What the?! Yung mga babae nagkukwento With sexual contents e obvious na kaaffair niya! Dahil nagkakasama na sila Tapos inignore lang sila ganun na. Nahumaling din sila dahil artista e wag silang pagoody!
2:09, kaya ang hirap maghabla kasi kung ang mga korte tulad mo kelangan ng hard evidence, wala na. pag ni re rape ka, ikaw lang at ang rapist mo. walang witness. kung may presence of mind ka pa pagkatapos na magpa-medico legal, okay good. Pero yung iba nauunahan ng takot at hiya. Wala ng makakalap na ebidensya pag nagkalakas ng loob na magsumbong. Grabe ka.
Let's see, he is well off, a well known actor, at siga siga. That's a recipe that would get girls curious and wants to be the "one" who can tame the beast. He is a player so stop crying when you get played. Sorry but you don't have the right to complain when you pet a crazy dog and get bitten by it.
I know and these girls played his game. And tells their eww story candidly. Parang nakikipagwentuhan lang. they were treated like s—t. And they sounded like it’s nothing.
Sana if true, baron and gf nagfile ng rape case against him that time nakatulong pa sila sa lahat ng victims and possible victims. Baka sakaling nastop sya.
2:11 or because they know they are at fault too.. that it is their decision to come to him, no one said they were kidnapped or something or brought to his by force.. they wander in the lion’s den, what do they expect?
@1245 mahirap sabihin unless ikaw yung nandoon. sana lahat ng tao kasing tapang mo and ganun din kagaling mag-isip. kung lahat sana kasing galing mo, wala ng biktima.
May kapareho mo pa pala mag isip no? Do you know wives are being raped by their husbands too? No is no, hon. Regardless if you're in a relationship with him.
I dont think it’s victim blaming. What 12:45 meant was that these girls should also take responsibility for their actions. I feel sorry for these girls but you they also have a part in it..
Meeting a guy you met in Bumble for the first time and you agreed to go to his condo? Girl, kahit sino naman yata alam na kung ano susunod na mangyayari but you still went there.. Victim blaming? Yes.. cause she herself did not take care for herself..
Ang layo ng pagsusuot ng shorts in public at going to a practically stranger's home willingly. Nobody forced her to go. If the tone was forceful, she could have turned her phone off and she could have gone off another way. Eh talagang gusto din niya. Ingatan niyo kasi sarili niyo para di kayo naiisahan.
Hi 1:21 and to all judgers of victim blaming. I dont think you really understand what you are claiming for. Yung mga wife/ in a relationship of course their case is different. No is a no and rape is rape. Pero dun sa mga ladies na napunta sa mga lugar na hindi nila totally kilala ung pupuntahan nila, diba may fault din sa side nila? I am not saying na deserve nila yung bad outcome and never will wish pero dapat man lang sila ang nagprotect mismo sa sarili nila at the very beginning.
Yung pagjudge nyo ng victim blaming is not applicable in all scenarios.
I am on the side of women who are abused and this is a fact.
I have gone on dates with guys I’ve met on Tinder. Luckily, these men treated me with nothing but utter respect. Nasa bahay ako nung isa and hindi siya nagbigay ng motibo. I also did not expect that anything was going to happen kasi nga second time lang namin nag-meet in person. Throughout the times we did hang out at his place, walang nagyari dahil mabuti siyang lalaki. We ended up being friends.
Pero si Ping? I don’t know. I just think it’s somewhat unfair to blame or even judge the girls and their actions right away.
You can't change your environment but you can change yourself. If you don't know how to swim and you jump into a lake at nalunod ka, who is at fault? Hint... hindi kasalanan nung lake :)
Well this is not victim blaming. Sa mundo ng online dating, you should know the consequences pag pumayag kang pumunta sa place ng lalaki alone during the first meetup. Mas better if sa labas na lang ang meetup if you really wanna be safe. I am saying this kasi I've had experiences like this one. Nasa babae yon kung talagang malakas ang loob pumunta sa place ng guy or kung talagang ayaw mo na may mangyari sa labas talaga ang safest bet.
maybe she wanted to at first but changed her mind pagkadating sa condo, a no is a no regardless of where and when you said it, kahit nag sesex na kayo and you happened to change your mind and wanted to stop, your partner should, kasi kung tinuloy pa rin considered as rape na yun.
Remember that these were minors at that time. MINORS! Na-starstruck, na-inlababo, medyo shungabelles na gullible, but they do not deserve to be raped and treated lik s#!+. NO MEANS NO.
Yes 1:25! I don't expect nothing to happen when I don't want it, and the respects my decision. Happened to me once, I was travelling with a guy, we stayed in hotel. We were not in a relationship, nasa landian portion palang so I couldnt fully give myself yet. Di ko pa feel. Did the guy want sex? Of course! But I told that I'm sorry and not yet ready. He understood and let me sleep peacefully in a separate bed.
@1:08 te hindi mo kailangan maging matapang. Be smarter. It’s clear naman na they like Ping kaya nga willing silang pumunta. Kung una pa lang at nabastusan kana sa chat pa lang, madali lang magblock. Yes, I also blame the girls for doing what they did. Hope they learned from it.
I'm sorry that the girl felt violated. Pero naman kasi, first meeting, derecho na siya agad sa condo. Napapayag din siya magsex. Ano yan budol-budol? Kaya I get what the others are saying here. Women should take care of themselves.
12:45 nag react lang naman si ate sa kwento ng mga nabiktima. Kung basahin mo nga naman ay may pagkukulang sa parte ng mga babae. I agree. Ibang sitwasyon na pwede ka umiwas pero hindi mo ginawa pagsisisi nasa huli.
Yeah right Baron. I'm sure you would have exposed him then if this was the real reason. Everyone knows you're not the type who would keep quiet or avoid controversy.
Remember the issue na inihian diumano ni Baron si Ping in my one of their shootings? Hindi kaya ito rin ung isa sa mga ways ni Baron to show his disgusto kay Ping? Just a thought...
