Minor ba yang Juan Tero na yan at nauuto pa? Kailangang ibroadcast pa niya na naloko siya. Is it something to be proud of?! Walang nanloloko. Kung walang nagpapaloko. Wag niya lahat isisi sa nanloko sa kanya ang sinapit niya. It takes two to tango. Pa-victim pa. Eh ang tanda na niyan. Buti kung musmos.
I find Bela so pabida sa ganyang hanash nya. Realtalk yung kay Alex oy. Wag kasi puro feelings Bela, gamitin din sometimes ang utak bsta sa mga kachat or kaFling or pg sa pag ibig na. Bsta ang OA mo na lately dai.
Ang hindi ma gets ni bella ung point ni alex na sa umpisa pa lang dapat cautious kana sa mga ka chat or ka text mopag shady na at ayaw magpakita wit na. For your own protection yun lalo sa dami ng mapagsamatala na tao sa panahon ngayon. Ang layo na agad ng narating ng pinaglalaban ni bella siguro kasi marupok sya kaya inlove na sya agad within a month sa taong di nya naman nakikita.
true! nagmamatalino kase e, may pa factual factual study pa nalalaman e common sense lng nmn na mag isip isip ka na pag hndi pa nagpapakita yan kausap mo after a month. kalurks
Nah, that wasn't being brave. Alam ni ate girl na makukuha niya simpatya ng tao sa twitter by telling her side of the story. She wanted revenge kasi nasaktan siya dahil yung inaakala niyang lovestory niya eh napurnada pa at kasinungalingan lang pala. She made herself believe it. Alam niya yung dangers of meeting someone online. Ilang beses na siyang niloko pero nirason niya yung pagiging marupok niya. She knows she can't file for rape so what better way to exact revenge is thru social media.
Ay! Sumasagot si aleng bela, e ang tweet lang naman ni alex straight to the face! Lol bat ang mga tao may na ffraud pa rin sa online online nakakaloka 😂
Okay lang yan 11:11, ibg sabhn d ka masyadong babad online. Catfish is kapag nagpapanggap ung kachat mo na ibang tao, using a different person's info or profile.
Why do people always say it’s victim blaming whenever the person is called out on what she could have done better? Hindi ba Pwede na sinasabihan Lang na next time be more analytic? Even si victim sya mismo sinasabi nya ang rupok nya. Kahit pag binasa yung story, May lapses din talaga si ate girl. Not saying Walang mali si psycho sam pero May lapses din si ate girl
Sa totoo lang, sa mga nakikita kong posts na nagvi-victim blame, biglang kambyo sila when they are being called out. Sabay sasabihing "I mean well".🙄 While yes, may mga tao who are very, very careful pagdating sa ganyang sitwasyon...di ibig sabihin nun you blame the others who didn't do the same. Kanya-kanyang sitwasyon, kanya-kanyang pinagdaanan, kanya-kanyang way of coping. Not because you or some can do it does it mean na ifo-force mo yun sa iba. Bibigyan mo sila ng benefit of the doubt kasi nga, magkakaiba tayo. We're not walking in the same shoes.
And that’s the reason why she’s warning others na if ever they experience the same scenario, mag-iingat na. No factual study needed. Just pure common sense.
Wala naman masama sa reminder ni Alex. Totoo naman, shady ang isang tao kung nagpapakita ng interest and yet, wouldn’t show his/ her manlang Kahit sa video chat. Di ba natural reaction ng tao na pag May gusto or crush Tapos kinakausap din sya ng gusto nya, magtatry na makipag- kita or usap manlang. Given the technology Ngayon.
Wala din naman study na mali yung sinasabi ni Alex na if one month e Hindi nagpapakita, Hindi pa din suspicious yung tao. It’s just a reminder to be extra careful at wag agad magpapaniwala sa kung Ano Lang basta ang Sabihin. Sometimes toxic din yung mga tao na giving too much consolation sa victim. Not to victim blame pero tell the person pa din what s/he needs to hear Hindi yung puro consolation Lang.
I agree with Bela's first reply: "This isn't always the case, Alex."
Di ka pwedeng mag-generalize na, "eh kasi dapat ganito ganyan". Iba-iba ang tao eh. May kanya-kanya tayong way ng pag-cope sa mga sitwasyon, ng pag-deal sa love and affection mula sa ibang tao, etc. The danger with Alex's statement is, napakadaling iintrepret into, "oo nga, eto naman kasing si Jzan blah blah..." Di mo naman pwedeng iexplain yan sa bawat isang tao sa Twitter na makakabasa kung anong ibig sabihin ng post na 'yan. Alex should be more careful sa mga ganyang statement. You don't simply put a period to that. Sabi nga ni Bela, that isn't always the case.
