i don't get the hate. kung hindi naman christian ang iba and don't believe in Jesus, bakit affected? naniniwala sa langit at gusto makapunta sa langit pero hindi naniniwala kay Jesus? if you don't believe, then bakit ka naniniwala sa heaven and hell?
Mali kasi ang interpretation ni Ateng. Tinuturo yan sa Theology na Christianity is inclusive regardless of religion & belief. It isn't exclusive for Christians. Faith alone can not bring you salvation. Actions, good deeds, are what's more important because what the mouth says & mind thinks, the body should also do. Walk the talk ika nga. Also, di niya sinabi na kasama diyan ang God's mercy. Siya ang Ultimate Savior who sees beyond one's sins.
I'm guessing not all of them believe in heaven or hell. But you are missing the point here. Bwisit sila sa mga kagaya ni Joyce na intolerant, close-minded, extremist Christians
10:07 PM - affected ang madami regardless of belief because you have to correct stupidity. That's why we have education. But education is losing out to stupidity pa din.
Ditto anon 12:16 tapos the audacity to preach mang iinfluence pa it's fear mongering! Murderers can go to heaven as long as magrepent pero pano pag non believer pero never gumawa ng crime or naging mabuting tao naman straight to hell ganern.lol Naalala ko sabi if your religion teaches you to hate and condemn just others believe differently then you belong in the wrong one.
Pero yung mga catholics/christians kung makapag-judge sa mga non-believer/agnostic/atheist akala mo mga nakapatay ng tao..parang ang tingin nila is superior sila sa iba...akala ko ba Diyos lang ang nakaka-alam kung anong mangyayari sa atin or kung saan tayo dapat mapunta? Bakit nagju-judge na agad sila na sa hell o impyerno mapupunta pag hindi ka naniniwala sa kanya? I don't read bible and I do not go to church. I just pray. I'm not religious but I think I am a spiritual person. I still believe in a higher being. At mas naniniwala ako na mas mahalaga ang compassion at empathy kesa sa religion
12:11 Misinterpretation of the Word can cause you. Faith in Jesus Christ alone can save you, pero that is, if true 'yung faith mo. Jesus has done His work on the cross, secured ka na sa eternity. Ang laban mo ngayon is here pa rin, to keep doing good kahit minsan magkasala ka pa rin. May nudge ng Holy Spirit tuwing nakakaisip ka ng hindi maganda, may paalala para maiwasan mo magkasala. Mag-iiba rin mindset mo at marami lang mapapansin na di mo mapapansin dati (not talking exclusively about spiritual stuff, pati mga ideology na sinasang-ayunan mo). Gagawa ka ng mabuti hindi dahil gusto mong na-save OR kasi kelangan mong patunayan sa ibang tao na mabuti lang tao. Gagawa ka ng mabuti kasi gusto mong pasiyahin ang Diyos at para nakatulong sa iba.
12:11 Faith alone in Christ will save people from hell and not by good works Ephesians 2:8-9. A real Christian will show love and kindness to others and not take advantage of others. People should not look up to others because no one is perfect but look to Christ. Sometimes the truth hurts our feelings especially talking about sins and hell, but God doesn't care about our feelings...He cares about our salvation, and that's why He gave us the Bible. God's love is open to anyone who will believe in him through Christ and repent from their sins. I'm a sinner just like anybody but forgiven. Love, love love
Dinaig mo pa si Pope na nagsabi na non-believers can still go heaven. Kaya wala akong tiwala sa mga masyadong pa religious na tao eh ibang iba ang ginagawa sa mga sinasabi
this. and to be honest, may something weird talaga sa mga taong loud and proud na religious. ewan parang mas may attitude problem pa sila compared sa mga hindi palasimba.
I don't believe in God, I don't go to church, i don't pray, and whatever (they don't know,I'm silent, i just go with the flow) At i swear yung mga religious na tao na nakikilala ko nakaka usap sila ang pinaka judgemental sa lahat!
Ako naman I believe in a Higher Being. I'm a Catholic but I stopped going to Church a long time ago, I just pray on my own. Ang dami kong kilala na palasimba pero pangit ng ugali, mga hypocrites. Nakakawalang gana din yung holier than thou mentality ng ibang Christians na kulang na lang isaksak sa baga mo ang beliefs nila. I prefer adhering to the teachings of Buddhism and would convert if I could. Laidback lang kasi ako na tao, masyadong intense ang ibang relihiyon for me. Gusto ko rin yung worship ng Bread of Life, practical sa everyday living ang mga sinasabi ng pastor at hindi repetitive at boring.
Me too. I follow the law and do good to others. Period. I don't need to do good dahil "sabi sa bible" and "this will give you everlasting life" but because it's the right thing to do.
11:01 that only means you are selfish, rude and entitled enough to judge again and think that you know what we believe in aside from hindi totoo and bible at ang dyos nyo sa bible. Maraming hindi Christian na walang religion na iba ang paniniwala after life . Hindi porket Christian ka eh paniniwala mo lang ang tama. Lahat naman ng religions ang sinasabi mila sila ang tama. Saan ka dun?
Mas mabuti ng hindi ka nagsisimba pero naniniwala ka pa rin kay God. Walang mawawala sayo if naniniwala kang may God. Please restore your faith. Kahit di ka na magsimba atleast beleive na meron. Kasi what if tama kayo, walang God. Wala namang mawawala sa mga believers. Eh pero panu pag meron pala, lugi masyado kayong mga non-believers.
11:03 Scientific facts and studies also support the Bible, not to mention the historical ones. There'll be a ride awakening on Judgement Day for both non-believers and even believers who thought they were saved pero sarili nila mga sinusunod, hindi ang Diyos
Wala akong pake sa mga religion ay Diyos na yan ha I'm ignorant, so For example nang rape at pumatay ka naging religious at nagsisi ka lang bigla diretso langit ka na pag na dead ka? Yun ang logic diba? Nakakaloka naman yan Si Jeffrey dahmer bago namatay naging Christian po at bible study LOL
Wala namang pilitan sa paniniwala kay Jesus and his teachings eh. That's the goodness of God, he gave us free will. Hindi niya ipilit sarili nya kung ayaw nyo sa kanya. Nag aantay lang sya lumapit ka.
God is forgiving. God can see the sincerity of our hearts. Don't underestimate the power of believing. For u, scare nothing but death, u can no longer repent after death. Goodluck
12:28, if you sincerely repent for your sins then you'll be forgiven. Ang tanong lang, sigurado ka bang at the last minute of your life maiisip mo pang magrepent or magkakaroon ka ng opportunity to repent?
12:28 if talagang sincere ang faith Niya, why not? Offered 'yan sa lahat, including us, di lang kay Dahmer. Harap pa tayong lahat sa Diyos sa Judgement Day noh.
Speaking of last minute, naalala ko tuloy yung video clip sa Family Guy. Gumawa ng krimen si Osama Bin Laden tapos inaresto at b*naril siya ng mga pulis. Bago siya mamatay sabi niya, "I believe in Jesus Christ as my savior!" Tapos nakapunta siya sa langit at sumigaw ng "Yes!"
12:28 kung nabasa mo ang Bible dun sa time na nakapako si Jesus sa cross, diba yung isang kasama nya na kriminal na nakapako din nagrepent at naniwala kay Jesus. Wala na syang naggawa na good deeds after kasi namatay din sya right after. So that shows faith alone, grace alone and Christ alone.
God is not dependent on what you believe in. He is real, the Truth. Hindi naman sya namimilit. Kung ano ang paniniwala nyo, go on. It wouldn't change the existence of God.
Then you do not have faith at all. You can be baptized, read the Bible, and claim to be a Christian and yet still go to hell kasi ganyan lang kababaw tingin mo sa sinabi ni Joyce, based on the Bible na rin.
