See, allowedna ang transgender, allowed na din ang married pero kulang pa din. Sige basta tao pwede ngagjoin, ganun na lang siguro ang gawing requirement
True. Yung hirap kasi ng training ang magiging problem dun. So dapat magreact din yung mga Women with Cancer or Women with Gastro problems? Masyadong pawoke na ang society ngayon.
12:13, girl, it’s an outright discrimination against people with HIV/AIDS. They basically don’t want to accept applicants with HIV/AIDS. If that’s not discrimination, what else would you call that?
I don't see anything wrong sa requirement ng Bb Pilipinas. I mean kahit naman sa regular job you are expected to be fit and healthy. Ito na naman ang mga pa woke at lahat nalang pinaglalaban.
Haller hibdi rin biro yung pagod at effort na mag aaral ka at rarampa kung san san once beauty title holder ka plus dapat nga of good image pa. Not that I am against HIV + folks pero I think justified yung reqt screening nila
Kailangan po kasi physically and mentally fit ang candidates. Hindi yung bigla na lang babagsak sa floor at naospital dahil hindi nakainom ng gamot on time or na-stress. Aminin na lang kasi na kasama sa trabaho nila yan, wag nang ipilit!
Di naman ngdiscriminate, it is stated there din naman not to impair physical condition ng contestants, para din nman sa knila yun. Unless you guys can categorize HIV as simple illness like cough and colds.
hiv patients have low immune system. How can she handle the training, the stress and then it doesnt end there. If she wins, andami ganap punta pa asia, africa north and south america!😊
Ano ba tong mga ngccomment obvious na walang alam. Hiv has medicines na po and they can be in a state as healthy as any one of us. At bawal po ngddiscriminate sa hiv kahit sa work dont u guys work in professional organizations? At hindi pa rin po allowed ang married or have been married. Sana bago mgcomment informed muna
I think if you have these diseases, it really depends on you if you're gonna join knowing you are contagious or would affect other contestants. Especially your roommates since a month, sila ung lagi kasama mo. I understand that they just want to protect other girls.
Halatang maledukado ka. Di po airborne ang HIV. Through personal contact siya nakukuha more on intercourse, blood transfer as well as hereditary. Research muna bago kuda.
1105 accla anong petsa na? Bakit naging contagious. Ikaw na nagpapatest yearly? Usually yung mga ganyan ka judgey yung hindi alam sarili nilang hiv status eh.
Pwede rin through sugat diba? If both an hiv positive candidate and another candidate have wounds or scratches, tapos nagkadikit sila, possible matransmit ang alam ko.
12:42 yun din nasa isip ko! I'm not 11:05, pero mukhang na-misinterpret ng ibang commenters ang comment niya. Anyone can correct me ah. Pero eto rin concern ko eh. Eto rin ang dahilan kung bakit ayaw ko bisitahin ang nambully sa akin nung high school na HIV positive. Thru blood pwede ma-transmit diba? What if nga may sugat (with blood) si HIV positive at dumikit siya sa isang negative naman? Nakakahawa yun diba? Or not? Ultimo ngang manicurista at tattoo artist naka gloves diba kasi nag iingat sila sa mga clients. Please educate me. I know it's not airborne.
Ano ba ‘to. Mas nakakahawa nga ang sibon at ubo. Mas sila ang pwede maka hawa if ma-contained sila sa isang room for 1 month sa HIV carrier kasi immuno compromised sila. Ung mga “girls” mo ung nakaka hawa. Sana di mo ako mahawa sa talino mo. Qiqil mo ako dai!
It takes certain volume of bodily fluid to pass on HIV. Ung mag dikit po ang balat ng gasgas to gasgas is not enough to pass it to someone. It’s 2023 dont depend on superstitions po. Hindi yan COVID na transmittable through slight contacf
8:57 Educate yourself too. It's very rare, but still possible according to webmd.com "From Touching an Open Wound on Someone Who Has HIV? Maybe. Body fluids like blood can pass through broken skin, wounds, or mucous membranes. But it's very rare".
Nakakabaliw ang comments especially ung nagsabi na contagious daw to other candidates at mga kasama, all the info is out there, sana maging informed bago magcomment
OA naman . Hindi naman siningle out yung HIV. Kung may cancer or health conditions hindi rin pwede. It just means you have to be in a tip top condition. We know how rigorous is the training for the pageant. Kung my mga underlying conditions ka at nag join ka ng pageant baka bigla ka nalang magcollapse.
Exactly the point! This is more on the health aspect and nothing discriminatory. The activities of the pageant are rigorous hence it’s just sensible to exclude those who may not be able to cope up.
true..dba if sasali nman talaga ng any kind of competition dapat in good health ka?dba maraming activities at travels pag nagjoin ka ng BBP?yun ngang in good condition napapagod at nasistress out, yun oa kayang mga may medical conditions?baka maging kargo pa ng BBP if may mangyari sa contestant, baka maging cause of delays pa..isip2 din ano..maraming iisipin pa yung mga organizers , baka dagdag pa yan sa isipin nla...
masyadong big deal eh hindi lang naman hiv ang nakalagay. minsan masyado tayong oa, masyado nating pinapalaki. oo mataas ang kaso natin ng hiv dito sa pinas pero beauty pageant yan so why blowing it out of proportion? why? ang aids? hindi? ang cancer? ang heart ailment? aheeesshh
Anong shunga don? They just wanted to make sure physically, mentally at emotionally stable hng candidate. Di biro ang sumali sa ganyan, dapat lang na umpisa pa lang sinasala na. Kesa naman ung nasa kalagitnaan na ng event, biglang nag-collapse, tapos sisisihin BBP.
Are there anyone with those sickness going to apply for BB? Are they the one condemning this guideline? Or is the noise coming from the woke people who likes to nitpick every little things?
Well, most likely, “healthy” girls will join the pageant. But that’s beside the point. Their guidelines/requirements only show how hypocritical the organization is. Their queens often “preach” about HIV awareness and mental health promotion. But, what they actually mean is, a person is only acceptable to them if you don’t have any actual medical and mental issues.
