Lol titles mean nothing. I wanna know the scope of his job. Or baka naman nakapasa din sa interview because the interviewers recognize him. There's all sorts of biases that exist talaga. Dito sa U.S, even if DEI is a big initiative in almost all tech companies, we still have a loooonnng way to go.
Privileged people. Yung nga matatagal ng may work experience sa BPO na nag-aapply will not get a project manager position ng ganun-ganun lang. And then here's an actor na walang muwang sa corporate world naging porject manager agad.
depende po siguro if big company or small company. parang ate ko dinaan sa tsika nakuha pero hirap na hirap sya sadami ng documemtation as project manager and small company sya maliit lang sweldo mga 30k
True. Before ka maging project manager sa bpo you should know how the operation works that means you need experience. Most project managers even need certification.
kung ang hr ay mga pinoy then expect the unexpected, they usually look for the school where you graduated and your course kung pangmayaman. bonus na lang kungnmay experience, this is what i have seen while working. they don't value tge employees na matagal na sa kanila, on one logistics company that I worked for, our finance supervisor was already working for them for almost 20 years he decided to apply for the dept. manager position. they didnt accept his application and told him to resign first on his current post, he resigned and guess what they didnt hire him for the dept. manager position despite the years of experience and good employee records.
yes, most hr sa "big 4" universities tumitingin. yung iba naka-specify pa talaga sa job description na preferred nila ang graduate from this school. mahalaga din naman ang experience at management skills, ano puro theory ka na lang?
August 2, 2021 at 12:46 AM beh, kung hndi ka pa nakakapagtrabaho s bpo, shut up k nlng. Napapaghalataan ka n wala kang alam s kalakaran dito. - call center agent since 2017
115 dahil dyan kaya nangibang bansa ako maski wla akong plano. Napaka unfair kasi sa atin. At sa lahat pa may kurapsyon at dapat sipsip ka din. Ang toxic lang.
12:46, try mo mag-isip. may point naman yung tanong ni ka-FP. Once you tried working in the corporate world, malalaman mong may ladder talaga para sa simpleng employee, walang backer, walang kamag-anak na executive level. Sa managerial level, questionable talaga na yun ang entry level sa kanya. Imagine, no exp AT ALL tapos magmamanage ng tao & project? WTH?
Actually guys me companies talaga naghahire ng project managers kahit kaka pasok mo palang. Our company does that. You won't be managing people but small online projects.
I don't think he's telling the truth. No company will ever hire u especially in BPO world if u have no experience in that said field. Ops Manager ako for 5 years, when I tried to apply again with the same position I couldn't make it dahil andaming kakompetensya. Talino at experience ang labanan, thus I end up as Team leader ulit. Project manager, ano yun tutunganga ka? Zero knowledge. Baka agent. Nahiya lang magsabi ng totoo.
Merong siyang college degree, merong work experience sa pagiging Artista. Wag underestimate ang talino na nakukuha sa pagiging Artista. Lahat ng klaseng tao at sitwasyon nararanasan nila sa trabaho na yan. He is also well-traveled, another way to learn and experience life and people. Sa Unang Hirit, they do segments that they also learn to manage on the fly. Hindi Lang yung pagiging employee sa BPO per se ang experience na pwede sa isang Project Manager position. Mabuti nga yung taong yan naghanap ng trabaho para buhayin yung pamilya niya. Hindi ninyo siya dapat husgahan or kutyain.
Haays many comments above, clearly not in management and unsure whether they will make it for exhibiting (typical) cliche staff level thinking: myopic, unfounded conclusion, poor understanding of hiring decisions (sorry to say where you went to school makes a difference talaga, kung green, blue & maroon ka, pasok ka sa lahat). good for you juancho for this addition to your portfolio.
Haays many comments above, clearly not in management and unsure whether they will make it for exhibiting (typical) cliche staff level thinking: myopic, unfounded conclusion, poor understanding of hiring decisions (sorry to say where you went to school makes a difference talaga, kung green, blue & maroon ka, pasok ka sa lahat). good for you juancho for this addition to your portfolio.
Ano pong kompanya yun?Walang experience Project Manager agad?Dapat at least 2 years experience as Project Manager.Maniniwala sana ako kung Team Lead lang.
Hindi rin nagtAgal sa trabaho kaya poor decision na gawing PM without experience. Dapat work your way up. How can you manage kung Mas experienced ang staff?
10:19 Eh di wag kang maniwala. Wala naman kawalan kung di ka maniwala. FYI hindi porket nakapagtrabaho kayo ng 2-4 yrs sa isang BPO ay alam niyo na ang pamamalakad ng lahaaaaat ng BPO sa pilipinas.
First time pero project manager agad? Usually you start as an agent then you climb up the ladder sa BPO eh. Unless marami ka ng experience before na related to the position.
Good for him. Kaya maganda na may natapos at ibang set of skills para may fall back. Maski di nagtagal yung work nya, magandang experience yan for him.
Pagkaregular ng asawa nag apply na sya sa supervisor position. Then boom tanggap. 1st bpo nya yun. Try din nung 10yrs sa bpo magtry mag apply for supervisor position baka swertehin
I know someone who had been jobless for a while. Then he was hired as a supervisor in a BPO. I am really wondering ano magic ginawa nya bakit siya kinuha
12:48 baka sa inyong bpo lang baks, samin yung mga ahente na lang yung tumatanggi kasi usually kapag magaling ka then 4-5 yrs ka na sa kanila sila na magpupush sayong magpa promote.
12:48 Nasa empleyado na yon. Tanungin dapat ang sarili kung ka promote promote ba ang sarili? Baka sub par ang trabaho, tapos uineexpect na mapopromote just because of tenure. Ha! Maraming ganyan, kala nasa haba ng serbisyo ang dahilan ng pag promote.