Baron was prosecuted for a sexual crime against the daughter of William Martinez, so he isn’t exactly credible. Ping also filed s case against him for the peeing act. So why did he not use the supposed cime of Ping as a defense. Pwede kasi yang mitigating circumstance. Sasabihin mo na sa tindi ng galit mo because ni-rape yung gf mo, di ka nakapag-pigil . Baron is not one to keep quiet, so bakit hindi niya sinabi in his defense? If true, malaki din kasalanan niya for not speaking.
Hindi yan totoo. According to Ping, Baron has already been drinking the night prior to their scene. Tumambay pa sha sa labas ng room ni Ping at nakipagdaldalan sa kanya habang nagiinom sha. Nasa statement yan ni Ping days after the incident. Naghahanap na lang ng rason yang Baron. Lasing lang talaga sha.
I met ping several years already. He was introduced by a mutual friend. He is nice, funny and gentleman. We had few beers and nothing creepy happened naman
Tambay sa expo? may resto sya don (Penpens resto right infront of cubao expo).
Hindi rin 2.39. He has 6 kids and talagang may time para sa yo? And kahit mabait sa yo, bakit ba di muna kilalanin ang tao bago ijowa? Mahirap ba yun?
Kung fave celeb ko yan, hi Im a fan, i dont mind working for you-like getting ur latte. Pero sleeping with you? Intimacy agad? Have some self respect, hindi ung desires mo agad.
Yeah right Baron. I'm sure you would have exposed him then if this was the real reason. Everyone knows you're not the type who would keep quiet or avoid controversy.
I am for justice but Baron Geisler, STFU and backoff. The world knows you are not a saint. You are as dirty. You have your own records. You have no moral ascendancy to this matter
Hmm, hindi ko alam sa pinas, pero nung college tinetrain kami sa sexual discrimination and violence, and inistress talaga sa amin na it is not consensual unless the other person verbally says yes to the act before they do it... and anytime during the act ay hindi sila nag no at yes parin ang sagot when you ask the person. If someone says yes in the beginning then starts saying no later on then it's a no and the other party should stop. If person doesn't say no but does not definitively say yes either then it's a no. This is the only way to avoid horror situations like the ones described by those women on social media.
Minors ang victims nya, for sure di rin alam ng parents nila kung ano nangyare at ayaw na nila palakihin yung issue dahil sa takot sa parents nila. But yeah, they should file a case
Unfortunately, it seems na consensual lahat kasi the girls agreed so di ko na alam how far they can bring this to justice. If they can prove rape based on evidence baka may chance kaso may physical examination pa yan kung matagal na nangyari mahirap na patunayan. Tapos lahat ng baho ng bawat isa mauungkat for character assassination ng defense which is primarily why girls don’t complain and live with the nightmare na lang.
Is it just me or the girls have almost the same style of writing? And pls this isn’t victim blaming... but to go up to another person’s condo unit alone & whom you will see in person for the very first time?? Like why??
I actually thought i was reading the same message again, pero iba na pala 😅 girls, ingatan natin sarili natin. Why would you meet up with someone for the first time and go straight to his condo?
If totoo to, then it won't be surprising. Predators are usually good at choosing who to victimize. But just because people have certain personalities nobody deserves to get raped. We'll see. Di muna ako magpipick ng side but I'm inclined to believe na may trial dapat na mangyari and kung totoo man dapat managot sa batas ang may sala.
Let’s not dismiss the accusations just because those who came forward seemed to have given consent. I’m one of the women he matched with on Bumble but I never entertained him ‘cause first few messages pa lang, red flags na. He was very persistent and found my social media accounts. His messages screamed predatory.
Same. Where are the blurred usernames/photos of those so-called victims sa mga DMs nila? It's easy to manipulate and brainwash the public especially now na ECQ.
Yes, i thought narrations came from a single person kasi pareho ng tone, ng intro... also well written in terms of thought alignment (not structure per se) but i believe there is a grain of truth in the poster’s accusation
Wait. Don’t jump into conclusion agad agad. Kasi yung mismong nag post is not a victim bale sa kwento lang din nya nalaman. Big deal yung ganitong usapin kaya dapat may ibidensya at mag sampa ng kaso yung mga biktima. Wag agad agad magparatang na rapist ang isang tao hanggang hindi pa napatutunayan na totoo ang mga aligasyon.
Tyinaga ko basahin. Parang iisang tao lang yung nagsulat. Just like the story of that girl about sam morales. At the end of the day, ask yourself, sasama ka talaga at magtitiwala sa taong nakilala mo lang sa dating apps or facebook, etc.?
Yes, I did that. Isang dancer naging FWB ko. Nainlove ako sa kanya at pumayag naman ako maging kabit. Nag away kami ng girl. Pero now na hiwalay sila ng girl, friends na kami ng girl. Naghiwalay silang mag live in partner. Ngayon etong girl married na siya sa ibang guy. Ako rin may sariling boyfriend na na walang sabit.
Oo, may nakikipagkita kahit nakipag usap lang sa FB. Remember naging "dating site" ang FB before nagkaroon ng Tinder. May friend ako nakausap niya ang boyfriend niya sa isang old dating site, asawa na niya ngayon ang Afam na nameet niya sa dating site.
Wag sana i judge ang mga taong naiinlove sa naka chat nila online kasi there are very few fairy tale stories or success stories via online dating. :)
2:35 te baka yang binabanggit mo eh magkachat muna ng matagal para makilala nila isa’t isa. Yung mga babae na nagpost sa twitter eh meet up agad kahit bago pa lang na magkachat. May pafairy tale ka pang nalalaman! Hahaha walang nagjujudge sa mga taong nakakahanap ng partner thru datin apps. Yung mga babaeng involve kay ping iba ang hanap.
Nakialam pa si Baron, pareho lang sila ni Ping. Si Baron nakailang kaso narin ng sexual harassment at nang bubugbog pa ng babae. If Ping will be proven guilty then good! Serves him right. Kung ako kay Baron wag na shang makisawsaw kasi baka sha din sumunod.
