Tweet Scoop: Netizens React to Karla Estrada's View That Girls Should be Responsible for What They Post and Not Initiate Anything in Interview with Xyriel Manabat
I agree that we should condemned those men who are blatantly sexualizing women. However, respect goes two-way. In order for other people to respect you, you yourself must be the one to respect yourself. Let us not use the excuse that we should be able to wear whatever we want because we are comfortable with it especially when we know that those outfits are too revealing and are really sexy outfit. Aren't we also comfortable wearing blouse which are exposing our cleavage, thighs etc.? The fact that we already knew that there are many sexual predator on the internet, it isn't bad that we take care of ourselves by limiting what we are posting especially that laws protecting us from crimes committed online are not limited and not properly implemented.
Xyriel never exposed her cleavage. She's just a teenager wearing what a NORMAL teenager would wear. Yung mga taong malisyoso are the ones who are sexualizing her for having ample assets.
Nope. Victim blaming 101. Women everywhere are harassed even while wearing the "proper outfits." They weren't "asking for it," and yet it still happened.
Women should be able to wear whatever we want, and post what we want. The solution to all the sexual predators on the internet is not to silence the women, but to teach men to be better. There is no prey without a PREDATOR. There is no sexual harassment without the HARASSER. There is no rape without RAPISTS. Teach men to be better instead of having women conform for something they have no fault in.
12:28 - so as a former victim, your solution to this problem of men taking advantage of women and sexual harassment, is for the women to adjust? No, sis, no. Ikaw nanga biktima ikaw pa nagaadjust. It shouldn't be that way.
11:37 sa IG yung mga nagdedemand ng RESPECT e yung mga nagbibilad ng mga cleavage, puwet, singit at mga hita! Yung mga lalaki naman "marerespeto" naman dahil mabablock sila pag bastos sila! Hahahahahaha! Hindi na nila makikita pagnagpost ng mga bagong pics kaya bilang ganti nung mga nabblock e nerereport nila yung mga accounts.
12:43 no, sis. Sa panahon ngayon importante yung peace within yourself. Now i can fall asleep without being hunted sa mga pambabastos. Kanya kanya na lang.
Diba naka tshirt nman c Xyril sa mga posts nya at may pa sapaw pa nga sa ilalim pero binastos pa rin..lol, jusko Lord kasalanan na pala ngayon ang may malaking hinaharap. Kawawa nman.
yes - your body, your rules. you can wear whatever you want in public, however, you cannot control the dirty mind of a manyak. sabi nga, even those who are well covered are subject to pambabastos, how much more if one wears revealing clothes na takaw attention. So sino ang mag aadjust? Remember, we cannot control the action of people around us, but we can control ours.
I have to agree with 11:37pm hindi sa victim blaming while it is true that you van wear anything that you want you also have to be responsible with what you post and wear. While it is also true that we have to teach men to be better and that rape is not right we have to face the reality that we can not teach every predators, but we can teach ourselves to be responsible. Yes may mga nasesensualize or namomolest kahit balot na but that doesn't mean na we can't take extra precautions to protect ourselves. You can wear bikini sa beach since appropriate naman yun dun,pero posing seductively and posting it online will all boils down to what is your goal with that post?.
By all means wear whatever you want to wear kahit pa nipplets lang suotin nyo! But keep in mind that no matter how much we educate the manyaks, THEY WILL NEVER CHANGE! Just like mga magnanakaw, serial killer etc. so pag binastos kayo habang nakabilad katawan nyo wag kayong sisigaw ng justice at stop sexual harassment dahil wala kayong magagawa sa mga taong ganun.
Yes. It is your right. But it is also your responsibility na protektahan sarili mo against predators. We should condemn those predators and persecute them pero protektahan mo rin sarili mo. Alam mo na nga may predators at hindi perpekto police and justice system sa atin, pero ikaw pa gagawa ng way para mabastos ka.
Bakit kapag pumupunta ka divisoria, quiapo, sa mrt at sa kung anung mataong lugar, todo kapit ka sa bag, at cellphone mo?
Bakit kontodo lagay ka ng mataas na pader na may barbed wire pa sa bahay mo?
Kasi responsibility mo na protektahan mo sarili mo against predators at masasamang loob.
E ganun naman pala na kahit ano suotin nababastos tayo e how much more pag revealing clothes ang suot. I wear short shorts but pag mg commute, syempre ayusin din pananamit. Totoo din na responsibility mo ang pinopost mo. Kaya i checked my daughter's facebook all the time. Iba na panahon ngayon mga girls, madaming masasamang tao. Di naman masama na mag ingat at maging responsable.
Wouldnt it be nice if we can wear whatever we want? Unfortunately, we are not living in a perfect world. Iba iba pag iisip ng tao, Kahit ano pang level nyan sa society, lalake man o babae. Mas magaling lang mag control ang iba. Kaya kung kaya nating iwasan, gawin natin.
yung nakatira ka sa mainit na bansa pero kelangan mong ibalot sarili mo dahil sa mga manyakis. oh my gosh. tsaka hindi talaga revealing suot nya. wala tayo magagawa kung gifted sya.
Excuse me Anon 1137? Alam mo bang nabastos ako sa bus while wearing longsleeve and below the knee skirt? Pupunta kong interview non, and don ko narealized walang pinipiling pananamit ang manyak. Pag manyak ka. manyak ka
Korek 11:10 walang pinipili ang manyak. Kahit naka mahaba ka pang damit mamanyakin ka padin. So kasalanan pa din yun ng babae? Babae na lang lagi me kasalnan, ang lalaki kasi naturalesa nila daw. Isang malaking joke, dapat baguhin na yun mga toxic at backwards na pananaw
Not a victim blamer. We all agree that sexual harrassment towards women are flooding the internet and the whole world these days. Shame on these men who couldnt contain their lustful thoughts to themselves. However, women should also be responsible with their actions. I am a woman, but when i see a girl wearing a skimpy short and crop shirt with cleavage showing, i cant help but to judge. Its a human nature to think sexual. Men are notoriously sexual in nature. Most men can control their thoughts and actions but unfortunately there are sick men who just cant! And these are the people you hoped you wont encounter face to face with. This topic wont end, but the bottom line is, girl need to be careful
I think it is not victim blaming we just can't control others but we can protect ourselves you can wear anything you like but wear it appropriately if magcomute ka mahirap mag suot ng super ikli na shorts.
Gosh here goes the feeling victim lagi! 12:31 when you deliberately leave your car open with all your valuables inside at ninakawan ka you are not a victim but an idi*t! Only those who are protecting themselves but are still sexually abused are considered a victim! Real world vs your ideal world. Wake up!
Shouldn't be given a platform at all. Invite experts like psychologists for sensitive topics especially if it involves a minor. Keep your opinions to yourself.
Kahit di ka psychologist. Kung nanay ka, kapatid ka, pagbawalan mong itiwangwang ng pamilya mo ang katawan nya sa public lalo na minor. Kung malaki ung hinaharap wag mo ng pagsuotin pa ng see through para di takaw pansin
This! (anon 2:03). Hindi pagvivictim blame ung mga pinagsasabihan sya or nagaadvise sa kanya. Yan ang hindi maintindihan ng iba dito. Oo you can wear whatever you like. Babae din ako. Pero nasasayo din un kung ano mga ipopost mo jan. At tanggapin kung mapagsabihan ka ng nakakatanda.
Remember girls, the "white knight" men who looks like they are fighting for your cause is just waiting to get laid :) Their game is to be on your side and then take advantage of you :)
I have no idea how Karla is still a host? None of those so-called momshies can host a talk show. My God! Buti nalang talaga limited nalang kayong napapanood. Ganyang opinion ba ang iinstill nyo sa mga viewers nyo? Bingong-bingo ka na Karla! Kaloka ka.
I don't see anything wrong what Karla said on that matter. She said it as a concerned mother to her kids as she imparts to young "socmed active girls" to be very careful as well especially posting their pics with protruded body parts as not everyone will be pleased to see it the way they do.
In my opinion, it's not the malicious vultures will adjust but the individual herself must also consider their vulnerabilities thinking of any possible consequences may come.
I have a friend who was assaulted despite wearing a very un-revealing un-sexy school uniform. So it's my friend's fault pala because she didn't "adjust". SMH.
1.21 this is not about adjusting. This is about you wanting to control other people minds through whining. Whining cannot make a difference.. But filing a lawsuit. There!
@1:21 That's exactly the point. the fact that your fully clothed friend was harassed, what more those people who dress the same like Xyrille?
In your friend's case? obviously its not her fault. those are 2 different situations as your friend have encountered the perpetrator with all intentions while in Xyrille's? no one intents and notice her after her defunct tv show until she posted pics with her protruded body shape that triggers the perpetrators attention. "kuha mo?"
7:12 Sharing an experience is not whining/complaining. Kaya nga tayo nagco-comment dito sa FP to participate in the discourse. Given the different scenarios, it will always boil down to one thing - unfortunately Women are ALWAYS held liable in everything that they do. Whether balot na balot or dressed provocatively.
