I agree! Easier said and done. I never really understood how and why the victims will just shut down and not report to the authorities. But when it happened to me, I got scared to report to the authorities. And when my sister was sexually harassed (the guy masturbated beside her) in a public vehicle, I stood with her and reported it to the authorities. Sadly, they only laughed it out and even had the nerve to say “ he came happily” like wtf! Take note, one of those officers is from the womens desk. It’s sad and it’s so bad that people are still ignorant!
Always listen to our parents or guardian . Wag sasama sa mga lalaki or magpapatuloy ng lalaki mahirap na kahit kamag anak pa yan. Kaya girls becareful lalo na sa party.
Always listen to our parents or guardian . Wag sasama sa mga lalaki or magpapatuloy ng lalaki mahirap na kahit kamag anak pa yan. Kaya girls becareful lalo na sa party.
Sows, hindi naman sa pagsama ng lalake yan! Eh paano yung mga nahihipuan sa tren o jeep, may choice ba sila doon? O yung mga inabangan sa kanto?!
At saka, bakit laging yung babae ang sinasabihan at kailangan mag-ingat?! Why not open the discussion and teach the men/boys not to force themselves sa girls? That touching a woman/girl without her permission kahit sa buhok lang yun is bad?! Masyadong macho society ang Pinas. Mindset change kailangan dyan.
6.01 You have a point but you can only do so much. You cannot force them to do what you want. If they want to do something bad they can BUT there's a consequence to that. That's why there is a law in place for that. Your 'open discussion', 'change of mindset', 'teach the men/boys' proposal are good but it has no teeth; it's only a flip of a tongue, hence, it will not work.
That's why the 'laging yung babae ang sinasabihan at kailangan mag-ingat' is good and effective. But if you are tired of it because you are questioning it by saying 'At saka, bakit laging yung babae ang sinasabihan at kailangan mag-ingat' - well if you want to test the criminals, and the addicts it's up to you.
Yes it is hard to sue but that is not an excuse not to. Andami naman rape cases eh. Eh di kung ngsue siya, di na sana nangyari kay deniece if thats true din diba? Kuda lang kasi nang kuda. If you need to vent, go to your friends or get therapy. May nakita nga ako interview sa toni talks na she was gangraped and she was able to free herself from the pain and anger. Kat should badly get help as in asap!
Mahirap magdemanda ng rape that took place many years ago kung wala kang police report at medico legal to support your claim kaya Dapat pag nagahasa ka, pa-medico legal agad at report Sa pulis.
1:35 aware ka naman na mga walang kwentang vids nga nagiging viral di ba? Sometimes justice is served through socmed, awareness is brought to the forefront.
8:24 eh di gawin mo pag nangyari sa yo. Napakadali kasi eh no? You are invalidating other people’s trauma and experiences dahil lang easy for you to say. 🙄
Its not about invalidation 8:24. Just saying social media is not the proper venue for it. She needs to get proper help and the bashing she gets from socmed will not help her journey. The fact she is making patol to bashers mean she is still in deep sh*t. Professional help is what she needs, not Twitter unless her Psychiatrist will encourage her to be active to socmed and be open to bashing which is highly unlikely.
8:32 malay mo she is already seeking professional help. You can do both at the same time, see a psychiatrist and vent on socmed. Minsan yan lang talaga ang outlet mo for social injustice.
12:42, so what should she have done after the incident, inspite of shock, etc, not all victims realize what happen and are strong enough to ‘collect evidence’ as you say. What will she gain by her accusation?
5:27 Ano ba dapat? Sa court ba pwede ang walang proof? Ang gullible mo naman kung pag sinabi syo ang isang bagay tapos ganyan pa kabigat eh maniniwala ka lanv basta basta ng walang proof.
9:56 hi, believer ako ni Kat Alano. Pero to answer your question, sana after niya na-rape, nagpa medico legal siya. Medico legal nakakaalam if na-rape. I was raped when I was 16 (obviously underage ako, he was an adult) by someone close to me. Binase ko lang sa experience ko ang knowledge ko.
1:20 hello teh, kaya nga yung ibang rape victim hindi maka-come forward dahil by the time na they are brave enough to come forward, wala ng evidence. May trauma yan and shame kaya yung iba tinatago na lang yung experience nila because no one will believe them. Ang alam ko lang, walang sensible na tao na gagawin rape victim ang sarili nila kahit hindi totoo para lang sa clout or fame.
Kapag nagsalita, madaming hanash? So dapat konti lang yung sasabihin niya para konting hanash? 🙃🙄 Bagay ka sa communist country. Bawal humanash doon. Pwedeng-pwede ka doon.
anyare kay ate girl? masyado na siyang makuda. i understand yung pinagdaanan niya. pero minsan, kailangan din prumeno. ni hindi nga niya pinangalanan ang nangrape sa kanya, puro lang siya parinig.
Ikaw ang tumigil na sa pagkuda. Kanina ka pa. Dahil sa sentence structure mo na hindi capital letter ang simula ng first sentence, halata na sa iyo rin ang ibang comments sa taas. Minsan kailangan din prumeno sa pagiging tard ng rape suspect.
You'll never know until you experience it yourself. Oo may mali sa approach nya pero tao lang din yan. Kung sa bakit di sya nag.file ng case, sya na lang nakakaalam nun.
9:12, medico legal examination. Madami na din rapists na nahatulan, ang iba sa mga victims mas bata at mas mahirap pa kaysa kanya. But they were sure kung sino rapist nila and they have undergone medico legal examination kaya naimbestigahan, nakasuhan at napakulong ang mga rapists.
