yes a lot of people agree. I agree. I think by now everyone knows jaclyn is somewht toxic. so there's no point in posting this except to hurt her mom even more. a simple phone call after the jaclyn's post would've been ok. dami ng tiniis ni jaclyn before sa mga kabulastugan ni andy, ano b nmn tunh she didnt greet her on her bday.
I know. A simple call would make it okay. It's her mom no matter what. Maybe this is just a simple miscommunication. I hope things get better between the two of them. Life is short. You'll never know until it's too late.
True yan 11:41. Life is short! I also have a narcissistic mother and I tried everything from pleasing her to fighting with her and standing up for myself to cutting communications completely. Pero hndi ako naging at peace. Now i talk to her again and wala na kong expectations, I just try to show my love, keber na sa reaction nya. I have accepted that she is not perfect(and that no one is).what hurt me before was my expectations na mahalin ng parent without conditions.hndi naman masama magexpect, pero may mga bagay na wala na tayong magagawa and we can either choose to be bitter about it, or be grateful sa kung anong meron. Nashare ko lang. I hope mahing okay sila Andi amd Jaclyn.
12:25 Same here. Minsan kasi learned behavior based sa culture natin eh. Ako rin naman di perfect, so why expect too much from my parents? Talking helps though
i love your attitude 12:25. i wish the best for you and your mom. i lived with a narcissistic dad who i miss so much now that he’s gone. it’s all about tough love for him but he was never physical. looking back i now realize he was a good provider and wanted us to be the best persons we can be. i hope somehow he was able to feel we loved him even tho we’re not the type of family who expresses love thru words.
12:25, that's precisely what I'm trying to do nowadays - basically show my love, not expect the same and not care too much about her words, actions and reactions. It's not always easy so I'm really happy to see your comment. Practice makes perfect, right?
Si Jaclyn kasi, shinare pa na hindi siya binati ng anak niya kahit pwede namang pag-usapan privately. Siya ang nagpasimula na isapubliko yung problema nila kaya ayun, lumala pa. Pati yung mga ganyang bagay, naipost na.
Agree 12:25. Lalo na pag tumatanda, matampuhin na. Pero magulang pa din natin sila. When my dad passed away, andami ko regrets na sana i should have spent more time with him, na sana naiparamdam kong mahal ko cia. Kaya ngayon, ang promise ko sa tatay ko, ung love na dapat naibigay ko sa kanya, ibubuhos ko sa mother ko. She is the only parent i have. Para walang regrets in the end.
Yes! I remember c mader pa yung matapang away nang away dun sa family ni albie. Tsaka pinagtanggol din xa dati kasi mababa daw tingin ng mga ejercito sa kanya
True!! Kapal ng mukha ni Andi kala mo napaka bait na anak. Walang perpektong anak pero wala ding perpektong magulang. Babatiin lang sa birthday di pa magawa, imbes pinaparinggan pa.
Nanay ka na din, Andi. Sana di mo danasin yang ginagawa mo pagdating ng panahon at malalaki na din anak mo.
Oo nga ! Jacklyn went all out talagang interview kahit saan ang tapang tapang nya Tapos yun pala na wow mali sya kay andi! Pinahiya ni andi nanay nya vut jacklyn still accepted her daughter tapos itong si andi di man lang ma lunok ang pride nya
Because the blame will still be on Jaclyn. Yes pinagtanggol pero according to the definition of the narcissistic parent, it will all boil down to people thinking on how Jaclyn raised Andy and that Andy made a "mistake" due to how she was raised by Jaclyn. Kaya tanggol si Jaclyn kasi sa kanya mag reflect yun kung pano nya pinalaki si Andy. Paki alam nya kung sino talag tatay. It's all about her being Andy's Mom!
My father and I used to have a gap before because of politics. But i was the one who reached out to him first. Sa panahon ngayon, napakaunpredictable ng buhay. Di mo alam malakas ka ngayon tapos bukas wala kana. Mas masarap mabuhay ng wala kang kasamaan ng loob, lalo na magulang mo. Kung di naman kasalanang mortal, magpatawad.
12:06, pareho silang narcissistic. Si Andi din naman, instead of accepting her mistakes, tumahimik lang din siya and she never publicly acknowledged na nagkamali siya. Marami din diyan mga batang galing sa dysfunctional family at may toxic parenst but they turned out fine. Andi attributing all her faults to being raised by a “narcissistic parent” is a perfect example of being a narcissist.
11:37 I do, but I will never publicly shame her. Minsan maging compassionate din tayo sa mga taong may kinaklahang toxic behaviors and mentality while still protecting ourselves.
@1:26 Agree! 100%. My mom is the same. But I realized she's getting old and needs more attention than ever. She is not perfect, but at least hinde ako lumaki sa daan. I've learned to brush off my mom's imperfections because I know I will grow old too and will be hard to love as well. I would'nt want my children to treat me like that. Ano ba naman yung kausapin nya ng maayos in private.
12:11 birthday greetings lang hindi pa maibigay ni Andie?! Simple text could have prevented this to start with. Kapag nasa Manila si Andie all throughout her pregnancy and deliveries diba nasa bahay at kalinga siya ni Jacklyn.
I was raised by a covertly narcissistic mother. Pag aawayin mga anak nya. May paborito golden child nya. Pwedeng ikaw ang golden child sa ngayon pero kapag wala nang mapakinabangan sayo, ikaw naman ang target. Very controlling and manipulative. Pa-victim din. Ganyan pareho sa video. And now that it’s out because you chose to expose the narcissist, you have to get ready. Babalikan ka, sisirain ka kahit sarili ka pang anak. Sana maintindihan ng mga tao na hindi lahat ng magulang marunong magmahal, at hindi porket magulang ay dapat nang pagbigyan lagi. Hindi nagiging tama ang mali dahil lang magulang ka. Sana maunawaan ng mga tao na mahirap maging anak ng mga taong ganyan.
Kung maraming nakakarelate then that says something about Filipino culture and not just our mothers. So it's about understanding her or distancing yourself away from her. Hindi ung puro talak at shade sa social media.
Hugs andi. Di ko alam ito hanggang sa pinoint out ng asawa kong psychologist ang traits ng nanay kong nagpapakita ng pagiging narcissist. Ang hirap mag-reason sa kanila esp that they use our culture and religion as shield
Kaya ang galing ni ruffa kase never nya tinalikuran and binastos nanay nya. Unlike eto na pumatol pa samantalang she got her back nung mga panahon na nagkakalat siya
Dyan din ako bilib sa Gutz siblings. Kahit gano ka toxic nanay nila they never speak ill of her in public. For sure may mga sama din ng loob sila sa nanay nila pero di nila yun kinalat. Di na dinagdagan ang samaan ng loob.
2:04 actually ruffa shared how difficult Annabelle is, lalo n noon. Ayaw bati din sila which public see it. Pero they always tried to keep their feud privately.
She shouldn't have posted this. Her mom has helped her financially when she decided to quit showbiz, even more, she fought for her when she got pregnant and didn't know who her daughter's dad was.
I can totally relate on Andi on this. It's hard to heal pag nanggaling ka sa dysfunctional family. Kahit pa the love is there between a parent and a child, mapapasa mo talaga sa anak mo lahat ng baggages if left unsolved.
To 1108pm anonymous. Well, her mother is toxic based on what I've read here. However you cannot correct a mistake by making another mistake. Hindi ko alam pinagdaanan mo kaya hindi ako mag komento dyan. Punto, ano rason ni andi at nag post sya sa socmed. Para ipahayiha nanay nya. Si jackyln hindi nya pinahiya anak nya sa mga kabulastugan nya nuon. Isa pa, Yung buhay probinsya kuno ni andi, scapegoat nya lang yon. Kung ano Mam galit nya sa nanay nya, hindi nya na dapat ipakita pa sa mundo.
