WATCH: Inilarawan ng isa sa mga respondent sa kaso ng pagkamatay ni Christine Dacera kung paano umano sila tinorture ng mga tauhan ng Makati Police @dzbb pic.twitter.com/WqbsFFAvKI
— Luisito Santos (@luisitosantos03) January 13, 2021
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Now I smell something fishy. These 4 should be investigated more.
ReplyDeleteMula umpisa hanggang netong mga nakaraang araw, ang pnp at nbi may something fishy. Tanim ihi pa more. Ahahaha
DeleteIt becomes a problem when people/witnesses/ persons of interest withhold information during a police investigation of a victim’s death. The police’s methods to uncover obscured details vary and can be quite uncomfortable for the people being interviewed.
DeleteThis case has been publicized too much, idk if its a good or a bad thing. Dapat kasi from the start all the information should have been private and only released once they have sufficient evidence. Ang dami pang pa presscon, ang gulo na ng story.
DeleteBinabago nila ang witness statements nila dahil pinoprotektahan nila yung mga nasa kabilang room.
DeleteClearly they are covering something up. And these beks andaming sinasabi sa interviews and they will retract, their lawyers should tell them to just keep quiet. Yung kini claim nila na inosente sila na ki-question because they keep on blabbing sa interviews. Let the investigation roll. True will always come out.
DeleteSame 12:50 ever since this fiasco started. They should stop doing interviews. Ma question lalo credibility nila.
DeletePa interview kasi ng pa interview mga ito without their lawyers
ReplyDeleteIt was in the police station where he made that statement
Deletehinintay pa ang Dacera Family bago kunan ng statement na walang abogado. Anak ni Claire nakaalis dahil may sumundo na abogado. Magdamag kinulong mukhang sablay ang PNP
DeleteDacera's side will do anything to save the 'probinsiyana reputation' of their daughter when the CCTV footage showed otherwise.
Deleteduh may tinatago kasi kayo kaya ganyan. kung friends kayo ni christine sabihin nyo kung sino yong mga lalaki sa kabilang room. kita naman palipat lipat kayo ng room eh bkit di nyo b kilala uong mga taga kabila eh ilang beses kayong pbalik balik don?
ReplyDeleteBakit hindi PNP ang maglabas ng pangalan nung mga nasa kabilang kwarto? Case closed na for them di ba? Ibig sabihin kilala na nila lahat ng involved sa kung ano man ang tawag dito (case nga ba ito o casecasesan lang).
DeleteCase solved 😑 iba po yung case closed
Delete1:20 AM may namatay tapos sasabihin mo casecasesan lang? If kapatid mo namatay will you be able to say that? Kampihan lang ata purpose ng opinion mo. And it is true may itinatago yang mga friends. It is obvious they are trying to protect now itong friend na buhay pa.
DeleteWhat? You've never heard of Coerced-internalized false confessions? Bago magsalita, alamin muna kung ano pinagsasabi
DeleteMay isa lang silang kakilala don at ipinakilala lang sila. Kaya yung nasa kabilang room hindi nila kilala dahil nung gabi lang na yon sila pinakilala ng kakilala nilang na nasa kabilang room
DeleteIt’s a party with boylets c’mon mag papa virgin pa ba tayo. Sinabi na nung manager sa sworn statement jp was the one who arranged the accommodation to have 2 rooms. It just gone wrong, at kung ano man yun alam nilang lahat yun.
Deletemy tinatago kasi kayo. baki di nyo masabi kung ano yong buong detalye at kung sino .ga tao sa other room?
ReplyDeleteHindi naman sa media dapat nilalabas yun diba. Kaya nga may preliminary investigation ano ba.
DeleteThey have the right to remain silent, ika nga. Baka gamitin against them kung ano man ang masabi nila outside of the court, and masisira ang diskarte ng mga abugado nila. Look at the police, kung ano ano payabang na inaannounce, pinapahamak ang sarili nila sa mga kasinungalingan
Delete12:56 Gurl, pagsabihan mo yan is PNP since nilabag n rin nman nila ang rights ng mga persons of interest and didnt do their job properly. 🙄
Delete748, remain silent? E Panay nga press con nila. Bakit nagpapalit ng witness testimony everytime may press release?
DeleteAno na PNP?
ReplyDeleteKaya dapat me cctv mga kulungan at detention cells pati mga interrogation. Hindi na malaman kung sino nagsisinungaling.
ReplyDeleteAh e sinabi nila yun nung nagpainterview na sila at wala na sila sa loob ng presinto! So sinong tumakot sa kanila? E nasa labas na sila at me abugado pang present nung nagpainterview na sila if I remember right e sa Las Piñas sila ininterview!
DeleteI believe him. Knowing the reputation of pnp
ReplyDeleteHay naku. Itong mga pulis na ito hindi talaga mapagkakatitiwalaan. May kilala nga akong pulis bagong pasok lang sa PNP, nung kinasal grabe 5 star hotel. May mga padrino doon. Yung family nya at ng bride hindi naman mayayaman. Kaya alams na.