Teh obviously di mo pa nakita mga tao sa ibang bansa na papatayin talaga yung babae pag nagsumbong na narape siya kahit pa kapamilya nila. Kakaloka kayo sa worst worst in the Philippines ka dyan
I side with Kat here pero wag kayong masyadong nagpapaniwala na ang Pilipinas ang pinaka-worse sa kahit saan without doing your own research. Pansinin nyo 'yung mga political parties and supporters nila na dina-down lagi Pilipinas. May reason bakit ayaw nilang maging nationalistic tayo.
Bakit kasi di ka nagreklamo noon? Di sana na bigyan ka ng justice soon at di na cya nkabiktimang rape uli. Nag-ingay ka na lang when Denice Cornejo came out
Hindi madali mag open up lalo na may pamilya ka na mag aalala sayo. Nahihiya sila kahit wala silang kasalanan. Kahit ako kung mangyari yan ewan ko kung gusto ko ulit balikan ang trauma kasi sasabihin mo lahat sa korte.
Women usually are fearful to come out against their rapists because of bashers and trolls. Binasa mo ba post nya? Mahilig mag victim blame ang mga pinoy, tignan mo na comment mo o!
How can you be so sure na di siya nagreklamo? Watch mo may vid si Kat (9yrs ago) detailing what they did to her after the incident at kung paano prinotektahan ng network si V at paano agad binasura yung case na tnry nilang isubmit.
9:49, you said it yourself may protector “noon”. Obviously ngayon wala na kaya nga nakulong, so what’s stopping her from filing a case? If she attempted to file one before, it means she has the evidence to back it up, so again what is stopping her from bringing it out and filing a case? If it happened 9 years ago, she still has 11 more years to file a case. Isama na din niya those who attempted to silence her. She has nothing to lose dahil alam naman na ng lahat ng tao ang nangyari sa kanya. Why is she afraid to file a case? According to previous comments may mga nagvolunteer pa to represent her and yet she chose to speak about it in social media instead of bringing it to the proper forum. And before anyone labels me as a fan of that comedian, let me tell you in advance that I was and never will be a fan.
@4:24, rape is a very traumatic experience and after ng lahat ng nangyare sa kanya - to not be heard and no one was willing to listen to her, instead na sa kanya kumampi siya pa yung nabash, hindi na kagulat gulat na wala na siyang tiwala sa justice system sa pinas. This whole thing made her miserable, she suffered depression and contemplated on ending her life. So kung yung way niya lang ngayon is to post on HER socmed, then so be it. Hayaan niyo na at wag na ibash. Kung ayaw niyo ng pinopost niya eh di wag niyo pansinin.
The hell you care if she file a case or not. You don’t have the right to decide for her. Anong problem mo? You don’t even have the right to invalidate kung sinabi niya na rape siya. Edi kung ayaw mo maniwala edi WAG MO after all hnd ka naman JUDGE to tell whether speculations lang ang lahat or what not! She’s decent enough to let Karma do it’s work. Wala ka ng pakielam kung mag file man siya ng another case ngayon or hnd and that doesn’t mean hnd siya na rape.
I believe her but she is starting to be annoying. Ang tapang sa socmed pero wala namang ginawa over the years. Stay away from social media and get some therapy gurl.
12:13 agree! And I think this is why she’s experiencing victim blaming. She already took her first step of being brave and opening about her situation when she shared it in soc med. I guess people were anticipating that she would have done something about it. Since there’s none, people are assuming she’s all words - no action. However, writing about it in soc med might be one of her coping mechanism. Who are we to judge anyway. It’s her predicament, she will heal at her own pace.
12:13 what do you know bout what she's done, you insensitive troll. Do you think healing from trauma is that easy? you should be the one to stay away from social media
Sana nagkaroon sya ng lakas loob na mag demanda at lumaban. Hindi yong sa social media sya parinig ng parinig, tingin tuloy ng mga tao nakikisawsaw lang sya. Dapat sana nakamit din nya ang hustisya para sa kanya.
I really hope that those commenting against Kat are not women. If they are then I wish that the same thing happen to them. Sorry, but that's the only way they can think straight. If they're men, then they ARE MEN.
Eto tayo sa assigning blame based on genders eh 9:58. Bukod na sa nakakaloka na tingin mo the only way a person can learn empathy is for them to also suffer rape (mej nakakatakot din mga kagaya mo), women can also be rapists. If babae ka at wala lang empathy sa kapwa mo babae, then baka internalized misogyny 'yan.
1243 hindi madali mag akusa kung hindi totoo OR kung wala Kang makukuhang kapalit like bilhin ang katahimikan mo. At hindi lang siya ang nag accuse sa lalaking Yun ng rape.
I was being taken advantage of my boss in a company. It's really hard to speak up against powerful people. Until now, I haven't told anyone except here. I understand you Kat.
Huggss sayo!! I was once part of a committee in our company that was investigating a sexual harrassment case. Grabe yung trauma dun sa mga victims. Yung iba ayaw nilang magsalita dahil takot sila or ayaw na nila balikan yung incident at nahihiya sila malaman ng iba na victim sila ng sexual harassment. I wish people will be more understanding of Kat.
This is true. Ako naman I was harassed by our British Construction Manager in Dubai. I was too stunned to speak kasi it was a farewell party for our colleague. There was a picture taking and he grabbed my flat pwet napalingon ako and he was smirking. I didn’t tell anyone bec I know no one will believe and I dont want to spoil the mood of the party.
You need to stand up and do justice for yourself. Thats the start of healing process. If you will just rant there will be no peace for you because your side will not be heard, and people will question your story and your sanity. Stand up, be brave, face your aggressor, bring him to court. Do not mind the bashers for they do not know what youve been thru! Keep the faith
ang burden of truth po ay laging nasa nag aacuse, hindi po tatayo sa korte kung wala kang matibay na evidence. Hindi nya po siguro tuwirang ma name drop kc pde sya makasuhan ng libel
Kaya maraming victim ayaw mag salita. Ang daming victim blaming kesyo "kasuhan mo, malandi ka siguro, innocent ung tao (mabait ung rapist), bakit ka sa soc med ng rant, ung suot mo kz mahalay etc". Shame on you! Nakaka takot maging rape victim dito sa pinas.
