Oh tapos? So nothing ganun nalang? Sam manipulated her and others just because she was bullied as child. Tama lang yung ginawa niya and the other victims para hindi na dumami yung victims niya.
So anong point mo? Na normal lang yang kasamaang yan? Obviously, hindi sya ang una. Pero can you please stop comparing? Hindi porket nangyari na dati, eh kasasanayan nalang natin.
Yes, and marami pang susunod if topics like this will not be discussed in the open. Wag mong idownplay ung pangyayari dahil lang sa hindi ito unique case. The fact that catfishing, lalo na to this extent, is not unique, ay nakakatakot. This topic is ripe for discussion and people should be aware, lalo na ug ganito na targeted sa isang demographics because of hate, this Sam Morales can escalate her psychotic modus if pababayaan lang.
Yes tama ka. Marami nang nacatfish. Pero iilan lang sa kanila may lakas ng loob lumabas at magsalita. Kaya mas lalo lumalakas loob ng mga bully. Kala kasi nila sa lahat ng oras makakalusot sila sa mga ginagawa nila
hindi po kase normal yung reason niya, she have a total of 10 victims ever since na high school siya and baka madagdagan pa nga yan. hindi lang to about sa nangyari sa trans, may sakit na ata yang sam na yan siya na nga nagsabi "addiction" niya na.
So?e ano kung its not the first?does it make it right?wala sa tamang pag iisip ang gagawa nyan..lakas ng trip to manipulate someone's feelings and pagiisip..walang tama sa ginawa nyang sam kaya wag nyo ng kampihan and itolerate..gano katotoo yung nabully sya ng gays for her to do this..this sam has some insecurities and self issues..something na hindi makalabas..deal with your own issues sam, see a doctor wag kang mangdamay ng walang malay na tao
Well, guys! Ito na lang tandaan natin: HINDI TAYO MALOLOKO KUNG HINDI TAYO MAGPAPALOKO! Marupok kasi si ate gurl jzan. Siya nagpush, kung babasahin niyo ang buong kuwento. But well, guess iba iba naman ang tao. Minahal na niya yung guy, pero worse, niloloko lang pala siya. Nakuha naman niya ang simpatya ng buong twitter world. So good for Jzan. Nakabawi na siya.
Aminado ako when I was a kid and learned about mIRC and yahoo groups, I also played someone. In short, I catfished people online. Siguro I was 10 yo at that time. Nakakaamaze lang to be someone you’re not (bata pa naman ako nun). You get to be someone who’s going to make someone fall in love with you. May thrill siya sakin nung bata ako.
In college, I was catfished by someone. Hahahaha karma. Iniyakan ko siya and by that time ang lupit na ng editing skills nung 2009. Siguro I invested my 3 months? Naiyak na lang din ako kasi I thought he is real. I got over it naman but then I learned that no one should ever play with someone’s feelings.
When I read the thread and all of Sam’s victims, there’s a similarity for all eh. Most of the victims wanted to be loved by someone who won’t judge them. Which makes it harder to accept na na catfish ka nga.
Lesson learned: don’t look for love online. Maliit lang ang ratio ng lovers online na successful. I just shared my insights about this. And I am sorry for that 1 person I catfished before and for the person who catfished me? Hahahahahahaha whoever you are, sana nagmature ka na din.
Hindi ako makapaniwala sa ibang comments dito na sisisihin pa yung victim/s. Isa ako sa mga tao na ayaw yung pagiging OA ng LGBT minsan. But this one is different. The lie was DELIBERATE. May effort talaga na manloko. Nag hire pa ng accomplice. Target din talaga. Anong mararamdaman niyo pag may mag target sa inyo ng ganyan. Wala bang konting compassion? I'm a girl pero I can't imagine how hard it is for our LGBT friends to find true love. Kaya they are prone to catfishing or being taken advantage of. They're all just humans like us who also want someone to love & be loved. It sounds cheesy but that's how it is.
Ito ung nag trending kagabi. Another person who was victim of trial by publicity. Sana formal charges ginawa hindi thru socmed... Tayong mga taga basa eh hindi pa rin natin alam ang totoong story.
Oo nga no! Now that I think about it, sabi nung trans sa posts niya may mga na-delete na raw siya kasi sobrang sakit daw. Baka yung mga na-delete niya might mean something.
Parang wala namang batas against catfishing?please correct me if Im wrong. And why not trial by publicity, matindi ung ginawa nila sa tao so there is the consenquence. People deserve to know of this modus operandi para hndi na maulit sa iba, since gawain nga nila to.
3:09 Anong kaso halimbawang kakasuhan nya? Catfish ba or milkfish? I know this is just one side of the story. And Sam has all the time to rebut now. Maglabas din sya ng resibo.
The trans learned her lesson the hard way.. at first p lng ngduda na xa bat nya p tinuloy? Also realtalk,pg may hitsura tlga nakakalimutan mag isip noh.. wga kasi puro damdamin..dpat utak din..
Nakakabore nga kaya ko rin binasa. Nagsayang lamg ako ng oras. Bakla ako pero girl wala akong simpatiya sa kanya. Halatang ginusto naman niya. Siya yung habol ng habol. Innocent daw. Wow! Pasalamat na lamg siya nakatikim siya.
9:35 same sentiments. i mean? she knew what she was signing up for and had all the time and instances to just get away from it all pero tigas din ang ulo eh. that's probably all on her. alam na alam nyang di sya sineseryoso eh. pinipilit pa nya. ayan.
9:35, ay wow grabe ka! Victim blaming! At kelangan pa talaga magpasalamat ang biktima kasi nakatikim? You’re disgusting! Isa ka sa mga rason kung bakit di nirerespeto ang lgbtq+ kasi ikaw mismo walang respeto sa kapwa mo!
Truelagen ghorl! Puro marupok, parang ginawa ni ate na lisensiya ang pagiging marupok para maging tanga. Guwapo naman kasi yung guy, kung pangit ba yan hahabul habulin niya?
