It doesn’t make sense anymore. Why can’t they just have their own pageant? And some people want to make a woman play James Bond. Please stop the world so I can get off.
Huwaw utak backwards tlga ang iba imbes na forward thinking. Transwomen are women cos un po ang nararamdaman nila. Kung di kayo ganun di nyo maiintindihan
ITO LANG IYON. THE MISS UNIVERSE ORGANIZATION ALLOWS TRANSWOMEN TO JOIN THEIR PAGEANT. SO IT'S THEIR PAGEANT, IT'S THEIR RULES. KUNG AYAW NATIN, E DI HUWAG MANOOD, HUWAG SUMOPORTA. GANUN LANG KASIMPLE!
too much. speaking as part of the silent majority. i have a lot of gay friends who know their place in their society and are confident of themselves. gays don’t need to join beauty contests for women, they can have their own. nayayapakan na rin ang pagkababae namin sa ganito. it’s almost like being told na lahat na pwede sumali sa beauty pageant.
2:13 don’t you get the point? sila sila mismo iba iba ang tawag when in reality they are all biologically men or women. sila sila mismo do not like to be called gay because they’d rather be called different. ung lgbt umabot na hanggang saang letra at numero. may lugar ang lahat sa mundo, pero wag naman abusado.
2:13 it will take centuries to twist the thoughts of the majority. it’s either man, woman or neither. wag na natin gawin kumplikado, mas maraming mahalaga kaysa dyan.
Iba ang gay sa transwoman 12:36 dun pa lang sablay ka na at yung "who know their place in the society" doesn't sound good so may placing pala dapat? Saan ka, sa mas mataas tapos ang lgbtqia+ nasa baba?
Sports - I partially agree with 2:13 AM. Mas malakas physically ang mga lalaki so they will have an undue advantage in sports. This part has nothing to do with equality or any ideals - just plain science. Even if they change their outside form, genetically they are males and have the physical strength of males so they should not be competing against women. Women who outpower them in terms of physical strength would only be exceptions to the rule.
12:36, you don’t even know the difference between gays and trans. There is a huge difference. They are not the same. Trans are not just gays playing dress up. They have gone through psychological and physical transformation, unlike the gays. They are not the same.
Sino ba nagset ng line na sinasabi mo? Tao lang din gumawa nyan, kaya tao lang din kayang magbago ng definition nyan. And based sa organizers ng pageant, allowed sila, so anong line ang sinasabi mong kinocross nila? Sarili mong standard? Sino ka para iimpose standard mo sa iba?
12:37, What line are you talking about? They are recognized as women psychologically, physically and hormonally. You can’t make excuses for your ignorance.
I think this is too much. Trans should not join the pageants for natural born women. They can have their own pageant. I have friends from LGBTQ pero huwag naman pati sa Miss U etc e kasali sila
Why seek validation from a beauty pageant intended for born women? Whether or not everyone agrees, a transwoman is different from naturally born women. Where is the line drawn? Equality means recognition and respect but isn't this disrespectful of "real" women (and by "real", those who have a V)?
right? actually kawawa kasi kailangan pa mangbypass ng mga babae para lang makakuha ng inaakala nyang validation. shaking my head for those who made this legal. i mean the world is not just about beauty pageants but for this to be presented as good news and all for gender equality is just so wrong in many aspects.
Bypass? Why? She joined there as a woman, not a man pretending to be a woman. And it's no secret she's trans. What's her advantage to the other women e pare-pareho naman silang babae. Mas advantaged pa yung mga straight na babae because they don't have to suffer all their lives just so they can live as a woman. And beauty pageants are for validation. Lahat ng sunasali diyan they want validation - straight or trans. Bakit pa sila sasali diba kung ayaw nila ipakita ang ganda at katawan nila to be watched by millions.
Umm sorry pero dapat pa dn may sarili silang competition.. they’re fighting for equality and right dba? Same thing with real women.. alala ko tuloy may trans sa mma nag compete vs ladies lol.. that’s what they call “equality”? 🤦🏻♂️
Ibang level of equality naman ang hinihingi ng mga sisters natin under the rainbow, sana alam din nila kung saan sila lulugar when it comes to beaucons na made for natural women. Well, just saying.