Hahaha daming bitter. Hindi na lang maging masaya na nakahanap pa rin g work yung tao. Di niya naman kasalanan na tinanggap siya saka wala naman siyang tinapakan. Sunsin niyo si 12:50 applyan niyo yung opening. Hehe
hays d nalng matuwa sa achievement ng ibang dami kuda eh atleast sya ngtry sya magaapply sya ng other job may diskarte sya d lang pagaartista alam nyan ng good for him natanggap sya hindi yung paawa effect lng hingi dto hingi dun
Just because you can't believe it doesn't mean it can't happen. Ang awayin niyo yung HR na nag hire. Ni hindi niyo pa nga alam ang buomg kwento e. Maging masaya na lang para sa iba, no ofs and buts. Unless government position yan na kailangan ng civil service eligibility. Pero private company naman so wala tayo magagawa dun.
Not talangka. Most of us are decent employees who speak for the majority na ni hindi man lang makausad sa position nila kahit dekada na sa trabaho. Then here comes your idol Juancho who has nothing to offer but his face then uungusan pa yung well experienced talaga. Siguro wala ka pang work noh kaya you didn’t get the point?
2:22 Juancho is a college graduate who had years of experience in dealing with people of various classes. Nag host siya for a morning show. Malay naman natin kung special project yung binigay sa kanyang work. Wag triggered agad. Know the facts fitst
1:10 obviously di ka nagwork sa BPO company. There are reasons as to why you see such comments. Pagnagwork ka sa BPO, you'll know that you have to start at an entry level and work your way up. Unless siguro anak ka ng may ari ng kumpanya. Regardless, it will still leave a bad taste sa mga taong experienced at matagal na sa kumpanya. Ganyan sa IT corporate world and they are not being talangka. He should be ashamed sa totoo lang.
2:22 Hindi makausad, bakit kaya? Maybe check your performance? Di sapat na dahilan ang tagal sa trabaho para mapromote ka. I’m speaking from POV of an employer of a private company. Kung magaling ka talaga at feel mo shortchanged ka , please don’t waste more time at masasayang ka lang sa current company mo.
8:21 pwedeng di siya nagtagal sa position dahil sa mga toxic na kasama. Yun mga kagaya niyo. Also, who are you to say na hindi sya deserving? Ni hindi mo nga alam kung ano exactly ang work na binigay sa kanya.
Kay Juancho na mismo nanggaling na wala syang experience sa ganyan. Alamin mo muna girl ang qualifications ng isang Project Manager sa BPO bago ka kumuda ng crab crab nya yan.
Sa bpo number 1 yun confidence. He has that and a degree. He could be entry level project manager. Susko. Tatalangka mag isip. Bash dto bash dun.pag mag work at pinagmalaki ma mag work, humble brag. Pag nanghimgi privileged at tamad.
Entry level na project manager? Doesn't work that way dear. You dont apply in a company with no experience and become a project manager just coz your are confident. And yes, he's bragging. PM agad? Haha. It's not something nice to brag about. Obviously he doesn't know how BPO works dyan palang sa pagpost nya na PM sya. So he doesn't deserve it, thus the comments.
When you got me sa finding an alternative during pandemic kesa nganey then you bragged about getting a high position in corporate with 0 experience in the next statement. Epic fail yung bragging mo ๐
Sa mga ngsasabing Crab mentality, nagwowork ba kayo sa BPO industry? try nyo magresearch usually ilang years dpt ang exp. mo sa bpo world bago ka maging PM kaya unfair talaga yan. Meh, showbiz eme tsk tsk
Mga nakakakita lang naman ng "talangka" yung mga tamad magwork. Kung goal getter ka, kitang kita na mali talaga. Kudos to him for finding a job pero di na sana pinagmalaki.
hahaha for sure job title lang ang project manager, ganyan kasi sa BPO. Eh samin nga may executive ang JOb title. For sure most comments here hindi alam ang takbo sa BPO and how they will tagged you sa role.
Madaming types ng bpo. Di porket sa iba ang project manager eh maegerial position na, sa ibang companies ganoon din. Yung ibang project manager nga temp positions lang sa iba.
Pansin ko lang... Yung mga inis, nasa BPO hierarchy din ba kayo? Hm... kinda shows the ethic kasi. You don't trash a person because he/she has no experience, instead you help them learn. Well, Art kasi field ko, so wala masyadong hilahaan/siraan. Instead, kopyahan hehe!
Ha anong pinagsasabi ng iba dito na project manager AGAD? Eh pwede rin namang entry level yun. Kahit fresh grad pwede mapasok as project manager. Akala nyo ata "manager" as in mataas na ranggo na
Baka as in specific 'Project Manager' for a specific short-term project lang? Tsaka graduate naman siya ng isa sa big 4 universities. Hindi naman din siya nagtagal kaya maging happy na lang tayo for him kesa naman magsugal siya at mamalimos ng pera online noh
Impressive, baka magaling lang talaga siya. BPO din ako noon, yung mga kasabayan kong mga fresh grads na mga dean's lister, scholar, children of CEOs, etc. nag-start talaga sa entry level positions.
I am proud of him na naghanap siya ng work pero kasi nakakapagtaka talaga na maging project manager ka if wala kang experience sa BPO or kahit anong corporate background. Hindi yun pambabash. For sure kasi maraming naapakan na mga tenured worker sa conpany na yun na nagpakahirap for a few years pero sa newbie binigay ang position. Maaaring hindi naman fault ni Juancho yun pero ang kino call out ng mga tao dito is yung HR bakit porke artista at guwapo manager agad. Hindi yun crab mentality. It’s caling out the injustice and unfairness of what happened.
Minsan title lang din yan, pero the work is comparable to normal rank and file. One account here in our company and title ng agents, logistics manager (B2B for a global shipping company) pero taga-track at encode sila ng orders, they don't really manage people.
16 yrs in BPO company here. wag po kayong magtaka if na hire sya as project manager agad. most of the accounts in a BPO needs someone who have a knowledge in marketing stuff or maybe an exposure to media. Project manager is a position that needs to think of a process improvement para tumaas sales or any strategies para ma meet demands ng client. Maybe my potential sya para dun. and when he said hindi tumagal kasi possible na for project basis lang sya not contractual pero we hired someone temporarily dahil nga may project na need ma achieve ung gusto ng client. kaya sa mga nega dyan at walang alam sa kalakaran ng BPO company quiet na lang po kayo - HR Manager
Sa company namin may position na Project Manager 1, fancy name lang ung pero prang trainee palang sya, ino-oversee padin ng senior project manager. Kung baga parang assistant nya.