And with consent yung act nung poser, so why are other people on Twitter pleading r***? Weird. Doesn't matter if after the act she regretted it, hindi pa din yung criminal offense, she consented it, even said, pa-last na daw. Sheesh.
Agree. Push pa ng push si ate mo gurl kahit na ang dami na red flags. Enabler na nga sya eh, di na sya victim. Blatantly, niloloko na sya, go pa din si ate, habol galore pa din. Realistic yung opinion ni alex, idealistic yung opinion ni bela.
Dami kasi nagpauto ayan tuloy. Hindi porket kinilig ka sa chat eh totohanan na yan. Gamitin din ang utak at wag agad magtitiwala. Walang manloloko kung walang nagpaloko.
Sis, di natin maiintindihan yung nararamdaman nila kasi considered minority sila. Tayo na mga straight, madali sa atin to seek and find love pero sa kanila.. di ganun kadali. Hindi porket naloko eh hahayaan lang natin magtagumpay at magpatuloy ang mga manloloko!
7:29, exactly! 12:50, madami ngang time pero mema ka lang. Try to use your precious time to educate yourself and empathize with others especially the minority!
I agree ang daming mas importanteng bagay na dapat magtuunan. Although I don’t condone Sam’s evil deeds. So disturbing. Pero I also don’t condone the trans’ actions. Mas maigi na nag file na lang sya ng charges instead na mag mala The Buzz expose sa socmed. Isa pa hindi sya aabot sa ganyang sakit kung di sya pabalik-balik sa lalaki (Sam). Umpisa pa lang ang toxic na ng relationship nila.
8:19 ayan na naman sa mga kasuhan at file charges na yan. Bago magsalita ng ganyan siguraduhing may experience ka dapat sa court system ng Pilipinas, sigurado akong hindi mo alam kung gaano kahirap, katagal at kagastos magfile ng kaso dito. File pa lang yan. Kung kailan magkakaroon ng hearning matagalan pa yan.
This is not about the gender, meron ding straight na babae na nabiktima ni Sam. Hindi to about sa trans na catfish, about to sa pangcacatfish ng isang babae na nangbiktima ng 10 katao simula high school pa lang.
Malamang. Hindi naman ito issue lang ng LGBT. Bakit yan yung tanong mo? Masyado kang compartmentalized magisip. Pare pareho naman tayong tao. Lahat hindi dapat ma biktima. Period. Ginagawa mo pang ibang issue yun issue.
you dont see the point? madaming biktima si ate girl.. since bata pa daw ginagawa na niya ito. to the point na may mga explicit photos and videos exchanges na nangayayari. ikaw sige kala mo bf mo tapos ibang tao pala pinapadalhan mo ng mga ganun? wouldnt u be enraged?
They don't really get the point of the thread. Niloko siya, pinagtulungan siyang lokohin ng ibat ibang tao, at ang ending ginawa lahat yun ni Sam kasi may galit siya sa LGBTQ mula pgkabata. Isa siyang bully!!
Ang haba nun ah. Dafuk. Kaya dapat pag ganyan meet in person agad. Di dapat pinapatagal or pinapahaba ng ilang buwan ang incessant chatting. Naalala ko tuloy yung sa MTV - Catfish the tv show.
Ang haba din ng ginugol ni guy just to "catfish" Jzan (how do you pronounce this mga bes?). He obviously has a problem. As for Jzan, I'll refrain from victim blaming. Now you know better sister - at least I hope.
I don't take side of Sam Morales but this should have been settled privately. The victim has discreetly ENCOURAGED the public to mass bully that Sam Morales. What will happen to Sam now? She will be hated and something bad might happen to her because of the bullying on social media.
Wow! Si Sam pa talaga ang inisip mo? How about ang sampung biktima nya? Or maybe more na di pa natin alam? You don’t wanna think what happened to them? So sila ok lang na mabiktima? Kawawa nga si Sam ano? 1 predator vs 10 or more victims. Yes, let’s think about what will happen to Sam.
She did it first. Sam emotionally traumatized not just Jzan but a dozen of women. Those women who just wants to be loved and to love. She and her gang manipulated photos and events to make the relationship looks real.
Not to victim blame but Jzan had a choice. She has been played with by the same person more than once but she still chose to believe it. Hindi na siya victim after the first time. Nagpaka tanga na siya. And as for Sam at yung cheap niyang accomplice, they are both psychopaths and they need professional help and should also be civilly charged.
Jzan naging marupok.Pero nga naman kasi nakikita sa video call yung lalaki kaya hindi natin masabing fake at first.I agree that Sam is sick in the head.Nakakatakot siyang tao.Nabasa ko din mga kwento nung mga iba pang victims.Pareparehas storya ng guy,kesyo namatayan kaya hindi nagpapakita.Lumayas sa kanila,etc.Magpagamot dapat si Sam
6:36 yung guy na ginamit ni Sam pinagbantaan niya na aalisan ng trabaho. Siyempre mahirap din makakuha ng bookings kaya kahit mali na sumakay lang siya. Still wrong pero di siya psychopath (yung Bilko guy)
What do you expect? People have become more gullible becaus of social media. Di na sila mag re-research to verify and know all the angles of a story. Maling-mali si Sam sa ginawa nya. Hello? Nakaka bother kasi ilang beses nannya ‘to ginawa to different people since she was a teenager. Pero si Jzan pa victim. Hwag kasi natin pilitin ang mga bagay. Pinilit nya kasi eh kahit ang toxic at ang dami ng red flags, pabalik-balik pa din sya. Pero at least nabisto nya. I just don’t like a trial by publicity sa socmed kasi parang it doesn’t make us different from the person we’re publicly condemning. Ang trash din natin pag ganon. Para tayong pharisees. Ang bilis natin mag cast stones sa iba as if naman ang pe-perfect natin.
8:25 wala naman pumipigil doon sa Sam na sumagot sa mga accusations sa kanya hindi ba? E bakit hindi niya gawin at ideny? Maglabas din siya ng resibo. Ipagtanggol niya sarili niya bakit hindi niya magawa?