255 nakalabas ba ang cleavage ni Xyril sa photos, diba hindi? Maski pa anong luwang ng tshirt nya, makikita mo pa rin na malaki ang hinaharap nya at wla ka ng magagawa dyan.
@5:09 I just do not get the madness, 16 year old wearing tight fitting top, well hugged and emphasized boobs with a stare and pose like it was truly insane!
Anong gusto nyong i-comment sa kanya? that she's cute?
Honestly, sino na mga nakakita ng mga ppsts ni Xyriel? I understand where Karla is coming from biglang mother siya. Especially in Xyriel's age, hindi dapat ganon yung mga posts niya. I mean check her posts bago kayo magalit sakin. I'm not saying na kunsintihin yung mga lalaki pero as "girls" meaning minor girls, dapat ibagay din nila sa age nila yung mga suot at actions nila.
The see through shirts and seductive poses. Dami kasi pabebe dito without even seeing the whole context. Babae din ako. Alam ko yung ganon na pakiramdam. Kaya nga i dont post my pics na sexy e privacy ko na yun. Tapos babanatan nila kesyo she’s still a minor. Minor ka nga tapos magsusuot ka ng ganyan at ipost mo. Wag tayong utak na puro victim blaming. Kapag may nangyari sa inyo, iiyak ka na lang? No! Dapat una pa lang nag iingat ka na.
Boob shaping shirts? Ang tawag dun "baby tee". Kapag pinasuot yun sa flat chested na babae, ok lang? Pero kay Xyriel na nagkataong pinagpala, hindi nya puede suotin?
Hindi kasalnan ni Xyriel malaki ang boobs niya lahat tayo nagsusuot ng ganiyang tshirt fitted tshirts nagkataoon lang maliit ang mga boobs natin so hindi masiydong na eemphazie yung laki ng breast specially yung walang boobs na maliit lang.
11:53 alam mo yung size of your clothing doesnt just depend sa size ng mismong body. you have to consider the boobs. small frame ako pero med-large yung boobs ko. Syempre med-large binibili ko na swimsuits. Bakit ko ipipilit yung small sa akin e hindi nga small yung boobs ko.
Malamang katawan natin to so tayo ang responsible na alagaan ito at ilayo sa mga masasamang elemento... so ano, magpopost lang tayo tapos hayaan natin ang iba na maging responsable sa post natin?
No. Just NO! The only one responsible for harassing is the harasser. The only one responsible for a rape is the rapist. My gosh the level of victim blaming here is disgusting.
At turuan din ang anak na babae kung paano pangalagaan ang katawan nila. Just because you can means you should. Alam mong malaki ang hinaharap mo pero magsusuot ka ng sobrang nipis at see through na tela tapos one size smaller sayo and you’ll expect na walang titingin sayo?
I’m with you. Men with no shirt on can stand outside and they get no harassment. Tapos itong bata fully clothed na nga nababastos pa. And hello shes’s only what 16. Tapos sya ang i blame? Kahiya naman sa inyo mga tito at tita na yung bata pa i school nyo. You are slowly tearing down the kid’s self esteem just because she was born with genes that gave her big boobs?!? If you do that to my child, sorry pero papatulan ko kayo.
Sa Arab regions lalaki mga nirerape dahil nakikita ng mga arabo legs nila. Mga babae kasi dun kahit mukha takip kaya hindi nila mapagnasahan. Yung mga OFWs naman na mga maids e hindi kasi full balot kaya ang taas ng pagnanasa sa kanila.
Why is Karla talking like Xyriel posted a naked picture online? She was literally dressed appropriately. It just so happens may curves Ang body Niya naturally. So given this advice, dapat Naka malaking damit lagi si Xyriel para Hindi mapansin Ang body shape Niya?
Naiisip ko palang, naaawa na ako sa mga babaeng malalaki ang hinaharap na hindi pwedeng fit ang damit. Lol, jusko ano kayang masasabi nitong Karla nato pag nasa ibang bansa lalo nat summer at yung mga babae halos nasa singit na yung short at skirt.
yah yung ibang artista kahit walang boobs sobrang pakita ng mga skin yung iba nga nagppaenhance pa ng boobs para lang masabing ma appeal sila na kahit bastusin na ang dating nila
2.06 dito sa America, hindi whining ang uso dito. Sa pinas yan ang uso. Big difference eh? Pero ang problema nila dito in some states, na hindi masolve ay yong mga magnanakaw ng packages sa porch nila. But still they dont just whine like that but rather do something about it at least.
their point was - since when did xyriel post a pic of herself naked or not looking decent on social media? she was dressed appropriately but was still a target to manyaks and was objectified. stop exaggerating lol
I don’t like Karla either pero tama naman sya... maybe the delivery could’ve been more sensitive but the content is correct IMO. And it doesn’t apply to Xyriel, in general lang yung sinasabi nya.
Let’s not forget hindi naman pa-holier than thou si Karla. She was a sexy actress before.
I agree with you mars. Kung sa babae ka na nga makita mo ung kapwa mo babae na ganun ung suot parang mapapacomment ka, sa lalaki pa kaya na alam naman natin kung ano nature nila. Sa tingin nyo bakit kailangan nating magdamit ng disente sa simbahan? Kase kahit pari pa yan kahit na holy pa yang taong yan, hindi man yan mag take action, dumudumi isip nyan.
In an elevator, a girl was in front of me wearing a very sexy dress, kita cleavage. I was wearing shirt and shorts- may mga paakyat na lalaki. Guess sino ang tinitigan from head to foot? We were both girls btw. So should she sue those guys dahil manyak tingin nila dun sa girl? We cant control them but we can control what we show in public. That's reality. Sad but true.
i saw a video of some girls na sumasayaw ng kanta ni andrew E habang nakalabas ang dila at umuungol, etong mga ganitong babae ang pinagsasabihan at yung mga ganung action ng babae ang hindi tinotolerate pero yung mga pananamit just like xyriel yun dapat ang walang malisya, let the girls wear whatever they want to wear.
May point naman si karla at may point din yong mga taong ayaw maging responsible sa pinopost. Kung ayaw ninyo maging responsible you have to talk the talk and walk the walk. Sue the bastard!
Ang hirap kc sa mga millenials masyadong idealistic. Dapat ganito ang mga lalake, dapat ganyan etc. Yes, ideally dapat ang mga lalake may respeto sa mga babae, hindi dapat nagsesexualize etc. Kaso in reality hindi kasi un nangyayari. We have to be realistic than idealistic. I agree with her, for the first time ngaun lang ako nag agree sa sinabi ni karla. Pero totoo kasi na we have to be very cautious with what we post in social media. I don't honestly get why there are girls out there who loves to show off their boobies, cleavage and body in social media tapos pag nabastos they'll scream respect. Lalo na sa tiktok na parang ginawa ng porn site. And please stop using the word victim blaming sa mga taong di naga-agree sa inyo just to justify ung pinaglalaban nyong sexy ootd and photos. You can disagree with us but don't call us victim blamer, because not everyone agrees with you.
naalala ko lang yung napanuod kong tiktok girls na sumasayaw and dumidila habang kinakanta yung "and boom walang daplis at ang sabe niya oh ah ah ah" like minsan may mga babae ding papansin at gustong pinagnanasaan ng lalake just to get likes and followers, aminin natin maraming influencer ang ganyan ang mindset target ang mga manyak dagdag pangkabuhayan showcase.
Couldnt agree more! At paano ba naging victim blamers mga babae kung based sa experience namin kaya kami nag adjust? Sasabihin nyo lalaki dapat mag adjust. Okay. Edi continue nyo ginagawa nyo pero wag kayo iiyak pag binastos ulit kayo. Pagod na lang kami mabastos kaya kami na nag adjust.
Haynakooo, iyong mga nagdedefend kay karla dito it’s either di pa nila nararanasan ma cat-call kahit balot na balot na o kaya mga avid fan ng kathniel. Admit niyo na kasi na ung “Queen Mother” niyo isn’t queenly, walang wisdom. Naswertehan lang niya na sumikat ung anak niya at nahila siya pabalik sa showbiz.
Sorry sa mga upper post, na di maka comprehend sa meaning ni Karla but Karla this time makes sense, bakit selective ang tao though? hypocrite din kasi ang labas nyan, pag pogi or cute ok pa objectify kasi nakaka ganda/gwapo sa ego, pero pag panget di na pwede? Scream manyak at bastos agad? How about some women who objectify men? Pag women we scream na they are objectidied perp pag men keri coz lalaki lang naman sila? Hypocrites i tell you. at walang victim blaming dito, di na ba pwede maging formal talaga,naayon magsuot, oo sure nasa tao yan how she/he views people di sa victim, pero at the same time at least protect yourself pa din, masama na pala na to dress up na naayon di ako na inform
Unfortunately, di natin makokontrol kung anong iisipin ng mga lalaking sadyang mga manyakis kaya nasa sa atin na rin kung pano natin iingatan ang ating mga sarili. Kung magpopost ka ng provocative pictures in public dapat handa ka sa possible na maging comments ng mga tao o kaya disable mo na lang ang comment section.