I had sexual experience, not rape. But not to the point na may nangyari. It was like, continuous na paninilip, panghihipo… from my own cousin and brother. I was young then. And we were like a broken family, no parents by our side. Ang hirap mag speak up when you know na walang maniniwala sa yo. You only have yourself to cry on and lean on. It stopped when i got older thankfully. I forgave them and life moved on for all of us. But i also had the same experience naman with a former boss abroad. Yun talaga ang nakakagigil pero wala ka magawa because you’re in his territory. It still bugs me up to this day. I think masyado yata ako namanhid na, andami ko na din pinagdaanan…Im thankful i got through it all. But not every victim is the same and so we need to broaden our minds. Iba iba tayo ng pag cope. Yun lang.
I am not one of those who will victim blame you but please, please stop your social media rants. Instead, bring him to court. It’s the only way you can find peace yourself. He may be convicted for the crimes he did to others but will it heal you? They got their justice but how about you?
So ano dapat 12.12 tama ba yan lahat papatulan nya sa social media, bawat criticism magagalit sya you think healthy yan for someone who has trauma shes adding more trauma to herself
Nakakulong na nga, bakit di mo pa pangalanan. You can't use the excuse of "nasa power at mahirap magsalita" dahil it's obvious wala na sa power and he's paying for his sins. So bakit puro parinig pa rin. Clearly you are no longer in trauma because you are brave to speak about it now. Gather your evidence, name him and file a case. That way bashers will stop. Social media posts won't matter if you don't point to the perpetrator.
May legal repercussions kase kung papangalanan nya, lalo na wala syang ebidensya. I think dapat itigil nya na yung pagpost post nya lalo na mukha lang syang nakikisawsaw.
Not naman silent. But she's been posting about this matter for years now. Kahit naman sino maririndi kung paulit ulit yung hanash. I believe her and sya lang din naman nahihirapan kung araw araw nyang irerelive yung nangyari sa kanya.
Sana kasi Kat noon pa kinasuhan mo na. Ba't kase ngayon lang sya dami kuda. Bakit sya magsampa ng kaso now kung sino man yang rapist nya para makamit nya justice na hinahanap niya. Kase kada lutang ni Deniece sa socmed nakikikuda din sya about rape. Nung tahimik na kampo ni Deniece tahimik din sya. Kahit di nya pangalan obvious naman kung sino pinatatamaan niya. Kaya kung gusto mo hustisya file a case now.
Filipinos are so magnanimous in forgiving lechers, cheaters, corrupt and vicious men. Look at the elected and reelected men in power. Look at how too many accept cheating men with families on the side. Just as equally, these same people are just as quick to villify victims, women and anyone weak/weaker. Is it misogynistic values? A culture of oppression?
I believe her, but her constant posts about the rape incident are not helping her case. Nagmumukha tuloy syang nakikisawsaw. If she claims to have depression for 17 years na, she should go to therapy. I think she's part of the problem, di nya matanggap na kailangan nya ng professional help.
Instead of gaining sympathy, irita tuloy ang nakukuha nya. She should seek help and start her healing process. Sya lang din naman nahihirapan sa bandang huli.
Sus. Hindi victim shaming ung manghingi ng evidence. Legap procedure un. If someone accusses her of something, for sure ang una nyang sasabihin, asan ang ebidensya. Kung puro sya ganyan, its either di sya nagsasabi ng totoo o wala syang ebidensya. So kung magdemanda man sya, mapapagastos lang sya.
2:34 it’s victim shaming yung g na g pa kayo na kesyo wala syang ebidensya etc. kung concerned talaga kayo sa legal procedure, you can say it nicely, hindi yung puro bash at lecture.
Prove it in court. One is innocent UNTIL proven guilty. This is A FACT anf i'm not passing judgement. so whoever will say that I'm an enabler... know the law before you judge me.
i don't agree with victim-blaming nor criminals not paying for their crimes. but I also don't agree with bringing out issues in the court of public opinion. kahit ano pa gawin natin, if she refuses to bring the case to court - and that's her prerogative, the alleged rapist is also protected by law to be INNOCENT until proven otherwise.
sadly, both parties lose in this case. ang mga marites at keyboard warriors lang ang panalo.
If the culprit/s are capable of bribery and has connections, it's useless to file a case in court. The Justice System we have is Selective Justice. Only the rich and powerful are ALWAYS on the winning side. Been a victim of injustice and I can say it's JUST TIIS nalang. All we have to do is to vent it out to lessen the pain and burden. ✝️
FYI DON SA MGA NAGHIHINGI NA PROOF. Within 24 hours nakapagpamedico legal ka dapat at sumbong sa pulis. Para madampot agad BUT IF YOU FAIL TO DO IT WITHIN 24 HOURS AABUTIN NA PO NG TAON ANG TRIAL. paano po yung mgs natrauma. Nadiri sa sarili nla. Natakot within 24 hrs. Aabutin po ng years ang trial na non. Imagine for years mong ipprove n nirape ka. YEARS MO PAULIT ULIT N IKKWENTO PUMUNTA PO KAYO MISMO SA PULIS PRA ALAM NYO PROSESO KALA NYO NA MAHIRAP ANG BATAS NG PILIPINAS SA RAPE VICTIMS. isa pa hnd advance ang pilipnas sa rape kits. At pg may abogado na magaling yun rapist palalabasin p n gnusto mo at sumama ka. Yung personal na kakilala ko ngyare sa kanya to. Andon po ako kasama nya sa police station. Sa governors office. MASALIMUOT ANG HUSTISYA NG RAPE SA PILIPINAS
After a friend was falsely accused by somebody he sort of rejected ayoko na basta maniwala sa ganyan. Ang daming naniwala kay girl kasi convincing talaga. And they said the same thing, bakit sya mag iimbento? Wala satin may alam anong nangyari. Pwedeng may R na nangyari. Pwedeng hookup regret. Pwedeng two drunk people.