Hindi naman bago Kung mabilis siyang umakyat sa corporate ladder. Unfair talaga ang Mundo. Imagine silang mga artista halos 5 oras lang sa set pero nakaka six figure na sahod Samantalang ang mga ibang staff and crew e minimum wage kahit 24 oras nagtatrabaho.
Saan ba yang bpo na yan. I worked in bpo for two years before I quit but it’s impossible to move to up that fast kasi there are so many more with many years of experience before you.
Dami namang galit dito. Pwede namang title lang ung project manager and project basis lang. May degree naman siya and paano kung people person naman sya. Maging masaya na lang kayo na nag try siya mag work nung walang wala kaysa manghingi ng donation. Nag work ako sa bpo and shared services dati pero hindi naman nega tingin ko sa post na to
Hirap na hirap kayo maging PM tas isisisi nyo galet nyo sa taong PM agad hahaha
Flex ko lang mga mamsh, 3mos lang ako sa first job ko na promote agad ako to PM. More almost 15yrs nako nagwowork. 3companies, flex ko lang ulit na lahat abox PM inabot kong role/title/post
At wala akong backer at graduate ako ng state university.
Kaya wag nyo ijudge yung mga taong mas nabigyan ng magandang opportunity kesa sa inyo.
May mga magagaling talaga like me since birth hahaha
Bitter niyo guys, baka naman "title" lang yan. Ako nga fresh grad, nakapasok ako sa company, "auditor" agad ang posisyon pero pang fresh grad talaga siya. Sino ba kase nagsabi sainyong magtagal ng ten years sa isang company as entry level?? Pwede naman magapply sa iba.
Ka officemate ko po si Juancho, and yung post nya is just for a temporary project lang kaya sya nakuha even without managerial experience. Sana po maging malinaw na.
In my company, our project managers are not bosses in the traditional sense. They create and keep track of project plans, make sure tasks are completed according to schedule, and raise alarms if they’re not. So yes, someone fresh from college can function as a project manager. That title doesn’t mean you’re above everyone else.
Bago pa maka graduate si Juancho, he’s been starting and running businesses of his own. So it’s not like wala siyang experience sa management. He’s fit to run a project
In my company, our project managers are not bosses in the traditional sense. They create and keep track of project plans, make sure tasks are completed according to schedule, and raise alarms if they’re not. So yes, someone fresh from college can function as a project manager. That title doesn’t mean you’re above everyone else. ---- YES!! Project Managers do not have people working under them. They are Individual Contributors sa company. Nakakaloka. Ang nenega ng mga tao dito! Dun kayo kay Ping Medina!
he applied and got hired bakit kayo galit sa kanya? magalit kayo sa naghire? lol and if the HR thinks that he is qualified enough to do a "project manager" job in a BPO na depende naman sa account kung anong role ang ganap ng PM then its okay. as long as he did his job. di sya tumagal then he gained experience so next time na mag apply sya may experience na sya dba. that is how employment works naman dapat dba? kesehodang fresh grad or not as long as you are qualified then go. baka naman kasi fresh grad is accepted sa condition ng application... galet agad kayo? crying unfair? unfair naman talaga ang mundo mga sis tanggapin na natin.galit na galit kayo sa mga negastars pero kayo din nega.
Hey guys chill. I was in BPO for more than 10yrs. Not all Project Manager titles are managerial level or managing teams/manpower. Some BPO's have project managers as entry level positions. These companies are usually on data processing/back end. They still go through training and some would be regularized, some won't. Hindi lang call center / phone calls ang BPO. Let's just be happy that BPO's are still hiring despite the pandemic.
So many nega comments. At least nag apply at nagtrabaho ng marangal yung tao ano, it's not like he got a cushy job na tatamadtamad lang at walang ginagawa.
Daming bitter. Nagtrabaho nang marangal, sasabihin may backer lang. Nag online limos, sasabihin ang tamad, bakit di nagtrabaho, artista yan syempre maraming tatanggap dyan. Pero pag ginamit ang pagka artista para makakuha ng work, magagalit pa rin. Ano ba.
BPO employee here! Hello po, his title may sound BIG because of “Manager”, but sometimes it’s just a title.. we have account managers or project managers but they are also staff (rank & file) levels. Maybe it just means he’s handling a certain project or account in the company. Like in ours for example, our corp department handles companies so they assign a certain staff to handle the needs of one company, they’re like the contact or liaison officer.. ganern..
Exactly. Akala nila agad mala OM or site director yun position. Pag B2B ang bpo, project manager ang tawag sa mga naghahandle nb clients. Also, in IT ang nagcoconnect ng client and tech people is called a project manager. He sees the project through.
Sa US kahit po kahit kakagraduate lang tinatanggap na manager. Halos karamihan sa company na manager kakagraduate lang. Equal opportunity may experience o wala. Sa Pinas lang naman yung sobrang higpit pagdating sa qualifications.
OA mo! Hello depende naman kung anong company! Pwede ka ba biglang maging auditing manager, internal communication manager or logistics operations manager kung bagong graduate ka lang? Siguro kung shift manager sa mga stores or fast food pwede pa.
Sa mga pictures, it seems that he is in charge of advertising…media mileage where he has an experience so I will understand kung maging project manager siya. Maybe it’s also for a short-lived project lang din kasi di naman kailangan na palaging may advertising na ganyan kabongga ang BPO- BPO Recruitment Manager
ang daming hanash dto. BPO since 1998. Nag OM, Nag Director. nag workforce, nag recruitment. Minsan, pinapaganda yun tawag sa isang role para maiba or dahil sa company culture. Hindi porke sinabing Project Manager. MANAGER talga in the truest sense of the word. Minsan Client Success Manager, pero customer service pa din yun level 1. yun walang alam wag hanash ng hanash. Yun BPO tatanggap yan ng walang experience. Yun BPO, mag popromote ng hindi ganon kagaling performance. Ano ba palagay nyo sa BPO? tenured lang ang hinahire? Magaling lang hinahire? Hindi ba marami satin ang mindset na "ay callcenter ka lang?" dahil marami satin ang hindi mataas ang tingin sa nagtatrabaho sa BPO. Tapos, porke artista na nakapasok as project manager kung mag react mga basher kala mo nmn dinaya nya agad at in question agad ang integridad ng kumpanya. n
Ang daming nagrereklamo ditona sinasabit bias daw at unfair.... iyon ngang dating presidente nang america, walang experience sa politika pero naging presidente. Mga council sa IATF mga di naman doctor e sila nagplaplano sa pandemic. Sa mga nagsasabing di nangyayari sa USA yn..... hello!!!!? Kapag magaling ka sa undergrad mo kahit wala kang experience pwede kang derecho managerial o sa executive ka agad.