Well, he does it because there are more than enough women who are willing to do it with him. That much is clear just by looking at the tweets from them. Let’s be honest here.
If the girls were of age and the hook ups were consensual, not really different from what's commonly being practised these days. Ganyan talaga ang marami sa mga kabataan ngayon. #harshtruth
If someone says No, then the other person needs to respect it. Iba iba ang expectations at limitations ng mga tao when meeting up. But both should respect each other.
I don't think it could be considered consent if they did not definitively say yes. As in verbal yes na hindi nila nirefute while they're doing the act. Kahit hindi sila nag no if they did not say yes then it's a no. A really good video to summarize the concept is "tea and consent" on youtube.
going to a guy's condo on first meetup who already ditched you on your dinner date... cheating with a guy that has a girlfriend you are well aware of..
Girls we are smarter than this. We just voluntarily jumped in a sea of shark wishing they're dolphins.
And don't even tell me of victim blaming. I am a woman and accountable of my actions and my body. Same values I'd instill with my child.
Parang isang tao lang yung yung nagsulat. Ilang beses ko nakita yung term na "atabs" sa mga stories. Kailang pa nauso yung term na yun na magagamit sa parehong storya ng several victims of the same person? I'm not victim shaming but it does sound fishy.
Perhaps most of these girls never said anything before because partly they blame theirselves. It was just that they were given an opportunity to speak now.
Some people here have the gull to blame the girl.Hello! Kahit na ano pang klaseng babae yan,kahit trans pa siya.Fact is,she was violated.Mahirap sa mga biktima na lumabas at ikwento yang karanasan nila.I hope magsampa ng kaso itong taong ito kung totoo ang kanyang mga alegasyon.
Mukhang may consent naman at FB lang sila ng mga girls. Yung mga girls naman na-in love. Gusto ng romance. Eh hindi ganun yung guy. Kaya na offend mga girls.
Even in court they take into consideration the circumstances. Example, if the other party contributed to the happening of the eventual act in question, the degree of culpability shall be determined. Rape is rape, I know. Mali talaga yun. But if you did not say no and you consented to it and you are of age, Hindi rape yun. Just because you regretted it for whatever reason, like he turned out to be nasty and a jerk, or if he didn’t make the proverbial phone call afterwards, sorry, but it’s not rape. Let’s not undermine the real act of rape and the real victIms by categorizing every pissed off party as belonging to that group.
All bark. No bite. Ladies! These will all be treated as hearsay and chismis, & nothing will happen if you do not file charges against him for the violations you experienced 🤷🏻♂️ Demanda niyo once natapos na ang lockdown.
It is never right to blame the victim. But the victims should also be held responsible for themselves. Wag sama lang ng sama kung kani kanino maski artista pa yan. If you are to meet up with strangers you barely know or just met online, make sure na may kasama ka or better kilalanin mo munang mabuti bago ka makipagmeet. Meet mo sa public place di yung derecho agad sa condo. Simple lang naman. Walang mabibiktima kung walang magpapabiktima.
Hindi sa nag victim blaming ako..but common sense lang.. pupunta ka bang mag isa sa condo kahit gabi na and you hardly know the guy except sa tv.. Hindi naman iyan sikat na actor at nakakatakot ang mukha..ganun ba ang mga Filipina girls these days? Wala ng Maria Clara.. Maria Clara Sangria nalang ngayon? But if this is true Sana mapaparusahan ang ping na iyan
It also happened to me way back 2015- 2017 he's been messaging me thru Viber inviting me to go to his condo somewhere in katipunan, sending inappropriate messages, photos and even sa mga shootings niya.good thing never along pumunta to any of his invites til sinabihan Niya ko na it's not his loss and di nman daw ako kagandahan. Pero kinabukasan message siya ulit 😳
Alam niyo hindi madali magsabi ng experience or nangyari sa inuo kapag ganyang cases unang una open ka to public scrutiny at di mo maiiwasan na ijudge ka ng tao. Kaya yung iba natatakot kasi ayan may mga kagaya niyo na nagtatanong “why now?” “Eh ginusto mo yan eh” “ikaw kusang pumunta”?!!! Seryoso ba kayo?
SANA GANYAN DIN YUNG COMMENT NIYO DOON SA SAM TRANS ISSUE. Na ginusto din ng trans yun kaya wag siya nga ngawa ngawa. May pinipili kayo masyado kampihan. Tapos magtataka kayo bakit di nagsasabi agad.. Syempre matatakot. Yung iba nag aantay ng isang maglalakas loob tapos sasabay na para madami sila at may karamay kung anuman mangyari.
Sa mga girls na crying for victim blaming... think about it. Think really hard. When you present your victim blaming card, what does it really mean? It means, you made the wrong decision but can't accept the fact that you made a mistake. It also shows na you don't have the capability to asses the situation kung malalagay ba ang buhay mo sa peligro. Victim blaming actually makes you look inferior.
These women seems like gave consent kay Ping to take advantage of them...red flag na agad if makikipagmeet sa condo agad lalo na if di nmn kayo close or d kau magkarelasyon..kayo pa pumunta sa condo ng lalaki, so nag.eexpect na yung lalaki na may mangyayari..saka if you felt violated, dpat nagreklamo na kau agad or sumigaw kau...
I know the girl from my mutuals and grabe im still shocked
ReplyDeleteWhat the?! Yung mga babae nagkukwento With sexual contents e obvious na kaaffair niya! Dahil nagkakasama na sila Tapos inignore lang sila ganun na. Nahumaling din sila dahil artista e wag silang pagoody!
DeleteBig accusation on her part tbh. Sino kaya nagsasabi ng totoo
Delete1:05 What? Victim blaming talaga? We are talking about rape here, with multiple victims, tapos victim blaming ka? I hope hindi mangyari yan sayo
Deleteparang kilala ko yung ex ni baron who was raped
ReplyDeleteSino?
DeleteOMG!
ReplyDeleteI'm with ping medina. Black mail lang yan sa kanya
ReplyDeleteBlack mail? dami na nagpopost na victim nya eh..