'Yan 'yung mahirap na message ng Christianity na maski ibang Christians di matanggap. Narrow road nga, kaunti lang maliligtas. Yung sa tattoo na verse, taken out of context pa kasi di binabasa buong Bible
Buddhist believes in god. Like catholic na may mama mary sa guddhist may buddha pero pinaka mataas talaga si god pa rin. Protestant kasi yan mga ganyan na kala nila sila lang christian. Sa wiki nakalagay catholics. If they sre really christian bakit hindi nila ginagaya si jesus na walang pinipili na tao kahot magnanakaw pa.
12:33 Narinig mo naman siguro 'yung podcast. Kahit ano pa background mo, basta tumanggap ka sa Diyos ng buong puso at hindi lip service lang, ligtas ka. Si Jesus walang pinipili pero di rin Niya tinotolerate 'yung kasalanan.
Trisha Alara is right, simple as that 'yung message ng gospel. Gusto kasi ng mga tao sila masusunod kesa sa Diyos. No amount of good deeds will bring us to heaven kasi even the 'kindest purest' souls have failed to leave up to the Ten Commandments, so yes, belief in God lang talaga makakapagligtas sayo.
True. Gusto kasi ng tao to work their way to heaven, gusto magpasikat na mabait sila na they do good works etc. They want the credit na kaya sila ligtas dahil sobrang bait nila. Those are the reasons why they can't accept the simple message ng gospel
Wrong. Mag-aral ka muna ng Theology before you spew nonsense. Tinuturo yan especially on inclusivity. Faith alone isn't enough, it should be backed up by good deeds. Marami diyan lip service lang ang faith. Maraming ganyan na Christians.
12:14 Faith alone can save you kasi Jesus is the only way, truth, and life. You do good works kasi dapat bukal sa loob mo 'yan to please God and be kind to other people, not because gusto mo maligtas. Yan ang Theology, walang kapalit ang salvation kaloka ka
12:14 Theology teaches faith alone is enough. And if talagang naniniwala ka na si Jesus Savior mo at na-save ka na, magbabago ugali mo. Gugustuhin mong gumawa ng mabuti dahil bukal sayo 'yun. Also, nasabi rin naman sa Bible na magkakasala ka pa rin eh. Sa tingin mo nawala salvation mo di porket nagkamali ka? No. Your soul would want to try and always do good because of Him, so if nadapa ka, babangon at babangon ka. You will do better next time.
Kung di naman pala sila believers, bakit sila affected? Opinion nya yun e. Yan ang paniniwala nya. E wag kayong maniwala din. Wala nang personal attacks or what.
Apply the same concept din. If she believes she will go yo heaven, then people saying they don’t want to go to heaven if heaven contains the likes of her should not affect you or her as well.
Yes, lahat tayo sinners kaya nga Sabi na look unto Jesus only kasi pag sa tao ka titingin talagang matitisod ka. I admire you Joyce that you didn’t water down the gospel hindi katulad ng Ibang celeb na Christians na laging playing safe pag sumagot just to please people
Sana kasi i-watch yung buong video/padcast.. ang galing nya in fairness.. now ko lang sya narinig.. sabi naman nya, yun sng belief nya and if hindi yun ang belief ng iba, she respects it.. ano problema???
Grabe na ang mga tao sa socmed, parang naghihintay na lang may mapuna sa ibang tao para icancel at maging viral. Nakakatakot na minsan magshare ng opinyon.
How you react as a non-believer speaks about how flimsy your belief in atheism is. She answered the question based on what she knows and what the Christian Church and doctrine has been saying for thousands of years since Jesus
Maraming nag rereact kasi nga hindi sila secure sa position nila. I mean may mga Muslim ba na kumontra sa mga preaching ng Christian and vise versa? At this day and age diba respetuhan naman. Yung mega react is yung mga atheist and agnostic na floating lang. Christians may seem judgemental pero part kasi yun..you want others to know the truth. Alangan naman tahimik lang and condone pa.
As far as I know, no one knows the truth. The bible has been nitpicked, selected pages not included, translated several times. How do you know you are in the true religion? If one understands histortly, you'll know from which pagan beliefs Christianity took its roots. So your truth may not be the truth you think it is. How strong is your faith? Can you handle believing in a lie?
12:20 Through historical, scientific, spiritual and logical evidence. The mere fact na maraming tinamaan yet nagse-search ng iba't ibang religion (yoga, Hinduism, etc.) is a sign we know deep down we are spiritual beings made to worship a God.
If you don't believe in hell, then why are you worried? Unless at the back of your mind you believe and would still want to go to heaven? Make up your mind nalang.
That’s not being judgemental. Non believers will go to hell that’s true, unless they repent and put their trust in the Lord and accept Jesus as their saviour.
This is why children should be educated on as much religions as possible. Educated ha, not indoctrinated. Para lumawak ang utak and learn to see and appreciate people's different religions/points of view. Bahala na sila paglaki kung ano bet nilang religion, mas malakas ang faith if it's out of personal choice not pushed on the person by the family/society.
May kilala ako, simba ng simaba as i s uper active. Pag labas palang ng pinto ng simbahan chismosa activated saka kinakahiya nya magulang nya kasi mahirap daw hahaha
If you want to know the truth. Go straight to the source which is His Word the Bible! Hindi sa kapitbahay, magulang, priest, ka chat! You will not believe how good our God is - it's time for us to open the Bible!
Lol.. girl do you even know how the bible was written? How the passages were chosen? Aral din ng history pag may time. Kung ang basis mo ng faith mo is a book, then you'd be surprised that might not be enough for your salvation
1:28 AM - So, you can read Hebrew, Aramic and Greek? If you can't, anyone can "translate" the Bible and claim it's the correct translation - and you won't know any better.
2:59 Even in English, madaling baguhin ang nasa Bible. Yet, all those horrors people went through hindi inalis. Wag nating tingnan lahat as a conspiracy theory, kaya nga may scholars who do those translations eh.
3:58 PM - Huh? Anong conspiracy theory mo dyan eh mga fundamentalists ang mahilig sa conspiracy theory - starting with Adam and Eve who fundamentalists believe actually existed. Add to that a total rejection of Darwin's theory of evolution.
Hebrew, Aramic and Greek are the original languages the bible was written in with Greek the original language of the new testament. Anong sinasabi mong madaling baguhin?
@4:17 based in your response, you don't know and read the Bible. The words there were not written by just whoever, it is God 's Breath , it is alive! I'm guessing you are also not a believer if you think it's just a book. Therefore, I will not engage into further discussion with you and leave you and suggest that you should read "case for christ" book when you have the time since you seemed like a logical person. You will find tons of proof that Bible is not just a a book.
12:15 Then what is? Good works? Are those enough? Kasi if tinimbang ka against the Ten Commandments sa Judgement Day, can you honestly say na wala kang nabali doon?
Typical born again christian na nakapag bible study lang kala mo alam na alam na ang laman ng bible base sa sariling interpretation... tama nga ang twag sauo christian extremist!
Feeling q meant Nia is Christianity is when you accept Jesus as your savior. Ibig sbhn once I accept mo SI Lord ay you gonna live by his grace wholeheartedly.hindi nmn ibig sbhn na nakapagawa ka Ng Mali TAs maniwala ka ke Lord e save ka na you need to repent and accept the consequences
Tsaka na ako makikinig sa podcast nya pag alam nya na mga pinagsasabi nya also pag educated enough na sya, i dont think na may degree nga sya eh tas wala pa sa ayos pang influence ni ateng haystttt sis aral muna before u preach
naku dami ko kilalang relihiyoso pero ang asal, meeehhhh!! lalo kapag about sa pera nawawala na ang pagkarelihiyoso lumalabas na din ang pagkaganid sa worldly things.
Ba't andaming galit? Turo yan ng religion nila. Yan paniniwala nila. So bakit kayo galit? Kung sa religion nyo or 'common sense' nyo ay di yan totoo, kailangan ba magalit sa paniniwala ng iba? If nonbeliever kayo, bakit galit din? Di ka naniniwala sa diyos pero naniniwala ka sa hell? Ganern?
Go Joyce! Expected na yan. People will be against you.
Yung mga nagsasabing judgemental dyan, ikinaproud nyo ang name calling nyo? Bait yarn? Hindi nyo lang magets ang context kaya ganyan ang reaksyon nyo.