Masama si Sam, period. She vouched for Bilko. Pinaniwala nya si Jzan na friend nya si Bilko. That's proof number 1. Pinag-video call nya yung Bilko. That's proof number 2. Kinuha nya ang tiwala ni Jzan. Sya yung paulit-ulit na katext at kunwari tumutulong pag may tampuham, etc. That's proof number 3.
Bella wanted to sound really intellectual by replying to alex's jolog tweet in the way she did. I actually felt alex's concern, but i only felt that bella wanted to sound pabida and pabibo
Agree 2:12. Simpleng reminder lang si Alex. Tong si Bela kahit hndi naman kontra ung opinion nola ni Alex dun pa talaga sya sumingit sa post, si alex pa nagmukhang masama. Hay naku Bela.
I stand with alex on this one. May point siya. IMO lang naman. Sa panahon ngayon at technology, imposible yung hindi nakakausap at nakikita online ng live.
Panay dada lang talaga si Alex. Di nya nagegets yung point. That first tweet of hers could mean a totally different thing to a lot of people. Jusko girl!
Ok, it's a warning from Alex. Pero di nya kasi nakikita yung point ni Bela.
Influencer sya. Ang mga tao napakaiksi ng attention span. Kung nabasa ng followers nya yung first tweet, may possibility na i-retweet sya ng iba with the interpretation na its the victim's fault na nakaisang buwan na pero di pa nakipaghiwalay. That is not what Alex meant, as she says. But people with short attention span and those who simply read a single tweet without looking at the whole conversation, can easily interpret it as victim blaming. Like, retweet, screen shot, share, etc etc. The next thing we know si Jzan na ang binabash, which shouldn't be the case.
You know what a bored, shallow person would think pag nabasa nya yung tweet ni Alex? Na kasalanan ni Jzan ang nangyari sa kanya. That's the danger with that tweet. And Alex Gonzaga doesn't get it. Iba yung ibig sabihin ni Alex, pero napakadaling mamisinterpret nung tweet.
Exactly! It's not about what Alex meant with that tweet. It's about how it COULD BE interpreted by other followers as victim blaming. That's one danger. Mas malala kapag biglang ang narrative eh si Jzan na ang binabash at sinisisi. Influencer si Alex. She should know na may weight ang mga pinopost nya sa followers nya.
Kumakalat na nga. Some are insinuating pa nga na tang@ na lang ang tutuloy sa ganyang relationship. I find it unfair. Nag-generalize na agad. May kanya-kanyang tayong ways of dealing with affection, love, trust, relationships. We simply don't call them tang@. Give them the benefit of the doubt kasi di mo rin alam ang history nila at ang current situation. Kaya nga influencers like Alex should be careful with her words. Di nya alam kung anong pwedeng interpretation nun sa ibang tao. And there's no way na maipaliwanag nya sa bawat isa ang ibig nyang sabihin.
I also catfished someone nung text pa lang ang uso. I was a dumb teenager back then who didn’t know any better. Hanggang ngayon binabagabag pa din ako ng konsensya ko. There’s no excuse for my actions. It was plain stupid and selfish and I regret putting that person through all that sh*t. I feel sorry everyday for what I did. Maling mali talaga. I just hope Jzan gets out of this stronger and wiser.
Alex's tweet was straight to the point and was said as a reminder, a warning sign para sa mga pwedeng maapektuhan. Bela is paki alamera. Bela wanted to sound intellectual and know-all dun sa simpleng straight to the point reminder lang naman ni alex.
Jzan got out of the relationship many times, didn't she? But this Sam pretending to be the bf kept on coming back. Jzan trusted her since nakakausap nya si Sam. MAY TOTOONG TAO TO PROVE NA TOTOO ANG BF NYA. SHE HAD A PROOF. Ganun kasama si Sam. Nakalabas na sa relasyon si Jzan pero tuluy-tuloy lang sya sa pagsisinungaling.
Hence, this (Alex's tweet) isn't supposed to be the message that we are sending. What Sam did is pure evil and nobody should do that to anyone, transwoman o hindi. Wag nating sabihin sa mga babae na wag magsuot ng maiksing damit para di bastusin. Ang sabihin natin, di dapat nambabastos.
Isa ka pa. Alex tweet is just a reminder. Be wary of Who you are dealing with. Generic reminder. We don't see any finger pointing. Bela appears to have taken it personally. Does the shoe fit?
