May body beautiful pa ba siya ngayon eh parang putok na putok na. Feelingera si Lola. Kung maka opinyon kala mo ang talino. Pinuna pa ang opinyon ng iba.
Wag din magpadala sa sensationalized stance ng media. Nabasa ko ang bill and wala akong nakitang masama. May makikita kang masama kapag naghahanap ka ng butas
12:47 wala ka talagang makitang mali? Kahit hindi naman MALINAW ang definition ng terrorism? Na pwede kang I-tag na terrorist dahil kritiko ka? Kahit na pwede kang ikulong ng walang warrant for up to 29 days? At walang danyos kapag walang grounds ang pag detain sayo? Kapag nagbabasa ka ng batas, isipin mo yung implication sa lahat hindi lang sayo kasi ang batas ay applicable sa lahat.
I also read the bill 12:47, and pardon me if I say it's incredibly naive to say na walang masama sa bill na ito. OF COURSE, who writes up a law and make it seem 'evil' or make it OBVIOUS na may potential syang maging masama? If you do not see beyond the very vague specifications of this law, then sana medyo laliman mo ang pag-iisip.
Second, it worries the public na ito ang focus ng Senate, at ng executive, when we obviously have this bigger, more life-threatening virus that is actually terrorizing us now? Hindi mo rin naiisip yun? That doesn't affect you?
12:47 AM it's good nagbabasa kayo before nagcomment. Just asking lang if you're a lawyer? For me, unconstitutional talaga yung ATB. I'd explain here pero parang mas ok na you search for comments of lawyers and law professors online.
siguro kung hindi sila pikon sa mga pumupuna vs sa totoong terrorista baka pwede. kasi pwede abusuhin ng gobyerno ang batas. kung pikon kang leader wag na lang. kung open minded sila why not.
kung hindi sila pikon pwede anti terrorism bill. kaso may mangyayaring pang-aabuso. natural lang na hindi tayo magkakapareho ng prinsipyo o paniniwala. pero ung pwedeng maabuso dahil lang sa opinyon mo ay pwede kanang isala bilang terorista.
ang pilipinas ay parang isang bahay lang. sa bawat miyembro ng pamilya ay may paniniwala. kahit ikaw pa ang nagtataguyod sa pamilya mo. mayroon parin silang karapatan na magkomento at magbigay ng opinyon sa mga bagay bagay.
12:47 malamang maghanap ka ng butas kasi yan ang gagamitin sayo laban sa rights mo. Walang masama sa bill ang masama yung maghahanap ng butas nyan para magamit para sa pansarili nila specially sa mga pulis na mahilig magpabirthday at iaabswelto nung presidente
Beh 12:47, hndi malinaw ang definition nila s "terrorista", meaning pede k ikulong just because govt see that youre against them. Si madam mocha nya, sinaihan nya terrorista ang mga nagproprotesta eh.
4:21 beh, u obviously blind. This anti terrorism is vague. Tignan mo nga si mocha, nagprotesta is equal to terrorista n. So this law can be interpreted by their own desire and can be use to their own accord.
Plus, bakit ito ang inuuna nila? Bkit hndi nila unahin plantsahin at ifiled ang senate Bill no. 1573 Pandemic and All-Hazards Preparedness Act ni Meriam Defensor-Santiago, which could have helped prepare the Philippines against the deadly virus??? This govt is really messed up!!
Ngayon palang community quarantine, kita na may abusadong pulis at pinipili pa kung sino lang ang huhulihin. Paano pa kung may Anti-Terror bill? Mere suspicion, huli na upto 24 days even without warrant. Tama lang na magsalita ang mga tao laban sa bill.
Policemen are NOT supposed to be casually carrying around HIGH-POWERED FIREARMS. Una, pulis sila, hindi sundalo. Pangalawa, wala naman sila sa giyera - nasa mall. Para que ang high-powered firearms doon?
Hello Ms Vivian, nabasa nyo po ba ng buo? Pano nyo po nasabi na full proof safeguards for abuse?
Double standard talaga DDS wag daw i compare ang pinas sa ibang bansa, tapos sa sunod na araw sila naman mag compare basta papabor sa kanilang argument.
