I'm glad Juan brought this up to public's attention. Hopefully more people will understand the struggle of up and coming artists to be recognized and their talents to be duly compensated.
Salamat naman at bibuking ni Kuya. Pagka ganito dapat talaga pinapakalat at kawawa naman mga artista ano wala ba silang mga bills na dapat bayaran. Kakainsulto yung ganito
5:42, it can be both for some. And besides, if it is a VOCATION, then the more that one has to emphasize the importance of what he's doing, by placing premium value on it.
Sana nag usap na lang siya at yung coordinators ng mall privately. He posted this para yung mga pa woke i-cancel yung mall and para siya yung lalabas na hero.
Para aware din yung ibang artists. Parang ang baba naman ng tingin sa kanila. Food lang para transportation, sariling composition at entertainment? Hindi naman ata worth the hassle lalo na at traffic pa. At siyempre kahit pag-usapan sa private baka gawin pa rin yan ng mall sa iba.
Awareness ang intention nya siguro para next time may ibang organization na gustong kumuha ng services ng spoken word artists, malaman nila na hindi pwedeng pagkain at thank you lang ang compensation. Hindi naman lahat ng tao na pinaglalaban yung propesyon nila eh gusto magpaka-hero. Minsan gusto lang din nila ipaunawa sa mga tao yung halaga ng ginagawa nila.
Puro kayo "usap in private". Nagusap naman eh, kung anong tapang nya sa public post, ganun din katapang sa private check, check the screenshots. Shinare na lang ngayon for awareness sa ibang artists.
Dude, hindi ako artist. Pero yun ang ikinabubuhay nila. Talent. Bigyan ka ng pagkain in exchange of that talent na pinaghirapan mo para umangat ka at para makilala? Siguro naman kahit hindi mataas may pambayad si mall. Mali kasi ay nag-offer agad. Hindi nag negotiate muna.
At sana lahat ng artist ganito. Pero wag naman to the point na babanggitin pa yung name ng establishment. Siguro naman napaso na sila sa sinabi mo sa message.
Siguro may mga things meant to be kept in private but like what I always see sa mga support groups ng artists or workers.. Nagsshare sila sa experience about this for the purpose of NOT ACCEPTING THIS KIND OF PAYMENT. Otherwise, mamimihasa sila at feeling nila lahat payag sa ganung terms. Bababa ang value nila wherein fact hindi dapat.
why not? dapat talaga isinisiwalat ang ganyang kalakaran! inviting artist for free meal? bakit ka pa maginvite if ayaw mo magbayad? malabo naman na wala kang pangbayad kasi mall event nga sya di ba?
So kapag nainsulto ka pala privately hinde ka pala pwdeng mag react publicly. Kailangan pala isipin ng artist yun mararamdaman nun nag invite sa kanya kasi baka maoffend niya yun nag offer sa kanya ng free food..okay gets ko na..
And for crying out loud, the mall is going to 'use' the artist to entice people to visit the place and their establishments - bottomline, kikita si mall. So si artist ano? Kakain lang? Sa thousands na kikitain ni mall, isang meal lang ang worth ni artist?
Now that is really insulting. They might not be as popular, but come on! They got bills to pay, too! They aren't small kids that you can bribe with food!
5:41 so pag artist Hindi dapat binabayaran? What kind of thinking is that? I have artist friends and when they are commissioned to do something, they get paid. A lot. So where does your logic comes from?
Well 5:41, Juan Miguel Severo is already both - an ARTIST who has CELEBRITY status. Kaya nga SIYA ang sinubukang kunin ng mall di ba? I admire him for standing up to this establishment in PUBLIC - pampalakas loob din sa fellow artists nya na nag-iisip na okay lang palaging free 'for exposure' lang ang treatment sa kanila.
Judger si 10:09, I live in Eastwood at kahit pa sabihing isang lugar un with 2 malls sa loob, iisa pa dn nagmamanage ng area. So iisa pa dn accountable representing Eastwood
Hahaha so true sa mukhang tatay @1:33, watched his movie recently (a brother of the lead to be precise) at mas mukha pa siyang matanda sa “kuya” niya 💁♀️💁♀️
Ano trabaho mo nung baguhan ka? Say bank teller ka. Mag offer syo ng free breakfast and lunch everyday, tanggapin mo? Tapos hindi ka rin pwede mag protest o mag complain against it kasi nags start ka pa lang.