Exactly, Kat!
ReplyDeleteI agree! Easier said and done. I never really understood how and why the victims will just shut down and not report to the authorities. But when it happened to me, I got scared to report to the authorities. And when my sister was sexually harassed (the guy masturbated beside her) in a public vehicle, I stood with her and reported it to the authorities. Sadly, they only laughed it out and even had the nerve to say “ he came happily” like wtf! Take note, one of those officers is from the womens desk. It’s sad and it’s so bad that people are still ignorant!
DeleteAlways listen to our parents or guardian . Wag sasama sa mga lalaki or magpapatuloy ng lalaki mahirap na kahit kamag anak pa yan. Kaya girls becareful lalo na sa party.
DeleteAlways listen to our parents or guardian . Wag sasama sa mga lalaki or magpapatuloy ng lalaki mahirap na kahit kamag anak pa yan. Kaya girls becareful lalo na sa party.
DeleteSows, hindi naman sa pagsama ng lalake yan! Eh paano yung mga nahihipuan sa tren o jeep, may choice ba sila doon? O yung mga inabangan sa kanto?!
DeleteAt saka, bakit laging yung babae ang sinasabihan at kailangan mag-ingat?! Why not open the discussion and teach the men/boys not to force themselves sa girls? That touching a woman/girl without her permission kahit sa buhok lang yun is bad?! Masyadong macho society ang Pinas. Mindset change kailangan dyan.
6.01 You have a point but you can only do so much. You cannot force them to do what you want. If they want to do something bad they can BUT there's a consequence to that. That's why there is a law in place for that. Your 'open discussion', 'change of mindset', 'teach the men/boys' proposal are good but it has no teeth; it's only a flip of a tongue, hence, it will not work.
DeleteThat's why the 'laging yung babae ang sinasabihan at kailangan mag-ingat' is good and effective. But if you are tired of it because you are questioning it by saying 'At saka, bakit laging yung babae ang sinasabihan at kailangan mag-ingat' - well if you want to test the criminals, and the addicts it's up to you.
Puro kuda naman kasi sya sa sm. She needs to sue him and get justice.
ReplyDeleteDarling it’s hard to sue someone pag wala hard evidence. Easy for you to say that ah
DeleteSaan bundok k nktira at di mu alam na lumapit na sila dati ky De Lima...deadma lng..malakas pa abs noon.
DeleteKorek
DeleteDear si delima lang ba pwedeng lapitan? she can hire a lawyer and request one for free too but she's not doing it
Delete12:38 fake news mo naman. Lahat si De Lima may kasalanan ano
DeleteYes it is hard to sue but that is not an excuse not to. Andami naman rape cases eh. Eh di kung ngsue siya, di na sana nangyari kay deniece if thats true din diba? Kuda lang kasi nang kuda. If you need to vent, go to your friends or get therapy. May nakita nga ako interview sa toni talks na she was gangraped and she was able to free herself from the pain and anger. Kat should badly get help as in asap!
DeleteSabihin mo kaya yan pag nangyari sau yungnangyari sa kanya
Delete8:24 wow! So kasalanan niya na may iba pang biktima? May you find peace.
DeletePag sinabi ng babae na ni-rape siya, yun ang pinakamabigat na evidensya na na-rape siya sabi ng Supreme Court
DeleteI dont know what i will do but definitely, i will not use social media and try to get sympathy from online people. Whats the point!?!
DeleteMahirap magdemanda ng rape that took place many years ago kung wala kang police report at medico legal to support your claim kaya Dapat pag nagahasa ka, pa-medico legal agad at report Sa pulis.
Delete1:35 aware ka naman na mga walang kwentang vids nga nagiging viral di ba? Sometimes justice is served through socmed, awareness is brought to the forefront.
Delete8:24 eh di gawin mo pag nangyari sa yo. Napakadali kasi eh no? You are invalidating other people’s trauma and experiences dahil lang easy for you to say. 🙄
DeleteIts not about invalidation 8:24. Just saying social media is not the proper venue for it. She needs to get proper help and the bashing she gets from socmed will not help her journey. The fact she is making patol to bashers mean she is still in deep sh*t. Professional help is what she needs, not Twitter unless her Psychiatrist will encourage her to be active to socmed and be open to bashing which is highly unlikely.
Delete8:32 malay mo she is already seeking professional help. You can do both at the same time, see a psychiatrist and vent on socmed. Minsan yan lang talaga ang outlet mo for social injustice.
DeleteAno naman kasing mapapala nya at nung iba pa kung mag imbento sila ng kwento? Bilib na bilib kasi ang mga tards sa bait kuno ng idol nila
ReplyDeleteMahilig sya magaccuse pero wala naman syang proof.
Delete12:42 Testimony is a kind of evidence, and it is often the only evidence that a judge has when deciding a case.
Delete12:42 so pag may proof dun ka pa lang maniniwala? Sana hindi mangyari sa yo na ikaw na nga narape, ikaw pa ang hindi pinaniniwalaan.
DeleteAnu gusto mong proof? Video?
Delete12:42, so what should she have done after the incident, inspite of shock, etc, not all victims realize what happen and are strong enough to ‘collect evidence’ as you say. What will she gain by her accusation?
Delete12:42, just because wala syang proof, it didn’t happen? Utak mo nakain ng amoeba!
