diyos ko day ang linaw ng mga footage at mga litrato na nakunan na binaril niya ng harapan yung mag ina tapos hindi pa nahahahatulan hangang ngayon. Anong klaseng batas meron tayo at namumuno sa bansa natin nanahimik lang sa mga crimen na nangyayari sa bansa natin
Nakahambalang na yung dalawa sa sahig pinaputukan pa ulit, may intent talaga siyang pumatay not to mention wala siya sa lugar niya nandun sa territory ng victims and isa pa hindi naman siya tinutukan ng kutsilyo nung dalawang namatay diba? Na triggered lang siya dun sa sagutan nila. Hindi ko magets kung nasaan yung homicide dun.
Oo Ganun talaga trabaho ng lawyer . Kahit May kasalanan ka.. they will protect you . I forgot Anu tawag sa kanila basta Alam ko Meron. Yung cousin ko na lawyer had dead threats before kasi yung client niya makasalan and murderer talaga and yes napanalo naman niya ang case
1:09 in short she is saying na magaling na lawyer cousin niya. Biruin mo nabaligtad pa. Minsan kasi nagiging technicality, ikot ikot hanap butas para lang mapanalo ang case. Naalala ko movie na devils advocate ba yun? Kay keanu reeves, story ng magaling na lawyer
Ganyan talaga pag akala nilang maipaglalaban nila yung ginawa nila. It's pretty common for these thugs to plead not guilty. Ang importante, he will be found guilty at the end of the trial.
He pleaded not guilty kasi mdami po factors like pede siya mag file ng insanity, so pde iconsider yun sa not guilty plead. Yung nga lang, wala talaga siya konsensya.
Correct me if I’m wrong but pleading not guilty does not mean he’s saying he’s innocent. He’s just saying it’s not murder. He’s probably going for manslaughter. I don’t know what his defense is but I think they’re going for temporary insanity or “heat of the moment”. Hindi ako expert but I’ve been watching too many crime documentaries. Kasi for murder, I think it needs to have a planning element or intention sa simula pa lang. In short, nagmamarunong lang. lol.
Baka habol lang nitong kulugo na to na hindi sya mahatulan ng murder kasi habang buhay na pagkakakulong ang hatol nyan of guilty. Sa mga ganitong cases sana may death penalty o kaya ok na rin yung nanlaban na narrative.
2:02 i think may planning syang ginawa since kung balak lng niya pagalitan ang kapitbahay n nagboboga, hndi dapat sya magdadala ng baril. Also, bringing your own daughter as videographer or taga kuha ng video, it means n balak nya gamitin ang video for his self defense or ebidensya nya laban s kapitbahay (nanglaban or ang kapitbahay ang nauna and such)
Buti n lng at may tagakuha din ng video ang kabilang panig and kitang kita s video ang buong pangyayari. This include n ang daughter ang nagprovoke s kapitbahay.
2:02 I think you're right. Heat of the moment manslaughter ang ilalaban nila ng defence attorney niya kasi from the video he was triggered at dun na siya nang gigil. Lighter sentence ang gusto nila pero I hope not, guilty sana ihatol sa kanya para life imprisoment without parole.
T@n94 n lng ng judge kung maniwala n "heat of the moment" since kung tlgang heat of the moment, dapat umpisa plang wla n sya dalang baril and tagavideo
I’m 2:02. I’m not his sympathizer and I really want him to rot in jail for the rest of his life. I’m just looking at it from the criminal law na aspect. As far as I know, mas madali maipanalo ang manslaughter kysa murder and shorter ang trial period. We’re talking years here. Also from the side of the victims’ family, mas mahabang trial means financial burden sa side nila. For now, madami nakaabang pa sa case. May mga pulitikong nakiki ride on sa case nato which is beneficial for the family. But how about 2 or 3 years from now? They’d be left to deal with this. Also, bringing the daughter to the confrontation can work for either party. Nuezca can claim that the fact na dinala niya ang daughter niya means he never intended pumatay. Pagalingan na lang talaga ng arguments toh.
Pero mere words, no matter how offensive, are never adequate provocation. Sana itelevise ang hearing nito. Interesting kung pano idedefend ng mga attorney yung pulis.
