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Friday, September 27, 2019

FB Scoop: Ice Seguerra Calls Out PAL Over Policy of Checking-in Musical Instruments



Images courtesy of Facebook: CY Diño Seguerra

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  1. Bilhan na lang nila ng ticket ung instrument nila. Pag pinilit mo kasi yung instrument like a guitar for example sa overhead cabin or coat rack, it will take so much space na dapat good for 2-3 persons' na. Parang ang selfish naman kung sa kanila lang.

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    1. Baka nitry naman nila bilhan ng ticket pero ang policy is sa check-in talaga.

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    2. BAkit napaka entitled ng mga celebs sa pinas? Sa tate may hanash bang ganyan?

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    3. Solution dyan ibang airline na lang sakyan nyo baka sakaling ipakandong sa inyo ang mga instrumento nyo.

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    4. May tanong lang ako,kung sa overhead yan,pano kung madaganan din at magasgas nung mga hand carry ng mga ibang pasahero,di ba masisira din yan?

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    5. Aside sa wala na space sa overhead bin, yung safety ng pasahero ang iniisip nila kaya ayaw ipa hand carry or kahit bilhan ng ticket ung instrument. Baka kasi pag nagka gulo sa plane ihampas lang ung guitar sa kung sino

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    6. Ang point 1239 ay ingatan ang gamit. Siguro kung may surname/given name lang ang instrumento malamang binilhan na lang nila ng ticket yan

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    7. it’s either to check in your instrument or buy a ticket for your instrument. yun kasi ang standard policy ng mga airlines kaya ang PAL nagadjust na sila sa standard policy. wag ng ipilit just follow the rules. it’s your choice check in or buy a ticket. tapos!

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    8. 4:22 oo naman, at hindi lang sa states, kahit sa ibang bansa din

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    9. Musical instruments that cannot fit in the aircraft cabin's overhead compartment or under the passenger seat cannot be accepted in the cabin. This means such instruments cannot be part of one's "carry-on". Instead, these shall be accepted as "check-in baggage" and will be loaded in the cargo compartment of the aircraft.
      Another option is for a passenger to avail of the 'cabin baggage option' whereby a seat is provided for the instrument, subject to charges.

      If the musical instrument fits the aircraft's overhead compartment or under the aircraft seat, it can be accepted in the cabin as part of one's "carry on".

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  2. Sana masolusyonan, kahit mag bayad sila nang extra dyan, di biro nga naman na makita yung instrument na may pa waiver na nakasulat na, di namin kasalanan, in case na masira yan, grabe naman.

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  3. Iba ang security ng airport guys, hindi yan ordinary transport. Huwag natin ipilit ang sarili natin dyan. Sumusunod lang din ang mga air companies sa policy ng airport. Kung ayaw nila i-check in ang musical instrument, they can avail the cabin check in, i think, if i am not mistaken. Huwag masyado entitled. Kailangan natin sumunod.

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    1. True! Bakit ba hindi nila maintindihan na airlines created policies/ rules and regularions, dahil yan ay for safety ng mga passengers. Hibdi ba puwede mag rent na lang sila ng kung anong instrument ang gagamitin sa pupuntahan nilang place? Bakit need mag adjust ng mga isang company para sa kanila 🙄

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    2. i work for pal before. bawal talaga sa over head compartment yan. ngayon kung gusto mo talga na isama sa cabin, pwede naman, bibilhan mo ng seat. bali para kang bumili ng ticket for two. for sure pinaliwanag sayo yan. hindi mo lang inavail kasi mahal.

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    3. pag nilagay yan sa plane overhead bin, sakop na niya halos lahat ng space, eh pano naman yung ibang passengers. agree ako sa mga comments ng iba, feeling entitled talaga..