Hello girl si madam jaclyn lang naman ang solong nag palaki sayo at laging nag dedefend sayo every time may mga issue ka. Sana grineet mo na lang ang nanay mo ng belated happy birthday instead of shading her.
dont you have any friends andi?? although i believe her mom is toxic. you dont have to put it out there for the world to see. it's for you to deal with. she didnt say anything bad about you. the way she worded it parang nagtatampo lng. yes it gabe a bad impression about you but that's how social media works. a simple phone call cguro can at least do the work. it was her bday. i know it's hard being her daughter i totally get it but you could've kept quiet na lng. she was fighting everyone with her guts, her life, as in everyone who were bashing you, or questioning the father of your child, and every other issue you had before. you know she loves you. the public already knows she's narcissistic and kinda toxic, you dont have to show her that you're telling the world. my mom and I have issues, but I always complain and cry to my friends. my closest friends. I have never and will never post something like that about my mom for all the world to see. that's what my bffs are for. so I can tell them what I feel
11:09 baka nga wala siyang friends. People who post their dirty laundry and issues in socmed normally dont have true friends. I have lots of that on my feed. Nakakaawa din mga taong ganun.
Ako rin. I have a narcissist and toxic Mom who haven't talked to me in years just because of a perceived slight. Sobrang taas din ang pride na even if I reached out a number of times, nagmatigas siya. It sent me into nervous breakdown, therapies. Payo ng psychiatrist, live your life, be the mother to your kids that you wished you have and if ever nagkabati kami ng Mom ko one day, just humor her everytime she veers to her toxic ways. In other words, dedma at keber na lang. In the meantime, pinasa Diyos ko na lang din. And kahit anong pilit ng mga Marites kong mga kamag anak to spill the geans abt our rift, I remained quiet. Only hubby, siblings at very close friends ko lang nakakaalam. Kahit ano pang pamamahiyang gawin ng Mom ko sa akin, I refused to retaliate, mindful na may mga anak din akong nanonood. Nilagay ko na lang lahat ang effort ko to having an open, honest and loving relationship sa hubby at kids ko dahil ayokong maulit ito sa next generation.
I can understand what you are going thru. I, too, grew up with a narcissistic mom. In my case, with an enabler of a dad. So Wala akong kakampi. Hanggang ngayon, ganun pa rin sila. Hindi pwede nalang na we just let it go kasi what happens also to us? We have our own mental health to take care of Bec Meron rin tayong Mga sariling pamilya na kailangan alagaan at mahalin ng Tama. hindi sila pwede maging punching bag natin Pagna tri-trigger tayo. Hindi fair sa Mga asawa at anak natin.
Marami dito, nag co-comment.. madali nilang sinasabi na “nanay mo yan, mahalin mo no matter what”. Automatic ba na masama at ang May kasalanan ang anak? Meron rin naman parent na hindi maganda ang Turing sa anak dba?
Hindi naman na hindi natin minamahal (in our own way and capacity) our parent/s, but Sana maintindihan ng marami dito na nag ju-judge sa atin- Na marami sa atin, hindi tayo swinerte na lumaki sa isang loving and stable home kagaya ng Iba dito.
Magulo ang ang dysfunctional home. Na kung ang parent ang Dapat nagtuturo sa atin ng tama, ay nagtuturo ng mali.
Cut ties ka nalang mars o dedma. Kabastusan yan nag shade ka pa. Tama yung comment sa taas. Pinagtanggol, nilaban ka nyan nung di mo knows sino ba talaga tatay ng anak mo
Basta i remember those interviews of jacklyn defending andi versus albi As in sobrang tapang at halos umiyak na si jacklyn because of andi sa ginawa ni albie yun pala MALI ang pinaglalaban nya.sobrang nakakahiya yun Andi mag isip isip ka! Mas grabe ang ginawa mo sa nanay mo
Agree! Wala na siyang mukhang maihaharap kaya ngayon overhaul daw ng image. Pero kahit anong gawin niya, lumalabas at lumalabas ang totoong ugali niya.
Patay ka diyan Andi. Now it’s miss Jaclyn’s turn mag post naman yun ng video titled, “raising a daughter who is a narcissist”. Lol. Nung pinaikot mo buong pinas at pamilya mo kung sino tatay ni Ellie. Nanay mo nagtanggol sayo para di masira career mo. Sinira pa ninyo career ni Albie. So who’s the narcissist?? Pwede both din right? Apple doesn’t fall from the tree after all.
Your mom maybe narcissist but you're a brat Andi. Just because your mom was hoping you'd greet her galit ka na agad?!
Sa panahong hindi ka pa kilala, yung nanay mo nakipag-away na para ilabas ang eksena mo sa agua bendita. sa panahong inakusa mo si albie na nakabuntis at ama ng anak mo, inaway at ininsulto ng nanay mo ang pamilya ng ex mo at nakisali pa mga Marites ng buong Pilipinas.
Tandaan mo sana na minahal ng husto ng mom mo si ellie, she took care of her when you had work. be grateful for that. but you just showed that you're not. Hindi perfect yung nanay mo, i find her quite toxic, too. But she never badmouthed you or ellie.
maraming tao nalinlang sa mga sinasabi mo because you're good in portraying the victim. magaling ka sa mga words na ginagamit mo. but your actions speaks louder that I'm probably one of the few people who don't buy the things you said.
I agree. Medyo wrong move sya dito. Kung perfect daughter sya magets ko sya kaso hindi, especially not knowing kung sino ang tatay ng pinagbubuntis mo Lol
Ahhh so biglang narcissistic bigla si Mader after all what she gave you at napaka tigas ng ulo mo. you are so spoiled Andi before right? Okay. Di ka maawa sa Nanay mo. Tumatanda na eh ginaganyan mo pa.
Feeling ko hindi nya talaga alam. ahahahaah wala syang niloko. Hindi sya beholden to tell the sure father to the public. Wag tayo entitled sa buhay ng celebs.
'narcissistic' is thrown very easily nowadays. Your mother is old na, she is maybe a bit emotional and sensitive but you have to understand all the anxieties that comes with her age.
I dont like the term narcissist pero narcissist is just another adjective like selfish but on steroids. So technically people can throw the word narcissist. Pero hindi porket narcissist ay may narcissistic personality disorder na.
I agree though that before you utter the word "narcissist" meron pang better word like brat, egocentric before saying they are narcissists. Haha
And the mother will post about raising a narcissistic daughter ... What this lady is describing also fits Andi E's behavior right. In accusing her exes for all the faults etc.
Kaloka nman to c Andie, maski nga maling mali ka dati sayo pa rin tlaga kampi ang nanay mo. Jusko, nanira kayo ng buhay ng isang tao pero sinuportahan ka pa rin ng nanay mo! Be thankful naman dyan. 😂
Parang nag aapply din kay Andi yung pinost niya kasi ang narcissist don’t own up to their mistakes. Remember ilang years lumipas nung sa father issue ni Ellie, di nag apologize si Andi. Tapos nitong huli na lang non-apology apology daw si Andi kay Albi. Ganyan ang tunay na narcissist!
I sometimes disagree with my mother and she has ways I don’t like but I never would do that to my mother. I know even if sometimes she gets toxic, she loves me.
Kahit pa sabhin niyang toxic mom niya. She herself should look at herself and asses if ndi ba siya in any point naging toxic. I hope when the time comes na wala na nanay niya, she wont regret any of this. Ano ba naman ang simpleng happy birthday? Nagagawa mo tiisin ang mom mo for that?
ang hirap kasi magpost ng ganyan sa public, mahirap din magsalita kasi di naman alam ang pinagdaanan ni Andi or ano ang relasyon nilang mag-ina.
I have been following Dr. Nicole in IG since 2018 and learned a lot of things from her.
My mother is a narcissist and I already told her a lot of times, jokingly of course ang sabi ko nga kay mama, may gift sya na lahat ng bagay maging tungkol sa kanya hahaha
I hope and pray na wag gawin sayo ng anak mo to balang araw. There is no perfect person or parent. Kahit sabihin naten anung bait ng parent or ng open minded nila sometimes toxic talaga sila. I dont know why Andi needs to do this to her mom, her being a mother too. Ayaw patalo para lang wag sya lumabas na masama or somewhat mapagtanggol sarili nya. You shade your mom pero lumabas din tunay mo pagkatao. Ms Jaclyn may seem toxic to you now but sigurado pag may nangapi sayo yan unang una magtatanggol sayo. Hay this is just sad.
Albie must be laughing right now. And Taylor Swift is also right for saying “your nemeses will defeat themselves before you even get the chance to swing.”