Parang malabo kasi binaril niya TWICE not once. Gusto niya talaga mamatay yun dalawa. Isa pa, after shooting no signs of remorse talaga. Palusot lang yan. He’s fully aware of what he’s doing. Kasi kung temporary insanity pala, that means he is not fit to work as a police. Kung ganyan pala heat of the moment, ndi niya ma control emotions niya so papano kapag may confrontation maganap during work? So baril baril na lang dahil “heat of the moment”
Di raw pwede kasi pulis siya. Kung insanity plea papangit lalo image ng PNP kasi bakit sila tatanggap ng pulis na baliw or may mental disorder? Ano kaya palusot nila dyan
Aral aral po pag may time mga taartits. That's HIS plea. Okay. Alangan naman na i-plea nia na guilty sha. Lol. Karapatan nia yon na ipagtanggol ang sarili nia. Kahit sino namang suspect ganian din ang plea kahit na obvious naman na sila yung may sala. Kaya nga may hearing kasi papatunayan ng prosecutor na guilty yung suspect thru the evidences na na gathered. Itong mga artista na to oh. Makareact lang.
2:14 gurl, hndi kaba naturuan ng Good moral conduct or wla k bang konsensya?? Kasi Nuezca, have 2 cases before this and he never learn from it. Pang pyscho level n nga yta si Nuezca eh, since wla sya ng konsensya.
2:31 anong kailangang pag-aralan te? Ikaw na din nagsabi, HINDI LAHAT nagpi-plead ng not guilty yung iba may konsensya. Itong si Jonel walang konsensya. And whether we like it or not, right niyang magplead ng not guilty. May iba nga, hindi naman sila ang may kasalanan pero nagpi-plead sila ng guilty. Bakit? Para pagtakpan yung family (like anak na totoong gumawa ng krimen).
2:14 ikaw yata ang kailangan mag aral dyan. How insensitive, ignorant, and inhumane your comment is. Nakathree n sya which dapat una pa lng, kinulong n sya but since napaka unfair ng justice system, ilang beses n sya napapawalang sala and nakakabalik p s serbisyo. Minsan naman magpakatao k noh?
Gusto nyang malusutan ang murder dahil life sentence ang hatol dyan, syempre yung defense lawyer gagawa ng paraan yan para makakuha yan ng mas mababa ang sentensya
Ito yung kaso na viral ang ebidensiya at ibat-ibang anggulo pa ng video, pero sabi ng PNP hindi daw pwede gamitin ang video as an evidence. Wow, eh wow!
Eto kitang kita na sa video ang krimen, dami pang hinahanap na ebidensya. While sa isa, nasa hallway lang ang kuha pero sure na sure na sa suspek. 🤦🏼♂️
magkaiba kc ang factors na tinitignan sa murder at homicide. mahirap iprove na pinagplanuhan nyang patayin from d very beginning. ang habol nila mababang sentence at mas pasok ang kaso nya sa homicide.
Hindi porke may naipakitang ebidensya e pwedeng gamitin po un. may process po para maging admissible ang mga bagay bagay as evidence. kulang lang po sila ng paliwanag pero tama po sila na para magamit na evidence e dapat pumayag muna ung kumuha ng video na iaadmit ung material as evidence. kung pong sapilitan un na papakita at walang magtetestify na sya ung owner nung nirecord na video e dipo tlg admissible sa korte mga un. bawal po kc sa batas ung magpresent ng evidence na say nakuha mo sa maling paraan
2:40, sa maling paraan ba nakuha yung video? May mala-wire tapping bang naganap? Lol. Ipinost na nga sa soc med tapos sa.lagay na yun, ayaw pa ng kumuha ng video na gamiting ebidendya yung video nya? 🤔
maraming factors para maprove na murder. murder is premedidated. pinagplanuhan at may kinontsaba to kill them intentionally. sa kaso nya baka ilalaban ang homicide. di porke nag hain ng not guilty plea e iwas asunto sya. may chance tlgng d mahatulan yan ng murder. mas malaki ang chance lalo may evidence sa homicide case. search po muna difference ng homicide vs murder para malaman ninyo why ganun ang plea na inadvise sa kanya.