The problem po kase is yung nagpapatupad ng batas, ngayon pa nga lang mga abusado na pano pa pag nasabatas yan.
vivian dapat ang unang magbasa ng terror bill ng malaman niya bakit marami ang may ayaw dito. Pagtukoy pa lang sa terrorista magulo na, yung pag implement pa kaya.
I don't agree sa bashing of the 2 miss universe though i agree with her comparison with other countries' anti terrorism bill. Point is, if you catch a terrorist dawn of a friday morning, terrorist could be free on a monday thus the extension. If people do not trust the police to their jobs then who are we going to trust? Batman? The bill might be "worrying" but i never read any expert said outright that it is against the constitution.tsaka we have the supreme court- they will be the ones who will determine if this law is against the constitution. lastly, do not forget what happened to the bombing of pal flight 434, it was when we were made a guinea pig of terrorists who were behind the sept 11. America is in disorder as of the moment and this could be a taken advantage of by terrorists especially after the US bombed Iraq in March-baka maging guinea pig nanaman tau. Point is baka may alam sila na di natin alam- i dont think this will be an urgent issue if they do not have the right intelligence, the same way we have heard threats of terrorism in indonesia. What we need is a dialogue to ensure that authorities who maliciously detain a person as a terrorist would be accountable to his/her actions and answerable if proven guilty.
If you think there is a high chance of a terrorism group planning an attack, then the current laws are sufficient. We cannot discount the fact that abuses could be committed by authorities. They can arrest anyone based on mere suspicion and even if we argue that it might be proven to be baseless, the effect on the innocent person arrested could be disastrous. The worst part? This Anti Terror Bill will remove the provision on damages against the erring police.
I have nothing against Ms. Vivian, Catriona and Pia. Their opinion is their opinion and I respect that. I just hope that all these celebrities who are speaking out and "making a stand" regarding political, religious and/or national issues are really aware of what the issues are and that they actually researched/studied it at hindi lang dahil nakakita ang tweets from other celebrities eh nakisakay na rin sa issue. Because sa totoo lang ang daming mga celebrities who are all pa "cute" lang on TV and on their social media accounts and hindi naman natin nakikitaan ng pagiging socially aware sa mga social media accounts nila and then suddenly pa-woke na lang bigla.
Now I know bakit siya tinawag na “Body Beautiful” noon. Body lang pala talaga ang meron siya kaya bitter siya kay Catriona & Pia. Oh well, Vivian, kung sana noon hinasa mo yung brain mo habang pinapaganda ang katawan mo, di ka magiging bitter ngayon.
Madami na kasing nagising at pumapalag sa present admin now, kaya ginawa ng priority ang bill na ito. Imbes na tutukan ang covid 19 issue, pang sikil sa mga kontra sa admin ngayon ang inuuna.
Lola Vivian, nahirang po silang Miss Universe dahil deserving sila. Nagbigay po sila ng karangalan sa Pilipinas! Eh kayo ano ang naiambag nyo? Ang paging Miss Body Beautiful noong panahon ni Kulafu? Hahahahaha.
Walang alam si madam. 😂 Naku, may part dun sa bill na provision for wiretapping. Kapag hinuli ka din at kinulong for 14days (suspect ka pa lang) e ipi-freeze lahat ng bank accounts mo. Lahat ng sms, calls and socmed accounts mo e ire-retrieve ang data to check if terorista ka.
E ang malaking question, paano kung napagbintangan ka lang at na malinh akala yung authorities? Ganun na lang yun? Inalis nila yung panukala ni Nene Pimentel na 500 thousand na ibabayad sa mga taong napagsuspetsahan pero mali naman.
Madami pang loopholes dyan sa bill na yan pero yan lang ang in-emphasise ko kasi mukhang walang alam talaga yang si madam vivian. 😂
Nasa mindanao kami, sa may sta cruz. I support this bill. Wala kasing mga NPA jan sa luzon. You dont understand our situation. puro rally lang iniisip niyo. Grabe kayo
11:02, There are already more than enough laws to address terrorism and rebellion in this country. How do you think did the country topple terrorism and rebellion in the past? Basa-basa ka naman pag may time.