ReplyDeleteAfter more than a week, ngayon pa lang nagfocus ang pnp ng investigation dun sa kabilang room. They wasted time putting blame on these friends, eh obvious naman how well they took care of their friend based on the cctv footage. I can't imagine how traumatic this must have been for them. Napakabobo ng humawak ng kaso.
ReplyDeleteNagmamadali na i-close ang kaso.
DeleteThey didn't think everybody would closely follow this case. They thought na idiin ang magkakaibigan na ito, announce case closed, pogi points for them. They did not think this through.
DeleteUnfair for these people kung di ma identify ang mga nasa kabilang room. If those men were older baka may influencial personality dun kaya withheld ang identity
ReplyDeletesorry huh, im just asking lang kasi may nakuha pa daw na urine sample sa bangkay 1 week ng namatay according to NBI, may nakita akong comments na within 10 minutes nag eexpired daw ang urine sample ng tao, chrue ba yun mga momshies?
ReplyDeleteKunwari lang ang urine na iyan.
DeleteI'm no expert, pero ang alam ko once namatay ang tao, all muscles relax, kaya yung mata nagdidilate, then lumalabas ang urine, sometimes feces. And I have pets who did that when they died so I can confirm. Kaya ako nagtataka saan naka kuha ng urine sample ang NBI, and not only that, sa na-embalsamo na cadaver pa. How? And lumalabas gross incompetence ng pulisya na hindi man lang nag kolecta ng samples before na embalsamo? Grabeng incompetence
DeleteI think yung mga pag collect samples ng bodily fluids and other forensic tests nagawa while her body was at the Makati Medical Center before it was turned over to PNP for custody and before the body was embalmed.
DeleteAnd sabi ng unang medico legal wala daw urine ang bladder, ngayon after 1 week nagkaroon na. Tanim ihi yan for sure!
DeleteDid commenters #1, 3, and 4 watch it and listen to it?
ReplyDeleteThis case has been focused on....i wonder about the murder of the mother and her son. And if, the thousands of other rape cases there are being investigated as much as this one
ReplyDelete1:28 obviously, PNP used this case para pagtakpan ang kabaro nila. Theyre incompetent to the core
DeleteWala akong tiwala sa pnp. Pero sa sinasabi niya baka mawalan na rin ng tiwala mga tao sa kanila. Sabihin niyo kc totoong nangyari at kung sino yung mga nasa kabilang room. Para kasing prinoprotektahan niyo din sila so in a way may kasalanan din talaga kayo.
ReplyDeleteAyan naaa parang may mga mabubuking these next coming daysss hmmm
ReplyDeletePero sinabi nya to sa mom ni christine na sila lang about mark eh. nebeyen...
ReplyDeleteNapanood ko mga interview nila kay boy abunda. Aba kinulong pala sila sa isang kwarto at si sharon dacera along with her entire family nag interrogate. Allowed ba yun?? Hindi rin daw sila binasahan ng rights nila bago sila interviewhin at wala daw lawyer
DeleteHaaaay. Naawa ako sa mga ito :( Hinde nila ito gusto ito mangyari. Kung nag control Lang si Christine sa drinks hind e ito mangyayari Pero wlaa na Andiyan na Tapos na Wala na si Christine Yun ang masaklap Kung pwede Lang mag salita ang patay. Sana mag lantad na din mga tao nasa isang room lahat sila at mag Sabi na ng totoo at kwento na din totoo nangyari Medyo nakakatakot lalabas ang next reporting sa test Mamaya niya madami na add ons na story Sana ilabas ang totoo results wag na I magic trick :(
ReplyDeleteDapat si Christine ang nag-kontrol sa sarili niya. Wala naman siyang babysitter sa kanila.
DeleteSame. Naaawa ako s knila kasi they’re on a hot seat for having a great time and being there for their walwal n friend. And yung kailangan p nila ulit ulitin n bakla sila para lang iconvince ang tao n hndi nila ginalaw ung babae. Hays
DeleteReally? Victim blaming. Sa lahat ng nangyari na to these people can change and move on. Yung patay wala ng chance. I don’t think walang foul play. Eversince the case started i know these bekis may alam sila possible hindi sila may kagagawan but they know something.
DeletePwedeng hindi sila may kasalanan pero may alam sila. That is not innocent.
Deletemadaming mali ang mga pulis. ayon sa interview ni Boy Abunda sabi ng pulis inaantay daw mga family ni Dacera bago sila pakawalan. Kaya nakauwi yung anak ni Claire dahil may dumating na abogado nya yung dalawa wala. Dapat sinabihan sila ng Miranda rights at tinanong kung may abogado sila kung wala pulis ang magbibigay.
ReplyDeletekung rape beyond reasonable doubt kahit may makita man na semen patunayan nila na di ginusto ni Dacera.
ReplyDeleteSadly this is pretty common. Kakaepal ng kapulisan satin.