12:30 Hindi kakulangan sa pagkatao mo yung simpleng grammar error. Basahin mo yung whole context ng sentence. Kung malabo or walang sense, saka ka mag-reklamo!
Ako ang intindi ko is dapat physically, emotionally and mentally stable ka before joining kasi di madali ung pagdadaanan ha! Ungh mga puyatan, activities, pictorials ganun na exhausting. Ung point lang namn ng BB Pilipinas is need mo maging 100% healthy before joining.
I think this is done to protect the candidates as well. HIV and cancer patients are immunocompromised. What if magka-COVID sila or any other communicable disease during the pageant, di ba? Mas mahirap pa yun. I think hindi naman sila nag-discriminate. Kuda na lang nang kuda. Please naman. 🙄
Di ako sa HIV na-alarm, kundi sa pag cancel out ng may case of mental health issues. Even Kylie V, Pia and other queens battled with those. Madami madidisqualify kung ganun. Dapat well-delineated ang terms pati timeline. Better yet, change the pageant to Miss Perfect.
Shouldnt you try to handle your mental health first before indulging yourself in physical emotional and mental activities? Baka magbreakdown lalo ang may mental illness kung sakali
E di ba nga lumaban at nanalo yung mga namention na queens sa taas with their existing mental health challenges? So parang may loopholes pag ganyan ang rules. Sana mas detalyado.
Yung may medical diagnosis ng mental condition di naman lagi symptomatic, may times na okay pero lifetime illness. Example yung treated with bipolar, like Meryl Soriano. Stable at naggagamot pero andyan ang kundisyon. Ang di lang ako aprub yung stigma sa mental health condition.
Isa ka pang pa-woke at eksaherada.Te, kung alam mong hindi mo kakayanin ang mental stress, why put yourself on it in the first place? And NOPE, there's no need to change it to Miss Perfect. Miss Universe is more than enough. Universe na yan te ibig sabihin ikaw na yung best sa bansa mo.
Gusto nila healthy ang candidate. Syempre rigorous ang sched plus preparation kaya dapat walang sakit. Di naman na single out kasi madaming nakalista. Bakit masyadong affected at aping api?
Oh my gad! This is getting pathetic and absurd.Ang klaro naman ng explanation kung bakit hindi pwedeng sumali yung meron sa mga binanggit na diseases and illnesses. You have to be healthy mentally, physically, and emotionally.
Yung mga sakitin o may malubhang sakit, talagang bawal sa inyo yun. Di nyo kakayin ang pressure.
Yung nag advocate, they're there to help you not to be discrimated but that doesn't mean sasali kayo sa pageant.
Also, if may HIV, utang na loob kayo nlng po mg avoid. Be concern for others, huwag palaging ibang tao mg adjust sa inyo. Risky yung condition nyo not only to others but to yourself as well.
Hindi ba dapat taken in full context yung clause? It says at the end something about the possibility that the illness “will impair the candidate physically, mentally, etc”. Giving them the benefit of the doubt, maybe it’s not the illness per se but the capability to represent the country in such a tiring, competitive atmosphere. Not just the pageant but the preparations leading up to it. The country demands so much from the representatives so I think the organization is just ensuring fitness to participate and perform at a competitive level.
Baka naman kahit people living with HIV pero managed they will allow given the ending clause
This is not about HIV status per se, if you can see and comprehend clearly its because all the above mentioned medical conditions would make a candidate immunocompromised. This is to prevent waste of time training a queen then eventually she cannot perform her duties because of her health status.
Ang dami pa rin palang uneducated pagdating sa hiv..hence the stigma... Pag plhiv at undetectable ka, you are as good as normal people at pwedeng pwede makipagsabayan sa iba.. be in it physical or mental... Actually kahit former cancer patient/cancer free is not a limitation na ..
12:06 ikaw dapat ang mag educate sa sarili. By the word itself “Human Immunodeficiency Virus” . Immunocompromised ang may sakit teh. And do you know that the medication they take suppresses their immune system too? Kung nagka covid pa sila nyan at nag collapse dahil sa puyatan at rigorous training BP pa ang maging liable.
But still you have to disclose it coz it is part of your past medical history. This is not to stigmatize someone who has HIV, cancer or heart diseases or has psychological issues but a safeguard for their safety in a highly stressful environment such as BBP competition.
Isa ka pala sa mga feeling discriminated sa policy na yan. Girl basahin mo isa isa mga comment dito para maliwanagan ka. Huwag maging emotional. Sa kasong to, you should be logical and objective.
Immunocompromised sila teh! Need malaman ng org to protect them as well. Lalo na ngayon may covid covid na. Madali sila magkasakit aside pa from pressure at stress sa competition. Puro awrahan, rampa, etc.
SA MGA PA-ADVOCATE DYAN: Natural magtatanong ang Binibining Pilipinas kung may sakit na ganito dahil kelangan ring iconsider ng Binibining Pilipinas kung makakaya ba ng sasali kung meron syang HIV or mental health issues, dahil whether we like it or not, the candidates will be placed under extreme pressure and busy schedule. WAG DAYUKDOK, wag lahat na lang ng issue ay may pa safe space eklat etc. Kung mamatay ang sumali and ang proximate cause ng death nya ay yung sakit nya, SASAGUTIN BA NG MGA PA ADVOCATE NA ITO?!? Mag isip nga kayo.
For safety yan ng may sakit. Kc hectic and high pressure ang pagents much more BBP. Pde mtrigger ang sakit sa stress. Un lng iniiwasan. Lahat nlng ba? Prng pagsakay ng rides yan e. Un may sakit sa pusa bawal sumakay pro ndi ibg sbhin dndiscriminate ka.
malamang nakakapagod ang beauty pageants dapat healthy ka. do you think people with cancer and aids can compete? ei magkakasakit lang sila doon due to exposure sa germs etc.
Mahihirapan kasi yung mga contestants na gampanan yung mga tasks kung may health concerns sila. Makakagulo pa sila sa pageant kapag doon sila inatake or what. Safety rin nila yung iniisip ng organizers at syempre, yung liability rin ng org kapag may nangyari sa mga contestants. Juskopo naman.