Mareng Vivian, sabagay I remember dati puro body ka lang ( dati ) hihihi
ReplyDeleteMay body beautiful pa ba siya ngayon eh parang putok na putok na. Feelingera si Lola. Kung maka opinyon kala mo ang talino. Pinuna pa ang opinyon ng iba.
DeleteSi revolutionary government ghorl lol no credibikity next...
ReplyDeleteWooops, halata na si Ms Vivian ang di nagbabasa 🤦🏻
ReplyDeleteWag din magpadala sa sensationalized stance ng media. Nabasa ko ang bill and wala akong nakitang masama. May makikita kang masama kapag naghahanap ka ng butas
Delete12:47 wala ka talagang makitang mali? Kahit hindi naman MALINAW ang definition ng terrorism? Na pwede kang I-tag na terrorist dahil kritiko ka? Kahit na pwede kang ikulong ng walang warrant for up to 29 days? At walang danyos kapag walang grounds ang pag detain sayo? Kapag nagbabasa ka ng batas, isipin mo yung implication sa lahat hindi lang sayo kasi ang batas ay applicable sa lahat.
Delete12.47 well kung Ang meaning ng naghahanap ng butas is magbusisi.. ay dapat Lang Na maghanap ng butas. Huwag Kang maging gullible please.
DeleteI also read the bill 12:47, and pardon me if I say it's incredibly naive to say na walang masama sa bill na ito. OF COURSE, who writes up a law and make it seem 'evil' or make it OBVIOUS na may potential syang maging masama? If you do not see beyond the very vague specifications of this law, then sana medyo laliman mo ang pag-iisip.
DeleteSecond, it worries the public na ito ang focus ng Senate, at ng executive, when we obviously have this bigger, more life-threatening virus that is actually terrorizing us now? Hindi mo rin naiisip yun? That doesn't affect you?
12:47 AM it's good nagbabasa kayo before nagcomment. Just asking lang if you're a lawyer? For me, unconstitutional talaga yung ATB. I'd explain here pero parang mas ok na you search for comments of lawyers and law professors online.
Deletesiguro kung hindi sila pikon sa mga pumupuna vs sa totoong terrorista baka pwede. kasi pwede abusuhin ng gobyerno ang batas. kung pikon kang leader wag na lang. kung open minded sila why not.
Deletekung hindi sila pikon pwede anti terrorism bill. kaso may mangyayaring pang-aabuso. natural lang na hindi tayo magkakapareho ng prinsipyo o paniniwala. pero ung pwedeng maabuso dahil lang sa opinyon mo ay pwede kanang isala bilang terorista.
Deleteang pilipinas ay parang isang bahay lang. sa bawat miyembro ng pamilya ay may paniniwala. kahit ikaw pa ang nagtataguyod sa pamilya mo. mayroon parin silang karapatan na magkomento at magbigay ng opinyon sa mga bagay bagay.
Delete12:47 malamang maghanap ka ng butas kasi yan ang gagamitin sayo laban sa rights mo. Walang masama sa bill ang masama yung maghahanap ng butas nyan para magamit para sa pansarili nila specially sa mga pulis na mahilig magpabirthday at iaabswelto nung presidente
DeleteBeh 12:47, hndi malinaw ang definition nila s "terrorista", meaning pede k ikulong just because govt see that youre against them. Si madam mocha nya, sinaihan nya terrorista ang mga nagproprotesta eh.
Delete4:21 beh, u obviously blind. This anti terrorism is vague. Tignan mo nga si mocha, nagprotesta is equal to terrorista n. So this law can be interpreted by their own desire and can be use to their own accord.
DeletePlus, bakit ito ang inuuna nila? Bkit hndi nila unahin plantsahin at ifiled ang senate Bill no. 1573 Pandemic and All-Hazards Preparedness Act ni Meriam Defensor-Santiago, which could have helped prepare the Philippines against the deadly virus??? This govt is really messed up!!
This woman. My Gawd!