Watch Jaclyn Jose's Cannes speech, when she won the Palm d'Or in 2016. Talagang ipinagmalaki niya si Andie on the international stage (with Briliante Mendoza). 'My daughter, my real life daughter.' A true narcissist parent would have claimed that honour for herself and herself alone. She tried to share the spotlight with them - na hindi gagawin ng tunay na narcissist.
You have to consider also that on the outside narcissists are like that, all good. Its not like every day they abuse. But what about at home? Let's not invalidate but also not tolerate Andi for shaming her mom and exposing her because nothing good comes from doing so, just walk away and cut all ties and go no contact when you encounter one. Even if it is hard.
I don't think narcissistic si Jaclyn. I would know as I have a Mom who is. As in, she gets offended if napuri ako, she's never been proud of any of my accomplishments, madalas akong ipahiya. In my darkest moments, too, she was never on my side. Bagkus, puro sisi, sumbat or criticisms nakukuha. Never support. That I can't say abt Jaclyn as todo siya kung maka depensa sa anak.
12:27 yan ang definition ng narcissist. Kasi kahit kung hidden narcissist si Jacklyn sa kahihiyaan dinala ni Andi who you na si Andi. Pinagtanggol ang anak at inayakan kasi kawawa nga ang apo niya hindi mapanindigan yung akala nila ama ng apo at ginawa niya yun sa tv.
Oo nga 'no! Sobrang proud at emotional nun ni Jaclyn, ayaw niyang umakyat kung di kasama si Andi. Kulang na lang kay Andi niya ibigay ang award. Isa pa, pinagtanggol niya si Andi vs Albie. Or we might not be seeing things...
Oops looks like Andi hasn't really changed from her old ways... Sana naman have some respect to the strong woman who raised and supported you instead of calling her a narcissist. Jaclyn was the one who took care of you and your daughter remember?
Wow! Gaslighting abuser ka. This is what my narc mom and sister would tell me if i spoke to anyone of their bad treatment of me. They want you quiet so they can psychologically abuse you freely. Meanwhile sinisiraan ka nila para mawalan ka ng credibility.
Mahirap talaga pag toxic ang parent. No one understands you except those that went through it. Don’t post na lang Andi kasi ang simpatya ng tao mostly nasa parents talaga esp sa nanay…Philippines is a matriarchial society.
Isa ka pa. Teka narcissist din si andi kasi gusto nya makuha ng simpatya ng madlang people at palabasin mali nanay nya db? Sus pareho silang toxic Pero walang k c andi ipahiya ang nanay nya ng ganyan.
True, we treat parents as faultless and they act almighty just because they provided your basic needs. Pero wala naman nurturing for the child na nangyari growing up. Tapos they expect children to behave as if they were well nurtured.
Mama ko pasaway din Pero never ko sha pinahiya sa buong mundo namin. Respeto tawag dun kahit ano pa ang ginawa ng magulang mo lalo na at magulang ka na rin. Wag irason na respect begets respect dahil the fact na PINILI ka buhayin, tama ng pasalamatan mo yun at kung Di mo sha feel move on ka na. Di mo na kailangan pahiyain.
Anong provided her basic needs? Hello, sa lahat ng scandal ni Andie andyan c Jaclyn to support her maski nga hindi nya alam ang tatay ng anak nya! 😂 Dyan pa lang, hindi na nahiya c Andie sa nanay nya. Oh well, c Albie nga na biktima ni Andie hindi rin nman sya nagsorry. Lol, tingin nyo sinong totoong toxic at narcissist dyan? Lol
Ang ina kahit paulit-ulit madapa ang anak, laging anjan para saluhin at tulongan bumangon ang anak. Hindi matitiis ng isang ina ang kanyang anak. Pero ang anak kayang tiisin ang ina, pinaparinggan pa nga.
2:24 True! Todo tanggol sya kay Andi dati. Lahat ng binabato kay Andi sinasalag niya. Sya din yong nanjan sa kanila ni Ellie nung mga panahong wala pang umaako at nanindigan sa bata. Sa ginagawa ni Andi, pinapakita lang nya na ungrateful sya sa kabila ng ginawa ng nanay niya sa kanya.
Ang daming suwail na anak na artista pati magulang na nagtanggol sa kanila nung napariwara sila eh hindian lang irespeto. Bakit sa social media kayo naglalalabas ng ganyan. Just deal with it privately, Ms Jacklyn and Andi.
Amina do siMs Jacklyn na absent mother sya at priority nya work nya dahil source of income nya yun . Different circumstances ika nga, iba ang style of parenting nila ni Andi. Siguro me misunderstanding din sila sometimes. Sana wag ng patagalin dahil kahit panu suporta pa rin si Ms Jacklyn kay Andi.
Growing up with a Narcissistic parent/s scars you for life. I understand the need to respect them but also take into consideration, the fact that children tried their hardest and best to always accomodate and please them all through their lives. And even though they think they’ve free themselves from them, the trauma remains and shows with how they deal with people around them. It’s a baggage. And we just learn to carry it well.
Kahit minsan di kami magkakaintindihan ng Nanay ko minsan ipinagdadasal ko yon lagi..kahit minsan yamot na yamot na ako sa kakaintindi pero i respect her a lot..biblical po ang paggalang sa magulang.
Familiar sa akin ang Tiktoker na yan. Mahilig mag roleplay tungkol sa parent and daughter moments. Hindi ako sang-ayon sa karamihan ng videos niya, masyadong pang Gen Z. Madalas gusto lang naman ng parents ang best sa anak nila. And no, hindi pa ako parent. Millennial ako na naa-appreciate ang parents ko kahit strict sila.
I've had my share of toxic parents and the best decision for your sanity is to either cut ties or tumira sa malayo. Kaya siguro gusto nya island life so she's far from Jaclyn as possible.
This ungrateful islander is lucky to have a mother like jaclyn jose kasi hindi naman siya makakapasok sa showbiz noon if it weren't for her mother. And despite everything - all the scandals she still defends and accepts andi as she is.
So andi have a lot of time to share this shady video on her instagram but a simple birthday greeting appreciating her mother ay di nya magawa? Buti pa si ellie marunong mag appreciate sa lola jane nya. ♥️
Unfollowed her vlog. This is so low of her. If you believe your mom is narcissist, just keep it to yourself or vent out to your friends. Dont ruin your mom to the public.
Tingin ko may tampuhan na sila before pa ng birthday ni muji, maybe related dun sa pagpopost ni muji nung nakaraan about dun sa band member, we really don’t know. Hindi siguro sila nagkikibuan simula nun, so si muji expect nya babatiin nya nung mag asawa pero hindi. Kaya nagtampo at nagpost sa soc med.
It's weird bc narcissistic people are often charming, impressive and will go out of their way to correct the wrongs that people say about them. Is Jaclyn problematic? Most likely. But narcissism is different and can from overt to covert.
I dont know, im having hard time trusting Andi cause she made people hate Albie Casino (even though he is also problematic) when he really wasnt the father and never apologized. It's possible that both mother and daughter are toxic and if youve got two people who are stubborn, too vocal, emotional and strong personalities, its gonna be that way.
Neverthless, you can be toxic but not narcissistic.
Honestly, narcissistic and toxic are two words that people abuse or overuse. The way I see it most rebellious young people will call anyone who is in their way as narcissists while many who dislike anyone's emotional effect on them calls such as toxic. Such definition puts us all in the category of sometimes narcissistic and to some people toxic. While it is good to be sensitive and to have boundaries, thinking all the time in those terms promotes negativity. Just saying. I wonder though if anyone understands what I am trying to say.
Yeah. And the people who are using these words don't realize they become way more toxic/narcissist when they go on social media to seriously shame others. Bad wokeism.
Narcissist na ang tawag pag mahal na mahal ka ng nanay mo at himihingi kalang ng kaunting pansin dahil bday mo, dati tawag sa kanila nurturing lang...mga bata ngauon iba na! Maraeanasan ml.rin yan angie pag lumaki na yanh tatlo mo!