No doubt na talaga namang makukulong yan, ipupush ng defense na maging homicide lang yan kasi mas mababa ang sentensya. Let's all pray na maging fair ang hustisya,
Pilipinas, kamusta ang mga leader mo? Kapulisan, pinagtatakpan padin ang baho nyo? Where is justice? Kapag mahirap ka, guilty agad ang hatol. Eto, dahil PNP ang involve, wala lang?
Correct me if I'm wrong. Btw, I hate this mutherfker. Pero ask lang, diba ganun naman talaga ang plead ng akusado? Kasi pag sinabi agad na guilty, edi kulong na siya agad. Eh in his mind he is not guilty. Gusto pa niya pahabain ang kaso. So...
di naman po. may mga cases na if un lang tlg ung asunto e may mga nagpeplead na ng guilty tapus hahabol sila sa good conduct for lowering the sentence. usually for reclusion perpetua cases, not guilty tlg mga plea nila para makacounter file pa sila ng mga reclusion mayor to that effect
90% of the time, if not more, not guilty talaga ang plea ng respondent. It's not because he's denying the crime, gusto lang nyan ng lesser charge, mas mababang hatol. Yong mga nag plead ng guilty, dahil yon sa nakonsensya ng sobra or may bargaining agreement na kung mag plead ng guilty, bababaan ang hatol.
Now, let's see what Manny Pacquiao and PNP will say about this.
ReplyDeleteEto ang tunay na biktima ng circumstance.
DeleteMalamang tahimik lang yan si Pacquio kasi wala yang courage to stand against PNP
DeleteAng alam lang naman ni Pacquaio kalabanin eh yung mga walang kalaban laban at walang impluwensiya.
DeleteSa bakla lang naman galit na galit yan si Pacquiao
Deletediyos ko day ang linaw ng mga footage at mga litrato na nakunan na binaril niya ng harapan yung mag ina tapos
Deletehindi pa nahahahatulan hangang ngayon. Anong klaseng batas meron tayo at namumuno sa bansa natin nanahimik lang sa mga crimen na nangyayari sa bansa natin
Ibig sabihin lalaban ang lawyer nila na homicide, instead of double murder.
ReplyDeleteNakahambalang na yung dalawa sa sahig pinaputukan pa ulit, may intent talaga siyang pumatay not to mention wala siya sa lugar niya nandun sa territory ng victims and isa pa hindi naman siya tinutukan ng kutsilyo nung dalawang namatay diba? Na triggered lang siya dun sa sagutan nila. Hindi ko magets kung nasaan yung homicide dun.
DeleteTheir lawyer will fight for self defense, hence, the not guilty plea. If they want homicide then that means they have to plead guilty... smh!
DeleteOo Ganun talaga trabaho ng lawyer . Kahit May kasalanan ka.. they will protect you . I forgot Anu tawag sa kanila basta Alam ko Meron. Yung cousin ko na lawyer had dead threats before kasi yung client niya makasalan and murderer talaga and yes napanalo naman niya ang case
DeleteThere was an intent to kill. Ulo at puso ang binaril. Murder yan dapat.
Delete1:45 Accomplice. Kasabwat na sa krimen.
Deletehahahaha!! natawa ko sa accomplice.. hinde accomplice tawag dun.. defense lawyer po yun.. and death threats din po pala yun.. hehehe!!
Delete1:45 Defense attorney
Delete1.45 not sure if naintindihan ko but you’re proud na naipanalo nung cousin mo yung client nya na murderer?
Delete1:09 in short she is saying na magaling na lawyer cousin niya. Biruin mo nabaligtad pa. Minsan kasi nagiging technicality, ikot ikot hanap butas para lang mapanalo ang case. Naalala ko movie na devils advocate ba yun? Kay keanu reeves, story ng magaling na lawyer
Delete1:41 it can not be self defense since the suspect came to the victims' turf. And he had a gun. Maari pa na homicide. Pag murder kasi premeditated
DeleteGanyan talaga pag akala nilang maipaglalaban nila yung ginawa nila. It's pretty common for these thugs to plead not guilty. Ang importante, he will be found guilty at the end of the trial.
