Question. Disclaimer: i dont mean to harm anyone with this. Just curious.
Anong opinion nyo sa mga ‘influencers’ na nag aannounce ng pregnancy out of wedlock? Since they are ‘influencers’ does that mean they are also promoting pre-marital sex considering madami silang fans o audience sa kahit anong edad?
Of course not 7:03. Nang mag boom ang social media, nag boom din ang mga influencers. Nasa tao pa rin yan eh, kung tutularan mo or ina-idolize mo ang isang influencer.
Different people have different views on this. Some influencers do it for money or views, while some do it because they just simply want to share the good news to their fans. Whatever their reasons are, no one has the right to judge them. After all, weddings here on earth made by humans does not guarantee everlasting love. There are married couples who did not last, whereas some couples didn't even get married but they are still together until now. Wag masyadong problemahin ang mga bagay bagay, magpost man sila ng mga ganyang videos, di major sin yan. Babies are blessings. Besides, my utak naman mga tao. Kahit buntis idolo mo, di ibig sabihin ganun din gagawin mo.
I dont think that they are promoting naman. Besides, Win is an adult.At wag na tayong maglokohan. A lot of people na are having sex kahit di kasal. Don't get me wrong, hindi porket maraming gumagawa go na agad. Ang akin lang it's their choice naman kung gusto nila gawin yun. If nabuntis or nagkaroon ng sakit bc of sex dapat alam din dapat nila ang consequences kasi they made a choice to do it. Hindi na ito kasalanan ng influencers also kasi yung viewers pa rin naman magdedecide for themselves. Kaya sa mga kabataan, dapat alam nila at sure sila bago nila isuko ang bataan.
Tired of hearing excuses like “baby is a blessing”… “mag-2022 na”… may sinabi bang hindi blessing ang babies? I’m a mom, I know they are. At ano naman ang kinalaman ng year sa values nang isang tao? Dahil mag-2022 na, tama na yung dating mali? Yeah, people have different views, but don’t confuse opinions to what is right and wrong.
1:16 yes, may kinalaman ang year sa "values" because ang values naman (in this case) ay imposed lang by social and cultural norms. Opinyon mo lang din yan, hindi yan necessarily tama because we live in a patriarchal and predominantly catholic country where people demonize women who get married out of wedlock. almost 2022 na, kung stuck ka pa rin sa ganyang thinking, ibig sabihin hindi ka progresibo sa buhay. Hindi yan mali as long as consensual naman ang nangyari. Hindi rin naman ikaw ang magbubuntis o magpapaaral sa anak nila so anong mali doon? Kahit "influencers" o "celebrities" sila, hindi sila ang magulang ng audience/public kaya wag i-asa sa kanila ang paggabay sa mga bata.
Influencers are are not promoting pre-marital sex unless they explicitly express it on their social media platforms. You might be confused with the term promoting. For sure they don't encourage it but what works for them may work for other people or their experiences can be warnings or there's a lesson to be learned from their personal matters. Also, there's really nothing with pre-marital sex as long as both parties involved are aware, consented and responsible for the outcome of their actions. You don't feed them so let them live their lives.
This is what I always tell my kids - if your friends did something, it may be right or wrong, that doesn't mean you have to follow them just because they're your friends. You have a brain, use it.
As a woman,dinidiscourage ko talaga sa mga bagets kong pamangkin na idolohin yang mga artista or "influencers" na pra sakin hindi good role model like nakikipaglibe in sa mga jowa nilang "influencers" din kuno at nabubuntis out of wedlock..kahit sabihin nyo pang makaluma paniniwala ko, ayaw kong enormalize ito sa mga kabataan..since finafollow nla at iniidolo nla, maaring sundin din nla ito since ginawa nga ng idol nla...i know a baby is a blessing pro may tamang panahon pra sa lahat..minsan kasi ginagawa nlng nla yan pra sumabay sa uso at pra masabing cool...kawawa din kasi ang bata sa huli..
Ang daming closed minded dito :) Please, it's 2022 na! :) This is the time for girl's empowerment :) My body my choice :) Kung ayaw nyo, huwag nyong pilitin yung iba ;) :) :D
Doing what is right is different from doing what is popular. For starters, mas mahirap siya.
Because of herd mentality, all the more that we need to have honest conversations with our children.
Oo, 2022 na, but look! Despite all that women empowerment, di pa rin marunong bumili ng condom/contraceptives ang mga tao, naglipana ang pandemic babies, bow! Tapos sasabi sabi ng baby is a blessing, consenting adults kyeme ang mga tao.
Question din, anong mali sa premarital s** between consenting adults? The way she did the vid naman is in good taste, not promoting anything but more on sharing a good life update so I see nothing wrong. Pero syempre depende sa delivery yan ng influencer. Cringey din naman for me when an influencer openly talks abt s** as if it's just an activity like how Angelica said it dun sa podcast. Kasi tmi, parang you're sharing your privates in public. But I don't see anything wrong with the idea na they did engage into it. Basta ba di sila pinilit at gusto nila ginagawa nila coz let's be real, ilan ba dito na 20 to 30+++ na ang still saving themselves sa wedding night? If you are one of them good for you, if you're not go girl pa din. Our body, our choice. Pero to answer the Q, I don't see anything wrong sa announcements ng pregnancy. The subject kasi is may paparating na baby and not na "uy we did it kaya may nabuo".