Totally agree with you. We can wear whatever we want but we must also be prepared sa iba't ibang comments,positive/ negative especially if we post it for the public to see...
603 bra ba yung nakita mo underneath her shirt, diba parang may sapaw pa nga. Maygas talaga tong mga to. Buti nlang waley na kami sa Pinas at ganito ka backward ang utak ng iba.
Her advice was in the presence of the wrong person who is just 14 years old, wrong place, wrong time , wrong topic. Victim blaming, would you do that to your own daughter?
Eh di iadvise mo lahat ng lalaki sa buong mundo 2:57 AM..let's see how you can do it..you can't even identify each one of those who think dirty.. mas realistic yung kay 1:54 AM..
Lol anong pinagsasabi ng babaita na ito, sya nga kahit anong isuot nya kita pa din na malaki ang boobs nya. Kahit balot na balot ka pa-kung dirty minded magisip ang tao sa katawan-boobs pa din mapapatingin. Turuan ang mga lalaki rumespeto at wag magobjectify ng mga babae.
Everyone's entitled to one's own opinion. It's a free, democratic world. May conservative at liberated thinking. Respect each other's point of view. And I respect Karla's point of view, that's her. No need to SHAME ON PEOPLE for having a different opinion than yours!!! #mytwocents
I do NOT like Karla but SHE IS RIGHT huwag na tayo mag-utu-an. Yung totoo, anong dahilan bakit ang mga babae nagsusoot ng revealing clothes labas kaluluwa ANO TALAGA? Walang lokohan ha!
Ayaw na ayaw ko si Karla pero agree ako sa kanya. Male or female kung mag papa sexy ka for sure you will attract "those" people. Ang tao may natural instinct na hindi mo yan maaalis. Maybe hindi man sila nag comment pero in their private time, gamit na gamit ka if u know what i mean. Kaya it all boils down to being mindful. Example lang, masama magnakaw diba and may parusa na yan pero people still do it kaya tayo pag nasa labas doble ingat dahil alam mong anjan pa din sila. Yes kasalanan ng magnanakaw and walang kang kasalanan but will u still continue to be burara?! Unrealistic yung pa woke na kesyo anyone can wear anything and dapat walang pupuna. May mga mata po ang tao
Bakit bagay ba ang babae?parang nag compare ka ng apple at lion. Alam mo ba mas gusto ng rapists ang maayos ang damit at mukhang lalaban na biktima. Narape ako ng 7yrs old ako tingin mo inakit ko tito ko?
Eh wala naman akong nakitang bastos sa picture ni Xyriel wala ngang nakita nagkataon lang malaki ang breast niya. Di niya kasalanan iyon dahil lahi niya mother niya ganoon din pero wala akong kabastusan na nakikita di niya kasalanan kung malaki ang hinaharap niya.
She is a mom, yung point of view niya is better be safe than sorry. This is for prevention. Iba naman yung pag nangyare na yung harrassment or assault, syempre hindi sisisihin yung victim regardless anong suot niya.
Maraming beses ako nabastos pero maayos ang damit ko. Nakapants and blouse pero hinabol ako ng lasing and ngayon may asawa na ako pero yung kabitbahay ko madalas invade personal space ko sa harap ngang asawa nya sasabihan ako sexy...kahit ano pa damit mo kung bastos at walang modo ang lalake babastusin ka. Turuan ang mga lalake gumalang.
Ako likas na hubadera, I don't decide what to wear para pagnasaan ng lalaki, I like dressing up because I look good in them and that makes me feel confident and happy, and also practical napaka init sa pilipinas jusko, Dami2 maganda na damit na masaya suotin bat ako magtitiis sa mga long-sleeves at pantalon na boring so ano ako yung magaadjust para sa mga manyakis? Katawan namin to choice namin kung ano isusuot at pwede ba wag nyo sabihin na oo choice mo pero di mo macocontrol magisip iba. Kayanga dba magsimula tayo na icondemn ang mga manyakis at hindi yung mga babae sa mga mindset nyo parang ninonormalize nyo na pag di maria clara suot mo katangap tangap kana bastusin.
No victim blaming but she has a point. Eto na lang, since she’s still a minor, pede naman sya sabihan or remind ng parents niya. I know I won’t let my minor daughter post something like that, iwas gulo na din.
Bakit ba lagi sinasabi na victim blaming pag sinabi na protektahan ang sarili? I mean reality is ikaw ang unang protekta sa sarili mo oo masama magrape and mag molest or sensualize pero halimbawa if nagiisang babae ka wag ka makipag inuman sa mga lalaki na kakakilala mo lang online,dun pumpasok yung responsibility mo sa sarili mo, parang kung ayaw mo manakawan diba ilolock mo yung bahay mo. labas yung xyrile issue since balot naman siya sa mga pictures niya I am talking in general.
These social media platforms should responsibly set an age restriction. Just saying hindi pera pera lang to gain subscribers. Government should regulate it.
Bakit hindi na ba puedeng may difference of opinion and beliefs na tayo? Let Karla says what she wants and let the girl wear and do what she wants (may parents naman ata to teach her moral values, etc). Netizens should not impose their "right" belief. Live and let live.
Kung nasa skwaters area ka example madami tlgang mambabastos sau or sbihin na natin kung may nadaanan kang nacconstruct na bahay. Kahit maayos suot mbbastos ka. Dito kasi social media ig, majority naman matitino magisip ang tao at meron ding bastos tlaga. Ano bang sitwasyon ni xyriel. Oo bata pero malaki ang hinaharap. Manipis ang damit. Her image before ay child star sympre magugulat ang publiko dun. Normal na magreact ang tao. Pero tignan nyo ung ibng bata na kaedaran nya na artista nababastos ba ng ganun? Hindi naman db? Oo kung natural na ganun katawan ni xyriel ang sinasbi protektahan nya lng sarili nya dhil d mo naman mcocontrol pg iisip ng tao. Wag magalit or mainis dun. Suot nlng si ineng ng hindi masyadong manipis na kita na panloob. Try to hide by wearing maluwag na shirts. Pero kung d kaya accept nalng ung masasbi ng iba. Kasi may choice ka naman to protect urself.
Although i agree with Karla saying that women should be responsible in posting on social media, but in xyriel's case, i dont think its proper to tell a 14 year old that. because she's a minor and she needs protection from sexual predators. what she's wearing was not revealing at all. just a fitted shirt. its the same as wearing fitted jeans and leggings. Its not right to shame this child for wearing something that any decent teenager would wear. Its not her fault. However its a different story if its an adult who wears revealing outfits. it is never right to call out a minor for things like these . I would have admired karla if she called the attention of xyriel's parents.
Hindi agad agad mababago ang thinking ng mga lalaki. So habang tinuturuan silang rumespeto at huwag mangmanyak, tulungan din muna natin sila by not wearing provocative clothes. Kapag okay na, marunong na sila, by all means, get naked if you want. This is in general.
Noong bata pa lang ako tinuturuan na ako mag protect sa sarili ko na binigyan ako ng pepper spray at nag karate for 3 years for self defense. I think ngayon dapat kalalakihan naman ang mag adjust.
Dear millennials, Do not allow online social media to overtake your well-being. Not everything is worth posting. There is such a thing as privacy to certain aspects to yourself.
True! I am well endowed and I wear 2 pc sa beach pero all of the photos are just saved in my phone at never sa socmed. Why? Kasi I want to. I never went to the beach and buy cute swimwears for the likes. I did it for myself. Iba kasi talaga dating pag well endowed eh.
I lived a happy life pre internet social media days. Batang 70s here. Fact: Social media made life stressful, like making one FOMO (Fear of Missing Out)-phobic. Real talk.
Actually nakita ko yung picture ni Xyriel naka tshirt siya at naka jeans wala naman pinapakitang skin. Nagkataon lang malaki ang kaniyang boobs kasi nasa genes niya iyon hindi naman bastusin exagerrated lang ang mga tao.
Bec shes open minded. Hindi nya kinakampihan ung mga bastos. Sa tingin mo ba kung ginawa nya yon titigil na sila at wala ng bastos sa mundo? Ang babae nga dapat kayanin nila at maging smart sa ganitong bagay. Kasi hndi naman makapangyarihan si karla to do that. Payo lang maibibigay nya.
Hindi na sya babastosin non kung simple tshirt lang at jeans. Yung unang lumabas kasi na shirt na manipis ang may dila pa atang picture sya nabastos. Wag na kasi magsuot ng ganon.
There must be some underlying reason why she made a selfie of herself that way. We all know why - to attract attention. Some unwanted is the risk of it. Not everybody is educated is a given fact of life. So she also took the risk for that. This. World . Is. Not. Perfect. That’s why man invented prison cells. Gets.
Kaya nga. You want to share your pics for the likes and attention, then do it. Pero kasama na dyan yung comments. For us that wants to live a slightly private life, edi hayaan nyo din kami. Just because nag iingat kami e "victim blaming" na agad yung pag iisip namin. Kanya kanya lang yan.