Yung point ni Alex is "common sense"! but I get Bela's point too .. na pre-conditioned nya na si Jzan kase kaya her common sense went out the door so to speak. I therefore conclude na si Alex and Bela ata ang di nagkaintindihan.
jzan knew she was walking into a trap. for so many times there were instances that have literally saved her from going so far. her friends were already against it, her own instincts have told her to get away and move on already, plans got hurdled, second guessing came and honestly she knew she was plagued by it but love (pseudolove i call it) intervened. logic vanished and feelings got prioritized.she was willing to believe the lies as long as she satisfied the haste in her heart to be with the guy. got blinded by her need to be with someone, got hasty with it and fell right through the trap. nag vivictim blaming ba ako? no. i condemn the people who did this. it's downright stupid and ridiculous of them. they're lower than trash. pero nandun na eh. alam na ni Jzan eh. kumbaga tinulungan na sya ng guardian angels (yes i believe in guardian angels) nya na paulit ulit na syang sinasave from those trash na hindi na sya ma associate with them pero nag take sya ng risk eh. we can only move on and pray for healing. justice once and for all. karma to haunt them. (referring to the trash in this saga)
Not just that. They broke up. Nawalan na ng communication pala. But then again Jzan emailed and texted the guy parin asking for explanations and all. She even called yung Sam to ask for a help na makausap that guy. Hello habol din siya ng habol. She even tweeted na ‘’last na’’ na parang give it all na kasi last na talaga yun na yon. At first balak naman na talaga niya to gain sympathy, she even mentioned na magpopost siya ng mahabang thread. Uhaw na uhaw. Anyway not victim blaming but pareho naman silang mali. Naghanap lang siya ng kakampi and sympthy sa LGBTQ family niya.
You have to be in the victim's shoes to understand this. There really are people who are soooo good with manipulation and emotional guilt trip. Kaya nga yung iba sinisisi pa ang sarili. Mahirap maging victim ng emotional abuse. Tayong nasa labas, we see the big picture. Andaling sabihing dapat ganito, ganyan. It's a totally different situation when you're part of the relationship. So sana lawakan natin ang pag-unawa. We don't simply call them marupok or aanga-anga. Emotional abuse and manipulation is no joke. So instead, sabihin nating DO NOT DO THIS TO ANYONE BEC NOBODY DESERVES TO BE FOOLED AND HURT.
not everybody is like you na mabait ang perspective . there are really vile people out there. it's just how the world works. "what would good do if evil didn't exist?" she was willing to get into the trap. kakagawan din nya yun. she chose to trust her doubting feelings instead of the logic her survival instincts concurred to. kay ayan. nahulog sa banga.
si SAM MORALES eh sick in the head. who the hell would go that lengths para mag manipula. at mali rin yang Bil ko na yan sa pagpapagamit nya kay SAM. pero sna wag kalimutan na may mali rin si Jzan. Nung iniwan ka sa jolibee dun pa lang dapat d na kayo naging ok after. pero naging ok pa rin. tapos nalaman mo na naglie about his identity, isang sorry ok na naman. You were so desperate for love or for a relationship na dapat mga ganyang asal na pinakita sayo ng tao eh ikaw na mismo pumutol sa relationship/communication mo. Pero nagpauto ka rin eh. walang manloloko kung walang magpapaloko. naloko ka na nga sa identity pero tinanggap mo pa rin. D kasalanan magmahal, kasalanan magpakatanga sa pagmamahal. So you also played a part bakit tumagal yan ng 8mos.
si alex yung perfect example ng shunga pero bilib na bilib sa sarili.. talinong talino sya sa sarili nya.. si bella yung smart pero kalma lang.. yung tipong pag shunga yung kausap sya na lang yung mag give up kausapin.. yung bahala ka kung yan gusto mong paniwalaan.. k. thanks. bye.
Both have valid points but you can tell Bella was offended and wanted to prove Alex wrong. The conversation should’ve ended when Bella tweeted “perfect” and alex’s tweet on how they’re all here to help eachother, but Bella still felt the need to further explain her POV.
Jzan was manipulated. Alam nyo ba big ibig sabihin nun? Stop victim blaming. And under age yung tao. Kahit saan mo tingnan, mali si Sam. It's like raping a minor multiple times. Majority of those instances that the rape happened, walang force because the victim was manipulated by the rapist that what they're doing is ok.
Yung tweet ni Alex na may mga kakilala raw sya who went through the same situation so feeling expert na sya. Um, gurl it's a different case for every person. You mean we'll and that's good. But you should be smart to know that your tweet can be easily taken out of context. As I can see in some comments here and on Twitter, it already is being passed around with the same message - Jzan's fault! Completely ignoring the fact that everyone is at fault here. Jzan, the guy, and ESPECIALLY Sam!
I'm with Alex on this one. Dapat lang na ma-correct ang ginagawa ni Sam Morales, the evil witch. Pero kasi 2020 na. Keep up. Ang dami nang naganyan. Wag nang maging desperate pagdating sa love. Self-actualization first. Puwedeng magkamali pero dapat lang na matuto. Always kailangang matuto at maging ismarte. Oo, victim ka, kawawa ka. Pero mas kawawa ka kung sa simpatya ka lang ng tao mabubuhay at hindi sa lessons na matutunan mo along the way.
Parang di happy si ate bela this past few days daming hanash.. Boring much?
ReplyDeleteAng alam ko pagnaCatfish e panget yung kachat o kameet mo na iba yung pic na nilagay o yung lumang pic na ok pa siya at hindi latest.