Affected kayo kasi deep inside you are afraid. Hindi siya judgemental, she is just true to her faith.
And sa mga nagsasabi na ayaw ng mga religious people dyan kasi self-righteous and judgemental, well, who's judgemental now? You keep on generalizing people from a group based on a certain few na fallible. False analysis agad e, generalization. Yes, there can be hypocrites walking around, playing church, but that truth does not eliminate the truth of the gospel. Sinners are everywhere but those who are really true to their faith will change! Ganon yun. Aral muna theology bago dada.
Former business partner nga ng kapatid ko, every weekend may pa prayer meeting sa tindahan nila and bible study na required pa sila mag attend kahit Catholic sya. And known sa kanila yung owner na super active sa church nila. Pero kaya naging former inalis na nag kapatid ko investment nya sknya kse yung kaltas ng Kuya binubulsa nya, madalas dinadahilan nya "nagastos" daw or "naipa sweldo muna" bsta parating may excuse. Never nya nakuha ng buo yung amount na asa contract nila. Di ko po nilalahat ah, this is just based on our own experience na di porket maka Diyos ka at madasalin eh saksakan ka na ng bait.
True. Dalawa ang personal ko na kakilala na ganyan. At ganun din naman there are good religious people. I have friends na mabuting Christian at Katoliko.
Nanghusga kasi sya agad. Very definite answer. Ang Diyos lang ang makakapagsabi kung maliligtas ka o hindi. It doesn’t matter kung ano interpretation mo sa bible, si God pa rin ang nakakaalam at may karapatan mang-husga. As Christians, we have to acknowledge that God is all-knowing and we are not. We shouldn’t be making these discriminatory statements at least in a public space.
True. I think it's more of the tone of what she says that implies that she knew more than we dont.
May lusot sya sa argument kasi sinabi nya non-believers. Non-believers in God or non-believers in Hell? You can not believe in God but have a concept of heaven and hell.
I'm a non-practicing Catholic. I don't go to church to hear mass a long time ago because of the clergies who are so.political instead of just spreading the GOOD NEWS! But I hate these celebs who keep on preaching or "so Christians (kuno)" but doing otherwise. I mean, di ba bawal sa Christianity ang pre-marital sex pero kung makapag flex silà laging on a date na sila lang. And do you expect na wala silang gagawin na iba aside from making kwento na sila lang dalawa sa room nila? And every bf/gf ganun gawa? So hypocrites 🙄
I don't understand why people are so offended by what she said...she has a right to believe whatever she wants to believe and has a right to say it - it's called FREE SPEECH. People are always trying to find ways to be offended....not everyone thinks the same and she has a right to say what she believes is right in her heart.
Pansinin nyo daw kasi sya. Basta ang alam ko, di sukatan ng kabutihan ng tao ang regular na pagaimba o pagdadasal. Ung hindi paggawa ng masama sa kapwa at sarili ang batayan nun. Respect natin ung ideology ng iba kasi choice nila naman un.
Ung ate ko minsan naiiinis nako sa kanya, sa kakabasa ng Bible kung mag-usap kmi mga magkakapatid sa group chat lagi na lng may mga ganyan.. Di maliligtas chu-chu. Dapat ganito, ganyan. Sinabi ko sa kanya, "ate naniniwala naman ako ke God pero diba dapat irespeto natin ung paniniwala ng bawat isa, ibat-ibang relihiyon, iba't ibang paniniwala. Ang mahalaga ay ung wala kang inaapakang ibang tao". ;-)
Do you realize that by telling her that, inapakan mo na din paniniwala niya? So paano na? Yan ang problema ng truth is inclusive. I hope you can consider evaluating why you believe in what you believe in. Truth is absolute, nag-iisa. Explore the ff aspects of your belief: origin, meaning, morality and destiny. I do hope too you can ask your Christian sister about it.
personally, my say is if you want to go to heaven; you should have a relationship with Jesus and the lord because they are the reason why you want to be in heaven. You should follow Jesus, be like Jesus. Para sa non believers naman, kanilang desisyon na yan. They dont believe exist because they are more on the earthly things. siguro they will change their mind , not because of near death experience but because of change of heart.
So kini-keep mo lang sayo 'yung good news? If we are a country encouraging free speech, you are free to talk about your beliefs. Christ ate with sinners and even talked with the Samaritan woman on the well (kaaway ng mga Israelites ang mga Samaritans, take note) Pero He didn't tolerate their sons. Believer ka ba talaga if you do not have enough love to tell people the truth, even if it may hurt?
I just find bible yielding people too much, na para bang mas mahal sila ng Diyos kasi kabisado nila mga bible verse. I have relatives who live by the words of the bible, literally. Na tipong kumain ka ng baboy e sin na yun. As in yung ulam namin, pinick-out niya yung sahog na baboy hahaha. While I respect them, ang labo lang ng di ka kakain ng baboy kasi sin yun, pero pagchichismisan niyo ung kapitbahay hahaha. Sakin lang, God will love us all without discrimination so why should we let people decide if worthy tayo or hindi of "salvation"?
No one should decide if you are saved or not however, it is written in the Bible kung ano 'yung magiging basis ng salvation, which Joyce Pring clearly explained. Hindi tayo ang masusunod sa Diyos. Also, there are people who read the bible pero mali naman pagkakaintindi so obviously, Mali 'yung hindi ka kakakain ng baboy kasi sina I sa Bible. Walang ganun dun
Leviticus 11:7. 7 And the pig, though it has a split hoof completely divided, does not chew the cud; it is unclean for you.
At the end of the day, faith comes in all forms and all degrees. We cannot police people and tell them what you are doing will not bring you to heaven. Tao lang din tayo. Gawa lang din ng tao ung bible. Kung ano ang nasa puso, that’s what matters and the real measure of sincerity. Catholic school bred din ako but I came to realize that while faith can be taught, it is up to us kung paano iaapply. Kung conservative ang standards ng christianity and by the book, even yang CCF di mageexist.
I live in a Buddhist country, but they are so open and welcoming to other religions. Hardly in years I grew up here that I heard them putting down other religions or saying they are the only ones who can enter heaven. Oth, there are many Christians here who are disrespect to the Buddhists, and many of them are Filipinos!
Guys, it's podcast. You have a choice not to listen. It's her faith/belief. If you do not believe in what she said, then shrug it off. Why are you so affected? It's not as if, she's forcing you to believer her. If you want to confirm what she said, read the Bible. It's all there. Read it with the intention of finding the truth.
sabi nila ang hell ay puntahan ng mga tao ayaw kay God. kasi diba if kunwari sinner ka tapos kasama mo mababait na tao, grabe ung shame nun. eh lalo pa if kasama mo si God na holy of holy, mas lalong parusa un if kasama mo sya tapos ayaw mo maniwala sa kanya. if we believe in God daw, si Jesus na ung nagcover ng sins natin. if di tayo believer, walang magccover ng own sins natin.
wala din “good” person sabi ni Jesus, lahat kasi sinner kahit baby pa lang diba may original sin na. Si Lord lang ang good, ang standard ng good. kahit bayaran natin ang sins natin ng good work, it will never be enough. cguro magkakaalaman na lang talaga pag end of life na
Agree. For we all sin and fall short of the glory of God. Whatever a person believes in, that’s the standard God will use to judge you. Sadly, ALL fall short regardless of what standard/belief except for one - Jesus.
hindi naman nya sinabi sumali tayo sa ccf, or kung san sya nagsservice, so hindi naman cult ung ginagawa nila kasi you are free to choose kung san ka magchurch or kung ano belief mo. saka nga if non believer, bakit affected eh di nga believer.
As a Pinoy who was brought up Catholic, may paniniwala talaga tayong may hell and heaven. But as I grow older and hindi nman mayaman, ang hirap at unfair ng buhay. Hindi rin nman nakakatulong ang paniniwala. Kaya bahala na kayo what you believe in life pero ang self righteous nitong girl. 😂
Religion isn’t about “ You CANT do that because it’s against my religion instead of I CANT do that because it’s against my religion.” You can’t please everybody and not all that happened to you paniniwalaan ng tao. Respect their opinions so they would respect yours. Mga tao kasi ginagawang kumplikado lahat basta pagdedebatehan lang. Religion doesn’t define us a mas a person, we have different circumstances so what’s works for you , works for you. Alam mo naman ang mga Netizens makapag argue lang.