ReplyDeleteMs Vivian should go back to school or take Promil
ReplyDeleteNgayon palang community quarantine, kita na may abusadong pulis at pinipili pa kung sino lang ang huhulihin. Paano pa kung may Anti-Terror bill? Mere suspicion, huli na upto 24 days even without warrant. Tama lang na magsalita ang mga tao laban sa bill.
ReplyDeleteTotoo. Minsan nga nasa mall ka may dala pa silang high powered firearms eh. Feeling na feeling
Delete1:20 so ano pala ang dala nila dapat???
DeletePolicemen are NOT supposed to be casually carrying around HIGH-POWERED FIREARMS. Una, pulis sila, hindi sundalo. Pangalawa, wala naman sila sa giyera - nasa mall. Para que ang high-powered firearms doon?
DeleteSus Vivian. As if naman alam mo sinasabi mo! Experts on law already said it is against BiLL of Rights
ReplyDeleteLike duh?
Maging beauty Queen ka muna!
As if naman ikatataas ng isang babae ang maging isang beauty queen??? LMAO! Wag delusional!
DeletePagiging beauty queen and sexy starlet, same level lang yan, wag ilusyunada.
Delete8:12
DeleteHUY!
KELAN NAGING PAREHO ANG BEUTY QUEEN AT SEXY STAR?
Grabehan ka!
8:12 Korek pareho silang nagsusuot ng bikining itim pero di parehong level bakit naging miss universe ba yung lola mo?
DeletePareho lang naman silang nagpapasexy ah. Sa movie screen lang yung isa, tapos yung isa sa stage naka bikini in high heels.
DeleteAnd who is this old lady again?
ReplyDeleteInsecure na naman ang Starlet na ito as always. Never kang magkakaposisyon Vivian Velez.
ReplyDeleteUsing Pia and Cat to be relevant
ReplyDeleteFeeling intellectual din tong si Vivian.
ReplyDeleteIkaw na ang matalino. Masyado ng maraming epal sa paligid wag ka ng dumagdag.
ReplyDeleteJuice ko mema lang si Vivian
ReplyDeleteHello Ms Vivian, nabasa nyo po ba ng buo? Pano nyo po nasabi na full proof safeguards for abuse?
ReplyDeleteDouble standard talaga DDS wag daw i compare ang pinas sa ibang bansa, tapos sa sunod na araw sila naman mag compare basta papabor sa kanilang argument.
The problem po kase is yung nagpapatupad ng batas, ngayon pa nga lang mga abusado na pano pa pag nasabatas yan.
vivian dapat ang unang magbasa ng terror bill ng malaman niya bakit marami ang may ayaw dito. Pagtukoy pa lang sa terrorista magulo na, yung pag implement pa kaya.
ReplyDeleteUy bigyan niyo daw kasi sya posisyon din hahaha
ReplyDeleteI don't agree sa bashing of the 2 miss universe though i agree with her comparison with other countries' anti terrorism bill. Point is, if you catch a terrorist dawn of a friday morning, terrorist could be free on a monday thus the extension. If people do not trust the police to their jobs then who are we going to trust? Batman? The bill might be "worrying" but i never read any expert said outright that it is against the constitution.tsaka we have the supreme court- they will be the ones who will determine if this law is against the constitution. lastly, do not forget what happened to the bombing of pal flight 434, it was when we were made a guinea pig of terrorists who were behind the sept 11. America is in disorder as of the moment and this could be a taken advantage of by terrorists especially after the US bombed Iraq in March-baka maging guinea pig nanaman tau. Point is baka may alam sila na di natin alam- i dont think this will be an urgent issue if they do not have the right intelligence, the same way we have heard threats of terrorism in indonesia. What we need is a dialogue to ensure that authorities who maliciously detain a person as a terrorist would be accountable to his/her actions and answerable if proven guilty.
ReplyDeleteDear, there is no room for dialogue with abusive authorities who have no conscience. Been there done that na tayo. Don't be naive.
DeleteIf you think there is a high chance of a terrorism group planning an attack, then the current laws are sufficient. We cannot discount the fact that abuses could be committed by authorities. They can arrest anyone based on mere suspicion and even if we argue that it might be proven to be baseless, the effect on the innocent person arrested could be disastrous. The worst part? This Anti Terror Bill will remove the provision on damages against the erring police.