Well may karapatan mag set ng sariling policy ang mga private business at siguro itong policy na ito na nakabase sa kung anong klaseng health ang pasok sa ganitong aktibidades. Like for example cancer, this involves treatment at maya't-maya may treatment schedule ka. So you cant really tell when you are free and what side-effects you're going to have.
Para namang singled-out yung HIV /Aids. Hindi lang naman HIV / Aids ang nilagay. May Cancer din, epilepsy. So dapat ba magreact din mga Cancer and epilepsy groups / society? Dapat din ba silang ma-offend dahil special mention sila?
I think they are just safeguarding the welfare of the contestants. Pageants are very stressful physically and mentally, and stress could lower the immune system.
Mahina immune system pg may HIV. High risk esp if makakasalamuha ng galing kung san sang bansa if 3ver mag compete locally or intl. Napaka snowflake naman. Lahat issue. Lahat abt discrimination agad instead of trying to understand what the guidance is for
I am all for HIV awareness but this is stretching it. BPCI has the right to require their contestants to be healthy, and anyone who isn't in her tiptop shape can be a financial liability if something goes wrong in the middle of the competition.
I think they missed the point, all these illness listed have compromised immune system. Sa schedule ng activities nila Baka Hindi kayanin, hindi lang ito during the pageant ha Tapos what if manalo and then lumala ang sakit? She wont be able to fulfill her duties.
Physically, mentally fit … see, Magic Johnson. Cancer, see Tig Notaro, Angelina Jolie, Cristina Applegate. Gastro and others, see Jane DeLeon, Darna’s still taping.
Agree with Bb org. Immunocompromised at high risk sila lalo na extensive ang training at detrimental sa health ng candidate specially hindi pa out of business si COVID. Dapat fit and well ka para magjoin para macarry out mo responsibility mo as beauty queen kc lagi kang nakaengage sa crowd.
Masyado parang lahat na lang may discrmination.. its standard na dapat physically, mentally, emotionally fit..kayang sabakang ang puyat, rigourous training, mga appointments and meetings n walang humpay at mga grabrng critics..minsan lumugar din dapat ss kung saan dapat lumugar..
Yun ngang sumasali na healthy, nagkakasakit and stress what more pa yung may underlying condition. Jusko itong mga pawoke na ito makagawa lang ng issue sa twitter, pang likes at retweet.
Agree sa comments sa taas. Binasa nga ang rules, di naman inintindi. Lahat offensive. Lahat big deal this generation. Hahanap talaga ng mali at mag e-essay naman agad sa socmed.
nothing against people with HIV but this kind of reaction is too entitled .. maraming pagdadaanang trainings, guestings, mabilisang make up, nakakapagod na rampa-rampa.. kahit pa undetectable na yung virus and super healthy ka there's still a risk na manghina or magkasakit dahil sa stress.
Eto na naman tayo, it is a DISCLOSURE about the health of the would-be candidate. The statement does not state any discrimination against HIV/AIDS to be specific in short wala sa statement na HINDI PWEDE SUMALI ANG MERON HIV. Sana lang before giving such statement in public, clarify muna.
Their pageant. Their rules. Stop supporting them, stop watching their pageant, if their beliefs do not align with your. But you cannot force them to follow your own beliefs.
Hindi ako nakuha sa SM kasi bumagsak ako sa medical exam nila for being hypertensive. Kelangan ko ba i call out ang SM sa pagdiscriminate sa aming mga may hypertension? Hehe
Haha same. Ako naman nag aapply na manager sa isang fast food. Paglabas ng medical ko nakita may white spot sa lungs ko. Pina ulit sa akin ang xray sa ibang lab na hindi nila partner. Same pa din. Meron pala ako possible PTB kaya nag gamot muna ako. At hindi ako tinanggap. Naintindihan ko naman kasi kay risk sa akin.
Isa ka pa.1242. Sa food industry Tina try na iwasan ang May tb kasi madami ka kasalamuha at food preparation. Di mo naman alam kung active or scar yung nasa lungs kaya nga sha pinainom ng gamot eh. Endemic ang tb sa pinas kaya nga ingat dito. Yun lang yun. Kung gusto mo punta ka resto na possible magkalat ng tb staff sayo ikaw na lang kasi mas Matindi ang tb pag di magamot ng tama kesa sa omicron. Public health safety iyun. May boundaries yang discrimination.
Ang mga netizen kasi pawoke. Lahat na lang pupunahin. Tigil tigilan nyo na Kakainternet at social media uy!!! Masama na sa mental health nyo yan kada salita triggered na kayo. Mag patingin na kayo, Hindi na healthy yan.
Lahat na lang iniissue. Physically draining ang beaucon, alaganaman sakitin ka mamya magkasakit ka pa during the course of the contest, sagutin ka pa nila.
Hindi naman sa discrimination but the pageant and role requires rigorous training. Means they need someone of best health. Also for indemnity. Pag napano ka bilang immuno compromised ka kasi pinilit natin isali.. sino mananagot
Marami pa talagang hindi edukado sa hiv/ aids awareness… nanonood ng ms. U na advocacy and hiv/aids awareness pero hindi pa rin alam. Lol! Well, pinoys nga naman.
Let me educate you.
Hiv: for as long as you take your medication and your viral load is below a certain level, you are as healthy as a person with no hiv. In fact kahit magtalik kayo na walang protection hindi ka makakakuha ng hiv basta managed ang condition with medication. Hiv if managed within medication, on average of 3 months ok ka na for as long as you take medication (paulit ulit!). The life expectancy is the same as a person with no hiv, for as long as you are taking you medication na once a day. Parang hypertension and category na niya. Sabi nga ng iba, mas madali pang mamanage ang hiv vs. diabetes. Stigma lang talaga sa mga tao ang barrier ngayon.
Aids: if you dont take your medication, it will lead to aids (parang stage 4 cancer). Dyan mahihirapan ka na sumali sa ms. U.
Funny kasi wala ako nakikita na babae na nagrereklamo regarding hiv discrimination. Prioritize your health bago rumampa. Dinadamay pa cancer survivors para sa cause nila at ijustify na may discrimination. Amanakayo mga accla.