Whether gay, straight or trans, nobody deserves to be catfished. The jerk, out of boredom, catfished her because that is how small he thinks of her. That is the point. That is how flawed the jerk’s character is. Yes, may pandemic na nangyayari pero it doesn’t mean that we should allow people to get away with their malicious activities 🤷🏻♂️
U do know that with her influence she can manipulate other people pa? This has to stop. Di kawalan. There are a lot of talented people out there na hindi psycho
If she can play with emotions of several people, I’m sure she is a good liar, manipulator, and can be a fraud at work. Kahit personal or professional life, kelangn ng trust and respect. If I’m Sam Morales’ employer, matatakot ako ihire or iretain sya and laging may doubt na when dealing with her. Buti na lang Jzan looks like a strong person naman pero what if may problema sa mental health? What if di kayanin and mag end up sa (God forbid) suicide?
maraming talented tulad niya minus the disturbing behavior. before Jzan, meron na siyang nabiktima, Nagsorry siya dun pero nagmove to another target!? trip nya talaga yun
What about the victims? Alam mo ba kung anong effects nun sa kanila? Naging maayos kaya ang future nila dahil sa trauma? Coz because may talent, give her a chance? Andami din criminal na very talented, so let’s give them a chance? A chance to prey on more victims? Oo nga kasi talented naman sila di ba? 🙄 FYI, mas madaming talented na di toxic! Di sya kawalan!
1240 Sure ka attorney? Ilang beses nyang inulit na marupok sya. She knew she was being played pero go pa rin. Even yung nangyari sabi nya, para pang last na. It wasn’t rape.
I just finished reading the whole thing. And basing from her account of the incidents, Jzan had a choice to end things first time pa lang na niloko na siya. I mean, how could she trust someone over and over again na nakilala lang niya and nakausap through social apps? She went out of her way to contact the person again, hence binigyan niya pa lalo ng rason for that sick person to fool her hanggang sa umabot na sa point na kailangang gamitin yung Bilko para mapagbigyan yung closure na hinihingi niya? She invested feelings to someone online, someone she never had any physical contact. Umabot sa point na may nangyari na sa kanila nong lalaki because she insisted for them to meet up. She willingly let those people enter her life. She had a choice. No one deserved something like that but still, she had a choice.
Nabasa ko yung kwento ng iba pang victims na lumutang.Magaling magtagpi tagpi ng storya si Sam.Kaya magkaiba yung reaction nung guy pag nagkita sila dahil yung nagtetext ng sweet ay yung sam.
11:52, 10:09 must have only flown with a certain airline all their lives kaya hindi pa napunta sa T4. are you insinuating we're all hicks here who live in swamps to make you comment that?
Andaming instances ng panloloko. FIRST- hindi nagpakita yung guy sa airport in Cebu. Blocked na siya in all messaging apps and yet tinuloy pa din niyang maipag-usap dun sa Sam. Nagkaroon sila ng communication uli and she willingly chatted with the guy. SECOND- She went out of her way to go to Manila para mameet na yung kachat niya and nagpakita naman pero it didn't went the way she expected it. The guy ended whatever they had just like that (and magkachat lang sila the whole time ha). Dun pa lang sana natauhan na siya eh but no, according to her marupok siya. Tinuloy pa din niya and even begged sam to contact the guy again for closure. FINALLY- nagkita na din sila, nagdate, picture taking, and pinapasok din niya sa hotel. Humingi siya ng kiss pero ayaw nong guy. Pinilit pa din niya yung guy hanggang sa may nangyari na sa kanila. Ang ending, umamin na yung lalaki na set up lang lahat.
Baka umasa sila,nabasa ko kasi ang stories nung iba pang victims.Nagpapakita naman yung guy.Pero cold nga daw.Kasi bale hindi yan ang kausap nung tao sa viber or sa tinder,ibang tao.Magaling sila mambudol
What janine probably meant, hustisya sa mga nangyayari sa pilipinas kasi nga kasabay nitong issue na ito yung apparent non-action ng gov’t sa mga pangyayari lately.
So victim blaming agad na sinasabihan mo na meron ding weakness ung nagkwekwento. Hindi victim blaming na at fault din si girl kasi niloko na sya ng ilang beses umabot pa sa point na nagmeet sila. While she didnt deserve any of that to happen to her, it certainly provoked the situation when she chose to go to sam and her accomplice again and again.
Siya na nga biktima, siya pang nasa mali? Ok ka lang girl?? It was MANIPULATION. If you read their convos youd be surprised kung gaano ka guilty yang gag*ng sam na yan
Humingi ng closure eh magkachat lang kayo online for four months?! Kaloka. Blinock na’t lahat, hindi na sinipot una pa lang tas binastos ka pa nong nagkita na kayo. Ginusto mo yan eh di ba?
Trending ito dahil may kinawawa na namang transwoman? Inapi nanaman ang isang transwoman. Alam ko masama talaga ang nanloloko pero sino bang hindi naloloko at nasasaktan? Common na ngyayre un! Ung iba mas grabe pa.
6.04 Of course it is not ok. Pero very common ito in the entire world, so anong gagawin mo? Idaan mo sa socmed ang lahat? Paano kung ordinary person lang 'yong nanloko sa'yo at walang reputation na iniingatan? Anong gagawin mo? You can't control everything, what you can only control is yourself. - not 1.18
Buti nga diyan kay sam nacall out na ng mga brands niya for being transphobic! Say goodbye to your career girl. Nobody needs a manipulative b*tch in this industry kadiri
Woman scorned ang drama ni jzan. Girl nakuha mo simpatya ng netizens. I wonder if sinabi sayo ni guy na mahal ka na niya after what happened, would it be a different story?
Eh ang tanong sa kanya, "masaya ka na?" Seems like the guy is being blackmailed by Sam kaya wala siya magawa din no? Kasi kiss ayaw pero they did it. What made him change his mind... But yeah jerk pa din. Haha.