Delete12:42 anong proof gusto mo? kumuha sya ng picture while she's being raped? gusto mo nag record sya sa mobile nya habang hinahatak sya at ginagahasa?
Delete5:27 Ano ba dapat? Sa court ba pwede ang walang proof? Ang gullible mo naman kung pag sinabi syo ang isang bagay tapos ganyan pa kabigat eh maniniwala ka lanv basta basta ng walang proof.
Delete9:56 hi, believer ako ni Kat Alano. Pero to answer your question, sana after niya na-rape, nagpa medico legal siya. Medico legal nakakaalam if na-rape. I was raped when I was 16 (obviously underage ako, he was an adult) by someone close to me. Binase ko lang sa experience ko ang knowledge ko.
Delete1:20 hello teh, kaya nga yung ibang rape victim hindi maka-come forward dahil by the time na they are brave enough to come forward, wala ng evidence. May trauma yan and shame kaya yung iba tinatago na lang yung experience nila because no one will believe them. Ang alam ko lang, walang sensible na tao na gagawin rape victim ang sarili nila kahit hindi totoo para lang sa clout or fame.
DeleteAko naniwala ako sakasabihan ng mga matatanda paymay baho lalabas kahit ano tago mo wla forever
Deletegirl stop na. mabubulok na sa kulungan ang rapist mo. stop na ranting sa social media... nagmumukha ka nang ewan.
ReplyDeleteWow ha. Sino ka para patahimikin siya
DeleteWhy should she stop? Dahil sinabi mo? That’s her life. Sa ganyan paraan niya gusto ilabas saloobin niya. Let her be.
DeleteDi mo nabasa sabi ng basher?
DeleteWOW at ganun talaga kadali Sau Sabihin nyan sa mga rape victims?
DeleteYou have no right to say that to rape victims
Delete1132 wtf?? Ok ka lang? Sya pa talaga sinasabihan mo ng tama na?
Delete11:32 Wag sana mangyari sayo yung nangyari sknya.
DeleteVictims should never be silenced. There is no expiry date on what happened to them
DeleteWho you?! You have no right to tell her to shut up
DeleteOk na sana dati, nasa yo sympathy ko Kat pero kairita ka na. Tigil na kuda sa social media.
Delete12:35 bakit ka maiirita sa kanya? Eh di keep scrolling and ignore her. Yung binabash mo pa at naiirita ka pa sa kanya, kaloka!
Deletedaming hanash pwede naman magdemanda
ReplyDeleteKapag nagsalita, madaming hanash? So dapat konti lang yung sasabihin niya para konting hanash? 🙃🙄 Bagay ka sa communist country. Bawal humanash doon. Pwedeng-pwede ka doon.
DeletePaulit ulit na kasi. Di ka nagdemanda nun tas now di ka tumigil. Nkakulong na nga.
Delete12:37 paulit ulit ka din. Magsama kayo ng rapist ni kat.
Deleteanyare kay ate girl? masyado na siyang makuda. i understand yung pinagdaanan niya. pero minsan, kailangan din prumeno. ni hindi nga niya pinangalanan ang nangrape sa kanya, puro lang siya parinig.
ReplyDeleteIkaw ang tumigil na sa pagkuda. Kanina ka pa. Dahil sa sentence structure mo na hindi capital letter ang simula ng first sentence, halata na sa iyo rin ang ibang comments sa taas. Minsan kailangan din prumeno sa pagiging tard ng rape suspect.
Delete1134, no, you don’t understand at all.
DeleteWhy should she? That's her revenge to her rapist. Not being named and yet people know it's him. Haha
Delete11:34 kung powerful or influential yung rapist, mahirap mag name names, kayang kaya nila baliktarin ang nangyari
DeleteObviously, you don’t understand. You don’t understand her and you don’t understand the legal process!
DeleteYou'll never know until you experience it yourself. Oo may mali sa approach nya pero tao lang din yan. Kung sa bakit di sya nag.file ng case, sya na lang nakakaalam nun.
DeleteHalatang halata ang nga trolls dahil iisa ang tirada. Sisihin pa daw ba ang biktima?
DeleteIt’s really hard to side with merely talk lang ang evidence. Sorry Kat
ReplyDeleteHow do u prove rape? Kaloka ka sorry sorry ka pa. Hope it doesnt happen to u
Deleteyour idol should be the one sorry for his past actions
Delete9:12, medico legal examination. Madami na din rapists na nahatulan, ang iba sa mga victims mas bata at mas mahirap pa kaysa kanya. But they were sure kung sino rapist nila and they have undergone medico legal examination kaya naimbestigahan, nakasuhan at napakulong ang mga rapists.
DeleteIt's harder to side with someone na hindi lang isa o dalawa ang nagsasabing victim silang taong yan at parehong kaso
DeleteI believe in u kat
ReplyDeleteFilipinos should change their mindset re rape. Baluktot magisip mga pinoy. Kakahiya. Filipinos are the only ones who protect rapists
ReplyDeletes***uta ka may CCTV na nga, ano yon gawa gawa lang.
DeleteLol. Why don't you check out Japan's view of rape and you'll be surprise
DeleteTrue. Bakit sila nagagalit Kay Kat? Di ba dapat Kung wala ka man lng sa sitwasyon, at hindi ikaw ang victim, ikaw dapat ang tumahimik a
DeleteCheck South Korea as well. Dami ng na.victim blame dun
DeleteTeh obviously di mo pa nakita mga tao sa ibang bansa na papatayin talaga yung babae pag nagsumbong na narape siya kahit pa kapamilya nila. Kakaloka kayo sa worst worst in the Philippines ka dyan
DeleteNge? Punta ka sa India ng malaman mo yang Pinoy lang argument mo.