Walang kadiri dito 4:24am, we respect and love lgbt++++ community, but they should know dapat kung hanggang saan lang sila not to cross the line furthermore... Ganyan ba kababa ang self esteem nila that they really have to cross the boundaries pa talaga?
6:11 who the hell are you para mag set ng boundaries? Sino ka? Live and let live. May nangyaring masama ba sa buhay mo ngayong may trans na sasaki sa Miss USA?? Wala naman kaya ibigay mo na sa tao na nag effort ng bongga para makamit ang pangarap nya. Lahat tayo ay pantay pantay lamang.
4:24 I feel you. Kadiri talaga. Comments like 'lumugar sila'or 'hanggang dito lang sila' - dictates by straight people who know nothing of the journey and struggle of transwomen. Even questioming the self esteem as if it's exclusive to trans!! So pag straight sa beaucon walang self-esteem issues? Pag trans meron kaya sumasali? Thosd statements speaks more about these dictator and the cruel soceity, rather than than trans people themselves.
This is disrespectful to women who were born as women. Gay ako pero naman, tama na tong mga prequalify eh di naan Malaga equal ang trans sa woman. Malika. kayo nga may trans sa saluting trans woman.
5:44, yikes, that’s very ignorant of you. Trans are not gays. Trans are the genders they are based on how they feel and see themselves as, and facilitated by their brains and fulfilled by the use of the right hormones.
Not against sa lgbt community pero gusto nyo equal rights diba? Sa pagsali sa beaucon ng para sa mga natural born women, diba parang tinanggalan nyo na rin ng equality mga babae nyan? Alam ko may internationa pageant pra sa mga trans e, bakit di nalang dun sumali?
What’s a natural born woman? If you give a natural born woman male hormones, her body will turn into a male body, diba. So your argument is very flawed.
Ang sasabihin ko lang, manood kayo ng Olympics sa July. May transgender weightlifter doon named Lauren Hubbard who's from New Zealand. If you still think that trans women are women then what stops them from competing against women? People are equal in dignity but you can't change your sex. Therefore a man cannot be a woman and vice versa. Ewan ko sa inyo lahat na lang kasi transphobic sa inyo kaya feeling niyo parati inaapi kayo kayo naman ang mali.
8:07, you are very wrong. Gender is all about hormones and how the brain is wired. By using the appropriate hormones, you can harmonize the body with the brain. Gets mo. Get educated.
Sorry ha, parang to give way to rights of everyone minsan yung mga biologically female naman ang natatapakan. Like in the case of allowing ppl sa female restroom, like they should be free to go sa gender na they idetify - have you asked women how that makes us feel? About pageantry, equality means everyone having their own rights and place. So they should have a pageant for themselves. Iba iba. Isa isa.
Ever heard of David Reimer? He was born a male but a botched circumcision he had as a child caused the removal of his penis. His parents decided to rename him as Brenda and raised him as a girl. Pinalaklak siya ng mga hormones, pinagbihis babae and all. But all those time, he felt disconnected sa body niya. Hindi siya masaya and very confused growing up until he learned the truth and eventually accepted his true self - a male. Ganun din sa transwoman. They feel disconnected sa ari nila kasi ang kaluluwa babae talaga sila kahit ano ikahon pa sila ng society. They suffer in trying to comply and they will only be happy as human beings once they live their true selves. Kung di naman nila ginagambala ang pamumuhay mo, I don't see the need na pakialaman ang buhay nila.
Girl parang hindi connected sa issue kasi ito may given situation na. Kataluna is not a private person anymore. Kataluna is joining a beauty contest. For women. Obviously may mangingialam na. Gets?
Yun na nga yung point ni 2:38, in reverse lang! People are born the way they are! So yung sinasabi niyong "transwomen ay lalaki parin" ay mali kasi babae talaga sila sa puso at diwa, regardless of ari. Lalabas at lalabas yung totoong siya. Si David feel niya lalaki parin siya all those years kasi hindi mo maiiba kung ano ka. Yung mga straight diyan, feel niyo ba na may mali kasi straight ka? Choice mo ba maging straight? Pinagisipan mo ba at nagdecide ka maging straight? Hindi diba? Kasi nga natural yun sayo. Even mga gays na naghormone, eventually they will stop and feel na hormone is not for them and they will just live a normal gay life. For some, they feel more at home with themselves when they take hormones. Nobody can dictate kung sino ka dapat.