7:03 although mas maganda talaga sana magka anak within the marriage eh okay na din sa akin na pinanindigan yung baby at pinapakita nila na happy sila to have a baby n that babies are blessings at magiging responsable silang magulang. Nowadays, na rampant abortion bilib pa din ako sa mga babae na kahit hindi kasal o minsan bata ngkaanak eh mas pinipili nila ang buhayin ang bata, panindigan ito, at ipakita na masaya sila dahil blessing ito. So for me, good influence pa din sa mga iba na maaaring same ng pinagdadaanan.
Totally agreed 1:16. Bec if you have intact values kahit saang lupalop pa ng mundo at kahit anong oras o taon pa yan, andun pa rin. Di apektado ng kung ano mang factor.
Honestly people will have sex if they want to have sex. It’s a personal preference and not everyone is religious and has the same values. This is why sex education should be taught in schools. You can of course teach students how abstinence is the best form of prevention and you can share your own personal views and values about sex but it’s important to also provide people with the tools they need.
1:16 yung kasal ng mga katoliko peke naman yan. Di porket kinasal sa simbahan ay matibay na. Binayaran mo nga kasal mo. Sa bible, walang bayad ang kasal. Civil wedding is more legit and valid. Mali din yung paniniwala mo na pag nabuntis outside marriage ay mali na, masyado ka namang narrow minded pag ganun. May mga kasado nga pero pabaya namang magulang. Although i am not compleltely against marriage, Win's case is not a major sin. She shouldnt be judged because I don't think she is promoting sex before marriage. Ang sama naman ng isip ng mga taonf mag iisip ng ganun. Btw, I am not her fan.
I think it is not so much the premarital sex but being responsible about it. Granted, they might have taken precaution pero nabuo pa rin, I agree with 1:16 na people tend to interpret lines like “baby is a blessing” the wrong way. I know Wynwyn is a bright woman so I am thinking her point is to make sure the baby feels loved and cared for, and not be viewed as a mistake. Pero ayun nga, the fact remains that it might have been unplanned. (Speaking in general na ito). Going back to the topic of influencers ni OP, I agree with your sentiment, pero with the changing times nga, it might be best to ask about the need to promote responsible, safe sex and not advocating avoiding premarital sex.
Bottom line is that, more than being a blessing, the baby is also a responsibility. Sabi nga nila, the question is not whether you want to have a baby, but the whether you want—and are ready—to be responsible for a human being.
Right is right and wrong is wrong. It doesnt matter if you were born today or 100 years ago. Values dont change. Only excuses and justifications are added.
To 1:45, Ang values ng tao nasa tao yan. Wala yan sa kung anong taon. What you are saying is, mag adjust ang values ng tao dahil 2022 na? Then that's not called values at all. Doesn't mean na one would want to stick with her values, eh hindi na progressive. I ask you, you think this socmed era is doing good for the humanity especially young generations? Dito na lang sa pinas, do you really think mas mas okay ang kabataan ngayon kumpara sa kabataan noon nung wala pang socmed? Not everything up to date is progressive. Yung pag judge sa tao yun ang mali. And not everything consensual falls under category of being right too. How if both minors doing it already, consensual, so does that make it right? - Not 1:16
2:52 - what is wrong with being pregnant out of wedlock??? wyn is an adult, yung partner nya adult, they are financially stable…. so what is the problem?
1.45 id you’re a catholic or christian you should read your bible agan. San nakalagay dun na may expiration ang command ni Lord? Na pagdating ng 2021 e pwede ng mag pre marital sex? Or other laws for that matter. Lord’s teaching is the same yesterday today and tomorrow. Walang expiration date yan
My daughter is 7 yrs old and nag tanong sya sa akin kung pag may bf na sya ay may bahay na rin sila together. Yun kasi yung nakikita nya minsan sa ibang nasa youtube pero kids content like roblox. So dapat talaga pinipili natin ponapanood ng mga anak natin.
1:16 I'm a mom and I totally agree with you! Kahit 2022 or 2030 na, magagalit and madidisappoint ako kung mabubuntis yung daughter ko out of wedlock. I'd still prefer for her to get married at the right age first before getting pregnant. You may all say na outdated ang thinking namin pero this is our way of protecting the future of our children. Madaming babae ang natigil sa pag reach ng life goals nila because of unplanned pregnancy; I just don't want that to happen to my daughter.