Atleast marangal pa den yan. Keep it up
ReplyDeleteGrabe mga PaREVEALS! Heart Stopping!
DeleteFresh grad na project manager? HAHAHAHAHA SANA OL
DeleteLol titles mean nothing. I wanna know the scope of his job. Or baka naman nakapasa din sa interview because the interviewers recognize him. There's all sorts of biases that exist talaga. Dito sa U.S, even if DEI is a big initiative in almost all tech companies, we still have a loooonnng way to go.
DeletePrivileged people. Yung nga matatagal ng may work experience sa BPO na nag-aapply will not get a project manager position ng ganun-ganun lang. And then here's an actor na walang muwang sa corporate world naging porject manager agad.
DeleteTrulili 8:07 hahaha... Advantage talaga pag artista. Ipasik nia sana si ping para hindi nanghihingi ng limos
Deletedepende po siguro if big company or small company. parang ate ko dinaan sa tsika nakuha pero hirap na hirap sya sadami ng documemtation as project manager and small company sya maliit lang sweldo mga 30k
DeletePing medina left the group
ReplyDeleteBenta mars hahahahaha!
Deletegaling mo dyan gurl!
DeletePareho tayo ng naisip
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Naunahan mo ko bakla ka!!!!!! Hahahahahaha
DeleteWalang experience pero project manager agad. Anong kumpanya ba yan?
ReplyDeleteSame question. It's an honest living pero sobrang questionable na walang experience sa BPO nor any other corporate job tapos projecr manager agad.
DeleteGrabe. Bitter!! Paki niyo eh di gayahin niyo
DeleteOh eh di #AlamsNa ๐♀️๐♀️
Delete12:15 Exactly my thoughts. Why would a company hire someone of a managerial position with no experience at all. Sounds questionable indeed.๐ค
DeleteTrue. Before ka maging project manager sa bpo you should know how the operation works that means you need experience. Most project managers even need certification.
DeleteIf i were him, i would be embarrassed to tell the world that i was hired as project manager without any experience in regard to that field.
DeleteUng last line nya ako napaisip. Baka di sya na regular sa work. Medyo questionable na PM agad sya unless kilala nya me ari nung kumpanya
Deletekung ang hr ay mga pinoy then expect the unexpected, they usually look for the school where you graduated and your course kung pangmayaman. bonus na lang kungnmay experience, this is what i have seen while working. they don't value tge employees na matagal na sa kanila, on one logistics company that I worked for, our finance supervisor was already working for them for almost 20 years he decided to apply for the dept. manager position. they didnt accept his application and told him to resign first on his current post, he resigned and guess what they didnt hire him for the dept. manager position despite the years of experience and good employee records.
DeleteSo unfair :(
DeleteBaka job title lang, some had fancy names lang ata talaga.
Deleteobviously may backer
Deleteyes, most hr sa "big 4" universities tumitingin. yung iba naka-specify pa talaga sa job description na preferred nila ang graduate from this school. mahalaga din naman ang experience at management skills, ano puro theory ka na lang?
DeleteAugust 2, 2021 at 12:46 AM beh, kung hndi ka pa nakakapagtrabaho s bpo, shut up k nlng. Napapaghalataan ka n wala kang alam s kalakaran dito. - call center agent since 2017
Delete115 dahil dyan kaya nangibang bansa ako maski wla akong plano. Napaka unfair kasi sa atin. At sa lahat pa may kurapsyon at dapat sipsip ka din. Ang toxic lang.
Delete12:46, try mo mag-isip.
Deletemay point naman yung tanong ni ka-FP. Once you tried working in the corporate world, malalaman mong may ladder talaga para sa simpleng employee, walang backer, walang kamag-anak na executive level. Sa managerial level, questionable talaga na yun ang entry level sa kanya. Imagine, no exp AT ALL tapos magmamanage ng tao & project? WTH?
Actually guys me companies talaga naghahire ng project managers kahit kaka pasok mo palang. Our company does that. You won't be managing people but small online projects.
DeleteI don't think he's telling the truth. No company will ever hire u especially in BPO world if u have no experience in that said field. Ops Manager ako for 5 years, when I tried to apply again with the same position I couldn't make it dahil andaming kakompetensya. Talino at experience ang labanan, thus I end up as Team leader ulit. Project manager, ano yun tutunganga ka? Zero knowledge. Baka agent. Nahiya lang magsabi ng totoo.
DeleteBaka kaya di nagtagal kasi wala syang alam sa PM job sa bpo...
Deletepero may previous experience un ndi ung newbie pa talaga sa bpo...pag-tsitsismisan ka ng mga tao pag nalaman nilang wala...
DeleteMerong siyang college degree, merong work experience sa pagiging Artista. Wag underestimate ang talino na nakukuha sa pagiging Artista. Lahat ng klaseng tao at sitwasyon nararanasan nila sa trabaho na yan. He is also well-traveled, another way to learn and experience life and people. Sa Unang Hirit, they do segments that they also learn to manage on the fly. Hindi Lang yung pagiging employee sa BPO per se ang experience na pwede sa isang Project Manager position. Mabuti nga yung taong yan naghanap ng trabaho para buhayin yung pamilya niya. Hindi ninyo siya dapat husgahan or kutyain.