Beauty pageants are fine anyway contestants are judged based on physical appearance and even natural born women have turned to doctors to confirm with the generally accepted standard of beauty.
What I have a problem with is sports. If transwomen compete, they should compete in either male or mixed gender sports but not as women. Even if they have more curves than JLo, they were still born men and have the physical strength of men. Women will be at a disadvantage in terms of physical strength when it comes to men. Only a few women can outpower men and that's because they have more testosterone than the average woman. So bathrooms, beauty pageants - transwomen are welcome. Sports for women, NO and this is not based on an ideal or belief - it's based on science.
3:16, you are so wrong. They do allow trans is sports but they have to be subjected to a testosterone test before and after the competition to make sure that the readings are within accepted limits equal to natural born women. That gives the trans no advantage. Know the facts.
Although di ako payag dito pero grabe ang ganda nyaaaaaa!! Walang bakas ng kahapon (base sa pic)
ReplyDeleteHndi din
DeleteI can see bakas ng kahapon at first glimpse
Delete3:39 Saan dyan baks? Nasabi mo lang yan kasi sinabi na sa title. However i agree na dun na lang sila sa sarili nilang pageant sana. Beke nemen.
DeleteIt doesn’t make sense anymore. Why can’t they just have their own pageant? And some people want to make a woman play James Bond. Please stop the world so I can get off.
ReplyDeleteSuper agree. This is no longer an “equality” issue.
DeleteThe world doesn’t revolve around you.
DeleteYou can get off anytime.
Korek. Tapos dadating ang time kapag walang nanalo na trans, sasabihin discrimination or dinaya 🙄
DeleteHina ng comprehension ni 2:52. It’s more than what you think it is. Go figure please.
DeleteHuwaw utak backwards tlga ang iba imbes na forward thinking. Transwomen are women cos un po ang nararamdaman nila. Kung di kayo ganun di nyo maiintindihan
DeleteITO LANG IYON. THE MISS UNIVERSE ORGANIZATION ALLOWS TRANSWOMEN TO JOIN THEIR PAGEANT. SO IT'S THEIR PAGEANT, IT'S THEIR RULES. KUNG AYAW NATIN, E DI HUWAG MANOOD, HUWAG SUMOPORTA. GANUN LANG KASIMPLE!
Delete12:35, you are still playing the they and us game baks. That’s too uneducated and outdated. Educate yourself first.
Delete12:35, the world doesn’t belong to you. All kinds of people deserve to be here as well. Get over yourself. You are not special.
Deletetoo much. speaking as part of the silent majority. i have a lot of gay friends who know their place in their society and are confident of themselves. gays don’t need to join beauty contests for women, they can have their own. nayayapakan na rin ang pagkababae namin sa ganito. it’s almost like being told na lahat na pwede sumali sa beauty pageant.
ReplyDeleteIba naman ang gay sa transwoman teh,pinagsasabi mo.
DeleteSame with the opinion of my gay friends. Lalo na yubg transwoman na isinasali sa sports ng women. Nakakaloka po.
DeleteAs a woman, let me say that 12:36 AM doesn't speak for me.
Delete"gay friends who know their place in their society"
"nayayapakan na rin ang pagkababae namin sa ganito"
Uh, you might as well be a male chauvinist.
2:13 don’t you get the point? sila sila mismo iba iba ang tawag when in reality they are all biologically men or women. sila sila mismo do not like to be called gay because they’d rather be called different. ung lgbt umabot na hanggang saang letra at numero. may lugar ang lahat sa mundo, pero wag naman abusado.
Delete2:13 iba ang gay sa transwoman. mas iba ang gay at transwoman sa 100% woman. please lang.
Delete2:13 it will take centuries to twist the thoughts of the majority. it’s either man, woman or neither. wag na natin gawin kumplikado, mas maraming mahalaga kaysa dyan.