1:16 totally agree with you!! Walang expiration date ang pag instill ng proper values sa kabataan kahit anong year na lalo na unplanned pregnancy will definitely change their lives and not everyone is financially capable. I always tell my daughter na magaral muna before boyfriend kasi mas sure ang future mo with a diploma; That's my way of protecting my daughter na she'll reach her dreams first before having the responsibility of taking care of a child. Madaming babae na hindi nagawa yung mga gusto nilang gawin dahil sa unplanned pregnancy. I'd still prefer for her to get married at a proper age before getting pregnant. Tignan niyo nalang sila Nikki Gil and Iya Villania, sila dapat ang tularan ng mga bata ngayon!
8:02, are you also 1:45? Anyway, wow... sumakit dibdib ko sa sinabi mong peke ang kasal sa simbahan. You've crossed the line. It is about faith Iha. Kung wala ka nun, matuto ka man lang igalang ang mga bagay na wala sa paniniwala mo. I hope you have a genuine happy life.
Kudos to 7:03 nagkaroon tayo ng magandang discussion. Hehe!
Im not condoning nor condemning influencers na nag aannounce ng pregnancy out of wedlock. But i will see to it na my kids will not copy other people. I will instill to them the values that my parents/grandparents taught me.
Wow.. san nanggaling yung unplanned pregnancy? Just because they're not married that doesn't mean they weren't planning to have a baby. Bakit andami judgmental dito? Sana ganyan din values nyo sa extra-judicial killings ha.
9:06 Kung totoo ang sinasabi mo na hindi nag babago ang values even 100 years ago...
Alam mo bang pinapatay ang mga bakla by stoning? Alam mo yun eye for an eye? (edi sana ang dami nang bulag ngayon?) Alam mo bang pinapatay ang mga hindi nakapag simba ng holy sabath day?
According to the Bible, breaking the Sabbath or not observing the day of the Lord was an offence punishable by death (Exodus Ch. 31 v15).
SO NGAYON... GUSTO MO BANG IMPLEMENT NATEN ANG MGA VALUES NUON SA PRESENT TIMES
Pls lang, binigyan ka ng utak. Gamitin mo.
BTW,
WALA SA 10 COMMANDMENTS NA BAWAL ANG PRE-MARITAL-SEX
10:02 teh, anong cringey sa comment? By social norms, I don't mean social media but the society. Makasabi ka pa diyan ng cringey e parang ikaw naman 'tong 'di nag-iisip. Ulitin ko lang ha, imposed by SOCIAL AND CULTURAL NORMS. Premarital sex happens all the time anywhere. Pre-Spanish era, mas open sa sexuality mga Filipinas until dumating ang Spaniards at nag-impose ang friars ng religious views nila on women at "tinuruan" silang mahiya at sinabing mali 'yong sariling kultura nila. Almost 2022 na and women are trying to break free from these oppressive and misogynistic views that go way back Spanish colonial era pa. Ngayon, between the two of us, sa tingin ko ikaw ang cringey because you neither know history nor its implication on today's norms.
Lol premarital sex never had to be promoted though, sex has always been attractive by itself. Kaya nga tayong mga human species came up with so many ways to prevent people from having sex before naimbento ang contraception, such as instilling fear through religion. I don't think magsoslow down yung trend ng cohabitation at pagkakaroon ng anak outside of marriage. Especially na walang divorce sa pinas, at pataas ng pataas ang cost of living to the point na people may not even be able to afford to start a traditional family the way their parents did. Hindi lahat, but there are definitely people out there who cohabitate cause they can't shoulder the rent and day to day expenses alone.
7.52 here’s a quote for you. Di ko kinaya ang understanding mo sa bible. Please research about old and New Testament and Lord commands. Di lang sa 10 commandments ang alam mo
Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. Mark Twain
At the end of the day whatever decisions you make should be based on your own beliefs and opinions. Don’t make decision based on someone else’s life. Kung Ano man ang result ng choices mo panindigan mo and don’t point fingers at others.
@7:52. How brave of you to tackle a ground you seem very inadequate. In retrospect, you are right in all those biblical mentions but it’s dangerous to discuss unfamiliar territory.
First off, Mosaic laws were carried out as a cultural practice of Jews as people of God. Cultural practice changes but not moral.
God is a God of morality and that is irreversible,
Quote on tooth for tooth, eye for an eye, is a proverbial emphasis on strict laws on crimes and what to do with it. Again, this scenario is a specific Jewish Old Testament cultural practice or laws, In perspective, that is actually covered in New Testament command on loving your neighbor.
If you love your neighbor, would you steal your neighbor cow? Wife? Would you kill? No! Right?
Yes, Pre marital sex is not directly written as part of ten commandment. But lewdness, sexual immorality, perversions is written all over the Bible in almost all books of Apostle Paul. Read Matt. 15:19, Romans 13:13, 1Corinthian is full of this teachings, so as Galatians, Ephesians. Etc.
Consider this, Jesus said.Love the Lord your God will all your heart, with all your mind, with all your soul. With all your strength. Where is sexual immorality OK in that picture?
Think, Bible said, Don’t you know your body is a temple of God? .
Enjoy your life here on this perishing earth! The road to heaven is narrow indeed.
Daming malinis dito. let's just be happy for wyn wyn and the rest of the single parents. Atleast we're pretty sure that she will be a good mom at hindi siya magiging toxic parent.