DeleteMay sense naman siya at karamihan nasa bahay so oo bored malamang. Maraming time.
DeleteMinor ba yang Juan Tero na yan at nauuto pa? Kailangang ibroadcast pa niya na naloko siya. Is it something to be proud of?! Walang nanloloko. Kung walang nagpapaloko. Wag niya lahat isisi sa nanloko sa kanya ang sinapit niya. It takes two to tango. Pa-victim pa. Eh ang tanda na niyan. Buti kung musmos.
DeleteAng daming nagkakasakit at namamatay. Hindi issue yang issue niya.
DeleteI find Bela so pabida sa ganyang hanash nya. Realtalk yung kay Alex oy. Wag kasi puro feelings Bela, gamitin din sometimes ang utak bsta sa mga kachat or kaFling or pg sa pag ibig na. Bsta ang OA mo na lately dai.
DeleteSakit sa ulo basahin yung english ni Bela. Kung hirap iexpress ang sasabihin tagalugin na lang kasi.
DeleteHindi ko bet si Bela but she raised very valid points. Too bad di magets ni Alex.
ReplyDeleteTrue. Nag-generalize kasi itong si Alex. It's a different case for every person.
DeleteDont worry, hindi din naman nagets ni Bela yung point ni Alex. Parehas naman silang may point.
DeleteMedyo parang tinamaan si Bela. Na sensed ko lang.
DeleteAng hindi ma gets ni bella ung point ni alex na sa umpisa pa lang dapat cautious kana sa mga ka chat or ka text mopag shady na at ayaw magpakita wit na. For your own protection yun lalo sa dami ng mapagsamatala na tao sa panahon ngayon. Ang layo na agad ng narating ng pinaglalaban ni bella siguro kasi marupok sya kaya inlove na sya agad within a month sa taong di nya naman nakikita.
DeleteHindi nagets ni bela point ni alex
Deleteang sinasabi ni alex at the minimum pag 1 month kabahan ka na. niliteral naman ng tita bela mo, ayaw patalo
DeleteTmaa 1:35. Parehas naman silanf may point at magkaina ang point nila. Maisingit lang ni bela ung point nya.
DeleteAttention seeker yan si bela padilla
ReplyDeleteShe successfully got your attention.
DeleteEh ikaw, ano ka ?
DeleteAnong tawag mo kay Alex?!?
Delete1:42 alex tweeted her own thoughts while bela seek attention by quoting her so sino ang attention seeker? Bela.
DeletePapansin much si ate bela Sana nag tweet na Lang din siya NG sarili niyang opinion
ReplyDeletetrue! nagmamatalino kase e, may pa factual factual study pa nalalaman e common sense lng nmn na mag isip isip ka na pag hndi pa nagpapakita yan kausap mo after a month. kalurks
DeleteMarami tuloy sumawsaw lalo na sa friend nung navictim din. He/she basically twitted the story ng isang navictim without her consent.
ReplyDeleteBela on this one.
ReplyDeleteAlex is just lata na mainggay
10:44 may sense din naman ung advice niya ah.
DeleteSince when did this become a battle 10:44. Alex just stated her opinion and Bela clarified that not all the time the victim is at fault.
DeleteSiguro mahina lang ang comprehension mo o sadyang ayaw mo lang kay Alex, kasi may sense naman yung sinabi nya pero sinabihan mo syang lata 10:44
DeleteMay point din sya. The world is cruel. Do we change it for our youth or teach the youth how to deal with its cruelty? Yung huli yung ginawa ni alex.
DeleteNah, that wasn't being brave. Alam ni ate girl na makukuha niya simpatya ng tao sa twitter by telling her side of the story. She wanted revenge kasi nasaktan siya dahil yung inaakala niyang lovestory niya eh napurnada pa at kasinungalingan lang pala. She made herself believe it. Alam niya yung dangers of meeting someone online. Ilang beses na siyang niloko pero nirason niya yung pagiging marupok niya. She knows she can't file for rape so what better way to exact revenge is thru social media.
ReplyDeleteAt least maganda ang naging usapan nila. Open minded and with respect.
ReplyDeletehindi maganda. parang naghahanap lng ng away si bela. nagmamatalino.
DeleteParang na offend si Bela. Tinamaan, naka relate, nagalit. May pinagdadaanan siguro.
DeleteParang ready for battle lang ang peg ni Bela.
DeleteAy! Sumasagot si aleng bela, e ang tweet lang naman ni alex straight to the face! Lol bat ang mga tao may na ffraud pa rin sa online online nakakaloka 😂
ReplyDeleteomg thank you sa straight to the face! BWAHAHAHAHA
DeleteSorry naman. Millennial ako pero Di ako updated sa mga terms. Ano ba yang mauusong word nanaman na Cat fish?