ReplyDeleteayon sa Abunda interview bakit hinihintay ang Decera Family bago kunan ang statement yung dalawang kinulong. Nakauwi anak ni Claire dahil may sumundo na abogado. diba dapat may counsel na ibibigay ang pulis kung kinukunan sila ng statement?
ReplyDeleteI wonder kung bakit ang mga cctv walang mga sounds?
ReplyDeleteusually naman wala talaga sounds ang cctv para makasave sa memory ng server. Yung nga lang pag times like this, hindi makuha ang pinagusapan
DeleteThere’s a missing puzzle in this case kasi that they don’t want to tackle. #iknowyouknowweknow
ReplyDeleteang hina pala ng loob nya. Kung babawiin dn nya after a few days, he should have stuck to his principles
ReplyDeleteHmmm ganyan tactics sa interrogation kasi! I know based on reading detective books.. know your rights. Hwag mag salita.
ReplyDeleteI think it is true na may inilagay na drug although it was not meant to cause the death. Most probably din almost all of them partake of it willingly. Unfortunately isama sa dami ng ininom, it became deadly for the girl. They are just trying to protect their friend kasi naaawa na sila and now they have the lawyer who gave them courage and can make a new story for them.
ReplyDeleteThe question is, bakit ang kulelat ng investigation at autopsy? Ano talaga cause ng death, bakit di matukoy ng maayos? Are the people behind the autopsy covering up as well?
This is possible, guys. Watch kayo ng mga crime documentaries sa Netflix or YouTube. You'll learn a lot. Meron ibang suspect na ginigipit, iniintimidate, tinatakot, kaya minsan they're forced to say things just to end the interrogation. I really feel sorry for them once mapatunayan na hindi sila guilty. Marami nawala sa kanila, job, reputation, yung trauma pa, etc. Sa mga nagsasabing nakapagparty pero walang pambayad ng abogado, guys nobody's prepared for a situation like this. Mahal ang attorney's fee and I think mas malakas yung kabila that's why they need to hire the best of the best.
ReplyDeleteA few days ago naaawa ako sa mga ito now medyo nagdududa na ako dahil obvious na may tinatago or pinagtatakpan sa mga nangyari at sa ibang involved. May powerful person/s na involved dito malamang.
ReplyDeleteMasama talaga ang dulot ng paglalasing..kaya kayong mahilig uminom lalo na yong mga babae this is a wake up call for all of you!
ReplyDeleteGrabe kakai ba yong mga babae??? Pwede bang, masama talaga ang dulot ng paglalasing. periodt. Ki babae or lalaki ka.
DeleteHala, PNP. Ano na? Pero di ba pwedeng magamit yung "statement" na yun ni Rom against them sa court? Tho "wala" naman pala talagang nasabi na ganon si Christine. Dapat nakikipag usap sila sa atty nila ng maayos bago nagbibitaw ng statement.
ReplyDeleteFile complaint againts those police. Name them, they must be charged!
ReplyDeleteJust like that, natabunan ung Gregorio case kung saan harap harapan at may video ung pagpatay ng pulis. Kapag maganda lang ba biktima sa ka lang big deal at bibigyan ng hustisya sa Pinas
ReplyDeleteDapat nirecord nila kahit voice recorder lang gamit cellphone
ReplyDelete714 additional kaso ba hanap mo? Anti wire tapping law po. Bawal mag record ng kung ano ano kung walang consent.
DeleteIn civilized countries, police interviews are recoded, both video and audio and done only with the presence of a lawyer.
DeleteThis case reminds me of the Korean movie, Memories of Murder. Dahil sa sobrang pressured ng investigators to find the real culprit, they just made a suspect and tortured him physically and mentally until he confessed to a crime he didn’t do. Pero sa case naman ni Dacera, it’s like they are creating a crime and a suspect that didn’t actually exist just to divert the public’s attention from Nunez’ crime.
ReplyDeleteAs per Forensic expert Ms. Fortun, may lapses sa PNP investigations. She highlighted that the body should not be embalmed at once, considering Dacera's family's not been informed. Before kasi i embalsamo ang bangkay eh i wash ang entire body. What ever DNA or fluids sa katawan ng bangkay eh na wawash out na. Ang PNP dapat manuod ng CSI or NCIS TV series.
ReplyDeleteAlam mo naman fiction 101 diba haha kaloka ka.
DeletePano irerecord eh naka posas sila for 5days, saklap lang... Tinorture sila ng pulis at pinapaamin at mag name drop daw para maabswelto
ReplyDeleteGet a lawyer before you spluk.
ReplyDeleteYup, that’s too common in pinas.
ReplyDeleteGanyan sa pinas. They want to close the case quickly just to get credit for promotion.
ReplyDeletePwede na gawing movie itong christine dacera case. Inuutay utay pa mga cctv para suspense. May mga binabawi ang statement at mga katanungan pa paano namatay...
ReplyDeleteUmay na ako saka nila. Purga na sa totoo lang..
ReplyDeleteHmmm, never talk to the police without a lawyer. You can easily be manipulated to say things you don’t want to say.
ReplyDeleteOh well, we all know about pnp. Can’t be trusted and can’t be believed.
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