ReplyDelete1:08 well, sana din kung mahahatulan sya ng guilty, sana pagbayaran niya ito. Hndi yung may VIP treatment.
DeleteAng important wala siyang backer kasi basura ang justice system dito jusko si sinas nga todo defend pa.
DeleteHe pleaded not guilty kasi mdami po factors like pede siya mag file ng insanity, so pde iconsider yun sa not guilty plead.
ReplyDeleteYung nga lang, wala talaga siya konsensya.
He cannot file for insanity. That was alrrady said in the news because he is an active cop in service the day that happened.
DeleteHe could not use insanity since that would mean he should not be working sa pNP and he should not be carrying a weapon
DeleteCorrect me if I’m wrong but pleading not guilty does not mean he’s saying he’s innocent. He’s just saying it’s not murder. He’s probably going for manslaughter. I don’t know what his defense is but I think they’re going for temporary insanity or “heat of the moment”. Hindi ako expert but I’ve been watching too many crime documentaries. Kasi for murder, I think it needs to have a planning element or intention sa simula pa lang. In short, nagmamarunong lang. lol.
ReplyDeleteBaka habol lang nitong kulugo na to na hindi sya mahatulan ng murder kasi habang buhay na pagkakakulong ang hatol nyan of guilty. Sa mga ganitong cases sana may death penalty o kaya ok na rin yung nanlaban na narrative.
Delete2:02 i think may planning syang ginawa since kung balak lng niya pagalitan ang kapitbahay n nagboboga, hndi dapat sya magdadala ng baril. Also, bringing your own daughter as videographer or taga kuha ng video, it means n balak nya gamitin ang video for his self defense or ebidensya nya laban s kapitbahay (nanglaban or ang kapitbahay ang nauna and such)
DeleteButi n lng at may tagakuha din ng video ang kabilang panig and kitang kita s video ang buong pangyayari. This include n ang daughter ang nagprovoke s kapitbahay.
2:02, you are exactly correct. Ganyan ang puwede niyang gawing defense.
DeleteYes parang ganun na nga. Lighter sentence habol nya and a greater chance for a pardon later on
Delete2:02 I think you're right. Heat of the moment manslaughter ang ilalaban nila ng defence attorney niya kasi from the video he was triggered at dun na siya nang gigil. Lighter sentence ang gusto nila pero I hope not, guilty sana ihatol sa kanya para life imprisoment without parole.
DeleteT@n94 n lng ng judge kung maniwala n "heat of the moment" since kung tlgang heat of the moment, dapat umpisa plang wla n sya dalang baril and tagavideo
DeleteI’m 2:02. I’m not his sympathizer and I really want him to rot in jail for the rest of his life. I’m just looking at it from the criminal law na aspect. As far as I know, mas madali maipanalo ang manslaughter kysa murder and shorter ang trial period. We’re talking years here. Also from the side of the victims’ family, mas mahabang trial means financial burden sa side nila. For now, madami nakaabang pa sa case. May mga pulitikong nakiki ride on sa case nato which is beneficial for the family. But how about 2 or 3 years from now? They’d be left to deal with this. Also, bringing the daughter to the confrontation can work for either party. Nuezca can claim that the fact na dinala niya ang daughter niya means he never intended pumatay. Pagalingan na lang talaga ng arguments toh.
DeletePero mere words, no matter how offensive, are never adequate provocation. Sana itelevise ang hearing nito. Interesting kung pano idedefend ng mga attorney yung pulis.
DeleteParang malabo kasi binaril niya TWICE not once. Gusto niya talaga mamatay yun dalawa. Isa pa, after shooting no signs of remorse talaga. Palusot lang yan. He’s fully aware of what he’s doing. Kasi kung temporary insanity pala, that means he is not fit to work as a police. Kung ganyan pala heat of the moment, ndi niya ma control emotions niya so papano kapag may confrontation maganap during work? So baril baril na lang dahil “heat of the moment”
DeleteImagine if there was no video evidence.
