Hay naku designer bakit ka naman magbibigay ng estimate na half the price ng isisingil mo? Para ba magdecide na ikaw ang kukunin? Dapat transparent ka sa presyo mo. Chaka naman design mo sa totoo lang.
Baka kasi maganda reputation ng team na yun having worked with previous queens from Cebu. Kaya yun pinili nya. Di lang natin alam kung ano talaga ang totoong nagcause ng falling out.
@11:18 may tinatawag kasi na accredited partners ang MUPH sa mga municipality/city. So kung sasali ka to represent your place, dun sa accredited partner ka dapat makipag transact.
Oo naman make up pa lang nila e magastos na how much more pa mga outfits shoes, may nah sponsor sa mga yan, parang nag invest pag nanalo saka babawiin pag waley, waley talaga
It could be...provicial pageants p lng magastos na...lalo na yan national pageantsvtas nauso pa yang online challenges kemerut na dapat hd ang mga kuha nila.
Nope. You pay or find sponsors. Kaya I feel sorry for those na binubully ng mga madlang tao kasi these girls sacrifice a lot to be there. Oras, effort, resources.
11:28pm These girls and their families put a lot in their pageant runs and kasama na ang criticism sa pagsali. Pero di pa rin tama ang i bully sila. What a mean view on these girls and pageantry that you have. Do the world a favor and don't procreate.
Kaya nga i thought kaya nga nag camp ka para may support. Otherwise mag independent n lng. Kung nasa camp dapat minimal gastos n lng for candidates una binayaran nila pagpapatrain in return dapat ang camp maghanap ng sponsors for them.
Meaning she has worked with professionals and can afford to pay a gown. Ang klaro na oh! Girl, minsan lawakan din ang isip hindi yung inggit agad ang mangingibabaw.
Ang point eh hindi naman siya shunga lang na pinulot kung saan, na hindi alam how the modeling and pageant business works. She knows how real pros act and what the industry standards are.
Namis interpret mo naman point ni Lapu Lapu. Ang ibig nyang sabihin dyan ay tumira siya sa ibat ibang lugar tas dito lang siya nagkaproblem regarding team.
I dont see anything wrong with her statement dhil un nman ang totoo and she just want to make sure her point is so pointy so that it will get through to people. Lalo n s designer. Ang totoong humble bragging ay ung si "im so new york" and "the govt cant afford me" eh un nman pala ay peke rin ang educational achievement.
Kakatapos pa lang naman ng pageant. Pwede namang pag usapan . Wag yung ipahiya yung representative sa mundo. Dapat nga dept of tourism ng lapu2x city yung mag shoulder ng payment o d kaya ipina renta na lang . Ano naman ang gagawin ng candidate nyan sa costume after ng pageant. Plus , if the designer did a great job , promotion na rin yun ng business nya .
This! Gets ko na need bayadan ang designers pero grabe wala man lang any means of support from the city? Tapos pag nanalo ibabandera ng city na local candidate nila ang winner kahit wala naman silang ambag.
Personal na laban ng candidaye yan king di sila inendorse ng city. The candidate should have asked assistance and support kung di nila kaya pero nde responsibility ng Cituy or lugar na nirerepresent nila unless personally tinap sila para mapromote ang lugar then bubudgetan yan ng lugar nila.
That national costume is not worth more than 20k, yung mga tassel ng kurtina at payong plus fabric as cape — there wasnt much in there, i think im on the side of the mom here.
Mali 'yung designer pero 'yung thinking na materials lang babayaran mo is how creatives in our country get taken advantage of. You are also paying for the experience and expertise of the designer.
Curious ako which side is telling the truth..i work in events and although we give an estimate prize hindi nmn sya dapat malayo sa binigay mong estimate. Otherwise you have to provide another quote. Just my two cents..abangan ang susunod na sagutan.