ReplyDeleteDi ko masyadong rinig un so I googled it hehe
DeletePretending as someone, using someone’s picture or identiy
DeleteSa madaling salita, naloko
DeleteOkay lang yan 11:11, ibg sabhn d ka masyadong babad online. Catfish is kapag nagpapanggap ung kachat mo na ibang tao, using a different person's info or profile.
DeleteI smell sarcasm
ReplyDeleteLol true esp the factual study part hahaha
DeleteOkay na sana, may point naman pareho. Sa last part lang, gusto pa ni bela ng factual study LOL.
ReplyDeleteCommon sense na lang, pag 1month ka ng hinaharot pero hindi nagpapakita sayo, may something na un.
Troot!! Kaya Etong si bela laging bigo e, sya din Siguro living in a bubble so perfect ayaw nya umalis
Delete@11:41 nakalimutan mo ung comma baks. Living in a bubble, so perfect, ayaw na nya umalis. Lol
DeleteMay point si alex. Common sense lang lahat yan.
DeleteSi ateng bela simulan mo na ang research para mapublish na yan at magka factual study na gooo..
DeleteBiglang kambyo si Alex. Balak pa yata mag victim blame
ReplyDeleteWala naman masama sa sinabi ni Alex to begin with. Si bela etong parang Napaka- sarcastic ng dating at subtle war mode kung maka- reply.
DeleteWhy do people always say it’s victim blaming whenever the person is called out on what she could have done better? Hindi ba Pwede na sinasabihan Lang na next time be more analytic? Even si victim sya mismo sinasabi nya ang rupok nya. Kahit pag binasa yung story, May lapses din talaga si ate girl. Not saying Walang mali si psycho sam pero May lapses din si ate girl
DeleteSa totoo lang, sa mga nakikita kong posts na nagvi-victim blame, biglang kambyo sila when they are being called out. Sabay sasabihing "I mean well".🙄 While yes, may mga tao who are very, very careful pagdating sa ganyang sitwasyon...di ibig sabihin nun you blame the others who didn't do the same. Kanya-kanyang sitwasyon, kanya-kanyang pinagdaanan, kanya-kanyang way of coping. Not because you or some can do it does it mean na ifo-force mo yun sa iba. Bibigyan mo sila ng benefit of the doubt kasi nga, magkakaiba tayo. We're not walking in the same shoes.
DeleteHindi teh walang victim blaming, winawarn niya lang mga tao
DeleteAyun na rin naman ang mindset na pinanggalingan nung first tweet nya. Nasita lang kaya may pagkambyo.
Delete12:16 So ok lang din bang ganito?
DeleteWarning sa mga babae: wag kasi kayong magsusuot ng mini skirt o shorts at tank top kung ayaw nyong maging biktima ng catcalling.
Is this how we are supposed to deal with these kinds of things?
And that’s the reason why she’s warning others na if ever they experience the same scenario, mag-iingat na. No factual study needed. Just pure common sense.
Delete1:12 nakuha mo
Delete1:12 red flags ang point ni Alex, hindi dress code. San logic mo ghorl?
DeleteWala naman sinabi si alex or implication ng victim blaming. She just issued a warning. Echosera assumera tong si Bela.
Delete@10:09 saang planeta kb galing? Daming bored sa bahay ngayon
ReplyDeleteWala naman masama sa reminder ni Alex. Totoo naman, shady ang isang tao kung nagpapakita ng interest and yet, wouldn’t show his/ her manlang Kahit sa video chat. Di ba natural reaction ng tao na pag May gusto or crush Tapos kinakausap din sya ng gusto nya, magtatry na makipag- kita or usap manlang. Given the technology Ngayon.
ReplyDeleteWala din naman study na mali yung sinasabi ni Alex na if one month e Hindi nagpapakita, Hindi pa din suspicious yung tao. It’s just a reminder to be extra careful at wag agad magpapaniwala sa kung Ano Lang basta ang Sabihin. Sometimes toxic din yung mga tao na giving too much consolation sa victim. Not to victim blame pero tell the person pa din what s/he needs to hear Hindi yung puro consolation Lang.
Daming kuda ni bela
ReplyDeleteSa totoo lang tama si Alex. Si bela dami pinaglalaban lately
ReplyDeleteI agree with Bela's first reply: "This isn't always the case, Alex."
ReplyDeleteDi ka pwedeng mag-generalize na, "eh kasi dapat ganito ganyan". Iba-iba ang tao eh. May kanya-kanya tayong way ng pag-cope sa mga sitwasyon, ng pag-deal sa love and affection mula sa ibang tao, etc. The danger with Alex's statement is, napakadaling iintrepret into, "oo nga, eto naman kasing si Jzan blah blah..." Di mo naman pwedeng iexplain yan sa bawat isang tao sa Twitter na makakabasa kung anong ibig sabihin ng post na 'yan. Alex should be more careful sa mga ganyang statement. You don't simply put a period to that. Sabi nga ni Bela, that isn't always the case.
Pareho silang may punto. Pareho silang matalino. Pareho nilang kinaya ipaglaban yung punto nila. At sa huli nagkasundo.