Deleteand baron threatened to expose him last 2016
Deleteblack mail is kung meron kang hard evidence sa tao. kung wala paano siya mabablackmail?
Delete2:09, kaya ang hirap maghabla kasi kung ang mga korte tulad mo kelangan ng hard evidence, wala na. pag ni re rape ka, ikaw lang at ang rapist mo. walang witness. kung may presence of mind ka pa pagkatapos na magpa-medico legal, okay good. Pero yung iba nauunahan ng takot at hiya. Wala ng makakalap na ebidensya pag nagkalakas ng loob na magsumbong. Grabe ka.
DeleteYuckkk. Ping Medina na sobrang makalait sa Presidente, ayan nakarma ka.
ReplyDelete12:31 ayy naiconnect?
Deletekung ganyan ka mag-isip, ung presidente, kelan kaya ang karma niya?
bat kakarmahin ung presidente? naiconnect mo din ah?
DeleteIt's like the pot calling the kettle black pero mas Malala si Ping.
Deletemas malala si Ping? sure ka diyan?
DeleteYaaan. Nasagot mo na why may issue saknya ngayon. Why all of a sudden db? Eh kasi nga, galit siya sa presidente.
Delete1:18 if we still have to answer that for you, then you're hopeless. Bye.
Delete1:25 AM - hey genius, Ping isn't the president so NO, walang lalala sa presidente mo
DeleteHala popcorn please
ReplyDeleteAno ba ito it is a case of sinong walwal ang paniniwalaan!? Lol
ReplyDeletekung sinong mas dirty, ganoon.
DeleteA problematic knows another problematic lol
Deleteomg.. bakit di mo ko na biktima ping!
ReplyDeletecharot!
Kadiri baks
Deletehow low can you go, girl?? and ping medina?? wala ka bang standards?
DeleteYuck
DeleteTrue. Knew one girl he took advantage of.
ReplyDeleteGusto ko pa naman siya kasi napaka galing na artista. But now, no thanks.
ReplyDeleteidk but i like his brother alex mmedina more than him.
DeleteMas bet ko si Alex tbh. Sana totoo yung sabi ng isang girl na mababait raw yung ibang Medina.
DeleteAy, iba tayo ng taste. Gusto ko 'yung tatay nilang si Pen. 😊
Deleteno same lang din pati si alex, read the thread on twitter pareho lang sila
DeleteAt mas gorgeous, like ko na sya hihihi
DeletePing if this is true I hope you’ll get what you deserve! Sa dami ng problema ng mundo at sa COVID, this is evil!
ReplyDeleteLet's see, he is well off, a well known actor, at siga siga. That's a recipe that would get girls curious and wants to be the "one" who can tame the beast. He is a player so stop crying when you get played. Sorry but you don't have the right to complain when you pet a crazy dog and get bitten by it.
ReplyDelete2020 and still victim blaming 🤮
DeleteI know and these girls played his game. And tells their eww story candidly. Parang nakikipagwentuhan lang. they were treated like s—t. And they sounded like it’s nothing.
DeleteSo the victim is always innocent?
DeleteAgree with 1237!
DeleteWow 12:37, sana hindi mangyare sayo o sa mga kakilala mo
DeleteStop with that victim blaming ek ek na yan dahil kung matino kang babae hindi ka sasama sa lalake sa condo.
DeleteThere are real victims and there are those who are pa-victim.
DeleteThey were underaged and they were raped... and you blame them? Ay wow! People like you are the reason why victims don't come out and fight back.
Deletevictim blaming pa din ba tayo????
DeleteSabi nga daw diba at first sweet sweet pa siya.
DeleteAnd why shouldn't the victim be blamed? It takes two to tango. The victims has her own culpability.
DeleteYep. Be smart. Don't be a victim. I thought this was the era of women empowerment? Puro Me Too na lang e.
DeleteSana if true, baron and gf nagfile ng rape case against him that time nakatulong pa sila sa lahat ng victims and possible victims. Baka sakaling nastop sya.
ReplyDeleteYeah yan ang malaking question e. Criminal act yun bakit hindi finile at peed lang?
Delete1:33 and 12:39 hindi niyo naisip na baka hindi sila paniwalaan? Or baka ayaw na ng girl na palakihin pa hoping it will just go away.
DeleteGrabeh nga mga tao mkbash kay baron that time. People are always listening to pings side kesyo naihian etc.
Deletecoming from a girl who experienced abuse madaling sabihin, but just talking about it napakahirap. stop victim blaming
Delete2:11 or because they know they are at fault too.. that it is their decision to come to him, no one said they were kidnapped or something or brought to his by force.. they wander in the lion’s den, what do they expect?
Delete2:44 well can't blame them, inihian with no explanation eh
Delete1:33am, maybe because sa father niya na respectable person in the industry plus bashing against Baron rin that time. No one would believe him.
DeleteVictims should speak out...Expose him!
ReplyDeleteWere those girls really that gullible? Tsk. Tsk. I mean why go enter the lion's den and later decry Rape? Who is at fault really?
ReplyDeleteEto na naman tayo sa victim-blaming! SMDH.
DeleteVictim blaming at its finest. Pabibo lang?
Delete@1245 mahirap sabihin unless ikaw yung nandoon. sana lahat ng tao kasing tapang mo and ganun din kagaling mag-isip. kung lahat sana kasing galing mo, wala ng biktima.
DeleteVictim blaming?
DeleteMay kapareho mo pa pala mag isip no? Do you know wives are being raped by their husbands too? No is no, hon. Regardless if you're in a relationship with him.
DeleteAy victim blaming ka teh. Consent teh. Kahit hubo't-hubad na kayo and you changed your mind, you should be able to leave someone's place unharmed.
DeletePero seriously, would you really go to a condo alone expecting nothing will happen?!
DeleteI dont think it’s victim blaming. What 12:45 meant was that these girls should also take responsibility for their actions. I feel sorry for these girls but you they also have a part in it..