DeleteIba ang gay sa transwoman 12:36 dun pa lang sablay ka na at yung "who know their place in the society" doesn't sound good so may placing pala dapat? Saan ka, sa mas mataas tapos ang lgbtqia+ nasa baba?
Deleteiba ang gay sa transwoman - speaks how kayo kayo mismo sa lgbtq community cannot get your point across dahil ayaw nyo maassociate sa isa’t isa.
DeleteBeauty pageants - transwomen can join.
DeleteSports - I partially agree with 2:13 AM. Mas malakas physically ang mga lalaki so they will have an undue advantage in sports. This part has nothing to do with equality or any ideals - just plain science. Even if they change their outside form, genetically they are males and have the physical strength of males so they should not be competing against women. Women who outpower them in terms of physical strength would only be exceptions to the rule.
12:36, it just shows your ignorance and personal bigotry. By law they are recognized as women, psychologically and physically. What’s your excuse?
Delete12:36, you don’t even know the difference between gays and trans. There is a huge difference. They are not the same. Trans are not just gays playing dress up. They have gone through psychological and physical transformation, unlike the gays. They are not the same.
Delete4:40
DeleteFollowing your logic, If transwomen and gays are different, then how come a TRANSWOMEN IS THE SAME AS WOMEN?
It's nice to be fair and equal, but let us not as well cross the line.
ReplyDeleteBe forward thinking po hindi pabaliktad. Transwomen are women on the inside.
DeleteSino ba nagset ng line na sinasabi mo? Tao lang din gumawa nyan, kaya tao lang din kayang magbago ng definition nyan. And based sa organizers ng pageant, allowed sila, so anong line ang sinasabi mong kinocross nila? Sarili mong standard? Sino ka para iimpose standard mo sa iba?
Delete12:37, What line are you talking about? They are recognized as women psychologically, physically and hormonally. You can’t make excuses for your ignorance.
DeleteSorry pero pati mga natural born women inagawan niyo na. Kawawa yung mga babae lalo na sa sports. Kaloka kayo.
ReplyDeleteIm all in for trans rights pero parang lugi mga women dito 😅 Can they have their own pageant?
ReplyDeleteThey already do pero di pa din daw enough bes . Comply or else!
Delete1:53, Lol, if you can’t compete with trans, then you don’t deserve to be there baks.
DeleteI think this is too much. Trans should not join the pageants for natural born women. They can have their own pageant. I have friends from LGBTQ pero huwag naman pati sa Miss U etc e kasali sila
ReplyDeleteSo saan sa mga SuperSireyna? O Miss TransInternational/Multiverse?
Deletealam mo naman pala 1:50. mas marami pang pageant sila sa totoo lang kaysa sa women.
Delete2:50 Oo doon sila pwede.wala namang masama. Gawin lang nilang maganda at classy yung pageant nila
Delete2:50 pwede
Delete1:56, they are recognized as women by law so how can you discriminate against them?
DeleteThis is too much
ReplyDeleteNo, you are too uneducated lang.
Delete2:13, too much only for the ignorant and bigoted.
DeleteWhy seek validation from a beauty pageant intended for born women? Whether or not everyone agrees, a transwoman is different from naturally born women. Where is the line drawn? Equality means recognition and respect but isn't this disrespectful of "real" women (and by "real", those who have a V)?
ReplyDeleteright? actually kawawa kasi kailangan pa mangbypass ng mga babae para lang makakuha ng inaakala nyang validation. shaking my head for those who made this legal. i mean the world is not just about beauty pageants but for this to be presented as good news and all for gender equality is just so wrong in many aspects.
Deletemaking these things legal all the more discourages gender inequality. it just contradicts self contentment.
DeleteBypass? Why? She joined there as a woman, not a man pretending to be a woman. And it's no secret she's trans. What's her advantage to the other women e pare-pareho naman silang babae. Mas advantaged pa yung mga straight na babae because they don't have to suffer all their lives just so they can live as a woman. And beauty pageants are for validation. Lahat ng sunasali diyan they want validation - straight or trans. Bakit pa sila sasali diba kung ayaw nila ipakita ang ganda at katawan nila to be watched by millions.
Delete2:16, Trans women are legally and hormonally women. Your arguments are so bigoted and ignorant.