Even if you are cabcer or hiv survivors, you need to live a stress-free life and still has health risks. Hindi lang beaucon ang avenue for beauty and cause.
This pageants have now become a joke! Dami social issues na pinipilit to the point of losing the essence of what the competition is all about. Wala na yung essence.
Woke culture should be canceled.Lahat na lang issue sa mga taong yan sobrang snowflakes.Sila yung mga tao na sobra palalakihin ang issue na di naman dapat tas pag na confront at risk na ang mental health nila.
Hindi naiintindihan kase po kasama sa contract ang makipag compete sa ibang bansa. Paano sila mabibigyan nga medical na fit to travel aaaaatttt visa may mga countries kase na mahigpit..hinsi yan discrimination.standard yan sa lahat ng beaucon wag tayo pa ignorante
Sabi ng lgbtq sila ay discriminated, but i sincerely believe people dont discriminate them because of their preference but because of these feeling entitled behavior. It is the attitude na nakakasuya na porket lgbtq kailangan pagbigyan akala ko ba equality. Respect the rights of others also
Binalikan ko ang article na eto kasi I'm currently watching AHS 11 NYC. Ang sad! Tungkol sa HIV/AIDS ang season na yun. Nagbago tuloy pananaw ko. Yung mga nag tweet, real advocates ang mga yan. Hindi sila pa-advocate. Kaya sobrang triggered sila. Intense ang reaction nila against sa discrimination to PLHIV. Grabe ang discrimination noon. Hanggang ngayon meron pa rin discrimination. Nakakaiyak.
eto na naman tayo... ayoko na lang mag talk... lahat na lang... my gosh
ReplyDeleteTrue. Anong discrimination don? Eh sakit naman talaga ang HIV eh di kailangan idisclose kung kailangan. Anong discrimination don
DeleteSee, allowedna ang transgender, allowed na din ang married pero kulang pa din. Sige basta tao pwede ngagjoin, ganun na lang siguro ang gawing requirement
DeleteDiscriminated mga MATATABA, mga unano, at magaspang na kutis! BEAUTY CONTEST NGA KASI!!!!!!!
DeleteOMG YES!
DeleteTrue. Yung hirap kasi ng training ang magiging problem dun. So dapat magreact din yung mga Women with Cancer or Women with Gastro problems? Masyadong pawoke na ang society ngayon.
Delete12:13, girl, it’s an outright discrimination against people with HIV/AIDS. They basically don’t want to accept applicants with HIV/AIDS. If that’s not discrimination, what else would you call that?
DeleteTrue!!! Mga tao ngaun porke’t may kalayaan mgsalita, laht na lng ng bagay ginagawang nega
DeleteThe winner must be fit kasi andami nya responsibilities after. Hay, lahat na laaaaang nga!
DeleteI don't see anything wrong sa requirement ng Bb Pilipinas. I mean kahit naman sa regular job you are expected to be fit and healthy. Ito na naman ang mga pa woke at lahat nalang pinaglalaban.
DeleteHaller hibdi rin biro yung pagod at effort na mag aaral ka at rarampa kung san san once beauty title holder ka plus dapat nga of good image pa. Not that I am against HIV + folks pero I think justified yung reqt screening nila
Kailangan po kasi physically and mentally fit ang candidates. Hindi yung bigla na lang babagsak sa floor at naospital dahil hindi nakainom ng gamot on time or na-stress. Aminin na lang kasi na kasama sa trabaho nila yan, wag nang ipilit!
DeleteKalokang mga to!
Di naman ngdiscriminate, it is stated there din naman not to impair physical condition ng contestants, para din nman sa knila yun. Unless you guys can categorize HIV as simple illness like cough and colds.
Deletehiv patients have low immune system. How can she handle the training, the stress and then it doesnt end there. If she wins, andami ganap punta pa asia, africa north and south america!😊
Deleteagree 7:40 and 1:48
DeleteAko nga na hindi pasok sa height at measurement requirements hindi naman nagrereklamo. Hahaha
Delete2:20am LOL
DeleteMga ito ayaw mag talk kasi hindi alam ang batas also baka wala ring alam about HIV. In short mga mangmang. Facepalm!
DeleteAno ba tong mga ngccomment obvious na walang alam. Hiv has medicines na po and they can be in a state as healthy as any one of us. At bawal po ngddiscriminate sa hiv kahit sa work dont u guys work in professional organizations? At hindi pa rin po allowed ang married or have been married. Sana bago mgcomment informed muna
DeleteI think if you have these diseases, it really depends on you if you're gonna join knowing you are contagious or would affect other contestants. Especially your roommates since a month, sila ung lagi kasama mo. I understand that they just want to protect other girls.
ReplyDeleteAnong contagious pinagsasabi mo? Hindi po basta basta nakakahawa ang HIV unless may intercourse or through blood. 2023 di mo pa alam
DeleteHalatang maledukado ka. Di po airborne ang HIV. Through personal contact siya nakukuha more on intercourse, blood transfer as well as hereditary. Research muna bago kuda.
Delete1105 accla anong petsa na? Bakit naging contagious. Ikaw na nagpapatest yearly? Usually yung mga ganyan ka judgey yung hindi alam sarili nilang hiv status eh.
DeletePwede rin through sugat diba? If both an hiv positive candidate and another candidate have wounds or scratches, tapos nagkadikit sila, possible matransmit ang alam ko.
DeleteJusko 2023 na hindi mo pa rin alam kung paano nakukuha HIV. Di po sya nakukuha by just sharing a room. 🙄
DeleteMygahd gurl. Ang shunga shunga mo. Ang tagal tagal nang tinuturo ang HIV, cancer, etc tpos nagmamagaling ka at sabihin contagious sya ala air borned.
DeleteWHAT do you know the meaning of contagious?
Delete12:42 yun din nasa isip ko! I'm not 11:05, pero mukhang na-misinterpret ng ibang commenters ang comment niya. Anyone can correct me ah. Pero eto rin concern ko eh. Eto rin ang dahilan kung bakit ayaw ko bisitahin ang nambully sa akin nung high school na HIV positive. Thru blood pwede ma-transmit diba? What if nga may sugat (with blood) si HIV positive at dumikit siya sa isang negative naman? Nakakahawa yun diba? Or not? Ultimo ngang manicurista at tattoo artist naka gloves diba kasi nag iingat sila sa mga clients. Please educate me. I know it's not airborne.
