I'm in the middle. May mga wala talagang kwentang tao naiisip nila mangrape. Kahit inusente. It's not with what woman wears kahit baby nga diba navivictim. But at the same time there are ladies who are enjoying being fantasize. I wear a little revealing sometimes pero di naman acting like I wanna get fff.. Like sa Tiktok App na some ladies are acting like they are being ff my dance na something ganun.. Millenial here but well..
Sayo na rin galing: you wear something revealing sometimes, and maybe it makes you feel pretty/desirable etc. but it’s not an invitation to be fff. Ang tawag dyan, consent. As long as you’re not giving it nobody should take it - kahit pa kasing nipis ng dental floss ang suot mo.
1:02, 12:30 is pertaining to young ones na ginugusto nila ng attention. Napanuod ko din yung Tiktok na nasa kama and tumitirik na eyes while hawak b**bs nila. By the end of the day rape is rape pa din. Basta ayaw mo
Kasi some girls naeenjoy nilang pinagpapantasyahan sila, kaya they wear cloths sa tv or social media na too revealing, yung ibang makikitid ang utak na mga lalake akala lahat ng babae ineenjoy na napagpapantasyahan or iba ang pinagpantasyahan pero di marape like sa tv nila nakita or social media.. kaya nirarape nalang yung kayang irape..
Kahit ano pa suot mo, pag ayaw mo hindi dapat ipilit yun. Some girls may be trying to seduce but kung hindi ikaw ang gusto nya iseduce at umayaw sya, tapos pinwersa, rape pa rin un. Hindi porke nagpapaseksi e gusto nila kung sino sino na lang maski di nila type unless of course may condition sya sa utak.
As a precaution yung ke Mr. Ben Tulfo para sa ating mga babae lalo na pag nagko.commute tayo or pupunta sa isang uncontrolled environment. Sino ba kadalasan nambabastos sa kalye? Di ba mga tambay na nag.iinom or nakaipon lang or construction workers or manyak sa LRT/MRT jeep hay naku sa lahat ng possible public places. So tama din ang paalala nya. On the other hand, yung kay Kakie naman is on point din na I agree also, which is applied to men in general and to stop victim blaming us, women. So I agree to both of them.
May point din Naman si tulfo...Kung magcocommute ..lalo na maglalakad sa mga kalye pag Gabi...MAS nababastos Naman talaga pag sexy ang suot.
Di siguro maimagine ni kakie and Sharon na possible Yun.. never Naman kase sila nagcommute or naglakad sa mga creepy na eskinita o kalye lalo na Gabi Kaya Di nila gets Yun.
No to victim blaming pero no to being stupid din. Yes to teaching men to be respectful regardless of clothes pero yes din to seeing the reality that it will never happen in this lifetime unless we do something drastic about it. With that point in mind, as a woman, i’ll be careful with how i dress muna cause i love myself and i am my own responsibility.
It really not your fault if someone raped you. At the same time, theres a reason why prostitutes would wear revealing clothes when theyre ready for business. Just saying.
Sa sg may nagiiwan ng luxury cars sa street na hindi nakalock kasi wala namang magnanakaw dun. Sa europe kahit bakat pa yung torpedoes mo walang mangmamanyak sayo kasi liberated sila and sanay na sila makakita nun. Yan yung pinaglalaban nung iba dito na u dont have to change yourself. Pero try mo magiwan ng sasakyang hindi nakalock sa pinas or magsuot ng dental floss lang dito sa pinas ewan ko lang kung san ka pulutin. Iayon kasi natin yong opinions natin sa surroundings. What works for them may not work here because of the difference in culture/discipline/etc.
0124, i like your point of view. Siguro ang gawan na lng talaga natin ng paraan is harsher punishment for rapists. Precautions lang naman din yung sinabi ni Tulfo, di man ma-control ang situation, may paraan naman para mag ingat and yun siguro ang point nila.
1:24 so are you saying yung Sigaporeans pwedeng maturuan at mapalaki wag mag rape at magnakaw pero ang mga Pilipino hindi?