As a nonbeliever, ang wish ko ay hindi na patulan to. Yung interview kasi ay galing dun sa vlog ng ex ni Alodia na sumisikat lang ang content pag may drama. Wag nating pagbigyan mga misis! Charot
I dont get the hate. If you dont believe in what she said about her faith journey, then don’t. I dont see anything wrong in what she said. I belong to a religion different from hers but I don’t see anything wrong with her freedom to speak in what she believed in.
I'm a non-believer so I couldn't care less. I believe that when we die, we just die. No soul going to heaven, or hell. Our life stops here in this world. Rather believing in God, I believe in people. I try my best to do good to others not because this is what the bible says but because it's just the right thing to do.
The Gospel is offensive naman talaga to non-believers. Jesus was persecuted and He warned His followers that they will be persecuted as well, so okay lang yan. May reward yan sa heaven.
I'm agnostic, raised Catholic, but not practicing. Wala ako nakitang mali sa sinabi nya. Beliefs nya yan eh. Ako I don't have the same views, same as I don't have the same views as many other religions. Kanya kanyang paniniwala. Religion and faith is very subjective. To each their own.
It's because of this baluktot na mentality which is why the Philippines is the way it is. Walang integrity at honesty ang mga tao. Yes, mangungurakot ako today pero i will ask forgiveness later, also i'm a believer, maliligtas ako. Seriously? No. I have friends who believe in a different God, no not Jesus,and i believe in my heart that they will be saved based on their actions, not their God. There are agnostics who found charities ans literally devote their life serving others. What makes you think your belief alone is enough to save you? You will be judged same as them. And I can almost guarantuee that none of you guys here 100% sure na sa heaven sila mapupunta. If you are, rethink your religion.
Welcome na welcome sa hell yang mga netizens na yan 😆
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Delete11:58 God is my saviour. Ikaw maliligtas ka ba ng mga idols mo?
Delete12:27 anf do you think God loves condescending people like you haha onting self reflection baks
Delete12:17 minus 50 daw ang makadiyos kuno pero tsismosa sa langit. lels
Delete3:58 Walang nakasulat na ganyan sa Bible. Basahin mo kasi ang Bibliya para matuto ka huwag puro tiktok 😆
Deletebinasa lang ata niya yung nakalagay sa libro?
ReplyDeletei don't get the hate. kung hindi naman christian ang iba and don't believe in Jesus, bakit affected? naniniwala sa langit at gusto makapunta sa langit pero hindi naniniwala kay Jesus? if you don't believe, then bakit ka naniniwala sa heaven and hell?
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DeleteHindi lang kasi christian ang naniniwala sa hell. At yung ibang religion hindi naniniwala kay jesus.
DeleteMali kasi ang interpretation ni Ateng. Tinuturo yan sa Theology na Christianity is inclusive regardless of religion & belief. It isn't exclusive for Christians. Faith alone can not bring you salvation. Actions, good deeds, are what's more important because what the mouth says & mind thinks, the body should also do. Walk the talk ika nga. Also, di niya sinabi na kasama diyan ang God's mercy. Siya ang Ultimate Savior who sees beyond one's sins.
DeleteI'm guessing not all of them believe in heaven or hell. But you are missing the point here. Bwisit sila sa mga kagaya ni Joyce na intolerant, close-minded, extremist Christians
Delete10:07 PM - affected ang madami regardless of belief because you have to correct stupidity. That's why we have education. But education is losing out to stupidity pa din.
DeleteDitto anon 12:16 tapos the audacity to preach mang iinfluence pa it's fear mongering!
DeleteMurderers can go to heaven as long as magrepent pero pano pag non believer pero never gumawa ng crime or naging mabuting tao naman straight to hell ganern.lol
Naalala ko sabi if your religion teaches you to hate and condemn just others believe differently then you belong in the wrong one.
Si 12:11 ang nakatumpak. Ganun yun
DeletePero yung mga catholics/christians kung makapag-judge sa mga non-believer/agnostic/atheist akala mo mga nakapatay ng tao..parang ang tingin nila is superior sila sa iba...akala ko ba Diyos lang ang nakaka-alam kung anong mangyayari sa atin or kung saan tayo dapat mapunta? Bakit nagju-judge na agad sila na sa hell o impyerno mapupunta pag hindi ka naniniwala sa kanya? I don't read bible and I do not go to church. I just pray. I'm not religious but I think I am a spiritual person. I still believe in a higher being. At mas naniniwala ako na mas mahalaga ang compassion at empathy kesa sa religion
Deletewho told you naniniwala lahat sa heaven and hell?
Delete12:11 Misinterpretation of the Word can cause you. Faith in Jesus Christ alone can save you, pero that is, if true 'yung faith mo. Jesus has done His work on the cross, secured ka na sa eternity. Ang laban mo ngayon is here pa rin, to keep doing good kahit minsan magkasala ka pa rin. May nudge ng Holy Spirit tuwing nakakaisip ka ng hindi maganda, may paalala para maiwasan mo magkasala. Mag-iiba rin mindset mo at marami lang mapapansin na di mo mapapansin dati (not talking exclusively about spiritual stuff, pati mga ideology na sinasang-ayunan mo). Gagawa ka ng mabuti hindi dahil gusto mong na-save OR kasi kelangan mong patunayan sa ibang tao na mabuti lang tao. Gagawa ka ng mabuti kasi gusto mong pasiyahin ang Diyos at para nakatulong sa iba.
DeleteYung comment ng unang 12:32 am October 14 ay may sense.
Delete12:11 Faith alone in Christ will save people from hell and not by good works Ephesians 2:8-9. A real Christian will show love and kindness to others and not take advantage of others. People should not look up to others because no one is perfect but look to Christ. Sometimes the truth hurts our feelings especially talking about sins and hell, but God doesn't care about our feelings...He cares about our salvation, and that's why He gave us the Bible. God's love is open to anyone who will believe in him through Christ and repent from their sins. I'm a sinner just like anybody but forgiven. Love, love love
DeleteMy opinion, too. Some seem don't have faith but don't want to go to hell and/or want to go to heaven. So sino ang hypocrite?
DeleteShe has an opinion but talks like shes an expert in it. Thats why she got backlash. Religion will always be a divisive subject.
Delete6:41. Exactly who gave her the power to judge people who can go to heaven or not?
DeleteDinaig mo pa si Pope na nagsabi na non-believers can still go heaven. Kaya wala akong tiwala sa mga masyadong pa religious na tao eh ibang iba ang ginagawa sa mga sinasabi
ReplyDeleteyes extremist yan mga over judgemental and bullies
DeleteKaya nga. Pa religious, bible verses ang bio pero mkapagpost/comment, wagas.
Deletethis. and to be honest, may something weird talaga sa mga taong loud and proud na religious. ewan parang mas may attitude problem pa sila compared sa mga hindi palasimba.
Deletebalat sibuyas tayong mga pinoy. sensitive masyado. majority mga kristyano.
ReplyDeleteI don't believe in God, I don't go to church, i don't pray, and whatever (they don't know,I'm silent, i just go with the flow)
ReplyDeleteAt i swear yung mga religious na tao na nakikilala ko nakaka usap sila ang pinaka judgemental sa lahat!
I just follow the law
Yun lang po
Im sure pag near death situation ka na mapapa Lord save me ka din haha
DeleteGod have mercy on ur soul🥺 There's still time sis, Jesus is waiting. Salvation is through Him
DeleteSame sis! And true, very judgmental talaga sila. Holy holy hahahaha
DeleteAko naman I believe in a Higher Being. I'm a Catholic but I stopped going to Church a long time ago, I just pray on my own. Ang dami kong kilala na palasimba pero pangit ng ugali, mga hypocrites. Nakakawalang gana din yung holier than thou mentality ng ibang Christians na kulang na lang isaksak sa baga mo ang beliefs nila. I prefer adhering to the teachings of Buddhism and would convert if I could. Laidback lang kasi ako na tao, masyadong intense ang ibang relihiyon for me. Gusto ko rin yung worship ng Bread of Life, practical sa everyday living ang mga sinasabi ng pastor at hindi repetitive at boring.