DeleteHaays many comments above, clearly not in management and unsure whether they will make it for exhibiting (typical) cliche staff level thinking: myopic, unfounded conclusion, poor understanding of hiring decisions (sorry to say where you went to school makes a difference talaga, kung green, blue & maroon ka, pasok ka sa lahat). good for you juancho for this addition to your portfolio.
DeleteHaays many comments above, clearly not in management and unsure whether they will make it for exhibiting (typical) cliche staff level thinking: myopic, unfounded conclusion, poor understanding of hiring decisions (sorry to say where you went to school makes a difference talaga, kung green, blue & maroon ka, pasok ka sa lahat). good for you juancho for this addition to your portfolio.
DeleteHindi po managerial position ang project manager. Yan din po start ko after the training sa energy refining company.
DeleteAno pong kompanya yun?Walang experience Project Manager agad?Dapat at least 2 years experience as Project Manager.Maniniwala sana ako kung Team Lead lang.
DeleteHindi rin nagtAgal sa trabaho kaya poor decision na gawing PM without experience. Dapat work your way up. How can you manage kung Mas experienced ang staff?
Delete10:19 Eh di wag kang maniwala. Wala naman kawalan kung di ka maniwala. FYI hindi porket nakapagtrabaho kayo ng 2-4 yrs sa isang BPO ay alam niyo na ang pamamalakad ng lahaaaaat ng BPO sa pilipinas.
DeleteTrulili. Nakakababa ng moral ng employee pag ganyan. Ung tipong ikaw ang magdadala sa kanya.
DeleteIf the account is B2B then the employees are sometimes called project managers. Also, hindi lahat ng BPO customer service. For example accenture.
DeleteWow project manager agad
ReplyDeleteHaha showbiz talaga, walang exp. yan ah? What company? Unfair talaga
ReplyDeleteProject manager? ๐๐๐ kung di ka lang gwapo Juancho ha
ReplyDeleteGrabe ha project manager agad?!
ReplyDeleteFirst time pero project manager agad? Usually you start as an agent then you climb up the ladder sa BPO eh. Unless marami ka ng experience before na related to the position.
ReplyDeleteGood for him. Kaya maganda na may natapos at ibang set of skills para may fall back. Maski di nagtagal yung work nya, magandang experience yan for him.
ReplyDeleteGood for him. At least he found a way to still earn money. Hindi puro reklamo tapos wala namang ginagawa
ReplyDeleteWow! Good for you. Pero, sana all ano? project manager agad kahit no exp sa corporate world lol
ReplyDeleteproject manager agad tas ung ibang sampung taon na sa bpo hindi makaangat kahit supervisor level ๐
ReplyDeletePagkaregular ng asawa nag apply na sya sa supervisor position. Then boom tanggap. 1st bpo nya yun. Try din nung 10yrs sa bpo magtry mag apply for supervisor position baka swertehin
DeleteI know someone who had been jobless for a while. Then he was hired as a supervisor in a BPO. I am really wondering ano magic ginawa nya bakit siya kinuha
DeleteWhy not apply for other jobs?
Delete12:48 baka sa inyong bpo lang baks, samin yung mga ahente na lang yung tumatanggi kasi usually kapag magaling ka then 4-5 yrs ka na sa kanila sila na magpupush sayong magpa promote.
Delete12:48 Nasa empleyado na yon. Tanungin dapat ang sarili kung ka promote promote ba ang sarili? Baka sub par ang trabaho, tapos uineexpect na mapopromote just because of tenure. Ha! Maraming ganyan, kala nasa haba ng serbisyo ang dahilan ng pag promote.
DeleteMay degree naman siya, May experience dealing with people. Hayaan nyo na guys di naman nag tagal ang work. Pwede nyo ng applyan ang opening.
ReplyDeleteHahaha daming bitter. Hindi na lang maging masaya na nakahanap pa rin g work yung tao. Di niya naman kasalanan na tinanggap siya saka wala naman siyang tinapakan. Sunsin niyo si 12:50 applyan niyo yung opening. Hehe
Deletehays d nalng matuwa sa achievement ng ibang dami kuda eh atleast sya ngtry sya magaapply sya ng other job may diskarte sya d lang pagaartista alam nyan ng good for him natanggap sya hindi yung paawa effect lng hingi dto hingi dun
ReplyDeleteTe nakakatuwa naman pero nakakaduda na project manager agad kahit wa experience un ung comment namin.
DeleteHappy for him, nakakagulat lang na first time sa BPO, Project Manager agad.
DeleteYung PM's sa napasukan kong kumpanya, ang bigatin ng credentials and experiences. Usually may Six Sigma pa.
Good for him, though. He was given a high paying position agad.
pero unfair sa iba na they had to start at the entry level positions before being a project manager compared to someone who had no previous experience
DeleteKawawa naman yung iba na ilang yrs dugo at pawis para sa career tapos itong walang experience, managerial position kaagad.
DeleteJust because you can't believe it doesn't mean it can't happen. Ang awayin niyo yung HR na nag hire. Ni hindi niyo pa nga alam ang buomg kwento e. Maging masaya na lang para sa iba, no ofs and buts. Unless government position yan na kailangan ng civil service eligibility. Pero private company naman so wala tayo magagawa dun.
Delete1:46 Who told you life is fair?
DeletePM agad? Galing naman. Samantalang ako 14 years sa IT bago naging manager.
ReplyDeletesana all may position agad.
ReplyDeleteProject manager agad kasi considered gwapo ka sa BPO industry. Yikes
ReplyDeleteDiko sya kaano ano pero I would be proud na naghanap sya ng decent work.
ReplyDeleteAng daming galit. As if inagawan nya kayo ng work o salary. Mga talangka talaga
Not talangka. Most of us are decent employees who speak for the majority na ni hindi man lang makausad sa position nila kahit dekada na sa trabaho. Then here comes your idol Juancho who has nothing to offer but his face then uungusan pa yung well experienced talaga. Siguro wala ka pang work noh kaya you didn’t get the point?
Delete222 hindi ka pa va nasanay gaano ja unfair at corrupt sa Pinas. At dapat sa lahat ng bagay may backer ka kundi wlang mangyayari sayo.
