Thursday, May 18, 2023

Teacher Georcelle Only Has Good Words Amidst Concert Controversy, Sarah Geronimo Expresses Gratitude


Image and Video courtesy of YouTube: Mario Dumaual

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  1. Sarah is beautiful inside and outside and that’s all we know from her.

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  2. Kaplastikan nito ni TG. Hahahaha

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    1. True! Ramdam ko din. Dame nyan nasagasaan sa dance industry. Good for Sarah to realize that.

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    2. Dami niya hanash. Yung mag imbento nga ng Spaghetti Pababa at Pataas hindi nagdedemand ng150k, siya pa na hindi naman sya ang actual choreographer kundi member nya.

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  3. It’s her loss not Sarah’s.

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    1. Agree. Siya ang may need for damage control.

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  4. ang awkward ng sagot ni sarah alam mo talagang nahurt sya. iniwan ba naman sya sa ere! nakakaloka!!

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    1. Kaya nga e. Sabi pa niya, sana raw nandun ang GForce. Hindi man lang pagbigyan si Sarah.

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    2. Naiyak si Sarah pinigilan lang nya

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  5. To what I she worked with those backup dancers throughout her career in show business. TG ought to have been sympathetic to Sarah's desires.

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    1. **To what I understand

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    2. SUSKO 12:06, KINORRECT MO NA SARILI MO PERO "TO WHAT i UNDERSTANd" KA PA RIN DYAN KAGIGIL.

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    3. Ahaha. Natawa ko sa gigil mo 4:19am. I feel you.

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    4. hahahah kalma ka lang 4:19 , kaw naman kasi 12:06 may chance ka na nga itama..na-hb tuloy nagbabasa hihihi

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  6. From what I observed.. feeling ko lumalampas na sa job scope nya yung ginagawa ni TG.. pwede sya magsuggest ng kanyang input..but in the end.. it is still Sarah/viva the client pa din ang masusunod…hinihire lang services nya at ng GF

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    1. Exactly, 12:18. Saka to demand 150K everytime they use the choreo is ridiculous. As if pwede nyang pagkakitaan yung choreo na yun without SG's song.

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    2. True. Naging borderline mamaru na si TG. Naloka ako sa creative differences nila eh concert to ni Sarah so dapat magwork around sila don sa gusto ng tao bilang backup dancers sila. Also, fishy din yung creative differences na yan kala mo naman inaask sila magsayaw ng ballroom or magaquatic dance sa concert.

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    3. Yan ang mahirap pag ka work mo naging friend mo pa

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    4. ang daming demand ni G kay sarah, una gusto niya G force lang yung dancer sa concert, gusto din niya yung 150k. siya na lang mag concert kaya since ang dami niyang gusto. lumaki ulo ni mamshie tbh. lol

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    5. 12:38 pwede nya pagkakitaan kung pina copyright nya yung choreo. May iba pa naman songs siguro na pwede ibagay sa choreo

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    6. True! Unless, it what was agreed upon. Kakaloka na may intellectual rights sya sa choreo nya to think na yung mga dance steps ng mga HW stars, cha-cha, and etc, walang ganun. Greed and pride, TG! Tsk tsk

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    7. May isa shang interview na sabi TG di daw totoo ang 150K

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    8. 1:32 walang artist ang gugustuhing gumamit ng recycled choreo. Kung GForce mismo gagamit tapos ibang music, pointless rin dahil kay SG associated yung choreo dahil sa song nya.

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    9. as a dancer she is trying to do more for her team and herself. can you blame her? p150k isang makeup artist lang yan na tf noh from what i know. hello! saka totoo lang before yung tala kilala ko na si t. goercelle. and honest to goodness wala akong kilalang song ni sara except tala bec of the dance.

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    10. I think sabi nya lang hindi totoo na thru demand letter yun, but meron. Even viva confirmed it

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    11. May mga common individual dances, then there's choreography that is vonsidered creative work (like a painting, or a song) with intellectual properties. Respeto na lang sa IP. Beyonce's Single Ladies choreo is one of them.

      Pero kung walang ganung arrangements at wala sa contract that G keeps with IP rights, ah eh, fair game yan, hahaha!

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    12. 2:04, she denied the demand letter pero sinabi nya that she will charge for the intellectual property keme ng choreo nila which is the 150k.

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    13. 2:04 inamin niyang she sent the quote na 150k. Dineny niya lang na demand letter daw yun. Price quotation lang daw.