She used to be a child actor dba and all of a sudden dalaga na sya and her breasts really developed. Tapos she wore pa a super fitted tshirt. Hello!?!? Kahit anu pa sabhhin nyo mama ko never ako pinagsusuot ng ganung damit kagit teenager nako kse nga tinuro sakin bastusin yung ganun. Men will always be men, nung araw pa panahon pa po niMaria Clara, ankle nga lang na arouse na sila nun eh.
So, gurl lagi ka nalang nka longsleeve maski nasa Pinas ka na ang init init. Kawawa ka nman. Lol, Fitted shirt pa lang yan ha at nakashorts at pantalon pa c Xyril, ano ba sinusuot mo? 😂
May nanay na naggpapayo kay xyriel minamasama nyo? Walang dahilan si momsh karls na mapunta sa d maganda ung bata. Para rin naman sa lahat yon. Wag maging mapusok at unahin respetuhin ang sarili. Madaming msasamang tao sa mundo, masasamang pag iisip. Kung mabait lahat ng tao edi sana d na tayo pinaparusahan ng Diyos. Fact na po un at d mo pwede sabihin na ui wala kang nakita ha? Wag tayo mgpaka tanga. Sorry for the word. As much as possible kayanin natin ihandle ang mga ganyang tao na masama ang sinasabi sayo.
Bakit ba pinagpipilitan nyong wala sa kasuotan ang pambabastos? Sige lumabas na lang tayong lahat ng nakahubad. At gawin na natin yung normal para makasanayan na ng mga tao. Game???
Magtaka rin kayo sino ba mga bata ngayon na kasing edad si xyriel na naissue ang photo? Maliban nlng kung minor tps nagbikini. Kung naging usap usapan si xyriel sa photo nya then theres something wrong and kailangan pa iimprove. Wala taung magagawa kung maraming bastos. Hindi nten kontrolado un. Kung pwede nga lng makulong na lang lahat ng bastos eh.
Yon lang maganda kay karla ung pranka sya pero may mga maiinis sympre. Kung mahal nyo ung bata at concern kayo suwayin nyo ung mali nya para maitama. Kung halimbawa kinampihan nyo si xyriel na magusoot padin ng mga masisikip then accept nyo kung ano ang magigng reaksyon ng tao.
In my opinion, it sad that there are few women or girls who are suffering from psychological manifestation of attention seeking behavior even if their way to get it is through socmed by posting pics wearing sexy clothes at this present digital age. They gain satisfaction from being watched, followed, praised and fantasized by people in general - men, women and others. From there, they feel loved, accepted, socially relevant, and pleasantly attractive.
This is not just about women or girls screaming for their freedom to wear what they are comfortable with in public as their means of self-expression.
There may be underlying factors having such beliefs and behaviors that contrast the traditional social norms and common moral values. The pressure may be coming from home, their communities they belong to or peers they often interact with.
Gets naman kung confident si xyrel sa pananamit nya but if u cant accept the consequences, ikaw na dapat ang mag adjust. Lahat tayo ayaw na nababastos so iiwas tayo. Lumugar nlng tayo like kung mga friends mo lng kasama mo edi suot ka ng mga sexy at fitted clothes. Alam mo din na blessed ka s hinaharap sympre type yan ng mga guys. Pag binalandra mo yan edi ililike nila or magcocomment sila ng kung anong gusto nila.
I agree that we should condemned those men who are blatantly sexualizing women. However, respect goes two-way. In order for other people to respect you, you yourself must be the one to respect yourself. Let us not use the excuse that we should be able to wear whatever we want because we are comfortable with it especially when we know that those outfits are too revealing and are really sexy outfit. Aren't we also comfortable wearing blouse which are exposing our cleavage, thighs etc.? The fact that we already knew that there are many sexual predator on the internet, it isn't bad that we take care of ourselves by limiting what we are posting especially that laws protecting us from crimes committed online are not limited and not properly implemented.
ReplyDeleteNahilo ako teh ��✌��
DeleteThey'll call us victim blamers without even thinking that we were the actual victims before and we just learned how to adjust and protect outselves.
DeleteXyriel never exposed her cleavage. She's just a teenager wearing what a NORMAL teenager would wear. Yung mga taong malisyoso are the ones who are sexualizing her for having ample assets.
DeleteAgree ako sa sinabi mo 11:37!
DeleteNahilo ka 12:21? O di mo naintindihan ung simpleng english? Lol!
Nope. Victim blaming 101. Women everywhere are harassed even while wearing the "proper outfits." They weren't "asking for it," and yet it still happened.
DeleteWomen should be able to wear whatever we want, and post what we want. The solution to all the sexual predators on the internet is not to silence the women, but to teach men to be better. There is no prey without a PREDATOR. There is no sexual harassment without the HARASSER. There is no rape without RAPISTS. Teach men to be better instead of having women conform for something they have no fault in.
So parang sinasabi mo na pag nagsuot ng revealing clothes hindi na nirerespeto ang sarili?
Delete12:21 perfectly clear naman. Read more books ✌🏻
DeleteMejo circuitous pero I agree with your point, 11:37.
Delete12:28 - so as a former victim, your solution to this problem of men taking advantage of women and sexual harassment, is for the women to adjust? No, sis, no. Ikaw nanga biktima ikaw pa nagaadjust. It shouldn't be that way.
DeleteTama si @12:30 AM. Its 2020 na and women should be empowered! Can you post more pictures of you and your ASSets? :)
Delete11:37 sa IG yung mga nagdedemand ng RESPECT e yung mga nagbibilad ng mga cleavage, puwet, singit at mga hita! Yung mga lalaki naman "marerespeto" naman dahil mabablock sila pag bastos sila! Hahahahahaha! Hindi na nila makikita pagnagpost ng mga bagong pics kaya bilang ganti nung mga nabblock e nerereport nila yung mga accounts.
Deleteyeah tayo na lang ang mag adjust. nakakahiya naman sa mga bastos diba kung papatigilin naten sila
Delete12.21 te ang linaw. Baka malabo lang signal mo. Hehe
DeleteI agree with 11:37
Delete12:43 no, sis. Sa panahon ngayon importante yung peace within yourself. Now i can fall asleep without being hunted sa mga pambabastos. Kanya kanya na lang.
DeleteA blouse is not designed to cover thighs
Delete12.34 only the law can teach them that if somebody files lawsuit on them.
DeleteDiba naka tshirt nman c Xyril sa mga posts nya at may pa sapaw pa nga sa ilalim pero binastos pa rin..lol, jusko Lord kasalanan na pala ngayon ang may malaking hinaharap. Kawawa nman.
DeleteDUDE 11:37
DeleteMY BODY . MY RULES.
Wag ka ngang victim
Blamer!
yes - your body, your rules. you can wear whatever you want in public, however, you cannot control the dirty mind of a manyak. sabi nga, even those who are well covered are subject to pambabastos, how much more if one wears revealing clothes na takaw attention. So sino ang mag aadjust? Remember, we cannot control the action of people around us, but we can control ours.
Delete2:03 AM no, hindi kasalanan magkaroon ng malaking hinaharap but if it's my body, I will protect it by all means.
Delete12:34 AM how do you teach men to be better?
Delete12:55 AM what for? For other people's affirmation? People you might not even know?
Delete11:37 and 3:10 Truth. i agree.
DeleteI have to agree with 11:37pm hindi sa victim blaming while it is true that you van wear anything that you want you also have to be responsible with what you post and wear. While it is also true that we have to teach men to be better and that rape is not right we have to face the reality that we can not teach every predators, but we can teach ourselves to be responsible. Yes may mga nasesensualize or namomolest kahit balot na but that doesn't mean na we can't take extra precautions to protect ourselves. You can wear bikini sa beach since appropriate naman yun dun,pero posing seductively and posting it online will all boils down to what is your goal with that post?.
DeleteBy all means wear whatever you want to wear kahit pa nipplets lang suotin nyo! But keep in mind that no matter how much we educate the manyaks, THEY WILL NEVER CHANGE! Just like mga magnanakaw, serial killer etc. so pag binastos kayo habang nakabilad katawan nyo wag kayong sisigaw ng justice at stop sexual harassment dahil wala kayong magagawa sa mga taong ganun.
DeleteYes. It is your right. But it is also your responsibility na protektahan sarili mo against predators. We should condemn those predators and persecute them pero protektahan mo rin sarili mo. Alam mo na nga may predators at hindi perpekto police and justice system sa atin, pero ikaw pa gagawa ng way para mabastos ka.
DeleteBakit kapag pumupunta ka divisoria, quiapo, sa mrt at sa kung anung mataong lugar, todo kapit ka sa bag, at cellphone mo?
Bakit kontodo lagay ka ng mataas na pader na may barbed wire pa sa bahay mo?
Kasi responsibility mo na protektahan mo sarili mo against predators at masasamang loob.
12:31 Hindi naman kasi simpleng Inggles yung post. Nasobrahan sa ligoy.
DeleteE ganun naman pala na kahit ano suotin nababastos tayo e how much more pag revealing clothes ang suot. I wear short shorts but pag mg commute, syempre ayusin din pananamit. Totoo din na responsibility mo ang pinopost mo. Kaya i checked my daughter's facebook all the time. Iba na panahon ngayon mga girls, madaming masasamang tao. Di naman masama na mag ingat at maging responsable.