ReplyDeletemay point is Alex, sa panahon ngayon magtaka ka na kung di ka ivideo call, either may tinatago or walang data hehe..
ReplyDeleteHindi ko na maalala nang buo yung thread. Pero hindi ba nag-video call sila?
DeleteMasama si Sam, period. She vouched for Bilko. Pinaniwala nya si Jzan na friend nya si Bilko. That's proof number 1. Pinag-video call nya yung Bilko. That's proof number 2. Kinuha nya ang tiwala ni Jzan. Sya yung paulit-ulit na katext at kunwari tumutulong pag may tampuham, etc. That's proof number 3.
DeleteJusme ang daming red flags. Gising!!!
Deleteduh, you have to be blunt minsan para mauntog at madala.
ReplyDeleteI don’t see anything wrong sa sinabi ni Alex, mema lang si bela tho i got her point
ReplyDeleteSpeaking from her own experience, I guess... if you know what I mean...
DeleteMema pero may point at nagets mo naman.
DeleteAno raw????
Mema though you got her point. So mema ka rin?🤣
DeleteBella wanted to sound really intellectual by replying to alex's jolog tweet in the way she did. I actually felt alex's concern, but i only felt that bella wanted to sound pabida and pabibo
Delete@2:12 - YES!
Delete2:12 kuha mo, pa intellectual
DeleteAgree 2:12. Simpleng reminder lang si Alex. Tong si Bela kahit hndi naman kontra ung opinion nola ni Alex dun pa talaga sya sumingit sa post, si alex pa nagmukhang masama. Hay naku Bela.
Delete2:12 Pabida nga masyado.
DeleteHonestly, mas may point si Bela.
ReplyDeleteI stand with alex on this one. May point siya. IMO lang naman. Sa panahon ngayon at technology, imposible yung hindi nakakausap at nakikita online ng live.
ReplyDeletePanay dada lang talaga si Alex. Di nya nagegets yung point. That first tweet of hers could mean a totally different thing to a lot of people. Jusko girl!
ReplyDeleteAlex Gonzaga doesn't understand how that tweet of hers could be misinterpreted by a lot of her followers. Isip-isip naman!
ReplyDeletepa-explain naman anong misinterpretation ang pwedeng maganap sa tweet ni Alex.
DeleteOk, it's a warning from Alex. Pero di nya kasi nakikita yung point ni Bela.
ReplyDeleteInfluencer sya. Ang mga tao napakaiksi ng attention span. Kung nabasa ng followers nya yung first tweet, may possibility na i-retweet sya ng iba with the interpretation na its the victim's fault na nakaisang buwan na pero di pa nakipaghiwalay. That is not what Alex meant, as she says. But people with short attention span and those who simply read a single tweet without looking at the whole conversation, can easily interpret it as victim blaming. Like, retweet, screen shot, share, etc etc. The next thing we know si Jzan na ang binabash, which shouldn't be the case.
You know what a bored, shallow person would think pag nabasa nya yung tweet ni Alex? Na kasalanan ni Jzan ang nangyari sa kanya. That's the danger with that tweet. And Alex Gonzaga doesn't get it. Iba yung ibig sabihin ni Alex, pero napakadaling mamisinterpret nung tweet.
ReplyDeleteand you are one example of that.
DeleteExactly! It's not about what Alex meant with that tweet. It's about how it COULD BE interpreted by other followers as victim blaming. That's one danger. Mas malala kapag biglang ang narrative eh si Jzan na ang binabash at sinisisi. Influencer si Alex. She should know na may weight ang mga pinopost nya sa followers nya.
DeleteKumakalat na nga. Some are insinuating pa nga na tang@ na lang ang tutuloy sa ganyang relationship. I find it unfair. Nag-generalize na agad. May kanya-kanyang tayong ways of dealing with affection, love, trust, relationships. We simply don't call them tang@. Give them the benefit of the doubt kasi di mo rin alam ang history nila at ang current situation. Kaya nga influencers like Alex should be careful with her words. Di nya alam kung anong pwedeng interpretation nun sa ibang tao. And there's no way na maipaliwanag nya sa bawat isa ang ibig nyang sabihin.
DeleteI also catfished someone nung text pa lang ang uso. I was a dumb teenager back then who didn’t know any better. Hanggang ngayon binabagabag pa din ako ng konsensya ko. There’s no excuse for my actions. It was plain stupid and selfish and I regret putting that person through all that sh*t. I feel sorry everyday for what I did. Maling mali talaga.
ReplyDeleteI just hope Jzan gets out of this stronger and wiser.
Both sides may point.
ReplyDeleteThen what about those successful love stories that blossomed thru the internet, though? Even before Tinder, etc.