Delete1:09 shunga ka rin airborned
DeleteAccla ka 2023 na i-educate mo naman sarili mo about these stuff
Delete12:42 no lol
Delete1242 that only works kung yung sugatan ay dahil nag saksakan sila and by then, you have bigger problems.
DeleteAno ba ‘to. Mas nakakahawa nga ang sibon at ubo. Mas sila ang pwede maka hawa if ma-contained sila sa isang room for 1 month sa HIV carrier kasi immuno compromised sila. Ung mga “girls” mo ung nakaka hawa. Sana di mo ako mahawa sa talino mo. Qiqil mo ako dai!
DeleteI think gusto lang nila na maging safe ung mga immuno compromised for their welfare. Di lang maganda pag kaka sulat ng rules and regulations nila.
DeleteHIV po ha, hind covid.
Delete12:42, no. Please educate yourself. 2023 na mamsh.
Delete1:09 shunga ka rin...airborned
Delete9:14 nalagyan lang nang space.......okay. Ang Oa mo nman💅💅
Deletegirl wala sa space ang sinsabi ko...airborn hindi airborned or air borned jusmio
DeleteIt takes certain volume of bodily fluid to pass on HIV. Ung mag dikit po ang balat ng gasgas to gasgas is not enough to pass it to someone. It’s 2023 dont depend on superstitions po. Hindi yan COVID na transmittable through slight contacf
Deleteafter mo magbasa ng fp, magopen ka ng isa pang tab to read more on hiv. kulang pa teh, kaya pa ba?
Delete8:57 Educate yourself too. It's very rare, but still possible according to webmd.com
Delete"From Touching an Open Wound on Someone Who Has HIV?
Maybe. Body fluids like blood can pass through broken skin, wounds, or mucous membranes. But it's very rare".
9:22 lol webmd is big pharma’s dream and a hypochondriac’s nightmare.
DeleteNakakabaliw ang comments especially ung nagsabi na contagious daw to other candidates at mga kasama, all the info is out there, sana maging informed bago magcomment
DeleteOA naman . Hindi naman siningle out yung HIV. Kung may cancer or health conditions hindi rin pwede. It just means you have to be in a tip top condition. We know how rigorous is the training for the pageant. Kung my mga underlying conditions ka at nag join ka ng pageant baka bigla ka nalang magcollapse.
ReplyDeleteTapos pag bumaba ang immune system dahil sa pagod at magkasakit, kasalanan pacrin ng BBP - whatever ailment a potential candidate might have.
DeleteWoke is real, lahat na lang issue
DeleteYou're right.
DeleteThis.
DeleteExactly the point! This is more on the health aspect and nothing discriminatory.
DeleteThe activities of the pageant are rigorous hence it’s just sensible to exclude those who may not be able to cope up.
true..dba if sasali nman talaga ng any kind of competition dapat in good health ka?dba maraming activities at travels pag nagjoin ka ng BBP?yun ngang in good condition napapagod at nasistress out, yun oa kayang mga may medical conditions?baka maging kargo pa ng BBP if may mangyari sa contestant, baka maging cause of delays pa..isip2 din ano..maraming iisipin pa yung mga organizers , baka dagdag pa yan sa isipin nla...
Deletemasyadong big deal eh hindi lang naman hiv ang nakalagay. minsan masyado tayong oa, masyado nating pinapalaki. oo mataas ang kaso natin ng hiv dito sa pinas pero beauty pageant yan so why blowing it out of proportion? why? ang aids? hindi? ang cancer? ang heart ailment? aheeesshh
ReplyDeleteAno kaya ang masasabi ni Queen P. She’s known to be an advocate for HIV even behind cam
ReplyDeleteYung sa kanya awareness and prevention.
DeleteWala naman yang advocacy nila. Char char lang yan para may sagot sa QA.
DeletePangpa ingay lang yan ng BBP or ganyan sila ka shunga?
ReplyDeleteAnong shunga don? They just wanted to make sure physically, mentally at emotionally stable hng candidate. Di biro ang sumali sa ganyan, dapat lang na umpisa pa lang sinasala na. Kesa naman ung nasa kalagitnaan na ng event, biglang nag-collapse, tapos sisisihin BBP.
DeleteAre there anyone with those sickness going to apply for BB? Are they the one condemning this guideline? Or is the noise coming from the woke people who likes to nitpick every little things?
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Pakiaayos muna yung sariling kakulangan bago mangbash ng iba.
Agree! Puro mga snowflake
DeleteWell, most likely, “healthy” girls will join the pageant. But that’s beside the point. Their guidelines/requirements only show how hypocritical the organization is. Their queens often “preach” about HIV awareness and mental health promotion. But, what they actually mean is, a person is only acceptable to them if you don’t have any actual medical and mental issues.
Delete12:30 Hindi kakulangan sa pagkatao mo yung simpleng grammar error. Basahin mo yung whole context ng sentence. Kung malabo or walang sense, saka ka mag-reklamo!
DeleteIsa ka pang woke 12:30.
DeleteIkaw na walang kakulangan 12:30am. Since magaling ka magenglish, bakit di mo tinama si 11:22am ng english?
DeleteAko ang intindi ko is dapat physically, emotionally and mentally stable ka before joining kasi di madali ung pagdadaanan ha! Ungh mga puyatan, activities, pictorials ganun na exhausting. Ung point lang namn ng BB Pilipinas is need mo maging 100% healthy before joining.
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DeleteI think this is done to protect the candidates as well. HIV and cancer patients are immunocompromised. What if magka-COVID sila or any other communicable disease during the pageant, di ba? Mas mahirap pa yun. I think hindi naman sila nag-discriminate. Kuda na lang nang kuda. Please naman. 🙄
ReplyDeleteAgree!