DeleteDame mong hanash bekla.. madalas naman OMG mo..
DeleteMe too. I follow the law and do good to others. Period. I don't need to do good dahil "sabi sa bible" and "this will give you everlasting life" but because it's the right thing to do.
Delete11:01 that only means you are selfish, rude and entitled enough to judge again and think that you know what we believe in aside from hindi totoo and bible at ang dyos nyo sa bible. Maraming hindi Christian na walang religion na iba ang paniniwala after life . Hindi porket Christian ka eh paniniwala mo lang ang tama. Lahat naman ng religions ang sinasabi mila sila ang tama. Saan ka dun?
DeleteMas mabuti ng hindi ka nagsisimba pero naniniwala ka pa rin kay God. Walang mawawala sayo if naniniwala kang may God. Please restore your faith. Kahit di ka na magsimba atleast beleive na meron. Kasi what if tama kayo, walang God. Wala namang mawawala sa mga believers. Eh pero panu pag meron pala, lugi masyado kayong mga non-believers.
DeleteIt's logical to think that there is a higher being. Sa katawan mo nalang e, on how the systems on our body works, ang galing kaya.
Delete11:03 Scientific facts and studies also support the Bible, not to mention the historical ones. There'll be a ride awakening on Judgement Day for both non-believers and even believers who thought they were saved pero sarili nila mga sinusunod, hindi ang Diyos
DeleteThere are a large percentage of scientists, in the present and in history, who believe in God or a Higher Being.
DeleteWala akong pake sa mga religion ay Diyos na yan ha I'm ignorant, so For example nang rape at pumatay ka naging religious at nagsisi ka lang bigla diretso langit ka na pag na dead ka? Yun ang logic diba?
ReplyDeleteNakakaloka naman yan
Si Jeffrey dahmer bago namatay naging Christian po at bible study LOL
Wala namang pilitan sa paniniwala kay Jesus and his teachings eh. That's the goodness of God, he gave us free will. Hindi niya ipilit sarili nya kung ayaw nyo sa kanya. Nag aantay lang sya lumapit ka.
DeleteGod is forgiving. God can see the sincerity of our hearts. Don't underestimate the power of believing. For u, scare nothing but death, u can no longer repent after death. Goodluck
DeleteHahaha! baklang Dahmer na yowwwnn!!! Nakuha kapang mag pa bautismo..
DeleteExactly! Last minute lang na save mapupunta pa rin daw langit kahit maraming ginawang kasalanan
DeleteOmg! Ang dami nyan sa TikTok about Dahmer naging Christian nga sya tapos dami sa TikTok nasa heaven daw sya
Delete12:28, if you sincerely repent for your sins then you'll be forgiven. Ang tanong lang, sigurado ka bang at the last minute of your life maiisip mo pang magrepent or magkakaroon ka ng opportunity to repent?
DeleteAnd sadly, may reason na sila to do bad things kasi "mapapatawad din naman basta magrepent" lol
Delete12:28 if talagang sincere ang faith Niya, why not? Offered 'yan sa lahat, including us, di lang kay Dahmer. Harap pa tayong lahat sa Diyos sa Judgement Day noh.
DeleteSpeaking of last minute, naalala ko tuloy yung video clip sa Family Guy. Gumawa ng krimen si Osama Bin Laden tapos inaresto at b*naril siya ng mga pulis. Bago siya mamatay sabi niya, "I believe in Jesus Christ as my savior!" Tapos nakapunta siya sa langit at sumigaw ng "Yes!"
Delete11:39 Good thing cartoon lang sya LOL Simply saying you are a Christian doesn't make you one
DeleteKaya nga hindi ako palasimba kasi although di lahat pero maraming self-absorbed, self-righteous, condescending religious people. Yung iba tsismosa.
Delete12:28 kung nabasa mo ang Bible dun sa time na nakapako si Jesus sa cross, diba yung isang kasama nya na kriminal na nakapako din nagrepent at naniwala kay Jesus. Wala na syang naggawa na good deeds after kasi namatay din sya right after. So that shows faith alone, grace alone and Christ alone.
DeleteGod is not dependent on what you believe in. He is real, the Truth. Hindi naman sya namimilit. Kung ano ang paniniwala nyo, go on. It wouldn't change the existence of God.
DeleteAng dami pa ring holier-than-thou. These people are disgusting.
ReplyDeleteHindi lahat nang may mic pinagpo podcast 😂
ReplyDeleteIt’s like she’s saying na pwede ka pumata, basta repent after.
ReplyDelete**pumatay
DeleteExactly! lol!
DeleteThen you do not have faith at all. You can be baptized, read the Bible, and claim to be a Christian and yet still go to hell kasi ganyan lang kababaw tingin mo sa sinabi ni Joyce, based on the Bible na rin.
Delete'Yan 'yung mahirap na message ng Christianity na maski ibang Christians di matanggap. Narrow road nga, kaunti lang maliligtas. Yung sa tattoo na verse, taken out of context pa kasi di binabasa buong Bible
ReplyDeleteSo Buddhists and people with other religions that don’t worship God, matic impyerno na pala ang punta? Edi wow.
DeleteBuddhist believes in god. Like catholic na may mama mary sa guddhist may buddha pero pinaka mataas talaga si god pa rin. Protestant kasi yan mga ganyan na kala nila sila lang christian. Sa wiki nakalagay catholics. If they sre really christian bakit hindi nila ginagaya si jesus na walang pinipili na tao kahot magnanakaw pa.
Delete12:07 Yes. But if hindi sila naniniwala sa Christianity, why would this be an issue?
Delete12:33 Narinig mo naman siguro 'yung podcast. Kahit ano pa background mo, basta tumanggap ka sa Diyos ng buong puso at hindi lip service lang, ligtas ka. Si Jesus walang pinipili pero di rin Niya tinotolerate 'yung kasalanan.
DeleteTrisha Alara is right, simple as that 'yung message ng gospel. Gusto kasi ng mga tao sila masusunod kesa sa Diyos. No amount of good deeds will bring us to heaven kasi even the 'kindest purest' souls have failed to leave up to the Ten Commandments, so yes, belief in God lang talaga makakapagligtas sayo.
ReplyDeleteTrue. Gusto kasi ng tao to work their way to heaven, gusto magpasikat na mabait sila na they do good works etc. They want the credit na kaya sila ligtas dahil sobrang bait nila. Those are the reasons why they can't accept the simple message ng gospel
DeleteWrong. Mag-aral ka muna ng Theology before you spew nonsense. Tinuturo yan especially on inclusivity. Faith alone isn't enough, it should be backed up by good deeds. Marami diyan lip service lang ang faith. Maraming ganyan na Christians.
Delete@12:14 why do I have to study Theology eh nandyan naman ang Bible. Salita mismo ng Diyos.
Delete@12:14 Judgmental ka. Do you think you are spared come judgement day? Hypocrite ka din day! Galing mo mag salita.
Delete@10:44:theology?hindi ba dapat Bible ang basis?sabi nga sa Ephesians,for it is by faith that we are saved and not by works so that we cannot boast..
Delete12:14 Faith alone can save you kasi Jesus is the only way, truth, and life. You do good works kasi dapat bukal sa loob mo 'yan to please God and be kind to other people, not because gusto mo maligtas. Yan ang Theology, walang kapalit ang salvation kaloka ka
Delete12:14 Theology teaches faith alone is enough. And if talagang naniniwala ka na si Jesus Savior mo at na-save ka na, magbabago ugali mo. Gugustuhin mong gumawa ng mabuti dahil bukal sayo 'yun. Also, nasabi rin naman sa Bible na magkakasala ka pa rin eh. Sa tingin mo nawala salvation mo di porket nagkamali ka? No. Your soul would want to try and always do good because of Him, so if nadapa ka, babangon at babangon ka. You will do better next time.