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    14. 2:04 sinabi na nya na totoo un. even Viva confirmed it

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    15. It’s a two-way battle. Sige nga paano ssikat ang tala without the dance choreo. Kaya yan napa ulit ulit iplay kse dahil sa dance moves!! Un na un!

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    16. 12:22 Maliban sa Tala may napasikat pa ba na dance step si Teacher Georcelle parang wala na yata

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    17. 12:22 Tala was a flop in 2015 u until nag-viral siya dahil aliw yung video ng mga acclang sumasayaw. If it wasn't a Sarah vid, I doubt. One sikat si Sarah. Two, si Sarah lang ang makakasayaw ng ganyang ka-effortless at flawless sa local female artists ngayon.

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    18. Sumikat ang Tala ulit dahil sa Tiktok, dahil dun sa O-Bar na sinasayaw ng mga Drag Queens especially yung impersonator ni Sarah. Kahit naman siguro iba ang choreography nung time na yun sisikat pa rin kasi catchy ang song.

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    19. Kinukuha sya as choreographer pero ang gusto nya kasi sya ang creative director sa concert, si SG lang may like sa kanya. The rest ayaw sa kanya, magbaback out lahat pag ginawa syang creative director. Anyway, about sa copyright ng dance steps, she was hired to choreograph that song. She was paid by viva. So, ang copyright dapat nasa viva?

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    20. 150k isn’t a lot considering the fact that she’s splitting the amount with her 20+ dancers.

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    21. I think you're misquoting it. It's not 150k for total payment to the dancers. It's 150k per choreography.

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    22. 3:58 yan din ang pumasok sa akin when i heard the 150k. Kasi Gforce is a group, a company. Silang group ang nag isip ng choreo, so it is right for TG to "demand" an amount dhil marami sila and paghahatian nila un.

      Napataas lng tlga ako ng eyebrow is when she cross borderline about sa "creative" kasi she didnt let the client to be the boss. Gusto nya sya ang above sa client which is too much, for me.

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    23. 3:58 parang naka separate na ata dyan sa 150k yung bayad sa dancers and sa pagpapahiram niya sa group niya.

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  7. Teacher G and Sarah G knows better. Only social media and some fans are twisting stuff around.

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    1. Makinig ka kay boss vic bakz. Hindi sya fan.

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  8. for once gusto ko makita mga totoong reaksyon ni sarah. di ibig sabihin magwarla siya ha.. sabihin lang niya na nahurt siya , nadisappoint siya, .... kaya doble ang good karma ni sarah eh bc she's too good for this world 😭

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  9. Natural good words. Kasi kung magsasalita sya against SG, she'll risk losing more clients. SG is known for being kind and respectful kaya pag siniraan nya si SG, sya lang magsasuffer.

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  10. Siguro gusto kasi ni T Georcelle na G Force lang ang dancers. Pero Sarah wanted other dancers too. Kaya di nagkasundo. Sana pinagbigyan na lang ni T Georcelle to think that they are very good friends. Nalamatan bec of this

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    1. Baka nagkaron binigyan pa ng spotlight ang Gforce sa concert ni Sarah.tribute pa ..ganern...16 years din sila magkawork..

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    2. Kung maraming dance groups, who decides sa choreo? Baka dun nagkaroon ng creative differences or baka ayaw ni Georcelle ituro sa ibang groups ang choreo without additional pay.

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  11. Kairita na sya
    Sarah g can find other dancers and choreographers ang daming magaling sa TikTok pa nga lang e

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  12. So proud of Sarah she has balls in this one. Some people have used her and took advantage of her but this time she stood for herself. Bravo.

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  13. ang ganda ng aura ni sarah sa video

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    1. True grabe the humility and gratitude pouring out of her, to think kakatapos lang ng successful sold out concert.

      Nung sinabi nya kulang sila ng practice, very walang malice even when we know who caused that.

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  14. Feeling main character si georcelle concert mo ba? Ikaw dapat masunod? Kaabahan ka na sino pa artists & companies na magtitiwala sa kanya. Nagawa nila kay sarah magpullout 2months before the concert at magbigay pa ng demand letter. Hindi pinagisipan yang move at nauna ang ego at pride. Bad for business yan hindi sila reliable

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    1. Korek,now Viva na ang nagsabi,alam na ng mga producers na ganyan sya pala kamahal maningil

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    2. Ayaw nang may kasamang ibang dance groups kala mo naman madi-differentiate mo pa kung sino ang GForce at kung sino hindi eh pare-pareho lang naman magagaling sumayaw yung kukunin ni Sarah.