He already has published several books, starred in several movies and teleseryes, wrote plays, wrote in some teleseryes and just wrote Manoy Eddie's last movie Hintayan ng Langit. Pano kayo wala kayong pagpapahalaga sa mga artists na gumagawa ng de-kalidad na materyal. Tapos sasabihin niyo puro basura at ka-jejehan yung mga palabas sa TV, eh hindi rin naman kasi marunong sumuporta sa mga maayos at magagaling na manunulat.
I don't think he posted this para sa mga "woke" and para ibash ng netizens yung mall. If that was his intention pinangalanan niya sana. Most likely he's doing this for awareness. Nagreply siya sa mall personnel who contacted him pero sa totoo lang, hindi naman baguhan sa negosyo, marketing at pakikipagtransact sa suppliers at talents ang mga malls lalo na yung in-charge. Dapat alam niya yan na hindi sapat yung pakainin lang just to avail someone's services. Hindi nila hinihingi na bayaran sila ng malaki but at least give them a certain amount naman. Ito kasi klaro na may budget naman dahil mall event yan pero sadyang binabarat yung mga artists na kagaya nila. He's just defending his profession na bigyan naman sana sila kahit konting value.
I know someone na photographer. He posted like this din the other day. An old friend reached out to him to do a family photo shoot and offered him "pa-snacks" after. He DECLINED. Hello? Seryoso ba mga ganyang galawan free meals for the person's effort???? Hindi naman libre ang pinuhonan nyang mga yan sa crafts nila. Nauuso pala talaga ang "free meals" buti na call out and dapat lang.
Naiintindihan ko. Don't jump into conclusions na mahina compre ng tao dahil iba lang opinion. I just find this whole pa-woke ilabas-lahat-ng-angst-sa-social-media culture tiresome and narcissistic.
Sana konti lang mga taong tulad mo 12:57, kasi hindi uunlad ang Pilipinas at hindi rin magiimprove ang sangkatauhan kung ganyan tayo lahat mag-isip.
Juan Miguel Severo did the right thing by expressing this on social media EXACTLY BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO EXPOSE ON A PUBLIC PLATFORM. Hindi naman sya pa-'woke' lang dahil obvious naman ang basis nya. He wasn't just 'complaining' for the sake of - he is furthering the rights of other artists to assert their worth, and encouraging them to not be afraid to express it too.
12:57 you find it tiresome that people fight for respect and deserve rights? you are what is wrong with the filipino culture because clearly, you’re asleep. just stay watching your teleseryes and go.
Unang una, define 'meals'. What if it's 6 months of unli meals anywhere within the mall? O diba, that changes everything. React react kasi kagad, di naman i-clarify muna.
1:50 so kelangan mamasahe nung artist everyday (o kaya tumira na muna sa eastwood) para sa unli meals na yan?? WTF. that's not a good deal. bayaran na lang nila ng tama ung tao
Baka naman hindi ung taga mall mismo ang kumontak sa kanya kundi ung small time organizer ng event.. at hindi pa kaya magbayad ng money kundi ung food ng bazaars Nia.. hahaha..
Tama siya! Kahit sa TV production ganyan din ang kalakaran. Ex deal palagi. Walang bayad kasi ilalagay naman daw sa credits ang name ng Tao or place. Onli in da pilipinas!
real artists dont do craft for money. they do it out of passion. most artists know they wont earn but still they do it. what your doing is business darling dont label it artistry.
Wait lang tita, for the record nag peperform siya ng libre for events like fund raising and frequent speaker din siya sa alternative classroom learning activities in UP. Kikita yung mall kasi papanuorin siya. Gagamitin siya pang market. Do you think that's fair? And kung ganyan ang thinking mo, paano naman ang artists na nag iinvest sa mahal na equipments? Kailangan din nilang magbayad ng bills, tita.
Talaga lang ha! So artists don’t get paid for what they do? Maybe they do not charge exhorbitant fee but they still charge. You know nothing, whoever you are
Being an artist means having your own craft, whic has value in itself. A lot of people use it for a living so they can earn while doing something they love. Hindi porke passion nila e ibig sabihin libre dapat. Labo mo.