DeleteWouldnt it be nice if we can wear whatever we want? Unfortunately, we are not living in a perfect world. Iba iba pag iisip ng tao, Kahit ano pang level nyan sa society, lalake man o babae. Mas magaling lang mag control ang iba. Kaya kung kaya nating iwasan, gawin natin.
DeleteYour body your rules. So as your mind your rules. Your mouth your rules. Hanggat walang physical contact wag tayong magpakilalamanan.
DeleteGooorl nakita mo ba suot ni Xyril sa mga pics? Ni hindi nga labas cleavage!! Walang masyadong skin na kita!
DeleteAgree 3:10
Deleteyung nakatira ka sa mainit na bansa pero kelangan mong ibalot sarili mo dahil sa mga manyakis. oh my gosh. tsaka hindi talaga revealing suot nya. wala tayo magagawa kung gifted sya.
Deletedapat ang biktima hindi sinisisi. kasalan ba nya blessed sya. tsaka wag inormalize specially men na malibog, manloloko ng asawa, manyak. Stop it.
Deletestop being karen. kaya 3rd world country tayo mas inuuna makialam sa buhay ng iba kaysa sa problema ng sariling pamilya.
DeleteExcuse me Anon 1137? Alam mo bang nabastos ako sa bus while wearing longsleeve and below the knee skirt? Pupunta kong interview non, and don ko narealized walang pinipiling pananamit ang manyak. Pag manyak ka. manyak ka
DeleteKorek 11:10 walang pinipili ang manyak. Kahit naka mahaba ka pang damit mamanyakin ka padin. So kasalanan pa din yun ng babae? Babae na lang lagi me kasalnan, ang lalaki kasi naturalesa nila daw. Isang malaking joke, dapat baguhin na yun mga toxic at backwards na pananaw
DeleteKarla? I am not surprised at all.
ReplyDeleteMay point naman, kudos to her for being a realistic mom
ReplyDelete11:58am True. Kung nanay ka yan din sasabihin mo sa anak mo diba. Not because victim blaming, its prevention.
Deleteagree 11:58, for me may point si karla oi. realtalk na tayo, social media is a veryyyyyyyy delikadong "area".. think before we click na lang talaga..
DeleteShe has a point. Both men are women should observe respect of each other differences.
ReplyDeletevictim blamer
DeleteNo, she's just being realistic.. that's why I dont wear short shorts in public because I dont want to attract attention..
DeleteNot a victim blamer. We all agree that sexual harrassment towards women are flooding the internet and the whole world these days. Shame on these men who couldnt contain their lustful thoughts to themselves.
DeleteHowever, women should also be responsible with their actions. I am a woman, but when i see a girl wearing a skimpy short and crop shirt with cleavage showing, i cant help but to judge. Its a human nature to think sexual. Men are notoriously sexual in nature. Most men can control their thoughts and actions but unfortunately there are sick men who just cant! And these are the people you hoped you wont encounter face to face with.
This topic wont end, but the bottom line is, girl need to be careful
weh? baka madami ka lang peklat! char!
DeleteI think it is not victim blaming we just can't control others but we can protect ourselves you can wear anything you like but wear it appropriately if magcomute ka mahirap mag suot ng super ikli na shorts.
DeleteGosh here goes the feeling victim lagi! 12:31 when you deliberately leave your car open with all your valuables inside at ninakawan ka you are not a victim but an idi*t! Only those who are protecting themselves but are still sexually abused are considered a victim! Real world vs your ideal world. Wake up!
DeleteShouldn't be given a platform at all. Invite experts like psychologists for sensitive topics especially if it involves a minor. Keep your opinions to yourself.
ReplyDeleteAnd you're not keeping your opinion to yourself
DeleteKahit di ka psychologist. Kung nanay ka, kapatid ka, pagbawalan mong itiwangwang ng pamilya mo ang katawan nya sa public lalo na minor. Kung malaki ung hinaharap wag mo ng pagsuotin pa ng see through para di takaw pansin
DeleteSis @2:03 malaki hinaharap ko. I don’t wear fit clothes kasi uncomfortable and hulma talaga siya. Kahit naka malaki/maluwag na shirt ako, tumitingin talaga yung tao. Kung manyak talaga, manyak talaga :)
DeleteThis! (anon 2:03). Hindi pagvivictim blame ung mga pinagsasabihan sya or nagaadvise sa kanya. Yan ang hindi maintindihan ng iba dito. Oo you can wear whatever you like. Babae din ako. Pero nasasayo din un kung ano mga ipopost mo jan. At tanggapin kung mapagsabihan ka ng nakakatanda.
DeleteNever really liked Karla. But no, she’s not an expert but she is a mom of 2 teenage girls
DeleteAnon 2:03, eh kaso naka-shirt lang si xyriel sa photos nya. Ni hindi revealing eh. Pano na yan?
DeleteHindi talaga bagay si karla sa morning show.
ReplyDeleteShe should be reprimanded at least. Go get her, Gabriela ��
ReplyDeleteSo a mother advising women to protect themselves from online manyaks deserves to be reprimanded?
DeleteGabriela ka pa dyan? Saka lang yan lalabas pag isyung pulitika na yan
DeleteHindi napagisipan kaya mali ang delivery. Bawiin mo to mamshie hahahaha
ReplyDeleteRemember girls, the "white knight" men who looks like they are fighting for your cause is just waiting to get laid :) Their game is to be on your side and then take advantage of you :)
ReplyDeleteAnong connect sa sinabi ni Karla. Ano dun ka sa hindi ka nirerespeto?
DeleteYou mean the knight In shining armor....what's the use of protecting Them girls if they're not gonna get laid?!
DeleteTrue.
DeleteI have no idea how Karla is still a host? None of those so-called momshies can host a talk show. My God! Buti nalang talaga limited nalang kayong napapanood. Ganyang opinion ba ang iinstill nyo sa mga viewers nyo? Bingong-bingo ka na Karla! Kaloka ka.
ReplyDeletePagisipan mo rin yung katwiran mo bago ka mag comment. Baka di mo naman pinanuod ung buong segment
DeleteI don't see anything wrong what Karla said on that matter. She said it as a concerned mother to her kids as she imparts to young "socmed active girls" to be very careful as well especially posting their pics with protruded body parts as not everyone will be pleased to see it the way they do.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion, it's not the malicious vultures will adjust but the individual herself must also consider their vulnerabilities thinking of any possible consequences may come.
I have a friend who was assaulted despite wearing a very un-revealing un-sexy school uniform. So it's my friend's fault pala because she didn't "adjust". SMH.
Delete1.21 this is not about adjusting. This is about you wanting to control other people minds through whining. Whining cannot make a difference.. But filing a lawsuit. There!
Deletehindi kasalanan ng bata. simpleng t-shirt suot nya. parang si karla kahit nakabalot mahahalata ang kalusugan nya este na gifted din sya.
Delete@1:21 That's exactly the point. the fact that your fully clothed friend was harassed, what more those people who dress the same like Xyrille?
DeleteIn your friend's case? obviously its not her fault. those are 2 different situations as your friend have encountered the perpetrator with all intentions while in Xyrille's? no one intents and notice her after her defunct tv show until she posted pics with her protruded body shape that triggers the perpetrators attention. "kuha mo?"
7:12 Sharing an experience is not whining/complaining. Kaya nga tayo nagco-comment dito sa FP to participate in the discourse. Given the different scenarios, it will always boil down to one thing - unfortunately Women are ALWAYS held liable in everything that they do. Whether balot na balot or dressed provocatively.
Delete255 nakalabas ba ang cleavage ni Xyril sa photos, diba hindi? Maski pa anong luwang ng tshirt nya, makikita mo pa rin na malaki ang hinaharap nya at wla ka ng magagawa dyan.
Delete@5:09 I just do not get the madness, 16 year old wearing tight fitting top, well hugged and emphasized boobs with a stare and pose like it was truly insane!
DeleteAnong gusto nyong i-comment sa kanya? that she's cute?
Honestly, sino na mga nakakita ng mga ppsts ni Xyriel? I understand where Karla is coming from biglang mother siya. Especially in Xyriel's age, hindi dapat ganon yung mga posts niya. I mean check her posts bago kayo magalit sakin. I'm not saying na kunsintihin yung mga lalaki pero as "girls" meaning minor girls, dapat ibagay din nila sa age nila yung mga suot at actions nila.
ReplyDeleteThose tight fitting boob shaping shirts!
DeleteThe see through shirts and seductive poses. Dami kasi pabebe dito without even seeing the whole context. Babae din ako. Alam ko yung ganon na pakiramdam. Kaya nga i dont post my pics na sexy e privacy ko na yun. Tapos babanatan nila kesyo she’s still a minor. Minor ka nga tapos magsusuot ka ng ganyan at ipost mo. Wag tayong utak na puro victim blaming. Kapag may nangyari sa inyo, iiyak ka na lang? No! Dapat una pa lang nag iingat ka na.