DeleteMeeting a guy you met in Bumble for the first time and you agreed to go to his condo? Girl, kahit sino naman yata alam na kung ano susunod na mangyayari but you still went there.. Victim blaming? Yes.. cause she herself did not take care for herself..
Deletebaka ito din yung kapag naka shorts na yung babae, nag i-invite na ng rape kung mag isip.
DeleteAng layo ng pagsusuot ng shorts in public at going to a practically stranger's home willingly. Nobody forced her to go. If the tone was forceful, she could have turned her phone off and she could have gone off another way. Eh talagang gusto din niya. Ingatan niyo kasi sarili niyo para di kayo naiisahan.
DeleteHi 1:21 and to all judgers of victim blaming. I dont think you really understand what you are claiming for. Yung mga wife/ in a relationship of course their case is different. No is a no and rape is rape. Pero dun sa mga ladies na napunta sa mga lugar na hindi nila totally kilala ung pupuntahan nila, diba may fault din sa side nila? I am not saying na deserve nila yung bad outcome and never will wish pero dapat man lang sila ang nagprotect mismo sa sarili nila at the very beginning.
DeleteYung pagjudge nyo ng victim blaming is not applicable in all scenarios.
I am on the side of women who are abused and this is a fact.
True, why would any thinking person meet a stranger alone in a private setting? That’s just dumb. That’s asking for trouble.
Delete12:45
DeleteSTOP VICTIM BLAMING!
12:45, Hay naku, very true. Unless you want to go to bed with him, choose to meet him at a public coffee shop instead.
DeleteMagamit lang talaga ung word ba victim blaming no?
DeleteTrue! Babae ako kaya iingatan ko sarili ko. I can’t control all circumstances so I am being extra careful with my actions.
Delete2:09 Exactly my point. Kung ayaw na mabastos message pa lang at medyo iba na sya, block. End.
DeleteI have gone on dates with guys I’ve met on Tinder. Luckily, these men treated me with nothing but utter respect. Nasa bahay ako nung isa and hindi siya nagbigay ng motibo. I also did not expect that anything was going to happen kasi nga second time lang namin nag-meet in person. Throughout the times we did hang out at his place, walang nagyari dahil mabuti siyang lalaki. We ended up being friends.
DeletePero si Ping? I don’t know. I just think it’s somewhat unfair to blame or even judge the girls and their actions right away.
You can't change your environment but you can change yourself. If you don't know how to swim and you jump into a lake at nalunod ka, who is at fault? Hint... hindi kasalanan nung lake :)
DeleteWell this is not victim blaming. Sa mundo ng online dating, you should know the consequences pag pumayag kang pumunta sa place ng lalaki alone during the first meetup.
DeleteMas better if sa labas na lang ang meetup if you really wanna be safe. I am saying this kasi I've had experiences like this one. Nasa babae yon kung talagang malakas ang loob pumunta sa place ng guy or kung talagang ayaw mo na may mangyari sa labas talaga ang safest bet.
i agree with 1245 kung matino kang pinalaki at may morals ka you wouldnt do any of what these supposed victims did. period.
DeleteBakit victim blaming kung ginusto din nmn ng babae? Nobody forced them to go to his place.
Deletemaybe she wanted to at first but changed her mind pagkadating sa condo, a no is a no regardless of where and when you said it, kahit nag sesex na kayo and you happened to change your mind and wanted to stop, your partner should, kasi kung tinuloy pa rin considered as rape na yun.
DeleteRemember that these were minors at that time. MINORS! Na-starstruck, na-inlababo, medyo shungabelles na gullible, but they do not deserve to be raped and treated lik s#!+. NO MEANS NO.
DeleteYes 1:25! I don't expect nothing to happen when I don't want it, and the respects my decision. Happened to me once, I was travelling with a guy, we stayed in hotel. We were not in a relationship, nasa landian portion palang so I couldnt fully give myself yet. Di ko pa feel. Did the guy want sex? Of course! But I told that I'm sorry and not yet ready. He understood and let me sleep peacefully in a separate bed.
Delete@1:08 te hindi mo kailangan maging matapang. Be smarter. It’s clear naman na they like Ping kaya nga willing silang pumunta. Kung una pa lang at nabastusan kana sa chat pa lang, madali lang magblock. Yes, I also blame the girls for doing what they did. Hope they learned from it.
DeleteWere you that stupid? Victim blaming at its finest. 2020 na uy!
DeleteI'm sorry that the girl felt violated.
DeletePero naman kasi, first meeting, derecho na siya agad sa condo. Napapayag din siya magsex.
Ano yan budol-budol?
Kaya I get what the others are saying here. Women should take care of themselves.
12:45 nag react lang naman si ate sa kwento ng mga nabiktima. Kung basahin mo nga naman ay may pagkukulang sa parte ng mga babae. I agree. Ibang sitwasyon na pwede ka umiwas pero hindi mo ginawa pagsisisi nasa huli.
DeleteI believed the ladies who accused him. Not much to Baron Geisler, since may history din siya ng sexual harassment sa ibang actresses
ReplyDeleteYeah right Baron. I'm sure you would have exposed him then if this was the real reason. Everyone knows you're not the type who would keep quiet or avoid controversy.
ReplyDeleteRemember the issue na inihian diumano ni Baron si Ping in my one of their shootings? Hindi kaya ito rin ung isa sa mga ways ni Baron to show his disgusto kay Ping? Just a thought...
DeleteGiven na hindi maganda pagkakakilala kay Baron. I think kahit sabihin niya ni-rape GF niya mas papaniwalaan pa rin si Ping
Delete2:15 oo baks, kakasabi lang ni Baron. Di mo binasa?
DeleteBaron just said it.
DeleteBaron was prosecuted for a sexual crime against the daughter of William Martinez, so he isn’t exactly credible. Ping also filed s case against him for the peeing act. So why did he not use the supposed cime of Ping as a defense. Pwede kasi yang mitigating circumstance. Sasabihin mo na sa tindi ng galit mo because ni-rape yung gf mo, di ka nakapag-pigil . Baron is not one to keep quiet, so bakit hindi niya sinabi in his defense? If true, malaki din kasalanan niya for not speaking.