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  4. Artists should understand that airline would put people’s safety over any other material things.
    You buy a seat for your instrument because in case of emergency it could block passengers from exiting the plane.
    Instruments can be stored in a hardcase to keep it secure. We all take risks when we take the plane or even take a car. I can travel with a ming vase and the same risk would be there with any musical instrument. Would you rather put people at greater risk than 1 person’s belongings?

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  5. Musicians who are earning well enough are willing to pay more for proper care and transport of their instruments, but not all of them can afford extra seat or 2 business/1st class seats. Some instruments are worth millions, some are centuries old. Given that they cannot always choose how they travel (yeah, I've read that poster insisting to go via ship if musicians need more space. Like duh, when will they reach?), or which airline to use for the destination.

    It's a reality that fragile stickers aren't respected by porters and baggage handlers. Why else are instrument cases that are made of good materials are still getting broken when checked in? So rather than insisting for buying extra seat or checking in, airlines can ask for an extra fee for a separate stow for guitars and the like just as some do for wheelchairs and strollers. I think that's a win-win solution, since the airline gets extra income, and the passenger musician is happy.

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    1. Yeah,Ive seen that ,others just pay extra for their items like strollers,
      Fishing rods etc. Im not sure about guitars.like if you are the one carrying the guitar for example,the other passengers at the back might get injured or something.

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    2. Even if you buy extra seat. Airline policy to have it checked in.

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    3. Kung ako yan ha,suggestion lang.If you want to make sure that your valuable items do not get destroyed in the airplane.Just pay the movers prior to your trip.Ipa fed x mo,lbc mo ganyan.Im sure the forwarding company will take care of your items.

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    4. What if they just pay a forwarding company then have their musical instruments shipped to them,hindi pa masisira pag forwarding company.Instead of.bringing the items with you sa airport.

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  6. Not this again. Just freakin' buy cabin baggage for your VERY important instruments. PAL offers that product kung ayaw i-check in.

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    1. Nothing as such. Airline charges extra fee for additional checked baggage BUT never for cabin baggage

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    2. Girl, just google PAL musical instruments or PAL cabin baggage. Nothing as such ka dyan. Taga-PAL ka te?

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    3. What if ipadala mo kaya sa forwarders prior to your trip.Para sure ka na mapangalagaan ang valuable items mo at hindi na sa airline?

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  7. Feeling entitled, e airline policy e. Di huwag kayo sumakay sa Pal o kaya bili kayo ng isang seat for the guitar?

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    1. You can't buy a seat for personal effects or items. Kahit nga bags bawal nakalabas pag taxi at landing. Kasi di design ung seat belt to keep them intact. Pag nagkaproblema ung plane, lilipad ung gamit at pwede makasugat. Saka policy nga di ba, kahit bumuli siya ng 10 upuann di papayagan na iupo nia ung gitara

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    2. Mga hand carry,if not in the overhead cabin,youll have to fit them under your front seat.

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    3. I heard na only cello ang pwede bilhan ng upuan kahit sa ibang international airlines.. Kasi it is big to fit in the seat. Pero not guitars

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  8. Simple lang yan Aiza noh, bilhan mo ng ticket yung instrument mo. Alangan naman i hand carry mo sya eh ang haba ng gitara pano naman yung mga hand carry ng mga kasama mo? Or magbusiness class or first class ka para mas malaki cabin size nyo. Kalurky!

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    1. Classmate, you are not helping; alaska na lang ba and kalurky attitude palagi? Pano kung starting out pa lang yung musician and cant afford business class tix? Sana naman meron tayong ma-isip na way to help local musicians di ba? Classmate, malay mo in your next life, musician ka and need to travel, pano na? Hug-hug.

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    2. Satsat ka nang satsat Hindi mo naman alam. You can’t buy a seat for any musical instrument. Most inter island flights don’t have business class or first class. Lol. Alamin mo mona before satsat.