So sila Michael Jackson, Lady Gaga, etc. hindi true artists kasi naniningil sila? You can earn money doing something youre passionate about if you decide to pursue it as a career. Isip isip naman.
Nkka insulto nman tlga prang bata na inutusan kpalit lolipop..Mall nman un so malamang may pera sna nag nki usap na lng sa terms ni Juan Kung hndi pwewde di hndi at iba na lng.
This is really insulting. If the inviter was a charitable institution I would understand but a mall? That is just way disrespectful and exploitative. Malls charge an arm and a leg for rent and they have the gall to ask this and reason this way? Kudos to this guy for calling this out and saying no.
Mali naman yun mall. Mag invite tapos free meals lang. Ako rin naman mag decline. Pano kung sa araw na yun may event ako na pagkakakitaan ko tapos ipagpapalit ko para dyan, no way! Kahit wala gagawin, di na rin. Pamasahe pa lang gastos na. Nakakainsulto nman yan.
Pamasahe tapos trapik pa, oras na ilalaan, equipments na gagamitin, tapos 1-2 pc chicken with veggies lang ang kapalit (lagyan lang ng garnish para sumosyal five-star epek) Aba’y tama naman si koya, magka-carinderia na lang ako kung ganyan lang din 💁♀️💁♀️
He was asked. Privately. He could have declined. Just as privately. And no, i do not work for that mall. This is supposed to be a symbiotic relationship - the mall is able to mount an event (which i assume is non-ticketed) with minimal expense, and he gets to promote his craft. What should have been a non-issue, he made a big deal of. Sus, ang simple lang huminde. It's acts like this that make Social Media a bane.
May trabaho ka ba? Subukan mo ipromote trabaho mo sa mga tao nang libre, payag ka? Ganun lang yun kasimple. Trabaho yan ng tao, hindi tama na pagkain lang ang ibayad. DUH.
12:36 hindi mo nagets na nakakainsulto yung ginawa ng mall. The moment na naisip ng mall people na okay lang to pay artist with food instead of their actual fee is sobrang nakakababa.
Read the comments above. Yes, he could have done it privately but he exposed this experience to ward off similar offers and also to warn others not to accept these kinds of offers. Kailangan naman talaga i call out. Ang yaman yaman ng mall na yan tapos pagkain lang Kaya I bayad?
1236, a lot of talents started that way but that doesn't ever make it right. I'm glad this became a public talking point and hopefully make things a little better. He wasn't asking for thousands of pesos but even a beginner, which he definitely isn't, doesn't deserve only a meal as compensation. I'm sad you don't think this is an issue and I hope you have never treated anyone this way.
12:36 hindi mo ba nagegets. We are not supposed to encourage this type of culture that’s why he’s calling them out. Buti sana kung exdeal like gadgets or something really valuable. At buti sana kung maliit na business or friend na nakikiusap. Nasa mall ang event so ibig sabihin may budget sila. Pero for artists wala. Only meals?? Para lang yan yung mga foreigners na kumukuha ng designer and writers dito na 100 pesos ang offer dahil alam nilang may kakagat dahil maraming gipit. But that’s the point. Dont take advantage dahil alam mong gipit. Offer them the appropriate rate.
Haunty, JMS has already published several books, starred in several movies and teleseryes, is the most popular spoken word artist in the PH today (at nagi-gig siya out of town which I'm sure is bayad), and even wrote Eddie Garcia's last movie. Hindi siya non-issue!
My gosh enabler ka ng mga MALI. Ikaw yung tipong mag oofer sa ga professional mong kaibigan ng snacks pagkatapos silang hingan ng professional na serbisyo. Yun lang.
Bastos itong mga x deal na ganyan.Kahit anong klaseng service provider dapat matuto tayong magbayad.Pa event event kayo tapos pagkain lang ang bayad,ano fiesta.Makikain sa kapitbahay.
I don't see anything wrong sa reklamo niya. I work as a professional artist and so does my husband. This is our livelihood, we invest in our equipment and we have bills to pay. We are more inclined to accept paid gigs over x-deals because kailangan din naman namin mabuhay. LOL. Sana maintindihan ng mga tao na hindi ito pagdidiva. Dapat lang malaman ng mga artists para 1. mabago na ung sistemang ganito 2. para iboycott ng artists ung mall.