Si wyn wyn naman ang magpapakain sa anak niya at magpapakamagulang.
Sabi sa bible though na once you have sex with someone, you are married in the eyes of god. So kung ang isang couple have sex with the intent of being commited to each other naman it wouldn't make a difference if they do it with or without being married sa isang simbahan or huwes.
So mali din ba yung babae na gustong mabuntis by going in-vitro and getting the sperm from the sperm bank? ;) Walang ama din yun pero you can let science do it for you ;) See, yung morality ng tao, its just according to your perspective :) I am not a catholic so walang problem sa akin pero si manang na sarado catholic ay di sangayon sa iyo ;)
I am not against premarital sex by any means. Pero I still believe in marriage before having a baby. The baby needs the stability and foundation of a family. Some people don't get married because of finances but di naman yan ang case ni Wyn.
Girl, you gotta have some empathy for her. Hindi natin alam ang background sa pagbubuntis niya but there must be a personal reason why hindi muna siya nagpakasal bago nabuntis. I also agree na kung magaanak ang mga tao there has to be some kind of solid commitment na may way to combine assets, build a home, set up some kind of health/death insurance, etc. between sa dalawang taong involved para hindi mahirapan ang pamilya na magthrive sa environment na walang kasiguraduhan, pero iba iba ang priorities ng tao and I can also see the pros nung mga hindi nagpapakasal, especially if they are financially secure and educated dahil they won't have the same setbacks tulad ng mga teenage parents.
yaan mo nga siya. nakikibalita lang tayo. it's not our job to tell her what to do. our job is to give moral support sa iba na alam nating masaya ang tinatahak na direksyon.
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Anong opinion nyo sa mga ‘influencers’ na nag aannounce ng pregnancy out of wedlock? Since they are ‘influencers’ does that mean they are also promoting pre-marital sex considering madami silang fans o audience sa kahit anong edad?
Of course not 7:03. Nang mag boom ang social media, nag boom din ang mga influencers. Nasa tao pa rin yan eh, kung tutularan mo or ina-idolize mo ang isang influencer.
Deleteang masasabi ko lang iba na ang panahon ngayon, believe it or not kahit yung mga elementary p lang e gngawa na yan.
DeleteYung tita ko na matanda na ngayon pinakasal sya ng lola ko kasi habang pauwi me kasabay na lalaki, hehe at yun ang napangasawa nya
Different people have different views on this. Some influencers do it for money or views, while some do it because they just simply want to share the good news to their fans. Whatever their reasons are, no one has the right to judge them. After all, weddings here on earth made by humans does not guarantee everlasting love. There are married couples who did not last, whereas some couples didn't even get married but they are still together until now. Wag masyadong problemahin ang mga bagay bagay, magpost man sila ng mga ganyang videos, di major sin yan. Babies are blessings. Besides, my utak naman mga tao. Kahit buntis idolo mo, di ibig sabihin ganun din gagawin mo.
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DeleteI dont think that they are promoting naman. Besides, Win is an adult.At wag na tayong maglokohan. A lot of people na are having sex kahit di kasal. Don't get me wrong, hindi porket maraming gumagawa go na agad. Ang akin lang it's their choice naman kung gusto nila gawin yun.
DeleteIf nabuntis or nagkaroon ng sakit bc of sex dapat alam din dapat nila ang consequences kasi they made a choice to do it. Hindi na ito kasalanan ng influencers also kasi yung viewers pa rin naman magdedecide for themselves. Kaya sa mga kabataan, dapat alam nila at sure sila bago nila isuko ang bataan.
Tired of hearing excuses like “baby is a blessing”… “mag-2022 na”… may sinabi bang hindi blessing ang babies? I’m a mom, I know they are. At ano naman ang kinalaman ng year sa values nang isang tao? Dahil mag-2022 na, tama na yung dating mali? Yeah, people have different views, but don’t confuse opinions to what is right and wrong.
Delete1:16 I agree with you.
Delete1:16 yes, may kinalaman ang year sa "values" because ang values naman (in this case) ay imposed lang by social and cultural norms. Opinyon mo lang din yan, hindi yan necessarily tama because we live in a patriarchal and predominantly catholic country where people demonize women who get married out of wedlock. almost 2022 na, kung stuck ka pa rin sa ganyang thinking, ibig sabihin hindi ka progresibo sa buhay. Hindi yan mali as long as consensual naman ang nangyari. Hindi rin naman ikaw ang magbubuntis o magpapaaral sa anak nila so anong mali doon? Kahit "influencers" o "celebrities" sila, hindi sila ang magulang ng audience/public kaya wag i-asa sa kanila ang paggabay sa mga bata.
DeletePaano ying mga tao na ayaw sa wedding or marriage? Bawal na ang sex?
DeleteInfluencers are are not promoting pre-marital sex unless they explicitly express it on their social media platforms. You might be confused with the term promoting. For sure they don't encourage it but what works for them may work for other people or their experiences can be warnings or there's a lesson to be learned from their personal matters. Also, there's really nothing with pre-marital sex as long as both parties involved are aware, consented and responsible for the outcome of their actions. You don't feed them so let them live their lives.