Delete4:28 there is nothing bigotry about what 2:16 said
DeleteUmm sorry pero dapat pa dn may sarili silang competition.. they’re fighting for equality and right dba? Same thing with real women.. alala ko tuloy may trans sa mma nag compete vs ladies lol.. that’s what they call “equality”? 🤦🏻♂️
ReplyDeleteAs a woman, I'm more concerned with why beauty pageants persist in this day and age versus transwomen joining.
ReplyDeleteIf any, the irony of transwomen wanting to join beauty pageants is what I find bemusing.
But yeah sure, they can join - why not.
Ibang level of equality naman ang hinihingi ng mga sisters natin under the rainbow, sana alam din nila kung saan sila lulugar when it comes to beaucons na made for natural women. Well, just saying.
ReplyDeleteCongrats!
ReplyDeleteSana manalo ka sa Ms. USA para maguluhan, mainis, magwala, at mag-iiyak ang mga insekyorang transphobic 😅
be careful what you wish for. iba ang kamandag ng mga trolls at bashers baka hindi nya makayanan
Delete"phobic" sorry, people who has differing opinions are NOT afraid of them. Trans people do not run the world.
DeletePlease naman hindi ako homophobic pero ibigay natin sa mga babae ang para sa mga babae.
ReplyDeleteTranswomen are women. Miss U is for women. I dont see anything wrong.
ReplyDeleteWhere's the equality for the natural born women here? Puro sa inyo yung hinahanap nyo equality.
DeleteKadiri comments dito. Filipinos are so myopic
ReplyDeleteWalang kadiri dito 4:24am, we respect and love lgbt++++ community, but they should know dapat kung hanggang saan lang sila not to cross the line furthermore... Ganyan ba kababa ang self esteem nila that they really have to cross the boundaries pa talaga?
Delete6:11 who the hell are you para mag set ng boundaries? Sino ka? Live and let live. May nangyaring masama ba sa buhay mo ngayong may trans na sasaki sa Miss USA?? Wala naman kaya ibigay mo na sa tao na nag effort ng bongga para makamit ang pangarap nya. Lahat tayo ay pantay pantay lamang.
Delete4:24 I feel you. Kadiri talaga. Comments like 'lumugar sila'or 'hanggang dito lang sila' - dictates by straight people who know nothing of the journey and struggle of transwomen. Even questioming the self esteem as if it's exclusive to trans!! So pag straight sa beaucon walang self-esteem issues? Pag trans meron kaya sumasali? Thosd statements speaks more about these dictator and the cruel soceity, rather than than trans people themselves.
DeleteGrabe nga nakaksad na madami pa ring by backwards mag isip
Delete6:11 AM - people who cross boundaries do not have low self esteem, it's the opposite.
Delete4:24, Yup. Still so much ignorance and backward thinking in pinas. They are all based on emotion, ignorance and bigotry. Not science and facts.
DeleteWow!
ReplyDeleteKasali 'to dati sa Super Sireyna Worldwide ng Eat Bulaga ng 2018
This is disrespectful to women who were born as women. Gay ako pero naman, tama na tong mga prequalify eh di naan Malaga equal ang trans sa woman. Malika. kayo nga may trans sa saluting trans woman.
ReplyDeleteIkaw po ang disrespectful sa gender orientation
Delete5:44, yikes, that’s very ignorant of you. Trans are not gays. Trans are the genders they are based on how they feel and see themselves as, and facilitated by their brains and fulfilled by the use of the right hormones.
DeleteNot against sa lgbt community pero gusto nyo equal rights diba? Sa pagsali sa beaucon ng para sa mga natural born women, diba parang tinanggalan nyo na rin ng equality mga babae nyan? Alam ko may internationa pageant pra sa mga trans e, bakit di nalang dun sumali?
ReplyDeleteWhat’s a natural born woman? If you give a natural born woman male hormones, her body will turn into a male body, diba. So your argument is very flawed.
DeleteAng sasabihin ko lang, manood kayo ng Olympics sa July. May transgender weightlifter doon named Lauren Hubbard who's from New Zealand. If you still think that trans women are women then what stops them from competing against women? People are equal in dignity but you can't change your sex. Therefore a man cannot be a woman and vice versa. Ewan ko sa inyo lahat na lang kasi transphobic sa inyo kaya feeling niyo parati inaapi kayo kayo naman ang mali.