DeleteHindi niyo naintindihan sinabi nung Trish. Sarcasm yun. Against siya sa sinabi ni Joyce Pring.
Delete11:45 Gets namin. Sarcasm man ganun 'yung exact meaning. Which is weird kasi against sya kay Joyce pero 'yun ang basic barebones message ng Gospel
DeleteKung di naman pala sila believers, bakit sila affected? Opinion nya yun e. Yan ang paniniwala nya. E wag kayong maniwala din. Wala nang personal attacks or what.
ReplyDeleteKasi ang yabang niya na she is saved kuno.
DeleteLol that’s not an “opinion”
Delete1035 her lack of respect sa religion/beliefs nang iba. So hypocrite calling out non believers as if sa langit ang punta nya
DeleteApply the same concept din. If she believes she will go yo heaven, then people saying they don’t want to go to heaven if heaven contains the likes of her should not affect you or her as well.
DeleteSo pag di believer di napuwede magdisagree? Utak where art thou? E paano kung believer pero taliwas sa beliefs ang ginagawa?
DeleteSana sa kaibigan o kapitbahay lang nya sinabi at hindi sa public.
DeleteWell opinion ko mali sya at napaka entitled nya based sa mga sinabi nya.
Delete11:36 natamaan ka kasi kaya sa tingin mo mayabang sya
DeleteGo Joyce I'm with you. Spread the word of God. Even Jesus was hated once by the people.
ReplyDelete11:01 imbis na makahikayat siya mas na-off pa mga tao
DeleteTRUE.. spread the Gospel of God.
DeleteMga hipokrita
DeleteYes, lahat tayo sinners kaya nga Sabi na look unto Jesus only kasi pag sa tao ka titingin talagang matitisod ka. I admire you Joyce that you didn’t water down the gospel hindi katulad ng Ibang celeb na Christians na laging playing safe pag sumagot just to please people
Delete12:52 It's okay. Jesus was hated so of course you will hate His followers too
DeleteSana kasi i-watch yung buong video/padcast.. ang galing nya in fairness.. now ko lang sya narinig.. sabi naman nya, yun sng belief nya and if hindi yun ang belief ng iba, she respects it.. ano problema???
ReplyDeleteI believe in that too. Kaunti lang talaga ang maliligtas. Mas marami ang magperish sa hell dahil masyado ng makasalanan ang mundo.
ReplyDeleteGrabe na ang mga tao sa socmed, parang naghihintay na lang may mapuna sa ibang tao para icancel at maging viral. Nakakatakot na minsan magshare ng opinyon.
ReplyDeleteI agree
DeletePlatform mo nga yan pero minsan preno preno din. Self-righteous and holier than thou tlga eh. Linis masyado
ReplyDeletePano sya naging malinis?? Inamin nga nya nagkakamali sya duh?
DeleteHow you react as a non-believer speaks about how flimsy your belief in atheism is. She answered the question based on what she knows and what the Christian Church and doctrine has been saying for thousands of years since Jesus
DeleteMaraming nag rereact kasi nga hindi sila secure sa position nila. I mean may mga Muslim ba na kumontra sa mga preaching ng Christian and vise versa? At this day and age diba respetuhan naman. Yung mega react is yung mga atheist and agnostic na floating lang. Christians may seem judgemental pero part kasi yun..you want others to know the truth. Alangan naman tahimik lang and condone pa.
ReplyDeleteAs far as I know, no one knows the truth. The bible has been nitpicked, selected pages not included, translated several times. How do you know you are in the true religion? If one understands histortly, you'll know from which pagan beliefs Christianity took its roots. So your truth may not be the truth you think it is. How strong is your faith? Can you handle believing in a lie?
DeletePwede ring nagreact kasi niloloko nyo mga tao sobra
DeleteHow do you know it’s the truth?
Delete12:20 Through historical, scientific, spiritual and logical evidence. The mere fact na maraming tinamaan yet nagse-search ng iba't ibang religion (yoga, Hinduism, etc.) is a sign we know deep down we are spiritual beings made to worship a God.
DeleteAng yabang. Kawawa naman kaming mga non-believers will be rot in hell. So judgemental.
ReplyDeleteIf you don't believe in hell, then why are you worried? Unless at the back of your mind you believe and would still want to go to heaven? Make up your mind nalang.
DeleteKung hindi ka believer at di nagkatotoo sa tingin mo, why are you so pressed about it? Yeah, make up your mind.
DeleteThat’s not being judgemental. Non believers will go to hell that’s true, unless they repent and put their trust in the Lord and accept Jesus as their saviour.
DeleteHindi sya judgemental tinamaan ka lang.
DeleteI am being sarcastic. If we die, we just die. There is no heaven and hell.
DeleteDaming tinamaan daming nag react
ReplyDeleteNon believers pero naniniwala sa langit?
ReplyDeleteNakakapagtaka di ba? If they don't believe in Jesus then why believe that heaven and hell exist?
DeleteMay something talaga sa bibig ni ate. Or the way na magsalita
ReplyDeleteThis is why children should be educated on as much religions as possible. Educated ha, not indoctrinated. Para lumawak ang utak and learn to see and appreciate people's different religions/points of view. Bahala na sila paglaki kung ano bet nilang religion, mas malakas ang faith if it's out of personal choice not pushed on the person by the family/society.
ReplyDeleteSana ganito pananaw ng karamihan. I want to change my church pero winoworry ko what will my fam and friends say.
DeleteOr choose none of them. Agree.
Delete8:08 you can do it without announcing. Ako nakakapasok na lang sa simbahan if invited sa binyag. Hindi naman ako extremist na atheist.
DeleteMay kilala ako, simba ng simaba as i s uper active. Pag labas palang ng pinto ng simbahan chismosa activated saka kinakahiya nya magulang nya kasi mahirap daw hahaha
ReplyDeleteThat's their problem not yours!
Deletebyanan ko ata yang dinedescribe mo.
DeleteIf you want to know the truth. Go straight to the source which is His Word the Bible! Hindi sa kapitbahay, magulang, priest, ka chat! You will not believe how good our God is - it's time for us to open the Bible!
ReplyDeleteLol.. girl do you even know how the bible was written? How the passages were chosen? Aral din ng history pag may time. Kung ang basis mo ng faith mo is a book, then you'd be surprised that might not be enough for your salvation
DeleteTAMA
Delete1:28 AM - So, you can read Hebrew, Aramic and Greek? If you can't, anyone can "translate" the Bible and claim it's the correct translation - and you won't know any better.
Delete2:59 Even in English, madaling baguhin ang nasa Bible. Yet, all those horrors people went through hindi inalis. Wag nating tingnan lahat as a conspiracy theory, kaya nga may scholars who do those translations eh.
Delete3:58 PM - Huh? Anong conspiracy theory mo dyan eh mga fundamentalists ang mahilig sa conspiracy theory - starting with Adam and Eve who fundamentalists believe actually existed. Add to that a total rejection of Darwin's theory of evolution.
DeleteHebrew, Aramic and Greek are the original languages the bible was written in with Greek the original language of the new testament. Anong sinasabi mong madaling baguhin?
@4:17 based in your response, you don't know and read the Bible. The words there were not written by just whoever, it is God 's Breath , it is alive! I'm guessing you are also not a believer if you think it's just a book. Therefore, I will not engage into further discussion with you and leave you and suggest that you should read "case for christ" book when you have the time since you seemed like a logical person. You will find tons of proof that Bible is not just a a book.
DeleteButi pa si Dahmer nasa heaven na ako when the time comes ekis na sa langit.
ReplyDeleteThat’s why i avoid religious people at all costs. Feeling righteous.
ReplyDeleteIts not the religion that can save u but your personal relationship with Him and by accepting Him as your Lord and Saviour.
ReplyDeleteIsa ka pa.🙄
DeleteUhm, no.