DeleteThis is what I always tell my kids - if your friends did something, it may be right or wrong, that doesn't mean you have to follow them just because they're your friends. You have a brain, use it.
Deleteomg 1:16 YES! Totally agree with you! Dahil uso kahit mali, ok na ngayon sa iba haha
DeleteTeh. Gagawin ng mag-jowa yun kahit walang “promotion”. The only thing are some couples (lalo na teenagers) don’t use protection kaya nabubuntis.
DeleteAs a woman,dinidiscourage ko talaga sa mga bagets kong pamangkin na idolohin yang mga artista or "influencers" na pra sakin hindi good role model like nakikipaglibe in sa mga jowa nilang "influencers" din kuno at nabubuntis out of wedlock..kahit sabihin nyo pang makaluma paniniwala ko, ayaw kong enormalize ito sa mga kabataan..since finafollow nla at iniidolo nla, maaring sundin din nla ito since ginawa nga ng idol nla...i know a baby is a blessing pro may tamang panahon pra sa lahat..minsan kasi ginagawa nlng nla yan pra sumabay sa uso at pra masabing cool...kawawa din kasi ang bata sa huli..
DeleteAng daming closed minded dito :) Please, it's 2022 na! :) This is the time for girl's empowerment :) My body my choice :) Kung ayaw nyo, huwag nyong pilitin yung iba ;) :) :D
DeleteI'm with you 1:16. Godbless you & your fam.
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DeleteSO NEED PAKASAL KASI NABUNTIS?
let them het married if they are ready na.
Yes 2022 na , nasa era kapa ng Spanish Inquisition
FYI pre marital sex is happening ever since hindi lang dahil uso lang or liberated na tayo.
DeleteDoing what is right is different from doing what is popular. For starters, mas mahirap siya.
DeleteBecause of herd mentality, all the more that we need to have honest conversations with our children.
Oo, 2022 na, but look! Despite all that women empowerment, di pa rin marunong bumili ng condom/contraceptives ang mga tao, naglipana ang pandemic babies, bow! Tapos sasabi sabi ng baby is a blessing, consenting adults kyeme ang mga tao.
Hay, don't me...
Agree 1:16
DeleteThere’s nothing wrong in premarital sex as long as you’re in right age, responsible and doing safe sex.
DeleteQuestion din, anong mali sa premarital s** between consenting adults? The way she did the vid naman is in good taste, not promoting anything but more on sharing a good life update so I see nothing wrong. Pero syempre depende sa delivery yan ng influencer. Cringey din naman for me when an influencer openly talks abt s** as if it's just an activity like how Angelica said it dun sa podcast. Kasi tmi, parang you're sharing your privates in public. But I don't see anything wrong with the idea na they did engage into it. Basta ba di sila pinilit at gusto nila ginagawa nila coz let's be real, ilan ba dito na 20 to 30+++ na ang still saving themselves sa wedding night? If you are one of them good for you, if you're not go girl pa din. Our body, our choice. Pero to answer the Q, I don't see anything wrong sa announcements ng pregnancy. The subject kasi is may paparating na baby and not na "uy we did it kaya may nabuo".
Delete7:03 although mas maganda talaga sana magka anak within the marriage eh okay na din sa akin na pinanindigan yung baby at pinapakita nila na happy sila to have a baby n that babies are blessings at magiging responsable silang magulang. Nowadays, na rampant abortion bilib pa din ako sa mga babae na kahit hindi kasal o minsan bata ngkaanak eh mas pinipili nila ang buhayin ang bata, panindigan ito, at ipakita na masaya sila dahil blessing ito. So for me, good influence pa din sa mga iba na maaaring same ng pinagdadaanan.
DeleteTotally agreed 1:16. Bec if you have intact values kahit saang lupalop pa ng mundo at kahit anong oras o taon pa yan, andun pa rin. Di apektado ng kung ano mang factor.
Delete1:45 YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT
DeleteHonestly people will have sex if they want to have sex. It’s a personal preference and not everyone is religious and has the same values. This is why sex education should be taught in schools. You can of course teach students how abstinence is the best form of prevention and you can share your own personal views and values about sex but it’s important to also provide people with the tools they need.
Delete1:16 yung kasal ng mga katoliko peke naman yan. Di porket kinasal sa simbahan ay matibay na. Binayaran mo nga kasal mo. Sa bible, walang bayad ang kasal. Civil wedding is more legit and valid. Mali din yung paniniwala mo na pag nabuntis outside marriage ay mali na, masyado ka namang narrow minded pag ganun. May mga kasado nga pero pabaya namang magulang. Although i am not compleltely against marriage, Win's case is not a major sin. She shouldnt be judged because I don't think she is promoting sex before marriage. Ang sama naman ng isip ng mga taonf mag iisip ng ganun. Btw, I am not her fan.