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  9. Oh my god these people are not first time travelers. Arline's have different policies about carrying musical instruments. Not because x accepted will automatically mean y should too! I've always thought musicians as intellectual Pero bat ganyan

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  10. Ba't ba kasi pinapa sign ng waiver eh responsibilidad na ng PAL yan. Kasi kung may mangyari man sa instrument, may pananagutan talaga sila.

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    1. Actually may mangyari sa instrument or lets say ano pang mahalagang bagay,panagutan ng nagdala.Pero sagutin ng PAL kung dahil sa dala mo ay may matamaan na ibang tao.Halimbawa nahampas
      O kaya natusok yung katabi mo.Kahit hindi mo sadya,yung airline ang idedemanda ng pasaherong naabala.

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    2. Sana nga po ganun lang kasimple yun ano, 3:01. For sure PAL have reasonable reasons for their policy.

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    3. Reasonable lang is that they're waiving responsibility in case mawala and masira yung gamit. Kaya nga gusto ng musicians to have it with them.

      Cabin space is also max 42 inches.

      Simple lang. Dont support PAL.

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    4. Anon 11:07, nope ayaw lang magbayad ng PAL kamo. Kasi alam nilang substandard ang services nila, at sobrang mahal ng ticket. I will never fly with that airline ever again.

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    5. Ang masasabi ko lang ay I will still fly with PAL.Kasi buhay ko nakataya everytime I board an aircraft at bilib din ako sa PAL lalo na sa mga piloto.

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    6. Why kasi hindi mai respeto ang saliting FRAGile sa mga stickers on very delicate items binabalibag pa rin e

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  11. Tama yan, sign a waiver, since pinilit nila yung instrument nila. In case, masira yung item, hindi isisi sa PAL. Sa dying patients nga may waiver ang hospital, sa mga items pa kaya na check in nyo sa airplane...

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  12. Dear self, hindi lang PAL ang airline sa pinas. You can get Cathay, China, Thai, Singapore, etc... Bad ba ang service ng PAL, use another airline :) Diba ang dali dali lang ng solusyon?

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    1. Yep! That is so true! Kung ayaw mo ng Pal,your free to fly another airline.Or take the boat with the musical instruments.

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    2. Meh, we are not just talking about international flights. Ice is talking about inter-island flights within the Philippines, meaning PAL and Cebu pacific lang.

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    3. 3:30 thing is maliliit kasi ang eroplano pag unter island lang ang plane.Usually yan yung tatlyhan ang pasahero sa bawat side,walang seats sa gitna.So maliit lang din ang luggage compartment.

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  13. Hay dami talagang Pinoy ang entitled. Pero kung sa abroad yan na ganyan susunod naman mga yan eh.

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  14. Question,pano nakaka perform mga malalaking orchestra or yung mga back up bands pag may
    Tour abroad? Ibinabarko ba muna ang instruments bago itransport yung mga tao?just wondering?

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  15. Mahal na musicial instrument vis-a-vis a policy from an airline company with an utmost diligence required by law? Totoo talaga? Napaka self serving naman ata nun. Instead of telling us how expensive yung instrument is, bakit hindi alamin yung wisdom behind the policy bakit hindi pwede i-hand carry ang ibang gamit like your instrument?

    Lay people could easily understand na SAFETY ang reason and believe me BOY, mas magugulat ka pa kung ano ang mga rason bakit hindi pwepwede. Kaya kayo na tatawag na entitled e!

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  16. Guys read the post again. Kahit gusto man nilang bumili ng ticket for the instrument itself, bawal nga, pang check in talaga. Yun ang policy na kinaiinisan nila. Ang daming instruments actually na maliit pa ang case sa hand carry luggage na pwede mong ilagay sa overhead bin. Kaya yung rason na need ng space is a little bit moot.