Delete12:15 Then what is? Good works? Are those enough? Kasi if tinimbang ka against the Ten Commandments sa Judgement Day, can you honestly say na wala kang nabali doon?
Delete3:56 holy spirit yan mars. Pag pumasok sa katawan mo.
DeleteGurl! Baka mauna ka pa! Santa santita!
ReplyDeleteNon believers pero.. sa mga comments and captions wagas maka OMG’s ut*t nyong gold.
ReplyDeleteOMG is just an expression. Pinagsasabi neto. Kanina ka pa paulit ulit sa comment mo lol
DeleteAng sabi ni pope,
ReplyDelete"just do good, we'll meet there (heaven).
Di rin
DeleteDaming santa santita at nagmamalinis dito ha HAHAHAH
ReplyDeleteTypical born again christian na nakapag bible study lang kala mo alam na alam na ang laman ng bible base sa sariling interpretation... tama nga ang twag sauo christian extremist!
ReplyDeleteCorrect! Daig pa 8+ years of education of priests kung maka-interpret ng Bible.
DeletePeople, there's a term called agnostic. Google it. Para madagdagan ang knowledge.
ReplyDeleteAng weird din ng defense niya. Parang inulit lang yung pinagpipilitan niya.
ReplyDeleteFeeling q meant Nia is Christianity is when you accept Jesus as your savior. Ibig sbhn once I accept mo SI Lord ay you gonna live by his grace wholeheartedly.hindi nmn ibig sbhn na nakapagawa ka Ng Mali TAs maniwala ka ke Lord e save ka na you need to repent and accept the consequences
ReplyDeletehot topic talaga pag religion at politics and usapan
ReplyDeleteGgood deeds will not lead you to heaven but the GRACE of God.
ReplyDeleteBasta ako curious sa kung ano man ang skeletons nito sa closet. Usually yung mga ganyang tao may ginawang sobrang sama lol
ReplyDeleteAminin nyo. Kinakabahan kayo! Alam nyo ba kung ano ang hell na sinasabi Bible? Baka di nyo kayanin.
ReplyDeleteTsaka na ako makikinig sa podcast nya pag alam nya na mga pinagsasabi nya also pag educated enough na sya, i dont think na may degree nga sya eh tas wala pa sa ayos pang influence ni ateng haystttt sis aral muna before u preach
ReplyDeleteWow! Ikaw educated enough?
DeleteKung ang mga nasa heaven pala ay mga taong ganito hard pass na lang. La pala iniba sa impiyerno.
ReplyDeleteGood luck be careful what you wish for
DeleteGo Joyce☺️Dito natin makikita na maraming nagbubulagbulagan pag inilatag na sa kanila ang katotohanan.
ReplyDeletenaku dami ko kilalang relihiyoso pero ang asal, meeehhhh!! lalo kapag about sa pera nawawala na ang pagkarelihiyoso lumalabas na din ang pagkaganid sa worldly things.
ReplyDeleteSyempre tao lang tayo lahat nagkakasala
DeleteBa't andaming galit? Turo yan ng religion nila. Yan paniniwala nila. So bakit kayo galit? Kung sa religion nyo or 'common sense' nyo ay di yan totoo, kailangan ba magalit sa paniniwala ng iba? If nonbeliever kayo, bakit galit din? Di ka naniniwala sa diyos pero naniniwala ka sa hell? Ganern?
ReplyDeleteGrabe ang persecution dito. Hahaha!
ReplyDeleteGo Joyce! Expected na yan. People will be against you.
Yung mga nagsasabing judgemental dyan, ikinaproud nyo ang name calling nyo? Bait yarn? Hindi nyo lang magets ang context kaya ganyan ang reaksyon nyo.
Affected kayo kasi deep inside you are afraid. Hindi siya judgemental, she is just true to her faith.
And sa mga nagsasabi na ayaw ng mga religious people dyan kasi self-righteous and judgemental, well, who's judgemental now? You keep on generalizing people from a group based on a certain few na fallible. False analysis agad e, generalization. Yes, there can be hypocrites walking around, playing church, but that truth does not eliminate the truth of the gospel. Sinners are everywhere but those who are really true to their faith will change! Ganon yun. Aral muna theology bago dada.
Former business partner nga ng kapatid ko, every weekend may pa prayer meeting sa tindahan nila and bible study na required pa sila mag attend kahit Catholic sya. And known sa kanila yung owner na super active sa church nila. Pero kaya naging former inalis na nag kapatid ko investment nya sknya kse yung kaltas ng Kuya binubulsa nya, madalas dinadahilan nya "nagastos" daw or "naipa sweldo muna" bsta parating may excuse. Never nya nakuha ng buo yung amount na asa contract nila.
ReplyDeleteDi ko po nilalahat ah, this is just based on our own experience na di porket maka Diyos ka at madasalin eh saksakan ka na ng bait.
True. Dalawa ang personal ko na kakilala na ganyan. At ganun din naman there are good religious people. I have friends na mabuting Christian at Katoliko.
DeleteWHY ARE YOU GUYS OFFENDED?? IF YOU TRULY DON’T BELIEVE IN HEAVEN AND HELL 🤣🤣🤣
ReplyDeleteNanghusga kasi sya agad. Very definite answer. Ang Diyos lang ang makakapagsabi kung maliligtas ka o hindi. It doesn’t matter kung ano interpretation mo sa bible, si God pa rin ang nakakaalam at may karapatan mang-husga. As Christians, we have to acknowledge that God is all-knowing and we are not. We shouldn’t be making these discriminatory statements at least in a public space.
ReplyDeleteTrue. I think it's more of the tone of what she says that implies that she knew more than we dont.
DeleteMay lusot sya sa argument kasi sinabi nya non-believers. Non-believers in God or non-believers in Hell? You can not believe in God but have a concept of heaven and hell.
I'm a non-practicing Catholic. I don't go to church to hear mass a long time ago because of the clergies who are so.political instead of just spreading the GOOD NEWS! But I hate these celebs who keep on preaching or "so Christians (kuno)" but doing otherwise. I mean, di ba bawal sa Christianity ang pre-marital sex pero kung makapag flex silà laging on a date na sila lang. And do you expect na wala silang gagawin na iba aside from making kwento na sila lang dalawa sa room nila? And every bf/gf ganun gawa? So hypocrites 🙄
ReplyDeleteAren't you also being judgemental? Hindi lahat ng Christians ganyan. Be careful calling others hypocrites instead of focusing on your own walk
DeleteI don't understand why people are so offended by what she said...she has a right to believe whatever she wants to believe and has a right to say it - it's called FREE SPEECH. People are always trying to find ways to be offended....not everyone thinks the same and she has a right to say what she believes is right in her heart.
ReplyDeleteSo the non believers as well. FREE SPEECH DIN kung they callout Joyce, podcast kaya yun
Delete1.38 They have different beliefs from what she believes so what exactly is the call out for aside from free speech?
DeletePansinin nyo daw kasi sya. Basta ang alam ko, di sukatan ng kabutihan ng tao ang regular na pagaimba o pagdadasal. Ung hindi paggawa ng masama sa kapwa at sarili ang batayan nun. Respect natin ung ideology ng iba kasi choice nila naman un.
ReplyDeleteUng ate ko minsan naiiinis nako sa kanya, sa kakabasa ng Bible kung mag-usap kmi mga magkakapatid sa group chat lagi na lng may mga ganyan.. Di maliligtas chu-chu. Dapat ganito, ganyan. Sinabi ko sa kanya, "ate naniniwala naman ako ke God pero diba dapat irespeto natin ung paniniwala ng bawat isa, ibat-ibang relihiyon, iba't ibang paniniwala. Ang mahalaga ay ung wala kang inaapakang ibang tao". ;-)
ReplyDeleteDo you realize that by telling her that, inapakan mo na din paniniwala niya? So paano na? Yan ang problema ng truth is inclusive. I hope you can consider evaluating why you believe in what you believe in. Truth is absolute, nag-iisa. Explore the ff aspects of your belief: origin, meaning, morality and destiny. I do hope too you can ask your Christian sister about it.