DeleteHindi yan totoo. According to Ping, Baron has already been drinking the night prior to their scene. Tumambay pa sha sa labas ng room ni Ping at nakipagdaldalan sa kanya habang nagiinom sha. Nasa statement yan ni Ping days after the incident. Naghahanap na lang ng rason yang Baron. Lasing lang talaga sha.
DeleteI met ping several years already. He was introduced by a mutual friend. He is nice, funny and gentleman. We had few beers and nothing creepy happened naman
ReplyDeleteTambay sa expo? may resto sya don (Penpens resto right infront of cubao expo).
Baka hindi ka type
Deletelols 2:38
Delete2:28 girl nalunok ko yung sardinas ng buong buo dahil sayo
DeleteHaha burn ka ni 2:28 ghorl
DeleteHahahahaha ang grabe ng tawa ko sayo 2:28
Delete2:28 AM - OMG! hats off to you sir or madam. This is an epic mic drop line!
Deleteibang girls nmn kasi porket celeb natataranta na...mga lowkey famewhore din. i don't victim blame ha..pro magisip isip din kasi ndi puro puso. kaloka!
ReplyDeletePaano pag favourite mong celeb ayain ka? Paano kung si Brad Pitt for example.
DeleteHaha if I go, I’ll take responsibility for whatever happened and not put the person in the bad light alone.
Delete2:39 AM you are the best example my dear :)
DeleteHindi rin 2.39. He has 6 kids and talagang may time para sa yo? And kahit mabait sa yo, bakit ba di muna kilalanin ang tao bago ijowa? Mahirap ba yun?
DeleteKung fave celeb ko yan, hi Im a fan, i dont mind working for you-like getting ur latte. Pero sleeping with you? Intimacy agad? Have some self respect, hindi ung desires mo agad.
if si brad pitt?! that's totally a diff scenario ghorl. kapag panget rape, kapag pogi date. go figure.
DeleteThen there’s something wrong with you 2:39am. Isa kang marupok na nilalang
Deleteibang usapan na yon😜
Delete2:39 hindi naman siya si Brad Pitt sis. Milya milyang hindi.
DeleteKaya nga sabi ko "paano"
DeleteYeah right Baron. I'm sure you would have exposed him then if this was the real reason. Everyone knows you're not the type who would keep quiet or avoid controversy.
ReplyDeleteI am for justice but Baron Geisler, STFU and backoff. The world knows you are not a saint. You are as dirty. You have your own records. You have no moral ascendancy to this matter
ReplyDeleteSORRY, BUT I DONT BUY THIS THREAD AGAINST PING. BARON SUDDENLY STEPPED IN? I DONT KNOW MGA BADET BUT IM NOT CONVINCED YET.
ReplyDeleteThen don't buy it.
DeleteLumipat na siya sa twitter. Naghahanap siguro ng bagong mabibiktima doon.
ReplyDeleteAng lala sexual predator
ReplyDeleteHe treated those girls badly. But sa mga nabasa ko consensual s naman, unless they were minors at the time it happened then they can pin him down.
ReplyDeleteHmm, hindi ko alam sa pinas, pero nung college tinetrain kami sa sexual discrimination and violence, and inistress talaga sa amin na it is not consensual unless the other person verbally says yes to the act before they do it... and anytime during the act ay hindi sila nag no at yes parin ang sagot when you ask the person. If someone says yes in the beginning then starts saying no later on then it's a no and the other party should stop. If person doesn't say no but does not definitively say yes either then it's a no. This is the only way to avoid horror situations like the ones described by those women on social media.
DeleteAno ba ang statute of limitations ng rape? Kung magsama sama sila and file a case against him ng magkaalaman na
ReplyDeleteMinors ang victims nya, for sure di rin alam ng parents nila kung ano nangyare at ayaw na nila palakihin yung issue dahil sa takot sa parents nila. But yeah, they should file a case
DeleteUnfortunately, it seems na consensual lahat kasi the girls agreed so di ko na alam how far they can bring this to justice. If they can prove rape based on evidence baka may chance kaso may physical examination pa yan kung matagal na nangyari mahirap na patunayan. Tapos lahat ng baho ng bawat isa mauungkat for character assassination ng defense which is primarily why girls don’t complain and live with the nightmare na lang.
DeleteWow, 12:54. Victim blaming?
ReplyDeleteNo just an eye opener that those girls went to him willingly. So they put themselves to the situation.
DeleteI follow Ping sa Twitter and mahilig sya mag-like and comment sa mga post about sex
ReplyDeleteYou have to file a case against this guy.Pag napatunayan na nang rape yan,mabubulok siya sa bilangguan.
ReplyDeleteIs it just me or the girls have almost the same style of writing? And pls this isn’t victim blaming... but to go up to another person’s condo unit alone & whom you will see in person for the very first time?? Like why??
ReplyDeleteIkr! They all play the same tune.
DeleteYes! Napansin ko rin yan. Same style of writing. Same ng tono ng pagkwento. Conyo na taglish. I don't buy this YET
DeleteI actually thought i was reading the same message again, pero iba na pala 😅 girls, ingatan natin sarili natin. Why would you meet up with someone for the first time and go straight to his condo?
Deletetingin ko not same style of writing but same personality. not victim blaming pero yun ang masamang consequence ng pagiging walwal at easy nila.
DeleteNoticed that too. I had to check their twitter handle I thought it was the same person
DeleteIf totoo to, then it won't be surprising. Predators are usually good at choosing who to victimize. But just because people have certain personalities nobody deserves to get raped. We'll see. Di muna ako magpipick ng side but I'm inclined to believe na may trial dapat na mangyari and kung totoo man dapat managot sa batas ang may sala.
DeleteLet’s not dismiss the accusations just because those who came forward seemed to have given consent. I’m one of the women he matched with on Bumble but I never entertained him ‘cause first few messages pa lang, red flags na. He was very persistent and found my social media accounts. His messages screamed predatory.