I don't think they're lying naman. Siguro miscommunication lang and tbh medyo shunga din naman kasi yung costume designer. Bakit sobrang baba ng estimate? This is not his first time making a costume, he should be able to provide a more accurate quote. Hindi mo din naman masisi yung kandidata if ma pu put off siya na biglang dumoble presyo. Unfair din yung nanay sa mga paratang. Axel is well respected in the industry. He made the costume of both MUPH 2021 AND MWPH 2021 which they wore on the international stage .
Ibig sabihin matino comprehension skills nya at she studies/does her homework, so imposibleng hindi lang nya nagets yung terms of the agreement she entered. Alam nya kung ano pinagusapan, at alam nya kung binabago at minamali na yung usapan kasi may utak naman sya. Yun yung point nya
Ngee, an estimate means a ballpark figure, and a ballpark figure is never expected to turn out to be just half of the final price. If your estimate is way off to the point na nagdouble na yung price, anong klase kang designer? Parang nanghuhula lang? Haha. Kalurks!
Under estimate ang 20k for a national costume na detailed at papasa sa ganyang big pageant. They should have placed a more accurate price and consult the client na if you use this kind of material and make it like this it will cost more. So kung ayaw nila tumaas ang price stick to the lower price and so they supplier wont be blamed for. As usual contracts can be tricky, if you wont abide by it the supplier have the right to be protected. Mahal po talaga mag pageant and emotionally stressful. If clients wants changes in the contract dont sign it and if you want to have amendments or changes do it before signing it. Supplier should only give the finish product when fully paid para hindi extorting money ang mangyayari after delivery unless with written agreement
Mali yung designer and todo defend pa sya! Estimate should at least be close to the actual figure a margin of 5-10% is expected. Pero 100% higher than estimate?? That’s not an estimate just send a new quote! As an experienced designer they should know this.cost estimate is a factor in decision making if you get a supplier or not. So they deliberately quoted a much much lower estimate to get the job then come singilan the actual receipt is x2? That’s fraud.
Agreed 9:01. That's fraud if you make a client believe na 20k lang then naging 40k without informing her about price updates. Siguro dapat nung lumagpas na sa 25k nagsabi na sya kay client na mahal na masyado from the original quote.
Ang panget din nman ng gawa nyang costume, halos recycled ideas and elemenys from his previous design pero panget ang kinalabasan. Tas tama nman nagbigay sya ng qoutation dapat malinaw na nde sya lumagpas dun or kung lumagpas man bahagya lng. Nakikinabang din nman sila sa promotion ng kanilang brand dahil nakalahay namr ng designer kahit bayad nman pala at nde xdeal ang usapan...ginawang business n talaga ang pageants.
Kaya mas ok na yung polisiya ni Madam Araneta sa BB na may botique na hiraman ang mga kandidata ng isusuot. Hindi ganyan na may pa-isponsor pa sa MUPH. Napapalaki gastos ng kandidata. Why can't they be just simple in the nomination process?
Agree if I don’t have the X factor I won’t spend a single coin and join pageants. Not having a sponsor is already a glaring sign that nobody believes in the candidate. For sure if she got what it takes, sponsors will line up to cover her expenses #harshbuttrue
Pageantry was always a dirty business. Far beyond that. Hello. Filthy business. It's not big in many countries, thank God. But massive in the Philippines.
Sino kaya ang nagsasabi ng totoo?
ReplyDeleteSo why didn't she choose a better team then to manage her MUP journey?
DeleteHay naku designer bakit ka naman magbibigay ng estimate na half the price ng isisingil mo? Para ba magdecide na ikaw ang kukunin? Dapat transparent ka sa presyo mo. Chaka naman design mo sa totoo lang.
DeleteBaka kasi maganda reputation ng team na yun having worked with previous queens from Cebu. Kaya yun pinili nya. Di lang natin alam kung ano talaga ang totoong nagcause ng falling out.
Delete@11:18 may tinatawag kasi na accredited partners ang MUPH sa mga municipality/city. So kung sasali ka to represent your place, dun sa accredited partner ka dapat makipag transact.