Catfishing is bad and nobody deserves it but the lesson this scenario gives is huwag iasa sa iba ang kagustuhan mong huwag masaktan. It's our feelings, hence, it's our responsibility to do our part.
Sam has some mental issues, that's for sure. Pero may this also be a lessom for everyone, LGBT or straight, please be careful around online relationships. Wag magtrust agad-agad. Use your head and guard your heart.
No hate for the LGBT community, but this isn't the first time someone got "catfished". -______-
ReplyDeleteOh tapos? So nothing ganun nalang? Sam manipulated her and others just because she was bullied as child. Tama lang yung ginawa niya and the other victims para hindi na dumami yung victims niya.
DeleteSo anong point mo? Na normal lang yang kasamaang yan? Obviously, hindi sya ang una. Pero can you please stop comparing? Hindi porket nangyari na dati, eh kasasanayan nalang natin.
DeleteYes, and marami pang susunod if topics like this will not be discussed in the open. Wag mong idownplay ung pangyayari dahil lang sa hindi ito unique case. The fact that catfishing, lalo na to this extent, is not unique, ay nakakatakot. This topic is ripe for discussion and people should be aware, lalo na ug ganito na targeted sa isang demographics because of hate, this Sam Morales can escalate her psychotic modus if pababayaan lang.
DeleteTrue. Dami ko na kilala na na catfished. Hindi na bago to. 2020 na, wag na idaan sa socmed
DeleteYes tama ka. Marami nang nacatfish. Pero iilan lang sa kanila may lakas ng loob lumabas at magsalita. Kaya mas lalo lumalakas loob ng mga bully. Kala kasi nila sa lahat ng oras makakalusot sila sa mga ginagawa nila
Deletehindi po kase normal yung reason niya, she have a total of 10 victims ever since na high school siya and baka madagdagan pa nga yan. hindi lang to about sa nangyari sa trans, may sakit na ata yang sam na yan siya na nga nagsabi "addiction" niya na.
DeleteSo?e ano kung its not the first?does it make it right?wala sa tamang pag iisip ang gagawa nyan..lakas ng trip to manipulate someone's feelings and pagiisip..walang tama sa ginawa nyang sam kaya wag nyo ng kampihan and itolerate..gano katotoo yung nabully sya ng gays for her to do this..this sam has some insecurities and self issues..something na hindi makalabas..deal with your own issues sam, see a doctor wag kang mangdamay ng walang malay na tao
DeleteWell, guys! Ito na lang tandaan natin: HINDI TAYO MALOLOKO KUNG HINDI TAYO MAGPAPALOKO! Marupok kasi si ate gurl jzan. Siya nagpush, kung babasahin niyo ang buong kuwento. But well, guess iba iba naman ang tao. Minahal na niya yung guy, pero worse, niloloko lang pala siya. Nakuha naman niya ang simpatya ng buong twitter world. So good for Jzan. Nakabawi na siya.
DeleteHoy @3:07 manipulation na po ang nangyari at ang daming naging biktima.
DeleteI am appalled for Sam. Grabe.
DeleteAminado ako when I was a kid and learned about mIRC and yahoo groups, I also played someone. In short, I catfished people online. Siguro I was 10 yo at that time. Nakakaamaze lang to be someone you’re not (bata pa naman ako nun). You get to be someone who’s going to make someone fall in love with you. May thrill siya sakin nung bata ako.
In college, I was catfished by someone. Hahahaha karma. Iniyakan ko siya and by that time ang lupit na ng editing skills nung 2009. Siguro I invested my 3 months? Naiyak na lang din ako kasi I thought he is real. I got over it naman but then I learned that no one should ever play with someone’s feelings.
When I read the thread and all of Sam’s victims, there’s a similarity for all eh. Most of the victims wanted to be loved by someone who won’t judge them. Which makes it harder to accept na na catfish ka nga.
Lesson learned: don’t look for love online. Maliit lang ang ratio ng lovers online na successful. I just shared my insights about this. And I am sorry for that 1 person I catfished before and for the person who catfished me? Hahahahahahaha whoever you are, sana nagmature ka na din.
Victim blaming. What a sad life😔
DeleteYun na nga eh. This isnt the first time. Ilang panloloko ba dapat makuha ng mga kaibigan nating lgbt? WALA. Tayong straight, di rin nati deserve yun
DeleteMASAMA MANLOKO
5:50 - NO. DAPAT WALANG MANLOLOKO. IYAN ANG TAMA.
DeleteQUIT VICTIM BLAMING, PLEASE! IT'S 2020.
Hindi ako makapaniwala sa ibang comments dito na sisisihin pa yung victim/s. Isa ako sa mga tao na ayaw yung pagiging OA ng LGBT minsan. But this one is different. The lie was DELIBERATE. May effort talaga na manloko. Nag hire pa ng accomplice. Target din talaga. Anong mararamdaman niyo pag may mag target sa inyo ng ganyan. Wala bang konting compassion? I'm a girl pero I can't imagine how hard it is for our LGBT friends to find true love. Kaya they are prone to catfishing or being taken advantage of. They're all just humans like us who also want someone to love & be loved. It sounds cheesy but that's how it is.
DeleteVictim blaming ka na naman. So yung mga nagpost sa socmed dahil binastos, pinatay, ninakawan eh hindi na kailangan ipost kc dati naman ng nangyayari?
DeleteSo? Bawal na ba i-call out?
DeleteIto ung nag trending kagabi. Another person who was victim of trial by publicity. Sana formal charges ginawa hindi thru socmed... Tayong mga taga basa eh hindi pa rin natin alam ang totoong story.
ReplyDeleteMadami naman na naglabasan ibang victim.
DeleteBetter na din sa socmed para madami makaalam at di na maulit pa.
Oo nga no! Now that I think about it, sabi nung trans sa posts niya may mga na-delete na raw siya kasi sobrang sakit daw. Baka yung mga na-delete niya might mean something.
DeleteMas okay na nga na sa social media muna kasi nagsilabasan pa yung ibang victims.