Yung mall, kumikita sa mall goers so it only makes sense na magbayad din sila ng tama. Kung family or friends, pwede naman pagbigyan. Magpprofit ang mga malls from the event so sana diba magbayad naman ng tama.
Xdeal tawag diyan diba? The mall will highlight the upcoming artist's name thru their marketing collaterals para magka exposure,in return,the upcoming artist will entertain the customers.
Ginagawa talaga yan diba para sa mga pasikat pa lang para magkaexposure?
Di ko sinasabing di pa sya sikat pero parang ganun na nga.
12:37 xdeals usually involve non-monetary items na valuable like gadgets, memberships, lifetime supply of services. Pero meals??? Meals??? Anoyan pulubi? You have to understand na itinatama natin ang mali. It’s about time na iencourage natin na may sapat na kabayaran ang mga service providers. Hindi enough ang promise of exposure dahil walang kasiguraduhan na maglelead yan into more lucrative offers.
12:37 isa ka rin na mahina ang comprehension. Ok ka lang kahit pamasahe nga wala e! Pero kung makasingil ang mall kahit sa parking na lang wagas! Ano ba naman yung magbayad kahit kaunti?
Di ko talaga gets yang exposure as payment na yan. Para bang, kumuha ka ng damit sa isang store at di mo binayaran, kasi pag sinuot mo naman, exposure din para sa clothing brand. Pwede ba yon? Before you say na that's what the artistas do, not really, they wear the clothes and return them after.
talent = service so any service you render, you should get compensated. A meal is not compensation, basic requirement yun kapag tumanggap ka ng gig. :|
@1237AM - Xdeals are common but the deals are usually substantial meaning if they can't give cash, they'll give an equivalent say in gift cards or vouchers for their stores so the talent can shop or dine in their mall stores and restos for an amount equivalent to what would have been their talent fee. They would also usually throw in transportation arrangement and accommodations. This is standard for exdeals. Pero barat talaga si mall which is ironic since they position themselves as upscale haha.
True 9:55! Meals are usually a standard inclusion na pag may event ka na inorganize, and you have suppliers and talents. Papakainin mo talaga sila - HINDI iyon lang ang i-ex deal mo.
Pagkain lang?!? **** Mall pa yun ah. Sa dami-dami ng kinikita nila pagkain lang? Buti sana kung ginto yung pagkain.
ReplyDeleteMay kilala nga akong singer sa mga gigs niya puro pagkain lang ang bigay sa kanya. Sad but that is the reality.
DeletePayag ako basta isang buong litson baboy at baka bawat gig ko. Kasama pa kawayan.
DeleteThe events coordinator of the mall is at fault corruption at its finest
Deletebeing an artist is a vocation not a profession.
DeleteHahaha 1:58 agree. Pati kawayan iuwi.
DeleteMaling mali.This is really ridiculous.
DeleteBastusan yung ganito.Walang respeto sa mga talents.Di ba hanap buhay yan ng mga talents.So bakit pagkain lang .Ano sila Kadamay?
DeleteI'm glad Juan brought this up to public's attention. Hopefully more people will understand the struggle of up and coming artists to be recognized and their talents to be duly compensated.
DeleteSalamat naman at bibuking ni Kuya. Pagka ganito dapat talaga pinapakalat at kawawa naman mga artista ano wala ba silang mga bills na dapat bayaran. Kakainsulto yung ganito
Delete5:42, it can be both for some. And besides, if it is a VOCATION, then the more that one has to emphasize the importance of what he's doing, by placing premium value on it.
DeleteParang ginawa siyang pulubi! Bastos!
ReplyDeleteUng trabahador sa bahay, payment with meals. Etong si artist, meals na lang ang inoffer. Ang lala
DeleteSana nag usap na lang siya at yung coordinators ng mall privately. He posted this para yung mga pa woke i-cancel yung mall and para siya yung lalabas na hero.
ReplyDeleteSome management deserves to be called out!
DeleteOh please mabuti nang ganito kasi walang mangyayari kung hindi niya cinall out yung mall. I bet you work for them, huh. Damage control much?
DeleteMali naman kasi...
DeleteWhy not? So okay lang sayo itolerate ang mga taong mapag samantala?
DeleteThis is needed. Kawawa yunv mga small time nagraraket.