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  15. Naku pasalamat si TG mabait si SG. Kung sa ibang artist nya ginawa yan, ewan ko na lang.

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    1. She thinks Sarah is a pushover mabait kasi pero na-sample-an sya ayan may backlash sa kanya kaya mega complain partida pa mabait si Sarah and never have she spoken ill of her. Dapat if 16yrs nman pala nagpaubaya na sya nagpapabayad pa sa choreo jusme!

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    2. 215 anong dapat nagpaubaya yang georcele dancer e hinire sila to be backup dancers, dapat yun lang ang pakialaman nya, di yung nakikicreative concept creative concept pa syang pakialamera sya!

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    3. walking away two months from performance date is big deal. good thing many people support paolo v and sarah to pull it off.

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    4. True malaki rin naman ambag ni Sarah sknya. Ano ba naman ung icelebrate mo rin un success nya. Kaloka. Anyway well said classmate. Truly agree

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    5. Yep, very unprofessional yung ginawa nila kahit saang angle mo pa tignan. Especially since matagal na silang may relationship with SG and Viva. Is it worth it burning that bridge?

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    6. Lol, the thing is, there are no other artists. Lets be honest Sarah is the biggest pop act in the ph and there are no other solo artists in her caliber. Georcelle messed up her bag big time.

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  16. 20th concert to ni Sarah meaning vision nmn dapat nya masunod. Saan ka nakakita na mas dapat masunod ang choreographer ng backup dancers kesa sa mismong star ng show. Creative difference? Di ba dapat sa directive ng client kayo sumusunod bilang backup dancers nga kayo meaning extra sa show. Now lng ako nakarinig na may say din sa creative mga extra sa show.

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    1. Well said classmate

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    2. Sinabi mo pa. Sang ayon ako dyan. Sana gnyan dn mg isip ibang tao.

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    3. True. Concert ni Sarah yan and not of GF. Lumaki na rin kasi ang ulo nitong isa.

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  17. Nalaman na kasi ng lahat na maski bayad ka para mag choreograph ng mga dances ni sarah pero copyrighed pala,charge mo na rin mga taong sumayaw ng sayaw mo.

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  18. for paolo paolo valenciano na mag decline to direct sarah if kasama pa si TG is a big thing,chroeo pero acting as artistic director na rin,alamin muna ang role mo siguro.laling tuong na rin sainyo ni sarah,

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  19. Sana naisip nya na malaki rin ang natulong ni sarah para sumikat gforce. Every prod ni sarah lagi nya nabananggit gforce for 16 years. Dami pa naman ngayon galing sumayaw lalo mabilis na matuto ngayon yt lang. No need na magworkshop na may bayad pa

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  20. Mr. Dumaual should have directly asked TG what she meant by "Creative differences." Asked her directly if there's truth to her refusal to work and collaborate with other dance groups. Di ko rin gets bakit siya pa ang hurting when she was the one who pulled out / nangiwan sa ere. Na-hurt ba ang ego niya dahil it was a missed calculation on her part? maybe she thought SG will run after her and beg and dismiss the other dance groups to favor G-force? If this is purely a professional decision bakit kahit isang member ng g-force wala man lang nanood sa concert ni SG, pinagbawalan ba ni TG ang group to watch the concert? Ang dami ng dance groups na sumikat at nawala, ingat lang ang g-force baka this might be the start of their downfall. Because of this issue unti-unting naglalabasan ang mga bad stories/encounters about TG and their group.

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  21. Diba she was paid to choreograph Sarah’s songs. In that case, di ba property na yun ng Viva? Wala ba silang clause sa mga ganyan? Enlighten me guys kung sino well verse sa ganyan.

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    1. Copyright is vested in the creator and automatic upon creation of the work, unless it is explicitly stated in their contract that the copyright of the creative work is assigned to the party that commissioned the work.

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  22. Seeing this interview it's obvious that TG were trying to hide what really happened. On the other hand it's very evident that even til now nasaktan si SG sa nangyari. Kitang-kita that she was caught off guard at pinipigil na di maiyak.

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  23. Magkakabati ito soon. At magkakaroon ng Tala reunion with Ggorce. Dahil lahat ng ito ay kasama sa marketing ng concert at sa padating na reunion nya with gforce. Yung kultong popsters, kagat na kagat.