DeleteOo nga. Di lang pala si Jzan nabiktima. Wlang kahit na anong rason ang pwdeng magmanipulate ng feelings ng iba.
DeleteParang wala namang batas against catfishing?please correct me if Im wrong. And why not trial by publicity, matindi ung ginawa nila sa tao so there is the consenquence. People deserve to know of this modus operandi para hndi na maulit sa iba, since gawain nga nila to.
DeleteEh di sana kagabi pa lumabas at nagsalita si sam para ikwento naman side nya. Pero waley. Tahimik kampo nya. Alam na this.
Delete3:09 Anong kaso halimbawang kakasuhan nya? Catfish ba or milkfish? I know this is just one side of the story. And Sam has all the time to rebut now. Maglabas din sya ng resibo.
DeleteThe world is getting worst... may Virus n & every thing yet we never seek God
ReplyDeletePuro “me, me, me” pa din mga tao.
Deleteparang ang OA na masyado
ReplyDeleteSame sentiments. Blown out of proportion
DeleteThe trans learned her lesson the hard way.. at first p lng ngduda na xa bat nya p tinuloy? Also realtalk,pg may hitsura tlga nakakalimutan mag isip noh.. wga kasi puro damdamin..dpat utak din..
DeleteSa sobrang bored binasa ko talaga ng buo yung thread..
ReplyDelete@ 3:34 lol
DeleteMe too binasa ko ng bongga sa twitter
DeleteNakakabore nga kaya ko rin binasa. Nagsayang lamg ako ng oras. Bakla ako pero girl wala akong simpatiya sa kanya. Halatang ginusto naman niya. Siya yung habol ng habol. Innocent daw. Wow! Pasalamat na lamg siya nakatikim siya.
DeleteHahaha ako din. Binasa ko talaga lahat kasi bored na bored na ko sa quarantine natin hehe
Delete935 korek
Delete9:35 same sentiments. i mean? she knew what she was signing up for and had all the time and instances to just get away from it all pero tigas din ang ulo eh. that's probably all on her. alam na alam nyang di sya sineseryoso eh. pinipilit pa nya. ayan.
Delete9:35, agree. Akala ko nga titigil na sya dun sa unang punta nya ng MNL.
Delete9:35, ay wow grabe ka! Victim blaming! At kelangan pa talaga magpasalamat ang biktima kasi nakatikim? You’re disgusting! Isa ka sa mga rason kung bakit di nirerespeto ang lgbtq+ kasi ikaw mismo walang respeto sa kapwa mo!
DeleteMamarunong naman si Janine. Daming problema ng pilipinas , uunahin pa ba tong mga keme na ganito.
ReplyDeleteHuwag kang mag-alala. Isa si Janine sa aware sa problema ng Pilipinas.
Delete@4:04 at si janine ba dapat gumawa ng solusyon ng problema ng Pinas?
DeleteYun lang sinabi nagmarunong na?
DeleteMali yung ginawa ni Sam Morales pero itong biktima na ito ilang beses na siya niloko pero pinupush niya pa rin sarili niya.
ReplyDeleteVictim blaming spotted. So ganun na lang? Kasalanan din niya kasi may nanloloko sa kanya?
DeleteExactly kaya di rin aq naaawa, so i dont see him as a victim of catfishing when in the end nakinabang din siya susme!
Deletetrue, marupok, at im sorry, desperada siya. imagine from Cebu to manila, keri lang? at nag-aaral pa siya.
DeleteTruelagen ghorl! Puro marupok, parang ginawa ni ate na lisensiya ang pagiging marupok para maging tanga. Guwapo naman kasi yung guy, kung pangit ba yan hahabul habulin niya?
DeleteAy oo nga. Niloko na nga sya, tumuloy pa rin sya. Kaya yan, niloko pa ulit sya
DeleteAnd with consent yung act nung poser, so why are other people on Twitter pleading r***? Weird. Doesn't matter if after the act she regretted it, hindi pa din yung criminal offense, she consented it, even said, pa-last na daw. Sheesh.
DeleteI agree 4:07. May kasabihan Tayo : Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me, twice shame on me.
DeleteAgree. Push pa ng push si ate mo gurl kahit na ang dami na red flags. Enabler na nga sya eh, di na sya victim. Blatantly, niloloko na sya, go pa din si ate, habol galore pa din. Realistic yung opinion ni alex, idealistic yung opinion ni bela.
DeleteBased on personal experience yata yung kay Bela. There were a lot of emotions inherent in her tweets.
DeleteDami kasi nagpauto ayan tuloy. Hindi porket kinilig ka sa chat eh totohanan na yan. Gamitin din ang utak at wag agad magtitiwala. Walang manloloko kung walang nagpaloko.
ReplyDeleteSis, di natin maiintindihan yung nararamdaman nila kasi considered minority sila. Tayo na mga straight, madali sa atin to seek and find love pero sa kanila.. di ganun kadali. Hindi porket naloko eh hahayaan lang natin magtagumpay at magpatuloy ang mga manloloko!
Delete7:29 daming time
Delete7:29, exactly!
Delete12:50, madami ngang time pero mema ka lang. Try to use your precious time to educate yourself and empathize with others especially the minority!
Kakaloka so ang ugat pala ay yung naloko? Twisted mind. What kind of heart do you have?
DeleteIts wrong mangloko pero ang daming ibang pagtuunan ng oras.
ReplyDeleteExactly
DeleteI agree ang daming mas importanteng bagay na dapat magtuunan. Although I don’t condone Sam’s evil deeds. So disturbing. Pero I also don’t condone the trans’ actions. Mas maigi na nag file na lang sya ng charges instead na mag mala The Buzz expose sa socmed. Isa pa hindi sya aabot sa ganyang sakit kung di sya pabalik-balik sa lalaki (Sam). Umpisa pa lang ang toxic na ng relationship nila.