DeletePara aware din yung ibang artists. Parang ang baba naman ng tingin sa kanila. Food lang para transportation, sariling composition at entertainment? Hindi naman ata worth the hassle lalo na at traffic pa. At siyempre kahit pag-usapan sa private baka gawin pa rin yan ng mall sa iba.
DeleteAwareness ang intention nya siguro para next time may ibang organization na gustong kumuha ng services ng spoken word artists, malaman nila na hindi pwedeng pagkain at thank you lang ang compensation. Hindi naman lahat ng tao na pinaglalaban yung propesyon nila eh gusto magpaka-hero. Minsan gusto lang din nila ipaunawa sa mga tao yung halaga ng ginagawa nila.
DeleteHe didn't even mention the mall. Stop.
DeleteAnd your point is?
DeleteFirst 1:52 comment, he mentioned the mall’s name... reading comprehension naman dyan please. Go!!! Then stop.
Delete2:03 where???? How many malls are there in Eastwood? Lol!
DeletePuro kayo "usap in private". Nagusap naman eh, kung anong tapang nya sa public post, ganun din katapang sa private check, check the screenshots. Shinare na lang ngayon for awareness sa ibang artists.
Delete12:26 Minention ba nya kung anung mall? Marunong ka ba magbasa? Basa ulit
DeleteEastwood is an entire location, not a mall 2:03
DeleteDude, hindi ako artist. Pero yun ang ikinabubuhay nila. Talent. Bigyan ka ng pagkain in exchange of that talent na pinaghirapan mo para umangat ka at para makilala? Siguro naman kahit hindi mataas may pambayad si mall. Mali kasi ay nag-offer agad. Hindi nag negotiate muna.
DeleteAt sana lahat ng artist ganito. Pero wag naman to the point na babanggitin pa yung name ng establishment. Siguro naman napaso na sila sa sinabi mo sa message.
Siguro may mga things meant to be kept in private but like what I always see sa mga support groups ng artists or workers.. Nagsshare sila sa experience about this for the purpose of NOT ACCEPTING THIS KIND OF PAYMENT. Otherwise, mamimihasa sila at feeling nila lahat payag sa ganung terms. Bababa ang value nila wherein fact hindi dapat.
Deletewhy not? dapat talaga isinisiwalat ang ganyang kalakaran! inviting artist for free meal? bakit ka pa maginvite if ayaw mo magbayad? malabo naman na wala kang pangbayad kasi mall event nga sya di ba?
DeleteSo kapag nainsulto ka pala privately hinde ka pala pwdeng mag react publicly. Kailangan pala isipin ng artist yun mararamdaman nun nag invite sa kanya kasi baka maoffend niya yun nag offer sa kanya ng free food..okay gets ko na..
DeleteLol ok. I did not know that. He obviously said, a certain mall in Eastwood but not mentioning what.😅
DeleteBuraot siguro ng artist to si 12:26 hahaha
DeleteAnd for crying out loud, the mall is going to 'use' the artist to entice people to visit the place and their establishments - bottomline, kikita si mall. So si artist ano? Kakain lang? Sa thousands na kikitain ni mall, isang meal lang ang worth ni artist?
DeleteWow ang bastos nung mall na yon. Sila kaya magtrabaho na walang sweldo PAYAG?
ReplyDeleteExactly! Mga walang modo
DeleteNow that is really insulting. They might not be as popular, but come on! They got bills to pay, too! They aren't small kids that you can bribe with food!
ReplyDeletethen dont be an artist pls google. be a celebrity instead.
Delete5:41 so pag artist Hindi dapat binabayaran? What kind of thinking is that?
DeleteI have artist friends and when they are commissioned to do something, they get paid. A lot. So where does your logic comes from?
5:41 I don't need Google to know when a person's worth is being insulted.
Delete5:41, remember that there are some celebrities with no talents, too.
DeleteWell 5:41, Juan Miguel Severo is already both - an ARTIST who has CELEBRITY status. Kaya nga SIYA ang sinubukang kunin ng mall di ba? I admire him for standing up to this establishment in PUBLIC - pampalakas loob din sa fellow artists nya na nag-iisip na okay lang palaging free 'for exposure' lang ang treatment sa kanila.