DeletePakabaduy naman ng design
Deletenaku ang mahal pa lang sumali ng pageant!!
ReplyDeleteOo naman make up pa lang nila e magastos na how much more pa mga outfits shoes, may nah sponsor sa mga yan, parang nag invest pag nanalo saka babawiin pag waley, waley talaga
DeleteKaya hanggang barangay levels lang ako bakz.
DeleteThey spent half a million! Wooow!!
ReplyDeleteTotoo yan bakz lalo pag wala kang mahanap ng sponsor. Daily wardrobe pa lang sa rehearsals need pabongga na para sa image mo.
DeleteIt could be...provicial pageants p lng magastos na...lalo na yan national pageantsvtas nauso pa yang online challenges kemerut na dapat hd ang mga kuha nila.
DeleteHonestly thought provided lahat sa contestant by the camp they’re in. Hindi pala.
ReplyDeleteNope. You pay or find sponsors. Kaya I feel sorry for those na binubully ng mga madlang tao kasi these girls sacrifice a lot to be there. Oras, effort, resources.
Delete10:40 feel sorry kyeme ka dyan eh ginusto nilang sumali dyan wala naman nagpwersa sa kanila.
DeleteHindi po, unless mayaman ang candidate, parang investment sila kung manalo may ROI
DeleteYes kaya sa mga nagsasabing walang kwenta ang pageants, think twice. Kabuhayan ng creatives yan.
Delete11:28pm These girls and their families put a lot in their pageant runs and kasama na ang criticism sa pagsali. Pero di pa rin tama ang i bully sila. What a mean view on these girls and pageantry that you have. Do the world a favor and don't procreate.
DeleteKaya nga i thought kaya nga nag camp ka para may support. Otherwise mag independent n lng. Kung nasa camp dapat minimal gastos n lng for candidates una binayaran nila pagpapatrain in return dapat ang camp maghanap ng sponsors for them.
DeleteIve lived in LA,NY, London, keme... Humble bragging ba?
ReplyDeleteJust stating FACTS
DeleteDagdag reputation din kasi yan
Meaning she has worked with professionals and can afford to pay a gown. Ang klaro na oh! Girl, minsan lawakan din ang isip hindi yung inggit agad ang mangingibabaw.
Delete10:13 ang linaw ng gusto niyang ipahiwatig. Clouded lang masyado pang-unawa mo.
Deleteshe needs to mention that to support her claim na hindi siya mandurugas and they have the money to pay!
DeleteAng point eh hindi naman siya shunga lang na pinulot kung saan, na hindi alam how the modeling and pageant business works. She knows how real pros act and what the industry standards are.
DeleteNamis interpret mo naman point ni Lapu Lapu. Ang ibig nyang sabihin dyan ay tumira siya sa ibat ibang lugar tas dito lang siya nagkaproblem regarding team.
DeleteI dont see anything wrong with her statement dhil un nman ang totoo and she just want to make sure her point is so pointy so that it will get through to people. Lalo n s designer. Ang totoong humble bragging ay ung si "im so new york" and "the govt cant afford me" eh un nman pala ay peke rin ang educational achievement.
DeleteHahahaha 12:55PM natawa ako sa I'm so new york mo. Tumpak!
DeleteGanito talaga magreact yung mga wala masyadong achievements o average joe lang. Nayayabangan agad lol
DeleteWow. Half a millon pesos for pageant dreams. Wow.
ReplyDeleteMababa pa nga yan e
Deletei thought ang city ang gagastos ng lahat para sa kandidata nila, lalo na ung mga hopefuls na ndi frm rich families? Ang gastos din pala
ReplyDeleteKakatapos pa lang naman ng pageant. Pwede namang pag usapan . Wag yung ipahiya yung representative sa mundo. Dapat nga dept of tourism ng lapu2x city yung mag shoulder ng payment o d kaya ipina renta na lang . Ano naman ang gagawin ng candidate nyan sa costume after ng pageant. Plus , if the designer did a great job , promotion na rin yun ng business nya .