DeleteI agree!! Nakatshirt cya yes, but very seductive ang face and pose. Not really an innocent post, as she claims.
DeleteBoob shaping shirts? Ang tawag dun "baby tee". Kapag pinasuot yun sa flat chested na babae, ok lang? Pero kay Xyriel na nagkataong pinagpala, hindi nya puede suotin?
DeleteHindi kasalnan ni Xyriel malaki ang boobs niya lahat tayo nagsusuot ng ganiyang tshirt fitted tshirts nagkataoon lang maliit ang mga boobs natin so hindi masiydong na eemphazie yung laki ng breast specially yung walang boobs na maliit lang.
Delete11:53 alam mo yung size of your clothing doesnt just depend sa size ng mismong body. you have to consider the boobs. small frame ako pero med-large yung boobs ko. Syempre med-large binibili ko na swimsuits. Bakit ko ipipilit yung small sa akin e hindi nga small yung boobs ko.
DeleteShe said both men and women are equally responsible. True naman.
ReplyDeleteRight!
Deletepero madalas mga babae ang nag tatake ng responsinlity not to be raped or abused
DeleteMalamang katawan natin to so tayo ang responsible na alagaan ito at ilayo sa mga masasamang elemento... so ano, magpopost lang tayo tapos hayaan natin ang iba na maging responsable sa post natin?
DeleteNo. Just NO! The only one responsible for harassing is the harasser. The only one responsible for a rape is the rapist. My gosh the level of victim blaming here is disgusting.
DeleteShame on you, Karla. It's not her fault. Shame the harassers not the victim!
ReplyDeleteWalang rape Kung walang rapist
Walang biktima Kung walang nambibiktima
Walang mababastos Kung walang nambabastos
Turuan Ang mga anak na lalake na maging respectful sa kababaihan kahit ano pa suot nila. It starts at home.
At turuan din ang anak na babae kung paano pangalagaan ang katawan nila. Just because you can means you should. Alam mong malaki ang hinaharap mo pero magsusuot ka ng sobrang nipis at see through na tela tapos one size smaller sayo and you’ll expect na walang titingin sayo?
DeleteI’m with you. Men with no shirt on can stand outside and they get no harassment. Tapos itong bata fully clothed na nga nababastos pa. And hello shes’s only what 16. Tapos sya ang i blame? Kahiya naman sa inyo mga tito at tita na yung bata pa i school nyo. You are slowly tearing down the kid’s self esteem just because she was born with genes that gave her big boobs?!? If you do that to my child, sorry pero papatulan ko kayo.
DeleteSa Arab regions lalaki mga nirerape dahil nakikita ng mga arabo legs nila. Mga babae kasi dun kahit mukha takip kaya hindi nila mapagnasahan. Yung mga OFWs naman na mga maids e hindi kasi full balot kaya ang taas ng pagnanasa sa kanila.
Delete1:28 you think Arab women don’t get raped?!
DeleteI totally agree with her.
ReplyDeleteI agree with her though.
ReplyDeleteWhy is Karla talking like Xyriel posted a naked picture online? She was literally dressed appropriately. It just so happens may curves Ang body Niya naturally. So given this advice, dapat Naka malaking damit lagi si Xyriel para Hindi mapansin Ang body shape Niya?
ReplyDeleteNaiisip ko palang, naaawa na ako sa mga babaeng malalaki ang hinaharap na hindi pwedeng fit ang damit. Lol, jusko ano kayang masasabi nitong Karla nato pag nasa ibang bansa lalo nat summer at yung mga babae halos nasa singit na yung short at skirt.
DeleteIbang bansa un girl, iba dito sa Pilipinas
Deleteyah yung ibang artista kahit walang boobs sobrang pakita ng mga skin yung iba nga nagppaenhance pa ng boobs para lang masabing ma appeal sila na kahit bastusin na ang dating nila
Delete2.06 dito sa America, hindi whining ang uso dito. Sa pinas yan ang uso. Big difference eh? Pero ang problema nila dito in some states, na hindi masolve ay yong mga magnanakaw ng packages sa porch nila. But still they dont just whine like that but rather do something about it at least.
DeleteLet’s all get naked on Instagram and cry foul when objectified. I think that’s what the so called woke millenials are talking about. Ok na? Masaya na?
ReplyDeletetake up ka ng art course kahit basic lang tapos check mo kung na oobjectify ba
Deletetheir point was - since when did xyriel post a pic of herself naked or not looking decent on social media? she was dressed appropriately but was still a target to manyaks and was objectified. stop exaggerating lol
Deletepag mag take ka ng course na related sa art. hindi talaga inoobjectify ang mga naked people. And lahat tayo may katawan. it's the intention.
DeleteHahaha, may bago pa ba kay Karla?
ReplyDeleteI don’t like Karla either pero tama naman sya... maybe the delivery could’ve been more sensitive but the content is correct IMO. And it doesn’t apply to Xyriel, in general lang yung sinasabi nya.
ReplyDeleteLet’s not forget hindi naman pa-holier than thou si Karla. She was a sexy actress before.
I agree with you mars. Kung sa babae ka na nga makita mo ung kapwa mo babae na ganun ung suot parang mapapacomment ka, sa lalaki pa kaya na alam naman natin kung ano nature nila. Sa tingin nyo bakit kailangan nating magdamit ng disente sa simbahan? Kase kahit pari pa yan kahit na holy pa yang taong yan, hindi man yan mag take action, dumudumi isip nyan.
DeleteKorek, 1:58!
Deletemay iba't iba rin naman naiisp ang mga babae pero hindi sila ang nangrarape
DeleteExcuse me @3:01 but there are also a lot of female predators. May stigma lang kapag lalake ang nagreklamo kaya mag-isip isip ka muna.
DeleteIn an elevator, a girl was in front of me wearing a very sexy dress, kita cleavage. I was wearing shirt and shorts- may mga paakyat na lalaki. Guess sino ang tinitigan from head to foot? We were both girls btw. So should she sue those guys dahil manyak tingin nila dun sa girl? We cant control them but we can control what we show in public. That's reality. Sad but true.
Deletei saw a video of some girls na sumasayaw ng kanta ni andrew E habang nakalabas ang dila at umuungol, etong mga ganitong babae ang pinagsasabihan at yung mga ganung action ng babae ang hindi tinotolerate pero yung mga pananamit just like xyriel yun dapat ang walang malisya, let the girls wear whatever they want to wear.
ReplyDeleteTama naman sya ah!
ReplyDeleteMay point naman si karla at may point din yong mga taong ayaw maging responsible sa pinopost. Kung ayaw ninyo maging responsible you have to talk the talk and walk the walk. Sue the bastard!
ReplyDeleteAng hirap kc sa mga millenials masyadong idealistic. Dapat ganito ang mga lalake, dapat ganyan etc. Yes, ideally dapat ang mga lalake may respeto sa mga babae, hindi dapat nagsesexualize etc. Kaso in reality hindi kasi un nangyayari. We have to be realistic than idealistic. I agree with her, for the first time ngaun lang ako nag agree sa sinabi ni karla. Pero totoo kasi na we have to be very cautious with what we post in social media. I don't honestly get why there are girls out there who loves to show off their boobies, cleavage and body in social media tapos pag nabastos they'll scream respect. Lalo na sa tiktok na parang ginawa ng porn site. And please stop using the word victim blaming sa mga taong di naga-agree sa inyo just to justify ung pinaglalaban nyong sexy ootd and photos. You can disagree with us but don't call us victim blamer, because not everyone agrees with you.
ReplyDeletenaalala ko lang yung napanuod kong tiktok girls na sumasayaw and dumidila habang kinakanta yung "and boom walang daplis at ang sabe niya oh ah ah ah" like minsan may mga babae ding papansin at gustong pinagnanasaan ng lalake just to get likes and followers, aminin natin maraming influencer ang ganyan ang mindset target ang mga manyak dagdag pangkabuhayan showcase.
Deleteso tanggapin na lang natin yung mali ano
DeleteCouldnt agree more! At paano ba naging victim blamers mga babae kung based sa experience namin kaya kami nag adjust? Sasabihin nyo lalaki dapat mag adjust. Okay. Edi continue nyo ginagawa nyo pero wag kayo iiyak pag binastos ulit kayo. Pagod na lang kami mabastos kaya kami na nag adjust.
DeleteYour whole paragraph is core of victim blaming my dear. That mentality is what contributes to the whole culture of it.
DeleteThis coming from someone with her history of how she started in showbiz. That's fresh 🙄
ReplyDeleteprobably that's why she said it. it was based on experience.
Deleteand don't think it's victim blaming but being realistic.
malaki na nga boobs mo or whatever, mga posts mo pa something na mas nageemphasize Neto. so what is really the point of it.
Haynakooo, iyong mga nagdedefend kay karla dito it’s either di pa nila nararanasan ma cat-call kahit balot na balot na o kaya mga avid fan ng kathniel. Admit niyo na kasi na ung “Queen Mother” niyo isn’t queenly, walang wisdom. Naswertehan lang niya na sumikat ung anak niya at nahila siya pabalik sa showbiz.