DeleteIkr! They have to specify ano yung mga sakit para clear. Pagka nga naman nagkasakit bigla while training e di kasalanan pa din ng bpci susko
DeleteWalking on egg shells na naman tayo. When everything is always taken out of it's real context.
ReplyDeleteDi ako sa HIV na-alarm, kundi sa pag cancel out ng may case of mental health issues. Even Kylie V, Pia and other queens battled with those. Madami madidisqualify kung ganun. Dapat well-delineated ang terms pati timeline. Better yet, change the pageant to Miss Perfect.
ReplyDeleteIf you're not mentally fit then why endulge yourself in a strenuous & mentally draining activity such as pageants?
DeleteShouldnt you try to handle your mental health first before indulging yourself in physical emotional and mental activities? Baka magbreakdown lalo ang may mental illness kung sakali
DeleteSusme e nakaka stress ang pageant. Kung hindi stable ang mental health or may anxiety, then hindi ka puwede sumali.
DeleteE di ba nga lumaban at nanalo yung mga namention na queens sa taas with their existing mental health challenges? So parang may loopholes pag ganyan ang rules. Sana mas detalyado.
DeleteYung may medical diagnosis ng mental condition di naman lagi symptomatic, may times na okay pero lifetime illness. Example yung treated with bipolar, like Meryl Soriano. Stable at naggagamot pero andyan ang kundisyon. Ang di lang ako aprub yung stigma sa mental health condition.
DeleteIsa ka pang pa-woke at eksaherada.Te, kung alam mong hindi mo kakayanin ang mental stress, why put yourself on it in the first place? And NOPE, there's no need to change it to Miss Perfect. Miss Universe is more than enough. Universe na yan te ibig sabihin ikaw na yung best sa bansa mo.
DeleteANG OA! Syempre kung sasali ka sa ganyan make sure na healthy ka!
ReplyDeleteGusto nila healthy ang candidate. Syempre rigorous ang sched plus preparation kaya dapat walang sakit. Di naman na single out kasi madaming nakalista. Bakit masyadong affected at aping api?
ReplyDeleteOh my gad! This is getting pathetic and absurd.Ang klaro naman ng explanation kung bakit hindi pwedeng sumali yung meron sa mga binanggit na diseases and illnesses. You have to be healthy mentally, physically, and emotionally.
ReplyDeleteNapakasensitive naman ng mga tao ngayon, kulang s understanding minsan Basta nalang magreact hayyyy
ReplyDeleteYung mga sakitin o may malubhang sakit, talagang bawal sa inyo yun. Di nyo kakayin ang pressure.
ReplyDeleteYung nag advocate, they're there to help you not to be discrimated but that doesn't mean sasali kayo sa pageant.
Also, if may HIV, utang na loob kayo nlng po mg avoid. Be concern for others, huwag palaging ibang tao mg adjust sa inyo. Risky yung condition nyo not only to others but to yourself as well.
Hindi ba dapat taken in full context yung clause? It says at the end something about the possibility that the illness “will impair the candidate physically, mentally, etc”. Giving them the benefit of the doubt, maybe it’s not the illness per se but the capability to represent the country in such a tiring, competitive atmosphere. Not just the pageant but the preparations leading up to it. The country demands so much from the representatives so I think the organization is just ensuring fitness to participate and perform at a competitive level.
ReplyDeleteBaka naman kahit people living with HIV pero managed they will allow given the ending clause
hayst lahat na lang..ang se-sensitive nyo, ilagay nyo naman po sa lugar.. pa-wokes
ReplyDeleteThis is not about HIV status per se, if you can see and comprehend clearly its because all the above mentioned medical conditions would make a candidate immunocompromised. This is to prevent waste of time training a queen then eventually she cannot perform her duties because of her health status.
ReplyDeleteGrabe talaga pa-woke mga tao ngayon, lahat na lang pinakialaman. Pati ba naman rules ng BPCI. Huwag kayo sumali.
ReplyDeletelahat kamo offensive sa kanila. parang ang exhausting to be them.
DeleteAng dami pa rin palang uneducated pagdating sa hiv..hence the stigma... Pag plhiv at undetectable ka, you are as good as normal people at pwedeng pwede makipagsabayan sa iba.. be in it physical or mental... Actually kahit former cancer patient/cancer free is not a limitation na ..
ReplyDelete12:06 ikaw dapat ang mag educate sa sarili. By the word itself “Human Immunodeficiency Virus” . Immunocompromised ang may sakit teh. And do you know that the medication they take suppresses their immune system too? Kung nagka covid pa sila nyan at nag collapse dahil sa puyatan at rigorous training BP pa ang maging liable.
DeleteBut still you have to disclose it coz it is part of your past medical history. This is not to stigmatize someone who has HIV, cancer or heart diseases or has psychological issues but a safeguard for their safety in a highly stressful environment such as BBP competition.
DeleteIsa ka pala sa mga feeling discriminated sa policy na yan. Girl basahin mo isa isa mga comment dito para maliwanagan ka. Huwag maging emotional. Sa kasong to, you should be logical and objective.
DeleteImmunocompromised sila teh! Need malaman ng org to protect them as well. Lalo na ngayon may covid covid na. Madali sila magkasakit aside pa from pressure at stress sa competition. Puro awrahan, rampa, etc.
DeleteHindi immunocompromised ang taong may hiv whos taking medication.
DeleteDami nilang think pieces pero hindi naman sila makakasali diyan.
ReplyDeleteSA MGA PA-ADVOCATE DYAN: Natural magtatanong ang Binibining Pilipinas kung may sakit na ganito dahil kelangan ring iconsider ng Binibining Pilipinas kung makakaya ba ng sasali kung meron syang HIV or mental health issues, dahil whether we like it or not, the candidates will be placed under extreme pressure and busy schedule. WAG DAYUKDOK, wag lahat na lang ng issue ay may pa safe space eklat etc. Kung mamatay ang sumali and ang proximate cause ng death nya ay yung sakit nya, SASAGUTIN BA NG MGA PA ADVOCATE NA ITO?!? Mag isip nga kayo.
ReplyDeletetheir contest, their rules
ReplyDeletehaay naku daming OA at pa woke
Hay anu ba naman ang nangyayari sa earth anu? Lahat na lang bwahaha. Common sense is not so common these days.