DeleteI side with Kat here pero wag kayong masyadong nagpapaniwala na ang Pilipinas ang pinaka-worse sa kahit saan without doing your own research. Pansinin nyo 'yung mga political parties and supporters nila na dina-down lagi Pilipinas. May reason bakit ayaw nilang maging nationalistic tayo.
DeleteBakit kasi di ka nagreklamo noon? Di sana na bigyan ka ng justice soon at di na cya nkabiktimang rape uli. Nag-ingay ka na lang when Denice Cornejo came out
ReplyDeleteHindi madali mag open up lalo na may pamilya ka na mag aalala sayo. Nahihiya sila kahit wala silang kasalanan. Kahit ako kung mangyari yan ewan ko kung gusto ko ulit balikan ang trauma kasi sasabihin mo lahat sa korte.
DeleteWomen usually are fearful to come out against their rapists because of bashers and trolls. Binasa mo ba post nya? Mahilig mag victim blame ang mga pinoy, tignan mo na comment mo o!
DeleteAre you actually serious and pretend na hindi mo alam why she didn’t speak up?!? Grabe ang culture talaga sa Pilipinas.
DeleteBakit si maggie de la riva nag speak di ba nakamit nya ang justisya?!
DeleteHow can you be so sure na di siya nagreklamo? Watch mo may vid si Kat (9yrs ago) detailing what they did to her after the incident at kung paano prinotektahan ng network si V at paano agad binasura yung case na tnry nilang isubmit.
DeleteGirl, read and learn. She complained but was told to shush up. May protector ang lalaki na un noon
Delete9:49, you said it yourself may protector “noon”. Obviously ngayon wala na kaya nga nakulong, so what’s stopping her from filing a case? If she attempted to file one before, it means she has the evidence to back it up, so again what is stopping her from bringing it out and filing a case? If it happened 9 years ago, she still has 11 more years to file a case. Isama na din niya those who attempted to silence her.
DeleteShe has nothing to lose dahil alam naman na ng lahat ng tao ang nangyari sa kanya. Why is she afraid to file a case?
According to previous comments may mga nagvolunteer pa to represent her and yet she chose to speak about it in social media instead of bringing it to the proper forum.
And before anyone labels me as a fan of that comedian, let me tell you in advance that I was and never will be a fan.
@4:24, rape is a very traumatic experience and after ng lahat ng nangyare sa kanya - to not be heard and no one was willing to listen to her, instead na sa kanya kumampi siya pa yung nabash, hindi na kagulat gulat na wala na siyang tiwala sa justice system sa pinas. This whole thing made her miserable, she suffered depression and contemplated on ending her life. So kung yung way niya lang ngayon is to post on HER socmed, then so be it. Hayaan niyo na at wag na ibash. Kung ayaw niyo ng pinopost niya eh di wag niyo pansinin.
DeleteThe hell you care if she file a case or not. You don’t have the right to decide for her. Anong problem mo? You don’t even have the right to invalidate kung sinabi niya na rape siya. Edi kung ayaw mo maniwala edi WAG MO after all hnd ka naman JUDGE to tell whether speculations lang ang lahat or what not! She’s decent enough to let Karma do it’s work. Wala ka ng pakielam kung mag file man siya ng another case ngayon or hnd and that doesn’t mean hnd siya na rape.
DeleteI believe her!
ReplyDeleteSa Pinas lang ata ganito. Mas naniniwala sa image sa TV.
Madalas kung sino pa yung mukhang mabait, sila pa yung may dark side
I believe her but she is starting to be annoying. Ang tapang sa socmed pero wala namang ginawa over the years. Stay away from social media and get some therapy gurl.
ReplyDeletewho are you to silence her? nakikibasa ka na nga lang sa tweets ng iba reklamador ka pa. super lungkot siguro ng life mo no
DeleteAgree 12:13
Delete12:13 agree! And I think this is why she’s experiencing victim blaming. She already took her first step of being brave and opening about her situation when she shared it in soc med. I guess people were anticipating that she would have done something about it. Since there’s none, people are assuming she’s all words - no action. However, writing about it in soc med might be one of her coping mechanism. Who are we to judge anyway. It’s her predicament, she will heal at her own pace.
Delete12:13 what do you know bout what she's done, you insensitive troll. Do you think healing from trauma is that easy? you should be the one to stay away from social media
DeleteSana nagkaroon sya ng lakas loob na mag demanda at lumaban. Hindi yong sa social media sya parinig ng parinig, tingin tuloy ng mga tao nakikisawsaw lang sya. Dapat sana nakamit din nya ang hustisya para sa kanya.
ReplyDeleteCommenters here clearly doesnt understand trauma
ReplyDeleteI really hope that those commenting against Kat are not women. If they are then I wish that the same thing happen to them. Sorry, but that's the only way they can think straight. If they're men, then they ARE MEN.
DeleteEto tayo sa assigning blame based on genders eh 9:58. Bukod na sa nakakaloka na tingin mo the only way a person can learn empathy is for them to also suffer rape (mej nakakatakot din mga kagaya mo), women can also be rapists. If babae ka at wala lang empathy sa kapwa mo babae, then baka internalized misogyny 'yan.
DeleteBakit do you understand din ba yung trauma ng taong pinagbibintangan?
DeleteExactly.
ReplyDeleteMadali lang kasi mag accuse pero pano kung innocent ang inaaccuse. Dapat nalang maniwala agad kasi “kawawa at na rape”.
ReplyDeleteKaya tahimik at hindi na lang nagrereklamo karamihan ng rape victims dahil sa mga tulad niyo na ayaw silang paniwalaan.
Delete1243 hindi madali mag akusa kung hindi totoo OR kung wala Kang makukuhang kapalit like bilhin ang katahimikan mo. At hindi lang siya ang nag accuse sa lalaking Yun ng rape.