Delete8:19 ayan na naman sa mga kasuhan at file charges na yan. Bago magsalita ng ganyan siguraduhing may experience ka dapat sa court system ng Pilipinas, sigurado akong hindi mo alam kung gaano kahirap, katagal at kagastos magfile ng kaso dito. File pa lang yan. Kung kailan magkakaroon ng hearning matagalan pa yan.
DeleteIf babae or lalaki ang na catfish ganyan rin kaya magwawala ang twitter world?
ReplyDeleteThis is not about the gender, meron ding straight na babae na nabiktima ni Sam. Hindi to about sa trans na catfish, about to sa pangcacatfish ng isang babae na nangbiktima ng 10 katao simula high school pa lang.
Deletemy point too. parang masyadong pinag-aaksayahan ng panahon. masyado lang kasing marupok. ganoon yun.
DeleteMalamang. Hindi naman ito issue lang ng LGBT. Bakit yan yung tanong mo? Masyado kang compartmentalized magisip. Pare pareho naman tayong tao. Lahat hindi dapat ma biktima. Period. Ginagawa mo pang ibang issue yun issue.
Delete6:06 daming na catfish na post rin sa twitter pero di ganyan ka hype
DeleteDami starlet nakikisawsaw. Matatanda na yang mga yan. Let them settle this issue on their own. Wag ng gawing national issue to because it’s so petty.
ReplyDeleteyou dont see the point? madaming biktima si ate girl.. since bata pa daw ginagawa na niya ito. to the point na may mga explicit photos and videos exchanges na nangayayari. ikaw sige kala mo bf mo tapos ibang tao pala pinapadalhan mo ng mga ganun? wouldnt u be enraged?
ReplyDeleteThey don't really get the point of the thread. Niloko siya, pinagtulungan siyang lokohin ng ibat ibang tao, at ang ending ginawa lahat yun ni Sam kasi may galit siya sa LGBTQ mula pgkabata. Isa siyang bully!!
DeletePasensiya na sana walang mag rereact ng nega but I find this issue medyo malaswa...
ReplyDeleteAnd cheap too.
DeleteAng haba nun ah. Dafuk. Kaya dapat pag ganyan meet in person agad. Di dapat pinapatagal or pinapahaba ng ilang buwan ang incessant chatting. Naalala ko tuloy yung sa MTV - Catfish the tv show.
ReplyDeleteYeah di dapat pinapatagal, kung pede naman mag meet, meet agad
DeleteAng haba din ng ginugol ni guy just to "catfish" Jzan (how do you pronounce this mga bes?). He obviously has a problem. As for Jzan, I'll refrain from victim blaming. Now you know better sister - at least I hope.
ReplyDeleteI don't take side of Sam Morales but this should have been settled privately. The victim has discreetly ENCOURAGED the public to mass bully that Sam Morales. What will happen to Sam now? She will be hated and something bad might happen to her because of the bullying on social media.
ReplyDeleteBut how about what Sam did to her victims?
DeleteWow! Si Sam pa talaga ang inisip mo? How about ang sampung biktima nya? Or maybe more na di pa natin alam? You don’t wanna think what happened to them? So sila ok lang na mabiktima? Kawawa nga si Sam ano? 1 predator vs 10 or more victims. Yes, let’s think about what will happen to Sam.
DeleteShe did it first. Sam emotionally traumatized not just Jzan but a dozen of women. Those women who just wants to be loved and to love. She and her gang manipulated photos and events to make the relationship looks real.
Deletewell, @6:32, sana naisip nya yung consequences bago siya gumawa ng kalokohan diba???? mas concern ka pa kay Sam kaysa sa mga na-victimize niya e.
DeleteNot to victim blame but Jzan had a choice. She has been played with by the same person more than once but she still chose to believe it. Hindi na siya victim after the first time. Nagpaka tanga na siya. And as for Sam at yung cheap niyang accomplice, they are both psychopaths and they need professional help and should also be civilly charged.
ReplyDeleteJzan naging marupok.Pero nga naman kasi nakikita sa video call yung lalaki kaya hindi natin masabing fake at first.I agree that Sam is sick in the head.Nakakatakot siyang tao.Nabasa ko din mga kwento nung mga iba pang victims.Pareparehas storya ng guy,kesyo namatayan kaya hindi nagpapakita.Lumayas sa kanila,etc.Magpagamot dapat si Sam
Delete6:36 yung guy na ginamit ni Sam pinagbantaan niya na aalisan ng trabaho. Siyempre mahirap din makakuha ng bookings kaya kahit mali na sumakay lang siya. Still wrong pero di siya psychopath (yung Bilko guy)
DeleteNaniwala agad sa one-sided story.
ReplyDeleteKorek
DeleteRomanticized, exaggerated
DeleteWhat do you expect? People have become more gullible becaus of social media. Di na sila mag re-research to verify and know all the angles of a story. Maling-mali si Sam sa ginawa nya. Hello? Nakaka bother kasi ilang beses nannya ‘to ginawa to different people since she was a teenager. Pero si Jzan pa victim. Hwag kasi natin pilitin ang mga bagay. Pinilit nya kasi eh kahit ang toxic at ang dami ng red flags, pabalik-balik pa din sya. Pero at least nabisto nya. I just don’t like a trial by publicity sa socmed kasi parang it doesn’t make us different from the person we’re publicly condemning. Ang trash din natin pag ganon. Para tayong pharisees. Ang bilis natin mag cast stones sa iba as if naman ang pe-perfect natin.
Delete8:25 wala naman pumipigil doon sa Sam na sumagot sa mga accusations sa kanya hindi ba? E bakit hindi niya gawin at ideny? Maglabas din siya ng resibo. Ipagtanggol niya sarili niya bakit hindi niya magawa?
Delete6:11 eh bakit di natin yun antayin tsaka tayo magbigay ng comment.
DeleteSya ba yung host dati sa singing/game show app dati, I forgot the name of the app at iyong host. Addict pa naman ako dun dati.
ReplyDeleteat least ngaun alam ko na ano ibig sabihin ng na catfished chismax pa more
ReplyDeleteWhether gay, straight or trans, nobody deserves to be catfished.