ReplyDeleteBasahin mo mabuti yung tweet ni Alex then maiintindihan mo kung anong difference niyang sinasabi mo
DeleteAlex's tweet was straight to the point and was said as a reminder, a warning sign para sa mga pwedeng maapektuhan. Bela is paki alamera. Bela wanted to sound intellectual and know-all dun sa simpleng straight to the point reminder lang naman ni alex.
ReplyDeleteDi mo lang naintindihan yung tweet, tinawag mo nang pa-intellectual at know-it-all. Di kita nagets, bash ko na lang.
Deleteagree. dapat nag tweet na lang si Bela ng sarili nyang opinion.
DeleteJzan got out of the relationship many times, didn't she? But this Sam pretending to be the bf kept on coming back. Jzan trusted her since nakakausap nya si Sam. MAY TOTOONG TAO TO PROVE NA TOTOO ANG BF NYA. SHE HAD A PROOF. Ganun kasama si Sam. Nakalabas na sa relasyon si Jzan pero tuluy-tuloy lang sya sa pagsisinungaling.
ReplyDeleteHence, this (Alex's tweet) isn't supposed to be the message that we are sending. What Sam did is pure evil and nobody should do that to anyone, transwoman o hindi. Wag nating sabihin sa mga babae na wag magsuot ng maiksing damit para di bastusin. Ang sabihin natin, di dapat nambabastos.
Gurl si jzan ang habol ng habol based on her tweets. Nagsosorry lng ung guy
DeleteIsa ka pa. Alex tweet is just a reminder. Be wary of Who you are dealing with. Generic reminder. We don't see any finger pointing. Bela appears to have taken it personally. Does the shoe fit?
Delete2:46 Yup! Kaya tama si Alex. Its Jzan's fault. Sya ang may gawa nito sa sarili nya.
DeleteYung point ni Alex is "common sense"! but I get Bela's point too .. na pre-conditioned nya na si Jzan kase kaya her common sense went out the door so to speak. I therefore conclude na si Alex and Bela ata ang di nagkaintindihan.
ReplyDeletejzan knew she was walking into a trap. for so many times there were instances that have literally saved her from going so far. her friends were already against it, her own instincts have told her to get away and move on already, plans got hurdled, second guessing came and honestly she knew she was plagued by it but love (pseudolove i call it) intervened. logic vanished and feelings got prioritized.she was willing to believe the lies as long as she satisfied the haste in her heart to be with the guy. got blinded by her need to be with someone, got hasty with it and fell right through the trap. nag vivictim blaming ba ako? no. i condemn the people who did this. it's downright stupid and ridiculous of them. they're lower than trash. pero nandun na eh. alam na ni Jzan eh. kumbaga tinulungan na sya ng guardian angels (yes i believe in guardian angels) nya na paulit ulit na syang sinasave from those trash na hindi na sya ma associate with them pero nag take sya ng risk eh. we can only move on and pray for healing. justice once and for all. karma to haunt them. (referring to the trash in this saga)
ReplyDeleteNot just that. They broke up. Nawalan na ng communication pala. But then again Jzan emailed and texted the guy parin asking for explanations and all. She even called yung Sam to ask for a help na makausap that guy. Hello habol din siya ng habol. She even tweeted na ‘’last na’’ na parang give it all na kasi last na talaga yun na yon. At first balak naman na talaga niya to gain sympathy, she even mentioned na magpopost siya ng mahabang thread. Uhaw na uhaw. Anyway not victim blaming but pareho naman silang mali. Naghanap lang siya ng kakampi and sympthy sa LGBTQ family niya.
Delete1:42 true ka jan sis... trust ur instinct din kasi eh bcuz it will save u from danger..
DeleteYou have to be in the victim's shoes to understand this. There really are people who are soooo good with manipulation and emotional guilt trip. Kaya nga yung iba sinisisi pa ang sarili. Mahirap maging victim ng emotional abuse. Tayong nasa labas, we see the big picture. Andaling sabihing dapat ganito, ganyan. It's a totally different situation when you're part of the relationship. So sana lawakan natin ang pag-unawa. We don't simply call them marupok or aanga-anga. Emotional abuse and manipulation is no joke. So instead, sabihin nating DO NOT DO THIS TO ANYONE BEC NOBODY DESERVES TO BE FOOLED AND HURT.
ReplyDeletenot everybody is like you na mabait ang perspective . there are really vile people out there. it's just how the world works. "what would good do if evil didn't exist?" she was willing to get into the trap. kakagawan din nya yun. she chose to trust her doubting feelings instead of the logic her survival instincts concurred to. kay ayan. nahulog sa banga.
Delete2:29 Oo nga. Kasalanan nya rin ang nangyari sa kanya.
DeletePanahon palang ng mirc and yahoo messenger chat uso na ang catfishing hehehe.
ReplyDeleteOo. Dati ang dami kong nakkachat na foreigner dati may jowa daw silang pinay. Pag send ng Friendster/Myspace, pic ni Ellen Adarna. lol
DeletePAREHO NAMANG MAGANDA ANG POINT NILA, MAGKAIBA NGA LANG VIEWS.