DeleteAnak ng..... food ang pambayad??!!! My goodness. Which mall kaya yan
ReplyDeleteNilagay na nga dyan...basa basa
DeleteWag shunga 1:47 Eastwood ay isang lugar, hindi siya MALL, napaghahalataang di ka pa nakakapunta jan 💁♀️💁♀️
DeleteJudger si 10:09, I live in Eastwood at kahit pa sabihing isang lugar un with 2 malls sa loob, iisa pa dn nagmamanage ng area. So iisa pa dn accountable representing Eastwood
DeleteNAKAKALOKA!!! Drag them Juan!
ReplyDeletego miguel, you are talented wag mong hayaang insultuhin ka ng iba. writer ng hintayin ang langit (eddie garcia) and that thing called tadhana yan.
ReplyDeleteSo? Humblebrag much?
DeleteProbably just stating facts 4:49 to reiterate the fact that the artist has already elevated himself to actually have name recall and street cred.
DeleteNaalala ko tuloy yung dati na nag-offer ng shoutout.
ReplyDeleteThat starlet na maraming projects eh hindi naman magaling at mukhang tatay.
Deletenacorrect naman na yung attitude
DeleteHahaha so true sa mukhang tatay @1:33, watched his movie recently (a brother of the lead to be precise) at mas mukha pa siyang matanda sa “kuya” niya 💁♀️💁♀️
DeleteUgh, not going to that crappy mall. BOYCOTT
ReplyDeleteLol as if everyone's going to do that
Deleteoa mo baks
DeleteSana he declined politely if doesn’t want the deal. Madami din sa mga big star ngayon ang nag start sa ganyan, sya ba sino ba sya ngayon?
ReplyDeleteYou work for the mall? So what kung hindi sya sikat? Nakaka insulto pa rin
DeleteAnong akala ko sa kanya 1:09, ojt pa lang? Di kelangan ng pera? Haha
DeleteTha did not deserve a POLITE reaction. You obviously do that and are afraud to be exposed 1:09. Shame on you
DeleteHe's the biggest local spoken word artist. So kung ginaganyn sya, imagine na lang ano ginagawa sa iba.
DeleteAno trabaho mo nung baguhan ka? Say bank teller ka. Mag offer syo ng free breakfast and lunch everyday, tanggapin mo? Tapos hindi ka rin pwede mag protest o mag complain against it kasi nags start ka pa lang.
DeleteNow, tama ba logic mo? :)
You don't need to be famous to deserve respect and courtesy.
DeleteHindi nababayaran ang dignidad at respeto sa craft mo. Dapat lang expose mga ganitong klaseng offer.
DeleteParati kasing ganun ang mentality..may sino ba siya factor..teh, pantay lahat dapat..walang sinuhan..
DeleteSusme ateh kung ikaw yan at kahit hindi artista.Halimbawa janitor ang trabaho.Walang pasweldo,pakakainin ka lang.Gusto mo?!?
DeleteYou’re one of the reason why artists are still looked down on! think again. try it sometimes, para di sayang ang brain cells
DeleteHe already has published several books, starred in several movies and teleseryes, wrote plays, wrote in some teleseryes and just wrote Manoy Eddie's last movie Hintayan ng Langit. Pano kayo wala kayong pagpapahalaga sa mga artists na gumagawa ng de-kalidad na materyal. Tapos sasabihin niyo puro basura at ka-jejehan yung mga palabas sa TV, eh hindi rin naman kasi marunong sumuporta sa mga maayos at magagaling na manunulat.
DeleteTruee 1141..
DeleteEh sino ka rin ba ngayon @1:09? Isang ANON as in ANONYMOUS! 💁♀️💁♀️
DeleteThey dont value real art form or talent because if they did they would have paid him for proper talent fee. Taking advantage of artists is shameful.
ReplyDeleteSa panahon ngayon may ganyan pa rin?! Jusko kawawa ang mga artists sa Pinas
ReplyDeleteI don't think he posted this para sa mga "woke" and para ibash ng netizens yung mall. If that was his intention pinangalanan niya sana. Most likely he's doing this for awareness. Nagreply siya sa mall personnel who contacted him pero sa totoo lang, hindi naman baguhan sa negosyo, marketing at pakikipagtransact sa suppliers at talents ang mga malls lalo na yung in-charge. Dapat alam niya yan na hindi sapat yung pakainin lang just to avail someone's services. Hindi nila hinihingi na bayaran sila ng malaki but at least give them a certain amount naman. Ito kasi klaro na may budget naman dahil mall event yan pero sadyang binabarat yung mga artists na kagaya nila. He's just defending his profession na bigyan naman sana sila kahit konting value.