ReplyDelete#GARAPAL
Hahahahaha, siguro insanity plea yan. Haaay pinas.
ReplyDeleteUniversal ata yan kasi meron din ganyan plea sa US eh.
DeleteDi raw pwede kasi pulis siya. Kung insanity plea papangit lalo image ng PNP kasi bakit sila tatanggap ng pulis na baliw or may mental disorder? Ano kaya palusot nila dyan
DeleteHmmm, that’s a common palusot tactic by their lawyers.
ReplyDeleteAral aral po pag may time mga taartits. That's HIS plea. Okay. Alangan naman na i-plea nia na guilty sha. Lol. Karapatan nia yon na ipagtanggol ang sarili nia. Kahit sino namang suspect ganian din ang plea kahit na obvious naman na sila yung may sala. Kaya nga may hearing kasi papatunayan ng prosecutor na guilty yung suspect thru the evidences na na gathered. Itong mga artista na to oh. Makareact lang.
ReplyDeleteSo you’re saying gusto pa nya lumusot? It’s his right kaya nga tinanong pa sya.
DeleteBut didnt he say he was sorry, bat kelangan nya pahabain ang proseso. Mas gagaan pa ang parusa nya.
Ang nagsisisi, sorry about what he had done willing to take the consequences. Ito lalaban pa hanggang sa huli.
aral aral din kapag may time hinde lahat ng suspect nagpinplead ng not guilty yung iba may konsensya, ibang tao talaga maka react lang
DeleteKung may konsensya sya he will plead guilty just to end the case and give immediate justice to the family
Delete2:14 gurl, hndi kaba naturuan ng Good moral conduct or wla k bang konsensya?? Kasi Nuezca, have 2 cases before this and he never learn from it. Pang pyscho level n nga yta si Nuezca eh, since wla sya ng konsensya.
DeleteMay mga suspects na nagpplea ng guilty para sa lower parusa or sa future mabigyan ng pardon.
DeleteManiniwala na sana ko kay 2:28 kaso nung nabasa ko “evidences” waley na. Pieces of evidence po.
DeleteEh kung family mo kaya ang binaril sa harap mo at yan ang plea nya would you still say the same?
Delete2:14 AM -aral aral din sa pulis na yan di porket may baril pwede nya barilin kahit sino
Delete2:31 anong kailangang pag-aralan te? Ikaw na din nagsabi, HINDI LAHAT nagpi-plead ng not guilty yung iba may konsensya. Itong si Jonel walang konsensya. And whether we like it or not, right niyang magplead ng not guilty. May iba nga, hindi naman sila ang may kasalanan pero nagpi-plead sila ng guilty. Bakit? Para pagtakpan yung family (like anak na totoong gumawa ng krimen).
Delete2:14 ikaw yata ang kailangan mag aral dyan. How insensitive, ignorant, and inhumane your comment is. Nakathree n sya which dapat una pa lng, kinulong n sya but since napaka unfair ng justice system, ilang beses n sya napapawalang sala and nakakabalik p s serbisyo. Minsan naman magpakatao k noh?
DeleteAnd nagsisisi pa sya sa lagay na yan
ReplyDeleteObvious nman n script lng niya yun. Nakadalawa n sya before this and nakakalaya p sya withoit any issue, so sanay n sya s pagpatay.
DeleteNot guilty ang plea para magka-trial. Tapos malamang mas mabigat ang sentensya.
ReplyDeleteKita na sa video na sya bumaril tapos ang plea not guilty! Only in the phils!
ReplyDeletePlea nya yan. Right nya yan. Ang importante is ang verdict.
ReplyDeleteGusto nyang malusutan ang murder dahil life sentence ang hatol dyan, syempre yung defense lawyer gagawa ng paraan yan para makakuha yan ng mas mababa ang sentensya
ReplyDeleteIto yung kaso na viral ang ebidensiya at ibat-ibang anggulo pa ng video, pero sabi ng PNP hindi daw pwede gamitin ang video as an evidence. Wow, eh wow!
ReplyDeleteSan planeta or a parallel universe sya not guilty?? We all know you are GUILTY in any way shape or form.