ReplyDelete8:07, you are very wrong. Gender is all about hormones and how the brain is wired. By using the appropriate hormones, you can harmonize the body with the brain. Gets mo. Get educated.
Delete4:16 you can manipulate the hormones but never the chromosomes, GET EDUCATED
DeleteSorry ha, parang to give way to rights of everyone minsan yung mga biologically female naman ang natatapakan. Like in the case of allowing ppl sa female restroom, like they should be free to go sa gender na they idetify - have you asked women how that makes us feel? About pageantry, equality means everyone having their own rights and place. So they should have a pageant for themselves. Iba iba. Isa isa.
ReplyDelete8:10, That’s a very backward and ignorant argument. No educated person would even make those kinds of arguments.
Deletekung ganito dapat wala nang age requirement height requirement lahat sali na
ReplyDelete8:55, You make no sense at all.
DeleteBakit ba mahirap ibigay ng mga beks ang respeto sa mga totoong babae? Like, Im gay pero parang sumasapaw naman tayo nito. May pageant naman for us.
ReplyDeleteEver heard of David Reimer? He was born a male but a botched circumcision he had as a child caused the removal of his penis. His parents decided to rename him as Brenda and raised him as a girl. Pinalaklak siya ng mga hormones, pinagbihis babae and all. But all those time, he felt disconnected sa body niya. Hindi siya masaya and very confused growing up until he learned the truth and eventually accepted his true self - a male. Ganun din sa transwoman. They feel disconnected sa ari nila kasi ang kaluluwa babae talaga sila kahit ano ikahon pa sila ng society. They suffer in trying to comply and they will only be happy as human beings once they live their true selves. Kung di naman nila ginagambala ang pamumuhay mo, I don't see the need na pakialaman ang buhay nila.
ReplyDeleteGirl parang hindi connected sa issue kasi ito may given situation na. Kataluna is not a private person anymore. Kataluna is joining a beauty contest. For women. Obviously may mangingialam na. Gets?
Delete2:38, Wrong example. That was not his choice. True trans are born that way. That’s how their brains are wired. Know the facts.
DeleteYun na nga yung point ni 2:38, in reverse lang! People are born the way they are! So yung sinasabi niyong "transwomen ay lalaki parin" ay mali kasi babae talaga sila sa puso at diwa, regardless of ari. Lalabas at lalabas yung totoong siya. Si David feel niya lalaki parin siya all those years kasi hindi mo maiiba kung ano ka. Yung mga straight diyan, feel niyo ba na may mali kasi straight ka? Choice mo ba maging straight? Pinagisipan mo ba at nagdecide ka maging straight? Hindi diba? Kasi nga natural yun sayo. Even mga gays na naghormone, eventually they will stop and feel na hormone is not for them and they will just live a normal gay life. For some, they feel more at home with themselves when they take hormones. Nobody can dictate kung sino ka dapat.
DeleteBeauty pageants are fine anyway contestants are judged based on physical appearance and even natural born women have turned to doctors to confirm with the generally accepted standard of beauty.
ReplyDeleteWhat I have a problem with is sports. If transwomen compete, they should compete in either male or mixed gender sports but not as women. Even if they have more curves than JLo, they were still born men and have the physical strength of men. Women will be at a disadvantage in terms of physical strength when it comes to men. Only a few women can outpower men and that's because they have more testosterone than the average woman. So bathrooms, beauty pageants - transwomen are welcome. Sports for women, NO and this is not based on an ideal or belief - it's based on science.
3:16, you are so wrong. They do allow trans is sports but they have to be subjected to a testosterone test before and after the competition to make sure that the readings are within accepted limits equal to natural born women. That gives the trans no advantage. Know the facts.
DeleteHmmm, in fairness she looks way much better than most women I see. Her body is vavaboom good.
ReplyDeleteHmmm, I’m all for equality. I hope she wins. Bonga diba.
ReplyDeleteSerious question, pwede ba sumali ang totoong babae sa pageant ng mga trans? Wag niyo akong awayin, curious lang me.
ReplyDelete