ReplyDeleteFor safety yan ng may sakit. Kc hectic and high pressure ang pagents much more BBP. Pde mtrigger ang sakit sa stress. Un lng iniiwasan. Lahat nlng ba? Prng pagsakay ng rides yan e. Un may sakit sa pusa bawal sumakay pro ndi ibg sbhin dndiscriminate ka.
ReplyDeleteWag kame.
Deletemalamang nakakapagod ang beauty pageants dapat healthy ka. do you think people with cancer and aids can compete? ei magkakasakit lang sila doon due to exposure sa germs etc.
ReplyDeleteMahihirapan kasi yung mga contestants na gampanan yung mga tasks kung may health concerns sila. Makakagulo pa sila sa pageant kapag doon sila inatake or what. Safety rin nila yung iniisip ng organizers at syempre, yung liability rin ng org kapag may nangyari sa mga contestants. Juskopo naman.
ReplyDeleteWell may karapatan mag set ng sariling policy ang mga private business at siguro itong policy na ito na nakabase sa kung anong klaseng health ang pasok sa ganitong aktibidades. Like for example cancer, this involves treatment at maya't-maya may treatment schedule ka. So you cant really tell when you are free and what side-effects you're going to have.
ReplyDeleteAgree ako sa health requirements. PERIOD.
ReplyDeletePara namang singled-out yung HIV /Aids. Hindi lang naman HIV / Aids ang nilagay. May Cancer din, epilepsy. So dapat ba magreact din mga Cancer and epilepsy groups / society? Dapat din ba silang ma-offend dahil special mention sila?
ReplyDeleteGeeee these people sobrang ingay!! Pati ba naman yan big deal!! Gosh oh gosh talaga!! Shatayp na lang kayo ok!!
ReplyDeleteAng sensitive naman ng mga "advocates" ng HIV. Yung cancer society, etc... nag react ba???
ReplyDeleteI think they are just safeguarding the welfare of the contestants. Pageants are very stressful physically and mentally, and stress could lower the immune system.
ReplyDeleteAnong problema dito? E kahit naman magaapply ka ng trabaho, need mo magundergo ng medical exam at idisclose ang mga sakit mo. Masyadong OA na ha
ReplyDeleteKalma lang
ReplyDeleteKasi kadalasan pagod puyat gutom sila jan
Mas mahirap kung mahina immune system mo
Ang dami nyong gusto mygosh
ReplyDeleteMahina immune system pg may HIV. High risk esp if makakasalamuha ng galing kung san sang bansa if 3ver mag compete locally or intl. Napaka snowflake naman. Lahat issue. Lahat abt discrimination agad instead of trying to understand what the guidance is for
ReplyDeleteI am all for HIV awareness but this is stretching it. BPCI has the right to require their contestants to be healthy, and anyone who isn't in her tiptop shape can be a financial liability if something goes wrong in the middle of the competition.
ReplyDeleteI think they missed the point, all these illness listed have compromised immune system. Sa schedule ng activities nila Baka Hindi kayanin, hindi lang ito during the pageant ha Tapos what if manalo and then lumala ang sakit? She wont be able to fulfill her duties.
ReplyDeletePhysically, mentally fit … see, Magic Johnson. Cancer, see Tig Notaro, Angelina Jolie, Cristina Applegate. Gastro and others, see Jane DeLeon, Darna’s still taping.
ReplyDeleteAgree with Bb org. Immunocompromised at high risk sila lalo na extensive ang training at detrimental sa health ng candidate specially hindi pa out of business si COVID. Dapat fit and well ka para magjoin para macarry out mo responsibility mo as beauty queen kc lagi kang nakaengage sa crowd.
ReplyDeleteOa, eh kelangan naman talaga healthy yong candidate.
ReplyDeleteMasyado parang lahat na lang may discrmination.. its standard na dapat physically, mentally, emotionally fit..kayang sabakang ang puyat, rigourous training, mga appointments and meetings n walang humpay at mga grabrng critics..minsan lumugar din dapat ss kung saan dapat lumugar..
ReplyDeleteYun ngang sumasali na healthy, nagkakasakit and stress what more pa yung may underlying condition. Jusko itong mga pawoke na ito makagawa lang ng issue sa twitter, pang likes at retweet.
ReplyDeleteAgree sa comments sa taas. Binasa nga ang rules, di naman inintindi. Lahat offensive. Lahat big deal this generation. Hahanap talaga ng mali at mag e-essay naman agad sa socmed.
ReplyDeletenothing against people with HIV but this kind of reaction is too entitled .. maraming pagdadaanang trainings, guestings, mabilisang make up, nakakapagod na rampa-rampa.. kahit pa undetectable na yung virus and super healthy ka there's still a risk na manghina or magkasakit dahil sa stress.
ReplyDeleteExactly. Health ang pinaguusapan dito paano kung sila masisi. Hay onion.
DeleteEto na naman tayo, it is a DISCLOSURE about the health of the would-be candidate. The statement does not state any discrimination against HIV/AIDS to be specific in short wala sa statement na HINDI PWEDE SUMALI ANG MERON HIV. Sana lang before giving such statement in public, clarify muna.
ReplyDeleteBulag bulagan teh? Bakit pinapadisclose aber
DeleteI dont see any discrimination here, wag maging so sensitive....
ReplyDeleteTpos if may mangyare sa competition sagutin pa nila kayo, kasalanan pa ng BBP. Dme nyo alam, dme nyo pa advocate dyan.
ReplyDeleteTama lang un. Pano kung bigla syang himatayin during conpetition? Pinapaingay na naman tong conpetition na to.
ReplyDeleteTheir pageant. Their rules.
ReplyDeleteStop supporting them, stop watching their pageant, if their beliefs do not align with your.
But you cannot force them to follow your own beliefs.