DeleteOn point!
DeleteI have nothing against Ms. Vivian, Catriona and Pia. Their opinion is their opinion and I respect that. I just hope that all these celebrities who are speaking out and "making a stand" regarding political, religious and/or national issues are really aware of what the issues are and that they actually researched/studied it at hindi lang dahil nakakita ang tweets from other celebrities eh nakisakay na rin sa issue. Because sa totoo lang ang daming mga celebrities who are all pa "cute" lang on TV and on their social media accounts and hindi naman natin nakikitaan ng pagiging socially aware sa mga social media accounts nila and then suddenly pa-woke na lang bigla.
ReplyDeleteVivian Velez, they have the right to express their opinion as much as you do. At least they did not have to step on someone's intelligence to do so
ReplyDeleteHindi na raw #JunkTerrorBill sabi ni Catriona kundi #RevisedTerrorBill..at least I see progress here lol
ReplyDeleteunless u have done something and brought pride to your country Ms Velez, sit tf down!
ReplyDeleteGusto magpapansin ni lola. Wag na kasi mang insulto para hindi mainsulto.
ReplyDeleteWhat again is this has-been's problem. Menopausal stage?
ReplyDeleteShe is way past that stage so it must be something else.
DeleteKapag di mag agree, insultuhin. Tsk tsk
ReplyDelete3:13 this!
ReplyDeleteNow I know bakit siya tinawag na “Body Beautiful” noon. Body lang pala talaga ang meron siya kaya bitter siya kay Catriona & Pia. Oh well, Vivian, kung sana noon hinasa mo yung brain mo habang pinapaganda ang katawan mo, di ka magiging bitter ngayon.
ReplyDeletepls wag sanang patulan eto ng mga Missu Queens. ibang level sila . beauty and brains, napaka lower level ng isa. mismatched.
ReplyDeleteHahahahaha, Vivian must want a government appointment. Too obvious. Kaloka si lola.
ReplyDeleteGirl,madaming pinagdaanan mga yan bago naging beauty queen, unlike you... Pangkalahatang welfare nasa isip nila, unlike you...self-serving.
ReplyDeleteAA oh! Ingay ni Vivian!!!!
ReplyDeletethis vivian velez has a high and mighty attitude, may sablay talaga sa personality nia, bye vivian hahahah
ReplyDeleteMadami na kasing nagising at pumapalag sa present admin now, kaya ginawa ng priority ang bill na ito. Imbes na tutukan ang covid 19 issue, pang sikil sa mga kontra sa admin ngayon ang inuuna.
ReplyDeleteLola Vivian, nahirang po silang Miss Universe dahil deserving sila. Nagbigay po sila ng karangalan sa Pilipinas! Eh kayo ano ang naiambag nyo? Ang paging Miss Body Beautiful noong panahon ni Kulafu? Hahahahaha.
ReplyDeleteWalang alam si madam. 😂
ReplyDeleteNaku, may part dun sa bill na provision for wiretapping. Kapag hinuli ka din at kinulong for 14days (suspect ka pa lang) e ipi-freeze lahat ng bank accounts mo. Lahat ng sms, calls and socmed accounts mo e ire-retrieve ang data to check if terorista ka.
E ang malaking question, paano kung napagbintangan ka lang at na malinh akala yung authorities? Ganun na lang yun? Inalis nila yung panukala ni Nene Pimentel na 500 thousand na ibabayad sa mga taong napagsuspetsahan pero mali naman.
Madami pang loopholes dyan sa bill na yan pero yan lang ang in-emphasise ko kasi mukhang walang alam talaga yang si madam vivian. 😂
Lol, sipsip for government appoinmnet pa more. Too obvious.
ReplyDeleteNasa mindanao kami, sa may sta cruz. I support this bill. Wala kasing mga NPA jan sa luzon. You dont understand our situation. puro rally lang iniisip niyo. Grabe kayo
ReplyDelete11:02, There are already more than enough laws to address terrorism and rebellion in this country. How do you think did the country topple terrorism and rebellion in the past? Basa-basa ka naman pag may time.
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