ReplyDeleteOnly PNP and/or Govt consider him not guilty, 9:14
DeleteBakit madami bang pera pambayad yan sa lawyer?
ReplyDeleteGovernment can provide a lawyer.
DeleteGrabe noh. Wala ka talagang aasahan sa gobyerno.
DeleteEto kitang kita na sa video ang krimen, dami pang hinahanap na ebidensya. While sa isa, nasa hallway lang ang kuha pero sure na sure na sa suspek. 🤦🏼♂️
ReplyDeletemagkaiba kc ang factors na tinitignan sa murder at homicide. mahirap iprove na pinagplanuhan nyang patayin from d very beginning. ang habol nila mababang sentence at mas pasok ang kaso nya sa homicide.
DeleteHindi porke may naipakitang ebidensya e pwedeng gamitin po un. may process po para maging admissible ang mga bagay bagay as evidence. kulang lang po sila ng paliwanag pero tama po sila na para magamit na evidence e dapat pumayag muna ung kumuha ng video na iaadmit ung material as evidence. kung pong sapilitan un na papakita at walang magtetestify na sya ung owner nung nirecord na video e dipo tlg admissible sa korte mga un. bawal po kc sa batas ung magpresent ng evidence na say nakuha mo sa maling paraan
Delete2:35 hndi p b sapat n may plano tlaga sya patayin ang mag ina? Nagdala nga sya ng baril and taga video (his daughter) eh.
Delete2:40, sa maling paraan ba nakuha yung video? May mala-wire tapping bang naganap? Lol. Ipinost na nga sa soc med tapos sa.lagay na yun, ayaw pa ng kumuha ng video na gamiting ebidendya yung video nya? 🤔
DeleteYung Kumuha ng video baka nagtago na , kasi baka may death threat na din siya.
DeleteAksidenteng napindot lang daw gatilyo ng baril e nagkataon nandun yung mag ina, malas sila tinamaan..ganern!! 😁✌
ReplyDeletemaraming factors para maprove na murder. murder is premedidated. pinagplanuhan at may kinontsaba to kill them intentionally. sa kaso nya baka ilalaban ang homicide. di porke nag hain ng not guilty plea e iwas asunto sya. may chance tlgng d mahatulan yan ng murder. mas malaki ang chance lalo may evidence sa homicide case. search po muna difference ng homicide vs murder para malaman ninyo why ganun ang plea na inadvise sa kanya.
ReplyDeletebinaril nya sa ulo yung mga biktima not once but twice. so, may intention talaga na patayin yung mag-ina. paanong homicide yun?
DeleteNo doubt na talaga namang makukulong yan, ipupush ng defense na maging homicide lang yan kasi mas mababa ang sentensya. Let's all pray na maging fair ang hustisya,
ReplyDeletePilipinas, kamusta ang mga leader mo? Kapulisan, pinagtatakpan padin ang baho nyo? Where is justice?
ReplyDeleteKapag mahirap ka, guilty agad ang hatol. Eto, dahil PNP ang involve, wala lang?
Raffy Tulfo wag mong palagpasin itong case na ito.... basta pulis lulusot na ba lang sa brutal na crime!!!
ReplyDeleteSana double life sentence to or death penalty.
ReplyDeleteCorrect me if I'm wrong. Btw, I hate this mutherfker. Pero ask lang, diba ganun naman talaga ang plead ng akusado? Kasi pag sinabi agad na guilty, edi kulong na siya agad. Eh in his mind he is not guilty. Gusto pa niya pahabain ang kaso. So...
ReplyDeletedi naman po. may mga cases na if un lang tlg ung asunto e may mga nagpeplead na ng guilty tapus hahabol sila sa good conduct for lowering the sentence. usually for reclusion perpetua cases, not guilty tlg mga plea nila para makacounter file pa sila ng mga reclusion mayor to that effect
Delete90% of the time, if not more, not guilty talaga ang plea ng respondent. It's not because he's denying the crime, gusto lang nyan ng lesser charge, mas mababang hatol. Yong mga nag plead ng guilty, dahil yon sa nakonsensya ng sobra or may bargaining agreement na kung mag plead ng guilty, bababaan ang hatol.
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