ReplyDeletesi SAM MORALES eh sick in the head. who the hell would go that lengths para mag manipula. at mali rin yang Bil ko na yan sa pagpapagamit nya kay SAM. pero sna wag kalimutan na may mali rin si Jzan. Nung iniwan ka sa jolibee dun pa lang dapat d na kayo naging ok after. pero naging ok pa rin. tapos nalaman mo na naglie about his identity, isang sorry ok na naman. You were so desperate for love or for a relationship na dapat mga ganyang asal na pinakita sayo ng tao eh ikaw na mismo pumutol sa relationship/communication mo. Pero nagpauto ka rin eh. walang manloloko kung walang magpapaloko. naloko ka na nga sa identity pero tinanggap mo pa rin. D kasalanan magmahal, kasalanan magpakatanga sa pagmamahal. So you also played a part bakit tumagal yan ng 8mos.
ReplyDeletesi alex yung perfect example ng shunga pero bilib na bilib sa sarili.. talinong talino sya sa sarili nya.. si bella yung smart pero kalma lang.. yung tipong pag shunga yung kausap sya na lang yung mag give up kausapin.. yung bahala ka kung yan gusto mong paniwalaan.. k. thanks. bye.
ReplyDeletePero si Bela yung know-it-all daw sabi nung isang comment sa taas. Di raw magets yung point. Umh, okay.😂
DeleteOf course Bela. Whatever you say.
DeleteTAMA SI BELLA. DI NA-GETS NI ALEX YUNG POINT.
ReplyDeleteUnlock your upper case. Huwag sumigaw.
DeleteTama si Alex. Eh naniwala naman yung Jzan kaya ayan nangyari sa kanya.
ReplyDeleteTama si Alex. Walang manloloko kung walang nagpapaloko. Jzan, dapat kasi nung one month pa lang alam mo nang fraud yang Bilko na yan.
ReplyDeleteI agree kay Alex this time.
ReplyDeleteSi alex ang papanigan ko here. Simula pa lang dami na red flag, sige padin si ghorl.
ReplyDeleteBoth have valid points but you can tell Bella was offended and wanted to prove Alex wrong. The conversation should’ve ended when Bella tweeted “perfect” and alex’s tweet on how they’re all here to help eachother, but Bella still felt the need to further explain her POV.
ReplyDeleteHay naku Bela, ang hilig mo din kasi umasa kaya yang mga advise mo.........
ReplyDeleteMaging matalino at mapagmatyag para di agad-agad nafa-fall!
Jzan was manipulated. Alam nyo ba big ibig sabihin nun? Stop victim blaming. And under age yung tao. Kahit saan mo tingnan, mali si Sam. It's like raping a minor multiple times. Majority of those instances that the rape happened, walang force because the victim was manipulated by the rapist that what they're doing is ok.
ReplyDeleteEh tama naman si Alex. Dapat sa one month nakilatis mo na. Di yun nagawa ni Jzan look at what happened to her. Marupok kasi kaya ayan ang napala nya.
ReplyDeleteJzan's fault. Tama naman si Alex.
ReplyDeleteKagagawan din naman to nung Jzan. Sabi nga ni Alex, one month na dapat alam na nya yun. Tapos ngayon paawa sya.
ReplyDeleteExpert si Alex duh. Kasalanan ni Jzan. Tama yun, one month na dapat di sya nagpapakamarupok ayan tuloy.
ReplyDeleteYung tweet ni Alex na may mga kakilala raw sya who went through the same situation so feeling expert na sya. Um, gurl it's a different case for every person. You mean we'll and that's good. But you should be smart to know that your tweet can be easily taken out of context. As I can see in some comments here and on Twitter, it already is being passed around with the same message - Jzan's fault! Completely ignoring the fact that everyone is at fault here. Jzan, the guy, and ESPECIALLY Sam!
ReplyDeleteAng smart talaga ni Alex Gonzaga.
ReplyDeleteAlex is right. Victim's fault. She should've been smarter.
ReplyDeleteTama naman. One month na di pa rin nya nagets na fake. Ginusto ni Jzan yan. Yun ang point ni Alex.
ReplyDeleteCheers Bella!
ReplyDeleteI'm with Alex on this one. Dapat lang na ma-correct ang ginagawa ni Sam Morales, the evil witch. Pero kasi 2020 na. Keep up. Ang dami nang naganyan. Wag nang maging desperate pagdating sa love. Self-actualization first. Puwedeng magkamali pero dapat lang na matuto. Always kailangang matuto at maging ismarte. Oo, victim ka, kawawa ka. Pero mas kawawa ka kung sa simpatya ka lang ng tao mabubuhay at hindi sa lessons na matutunan mo along the way.
ReplyDeleteYes! Blame the victim! Tama si Alex!
ReplyDeletePare parehong famewhore
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