Hindi talaga mag wo-work dito if WE don't change the culture and discipline by embracing, excusing and rationalizing the kind of thinking Ben Tulfo is propagating.
Ano ba mas madaling gawin? Ayusin ang klase ng pananamit o turuan at pag sabihan ang mga rapist at manyak na wag mahohorny pag maka kita ng girl na showing some skin? Palagay ko kung ano na lang ang mas madaling solusyon ang gawin kesa yung imposible like controlin ang utak ng isang maniac
3:12 so hanggang band aid solution na lang tayo? wag maging tamad sa pagtingin sa mga bagay bagay. long term solutions, however difficult, must be advocated.yung matitino pa ang mag-aadjust para sa mga corrupted?
3:45 Gumising ka sa realidad! Kung magsuot nga lang ng mask o social distancing hindi magawa ng tao kahit ikamamatay na nila ang resulta ng kapabayaan nila what more ang mga manyak at may sakit sa pag iisip? Sa tingin mo matuturuan mo sila na wag mang rape?? Iba sila mag isip! Hay kakapagod makipag usap sa mga gaya mo mag isip, hindi na makatotohanan ang katwiran nyo. Kahit pilit nyo na baguhin ang utak ng isang tao hindi yan madali lalo pa kung manyak or may sira sa pag iisip. Jusko ang kukulit nyo!
Hi Kakie, saang lugar ka ba pinanganak. Dun ba sa lugar nyo eh natuturuan ang kriminal na huwag gumawa ng krimen?
Ang maganda eh i-suggest mo sa tatay mong dekada ng nasa gobyerno na gumawa ng batas para diyan sa “teach people not to rape” mo.
Kagaya ka din ng tatay mong ang ingay sa social media criticizing the government he is IN. Imbes na mag suggest sa gobyerno ng magandang gawin sa bansa eh sa social media daldal ng daldal.
wow 3:39, so homogeneous dapat ang lahat ng tao sa gobyerno? walang dissenting opinion? in short, gusto mo ng diktaturya? and yes, natuturuan ang mga kriminal na wag gumawa ng krimen, believe it or not. hindi lahat ay imposibleng ireform. your comment is misplaced on so many levels.
3:51 Seryoso ka sa sinasabi mo? If yes, I rest my case. Futile lang sayang sa oras. Nakakatawa ka lakas ng bilib mo sa sarili mong opinion. Sige lahat ng maniac at pervert sa mundo turuan mo at ireform good luck syo lol
First off, I don't tulfo was victim shaming. What he was saying is a fact ,wearing decent clothes is not a way of putting any woman down. It is just one way of keeping ourselves safer from the evil out there. Having extra precaution is not a bad idea. Di naman nya sinabi na pag malaswa yun damit mo eh ok na yun rape. Rape is rape. No excuses. But masama ba maglagay tayo ng extra lock sa bahay. Maglagay na bakod para hindi maging mainit sa mata ng mga magnanakaw. Precaution lang naman yun sinasabi ni tulfo. And last, why did you take offense when he called you hija? Bata ka and he didn"t know how to address you. He was showing you respect. Something I think na kulang ka. Iba opinion mo, that's good. Hija ka naman talaga kitamo to the rescue agad mom at dad mo. Konting respeto, hija. Di komo matalino ka eh you get to disrespect people just bec they have a diff opinion
when he called you "wanna be smart aleck" and that was the first sentence coming from him, you think he gave you the same respect or reason you also deserve? respect begets respect. read what he wrote first before you lecture the "hija" on what respect is. clearly, there is too much sarcasm in his tone and you my dear blindly missed it.
People here who keep insisting that what they wear can protect them from being raped really have no idea what most rape victims were wearing when they were raped.
Maybe just maybe what Ben tulfo had said was taken out of context,it was meant to be an advise for those girls who intentionally wears revealing clothes just to get noticed by men and theres a truth to it nman. I'm not saying all girls..
I guess it was meant to be an advise but it depends on who is reading it.If you're old enough you would take it as a precaution but being the Ben tulfo that he is,he delivered his message as like blaming but in reality he was not victim blaming.
Now a days in every word you speak this young generation is Very particular about everything,yes everyone's opinion matters but some thinks they know everything in everything..