Obviously hindi mo nagets ang message ng video. Mga papampam ang mga narcissistic sa harap ng ibang tao pero sa loob ng bahay napakahirap nilang pakisamahan. They will make you feel miserable at sila ang ultimate manipulator, sila lang ang tama, pero pag kaharap ibang tao, nag papaawa effect kuno. I dealt with a narcissistic mom too at mas gugustuhin mong maghirap na lang basta malayasan mo lang sila. Dapat nanahimik na lang di Jackie at di na naginarts. Sabagay artista, trabaho nila magpapansin
Ayan too much love Ms. Jaclyn....can kill you. Dati you take too much pride on Andi being liberated, doing whatever she likes; even defending her from all. Pero ito ang isusukli sayo?
Buti nga ikaw mahal na mahal ng nanay mo ako nga parents ko mas kapamilya pa turing sa mga pamangkin nila at sa asawa nila... sabi ko nga sa kanya sa kanila hindi ibang turing mo pero sa akin ang damot nyo at ibang tao ang tingin at turing nyo sa akin ni daddy... kahit na mali ang mga pamangkin nyo at minura mura ako sa harap nyo pati ng asawa nila sila pa kinampihan nyo at ako pa ang masama... pinagawan pa ng magandang bahay sila complete with furniture, grocery as in lahat! walang trabaho pinagaaral yun hilaw na manugang as in! ganun sila kaabusado at kaportunista. kaya ngayon parang we are strangers... we see but dont talk much.. dedma nalang sa sama ng loob ko sa kanila...dalangin ko nga sa kanila na sana pagtanda nyo punasan nila pwet nyo... tapos ikaw nanay mo mahal na mahal ka ayaw mo?? she was your greatest defender when everyone was against you... akin nalang nanay mo? palit tayo?
True. Matanda na nanay nya. Kahit hinde perfect, hinde naman siya lumaki at naghirap sa kalye. Hinde nya utang na loob na binuhay siya but at least be mature enough to accept na nagpakahirap ang nanay nya for her. Why does she have to shame her.
noon ko pa yan napapansin yan si Andy di nya feel nanay nya panay post ng pic ng father nya at miss na miss nya pero sa nanay nya parang malau sya kaya ko nagunfollow sa kanya sa instagram at di na nanonood ng vlog nya nanay na din sya kaya dapat mas naapreciate nya ang mothet nya
I just lost my mum to cancer my upbringing was tough but she did all she can to make our lives better...life is short my heart aches missing her i always told her i love her and showed her how much she's appreciated.
I agree. Her mom is kinda toxic and narcissist person.
ReplyDeleteyes a lot of people agree. I agree. I think by now everyone knows jaclyn is somewht toxic. so there's no point in posting this except to hurt her mom even more. a simple phone call after the jaclyn's post would've been ok. dami ng tiniis ni jaclyn before sa mga kabulastugan ni andy, ano b nmn tunh she didnt greet her on her bday.
DeleteI know. A simple call would make it okay. It's her mom no matter what. Maybe this is just a simple miscommunication. I hope things get better between the two of them. Life is short. You'll never know until it's too late.
DeleteGeneration gap lang yan
DeleteTrue yan 11:41. Life is short! I also have a narcissistic mother and I tried everything from pleasing her to fighting with her and standing up for myself
Deleteto cutting communications completely. Pero hndi ako naging at peace. Now i talk to her again and wala na kong expectations, I just try to show my love, keber na sa reaction nya. I have accepted that she is not perfect(and that no one is).what hurt me before was my expectations na mahalin ng parent without conditions.hndi naman masama magexpect, pero may mga bagay na wala na tayong magagawa and we can either choose to be bitter about it, or be grateful sa kung anong meron. Nashare ko lang. I hope mahing okay sila Andi amd Jaclyn.
Love it sis 12:15 am
Delete12:25 Same here. Minsan kasi learned behavior based sa culture natin eh. Ako rin naman di perfect, so why expect too much from my parents? Talking helps though
Deletei love your attitude 12:25. i wish the best for you and your mom. i lived with a narcissistic dad who i miss so much now that he’s gone. it’s all about tough love for him but he was never physical. looking back i now realize he was a good provider and wanted us to be the best persons we can be. i hope somehow he was able to feel we loved him even tho we’re not the type of family who expresses love thru words.
DeleteParang di naman beh kahit ganon si Jaclyn feeling ko mabait naman sya.
Delete12:25, that's precisely what I'm trying to do nowadays - basically show my love, not expect the same and not care too much about her words, actions and reactions. It's not always easy so I'm really happy to see your comment. Practice makes perfect, right?
DeleteRemember all the good things your mom did for you.
DeleteSi Jaclyn kasi, shinare pa na hindi siya binati ng anak niya kahit pwede namang pag-usapan privately. Siya ang nagpasimula na isapubliko yung problema nila kaya ayun, lumala pa. Pati yung mga ganyang bagay, naipost na.
Delete12:25 thats so healthy! I love that!💖
DeleteAgree 12:25. Lalo na pag tumatanda, matampuhin na. Pero magulang pa din natin sila. When my dad passed away, andami ko regrets na sana i should have spent more time with him, na sana naiparamdam kong mahal ko cia. Kaya ngayon, ang promise ko sa tatay ko, ung love na dapat naibigay ko sa kanya, ibubuhos ko sa mother ko. She is the only parent i have. Para walang regrets in the end.
DeleteNarcissistic un nanay. Ingrata naman in anak. It's a tie lang.
DeleteTodo tanggol sayo yan nung panahon na hindi mo malaman kung sino ba talaga tatay ng anak mo. Lol
ReplyDeleteYes! I remember c mader pa yung matapang away nang away dun sa family ni albie. Tsaka pinagtanggol din xa dati kasi mababa daw tingin ng mga ejercito sa kanya
DeleteTrue!! Kapal ng mukha ni Andi kala mo napaka bait na anak. Walang perpektong anak pero wala ding perpektong magulang. Babatiin lang sa birthday di pa magawa, imbes pinaparinggan pa.
DeleteNanay ka na din, Andi. Sana di mo danasin yang ginagawa mo pagdating ng panahon at malalaki na din anak mo.
Oo nga ! Jacklyn went all out talagang interview kahit saan ang tapang tapang nya
DeleteTapos yun pala na wow mali sya kay andi!
Pinahiya ni andi nanay nya vut jacklyn still accepted her daughter tapos itong si andi di man lang ma lunok ang pride nya
True! Baka cya p ang narcissistic
DeletePanoorin mo ang video and andun ang explanation dyan sa comment mo.
DeleteBecause the blame will still be on Jaclyn. Yes pinagtanggol pero according to the definition of the narcissistic parent, it will all boil down to people thinking on how Jaclyn raised Andy and that Andy made a "mistake" due to how she was raised by Jaclyn. Kaya tanggol si Jaclyn kasi sa kanya mag reflect yun kung pano nya pinalaki si Andy. Paki alam nya kung sino talag tatay. It's all about her being Andy's Mom!
DeleteMy father and I used to have a gap before because of politics. But i was the one who reached out to him first. Sa panahon ngayon, napakaunpredictable ng buhay. Di mo alam malakas ka ngayon tapos bukas wala kana. Mas masarap mabuhay ng wala kang kasamaan ng loob, lalo na magulang mo. Kung di naman kasalanang mortal, magpatawad.
Delete12:06, pareho silang narcissistic. Si Andi din naman, instead of accepting her mistakes, tumahimik lang din siya and she never publicly acknowledged na nagkamali siya. Marami din diyan mga batang galing sa dysfunctional family at may toxic parenst but they turned out fine. Andi attributing all her faults to being raised by a “narcissistic parent” is a perfect example of being a narcissist.
DeleteWow ang kapal mo Andi. Nanay mo pa rin yan.
ReplyDelete10:23, you don't know how it feels to be raised by one.
Delete11:37 I do, but I will never publicly shame her. Minsan maging compassionate din tayo sa mga taong may kinaklahang toxic behaviors and mentality while still protecting ourselves.
DeletePublicly shame her? Sino nauna nagparinig?
DeleteYou have you choose your battle sometimes hindi yong bira ng bira gaya ng iniisip mo 7.45
Delete@1:26 Agree! 100%. My mom is the same. But I realized she's getting old and needs more attention than ever. She is not perfect, but at least hinde ako lumaki sa daan. I've learned to brush off my mom's imperfections because I know I will grow old too and will be hard to love as well. I would'nt want my children to treat me like that. Ano ba naman yung kausapin nya ng maayos in private.