Delete2:22 Juancho is a college graduate who had years of experience in dealing with people of various classes. Nag host siya for a morning show. Malay naman natin kung special project yung binigay sa kanyang work. Wag triggered agad. Know the facts fitst
Delete1:10 obviously di ka nagwork sa BPO company. There are reasons as to why you see such comments. Pagnagwork ka sa BPO, you'll know that you have to start at an entry level and work your way up. Unless siguro anak ka ng may ari ng kumpanya. Regardless, it will still leave a bad taste sa mga taong experienced at matagal na sa kumpanya. Ganyan sa IT corporate world and they are not being talangka. He should be ashamed sa totoo lang.
Delete2:22 Hindi makausad, bakit kaya? Maybe check your performance? Di sapat na dahilan ang tagal sa trabaho para mapromote ka. I’m speaking from POV of an employer of a private company. Kung magaling ka talaga at feel mo shortchanged ka , please don’t waste more time at masasayang ka lang sa current company mo.
DeleteHmm title lang yan pero baka actual work is project coordinator something like that. Wag kayo nega, be happy for others who find ways. Wow bdo?! Hehe
ReplyDeleteMas madaming deserving sa position na hindi sya nagtagal.
Delete8:21 pwedeng di siya nagtagal sa position dahil sa mga toxic na kasama. Yun mga kagaya niyo. Also, who are you to say na hindi sya deserving? Ni hindi mo nga alam kung ano exactly ang work na binigay sa kanya.
DeleteSinong ninong nagpapasok at project manager agad ang position
ReplyDeleteSo pag may offer na ulit ang gma sakanya, reresign sya dyan sa work na yan?
ReplyDelete1:19 read the last sentence, di daw nagtagal.
Deleteok at least naghanap ng work pero grabeng pistion nya w/o experience pa yan ha.project manager talaga.
ReplyDeleteAnd what’s your qualifications to become PM agad agad? Questionable ang HR ng company na yan ha!
ReplyDeleteBaka babaeng mahilig sa artista baks.
DeleteGrabe lumalabas talaga crab mentality ng mga Pinoy sa comments palang dito tsk tsk
ReplyDeleteObviously, hindi ka pa nakapag trabaho sa BPO.
DeleteCrab mentality? I see an unjust system.
DeleteKay Juancho na mismo nanggaling na wala syang experience sa ganyan. Alamin mo muna girl ang qualifications ng isang Project Manager sa BPO bago ka kumuda ng crab crab nya yan.
DeleteLowkey bragging yung first time in a corporate setting eh manager agad ๐
ReplyDelete1:54 Depende yan sa perception ng nagbabasa. Kung insecure ka, you would think na bragging ang lahat ng sinasabi ng iba.
Deletesobrang laki ng hawig nila ni Sam YG.. they can pass for cousins hehe. I guess may certain type si Joyce :)
ReplyDeleteSa bpo number 1 yun confidence. He has that and a degree. He could be entry level project manager. Susko. Tatalangka mag isip. Bash dto bash dun.pag mag work at pinagmalaki ma mag work, humble brag. Pag nanghimgi privileged at tamad.
ReplyDeleteKahit first level pa yan baks its a managerial position in a BPO.
DeleteHuh? Pinagsasabi mo, maraming may degree sa bpo at umaapaw sa confidence pero sa agent nag uumpisa hindi PM. Straight your facts bago kumuda!
DeleteEntry level na project manager? Doesn't work that way dear. You dont apply in a company with no experience and become a project manager just coz your are confident. And yes, he's bragging. PM agad? Haha. It's not something nice to brag about. Obviously he doesn't know how BPO works dyan palang sa pagpost nya na PM sya. So he doesn't deserve it, thus the comments.
Delete9:10 Ah so alam mo ang pamamalakad ng lahat lahat lahat ng BPO sa Pilipinas? YOU straighTEN out your facts.
DeleteWhen you got me sa finding an alternative during pandemic kesa nganey then you bragged about getting a high position in corporate with 0 experience in the next statement. Epic fail yung bragging mo ๐
ReplyDeleteSa mga ngsasabing Crab mentality, nagwowork ba kayo sa BPO industry? try nyo magresearch usually ilang years dpt ang exp. mo sa bpo world bago ka maging PM kaya unfair talaga yan. Meh, showbiz eme tsk tsk
ReplyDeleteMga nakakakita lang naman ng "talangka" yung mga tamad magwork. Kung goal getter ka, kitang kita na mali talaga. Kudos to him for finding a job pero di na sana pinagmalaki.
Deletehahaha for sure job title lang ang project manager, ganyan kasi sa BPO. Eh samin nga may executive ang JOb title. For sure most comments here hindi alam ang takbo sa BPO and how they will tagged you sa role.
ReplyDeleteEh kaso ang daming nag cocomment na nasa bpo industry, sis.
DeleteMadaming types ng bpo. Di porket sa iba ang project manager eh maegerial position na, sa ibang companies ganoon din. Yung ibang project manager nga temp positions lang sa iba.
Delete2:24, you make no sense. Senseless ka.
DeletePansin ko lang... Yung mga inis, nasa BPO hierarchy din ba kayo? Hm... kinda shows the ethic kasi. You don't trash a person because he/she has no experience, instead you help them learn. Well, Art kasi field ko, so wala masyadong hilahaan/siraan. Instead, kopyahan hehe!
ReplyDeleteHindi naman sya entry level for you to stay that they "trash" him for having no experience. Basa ka ulit mamsh.
DeleteHelp them learn? Managerial position yan. Kahit entry level pa yan need pa din yan ng experience
DeleteHa anong pinagsasabi ng iba dito na project manager AGAD? Eh pwede rin namang entry level yun. Kahit fresh grad pwede mapasok as project manager. Akala nyo ata "manager" as in mataas na ranggo na
ReplyDeleteYung inapplyan ko manager yung title pwedeng without experience pero dapat with latin honors nung college. Ganun ba sya?