ReplyDeleteThis! Gets ko na need bayadan ang designers pero grabe wala man lang any means of support from the city? Tapos pag nanalo ibabandera ng city na local candidate nila ang winner kahit wala naman silang ambag.
DeleteAkala ko shoulder ng mga politican sa province nila ang magproprovide ng expenses?
DeletePersonal na laban ng candidaye yan king di sila inendorse ng city. The candidate should have asked assistance and support kung di nila kaya pero nde responsibility ng Cituy or lugar na nirerepresent nila unless personally tinap sila para mapromote ang lugar then bubudgetan yan ng lugar nila.
DeleteBut that’s really 100% higher than estimate though: P20,000 to P40,000?
ReplyDeleteAng cost estimate is good as contract. Mali yun designer
Deletefor sure pag yan nanalong best in national costume o nagka place man lang sa pageant, walang ganyang emerut.
ReplyDeleteoh well money talks
ReplyDeleteThat national costume is not worth more than 20k, yung mga tassel ng kurtina at payong plus fabric as cape — there wasnt much in there, i think im on the side of the mom here.
ReplyDeleteMali 'yung designer pero 'yung thinking na materials lang babayaran mo is how creatives in our country get taken advantage of. You are also paying for the experience and expertise of the designer.
DeleteParang ang mura nga masyado ng 20k. Imagine ung mga bridal gowns kung magkano ung starting. Ung iba nga sobrang simple lang 45k minimum
DeleteAng chaka nung outfit sa totoo lang but that's not the point haha
ReplyDeleteCurious ako which side is telling the truth..i work in events and although we give an estimate prize hindi nmn sya dapat malayo sa binigay mong estimate. Otherwise you have to
ReplyDeleteprovide another quote. Just my two cents..abangan ang susunod na sagutan.
I don't think they're lying naman. Siguro miscommunication lang and tbh medyo shunga din naman kasi yung costume designer. Bakit sobrang baba ng estimate? This is not his first time making a costume, he should be able to provide a more accurate quote. Hindi mo din naman masisi yung kandidata if ma pu put off siya na biglang dumoble presyo. Unfair din yung nanay sa mga paratang. Axel is well respected in the industry. He made the costume of both MUPH 2021 AND MWPH 2021 which they wore on the international stage .
DeleteLesson for the girls: sign a contract before makipag commit sa mga creatives, ilatag lahat ng details. consult a lawyer. malaking pera yan.
ReplyDeleteAnong connect ng pag speak mo ng 4 languages and straight A student mo sa pag respect mo sa professionals?? Humble bragging??
ReplyDeleteTih, that is to support her claim na hindi sya mandurugas. Jusko, mag-aral ka muna bago ka maging Marites. Kakaloka!
DeleteIbig sabihin matino comprehension skills nya at she studies/does her homework, so imposibleng hindi lang nya nagets yung terms of the agreement she entered. Alam nya kung ano pinagusapan, at alam nya kung binabago at minamali na yung usapan kasi may utak naman sya. Yun yung point nya
Deleteomg sis haha d mo gets? its to add credibility, and to think she is all those, it doesn't make sense for her not to pay. hahah
Deleteisa ka pang hindi marunong umintindi! dyeske andaming low compre sa pinas
DeleteComprehension
DeleteNgee, an estimate means a ballpark figure, and a ballpark figure is never expected to turn out to be just half of the final price. If your estimate is way off to the point na nagdouble na yung price, anong klase kang designer? Parang nanghuhula lang? Haha. Kalurks!
ReplyDeleteTrue kaya di mo din masisi na nag duda yung tao.
DeleteWhat a horrible costume.
ReplyDeleteAng gastos. Tapos di man lang nakapasok sa Top 16v💀
ReplyDeleteGanyan ang buhay beauty queen baks. Yung mga di masyadong kilala struggle to find sponsors.
DeleteI think mali ang designer here kasi ang laki ng hiningi nya kumpara sa estimated budget. Parang minagic nalang bigla.