DeleteDisrespectful daughter.
ReplyDeleteLumabas ang tunay niyang ugali
DeleteNever liked her and never watched any of her vlogs.
Deletelmao what? disrespectful and ungrateful for having boundaries? lol
DeleteNever liked them both. Mag-ina nga sila.
Delete12:11 birthday greetings lang hindi pa maibigay ni Andie?! Simple text could have prevented this to start with.
DeleteKapag nasa Manila si Andie all throughout her pregnancy and deliveries diba nasa bahay at kalinga siya ni Jacklyn.
1211 boundaries ba kamo? me boundary ba yung ni di mo malaman sino ba talaga tatay ng anak mo?
DeleteMasyadong pabait si Andi na laging tama hahaha. Ni hindi nga marunong humingi ng tamang apology sa binalahura nya noon. Tsk!
DeleteI can’t blame Andi. I know how it feels to have a toxic mother.
ReplyDeleteA basta mahirap may kaaway lalo na parents mo
ReplyDeleteWag na lang dagdagan pa at mag parinig quiet na lang, cut communication kung mas ok sayo
Omg the plot thickens…
ReplyDeleteUnthankful
ReplyDeleteUngrateful
Delete10:38 shutacca
DeleteNaku andi pakumbaba ka na lang kaya
ReplyDeleteDi natin masabi ang bukas your mother is old na po
Oooohhhh
ReplyDeleteOh, Andi. She is your mom. Why publish your away in public?
Deletesus! ikaw din naman may diprensiya. tigas ulong anak ka din. maglabas kaya vlog nanay mo,.pano magka anak ng suwail
ReplyDeleteTrue. Kung makareact itong si Andi akala mo naman eh dakilang anak sya
DeleteSa mother pa din naman nakasandal kapag nasa City sila based on her vlog na din.
DeleteBig thanks to your narcissistic parent who always got your back everytime you had a scandal.
ReplyDeleteTrue. Tatatnda din sya at pag nagkapamilya na mga anak nya marerealize din nyang normal amg ganun.
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DeleteSo trueeee!
DeleteOh no! I smell war between her and Jaclyn Jose magpapasko pa naman
ReplyDeleteOhh the shade 🕶
ReplyDeleteI love it!
ReplyDeleteAnong I love it ka dyan mas gusto mo mag away sila. Bakit ok si ang mama niya sa isang kapatid. Natigas lang ang ulo ni Andi
DeleteI was raised by a covertly narcissistic mother. Pag aawayin mga anak nya. May paborito golden child nya. Pwedeng ikaw ang golden child sa ngayon pero kapag wala nang mapakinabangan sayo, ikaw naman ang target. Very controlling and manipulative. Pa-victim din. Ganyan pareho sa video. And now that it’s out because you chose to expose the narcissist, you have to get ready. Babalikan ka, sisirain ka kahit sarili ka pang anak. Sana maintindihan ng mga tao na hindi lahat ng magulang marunong magmahal, at hindi porket magulang ay dapat nang pagbigyan lagi. Hindi nagiging tama ang mali dahil lang magulang ka. Sana maunawaan ng mga tao na mahirap maging anak ng mga taong ganyan.
ReplyDeleteSuper agree to this!
DeleteOh madaming naka relate diba? Aminin
ReplyDeleteKung maraming nakakarelate then that says something about Filipino culture and not just our mothers. So it's about understanding her or distancing yourself away from her. Hindi ung puro talak at shade sa social media.
DeleteHugs andi. Di ko alam ito hanggang sa pinoint out ng asawa kong psychologist ang traits ng nanay kong nagpapakita ng pagiging narcissist. Ang hirap mag-reason sa kanila esp that they use our culture and religion as shield
ReplyDeletePopcorn ba bibilhin ko or paluto nako spaghetti at pancit?
ReplyDeleteBut it's your mom who defended you and stayed by your side nung down na down ka.
ReplyDeleteDuring walwal days mo sya nag aalaga ng anak mo
ReplyDeleteNoong na di nya pa mareveal real father party galore parin si girl. Diba nagpang-abot pa sila nung ex nya sa bar.
DeleteKaya ang galing ni ruffa kase never nya tinalikuran and binastos nanay nya. Unlike eto na pumatol pa samantalang she got her back nung mga panahon na nagkakalat siya
ReplyDeleteDyan din ako bilib sa Gutz siblings. Kahit gano ka toxic nanay nila they never speak ill of her in public. For sure may mga sama din ng loob sila sa nanay nila pero di nila yun kinalat. Di na dinagdagan ang samaan ng loob.
Delete2:04 actually ruffa shared how difficult Annabelle is, lalo n noon. Ayaw bati din sila which public see it. Pero they always tried to keep their feud privately.
DeleteShe shouldn't have posted this. Her mom has helped her financially when she decided to quit showbiz, even more, she fought for her when she got pregnant and didn't know who her daughter's dad was.
ReplyDeleteI can totally relate on Andi on this. It's hard to heal pag nanggaling ka sa dysfunctional family. Kahit pa the love is there between a parent and a child, mapapasa mo talaga sa anak mo lahat ng baggages if left unsolved.
ReplyDeletegood to hear may marunong umintindi dito. praying for your healing po.
DeleteTo 1108pm anonymous. Well, her mother is toxic based on what I've read here. However you cannot correct a mistake by making another mistake. Hindi ko alam pinagdaanan mo kaya hindi ako mag komento dyan. Punto, ano rason ni andi at nag post sya sa socmed. Para ipahayiha nanay nya. Si jackyln hindi nya pinahiya anak nya sa mga kabulastugan nya nuon. Isa pa, Yung buhay probinsya kuno ni andi, scapegoat nya lang yon. Kung ano Mam galit nya sa nanay nya, hindi nya na dapat ipakita pa sa mundo.
DeleteKung may tampuhan ang mag ina,sana hindi isinapubliko.Nakakahiya,showbiz ka na nga pati buhay mo gawin mo pang showbiz.
DeleteHello girl si madam jaclyn lang naman ang solong nag palaki sayo at laging nag dedefend sayo every time may mga issue ka. Sana grineet mo na lang ang nanay mo ng belated happy birthday instead of shading her.
ReplyDeletedont you have any friends andi?? although i believe her mom is toxic. you dont have to put it out there for the world to see. it's for you to deal with. she didnt say anything bad about you. the way she worded it parang nagtatampo lng. yes it gabe a bad impression about you but that's how social media works. a simple phone call cguro can at least do the work. it was her bday. i know it's hard being her daughter i totally get it but you could've kept quiet na lng. she was fighting everyone with her guts, her life, as in everyone who were bashing you, or questioning the father of your child, and every other issue you had before. you know she loves you. the public already knows she's narcissistic and kinda toxic, you dont have to show her that you're telling the world. my mom and I have issues, but I always complain and cry to my friends. my closest friends. I have never and will never post something like that about my mom for all the world to see. that's what my bffs are for. so I can tell them what I feel
ReplyDeleteStrongly agree.
Delete11:09 baka nga wala siyang friends. People who post their dirty laundry and issues in socmed normally dont have true friends. I have lots of that on my feed. Nakakaawa din mga taong ganun.
DeleteAko rin. I have a narcissist and toxic Mom who haven't talked to me in years just because of a perceived slight. Sobrang taas din ang pride na even if I reached out a number of times, nagmatigas siya. It sent me into nervous breakdown, therapies. Payo ng psychiatrist, live your life, be the mother to your kids that you wished you have and if ever nagkabati kami ng Mom ko one day, just humor her everytime she veers to her toxic ways. In other words, dedma at keber na lang. In the meantime, pinasa Diyos ko na lang din. And kahit anong pilit ng mga Marites kong mga kamag anak to spill the geans abt our rift, I remained quiet. Only hubby, siblings at very close friends ko lang nakakaalam. Kahit ano pang pamamahiyang gawin ng Mom ko sa akin, I refused to retaliate, mindful na may mga anak din akong nanonood. Nilagay ko na lang lahat ang effort ko to having an open, honest and loving relationship sa hubby at kids ko dahil ayokong maulit ito sa next generation.