DeleteBaka as in specific 'Project Manager' for a specific short-term project lang? Tsaka graduate naman siya ng isa sa big 4 universities. Hindi naman din siya nagtagal kaya maging happy na lang tayo for him kesa naman magsugal siya at mamalimos ng pera online noh
ReplyDeleteImpressive, baka magaling lang talaga siya. BPO din ako noon, yung mga kasabayan kong mga fresh grads na mga dean's lister, scholar, children of CEOs, etc. nag-start talaga sa entry level positions.
ReplyDeleteI am proud of him na naghanap siya ng work pero kasi nakakapagtaka talaga na maging project manager ka if wala kang experience sa BPO or kahit anong corporate background. Hindi yun pambabash. For sure kasi maraming naapakan na mga tenured worker sa conpany na yun na nagpakahirap for a few years pero sa newbie binigay ang position. Maaaring hindi naman fault ni Juancho yun pero ang kino call out ng mga tao dito is yung HR bakit porke artista at guwapo manager agad. Hindi yun crab mentality. It’s caling out the injustice and unfairness of what happened.
ReplyDeleteGanun talaga buhay sis, yung iba, months palang tagal showbiz, big role agad. Yung iba ten years na, starlet padin. Kanya kanya tayo ng destiny.
DeleteKapag may artistang ayaw magbanat ng buto gagalet kayo.
ReplyDeletePag may artistang naghanap ng work gagalet padin kayo hahaha anyare mga mamsh?
Lol, manager na pala siya agad, e wala namang experience or knowledge. Kaloka diba.
Delete2:52, Shut up. You are missing the point. Get real baks.
Deleteobvious na rin bakit mabilis nag-end, no exp kasi tapos management level na agad
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ReplyDeleteMinsan title lang din yan, pero the work is comparable to normal rank and file.
ReplyDeleteOne account here in our company and title ng agents, logistics manager (B2B for a global shipping company) pero taga-track at encode sila ng orders, they don't really manage people.
16 yrs in BPO company here. wag po kayong magtaka if na hire sya as project manager agad. most of the accounts in a BPO needs someone who have a knowledge in marketing stuff or maybe an exposure to media. Project manager is a position that needs to think of a process improvement para tumaas sales or any strategies para ma meet demands ng client. Maybe my potential sya para dun. and when he said hindi tumagal kasi possible na for project basis lang sya not contractual pero we hired someone temporarily dahil nga may project na need ma achieve ung gusto ng client. kaya sa mga nega dyan at walang alam sa kalakaran ng BPO company quiet na lang po kayo - HR Manager
ReplyDeleteSa company namin may position na Project Manager 1, fancy name lang ung pero prang trainee palang sya, ino-oversee padin ng senior project manager. Kung baga parang assistant nya.
ReplyDeleteTalaga, kawawa naman.
ReplyDeleteHindi naman bago Kung mabilis siyang umakyat sa corporate ladder. Unfair talaga ang Mundo. Imagine silang mga artista halos 5 oras lang sa set pero nakaka six figure na sahod Samantalang ang mga ibang staff and crew e minimum wage kahit 24 oras nagtatrabaho.
ReplyDeleteSaan ba yang bpo na yan. I worked in bpo for two years before I quit but it’s impossible to move to up that fast kasi there are so many more with many years of experience before you.
ReplyDeleteDami namang galit dito. Pwede namang title lang ung project manager and project basis lang. May degree naman siya and paano kung people person naman sya. Maging masaya na lang kayo na nag try siya mag work nung walang wala kaysa manghingi ng donation. Nag work ako sa bpo and shared services dati pero hindi naman nega tingin ko sa post na to
ReplyDeleteHirap na hirap kayo maging PM tas isisisi nyo galet nyo sa taong PM agad hahaha
ReplyDeleteFlex ko lang mga mamsh, 3mos lang ako sa first job ko na promote agad ako to PM. More almost 15yrs nako nagwowork. 3companies, flex ko lang ulit na lahat abox PM inabot kong role/title/post
At wala akong backer at graduate ako ng state university.
Kaya wag nyo ijudge yung mga taong mas nabigyan ng magandang opportunity kesa sa inyo.
May mga magagaling talaga like me since birth hahaha
Love it!!!
DeleteSelf-praise is no praise.
Delete3:08 she's clearly joking. Tinamaan ka ba sa sinabi niya?! Hahahahaha
Deletebaka seasonal account lang kaya project manager agad tas di nagtagal
ReplyDeleteBitter niyo guys, baka naman "title" lang yan. Ako nga fresh grad, nakapasok ako sa company, "auditor" agad ang posisyon pero pang fresh grad talaga siya. Sino ba kase nagsabi sainyong magtagal ng ten years sa isang company as entry level?? Pwede naman magapply sa iba.
ReplyDeleteDaming bitter. O ngayon kayo ang mag artista Dali Para maexperience niyo Yan..
ReplyDeleteKa officemate ko po si Juancho, and yung post nya is just for a temporary project lang kaya sya nakuha even without managerial experience. Sana po maging malinaw na.
ReplyDeleteMabait ba sya sis? at gwapo in person? hihi
DeleteIn my company, our project managers are not bosses in the traditional sense. They create and keep track of project plans, make sure tasks are completed according to schedule, and raise alarms if they’re not. So yes, someone fresh from college can function as a project manager. That title doesn’t mean you’re above everyone else.
ReplyDeleteBago pa maka graduate si Juancho, he’s been starting and running businesses of his own. So it’s not like wala siyang experience sa management. He’s fit to run a project
ReplyDeletemaging masaya na lang po tayo - questionable pa dahil fresh grad. humanap ng paraan, nag trabaho ng marangal.
ReplyDeleteIn my company, our project managers are not bosses in the traditional sense. They create and keep track of project plans, make sure tasks are completed according to schedule, and raise alarms if they’re not. So yes, someone fresh from college can function as a project manager. That title doesn’t mean you’re above everyone else. ---- YES!! Project Managers do not have people working under them. They are Individual Contributors sa company. Nakakaloka. Ang nenega ng mga tao dito! Dun kayo kay Ping Medina!
ReplyDeleteSana hindi na lang nya sinabi na Proj Manager sya, it made people question tuloy the BPO company.