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    1. Na bash si Georcelle sa nangyari at GForce ang nag pull out 2 mos before the concert. So i doubt kung ksma tlg sa marketing yon since na-ruin ung reputation ng GForce in a negative way.

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    2. Gurl, really? 🥴😒🤨

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  24. Film ulit ni Sarah G. lahat ng music videos as a solo performer. She should make a visual album ala Beyonce.

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  25. Dinedefend talaga ni TG ang paghingi ng “royalty” sa mga previous dance steps/choreo nya no?

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  26. Hindi naman sisikat ang choreo kung hindi si SG ang sumayaw.

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  27. The fact that TG is unable to adjust to what the clients want means they are not flexible. Baka di na sila kunin next time.

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  28. Sana Femme MNl na lang ang kunin ni Sarah. Mas bagay sila.

    GF is overated

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  29. Sarah is hurting. Wala syang masamang tinapay talaga. Whereas TG looked awkward sa pagsagot, sya kasi ang mas nakasakit

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  30. Naging tao na si Sarah these days. She speaks her mind and not anyone used her to their advantage mapa pamikya man yan o close friend. Di na sya nakakahon sa isang box ng di ma depressed na she was in for a long period of time. Kung nakayamg tiisin ni Sarah ang toxic relationship sa pamilya, ito pa kayang sinasahuran lang ng VIVA na GF? Mag hire sila ng bagong dancers sa Tiktok daming magagaling doon.

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    1. I guess, being married make her stand for herself and its a good thing

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  31. TG forgot the meaning of the word “backup”

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    1. Ang lungkot naman, na ang dancers seen as mere 'backup". It's a profession too.

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    2. 8:37 True naman because in this case, concert ito ni SG and back up lang talaga sila. Nagkaron na rin before ng shows ang GForce, ayun sila ang bida dun and not back up

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  32. kaloka ramdam ko ung ngitngit nung TG, at ramdam ko din yung hurt ni Sarah. taas ng tingin ni Georcella sa sarili. pinagpapala pa din talaga ang mapag kumbaba .

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  33. TG wanted to protect her brand and G-Force. I wonder if protecting brand and honoring the craft meant not open to collaboration with other dancers, or they wanted a prominent featured position making it the anniversary of Sarah and G-Force not the artist Sarah alone.

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  34. So anong group name ng backup dancers ni Sarah nung concert? If wala pa, I’m sure makikilala na din sila ngayon. Sorry, GForce — this just proves that you are not indispensable.

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    1. Minention niya yung iba including Upeeps which I think are streetdancers from UP

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    2. Also curious who's the back up dancers ni sarah sa concert

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    3. Isa yung A-Team, may mga panalo sa international competitions at sumasayaw na rin sa concerts ng celebs. Nakita ko sila sa concert ng Kpop artist na si Jessi dito, madalas din sa Eat Bulaga.

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    4. Si vice a-team na din back up dancers nya

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    5. Yung latest concert niya 8:00 yung Gforce pa rin. Yung kambal ba yun andoon. Pero madalas D'Grind sa Showtime, si Teacher Jobel ata ang head, dating OG Gforce na umalis na ata.

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  35. Sabi nga ni Sarah, it would have been more magical if andun ang GForce.

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  36. Sarah may be the kindest Filipino celebrity out there. Nakakabilib na bata.

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  37. As a solid Popster I am hurting for Sarah dahil sa issue niya with Gforce.. She treated them like a family lalo si TG.. So kung anuman ang issue sana maresolve pa rin. It's true na hindi kawqlan kay Sarah kung hindi na sila maging backup dancers nya but still mabigat pa rin sa kalooban nya yun.. I was there sa concert and ang masasabi ko sobrang galing pa rin even without Gforce..

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    1. nah.

      if you love Sarah, let her cut ties with toxic people

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  38. sugar coating & positive scripting, Sarah wanted more but they will only agree if the price is higher din. I'm glad Sarah has learned to let go of people that are pulling her down.

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    1. Parang lagi na lang naaabuso kindness ni Sarah, first her parents now this. Buti na lang she has learned to put her foot down, though masakit sa kalooban nya because she is very loving and loyal person.