ReplyDeleteTruth.
DeleteI know someone na photographer. He posted like this din the other day. An old friend reached out to him to do a family photo shoot and offered him "pa-snacks" after. He DECLINED. Hello? Seryoso ba mga ganyang galawan free meals for the person's effort???? Hindi naman libre ang pinuhonan nyang mga yan sa crafts nila. Nauuso pala talaga ang "free meals" buti na call out and dapat lang.
ReplyDeleteJust say no. Di ka naman pinipilit.
ReplyDelete^^ Which he did, he said no.
DeleteClearly di ka nagbabasa or sadyang rip reading compre ka @3:15 💁♀️💁♀️
DeleteNaiintindihan ko. Don't jump into conclusions na mahina compre ng tao dahil iba lang opinion. I just find this whole pa-woke ilabas-lahat-ng-angst-sa-social-media culture tiresome and narcissistic.
DeleteSana konti lang mga taong tulad mo 12:57, kasi hindi uunlad ang Pilipinas at hindi rin magiimprove ang sangkatauhan kung ganyan tayo lahat mag-isip.
DeleteJuan Miguel Severo did the right thing by expressing this on social media EXACTLY BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO EXPOSE ON A PUBLIC PLATFORM. Hindi naman sya pa-'woke' lang dahil obvious naman ang basis nya. He wasn't just 'complaining' for the sake of - he is furthering the rights of other artists to assert their worth, and encouraging them to not be afraid to express it too.
That's your opinion and I respect that but I stand my own opinion din.
Delete12:57 you find it tiresome that people fight for respect and deserve rights? you are what is wrong with the filipino culture because clearly, you’re asleep. just stay watching your teleseryes and go.
DeleteWalang budget o nangungupit si ate? Laki ng kita ng mall anu ba yan.
ReplyDeleteUnang una, define 'meals'. What if it's 6 months of unli meals anywhere within the mall? O diba, that changes everything. React react kasi kagad, di naman i-clarify muna.
Delete1:50 so kelangan mamasahe nung artist everyday (o kaya tumira na muna sa eastwood) para sa unli meals na yan?? WTF. that's not a good deal. bayaran na lang nila ng tama ung tao
Deleteikaw @150, alukin ka instead of sweldo, 6 months worth of meals, payag ka?
Delete1:50 it would have been indicated in the offer. please do not act naive.
DeleteBaka naman hindi ung taga mall mismo ang kumontak sa kanya kundi ung small time organizer ng event.. at hindi pa kaya magbayad ng money kundi ung food ng bazaars Nia.. hahaha..
ReplyDeleteTama siya! Kahit sa TV production ganyan din ang kalakaran. Ex deal palagi. Walang bayad kasi ilalagay naman daw sa credits ang name ng Tao or place. Onli in da pilipinas!
ReplyDeletereal artists dont do craft for money. they do it out of passion. most artists know they wont earn but still they do it. what your doing is business darling dont label it artistry.
ReplyDeleteWait lang tita, for the record nag peperform siya ng libre for events like fund raising and frequent speaker din siya sa alternative classroom learning activities in UP. Kikita yung mall kasi papanuorin siya. Gagamitin siya pang market. Do you think that's fair? And kung ganyan ang thinking mo, paano naman ang artists na nag iinvest sa mahal na equipments? Kailangan din nilang magbayad ng bills, tita.
DeleteTalaga lang ha! So artists don’t get paid for what they do? Maybe they do not charge exhorbitant fee but they still charge. You know nothing, whoever you are
DeleteBeing an artist means having your own craft, whic has value in itself. A lot of people use it for a living so they can earn while doing something they love. Hindi porke passion nila e ibig sabihin libre dapat. Labo mo.
DeleteSo sila Michael Jackson, Lady Gaga, etc. hindi true artists kasi naniningil sila? You can earn money doing something youre passionate about if you decide to pursue it as a career. Isip isip naman.
Delete5:40 do not patronize the real artists, “darling”.
DeleteNkka insulto nman tlga prang bata na inutusan kpalit lolipop..Mall nman un so malamang may pera sna nag nki usap na lng sa terms ni Juan Kung hndi pwewde di hndi at iba na lng.