DeleteTo: Nov4, 12:17pm
DeleteI can understand what you are going thru. I, too, grew up with a narcissistic mom. In my case, with an enabler of a dad. So Wala akong kakampi. Hanggang ngayon, ganun pa rin sila. Hindi pwede nalang na we just let it go kasi what happens also to us? We have our own mental health to take care of Bec Meron rin tayong Mga sariling pamilya na kailangan alagaan at mahalin ng Tama. hindi sila pwede maging punching bag natin Pagna tri-trigger tayo. Hindi fair sa Mga asawa at anak natin.
Marami dito, nag co-comment.. madali nilang sinasabi na “nanay mo yan, mahalin mo no matter what”. Automatic ba na masama at ang May kasalanan ang anak? Meron rin naman parent na hindi maganda ang Turing sa anak dba?
Hindi naman na hindi natin minamahal (in our own way and capacity) our parent/s, but Sana maintindihan ng marami dito na nag ju-judge sa atin- Na marami sa atin, hindi tayo swinerte na lumaki sa isang loving and stable home kagaya ng Iba dito.
Magulo ang ang dysfunctional home. Na kung ang parent ang Dapat nagtuturo sa atin ng tama, ay nagtuturo ng mali.
Cut ties ka nalang mars o dedma. Kabastusan yan nag shade ka pa. Tama yung comment sa taas. Pinagtanggol, nilaban ka nyan nung di mo knows sino ba talaga tatay ng anak mo
ReplyDeleteParehas kayong may mali. Ang mali dito pumatol pa ang anak sa social media. Kaloka
ReplyDeleteNarcissistic pero hindi ka iniwan ng nanay mo nung nabuntis ka girl
ReplyDeleteDiba? Sino ba kakampi nya nung mga oras na yon diba nanay nya.
DeleteBasta i remember those interviews of jacklyn defending andi versus albi
ReplyDeleteAs in sobrang tapang at halos umiyak na si jacklyn because of andi sa ginawa ni albie yun pala MALI ang pinaglalaban nya.sobrang nakakahiya yun
Andi mag isip isip ka! Mas grabe ang ginawa mo sa nanay mo
Bakit pag malapit na ang pasko, todo buhos ang bagyo
ReplyDeleteWe all know the mom doesn’t back down, so waiting for mommy’s back at ya
ReplyDeleteTakot daw cya k andi sabi niya sa interview niya k ogie Diaz
Deletemagkaugali lang naman sila. ginawa mo lang namang pang cover up yung "buhay probinsya" mo para makaiwas ka sa skandalong ginawa mo dati. lol
ReplyDeleteTotoo to. Lakas maka "I live in an island pero malaki ung bahay namin dito.' kala ko simple living, lol.
DeleteAgree! Wala na siyang mukhang maihaharap kaya ngayon overhaul daw ng image. Pero kahit anong gawin niya, lumalabas at lumalabas ang totoong ugali niya.
DeleteTrue! Pero wag ka, ang dami pa ring naniniwala dyan kay Andie. 😂 Jusko, hindi nga magawang magsorry dun kay A na winarak tlaga nila ang pagkatao. Lok
DeletePatay ka diyan Andi. Now it’s miss Jaclyn’s turn mag post naman yun ng video titled, “raising a daughter who is a narcissist”. Lol. Nung pinaikot mo buong pinas at pamilya mo kung sino tatay ni Ellie. Nanay mo nagtanggol sayo para di masira career mo. Sinira pa ninyo career ni Albie. So who’s the narcissist?? Pwede both din right? Apple doesn’t fall from the tree after all.
ReplyDeleteMas toxic na anak yunf di nakakaalala ng bday ng mother
ReplyDeleteYour mom maybe narcissist but you're a brat Andi. Just because your mom was hoping you'd greet her galit ka na agad?!
ReplyDeleteSa panahong hindi ka pa kilala, yung nanay mo nakipag-away na para ilabas ang eksena mo sa agua bendita.
sa panahong inakusa mo si albie na nakabuntis at ama ng anak mo, inaway at ininsulto ng nanay mo ang pamilya ng ex mo at nakisali pa mga Marites ng buong Pilipinas.
Tandaan mo sana na minahal ng husto ng mom mo si ellie, she took care of her when you had work. be grateful for that. but you just showed that you're not.
Hindi perfect yung nanay mo, i find her quite toxic, too. But she never badmouthed you or ellie.
maraming tao nalinlang sa mga sinasabi mo because you're good in portraying the victim. magaling ka sa mga words na ginagamit mo. but your actions speaks louder that I'm probably one of the few people who don't buy the things you said.
I agree. Medyo wrong move sya dito. Kung perfect daughter sya magets ko sya kaso hindi, especially not knowing kung sino ang tatay ng pinagbubuntis mo Lol
DeleteTama, hindi na sana siya nag post ng ganito.
Delete11:19 - You said it best.
DeleteAhhh so biglang narcissistic bigla si Mader after all what she gave you at napaka tigas ng ulo mo. you are so spoiled Andi before right? Okay. Di ka maawa sa Nanay mo. Tumatanda na eh ginaganyan mo pa.
ReplyDeleteAndy, are you a good daughter? Please lang naman, Mother mo todo tanggol sayo nong niloko mo lahat kung sino naka buntis sayo.
ReplyDeleteFeeling ko hindi nya talaga alam. ahahahaah wala syang niloko. Hindi sya beholden to tell the sure father to the public. Wag tayo entitled sa buhay ng celebs.
Delete12:02 they took a DNA test, Jake is confirmed to be the father
Delete12:02 pero un inakusa mong tatay eh hindi sana dba nag apologize ka and own up to ur fault. Eh dba narcissistic din sya kc di nya kinorek lol
Delete'narcissistic' is thrown very easily nowadays. Your mother is old na, she is maybe a bit emotional and sensitive but you have to understand all the anxieties that comes with her age.
ReplyDeleteShe did say she's afraid to grow old and alone.
DeleteI dont like the term narcissist pero narcissist is just another adjective like selfish but on steroids. So technically people can throw the word narcissist. Pero hindi porket narcissist ay may narcissistic personality disorder na.
DeleteI agree though that before you utter the word "narcissist" meron pang better word like brat, egocentric before saying they are narcissists. Haha
And the mother will post about raising a narcissistic daughter ... What this lady is describing also fits Andi E's behavior right. In accusing her exes for all the faults etc.
ReplyDeleteKaloka nman to c Andie, maski nga maling mali ka dati sayo pa rin tlaga kampi ang nanay mo. Jusko, nanira kayo ng buhay ng isang tao pero sinuportahan ka pa rin ng nanay mo! Be thankful naman dyan. 😂
ReplyDeleteOk that's it. Unfollowing you na dahil bastos at walang utang na loob kang anak Andi
ReplyDeleteParang nag aapply din kay Andi yung pinost niya kasi ang narcissist don’t own up to their mistakes. Remember ilang years lumipas nung sa father issue ni Ellie, di nag apologize si Andi. Tapos nitong huli na lang non-apology apology daw si Andi kay Albi. Ganyan ang tunay na narcissist!
ReplyDeleteThis! Kung ano ang puno, siya rin ang bunga.
DeleteSuper proud pa sayo nanay mo during Agua Bendita, Ma' Rosa etc days.. Tapos ganyan ka sa kanya. Tsk.
ReplyDeleteOh akala ko ba nagbago na? Nagpapaniwala ksi sa nakikita sa youtube at ig
ReplyDeletePlastikada kasi yang mga artista.
DeleteI sometimes disagree with my mother and she has ways I don’t like but I never would do that to my mother. I know even if sometimes she gets toxic, she loves me.
ReplyDeleteKahit pa sabhin niyang toxic mom niya. She herself should look at herself and asses if ndi ba siya in any point naging toxic. I hope when the time comes na wala na nanay niya, she wont regret any of this. Ano ba naman ang simpleng happy birthday? Nagagawa mo tiisin ang mom mo for that?
ReplyDeleteAndi is the narcissist so it wouldn’t matter or change a thing even if her mother pass on.
DeleteWalang galang sa Nanay. Ito ba yong happy islanders ? Bait baitan..