ReplyDeleteBaka dinoble nya since di na sya kukunin ulit at hindi rin mapo-promote dahil natalo.
DeleteUnder estimate ang 20k for a national costume na detailed at papasa sa ganyang big pageant. They should have placed a more accurate price and consult the client na if you use this kind of material and make it like this it will cost more. So kung ayaw nila tumaas ang price stick to the lower price and so they supplier wont be blamed for. As usual contracts can be tricky, if you wont abide by it the supplier have the right to be protected. Mahal po talaga mag pageant and emotionally stressful. If clients wants changes in the contract dont sign it and if you want to have amendments or changes do it before signing it. Supplier should only give the finish product when fully paid para hindi extorting money ang mangyayari after delivery unless with written agreement
ReplyDeleteI think mali ang designer. The actual price is twice ng estimate? That doesn’t seem right. Acceptable pa kung 5-10% ang variance sa estimate.
ReplyDeleteAng gastos pala sumali sa mga National Pageants. Well, yung iba afford nila lalo na yung mga mayayaman o artista.
ReplyDeleteMali yung designer and todo defend pa sya! Estimate should at least be close to the actual figure a margin of 5-10% is expected. Pero 100% higher than estimate?? That’s not an estimate just send a new quote! As an experienced designer they should know this.cost estimate is a factor in decision making if you get a supplier or not. So they deliberately quoted a much much lower estimate to get the job then come singilan the actual receipt is x2? That’s fraud.
ReplyDeleteAgreed 9:01. That's fraud if you make a client believe na 20k lang then naging 40k without informing her about price updates. Siguro dapat nung lumagpas na sa 25k nagsabi na sya kay client na mahal na masyado from the original quote.
DeleteI agree. 100%
Deletepati breakdown sana naka indicate.
ReplyDeleteLuh, ang panget naman ng costume
ReplyDeleteHer costume reminds me of MJ’s
ReplyDeleteTruth...icocomment ko nga sana na evolution of mj's national costume yan dun yt video ng empire.
Deletepageantry is really for entertainment and not women empowerment
ReplyDeleteAng panget din nman ng gawa nyang costume, halos recycled ideas and elemenys from his previous design pero panget ang kinalabasan. Tas tama nman nagbigay sya ng qoutation dapat malinaw na nde sya lumagpas dun or kung lumagpas man bahagya lng. Nakikinabang din nman sila sa promotion ng kanilang brand dahil nakalahay namr ng designer kahit bayad nman pala at nde xdeal ang usapan...ginawang business n talaga ang pageants.
ReplyDeleteAng mahal, di naman maganda sa true lang.
ReplyDeleteEvery year ata may issue ang mga candidates sa MUP?
ReplyDeletedi marunong mag estimate sis
ReplyDeleteKaya mas ok na yung polisiya ni Madam Araneta sa BB na may botique na hiraman ang mga kandidata ng isusuot. Hindi ganyan na may pa-isponsor pa sa MUPH. Napapalaki gastos ng kandidata. Why can't they be just simple in the nomination process?
ReplyDeleteParang ang baduy ang design. Hindi rin naman super standout itong si girl kaya di rin angat ang performance nia at nalaglag agad.
ReplyDeleteHindi naman yan ang point. Yung pera need to be accounted.
DeleteAgree if I don’t have the X factor I won’t spend a single coin and join pageants. Not having a sponsor is already a glaring sign that nobody believes in the candidate. For sure if she got what it takes, sponsors will line up to cover her expenses #harshbuttrue
DeletePageantry was always a dirty business. Far beyond that. Hello. Filthy business. It's not big in many countries, thank God. But massive in the Philippines.
ReplyDeleteAng problema kasi dapat naka itemized lahat, lesson yan kapag tatanggap ka ng pera make sure May backup documents.
ReplyDeleteDi yata alam ni designer ang ibig sabihin ng "estimate". And sorry, di talaga maganda yung natcos na ginawa nya, yung footwear lang nagustuhan ko😅
ReplyDelete