Hindi ako nakuha sa SM kasi bumagsak ako sa medical exam nila for being hypertensive. Kelangan ko ba i call out ang SM sa pagdiscriminate sa aming mga may hypertension? Hehe
ReplyDeleteHaha same. Ako naman nag aapply na manager sa isang fast food. Paglabas ng medical ko nakita may white spot sa lungs ko. Pina ulit sa akin ang xray sa ibang lab na hindi nila partner. Same pa din. Meron pala ako possible PTB kaya nag gamot muna ako. At hindi ako tinanggap. Naintindihan ko naman kasi kay risk sa akin.
DeleteMay gamot ka ba for that or baka boderline lang? If the latter, then what they did is a form of discrimination.
DeleteIsa ka pa.1242. Sa food industry Tina try na iwasan ang May tb kasi madami ka kasalamuha at food preparation. Di mo naman alam kung active or scar yung nasa lungs kaya nga sha pinainom ng gamot eh. Endemic ang tb sa pinas kaya nga ingat dito. Yun lang yun. Kung gusto mo punta ka resto na possible magkalat ng tb staff sayo ikaw na lang kasi mas Matindi ang tb pag di magamot ng tama kesa sa omicron. Public health safety iyun. May boundaries yang discrimination.
DeleteSa dami nang sakit na specify bakit singled out ang aids.
ReplyDeleteBecause people will always, ALWAYS find something to be offended with.
DeleteMismo. Wala ka naman madinig doon sa mga may ibang nabanggit na may sakit. Ito lang ibang miyembro ng lgbtq masyado sensitive. Lahat na lang pinupuna
Delete7:24 gusto kasi nila, tayo mag adjust sa kanila. kapagod sila sa totoo lang.
Delete"Fit to work" yun lang yon. Period.
ReplyDeletepano pag nagka Tb ang may HIV , diba contagious na yun? like what happened sa hairdresser ni Ricky Reyes na may HIV
ReplyDeleteHuy walang HIV si Ricky. Yung employee niya ang meron tapos kinasuhan siya. Nagbayad siya 600,000 for discrimating the employee daw
DeleteNagbabasa ka ba 12:24?
DeleteAng mga netizen kasi pawoke. Lahat na lang pupunahin. Tigil tigilan nyo na Kakainternet at social media uy!!! Masama na sa mental health nyo yan kada salita triggered na kayo. Mag patingin na kayo, Hindi na healthy yan.
ReplyDeleteAno nabang nangyayari ngayon? Konting kibot discrimination agad.
ReplyDeleteIto lang nagpapatunay na may rules at qualification po sila. Hindi naman po ito lahat may right sumali, Privilege po.
ReplyDeleteLahat na lang iniissue. Physically draining ang beaucon, alaganaman sakitin ka mamya magkasakit ka pa during the course of the contest, sagutin ka pa nila.
ReplyDeleteO sige na, basta tao at humihinga pa, pwede nang sumali. Happy?
ReplyDeleteHindi naman sa discrimination but the pageant and role requires rigorous training. Means they need someone of best health. Also for indemnity. Pag napano ka bilang immuno compromised ka kasi pinilit natin isali.. sino mananagot
ReplyDeleteDami snowflakes talaga ngayon. Lahat nalang ikinaka offend.
ReplyDeletePuede bang understanding muna before complaining at reacting?
ReplyDeleteMarami pa talagang hindi edukado sa hiv/ aids awareness… nanonood ng ms. U na advocacy and hiv/aids awareness pero hindi pa rin alam. Lol! Well, pinoys nga naman.
ReplyDeleteLet me educate you.
Hiv: for as long as you take your medication and your viral load is below a certain level, you are as healthy as a person with no hiv. In fact kahit magtalik kayo na walang protection hindi ka makakakuha ng hiv basta managed ang condition with medication. Hiv if managed within medication, on average of 3 months ok ka na for as long as you take medication (paulit ulit!). The life expectancy is the same as a person with no hiv, for as long as you are taking you medication na once a day. Parang hypertension and category na niya. Sabi nga ng iba, mas madali pang mamanage ang hiv vs. diabetes. Stigma lang talaga sa mga tao ang barrier ngayon.
Aids: if you dont take your medication, it will lead to aids (parang stage 4 cancer). Dyan mahihirapan ka na sumali sa ms. U.
Source: first world country education. Chos!
um ano pinagsasabi mo walang lunas ang hiv
DeleteGrabe! Dami hindi educated. No wonder ganito pilipinas lol!
ReplyDeleteFunny kasi wala ako nakikita na babae na nagrereklamo regarding hiv discrimination. Prioritize your health bago rumampa. Dinadamay pa cancer survivors para sa cause nila at ijustify na may discrimination. Amanakayo mga accla.
ReplyDeleteEven if you are cabcer or hiv survivors, you need to live a stress-free life and still has health risks. Hindi lang beaucon ang avenue for beauty and cause.
This pageants have now become a joke! Dami social issues na pinipilit to the point of losing the essence of what the competition is all about. Wala na yung essence.
ReplyDeleteWoke culture should be canceled.Lahat na lang issue sa mga taong yan sobrang snowflakes.Sila yung mga tao na sobra palalakihin ang issue na di naman dapat tas pag na confront at risk na ang mental health nila.
ReplyDeleteHindi naiintindihan kase po kasama sa contract ang makipag compete sa ibang bansa. Paano sila mabibigyan nga medical na fit to travel aaaaatttt visa may mga countries kase na mahigpit..hinsi yan discrimination.standard yan sa lahat ng beaucon wag tayo pa ignorante
ReplyDeleteSabi ng lgbtq sila ay discriminated, but i sincerely believe people dont discriminate them because of their preference but because of these feeling entitled behavior. It is the attitude na nakakasuya na porket lgbtq kailangan pagbigyan akala ko ba equality. Respect the rights of others also
ReplyDeleteBinalikan ko ang article na eto kasi I'm currently watching AHS 11 NYC. Ang sad! Tungkol sa HIV/AIDS ang season na yun. Nagbago tuloy pananaw ko. Yung mga nag tweet, real advocates ang mga yan. Hindi sila pa-advocate. Kaya sobrang triggered sila. Intense ang reaction nila against sa discrimination to PLHIV. Grabe ang discrimination noon. Hanggang ngayon meron pa rin discrimination. Nakakaiyak.
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