DeleteSame. Where are the blurred usernames/photos of those so-called victims sa mga DMs nila? It's easy to manipulate and brainwash the public especially now na ECQ.
DeleteAkala ko ako lang nakapansin. Same style of writing. Same tune. Hmmm. 🤔
DeleteYes, i thought narrations came from a single person kasi pareho ng tone, ng intro... also well written in terms of thought alignment (not structure per se) but i believe there is a grain of truth in the poster’s accusation
DeleteAko din. Same ng intro bawat comment kaya binasa ko ulit sa taas. Haha
Deleteread the whole thread on twitter..maraming screenshots specially from facebook ung mga random girls na inaadd nya,hindi conyo ung mga yun
DeleteWho in their right mind would want this guy? So Baboy. Thanks for the warning
ReplyDeleteHmmm, maraming babaing pumapatol sa kanya e. Kaya nga he does what he does.
DeleteAs if!
DeleteSinasabi dyan,the women were minors.Ang minors madaling utuin.So dapat magbogay ng salaysay yan sa mga police.
DeleteAbangan ang next na chapter. I'm sure may mga susunod pa and this is just the beginning!!!
ReplyDeleteWait. Don’t jump into conclusion agad agad. Kasi yung mismong nag post is not a victim bale sa kwento lang din nya nalaman. Big deal yung ganitong usapin kaya dapat may ibidensya at mag sampa ng kaso yung mga biktima. Wag agad agad magparatang na rapist ang isang tao hanggang hindi pa napatutunayan na totoo ang mga aligasyon.
ReplyDeleteKahit isa siya or marami siya,dapat pa rin itong seryosohin.Rape is rape.Kahit na haliparot ka pa.Dapat magfile ng for.al complaint ang babae.
DeleteTyinaga ko basahin. Parang iisang tao lang yung nagsulat. Just like the story of that girl about sam morales. At the end of the day, ask yourself, sasama ka talaga at magtitiwala sa taong nakilala mo lang sa dating apps or facebook, etc.?
ReplyDeleteYes, I did that. Isang dancer naging FWB ko. Nainlove ako sa kanya at pumayag naman ako maging kabit. Nag away kami ng girl. Pero now na hiwalay sila ng girl, friends na kami ng girl. Naghiwalay silang mag live in partner. Ngayon etong girl married na siya sa ibang guy. Ako rin may sariling boyfriend na na walang sabit.
DeleteOo, may nakikipagkita kahit nakipag usap lang sa FB. Remember naging "dating site" ang FB before nagkaroon ng Tinder. May friend ako nakausap niya ang boyfriend niya sa isang old dating site, asawa na niya ngayon ang Afam na nameet niya sa dating site.
Wag sana i judge ang mga taong naiinlove sa naka chat nila online kasi there are very few fairy tale stories or success stories via online dating. :)
Hindi naman ikaw 2:35 .. yung mga babaeng makikipag meet up sa lalaking hindi kilala personally tapos magrereklamo pagmay nangyaring masama..
Delete2:35 te baka yang binabanggit mo eh magkachat muna ng matagal para makilala nila isa’t isa. Yung mga babae na nagpost sa twitter eh meet up agad kahit bago pa lang na magkachat. May pafairy tale ka pang nalalaman! Hahaha walang nagjujudge sa mga taong nakakahanap ng partner thru datin apps. Yung mga babaeng involve kay ping iba ang hanap.
DeletePro nung first meetup nyo, drtso agad sa condo nung guy?
DeleteNakialam pa si Baron, pareho lang sila ni Ping. Si Baron nakailang kaso narin ng sexual harassment at nang bubugbog pa ng babae. If Ping will be proven guilty then good! Serves him right. Kung ako kay Baron wag na shang makisawsaw kasi baka sha din sumunod.
ReplyDeleteTruuee. Nakisakay pa eh pati naman sya nang abuso din
DeleteWell, he does it because there are more than enough women who are willing to do it with him. That much is clear just by looking at the tweets from them. Let’s be honest here.
ReplyDeleteIf the girls were of age and the hook ups were consensual, not really different from what's commonly being practised these days. Ganyan talaga ang marami sa mga kabataan ngayon. #harshtruth
DeleteIt looks like these women consented to be with him anyway, so why blame him? It takes two to tango, ika nga.
ReplyDeleteIf someone says No, then the other person needs to respect it. Iba iba ang expectations at limitations ng mga tao when meeting up. But both should respect each other.
DeleteI don't think it could be considered consent if they did not definitively say yes. As in verbal yes na hindi nila nirefute while they're doing the act. Kahit hindi sila nag no if they did not say yes then it's a no. A really good video to summarize the concept is "tea and consent" on youtube.
DeleteYan ba ang definition mo ng sexual assault? 2 tao involved? Hindi papasok dito ang concept ng consent?
DeleteMaybe they were young and vulnerable.Anyway,they should file a case against this guy
DeleteBlackmail lang yan. Sus
ReplyDeleteHindi naman credible si baron.
ReplyDeleteSa dami ng nag post, nag focus ka lang kay Baron e ang iksi nga lang ng sinabi niya
DeleteLol, any girl who would want to meet up with him must be very desperate. Hindi ko gets sila.
ReplyDeleteBaka na hypnotize sila or carried away sila especially na artista siya.
DeleteTypical girls na porke artista khit di nman gwapo at superstar eh sasamahan. Mga desperada tapos play victim.
DeletePerfect ka siguro. Lahat siguro ng decision tama.
DeleteThis! I had to google the guy and I was like whuuuut, that's an actor? Anyway, he sounds disgusting.
DeleteI blame him and I blame the girls too. Pumatol din sila e.
ReplyDeleteI blame you for blaming the girls.
Deletegoing to a guy's condo on first meetup who already ditched you on your dinner date...
ReplyDeletecheating with a guy that has a girlfriend you are well aware of..
Girls we are smarter than this. We just voluntarily jumped in a sea of shark wishing they're dolphins.
And don't even tell me of victim blaming. I am a woman and accountable of my actions and my body. Same values I'd instill with my child.
Katakoooot!!!!