Actually, may point din si Ben. Kahit ako babae, pag nagti-shirt ako d masyadong malagkit tingin ng mga lalaki pero pagnagka shorts, grabe kung makatingin. May point din naman eh. Iba-iba kasi ang tao. Hindi natin ma control yung pag-iisip nila so iwasan na lang natin mapunta sa di maganda.
Rapist is a rapist nga. Pero nag ti-trigger sila pag yung suot natin nakaka ano nila.
On a broader perspective... What about men being raped.. in a culture gaya sa middle east dba may mga cases tayo ng ofw na mga lalaki na nararape.. pero nananahimik dahil sa kahihiyan.. it is d culture not d dress code..
rapists are criminals. they should all die long, painful deaths. may manyak na nagre rape no matter what. pero may manyak din na nagkaka idea pag may nakita. yan ang pwedeng iwasan. being prudent costs nothing.
Ano ba Yan pabebe pa rin si Sharon magreply. Pacute na pakolehiyala of the eighties. Meh!
ReplyDeleteCringe si Sharon. Ayaw magtake ng stand. Talagang may pa idol Raffy tulfo para di ma offend ang mga fans ng tulfo show na Yan? Kaloka.
ReplyDeleteI'm in the middle. May mga wala talagang kwentang tao naiisip nila mangrape. Kahit inusente. It's not with what woman wears kahit baby nga diba navivictim. But at the same time there are ladies who are enjoying being fantasize. I wear a little revealing sometimes pero di naman acting like I wanna get fff.. Like sa Tiktok App na some ladies are acting like they are being ff my dance na something ganun.. Millenial here but well..
ReplyDeleteSayo na rin galing: you wear something revealing sometimes, and maybe it makes you feel pretty/desirable etc. but it’s not an invitation to be fff. Ang tawag dyan, consent. As long as you’re not giving it nobody should take it - kahit pa kasing nipis ng dental floss ang suot mo.
Delete1:02, 12:30 is pertaining to young ones na ginugusto nila ng attention. Napanuod ko din yung Tiktok na nasa kama and tumitirik na eyes while hawak b**bs nila. By the end of the day rape is rape pa din. Basta ayaw mo
DeleteKasi some girls naeenjoy nilang pinagpapantasyahan sila, kaya they wear cloths sa tv or social media na too revealing, yung ibang makikitid ang utak na mga lalake akala lahat ng babae ineenjoy na napagpapantasyahan or iba ang pinagpantasyahan pero di marape like sa tv nila nakita or social media.. kaya nirarape nalang yung kayang irape..
DeleteKahit ano pa suot mo, pag ayaw mo hindi dapat ipilit yun. Some girls may be trying to seduce but kung hindi ikaw ang gusto nya iseduce at umayaw sya, tapos pinwersa, rape pa rin un. Hindi porke nagpapaseksi e gusto nila kung sino sino na lang maski di nila type unless of course may condition sya sa utak.
Deleteso bakit mo kailangan i try iseduce kahit ayaw mo nmn pala talga? ano point?
DeleteAs a precaution yung ke Mr. Ben Tulfo para sa ating mga babae lalo na pag nagko.commute tayo or pupunta sa isang uncontrolled environment. Sino ba kadalasan nambabastos sa kalye? Di ba mga tambay na nag.iinom or nakaipon lang or construction workers or manyak sa LRT/MRT jeep hay naku sa lahat ng possible public places. So tama din ang paalala nya.
ReplyDeleteOn the other hand, yung kay Kakie naman is on point din na I agree also, which is applied to men in general and to stop victim blaming us, women. So I agree to both of them.
Tama parang warning lang din naman. Lalu na if alam mong pupuntahan mong area eh delikado na at walang katinuan ang nasa isip ng mga papaligid sayi
DeleteMay point din Naman si tulfo...Kung magcocommute ..lalo na maglalakad sa mga kalye pag Gabi...MAS nababastos Naman talaga pag sexy ang suot.