ReplyDeleteThe jerk, out of boredom, catfished her because that is how small he thinks of her.
That is the point. That is how flawed the jerk’s character is.
Yes, may pandemic na nangyayari pero it doesn’t mean that we should allow people to get away with their malicious activities 🤷🏻♂️
Kala mo naman krimen ang nangyari
DeleteShame on you if your fool me once. Shame on me if you fool me twice.
ReplyDelete8:34 Tumpak! "Never make the same mistake twice"
DeleteFooled more than twice lol
DeleteKung may sakit sa pag iisip,magpatingin sa psychiatrist.Wag maglaro ng feelings ng ibang tao.Resolve your own problems.
ReplyDeleteBaka may psychosis,may mga bagay sa fantasy na gusto niyang ipush sa ibang tao.
ReplyDeleteKasi you only live online..real din ang feelings sa online pero try mo sa actual world talaga..
ReplyDeleteMag aral kasi muna bago kerengkeng
ReplyDeleteMali si Sam pero mali din na sisirain natin ang future niya dahil sa issue na ito. She has so much to offer, talented and all. Give her a chance.
ReplyDeleteU do know that with her influence she can manipulate other people pa? This has to stop. Di kawalan. There are a lot of talented people out there na hindi psycho
DeleteIf she can play with emotions of several people, I’m sure she is a good liar, manipulator, and can be a fraud at work. Kahit personal or professional life, kelangn ng trust and respect. If I’m Sam Morales’ employer, matatakot ako ihire or iretain sya and laging may doubt na when dealing with her. Buti na lang Jzan looks like a strong person naman pero what if may problema sa mental health? What if di kayanin and mag end up sa (God forbid) suicide?
Deletemaraming talented tulad niya minus the disturbing behavior. before Jzan, meron na siyang nabiktima, Nagsorry siya dun pero nagmove to another target!? trip nya talaga yun
DeleteWhat about the victims? Alam mo ba kung anong effects nun sa kanila? Naging maayos kaya ang future nila dahil sa trauma? Coz because may talent, give her a chance? Andami din criminal na very talented, so let’s give them a chance? A chance to prey on more victims? Oo nga kasi talented naman sila di ba? 🙄 FYI, mas madaming talented na di toxic! Di sya kawalan!
DeleteDi na uubra ang marupok kasi ako dahil year 2020 na po. Walang maloloko if walang mag papaloko.
ReplyDeleteGuys, question. Can you consider what happen as rape?
ReplyDeleteNo because based on her account of events, it is presumed the act was with consent. Unless maprove otherwise
DeleteNo
DeleteNo, jzan allowed it
DeleteYes. Her "consent" was obtained through fraud and lies. No consent = rape.
DeleteMga sis, attorney here. Yes, it's rape. Nasa batas natin yan. Pag yung consent eh based on fraud, that's rape.
DeleteSa wakas. The right word is DESPERADA. as simple as that
Delete1240 Sure ka attorney? Ilang beses nyang inulit na marupok sya. She knew she was being played pero go pa rin. Even yung nangyari sabi nya, para pang last na. It wasn’t rape.
DeleteI just finished reading the whole thing. And basing from her account of the incidents, Jzan had a choice to end things first time pa lang na niloko na siya. I mean, how could she trust someone over and over again na nakilala lang niya and nakausap through social apps? She went out of her way to contact the person again, hence binigyan niya pa lalo ng rason for that sick person to fool her hanggang sa umabot na sa point na kailangang gamitin yung Bilko para mapagbigyan yung closure na hinihingi niya? She invested feelings to someone online, someone she never had any physical contact. Umabot sa point na may nangyari na sa kanila nong lalaki because she insisted for them to meet up. She willingly let those people enter her life. She had a choice. No one deserved something like that but still, she had a choice.
ReplyDeleteTrue! She was too desperate
DeleteShe had lapses yes but why focus on Jzan? Why not on the predator???
DeleteNagmahal ka na ba ng totoo? Sa tingin ko hindi pa.
DeleteNabasa ko yung kwento ng iba pang victims na lumutang.Magaling magtagpi tagpi ng storya si Sam.Kaya magkaiba yung reaction nung guy pag nagkita sila dahil yung nagtetext ng sweet ay yung sam.
DeletePatawa ka 1:19. Nagmahal talaga ng totoo?! Nyahaha
DeleteBwahahaha at nagmahal ng totoo @1:19
DeleteAgree 10:07! Yung incident pa lang na iniwan sya sa airport.
Delete2:27 hindi ako magmamahal sa taong na memeet ko lang through social apps.
DeleteMy gosh may T4 pala? Akala ko hanggang 3 lang yun. Di ko pa pala napupuntahan lahat ng naia
ReplyDeleteHow old are you? 12? Lol
DeleteT4 is domestic near cebpac's office
Delete11:52, 10:09 must have only flown with a certain airline all their lives kaya hindi pa napunta sa T4. are you insinuating we're all hicks here who live in swamps to make you comment that?
Delete12.37 thanks for the info. 3.41, tama ka. Yung mga airlines na nasakyan ko never pa maassign sa t4. thank you for defending me.
DeleteAndaming instances ng panloloko. FIRST- hindi nagpakita yung guy sa airport in Cebu. Blocked na siya in all messaging apps and yet tinuloy pa din niyang maipag-usap dun sa Sam. Nagkaroon sila ng communication uli and she willingly chatted with the guy. SECOND- She went out of her way to go to Manila para mameet na yung kachat niya and nagpakita naman pero it didn't went the way she expected it. The guy ended whatever they had just like that (and magkachat lang sila the whole time ha). Dun pa lang sana natauhan na siya eh but no, according to her marupok siya. Tinuloy pa din niya and even begged sam to contact the guy again for closure. FINALLY- nagkita na din sila, nagdate, picture taking, and pinapasok din niya sa hotel. Humingi siya ng kiss pero ayaw nong guy. Pinilit pa din niya yung guy hanggang sa may nangyari na sa kanila. Ang ending, umamin na yung lalaki na set up lang lahat.