ReplyDeleteang hirap
ReplyDeletekasi magpost ng ganyan sa public, mahirap din magsalita kasi di naman alam ang pinagdaanan ni Andi or ano ang relasyon nilang mag-ina.
I have been following Dr. Nicole in IG since 2018 and learned a lot of things from her.
My mother is a narcissist and I already
told her a lot of times, jokingly of course
ang sabi ko nga kay mama, may gift sya na lahat ng bagay maging tungkol sa kanya hahaha
Tama yan. Just humor your Mom na lang to deflect any potential alitan. Lalu na pag matanda na.
DeleteI hope and pray na wag gawin sayo ng anak mo to balang araw. There is no perfect person or parent. Kahit sabihin naten anung bait ng parent or ng open minded nila sometimes toxic talaga sila. I dont know why Andi needs to do this to her mom, her being a mother too. Ayaw patalo para lang wag sya lumabas na masama or somewhat mapagtanggol sarili nya. You shade your mom pero lumabas din tunay mo pagkatao. Ms Jaclyn may seem toxic to you now but sigurado pag may nangapi sayo yan unang una magtatanggol sayo. Hay this is just sad.
ReplyDeleteAlbie must be laughing right now. And Taylor Swift is also right for saying “your nemeses will defeat themselves before you even get the chance to swing.”
ReplyDeleteShe’s revealing that she never changed after all.
DeleteWatch Jaclyn Jose's Cannes speech, when she won the Palm d'Or in 2016. Talagang ipinagmalaki niya si Andie on the international stage (with Briliante Mendoza). 'My daughter, my real life daughter.' A true narcissist parent would have claimed that honour for herself and herself alone. She tried to share the spotlight with them - na hindi gagawin ng tunay na narcissist.
ReplyDeleteAgree!! Louder!
DeleteIf FP can pin 📌 a comment on this issue isa ito sa dapat naka pinned 👍🏻
Deleteparang si andi nga yung narcissist. the audacity of this girl mula noon hanggang ngayon pavictim walang character development. lol
DeleteYou have to consider also that on the outside narcissists are like that, all good. Its not like every day they abuse. But what about at home? Let's not invalidate but also not tolerate Andi for shaming her mom and exposing her because nothing good comes from doing so, just walk away and cut all ties and go no contact when you encounter one. Even if it is hard.
DeleteMismo!!!
DeleteI don't think narcissistic si Jaclyn. I would know as I have a Mom who is. As in, she gets offended if napuri ako, she's never been proud of any of my accomplishments, madalas akong ipahiya. In my darkest moments, too, she was never on my side. Bagkus, puro sisi, sumbat or criticisms nakukuha. Never support. That I can't say abt Jaclyn as todo siya kung maka depensa sa anak.
Delete12:27 yan ang definition ng narcissist. Kasi kahit kung hidden narcissist si Jacklyn sa kahihiyaan dinala ni Andi who you na si Andi. Pinagtanggol ang anak at inayakan kasi kawawa nga ang apo niya hindi mapanindigan yung akala nila ama ng apo at ginawa niya yun sa tv.
DeleteOo nga 'no! Sobrang proud at emotional nun ni Jaclyn, ayaw niyang umakyat kung di kasama si Andi. Kulang na lang kay Andi niya ibigay ang award. Isa pa, pinagtanggol niya si Andi vs Albie. Or we might not be seeing things...
DeleteNanay mo pa din sya at sya ang nagtatanggol sa iyo everytime na nagkakalat ka. Hindi man perfect ang nanay mo, nanay mo pa din sya periodt!
ReplyDeleteOops looks like Andi hasn't really changed from her old ways... Sana naman have some respect to the strong woman who raised and supported you instead of calling her a narcissist. Jaclyn was the one who took care of you and your daughter remember?
ReplyDeletePasalamat sya marunong pa din magapologize nanay nya kahit narcissistic.
ReplyDeleteLolz true! Narc actually do not apologize for things!
DeleteIf this is for her mom, oh well, nasaan ang respeto. Period.
ReplyDeleteThis should not be posted in public na kasi kasiraan ng pamilya mo kasiraan mo din.
ReplyDeleteWow! Gaslighting abuser ka. This is what my narc mom and sister would tell me if i spoke to anyone of their bad treatment of me. They want you quiet so they can psychologically abuse you freely. Meanwhile sinisiraan ka nila para mawalan ka ng credibility.
Delete6:13 Kung minsan nasa atin din yan. Di natin naiisip yung mga ginagawa nating di tama kaya kapag pinapagalitan, feeling api tayo.
DeleteAndi na feeling santa na when she transferred to Siargao. She's not a good daughter din
ReplyDeleteMahirap talaga pag toxic ang parent. No one understands you except those that went through it. Don’t post na lang Andi kasi ang simpatya ng tao mostly nasa parents talaga esp sa nanay…Philippines is a matriarchial society.
ReplyDeleteIsa ka pa. Teka narcissist din si andi kasi gusto nya makuha ng simpatya ng madlang people at palabasin mali nanay nya db?
DeleteSus pareho silang toxic Pero walang k c andi ipahiya ang nanay nya ng ganyan.
True, we treat parents as faultless and they act almighty just because they provided your basic needs. Pero wala naman nurturing for the child na nangyari growing up. Tapos they expect children to behave as if they were well nurtured.
DeleteMama ko pasaway din Pero never ko sha pinahiya sa buong mundo namin. Respeto tawag dun kahit ano pa ang ginawa ng magulang mo lalo na at magulang ka na rin. Wag irason na respect begets respect dahil the fact na PINILI ka buhayin, tama ng pasalamatan mo yun at kung Di mo sha feel move on ka na. Di mo na kailangan pahiyain.
DeleteAnong provided her basic needs? Hello, sa lahat ng scandal ni Andie andyan c Jaclyn to support her maski nga hindi nya alam ang tatay ng anak nya! 😂 Dyan pa lang, hindi na nahiya c Andie sa nanay nya. Oh well, c Albie nga na biktima ni Andie hindi rin nman sya nagsorry. Lol, tingin nyo sinong totoong toxic at narcissist dyan? Lol
DeleteAng ina kahit paulit-ulit madapa ang anak, laging anjan para saluhin at tulongan bumangon ang anak. Hindi matitiis ng isang ina ang kanyang anak. Pero ang anak kayang tiisin ang ina, pinaparinggan pa nga.
ReplyDeleteNanay ko hindi ganyan. She abandoned us.
DeleteWell hindi inabandona ni Jaclyn si andi, Bagkus kinupkop at pinagtanggol kahit napapahiya na.
Delete2:24 True! Todo tanggol sya kay Andi dati. Lahat ng binabato kay Andi sinasalag niya. Sya din yong nanjan sa kanila ni Ellie nung mga panahong wala pang umaako at nanindigan sa bata. Sa ginagawa ni Andi, pinapakita lang nya na ungrateful sya sa kabila ng ginawa ng nanay niya sa kanya.
DeleteAng daming suwail na anak na artista pati magulang na nagtanggol sa kanila nung napariwara sila eh hindian lang irespeto. Bakit sa social media kayo naglalalabas ng ganyan. Just deal with it privately, Ms Jacklyn and Andi.
ReplyDeleteAmina do siMs Jacklyn na absent mother sya at priority nya work nya dahil source of income nya yun . Different circumstances ika nga, iba ang style of parenting nila ni Andi. Siguro me misunderstanding din sila sometimes. Sana wag ng patagalin dahil kahit panu suporta pa rin si Ms Jacklyn kay Andi.
ReplyDeleteGrowing up with a Narcissistic parent/s scars you for life. I understand the need to respect them but also take into consideration, the fact that children tried their hardest and best to always accomodate and please them all through their lives. And even though they think they’ve free themselves from them, the trauma remains and shows with how they deal with people around them. It’s a baggage. And we just learn to carry it well.
ReplyDeleteI’m here for the comments.
ReplyDeleteKahit minsan di kami magkakaintindihan ng Nanay ko minsan ipinagdadasal ko yon lagi..kahit minsan yamot na yamot na ako sa kakaintindi pero i respect her a lot..biblical po ang paggalang sa magulang.