DeleteDi siguro maimagine ni kakie and Sharon na possible Yun.. never Naman kase sila nagcommute or naglakad sa mga creepy na eskinita o kalye lalo na Gabi Kaya Di nila gets Yun.
correct. parang same lang din siguro sa alam mong maraming snatcher at mandurukot sa divisoria, so careful pag nagpunta dun
DeleteNo to victim blaming pero no to being stupid din. Yes to teaching men to be respectful regardless of clothes pero yes din to seeing the reality that it will never happen in this lifetime unless we do something drastic about it. With that point in mind, as a woman, i’ll be careful with how i dress muna cause i love myself and i am my own responsibility.
ReplyDeleteIt really not your fault if someone raped you. At the same time, theres a reason why prostitutes would wear revealing clothes when theyre ready for business. Just saying.
ReplyDeleteOn point!
DeleteAnd the reason is they want to earn money!
Deleteand one sure way to attract clients is to wearrevealing outfits!
DeleteSa sg may nagiiwan ng luxury cars sa street na hindi nakalock kasi wala namang magnanakaw dun. Sa europe kahit bakat pa yung torpedoes mo walang mangmamanyak sayo kasi liberated sila and sanay na sila makakita nun. Yan yung pinaglalaban nung iba dito na u dont have to change yourself. Pero try mo magiwan ng sasakyang hindi nakalock sa pinas or magsuot ng dental floss lang dito sa pinas ewan ko lang kung san ka pulutin. Iayon kasi natin yong opinions natin sa surroundings. What works for them may not work here because of the difference in culture/discipline/etc.
ReplyDelete0124, i like your point of view. Siguro ang gawan na lng talaga natin ng paraan is harsher punishment for rapists. Precautions lang naman din yung sinabi ni Tulfo, di man ma-control ang situation, may paraan naman para mag ingat and yun siguro ang point nila.
Delete1:24 so are you saying yung Sigaporeans pwedeng maturuan at mapalaki wag mag rape at magnakaw pero ang mga Pilipino hindi?
DeleteHindi talaga mag wo-work dito if WE don't change the culture and discipline by embracing, excusing and rationalizing the kind of thinking Ben Tulfo is propagating.
10:37 wins the internet today with this comment.
DeleteYes that's why we have to start diba? Hindi pwedeng victim-blaming na lang parati.
DeleteAno ba mas madaling gawin? Ayusin ang klase ng pananamit o turuan at pag sabihan ang mga rapist at manyak na wag mahohorny pag maka kita ng girl na showing some skin? Palagay ko kung ano na lang ang mas madaling solusyon ang gawin kesa yung imposible like controlin ang utak ng isang maniac
ReplyDelete3:12 so hanggang band aid solution na lang tayo? wag maging tamad sa pagtingin sa mga bagay bagay. long term solutions, however difficult, must be advocated.yung matitino pa ang mag-aadjust para sa mga corrupted?
Delete3:45 Gumising ka sa realidad! Kung magsuot nga lang ng mask o social distancing hindi magawa ng tao kahit ikamamatay na nila ang resulta ng kapabayaan nila what more ang mga manyak at may sakit sa pag iisip? Sa tingin mo matuturuan mo sila na wag mang rape?? Iba sila mag isip! Hay kakapagod makipag usap sa mga gaya mo mag isip, hindi na makatotohanan ang katwiran nyo. Kahit pilit nyo na baguhin ang utak ng isang tao hindi yan madali lalo pa kung manyak or may sira sa pag iisip. Jusko ang kukulit nyo!
Delete“teach people not to rape.”
ReplyDeleteHi Kakie, saang lugar ka ba pinanganak. Dun ba sa lugar nyo eh natuturuan ang kriminal na huwag gumawa ng krimen?
Ang maganda eh i-suggest mo sa tatay mong dekada ng nasa gobyerno na gumawa ng batas para diyan sa “teach people not to rape” mo.
Kagaya ka din ng tatay mong ang ingay sa social media criticizing the government he is IN. Imbes na mag suggest sa gobyerno ng magandang gawin sa bansa eh sa social media daldal ng daldal.
wow 3:39, so homogeneous dapat ang lahat ng tao sa gobyerno? walang dissenting opinion? in short, gusto mo ng diktaturya? and yes, natuturuan ang mga kriminal na wag gumawa ng krimen, believe it or not. hindi lahat ay imposibleng ireform. your comment is misplaced on so many levels.