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  39. Client hired a Vendor1 to provide services for a project. Vendor1 agreed. Client wants to hire other vendors to provide the same services for the same project to achieve the client’s vision for the project. Vendor1 didn’t like it and pulled out from the project, 2 months prior to project completion. Screams unprofessional to me. And no, G saying that her act of pulling out was to encourage SG’s creative freedom is a complete and utter B$. SG’s creative vision included GF’s participation and G denied that from SG. How can that be encouraging?

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  40. I think if the rumors are true that a certain fee is requested everytime gagamitin ang choreo, parang hindi naman masama yun. May royalties na binabayad sa singers/composers when their songs are used, sana may ganun ding support for dancers. Hindi madali ang isip ng choreography. Sana may support tayo sa artists, not just singers but also dancers.

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    1. If ganyan ha bayaran din nila royalty ng lahat ng ginagamit nilang songs sa mga workshops at mga shows nila kung song ni sarah or other artists pa yan since pinagkakakitaan nila yan. Pati din yung songs na ginagawan nila ng choreo sa tiktok/ig bayad royalty din dapat since gamit sa business nila.

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    2. If so, bayaran din nila yung gumawa ng steps sa cha2x, tango, hip-hop, salsa, foxtrot at iba pang mga dance steps. Mygulay, the design is very ridiculous!

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    3. @1:30pm binabayaran ng mga networks ang mga songs kapag pinapalabas sa TV tapos yung sa Tiktok na nagagamit na songs bayad din yun sa label. Maliit lang bayad per video per lumalaki siyempre kapag maraming gumagawa ng videos.

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    4. Sus bayaran nila gagamitin nilang songs pag sumasayaw sila!

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    5. Hindi yan sasabihin after magawa na at lahat lahat. Ano yan, kung kelan tapos na construction, dun pa pala may additional fees? Ibig sabihin pwede kang balikan ng karpintero nyo after 5yrs?

      Nilalatag yan sa proposal pa lang, para may option si client itake yun o maghanap ng ibang walang royalties o lower rates. Hindi yung tinignan muna kung sisikat, tapos nung sumikat, surprise, may super mega hidden fees.

      Yes, royalties are legal but before and during the negotiation sinasabi.

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    6. 3:37 sabi ko dun sa mga workshops nila pinagkakakitaan nila yung mga songs dun so dapat bayad royalty din dun.. And i remember may mga tala workshop, dati-dati workshop sila dati nagbayad ba sila ng royalty sa viva since sabi nila art is not free or ngayon lng nila yan naisip since need nila ng excuse?

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    7. @7:01 Kung pinatugtog nila yung song let's say via a streaming service like Spotify, bayad yun by pating for premium or inddirectly kasi may ads. I see this issue more as artists wanting better compensation for their effort. Since hindi naman umagree yung other party eh di no problem, use another choreography na lang, which they did. People are so quick to judge this situation as a selfish act of one party. It's possible na matagal na nilang negotiation ito pero nagdisagree lang talaga sa huli.

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    8. Pwede naman talaga sila bayaran kung na copyright na nila yung dance steps.

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    9. Ang tanong nacopyright ba? Because if it was commissioned, intellectual property belongs to the one who commissioned it, not to the creator.

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    10. Pero kung iisipin, ang Tala at Dati-dati naging sikat dahil sa sayaw hindi dahil sa actual na kanta. Maraming gumagaya ng sayaw pero walang gumagaya ng kanta.

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  41. Ok teacher G. You are done! At least for a while. Sara is known to be kind and compassionate and took advantage

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  42. Congrats to The A-Team PH for doing great in SG's milestone concert. Madami rin pang magagaling na hiphop dance groups sa Phl. They compete and win internationally. Isa na ang The A-Team dun.

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    1. Yes at magagaling talaga. May mga finafollow ako sa Tiktok na nung una di ko alam member pala ng A-Team, gagaling. May angas at gigil sa dance floor.