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  17. Bakit hindi nya magets yung for safety? Hindi secure pag hindi nilagay sa overhead bins kaya safety issue. Sabihin man nya na kasya sa overhead bin, pero hindi akma sa size requirements for carry-on ang guitar case. Meaning pag pinilit ilagay sa overhead, aagawan mo ng space yung ibang passenger (And malamang pag nalagay yang gitara sa isang overhead bin, ayaw mo palagyan ng ibang gamit kahit kasya pa maliit ng iba dahil baka madamage ang gitara).

    Unless ang offer mo sa pal eh bumili ka ng 3 upuan at kanyahin ang isang overhead bin, tsaka mo sabihin na hindi mo padin gets ang safety concern nila.

    Pasensya na. Triggered ako sa mga entitled na pasahero walang considerasyon sa kapwa pasahero.

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    1. Napakaentitled namna ng mga to. Kailangan tlga ung airlines mag addjust sa kanila. Susunod nyan pati mga ibang professions na may mamahaling equipment magrereklamo rin.

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    2. ang problem kasi sa PAL lang yung walang lugar para sa mga hand carry na instruments. Substandard kasi yang airline na yan, hindi sa entitled sila. Sa totoo lang may karapatan sila magreklamo lalo na napaka mahal maningil ng PAL.

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    3. Hindi ko alam pano nakakarating ng ibang bansa lets say ang Philharmonic Orchestra? Saan inilalagay ang mga malalaking musical instruments? Naka padala na ba yan before they get to the venue?

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  18. Kairita parang sila lang ang pasahero. Oh baka magsumbong kay tatay digong niyo.

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  19. hanapan dapat ng solusyon ito. kung ang policy i-checkin, magprovide sana ang airline ng lalagyan or box na secured ang instruments & the like. at dapat may accountability din ang airline not the otehr way around na may waiver na wala silang pananagutan.

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    1. Ano kaya kung ipa freight na lang in advance or mag hire ng forwarding company para maidala ng safe kung ano man ang gusto niyo.

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  20. ang swerte ko pala sa emirates.. di ako nagkaproblema sa gitara ko..
    tinanong ko yung ground crew kung kailangan kong e.check in yung gitara ko at sabi nya na dapat hand carry kasi fragile yan, madaling masira at mabasag kaya di pwedeng check in.. tapos si ate mong f.a sinubukan ilagay sa overhead bin pero di kasya kaya ayun dun nya sa galley inilagay.. pero 2017 pa yun.. di ko alam kung iba na rin o bago na policy nila ngayon..

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  21. I think it has something to do with the airline itself.Kung malalaki ang aircraft baka naman may pa compartment para sa mga fragile items.Kung local flights na maliit ang aircraft baka hindi nga yan kayanin at hindi kasya.

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  22. Wow ha..paano kung puro musicians ang sumakay sa eroplano? E di wala space sa cabin huhuhu..siempre mga sportsman gusto din...un ngang alagang hayop pinapacheck in at separate sa tao...na kung ituring parang pamilya..dameng demands ha...bili ng private jet pra la problema..

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    1. Hindi ko nga din alam e ,pano ba nakakarating sa ibang bansa lets say mga banda o musikero na back up ng mga artista natin? Dun ba sila rerenta ng instruments na gagamitin sa show?

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    2. You are talking nonsense because that never happens. That’s improbable to have all musicians book the same flight with all their instruments.

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  23. Pasahero din ako ng eroplano at excuse me Ice, wala ako pake sa value ng gitara mo, ang importante sa akin buhay ko at buhay ng iba pang pasahero.

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  24. I work at the airport at sinasabi ko sa inyo.. ang guitars are considered as check-in baggage. Alam niyo kung bakit nalulusot yung ibang instrument as hand carry? Simple. Kasi maliit siya enough to be placed in the overhead bin. Di lang naman isang pasahero gagamit ng bin eh. Tsaka in some instances, kahit maliit nga pinapakiusapan pa namin yan sa Flight Purser if pwede kasi minsan ang flight puno. So we also have to be considerate. Basta naman hard case, pwede i-check in.

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