ReplyDeleteWOMEN CAN WEAR WHATEVER THEY WANT !
You said Women can wear whatever they want. Where though? Pag sa public ang sagot mo the answer is NO. Why? Check it with your lawyer.
DeleteSorry sa mga upper post, na di maka comprehend sa meaning ni Karla but Karla this time makes sense, bakit selective ang tao though? hypocrite din kasi ang labas nyan, pag pogi or cute ok pa objectify kasi nakaka ganda/gwapo sa ego, pero pag panget di na pwede? Scream manyak at bastos agad? How about some women who objectify men? Pag women we scream na they are objectidied perp pag men keri coz lalaki lang naman sila? Hypocrites i tell you. at walang victim blaming dito, di na ba pwede maging formal talaga,naayon magsuot, oo sure nasa tao yan how she/he views people di sa victim, pero at the same time at least protect yourself pa din, masama na pala na to dress up na naayon di ako na inform
ReplyDeletekahit mag protect ka sa sarili mo may manyak pa rin. Public figure si karla estrada na isa sya sa mga nakakainluence ng masa
DeleteUnfortunately, di natin makokontrol kung anong iisipin ng mga lalaking sadyang mga manyakis kaya nasa sa atin na rin kung pano natin iingatan ang ating mga sarili. Kung magpopost ka ng provocative pictures in public dapat handa ka sa possible na maging comments ng mga tao o kaya disable mo na lang ang comment section.
ReplyDeletenaka t-shirt lang yung bata. ano ba ang hindi umaandar sa utak mo?
DeleteTotally agree with you. We can wear whatever we want but we must also be prepared sa iba't ibang comments,positive/ negative especially if we post it for the public to see...
DeleteHindi siya provocative. She is well endowed which is not her fault. She's dressed properly. Isa ka pa.
DeleteNaka tishirt na see through at ang posing parang darna na un ang focal point ng litrato.
Delete603 bra ba yung nakita mo underneath her shirt, diba parang may sapaw pa nga. Maygas talaga tong mga to. Buti nlang waley na kami sa Pinas at ganito ka backward ang utak ng iba.
DeleteThere was nothing wrong with what Karla said. We should be responsible for what we post.I would give the same advice to my daughter.
ReplyDeletealam mo yung daughter mo lang yung may advice? yun yung problem eh.
DeleteKorek! same advice i would give to my daughter as well. 1:54am
DeleteHer advice was in the presence of the wrong person who is just 14 years old, wrong place, wrong time , wrong topic. Victim blaming, would you do that to your own daughter?
Deleteanak kasalanan mo pag nabastos ka. ganong advice ba ahhahahah
DeleteEh di iadvise mo lahat ng lalaki sa buong mundo 2:57 AM..let's see how you can do it..you can't even identify each one of those who think dirty.. mas realistic yung kay 1:54 AM..
DeleteHahahahaha, she is always clueless about everything. Puro blah blah lang siya kahit na walang sense. Mabunganga lang si lola. Shameless.
ReplyDeleteYikes, better shut up Karla. You are annoying and shallow. Blaming the victim because you don’t know the issue.
ReplyDeleteLol, why is she even a celeb. She is old and has no talent for anything. She knows nothing.
ReplyDeleteI agree on her too :) Sabi nga ng Nanay ko at tatay ko nung bata pa ako “alam mo na ang Tama at mali”. Yun Lang :)
ReplyDeletemali ang mangbastos
Deletewhat does big boobs got to do with it.?
DeleteLol anong pinagsasabi ng babaita na ito, sya nga kahit anong isuot nya kita pa din na malaki ang boobs nya. Kahit balot na balot ka pa-kung dirty minded magisip ang tao sa katawan-boobs pa din mapapatingin. Turuan ang mga lalaki rumespeto at wag magobjectify ng mga babae.
ReplyDeleteEveryone's entitled to one's own opinion. It's a free, democratic world. May conservative at liberated thinking. Respect each other's point of view. And I respect Karla's point of view, that's her. No need to SHAME ON PEOPLE for having a different opinion than yours!!! #mytwocents
ReplyDeleteI will respect your right to voice out your opinions. But I won’t respect your opinions if they are damaging and wrong.
DeleteI do NOT like Karla but SHE IS RIGHT huwag na tayo mag-utu-an. Yung totoo, anong dahilan bakit ang mga babae nagsusoot ng revealing clothes labas kaluluwa ANO TALAGA? Walang lokohan ha!
ReplyDeletenakita mo ba suot nung bagets nung nabastos sya?
DeleteEdi magpapansin lalo na sa social media
DeleteAyaw na ayaw ko si Karla pero agree ako sa kanya. Male or female kung mag papa sexy ka for sure you will attract "those" people. Ang tao may natural instinct na hindi mo yan maaalis. Maybe hindi man sila nag comment pero in their private time, gamit na gamit ka if u know what i mean. Kaya it all boils down to being mindful. Example lang, masama magnakaw diba and may parusa na yan pero people still do it kaya tayo pag nasa labas doble ingat dahil alam mong anjan pa din sila. Yes kasalanan ng magnanakaw and walang kang kasalanan but will u still continue to be burara?! Unrealistic yung pa woke na kesyo anyone can wear anything and dapat walang pupuna. May mga mata po ang tao
ReplyDeleteBakit bagay ba ang babae?parang nag compare ka ng apple at lion. Alam mo ba mas gusto ng rapists ang maayos ang damit at mukhang lalaban na biktima. Narape ako ng 7yrs old ako tingin mo inakit ko tito ko?
Deleteok pag nanakawan ka kasalanan mo pa pala. hindi nung magnanakaw. gets
DeleteThis!
DeleteKorek ka dyan. Ingat as much as possible.
DeleteEh wala naman akong nakitang bastos sa picture ni Xyriel wala ngang nakita nagkataon lang malaki ang breast niya. Di niya kasalanan iyon dahil lahi niya mother niya ganoon din pero wala akong kabastusan na nakikita di niya kasalanan kung malaki ang hinaharap niya.
Delete423 hay na sad ako sa nangyari sa iyo.
Delete4:23 Oh no. I have no words :(
DeleteShe is a mom, yung point of view niya is better be safe than sorry. This is for prevention. Iba naman yung pag nangyare na yung harrassment or assault, syempre hindi sisisihin yung victim regardless anong suot niya.
ReplyDeleteMaraming beses ako nabastos pero maayos ang damit ko. Nakapants and blouse pero hinabol ako ng lasing and ngayon may asawa na ako pero yung kabitbahay ko madalas invade personal space ko sa harap ngang asawa nya sasabihan ako sexy...kahit ano pa damit mo kung bastos at walang modo ang lalake babastusin ka. Turuan ang mga lalake gumalang.
ReplyDeleteThat’s more of an exception than the general rule of character, sis.
DeleteAko likas na hubadera, I don't decide what to wear para pagnasaan ng lalaki, I like dressing up because I look good in them and that makes me feel confident and happy, and also practical napaka init sa pilipinas jusko, Dami2 maganda na damit na masaya suotin bat ako magtitiis sa mga long-sleeves at pantalon na boring so ano ako yung magaadjust para sa mga manyakis? Katawan namin to choice namin kung ano isusuot at pwede ba wag nyo sabihin na oo choice mo pero di mo macocontrol magisip iba. Kayanga dba magsimula tayo na icondemn ang mga manyakis at hindi yung mga babae sa mga mindset nyo parang ninonormalize nyo na pag di maria clara suot mo katangap tangap kana bastusin.
ReplyDeleteNo victim blaming but she has a point. Eto na lang, since she’s still a minor, pede naman sya sabihan or remind ng parents niya. I know I won’t let my minor daughter post something like that, iwas gulo na din.
ReplyDeleteBakit ba lagi sinasabi na victim blaming pag sinabi na protektahan ang sarili? I mean reality is ikaw ang unang protekta sa sarili mo oo masama magrape and mag molest or sensualize pero halimbawa if nagiisang babae ka wag ka makipag inuman sa mga lalaki na kakakilala mo lang online,dun pumpasok yung responsibility mo sa sarili mo, parang kung ayaw mo manakawan diba ilolock mo yung bahay mo. labas yung xyrile issue since balot naman siya sa mga pictures niya I am talking in general.
ReplyDeleteWomen: I feel like... I feel like... I feel like...
ReplyDeleteMen: Dude, just don't wear that !@#$ :)
See the difference? :) Feelings vs. Logic :)
Sa mga nag tatanggol kay Karla, guys.. nakita nyo ba mga suot ni Xyril sa mga pics???? Wala kabastos bastos sa suot nya! Tapos sya pa din sisisihin?
ReplyDeleteCheck her ig. Tight fitting clothes + seductive poses + almost see through tops + SHE'S A MINOR
DeleteThese social media platforms should responsibly set an age restriction. Just saying hindi pera pera lang to gain subscribers. Government should regulate it.
DeleteBakit hindi na ba puedeng may difference of opinion and beliefs na tayo? Let Karla says what she wants and let the girl wear and do what she wants (may parents naman ata to teach her moral values, etc). Netizens should not impose their "right" belief. Live and let live.
