantino 100x more than Pinky Webb

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  39. Mabuti pa si Rep Geraldine, hindi enabler at may sense talaga lahat ng sinabi nya. Basic Human Psychology, indeed. Sana lahat ng member ng LGBT+ community kagaya nya na pag alam nyang mali ang kafederation nya, call out nya and hindi takot mabash ng mga nasa queer community. Nakuha ni Rep ang buong respect at paghanga ko.

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    1. This has nothing to do with LGBT community! We are different individually. Ang mali nya, kanya lang. Dinadamay nyo na naman sa usapin ang mga LGBT. Tama na.

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    2. 11:54 si pura ung nandadamay sa LGBTQ. Di ka nakikinig? O wala kang comprehension?

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    3. 12:23 no hindi nya dinadamay ang lgbt. Kayo lowkey sinisingit nyo sa usapan wag kayong gaslighter. Sya lang may mali. Walang kina laman dito ibang lgbt.

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  40. It's a way to heal YOUR issues with the church, but in the process, your actions hurt other people. You are just a narcissist.

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  41. Pura Luka Vega needs medical attention. What he is doing and thinking is out of reality.

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  42. I like Congresswoman Geraldine Roman, your points are very well said. Bakit parang naging unpleasant na si Pinky Webb. Parang may pagka- maldita na ang aura nya.

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  43. I remember Yung Extra Challenge went to Dubai dati. Nag desert safari si Ruffa Mae and Ara Mina then ang challenge is they have to recite a verse from Quran while riding sa sand dunes. It wasn't meant to offend but syempre andaming naoffend so they had apologize. Naalala ko lang hehe

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    1. Merun pa. Yung sina Maui Taylor at Aubrey Miles may ni-recite na Muslim prayer ata yun eh natatawa sila. Hindi naman nila tinatawanan yung binabasa nila instead yung nahihirapan silang basahin na-call out din yun at na-MTRCB pa

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  44. Okay, fine, artistic expression, whatever, pero baks, hindi yan your kind of worship unless blasphemy nga yung kind of worship mo

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