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  43. Teacher G, every day, months, weeks and every single year may bago dumating na dancers na mas Young, fresh, and mas magaling. Hinde lang kayo puros ang bida dapat kayo nga mag bigay ng inspirasyon sa mga baguhan e kasi kayo more experience na share what you need to share dont be so selfish Always choose to be kind. Yun lang po. Bye

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  44. Matataas na rin ere ng mga dancers na ito ngayong nauso Tiktok 😆😆

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  45. Sarah had freedom this time, she is now handson sa projects nya. She wanted to give opportunity to others, mjnasama

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  46. Kaya nga BACKUP dancers, nasa backseat. Si sarah ang bida sa show. Bida bida si TG. She should have been humble enough na mafeel na karangalan na nga na mapasama sa 20th ng isang sarah g. Nangyari, siya pa nagmataas at nagmalaki na take us (GFORCE LANG) or we'll leave you.
    Inenvision siguro ni sarah na napakalaki ng venue, mas maganda nagkalat ang performers. Kung sumali naman gforce for sure they'll share the same centerstage. Hindi sila sa gilid gilid lang.
    Yung ibang choreo ba ni TG naningil siya kung gagamitin o si sarah lang ginanito nya?
    Kung tutuusin kung so many years na sila magkaibigan o marami nang pinagsamahan (at pinagkakitaan) puwede na tong presyong kaibigan na TF kundi man libre eh dahil it's a momentous celebration of the 20th

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  47. I find it funny to hear TG saying that she gave SG the gift of creative freedom. Uhm, no. If it was a gift of creative freedom, then you should have met SH halfway. But no, you were not ready to compromise which is why you pulled out 2 months prior the concert.

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    1. We should also take note that it was not hers to gift it to SG to begin with, since she was hired by SG and Viva, not the other way around. Her job was to deliver what her "employers" are asking for.

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  48. Ang hirap naman kapag choreographer, kasi hindi madali icopyright ang movements. Sana may magandang way to compensate dancers lalo na yung sikat na mga choreo ng mga songs

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    1. one time payment lang naman talaga sa choreo dapat. unheard ung babayaran sila every performance! so ridiculous

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    2. It's not that ridiculous. They just valued their time and effort as such. If ayaw i-avail due to budget constraints of the production, then hindi lang talaga mag push through ang deal. But no need to villainize people wanting to support their profession

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  49. Again, it's G- Force's loss. The concert turned out very successful even without them. While watching all of Sarah's performances, you wouldn't notice the difference between having G-Force and not. At par mahuhusay din naman ang mga dancers na kasama niya.

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  50. Dapat wag din gamitin ng G force ang musika ni Sarah para patas. Kung si Sarah nakagawa ng bagong steps, pwes, gumawa din kayo ng kantang babagay dun. Do not use Tala music.

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  51. Biglang nabuhusan siguro ng malamig na tubig si TG. Akala niya siguro hindi gaganda ang performance ni Sarah sa concert niya pag wala ang grupo nya. Jokes on you! Lol.

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    1. True, ang ganda pa rin ng kinalabasan. Sold out concert at very satisfied
      ang audience. Gforce wasn't missed

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  52. “Encouraging SG’s creative freedom”is not equal to leaving her high and dry a mere two months before the event. Such a vindictive move just because she didn’t want to share the stage with other dancers. Not something “a friend” would do. Sad because SG has so few friends already tapos ganyan pa ung ugali ng isa.

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  53. For TG to pull out of the concert with little time left, she probably thought she had the upper hand to make her demands. Akala niya siguro since gipit na sina SG sa oras they will give in to her. Buti nag-backfire sa kanya because at the end of the day, kahit ano pa ang dahilan niya, what they did was very unprofessional. Di man lang mag-compromise since long-time client nila sina SG at Viva? Good luck next time

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  54. Para silang kambal

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  55. If this is the case, magpa audition nalang si SG ng mga backup dancers niya, then hire a different choreographer every comeback.

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  56. And this is why you think twice in trusting too much, loving a colleague as a friend, and expecting everything will just fall into place smoothly when money and careers are involved!

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  57. Learn from Sexbomb na biglang ndi pumasok sa EB at napalitan ng EB Babes. Because of sigalot with EB management and Joy Cancio. If nagpaka professional lang sana sila.

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  58. Sarah, you are free to hire new back up dancers. It's time for you to manage your own choreography. Just saying. Lots of potential dancer who would wanna dance next to you. Give them a chance. Or, better yet, form a new dancing group.

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    1. yun nga point ni madam… maging free daw si sarah to decide for herself

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  59. She valued business over sa pinagsamahan nila ni SG.. Sad

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  60. It reminds me of the case of Sexbomb and Eat Bulaga. Nagmalaki ang manager and inalis/umalis sa EB, then naligwak ang grupo

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  61. Damage control

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  62. Kung hindi pa sikat si TG hindi yan magiinarte ng ganyan. At kahit ba may point siya sa pinaglalaban niya pwede rin naman ituro sa members niya na sometimes it’s not all about the money.

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