DeleteThere are 5 of us in a group. 4 got pregnant. Am I the lucky or unlucky one?. I'm asking this because I'm reading conflicting opinions.
DeleteI think it is not so much the premarital sex but being responsible about it. Granted, they might have taken precaution pero nabuo pa rin, I agree with 1:16 na people tend to interpret lines like “baby is a blessing” the wrong way. I know Wynwyn is a bright woman so I am thinking her point is to make sure the baby feels loved and cared for, and not be viewed as a mistake. Pero ayun nga, the fact remains that it might have been unplanned. (Speaking in general na ito). Going back to the topic of influencers ni OP, I agree with your sentiment, pero with the changing times nga, it might be best to ask about the need to promote responsible, safe sex and not advocating avoiding premarital sex.
DeleteBottom line is that, more than being a blessing, the baby is also a responsibility. Sabi nga nila, the question is not whether you want to have a baby, but the whether you want—and are ready—to be responsible for a human being.
Right is right and wrong is wrong. It doesnt matter if you were born today or 100 years ago. Values dont change. Only excuses and justifications are added.
Deletekadamay mo ko. ni-normalize na nila ang premarital sex. this is so wrong kahit na sa anong anggulo.
DeleteWala nmn masama sa tanong ni 7:03.
DeleteAgree ako kay 1:16
1:45 cringey comment. Ang values hindi IMPOSED ng socmed. I follow some influencers dahil good vibes lang it doesnt mean na gagayahin ko sila.
Parents and grandparents ko ang nagturo sakin ng values at yun pa rin pina follow ko kahit mag iba ang panahon. Yun din ang tinuturo ko sa anak ko.
To 1:45, Ang values ng tao nasa tao yan. Wala yan sa kung anong taon. What you are saying is, mag adjust ang values ng tao dahil 2022 na? Then that's not called values at all. Doesn't mean na one would want to stick with her values, eh hindi na progressive. I ask you, you think this socmed era is doing good for the humanity especially young generations? Dito na lang sa pinas, do you really think mas mas okay ang kabataan ngayon kumpara sa kabataan noon nung wala pang socmed? Not everything up to date is progressive. Yung pag judge sa tao yun ang mali. And not everything consensual falls under category of being right too. How if both minors doing it already, consensual, so does that make it right? - Not 1:16
Delete@2:52 Why is it mali? Who did she harm?
Delete1:16 those people have no personal values kasi. They just base their values om cultural norms. Nakikiuso lang.
Delete2:52 - what is wrong with being pregnant out of wedlock??? wyn is an adult, yung partner nya adult, they are financially stable…. so what is the problem?
Delete1.45 id you’re a catholic or christian you should read your bible agan. San nakalagay dun na may expiration ang command ni Lord? Na pagdating ng 2021 e pwede ng mag pre marital sex? Or other laws for that matter. Lord’s teaching is the same yesterday today and tomorrow. Walang expiration date yan
Delete12:09, agree! Mas gusto ko naman na parehong adult at financially stable kesa sa mga kasal nga pero umaasa at nakikitira pa rin sa magulang nila.
DeleteMy daughter is 7 yrs old and nag tanong sya sa akin kung pag may bf na sya ay may bahay na rin sila together. Yun kasi yung nakikita nya minsan sa ibang nasa youtube pero kids content like roblox. So dapat talaga pinipili natin ponapanood ng mga anak natin.
Delete1:16 I'm a mom and I totally agree with you! Kahit 2022 or 2030 na, magagalit and madidisappoint ako kung mabubuntis yung daughter ko out of wedlock. I'd still prefer for her to get married at the right age first before getting pregnant. You may all say na outdated ang thinking namin pero this is our way of protecting the future of our children. Madaming babae ang natigil sa pag reach ng life goals nila because of unplanned pregnancy; I just don't want that to happen to my daughter.
Delete1:16 totally agree with you!! Walang expiration date ang pag instill ng proper values sa kabataan kahit anong year na lalo na unplanned pregnancy will definitely change their lives and not everyone is financially capable. I always tell my daughter na magaral muna before boyfriend kasi mas sure ang future mo with a diploma; That's my way of protecting my daughter na she'll reach her dreams first before having the responsibility of taking care of a child. Madaming babae na hindi nagawa yung mga gusto nilang gawin dahil sa unplanned pregnancy. I'd still prefer for her to get married at a proper age before getting pregnant. Tignan niyo nalang sila Nikki Gil and Iya Villania, sila dapat ang tularan ng mga bata ngayon!
Delete8:02, are you also 1:45? Anyway, wow... sumakit dibdib ko sa sinabi mong peke ang kasal sa simbahan. You've crossed the line. It is about faith Iha. Kung wala ka nun, matuto ka man lang igalang ang mga bagay na wala sa paniniwala mo. I hope you have a genuine happy life.
Delete3:57 Sarah g, toni at alex thats why idol ko c mommy pinty at daddy bonoy.
DeleteKudos to 7:03 nagkaroon tayo ng magandang discussion. Hehe!