ReplyDeleteang sakit nito for jaclyn . I hope hindi nya mapanood to
ReplyDeleteKahit na narcissist,remember shes a single mom.Mahirap magpalaki ng anak pag mag isa ka lang.Respeto sana.
ReplyDeleteFamiliar sa akin ang Tiktoker na yan. Mahilig mag roleplay tungkol sa parent and daughter moments. Hindi ako sang-ayon sa karamihan ng videos niya, masyadong pang Gen Z. Madalas gusto lang naman ng parents ang best sa anak nila. And no, hindi pa ako parent. Millennial ako na naa-appreciate ang parents ko kahit strict sila.
ReplyDeleteI've had my share of toxic parents and the best decision for your sanity is to either cut ties or tumira sa malayo. Kaya siguro gusto nya island life so she's far from Jaclyn as possible.
ReplyDeleteThis ungrateful islander is lucky to have a mother like jaclyn jose kasi hindi naman siya makakapasok sa showbiz noon if it weren't for her mother. And despite everything - all the scandals she still defends and accepts andi as she is.
ReplyDeleteSo andi have a lot of time to share this shady video on her instagram but a simple birthday greeting appreciating her mother ay di nya magawa? Buti pa si ellie marunong mag appreciate sa lola jane nya. ♥️
ReplyDeleteMost artistas are narcissistic, sorry yun ang luck of the draw eh. Hope Andi able to be at peace with it and have available resources to manage.
ReplyDeleteUnfollowed her vlog. This is so low of her. If you believe your mom is narcissist, just keep it to yourself or vent out to your friends. Dont ruin your mom to the public.
ReplyDeleteNarcissistic, toxic and alike. Words easily thrown these days. 🙄🙄🙄
ReplyDeletesi sarah geronimo nga na ka bait na bata, nagpapakumbaba pa sa nanay. itong si andi maldita talaga
ReplyDeleteMedyo toxic nga si miss jacklyn pero i don't find her a narcissistic person. Baka ikaw pa andi
ReplyDeletePatawarin mo na andi life is short
ReplyDeleteTingin ko may tampuhan na sila before pa ng birthday ni muji, maybe related dun sa pagpopost ni muji nung nakaraan about dun sa band member, we really don’t know. Hindi siguro sila nagkikibuan simula nun, so si muji expect nya babatiin nya nung mag asawa pero hindi. Kaya nagtampo at nagpost sa soc med.
ReplyDeleteIt's weird bc narcissistic people are often charming, impressive and will go out of their way to correct the wrongs that people say about them. Is Jaclyn problematic? Most likely. But narcissism is different and can from overt to covert.
ReplyDeleteI dont know, im having hard time trusting Andi cause she made people hate Albie Casino (even though he is also problematic) when he really wasnt the father and never apologized. It's possible that both mother and daughter are toxic and if youve got two people who are stubborn, too vocal, emotional and strong personalities, its gonna be that way.
Neverthless, you can be toxic but not narcissistic.
True. Mas naniniwala pa akong c Andie ang narcissist kesa kay Jaclyn. Enabler na nanay c Jaclyn kaya ang anak narcissist. Lol
DeleteWhen the dust will settle, you will regret saying this to your mom.
ReplyDeleteTama ka
Deletewhen the dust settles kasi yun.
DeleteMy gosh, as if good daughter ka, on scale 1-10, 10 being perfect, eh 4 ka lang naman, kung makapintas
ReplyDeleteI won’t even give her 4! She’s 0
DeleteTo Jaclyn pwede po mag pa ampon? Alagaan po kita kasi wala na ako mommy.
ReplyDeleteSusme naman, birthday po ni mother. Konting Happy Birthday lang sa nagpalaki sa yo daizz! Laki ng problema ni Andi??
ReplyDeleteHonestly, narcissistic and toxic are two words that people abuse or overuse. The way I see it most rebellious young people will call anyone who is in their way as narcissists while many who dislike anyone's emotional effect on them calls such as toxic. Such definition puts us all in the category of sometimes narcissistic and to some people toxic. While it is good to be sensitive and to have boundaries, thinking all the time in those terms promotes negativity. Just saying. I wonder though if anyone understands what I am trying to say.
ReplyDeletethis is on point!
DeleteI exactly know what you mean.
DeleteYeah. And the people who are using these words don't realize they become way more toxic/narcissist when they go on social media to seriously shame others. Bad wokeism.
DeleteYes! Finally someone said it!
DeleteAgree
DeleteParang " classy" at " alta" lang 😁😁😁
DeleteNarcissist na ang tawag pag mahal na mahal ka ng nanay mo at himihingi kalang ng kaunting pansin dahil bday mo, dati tawag sa kanila nurturing lang...mga bata ngauon iba na! Maraeanasan ml.rin yan angie pag lumaki na yanh tatlo mo!
ReplyDeleteObviously hindi mo nagets ang message ng video. Mga papampam ang mga narcissistic sa harap ng ibang tao pero sa loob ng bahay napakahirap nilang pakisamahan. They will make you feel miserable at sila ang ultimate manipulator, sila lang ang tama, pero pag kaharap ibang tao, nag papaawa effect kuno. I dealt with a narcissistic mom too at mas gugustuhin mong maghirap na lang basta malayasan mo lang sila. Dapat nanahimik na lang di Jackie at di na naginarts. Sabagay artista, trabaho nila magpapansin
Delete4.36 the woman on the video did not go into details so it's hard to understand what narcissism she's talking about.
Delete7:18 she did explain. sarcastically speaking. hindi mo lang nagets
DeleteYour mom was your greatest supporter/defender in your darkest moment tapos may pa ganito ka Andi?
ReplyDeleteAyan too much love Ms. Jaclyn....can kill you. Dati you take too much pride on Andi being liberated, doing whatever she likes; even defending her from all. Pero ito ang isusukli sayo?
ReplyDeleteButi nga ikaw mahal na mahal ng nanay mo ako nga parents ko mas kapamilya pa turing sa mga pamangkin nila at sa asawa nila... sabi ko nga sa kanya sa kanila hindi ibang turing mo pero sa akin ang damot nyo at ibang tao ang tingin at turing nyo sa akin ni daddy... kahit na mali ang mga pamangkin nyo at minura mura ako sa harap nyo pati ng asawa nila sila pa kinampihan nyo at ako pa ang masama... pinagawan pa ng magandang bahay sila complete with furniture, grocery as in lahat! walang trabaho pinagaaral yun hilaw na manugang as in! ganun sila kaabusado at kaportunista. kaya ngayon parang we are strangers... we see but dont talk much.. dedma nalang sa sama ng loob ko sa kanila...dalangin ko nga sa kanila na sana pagtanda nyo punasan nila pwet nyo... tapos ikaw nanay mo mahal na mahal ka ayaw mo?? she was your greatest defender when everyone was against you... akin nalang nanay mo? palit tayo?
ReplyDeletePROJECTION ata to! Baka ikaw Andi ang narcissistic lol!
ReplyDeleteTrue. Matanda na nanay nya. Kahit hinde perfect, hinde naman siya lumaki at naghirap sa kalye. Hinde nya utang na loob na binuhay siya but at least be mature enough to accept na nagpakahirap ang nanay nya for her. Why does she have to shame her.
DeleteKahit ano pa si Jaclyn,mother mo pa rin siya.Nabiguan naman kayo ng magandang buhay.She is a single mother.
ReplyDeletenoon ko pa yan napapansin yan si Andy di nya feel nanay nya panay post ng pic ng father nya at miss na miss nya pero sa nanay nya parang malau sya kaya ko nagunfollow sa kanya sa instagram at di na nanonood ng vlog nya nanay na din sya kaya dapat mas naapreciate nya ang mothet nya
ReplyDeleteAng layo ni Sarah G kay Andi! Sabi ni Jacklyn noon si Andi walang contribution Kahit nung doon pa sa kanya nakatira. Napakabait ni Sarah sa magulang.
ReplyDeleteshe might have a narcissistic mother, but she only has ONE mother.
ReplyDeleteMasakit ito if i’m her mother.
ReplyDeleteI just lost my mum to cancer my upbringing was tough but she did all she can to make our lives better...life is short my heart aches missing her i always told her i love her and showed her how much she's appreciated.
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