ReplyDeleteIm part of the lgbt and i feel for the victim. Ang hindi ko lang magets is... is it possible to have a relationship sa taong hindi mo pa nakikita?
ReplyDeleteBaka umasa sila,nabasa ko kasi ang stories nung iba pang victims.Nagpapakita naman yung guy.Pero cold nga daw.Kasi bale hindi yan ang kausap nung tao sa viber or sa tinder,ibang tao.Magaling sila mambudol
DeleteSawsaw mga starlet
ReplyDeleteSawsaw ka rin nmn dto ah haha
DeleteNatawa ako sa Hustisya para sa Pilipinas! Hahaha Failed lovestory ni girl naging issue ng bansa.
ReplyDeleteDiba haha
DeleteWhat janine probably meant, hustisya sa mga nangyayari sa pilipinas kasi nga kasabay nitong issue na ito yung apparent non-action ng gov’t sa mga pangyayari lately.
DeleteWho is sam morales?
ReplyDeleteKamag anak ni vina at vicky
DeleteKadiri nung mga nangvivictim blaming dito. Ang papanget niyo mga baks kulang sa pagmamahal. Nasan ang reading comprehension niyo?
ReplyDeleteTe mukang ikaw ang walang reading comprehension. Mas kadiri ka. At ikaw lang pangit at kulang sa pagmamahal. Wag ka mandamay.
DeleteWow @12:55 yan lang retort mo? copy paste lol im so hurt haha halatang masyado kang butthurt kasi totoo
Delete12:55, masakit masampal ng katotohanan, ano? Lol!
DeleteIkaw naman kulang sa empathy!
So victim blaming agad na sinasabihan mo na meron ding weakness ung nagkwekwento. Hindi victim blaming na at fault din si girl kasi niloko na sya ng ilang beses umabot pa sa point na nagmeet sila. While she didnt deserve any of that to happen to her, it certainly provoked the situation when she chose to go to sam and her accomplice again and again.
DeleteSiya na nga biktima, siya pang nasa mali? Ok ka lang girl?? It was MANIPULATION. If you read their convos youd be surprised kung gaano ka guilty yang gag*ng sam na yan
Delete6.59 manipulation yes but it depends on the age of the victim.
DeleteHumingi ng closure eh magkachat lang kayo online for four months?! Kaloka. Blinock na’t lahat, hindi na sinipot una pa lang tas binastos ka pa nong nagkita na kayo. Ginusto mo yan eh di ba?
ReplyDeletetama! why push for face to face break up when your entire relationship happened online. hahaha
DeleteWow!!! Nagiging normal na tao yung mga artista na walang magawa din oh1 hahahaha
ReplyDeleteTrending ito dahil may kinawawa na namang transwoman? Inapi nanaman ang isang transwoman. Alam ko masama talaga ang nanloloko pero sino bang hindi naloloko at nasasaktan? Common na ngyayre un! Ung iba mas grabe pa.
ReplyDeletepinapatay pa nga diba.
DeleteOh! So dahil common, ok lang. Mas common naman din ang manakawan. So dapat ok yun di ba?
DeleteLahat ng tao pinagdadaanan yan! Walang maloloko kung walang magpapaloko!
Delete6.04 Of course it is not ok. Pero very common ito in the entire world, so anong gagawin mo? Idaan mo sa socmed ang lahat? Paano kung ordinary person lang 'yong nanloko sa'yo at walang reputation na iniingatan? Anong gagawin mo? You can't control everything, what you can only control is yourself. - not 1.18
DeleteButi nga diyan kay sam nacall out na ng mga brands niya for being transphobic! Say goodbye to your career girl. Nobody needs a manipulative b*tch in this industry kadiri
ReplyDeleteBakit walang comment na ipa-Tulfo na yan? lol. She did not only catfish; seems like she also manipulated Bill. I want to hear Sam's side.
ReplyDeleteWalang tulfo ecq
DeleteDesperada ni girl magkajowa kahit kachat lang online pinatos na.
ReplyDeleteWoman scorned ang drama ni jzan. Girl nakuha mo simpatya ng netizens. I wonder if sinabi sayo ni guy na mahal ka na niya after what happened, would it be a different story?
ReplyDeleteEh ang tanong sa kanya, "masaya ka na?" Seems like the guy is being blackmailed by Sam kaya wala siya magawa din no? Kasi kiss ayaw pero they did it. What made him change his mind... But yeah jerk pa din. Haha.
Delete2.23 Ang pinagtataka ko bakit sinabi ni Bilko na silang dalawa na lang daw ang magusap at pinapablock pa si Sam. I think that means something.
Deletethere is no such thing as victim blaming in this story. hahaha pareho sila mga mali eh!!! utang na loob.
ReplyDeletetruelagen with Vitamin C!
DeleteYup! Nalaman nga niyang may GF pala si Bilko pero ipinagpatuloy pa din.
DeleteMas mahaba pa to sa kdrama na pinapanood ko ah. May mga bagong characters pa na naglalabasan...
ReplyDeleteIlang episode kaya to?
diniscontinue na baks. puro kasi negative reviews. hahaha
DeleteCatfishing is bad and nobody deserves it but the lesson this scenario gives is huwag iasa sa iba ang kagustuhan mong huwag masaktan. It's our feelings, hence, it's our responsibility to do our part.
ReplyDeleteSo ano na gusto mangyari dun sa sam m? Na matangalan na ng trabaho? Masisira ba kumpanya nila dun dahil dito sa failed love story?
ReplyDeletePersonal na problema ito.Labas dapat ang trabaho.
DeleteWhat sam did was wrong. She needs help. As for Jzan, know when it's enough.
ReplyDeleteSam has some mental issues, that's for sure. Pero may this also be a lessom for everyone, LGBT or straight, please be careful around online relationships. Wag magtrust agad-agad. Use your head and guard your heart.
ReplyDelete