ReplyDeleteAkala ko yung matanda, tatay pala nya yun. Grabe
ReplyDeleteSam Morales was like, 'Yes men! May bagong issue, makahinga ako ng maluwag.'
ReplyDeleteParang isang tao lang yung yung nagsulat. Ilang beses ko nakita yung term na "atabs" sa mga stories. Kailang pa nauso yung term na yun na magagamit sa parehong storya ng several victims of the same person? I'm not victim shaming but it does sound fishy.
ReplyDeletePerhaps most of these girls never said anything before because partly they blame theirselves. It was just that they were given an opportunity to speak now.
ReplyDeleteNaku sana maimbestigahan na yan at sana hindi lang paninira sa kanya dahil vocal sa pagcriticize sa pangulo
ReplyDeleteOh my karma.
ReplyDeleteSome people here have the gull to blame the girl.Hello! Kahit na ano pang klaseng babae yan,kahit trans pa siya.Fact is,she was violated.Mahirap sa mga biktima na lumabas at ikwento yang karanasan nila.I hope magsampa ng kaso itong taong ito kung totoo ang kanyang mga alegasyon.
ReplyDeleteMukhang may consent naman at FB lang sila ng mga girls. Yung mga girls naman na-in love. Gusto ng romance. Eh hindi ganun yung guy. Kaya na offend mga girls.
ReplyDeleteEven in court they take into consideration the circumstances. Example, if the other party contributed to the happening of the eventual act in question, the degree of culpability shall be determined. Rape is rape, I know. Mali talaga yun. But if you did not say no and you consented to it and you are of age, Hindi rape yun. Just because you regretted it for whatever reason, like he turned out to be nasty and a jerk, or if he didn’t make the proverbial phone call afterwards, sorry, but it’s not rape. Let’s not undermine the real act of rape and the real victIms by categorizing every pissed off party as belonging to that group.
ReplyDeleteIlabas ang video. Charot! Pero seriously anyone can accuse someone especially in social media
ReplyDeleteSorry ha but a bunch of stories with no proof. Hard evidence, prove he’s guilty beyond reasonable doubt then make him pay,
ReplyDeleteWith So many wattpad authors now I can imagine the twist and turns of this story. Proof muna pls bago kayo magbigay ng opinion niyo.
Dati galit na galit ang mga Tao kay Baron dahil kay Ping. ano ngayon? totoo pala lahat ng sinabi ni B hahaha
ReplyDeleteAll bark. No bite.
ReplyDeleteLadies!
These will all be treated as hearsay and chismis, & nothing will happen if you do not file charges against him for the violations you experienced 🤷🏻♂️
Demanda niyo once natapos na ang lockdown.
It is never right to blame the victim. But the victims should also be held responsible for themselves. Wag sama lang ng sama kung kani kanino maski artista pa yan. If you are to meet up with strangers you barely know or just met online, make sure na may kasama ka or better kilalanin mo munang mabuti bago ka makipagmeet. Meet mo sa public place di yung derecho agad sa condo. Simple lang naman. Walang mabibiktima kung walang magpapabiktima.
ReplyDeleteBefore pa man... i know that may malalim na reason why inihian ni Baron c Ping....
ReplyDeletePing is worse than Baron being an alcoholic... Tsk tsk
I wonder who the "friend" na partner in crime is. This is so horrible.
ReplyDeleteWoah.
ReplyDeleteIf true vakit ngayun lang
ReplyDeleteBut..but..but they consented! They could’ve just blocked him pero bakit nakipgkita pa din sila?
ReplyDeleteHindi sa nag victim blaming ako..but common sense lang.. pupunta ka bang mag isa sa condo kahit gabi na and you hardly know the guy except sa tv.. Hindi naman iyan sikat na actor at nakakatakot ang mukha..ganun ba ang mga Filipina girls these days? Wala ng Maria Clara.. Maria Clara Sangria nalang ngayon? But if this is true Sana mapaparusahan ang ping na iyan
ReplyDeleteIt also happened to me way back 2015- 2017 he's been messaging me thru Viber inviting me to go to his condo somewhere in katipunan, sending inappropriate messages, photos and even sa mga shootings niya.good thing never along pumunta to any of his invites til sinabihan Niya ko na it's not his loss and di nman daw ako kagandahan. Pero kinabukasan message siya ulit 😳
ReplyDeleteAlam niyo hindi madali magsabi ng experience or nangyari sa inuo kapag ganyang cases unang una open ka to public scrutiny at di mo maiiwasan na ijudge ka ng tao. Kaya yung iba natatakot kasi ayan may mga kagaya niyo na nagtatanong “why now?” “Eh ginusto mo yan eh” “ikaw kusang pumunta”?!!! Seryoso ba kayo?
ReplyDeleteSANA GANYAN DIN YUNG COMMENT NIYO DOON SA SAM TRANS ISSUE. Na ginusto din ng trans yun kaya wag siya nga ngawa ngawa. May pinipili kayo masyado kampihan. Tapos magtataka kayo bakit di nagsasabi agad.. Syempre matatakot. Yung iba nag aantay ng isang maglalakas loob tapos sasabay na para madami sila at may karamay kung anuman mangyari.
Sa mga girls na crying for victim blaming... think about it. Think really hard. When you present your victim blaming card, what does it really mean? It means, you made the wrong decision but can't accept the fact that you made a mistake. It also shows na you don't have the capability to asses the situation kung malalagay ba ang buhay mo sa peligro. Victim blaming actually makes you look inferior.
ReplyDeleteThese women seems like gave consent kay Ping to take advantage of them...red flag na agad if makikipagmeet sa condo agad lalo na if di nmn kayo close or d kau magkarelasyon..kayo pa pumunta sa condo ng lalaki, so nag.eexpect na yung lalaki na may mangyayari..saka if you felt violated, dpat nagreklamo na kau agad or sumigaw kau...
ReplyDeletePareho may mali si Ping and yun girls pero yun mali ni Ping is already a crime punishable by law if he is proven guilty in court. Mas Malala si Ping.
ReplyDelete