ReplyDeletehe applied and got hired bakit kayo galit sa kanya? magalit kayo sa naghire? lol and if the HR thinks that he is qualified enough to do a "project manager" job in a BPO na depende naman sa account kung anong role ang ganap ng PM then its okay. as long as he did his job. di sya tumagal then he gained experience so next time na mag apply sya may experience na sya dba. that is how employment works naman dapat dba? kesehodang fresh grad or not as long as you are qualified then go. baka naman kasi fresh grad is accepted sa condition ng application... galet agad kayo? crying unfair? unfair naman talaga ang mundo mga sis tanggapin na natin.galit na galit kayo sa mga negastars pero kayo din nega.
ReplyDeleteHey guys chill. I was in BPO for more than 10yrs. Not all Project Manager titles are managerial level or managing teams/manpower. Some BPO's have project managers as entry level positions. These companies are usually on data processing/back end. They still go through training and some would be regularized, some won't. Hindi lang call center / phone calls ang BPO. Let's just be happy that BPO's are still hiring despite the pandemic.
ReplyDeleteDaming kuda ng mga ka-FP, isang search lang naman sa linkedin makikita nyo na anong company ang nag hire.
ReplyDeleteSo many nega comments. At least nag apply at nagtrabaho ng marangal yung tao ano, it's not like he got a cushy job na tatamadtamad lang at walang ginagawa.
ReplyDeleteDaming bitter. Nagtrabaho nang marangal, sasabihin may backer lang. Nag online limos, sasabihin ang tamad, bakit di nagtrabaho, artista yan syempre maraming tatanggap dyan. Pero pag ginamit ang pagka artista para makakuha ng work, magagalit pa rin. Ano ba.
ReplyDeleteBPO employee here! Hello po, his title may sound BIG because of “Manager”, but sometimes it’s just a title.. we have account managers or project managers but they are also staff (rank & file) levels. Maybe it just means he’s handling a certain project or account in the company. Like in ours for example, our corp department handles companies so they assign a certain staff to handle the needs of one company, they’re like the contact or liaison officer.. ganern..
ReplyDeleteYeah, literal na nagmamanage ng account!
DeleteExactly. Akala nila agad mala OM or site director yun position. Pag B2B ang bpo, project manager ang tawag sa mga naghahandle nb clients. Also, in IT ang nagcoconnect ng client and tech people is called a project manager. He sees the project through.
DeleteAndami namang inggitero sa Pilipinas! Omg! Shocking! Can't you all be happy to see a person do a decent job? Lol!
ReplyDeleteSa US kahit po kahit kakagraduate lang tinatanggap na manager. Halos karamihan sa company na manager kakagraduate lang. Equal opportunity may experience o wala. Sa Pinas lang naman yung sobrang higpit pagdating sa qualifications.
ReplyDeleteOA mo! Hello depende naman kung anong company! Pwede ka ba biglang maging auditing manager, internal communication manager or logistics operations manager kung bagong graduate ka lang? Siguro kung shift manager sa mga stores or fast food pwede pa.
DeleteSa mga pictures, it seems that he is in charge of advertising…media mileage where he has an experience so I will understand kung maging project manager siya. Maybe it’s also for a short-lived project lang din kasi di naman kailangan na palaging may advertising na ganyan kabongga ang BPO- BPO Recruitment Manager
ReplyDeleteDaming hanash ng iba
ReplyDeleteDito sa States kahit walang experience ang mga Degree holders pasa sa interview me trabaho kaagad
Mga Engineer graduate hindi pa nakuha diploma tapos na EXAM pag aplay tanggap na.
MARAMING TRABAHO DITO SA STATES!!!
Dyan sa Pinas sobrang taas ng standard na kapag oras ng trabaho
1. TSISMISAN
2. CELLPHONE
at KULANG SA CUSTOMER SERVICE at hindi alam ang MULTI-TASKING
Kung ano lang assigned na job yun lang ginagawa not beyond to accommodate the customers.
Irap irapan pa ang customer ha ha ha ha
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Shut up. We are in pinas. Gets mo.
DeleteMay naka work ba siya dito mga classmate?
ReplyDeleteHahahahaha, Kaloka ang explanation nang iba dito. Project manager daw pero it’s not really a boss or management. Ano ba yan, gawa gawa lang. lol.
ReplyDelete6:09 project ang imamanage, not necessarily tao. And yes, pwedeng mag gawa gawa ng kumpanya, prerogative nila yun.
Deleteang daming hanash dto. BPO since 1998. Nag OM, Nag Director. nag workforce, nag recruitment. Minsan, pinapaganda yun tawag sa isang role para maiba or dahil sa company culture. Hindi porke sinabing Project Manager. MANAGER talga in the truest sense of the word. Minsan Client Success Manager, pero customer service pa din yun level 1. yun walang alam wag hanash ng hanash. Yun BPO tatanggap yan ng walang experience. Yun BPO, mag popromote ng hindi ganon kagaling performance. Ano ba palagay nyo sa BPO? tenured lang ang hinahire? Magaling lang hinahire? Hindi ba marami satin ang mindset na "ay callcenter ka lang?" dahil marami satin ang hindi mataas ang tingin sa nagtatrabaho sa BPO. Tapos, porke artista na nakapasok as project manager kung mag react mga basher kala mo nmn dinaya nya agad at in question agad ang integridad ng kumpanya. n
ReplyDeleteAng daming nagrereklamo ditona sinasabit bias daw at unfair.... iyon ngang dating presidente nang america, walang experience sa politika pero naging presidente.
ReplyDeleteMga council sa IATF mga di naman doctor e sila nagplaplano sa pandemic.
Sa mga nagsasabing di nangyayari sa USA yn..... hello!!!!? Kapag magaling ka sa undergrad mo kahit wala kang experience pwede kang derecho managerial o sa executive ka agad.
O sha sha, Time is up! Juancho’s 15 minutes of fame is done lol. Balik starlet na uli sya ๐
ReplyDeleteQue one man team or may nilelead talaaga syang team. For sure suportado sya ng subordinates nia kasi artista. Lalo na ang mga girls at gays. Hahaha...
ReplyDeleteWow, good work Juancho!
ReplyDeleteBachelors degree holder, no prev experience tapos manager agad? San yan?
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