Delete7:55 pano po inaapakan eh nagrerequest lang siya ng respect ng other opinions. Di niya naman sinabi sa ate niya na wag maniwala kay Lord
Deletepersonally, my say is if you want to go to heaven; you should have a relationship with Jesus and the lord because they are the reason why you want to be in heaven. You should follow Jesus, be like Jesus.
ReplyDeletePara sa non believers naman, kanilang desisyon na yan. They dont believe exist because they are more on the earthly things. siguro they will change their mind , not because of near death experience but because of change of heart.
Why do people care of her opinion if you’re atheist and don’t believe in God? Shouldn’t you also not care if you go to heaven or hell?
ReplyDeleteYou can be a good person even if you don't believe in God.
ReplyDeleteBeliever ako pero I will not say this to non believers! Minsan yun tama sayo di yun ang tama sa iba. So be careful masyado na minsan self-righteous
ReplyDeleteSo kini-keep mo lang sayo 'yung good news? If we are a country encouraging free speech, you are free to talk about your beliefs. Christ ate with sinners and even talked with the Samaritan woman on the well (kaaway ng mga Israelites ang mga Samaritans, take note) Pero He didn't tolerate their sons. Believer ka ba talaga if you do not have enough love to tell people the truth, even if it may hurt?
DeleteAng sakin lang just be a good person and I think that is enough. Hindi lang religion ang basis if mapupunta ka ng Heaven or Hell.
ReplyDeleteKaso she is explaining the Christian doctrine on that. If totoo nga ang Diyos at may heaven and hell, then good works alone won't get you to heaven.
DeleteI just find bible yielding people too much, na para bang mas mahal sila ng Diyos kasi kabisado nila mga bible verse. I have relatives who live by the words of the bible, literally. Na tipong kumain ka ng baboy e sin na yun. As in yung ulam namin, pinick-out niya yung sahog na baboy hahaha. While I respect them, ang labo lang ng di ka kakain ng baboy kasi sin yun, pero pagchichismisan niyo ung kapitbahay hahaha. Sakin lang, God will love us all without discrimination so why should we let people decide if worthy tayo or hindi of "salvation"?
ReplyDeleteNo one should decide if you are saved or not however, it is written in the Bible kung ano 'yung magiging basis ng salvation, which Joyce Pring clearly explained. Hindi tayo ang masusunod sa Diyos. Also, there are people who read the bible pero mali naman pagkakaintindi so obviously, Mali 'yung hindi ka kakakain ng baboy kasi sina I sa Bible. Walang ganun dun
DeleteThere is a verse that says that:
DeleteLeviticus 11:7. 7 And the pig, though it has a split hoof completely divided, does not chew the cud; it is unclean for you.
At the end of the day, faith comes in all forms and all degrees. We cannot police people and tell them what you are doing will not bring you to heaven. Tao lang din tayo. Gawa lang din ng tao ung bible. Kung ano ang nasa puso, that’s what matters and the real measure of sincerity. Catholic school bred din ako but I came to realize that while faith can be taught, it is up to us kung paano iaapply. Kung conservative ang standards ng christianity and by the book, even yang CCF di mageexist.
I live in a Buddhist country, but they are so open and welcoming to other religions. Hardly in years I grew up here that I heard them putting down other religions or saying they are the only ones who can enter heaven. Oth, there are many Christians here who are disrespect to the Buddhists, and many of them are Filipinos!
ReplyDeleteGuys, it's podcast. You have a choice not to listen. It's her faith/belief. If you do not believe in what she said, then shrug it off. Why are you so affected? It's not as if, she's forcing you to believer her. If you want to confirm what she said, read the Bible. It's all there. Read it with the intention of finding the truth.
ReplyDeletesabi nila ang hell ay puntahan ng mga tao ayaw kay God. kasi diba if kunwari sinner ka tapos kasama mo mababait na tao, grabe ung shame nun. eh lalo pa if kasama mo si God na holy of holy, mas lalong parusa un if kasama mo sya tapos ayaw mo maniwala sa kanya. if we believe in God daw, si Jesus na ung nagcover ng sins natin. if di tayo believer, walang magccover ng own sins natin.
ReplyDeletewala din “good” person sabi ni Jesus, lahat kasi sinner kahit baby pa lang diba may original sin na. Si Lord lang ang good, ang standard ng good. kahit bayaran natin ang sins natin ng good work, it will never be enough.
cguro magkakaalaman na lang talaga pag end of life na
Agree. For we all sin and fall short of the glory of God. Whatever a person believes in, that’s the standard God will use to judge you. Sadly, ALL fall short regardless of what standard/belief except for one - Jesus.
Deletehindi naman nya sinabi sumali tayo sa ccf, or kung san sya nagsservice, so hindi naman cult ung ginagawa nila kasi you are free to choose kung san ka magchurch or kung ano belief mo. saka nga if non believer, bakit affected eh di nga believer.
ReplyDeleteAs a Pinoy who was brought up Catholic, may paniniwala talaga tayong may hell and heaven. But as I grow older and hindi nman mayaman, ang hirap at unfair ng buhay. Hindi rin nman nakakatulong ang paniniwala. Kaya bahala na kayo what you believe in life pero ang self righteous nitong girl. 😂
ReplyDeleteRepeating what was written is self-righteousness nowadays? Bakit parang paurong ang society natin?
DeleteReligion isn’t about “ You CANT do that because it’s against my religion instead of I CANT do that because it’s against my religion.” You can’t please everybody and not all that happened to you paniniwalaan ng tao. Respect their opinions so they would respect yours. Mga tao kasi ginagawang kumplikado lahat basta pagdedebatehan lang. Religion doesn’t define us a mas a person, we have different circumstances so what’s works for you , works for you. Alam mo naman ang mga Netizens makapag argue lang.
DeleteAs a nonbeliever, ang wish ko ay hindi na patulan to. Yung interview kasi ay galing dun sa vlog ng ex ni Alodia na sumisikat lang ang content pag may drama. Wag nating pagbigyan mga misis! Charot
ReplyDeleteI dont get the hate. If you dont believe in what she said about her faith journey, then don’t. I dont see anything wrong in what she said. I belong to a religion different from hers but I don’t see anything wrong with her freedom to speak in what she believed in.
ReplyDeleteThis!! Imagine being a non-believer of religion but afraid of getting in hell. Hahaha.
DeleteNon believers just can’t stand the self righteousness and smugness she exhibits. Hell doesn’t exist, nothing to be afraid of.
DeleteI'm a non-believer so I couldn't care less. I believe that when we die, we just die. No soul going to heaven, or hell. Our life stops here in this world. Rather believing in God, I believe in people. I try my best to do good to others not because this is what the bible says but because it's just the right thing to do.
ReplyDeletetama. respect each other's belief na lang para may kapayapaan. if iba ang paniniwala ng iba respetohin pa din at wag ijudge.
Delete“Amen” to that!
DeleteThe road is narrow. In the end, we will know the truth, sino nagsasabi ng totoo.
ReplyDeleteThe Gospel is offensive naman talaga to non-believers. Jesus was persecuted and He warned His followers that they will be persecuted as well, so okay lang yan. May reward yan sa heaven.
ReplyDeleteI'm agnostic, raised Catholic, but not practicing. Wala ako nakitang mali sa sinabi nya. Beliefs nya yan eh. Ako I don't have the same views, same as I don't have the same views as many other religions. Kanya kanyang paniniwala. Religion and faith is very subjective. To each their own.
ReplyDeleteIt's because of this baluktot na mentality which is why the Philippines is the way it is. Walang integrity at honesty ang mga tao. Yes, mangungurakot ako today pero i will ask forgiveness later, also i'm a believer, maliligtas ako. Seriously? No. I have friends who believe in a different God, no not Jesus,and i believe in my heart that they will be saved based on their actions, not their God. There are agnostics who found charities ans literally devote their life serving others. What makes you think your belief alone is enough to save you? You will be judged same as them. And I can almost guarantuee that none of you guys here 100% sure na sa heaven sila mapupunta. If you are, rethink your religion.
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