DeleteIm not condoning nor condemning influencers na nag aannounce ng pregnancy out of wedlock. But i will see to it na my kids will not copy other people. I will instill to them the values that my parents/grandparents taught me.
Wow.. san nanggaling yung unplanned pregnancy? Just because they're not married that doesn't mean they weren't planning to have a baby. Bakit andami judgmental dito? Sana ganyan din values nyo sa extra-judicial killings ha.
Delete9:06 Kung totoo ang sinasabi mo na hindi nag babago ang values even 100 years ago...
DeleteAlam mo bang pinapatay ang mga bakla by stoning?
Alam mo yun eye for an eye? (edi sana ang dami nang bulag ngayon?)
Alam mo bang pinapatay ang mga hindi nakapag simba ng holy sabath day?
According to the Bible, breaking the Sabbath or not observing the day of the Lord was an offence punishable by death (Exodus Ch. 31 v15).
SO NGAYON... GUSTO MO BANG IMPLEMENT NATEN ANG MGA VALUES NUON SA PRESENT TIMES
Pls lang, binigyan ka ng utak. Gamitin mo.
BTW,
WALA SA 10 COMMANDMENTS
NA BAWAL ANG PRE-MARITAL-SEX
10:02 teh, anong cringey sa comment? By social norms, I don't mean social media but the society. Makasabi ka pa diyan ng cringey e parang ikaw naman 'tong 'di nag-iisip. Ulitin ko lang ha, imposed by SOCIAL AND CULTURAL NORMS. Premarital sex happens all the time anywhere. Pre-Spanish era, mas open sa sexuality mga Filipinas until dumating ang Spaniards at nag-impose ang friars ng religious views nila on women at "tinuruan" silang mahiya at sinabing mali 'yong sariling kultura nila. Almost 2022 na and women are trying to break free from these oppressive and misogynistic views that go way back Spanish colonial era pa. Ngayon, between the two of us, sa tingin ko ikaw ang cringey because you neither know history nor its implication on today's norms.
DeleteLol premarital sex never had to be promoted though, sex has always been attractive by itself. Kaya nga tayong mga human species came up with so many ways to prevent people from having sex before naimbento ang contraception, such as instilling fear through religion. I don't think magsoslow down yung trend ng cohabitation at pagkakaroon ng anak outside of marriage. Especially na walang divorce sa pinas, at pataas ng pataas ang cost of living to the point na people may not even be able to afford to start a traditional family the way their parents did. Hindi lahat, but there are definitely people out there who cohabitate cause they can't shoulder the rent and day to day expenses alone.
Delete7.52 here’s a quote for you. Di ko kinaya ang understanding mo sa bible. Please research about old and New Testament and Lord commands. Di lang sa 10 commandments ang alam mo
DeleteNever argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Mark Twain
1:03 and yet here you are arguing with me? BWHAHAHAH BOOM!
DeleteIkaw mag research, utusan mo pa ko?
wag kang tamad huy!
BWHAHAHAHAH
1:03 di mo naman nasagot yun mga tanong teh. Napahiya ka lang hahaha
DeleteIkaw ata dapat mag research.
Apply ba naten ang values nuon
Kahet mali?
Gaya ng suspected palang stoned to death na agad.
2022 na. Buksan mo na isip mo.
At the end of the day whatever decisions you make should be based on your own beliefs and opinions. Don’t make decision based on someone else’s life. Kung Ano man ang result ng choices mo panindigan mo and don’t point fingers at others.
Delete@7:52. How brave of you to tackle a ground you seem very inadequate. In retrospect, you are right in all those biblical mentions but it’s dangerous to discuss unfamiliar territory.
DeleteFirst off, Mosaic laws were carried out as a cultural practice of Jews as people of God. Cultural practice changes but not moral.
God is a God of morality and that is irreversible,
Quote on tooth for tooth, eye for an eye, is a proverbial emphasis on strict laws on crimes and what to do with it. Again, this scenario is a specific Jewish Old Testament cultural practice or laws, In perspective, that is actually covered in New Testament command on loving your neighbor.
If you love your neighbor, would you steal your neighbor cow? Wife? Would you kill? No! Right?
Yes, Pre marital sex is not directly written as part of ten commandment. But lewdness, sexual immorality, perversions is written all over the Bible in almost all books of Apostle Paul. Read Matt. 15:19, Romans 13:13, 1Corinthian is full of this teachings, so as Galatians, Ephesians. Etc.
Consider this, Jesus said.Love the Lord your God will all your heart, with all your mind, with all your soul. With all your strength. Where is sexual immorality OK in that picture?
Think, Bible said, Don’t you know your body is a temple of God? .
Enjoy your life here on this perishing earth! The road to heaven is narrow indeed.
1:03
DeleteKung kasalanan man ang pre marital sex
Pang ilan sya sa sampung utos ng diyos?
Gaano kabigat na kasalanan sya?😂
Obvious na di sya ganon ka important
Dahil wala sya sa ranking diba?
Wow yung nag-aaway dito dahil sa bible pero kung maka-judge hahaha. Ewan ko sa inyo..