DeleteHa? Pero hndi lang isa o dalawa ang reklamo, hndi ba dpat tgnan mo rin yun angulo na yon?
DeleteYou are evil
DeleteDo you still believe he is innocent? He's not
DeleteI was being taken advantage of my boss in a company. It's really hard to speak up against powerful people. Until now, I haven't told anyone except here. I understand you Kat.
ReplyDeleteHugs, sissy :(
DeleteHuggss sayo!! I was once part of a committee in our company that was investigating a sexual harrassment case. Grabe yung trauma dun sa mga victims. Yung iba ayaw nilang magsalita dahil takot sila or ayaw na nila balikan yung incident at nahihiya sila malaman ng iba na victim sila ng sexual harassment. I wish people will be more understanding of Kat.
DeleteHug with consent.
DeleteSame. I understand Kat.
DeleteAnd its even sadder that there are people here who think it's just so easy to speak and sue. They're either mysogynistic pigs or heartless women.
DeleteThis is true. Ako naman I was harassed by our British Construction Manager in Dubai. I was too stunned to speak kasi it was a farewell party for our colleague. There was a picture taking and he grabbed my flat pwet napalingon ako and he was smirking. I didn’t tell anyone bec I know no one will believe and I dont want to spoil the mood of the party.
DeleteDati napapanood ko siya sa Wowowee at sobrang ganda pa niya. Nakakalungkot na itong issue na ito na lang ang nakakakabit sa kanya.
ReplyDeleteYou need to stand up and do justice for yourself. Thats the start of healing process. If you will just rant there will be no peace for you because your side will not be heard, and people will question your story and your sanity. Stand up, be brave, face your aggressor, bring him to court. Do not mind the bashers for they do not know what youve been thru! Keep the faith
ReplyDeleteI understand Kat. It's not that easy guys. She has nothing to gain from speaking up. Stop silencing her because it makes you uncomfortable.
ReplyDeleteKat! Set up a Go Fund Me fund. We will help you. A lot of us want to help you if funding is the issue.
ReplyDeleteYung mga enablers, sana walang mangyaring ganyan sa inyo. Kababae niyong tao
ReplyDeleteHow dare you people tell a rape victim to move on and not talk about it. You have no idea how traumatising it can be.
ReplyDeleteang burden of truth po ay laging nasa nag aacuse, hindi po tatayo sa korte kung wala kang matibay na evidence. Hindi nya po siguro tuwirang ma name drop kc pde sya makasuhan ng libel
ReplyDeleteKaya maraming victim ayaw mag salita. Ang daming victim blaming kesyo "kasuhan mo, malandi ka siguro, innocent ung tao (mabait ung rapist), bakit ka sa soc med ng rant, ung suot mo kz mahalay etc". Shame on you! Nakaka takot maging rape victim dito sa pinas.
ReplyDeletevictim blaming na ba kung hinihikayat syang kasuhan na lang kesa sa socmed sya ma-grant?
Deletei wish she gets the closure she needs. PAANO?? - that is up to her.
I am sure madaming susuporta sa kanya whatever she chooses to do. but I can't get behind litigating cases on the court of public opinion.
kakadiri yung mga taong pinapatahimik sya just because nasa kulungan na rapist nya.
ReplyDeleteI had sexual experience, not rape. But not to the point na may nangyari. It was like, continuous na paninilip, panghihipo… from my own cousin and brother. I was young then. And we were like a broken family, no parents by our side. Ang hirap mag speak up when you know na walang maniniwala sa yo. You only have yourself to cry on and lean on. It stopped when i got older thankfully. I forgave them and life moved on for all of us. But i also had the same experience naman with a former boss abroad. Yun talaga ang nakakagigil pero wala ka magawa because you’re in his territory. It still bugs me up to this day. I think masyado yata ako namanhid na, andami ko na din pinagdaanan…Im thankful i got through it all. But not every victim is the same and so we need to broaden our minds. Iba iba tayo ng pag cope. Yun lang.
ReplyDeleteDear Kat,
ReplyDeleteI am not one of those who will victim blame you but please, please stop your social media rants. Instead, bring him to court. It’s the only way you can find peace yourself. He may be convicted for the crimes he did to others but will it heal you? They got their justice but how about you?
Who are you to say what action will bring her peace?
DeleteSo ano dapat 12.12 tama ba yan lahat papatulan nya sa social media, bawat criticism magagalit sya you think healthy yan for someone who has trauma shes adding more trauma to herself
DeleteNakakulong na nga, bakit di mo pa pangalanan. You can't use the excuse of "nasa power at mahirap magsalita" dahil it's obvious wala na sa power and he's paying for his sins. So bakit puro parinig pa rin. Clearly you are no longer in trauma because you are brave to speak about it now. Gather your evidence, name him and file a case. That way bashers will stop. Social media posts won't matter if you don't point to the perpetrator.
ReplyDeleteMay legal repercussions kase kung papangalanan nya, lalo na wala syang ebidensya. I think dapat itigil nya na yung pagpost post nya lalo na mukha lang syang nakikisawsaw.
DeleteWow. Psychologist ka teh? Who are you to judge if someone is no longer traumatized? Clearly you are not. Trauma does not go away the way a flu does!
DeleteWho are you to say na she is no longer in trauma? Hindi ka ba kinikilabutan sa sinasabi mo?
DeleteHow deluded of you to think that a person is free from trauma just cause she can talk about it now.
DeleteI hope those people who are so good at victim blaming get to experience the same thing. Shame on you all for glorifying rapists!
ReplyDeleteWOW! It's UNBELIEVABLE how alot of you want the rape victim to be SILENT! What's the matter? You don't like hearing the truth? You're all disgusting.