ReplyDeleteHindi ako fan ng kathniel at karla pero agree ako sakanya dito.
ReplyDeleteKung nasa skwaters area ka example madami tlgang mambabastos sau or sbihin na natin kung may nadaanan kang nacconstruct na bahay. Kahit maayos suot mbbastos ka. Dito kasi social media ig, majority naman matitino magisip ang tao at meron ding bastos tlaga. Ano bang sitwasyon ni xyriel. Oo bata pero malaki ang hinaharap. Manipis ang damit. Her image before ay child star sympre magugulat ang publiko dun. Normal na magreact ang tao. Pero tignan nyo ung ibng bata na kaedaran nya na artista nababastos ba ng ganun? Hindi naman db? Oo kung natural na ganun katawan ni xyriel ang sinasbi protektahan nya lng sarili nya dhil d mo naman mcocontrol pg iisip ng tao. Wag magalit or mainis dun. Suot nlng si ineng ng hindi masyadong manipis na kita na panloob. Try to hide by wearing maluwag na shirts. Pero kung d kaya accept nalng ung masasbi ng iba. Kasi may choice ka naman to protect urself.
ReplyDeleteNakakainis si karla pero dito lang ako magaagree sknya. May mga anak din sya kaya alam nya paano yan ihandle. Dapat makinig nlng si xyriel.
ReplyDeleteAlthough i agree with Karla saying that women should be responsible in posting on social media, but in xyriel's case, i dont think its proper to tell a 14 year old that. because she's a minor and she needs protection from sexual predators. what she's wearing was not revealing at all. just a fitted shirt. its the same as wearing fitted jeans and leggings. Its not right to shame this child for wearing something that any decent teenager would wear. Its not her fault. However its a different story if its an adult who wears revealing outfits. it is never right to call out a minor for things like these
ReplyDelete. I would have admired karla if she called the attention of xyriel's parents.
Hindi agad agad mababago ang thinking ng mga lalaki. So habang tinuturuan silang rumespeto at huwag mangmanyak, tulungan din muna natin sila by not wearing provocative clothes. Kapag okay na, marunong na sila, by all means, get naked if you want. This is in general.
ReplyDeleteNoong bata pa lang ako tinuturuan na ako mag protect sa sarili ko na binigyan ako ng pepper spray at nag karate for 3 years for self defense. I think ngayon dapat kalalakihan naman ang mag adjust.
DeleteDear millennials, Do not allow online social media to overtake your well-being. Not everything is worth posting. There is such a thing as privacy to certain aspects to yourself.
ReplyDeleteAng daming nagsasabi dito ng ganyan pero sana yung effort na yun tunon na lang sa mga lalaking bastos at turuan ang mga lalaki.
DeleteTrue! I am well endowed and I wear 2 pc sa beach pero all of the photos are just saved in my phone at never sa socmed. Why? Kasi I want to. I never went to the beach and buy cute swimwears for the likes. I did it for myself. Iba kasi talaga dating pag well endowed eh.
DeleteI lived a happy life pre internet social media days. Batang 70s here. Fact: Social media made life stressful, like making one FOMO (Fear of Missing Out)-phobic. Real talk.
Delete3:14 You can’t teach old dogs new tricks, ika nga. Don’t give them temptation to bite up Is a way to unmold their basic instincts.
Deletesana nagalit din sya sa bastos ...kaso mas pinadiinan nya na parang kasalanan pa ng nabastos
ReplyDeleteActually nakita ko yung picture ni Xyriel naka tshirt siya at naka jeans wala naman pinapakitang skin. Nagkataon lang malaki ang kaniyang boobs kasi nasa genes niya iyon hindi naman bastusin exagerrated lang ang mga tao.
DeleteBec shes open minded. Hindi nya kinakampihan ung mga bastos. Sa tingin mo ba kung ginawa nya yon titigil na sila at wala ng bastos sa mundo? Ang babae nga dapat kayanin nila at maging smart sa ganitong bagay. Kasi hndi naman makapangyarihan si karla to do that. Payo lang maibibigay nya.
DeleteHindi na sya babastosin non kung simple tshirt lang at jeans. Yung unang lumabas kasi na shirt na manipis ang may dila pa atang picture sya nabastos. Wag na kasi magsuot ng ganon.
DeleteThere must be some underlying reason why she made a selfie of herself that way. We all know why - to attract attention. Some unwanted is the risk of it. Not everybody is educated is a given fact of life. So she also took the risk for that. This. World . Is. Not. Perfect. That’s why man invented prison cells. Gets.
DeleteIts simple, anything you share sa soc med subject ka na sa scrutiny ng public whether its good or bad you just have to deal with it.
ReplyDeleteKaya nga. You want to share your pics for the likes and attention, then do it. Pero kasama na dyan yung comments. For us that wants to live a slightly private life, edi hayaan nyo din kami. Just because nag iingat kami e "victim blaming" na agad yung pag iisip namin. Kanya kanya lang yan.
DeleteShe used to be a child actor dba and all of a sudden dalaga na sya and her breasts really developed. Tapos she wore pa a super fitted tshirt. Hello!?!? Kahit anu pa sabhhin nyo mama ko never ako pinagsusuot ng ganung damit kagit teenager nako kse nga tinuro sakin bastusin yung ganun. Men will always be men, nung araw pa panahon pa po niMaria Clara, ankle nga lang na arouse na sila nun eh.
ReplyDeleteSo, gurl lagi ka nalang nka longsleeve maski nasa Pinas ka na ang init init. Kawawa ka nman. Lol, Fitted shirt pa lang yan ha at nakashorts at pantalon pa c Xyril, ano ba sinusuot mo? 😂
DeleteGirls, isipin niyo nalang na madaming manyakis sa paligid. It's harder to educate all those men than it is to think for yourself.
ReplyDeleteMay nanay na naggpapayo kay xyriel minamasama nyo? Walang dahilan si momsh karls na mapunta sa d maganda ung bata. Para rin naman sa lahat yon. Wag maging mapusok at unahin respetuhin ang sarili. Madaming msasamang tao sa mundo, masasamang pag iisip. Kung mabait lahat ng tao edi sana d na tayo pinaparusahan ng Diyos. Fact na po un at d mo pwede sabihin na ui wala kang nakita ha? Wag tayo mgpaka tanga. Sorry for the word. As much as possible kayanin natin ihandle ang mga ganyang tao na masama ang sinasabi sayo.
ReplyDeleteBakit ba pinagpipilitan nyong wala sa kasuotan ang pambabastos? Sige lumabas na lang tayong lahat ng nakahubad. At gawin na natin yung normal para makasanayan na ng mga tao. Game???
ReplyDeleteMagtaka rin kayo sino ba mga bata ngayon na kasing edad si xyriel na naissue ang photo? Maliban nlng kung minor tps nagbikini. Kung naging usap usapan si xyriel sa photo nya then theres something wrong and kailangan pa iimprove. Wala taung magagawa kung maraming bastos. Hindi nten kontrolado un. Kung pwede nga lng makulong na lang lahat ng bastos eh.
ReplyDeleteYon lang maganda kay karla ung pranka sya pero may mga maiinis sympre. Kung mahal nyo ung bata at concern kayo suwayin nyo ung mali nya para maitama. Kung halimbawa kinampihan nyo si xyriel na magusoot padin ng mga masisikip then accept nyo kung ano ang magigng reaksyon ng tao.
ReplyDeleteWe have no control over what other people think;
ReplyDeletebut we have control over our own actions.
Yun lang yun.
Yup!
Deletewhy is she wearing those tight clothes kasi? kahit ako, i find it not proper.. no hate here..
ReplyDeleteI just do not understand ganito na kalala comprehensions ng tao sa pinas??
ReplyDeleteBeing harassed even fully clothed and harassed wearing sexy clothes are 2 DIFFERENT SITUATIONS! di ba makita kaibahan non?
WALA NAMANG MALI SA SINABI NI KARLA.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion, it sad that there are few women or girls who are suffering from psychological manifestation of attention seeking behavior even if their way to get it is through socmed by posting pics wearing sexy clothes at this present digital age.
ReplyDeleteThey gain satisfaction from being watched, followed, praised and fantasized by people in general - men, women and others. From there, they feel loved, accepted, socially relevant, and pleasantly attractive.
This is not just about women or girls screaming for their freedom to wear what they are comfortable with in public as their means of self-expression.
There may be underlying factors having such beliefs and behaviors that contrast the traditional social norms and common moral values. The pressure may be coming from home, their communities they belong to or peers they often interact with.
Gets naman kung confident si xyrel sa pananamit nya but if u cant accept the consequences, ikaw na dapat ang mag adjust. Lahat tayo ayaw na nababastos so iiwas tayo. Lumugar nlng tayo like kung mga friends mo lng kasama mo edi suot ka ng mga sexy at fitted clothes. Alam mo din na blessed ka s hinaharap sympre type yan ng mga guys. Pag binalandra mo yan edi ililike nila or magcocomment sila ng kung anong gusto nila.
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