Delete6:47
DeleteAteng HER BODY. HER RULES.
Pakelaman mo KATAWAN MO .
You cant impose your morality on others!
Hayaan mo na kame. Tingnan ko lang kung makapasok ka sa langit
BWHAHAHAHA
6;47 dami MONG KUDAAAAAAAA
DeleteSo pano kung hindi ako kristyano? So okey na tayo? Wag kang EPAL sa buhay ng may buhay ! Nakiki chismis ka lang dito!
7.26 wow, may ranking pala sa commands ng Diyos. San mo napulot yan? My goodness! Your twisted belief and brains are your ticket to hell!
Delete6:47
DeleteOmgeeee kawawa k naman. Still stuck with archaic values.
6:47 NAPAHIYA KA NOH? KINAIN MO SALITA MO. NEVER ARGUE DAW HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
DeleteIPOKRITANKABESH😝
Daming malinis dito. let's just be happy for wyn wyn and the rest of the single parents. Atleast we're pretty sure that she will be a good mom at hindi siya magiging toxic parent.
DeleteSi wyn wyn naman ang magpapakain sa anak niya at magpapakamagulang.
Hindi niya tayo inoobliga.
Her body, her life, her choice.
Congrats Wyn!
ReplyDeleteMore pandemic babies! Congrats!
ReplyDeleteSino ama?
ReplyDeleteHOW??????
ReplyDelete10:35 of course you know how
Deletemag-aral ka po ng sex education
DeleteSaang kweba ka ba nakatira 10:35 at you still don't know about the birds and the bees?
Delete10:35, ganito yun. Gusto mo illustrate ko? Step 1, . . .NOT.
DeleteBlooming sya, congrats!
ReplyDeleteWAG KAYO ATAT. Kahet itago niya yan, lalabas din yan hahahaha
ReplyDeleteWait nyo mga maritess
Congrats!
ReplyDeleteSubscribe daw kayo for father reveal. Hehe
ReplyDeleteFATHER REVEAL next to gender reveal hahahahahahaah tawang tawa ko sayo
DeleteYung mga nagtatanong ng tatay mag antay lang tayo nireresearch na ni FP yan hehehehe love you FP!
ReplyDeletegaling nung BI dati, buntis nga sya
ReplyDeletePremarital s.x is is still immoral, kahit pa sabihing madami na gumagawa nyan it will not change the fact that it is immoral
ReplyDeleteOkay Santa Santita 😂😂😂
DeleteSabi sa bible though na once you have sex with someone, you are married in the eyes of god. So kung ang isang couple have sex with the intent of being commited to each other naman it wouldn't make a difference if they do it with or without being married sa isang simbahan or huwes.
Delete2:59 Yes, if you are a religious christian pr bible believer. However, not all share the same beliefs.
Deletespell h-y-p-o-c-r-i-t-e
DeleteDi ba may nagpredict sa kanya na magbubuntis siya?
ReplyDeleteBlooming siya!
ReplyDeleteSunod2x na yan guys. Gender revel. Maternity shoots. Etc etc
ReplyDeleteHohum, da who nobody. Meh.
ReplyDeleteYet you took the time to comment 8:00 about a nobody
DeleteSino kaya yung isa pang na BI na buntis rin?
ReplyDeletewow kudos to wynwyn ang angeline q. Mga tahimik lang sa lovelife tapos biglang ngbubuntis. very good lowkey relationship.
ReplyDeleteSo mali din ba yung babae na gustong mabuntis by going in-vitro and getting the sperm from the sperm bank? ;) Walang ama din yun pero you can let science do it for you ;) See, yung morality ng tao, its just according to your perspective :) I am not a catholic so walang problem sa akin pero si manang na sarado catholic ay di sangayon sa iyo ;)
ReplyDeleteAs a saradong catholic, miss, mali ang judgment mo sa amin. Besides, what you're saying is another concern but it's off the subject. ;)
DeleteI am not against premarital sex by any means. Pero I still believe in marriage before having a baby. The baby needs the stability and foundation of a family. Some people don't get married because of finances but di naman yan ang case ni Wyn.
ReplyDeleteGirl, you gotta have some empathy for her. Hindi natin alam ang background sa pagbubuntis niya but there must be a personal reason why hindi muna siya nagpakasal bago nabuntis. I also agree na kung magaanak ang mga tao there has to be some kind of solid commitment na may way to combine assets, build a home, set up some kind of health/death insurance, etc. between sa dalawang taong involved para hindi mahirapan ang pamilya na magthrive sa environment na walang kasiguraduhan, pero iba iba ang priorities ng tao and I can also see the pros nung mga hindi nagpapakasal, especially if they are financially secure and educated dahil they won't have the same setbacks tulad ng mga teenage parents.
Deleteyaan mo nga siya. nakikibalita lang tayo. it's not our job to tell her what to do.
Deleteour job is to give moral support sa iba na alam nating masaya ang tinatahak na direksyon.
Di ba sya made dethrone nyan? Di ba Reyna Hispana Katolika achu chu yan?
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