ReplyDeleteNot naman silent. But she's been posting about this matter for years now. Kahit naman sino maririndi kung paulit ulit yung hanash. I believe her and sya lang din naman nahihirapan kung araw araw nyang irerelive yung nangyari sa kanya.
Delete11:07 hindi ka maririndi kung talagang naniniwala ka sa kanya
DeleteSana kasi Kat noon pa kinasuhan mo na. Ba't kase ngayon lang sya dami kuda. Bakit sya magsampa ng kaso now kung sino man yang rapist nya para makamit nya justice na hinahanap niya. Kase kada lutang ni Deniece sa socmed nakikikuda din sya about rape. Nung tahimik na kampo ni Deniece tahimik din sya. Kahit di nya pangalan obvious naman kung sino pinatatamaan niya. Kaya kung gusto mo hustisya file a case now.
ReplyDelete8:51 eh sa ngayon lang sya nagkaroon ng courage. Dami mo ring kuda!
DeleteI hope she heals
ReplyDeleteThese insensitive comments here are disgusting.
ReplyDeleteFilipinos are so magnanimous in forgiving lechers, cheaters, corrupt and vicious men. Look at the elected and reelected men in power. Look at how too many accept cheating men with families on the side. Just as equally, these same people are just as quick to villify victims, women and anyone weak/weaker. Is it misogynistic values? A culture of oppression?
ReplyDeleteSpeak up in court Kat. Be your own voice at the proper forum to put this to rest. He deserves jail and peace for you
ReplyDeleteI believe you
I believe her, but her constant posts about the rape incident are not helping her case. Nagmumukha tuloy syang nakikisawsaw. If she claims to have depression for 17 years na, she should go to therapy. I think she's part of the problem, di nya matanggap na kailangan nya ng professional help.
ReplyDeleteInstead of gaining sympathy, irita tuloy ang nakukuha nya. She should seek help and start her healing process. Sya lang din naman nahihirapan sa bandang huli.
ReplyDeleteCan we stop with "kuda" and "hanash?" These terms are minimizing people's voices. Making what they say unimportant and making them feel unimportant.
ReplyDeleteSus. Hindi victim shaming ung manghingi ng evidence. Legap procedure un. If someone accusses her of something, for sure ang una nyang sasabihin, asan ang ebidensya. Kung puro sya ganyan, its either di sya nagsasabi ng totoo o wala syang ebidensya. So kung magdemanda man sya, mapapagastos lang sya.
ReplyDelete2:34 it’s victim shaming yung g na g pa kayo na kesyo wala syang ebidensya etc. kung concerned talaga kayo sa legal procedure, you can say it nicely, hindi yung puro bash at lecture.
DeleteMadali ba makakuha ng ebidensya sa ganyan? She has nothing to gain but more to lose by speaking up. So let her be because thats her way to cope.
DeleteWhatever the outcome is, I hope it's the truth and justice is served.
ReplyDeleteProve it in court. One is innocent UNTIL proven guilty. This is A FACT anf i'm not passing judgement. so whoever will say that I'm an enabler... know the law before you judge me.
ReplyDeletei don't agree with victim-blaming nor criminals not paying for their crimes. but I also don't agree with bringing out issues in the court of public opinion. kahit ano pa gawin natin, if she refuses to bring the case to court - and that's her prerogative, the alleged rapist is also protected by law to be INNOCENT until proven otherwise.
ReplyDeletesadly, both parties lose in this case. ang mga marites at keyboard warriors lang ang panalo.
Finally a fair, sensible comment.
Delete👏
DeleteTrue. In addition, kahit pa true ung allegations ni Kat, it doesn't prove na true na rin ung allegations nung ibang girls.
DeleteIf the culprit/s are capable of bribery and has connections, it's useless to file a case in court. The Justice System we have is Selective Justice. Only the rich and powerful are ALWAYS on the winning side. Been a victim of injustice and I can say it's JUST TIIS nalang. All we have to do is to vent it out to lessen the pain and burden. ✝️
ReplyDeleteFYI DON SA MGA NAGHIHINGI NA PROOF. Within 24 hours nakapagpamedico legal ka dapat at sumbong sa pulis. Para madampot agad BUT IF YOU FAIL TO DO IT WITHIN 24 HOURS AABUTIN NA PO NG TAON ANG TRIAL. paano po yung mgs natrauma. Nadiri sa sarili nla. Natakot within 24 hrs. Aabutin po ng years ang trial na non. Imagine for years mong ipprove n nirape ka. YEARS MO PAULIT ULIT N IKKWENTO PUMUNTA PO KAYO MISMO SA PULIS PRA ALAM NYO PROSESO KALA NYO NA MAHIRAP ANG BATAS NG PILIPINAS SA RAPE VICTIMS. isa pa hnd advance ang pilipnas sa rape kits. At pg may abogado na magaling yun rapist palalabasin p n gnusto mo at sumama ka. Yung personal na kakilala ko ngyare sa kanya to. Andon po ako kasama nya sa police station. Sa governors office. MASALIMUOT ANG HUSTISYA NG RAPE SA PILIPINAS
ReplyDeletequestion: did she ever made a formal complaint ba about her rapist before ? or No ? some say here that she talked to De lima .. true ba or no ?
ReplyDeleteAfter a friend was falsely accused by somebody he sort of rejected ayoko na basta maniwala sa ganyan. Ang daming naniwala kay girl kasi convincing talaga. And they said the same thing, bakit sya mag iimbento? Wala satin may alam anong nangyari. Pwedeng may R na nangyari. Pwedeng hookup regret. Pwedeng two drunk people.
ReplyDelete10:31 there are more real accusations than false accusations
Deletekung hindi magbabago ang mindset ng pinoys, naawa sa mga kriminal, binoboto ang mga kriminal, ganito padin talaga ang kawawang pilipinas.
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