Delete3:51 Seryoso ka sa sinasabi mo? If yes, I rest my case. Futile lang sayang sa oras. Nakakatawa ka lakas ng bilib mo sa sarili mong opinion. Sige lahat ng maniac at pervert sa mundo turuan mo at ireform good luck syo lol
Delete3:15. How? Yung simpleng bagay na nga lang tulad ng pagtapon ng basura di magawa ng nakararami e.
DeleteIto na! Sumali na ang queen ng socmed!
ReplyDeleteFirst off, I don't tulfo was victim shaming. What he was saying is a fact ,wearing decent clothes is not a way of putting any woman down. It is just one way of keeping ourselves safer from the evil out there. Having extra precaution is not a bad idea. Di naman nya sinabi na pag malaswa yun damit mo eh ok na yun rape. Rape is rape. No excuses. But masama ba maglagay tayo ng extra lock sa bahay. Maglagay na bakod para hindi maging mainit sa mata ng mga magnanakaw. Precaution lang naman yun sinasabi ni tulfo. And last, why did you take offense when he called you hija? Bata ka and he didn"t know how to address you. He was showing you respect. Something I think na kulang ka. Iba opinion mo, that's good. Hija ka naman talaga kitamo to the rescue agad mom at dad mo. Konting respeto, hija. Di komo matalino ka eh you get to disrespect people just bec they have a diff opinion
ReplyDeletewhen he called you "wanna be smart aleck" and that was the first sentence coming from him, you think he gave you the same respect or reason you also deserve? respect begets respect.
Deleteread what he wrote first before you lecture the "hija" on what respect is. clearly, there is too much sarcasm in his tone and you my dear blindly missed it.
People here who keep insisting that what they wear can protect them from being raped really have no idea what most rape victims were wearing when they were raped.
ReplyDeleteMaybe just maybe what Ben tulfo had said was taken out of context,it was meant to be an advise for those girls who intentionally wears revealing clothes just to get noticed by men and theres a truth to it nman.
ReplyDeleteI'm not saying all girls..
I guess it was meant to be an advise but it depends on who is reading it.If you're old enough you would take it as a precaution but being the Ben tulfo that he is,he delivered his message as like blaming but in reality he was not victim blaming.
ReplyDeleteNow a days in every word you speak this young generation is Very particular about everything,yes everyone's opinion matters but some thinks they know everything in everything..
ReplyDeleteSo stupid these people who said that Sharon didn’t want to take a stand. She took a stand kaya. Kakatoxic maging Pinoy. Lahat na lang kayo May pintas!
ReplyDeleteWhy is Sharon calling the other Tulfo brother “idol”? Idol ba niya yung brother nila na yun?
ReplyDeleteWalang isang solusyon dito pero ang akin lang ay dapat matanggal sa isip ng mga tao na pag may narape ay ng dahil sa way ng pananamit nung tao.
ReplyDeleteActually, may point din si Ben. Kahit ako babae, pag nagti-shirt ako d masyadong malagkit tingin ng mga lalaki pero pagnagka shorts, grabe kung makatingin. May point din naman eh. Iba-iba kasi ang tao. Hindi natin ma control yung pag-iisip nila so iwasan na lang natin mapunta sa di maganda.
ReplyDeleteRapist is a rapist nga. Pero nag ti-trigger sila pag yung suot natin nakaka ano nila.
On a broader perspective... What about men being raped.. in a culture gaya sa middle east dba may mga cases tayo ng ofw na mga lalaki na nararape.. pero nananahimik dahil sa kahihiyan.. it is d culture not d dress code..
ReplyDeleteMeh, pabida lagi ang dalawang to. Too annoying and irritating.
ReplyDeleterapists are criminals. they should all die long, painful deaths. may manyak na nagre rape no matter what. pero may manyak din na nagkaka idea pag may nakita. yan ang pwedeng iwasan. being prudent costs nothing.
ReplyDelete