ReplyDeleteThis is really insulting. If the inviter was a charitable institution I would understand but a mall? That is just way disrespectful and exploitative. Malls charge an arm and a leg for rent and they have the gall to ask this and reason this way? Kudos to this guy for calling this out and saying no.
ReplyDeleteMali naman yun mall. Mag invite tapos free meals lang. Ako rin naman mag decline. Pano kung sa araw na yun may event ako na pagkakakitaan ko tapos ipagpapalit ko para dyan, no way! Kahit wala gagawin, di na rin. Pamasahe pa lang gastos na. Nakakainsulto nman yan.
ReplyDeletePamasahe tapos trapik pa, oras na ilalaan, equipments na gagamitin, tapos 1-2 pc chicken with veggies lang ang kapalit (lagyan lang ng garnish para sumosyal five-star epek) Aba’y tama naman si koya, magka-carinderia na lang ako kung ganyan lang din 💁♀️💁♀️
DeleteHe was asked. Privately. He could have declined. Just as privately. And no, i do not work for that mall. This is supposed to be a symbiotic relationship - the mall is able to mount an event (which i assume is non-ticketed) with minimal expense, and he gets to promote his craft. What should have been a non-issue, he made a big deal of.
ReplyDeleteSus, ang simple lang huminde. It's acts like this that make Social Media a bane.
no but it's because yung ganitong kind of unfair deals against artists thrives in secrecy, away from public eyes
Deletesaka awareness yung purpose ng post
Talagang tanggol much..Market practice na ba kasi ang magpameryenda na lang
DeleteKun non issue naman ito para sayo e ibahin mo si kuya kasi nainsulto ninyo siya..
DeleteMay trabaho ka ba? Subukan mo ipromote trabaho mo sa mga tao nang libre, payag ka? Ganun lang yun kasimple. Trabaho yan ng tao, hindi tama na pagkain lang ang ibayad. DUH.
Delete12:36 hindi mo nagets na nakakainsulto yung ginawa ng mall. The moment na naisip ng mall people na okay lang to pay artist with food instead of their actual fee is sobrang nakakababa.
DeleteRead the comments above. Yes, he could have done it privately but he exposed this experience to ward off similar offers and also to warn others not to accept these kinds of offers. Kailangan naman talaga i call out. Ang yaman yaman ng mall na yan tapos pagkain lang Kaya I bayad?
Delete1236, a lot of talents started that way but that doesn't ever make it right. I'm glad this became a public talking point and hopefully make things a little better. He wasn't asking for thousands of pesos but even a beginner, which he definitely isn't, doesn't deserve only a meal as compensation. I'm sad you don't think this is an issue and I hope you have never treated anyone this way.
Delete12:36 hindi mo ba nagegets. We are not supposed to encourage this type of culture that’s why he’s calling them out. Buti sana kung exdeal like gadgets or something really valuable. At buti sana kung maliit na business or friend na nakikiusap. Nasa mall ang event so ibig sabihin may budget sila. Pero for artists wala. Only meals?? Para lang yan yung mga foreigners na kumukuha ng designer and writers dito na 100 pesos ang offer dahil alam nilang may kakagat dahil maraming gipit. But that’s the point. Dont take advantage dahil alam mong gipit. Offer them the appropriate rate.
DeleteHaunty, JMS has already published several books, starred in several movies and teleseryes, is the most popular spoken word artist in the PH today (at nagi-gig siya out of town which I'm sure is bayad), and even wrote Eddie Garcia's last movie. Hindi siya non-issue!
DeleteMy gosh enabler ka ng mga MALI. Ikaw yung tipong mag oofer sa ga professional mong kaibigan ng snacks pagkatapos silang hingan ng professional na serbisyo. Yun lang.
DeleteOk lang kaya kung SHOUTOUT ang bayad kay kuya hehe
ReplyDeleteBastos itong mga x deal na ganyan.Kahit anong klaseng service provider dapat matuto tayong magbayad.Pa event event kayo tapos pagkain lang ang bayad,ano fiesta.Makikain sa kapitbahay.
ReplyDeleteOhhh. Wow pwede kaya manood ng sine ng libre jan dalhan ko sila ng isang bowl ng sinigang na isda kapalit ng free movie. Hahaha manggagantso
ReplyDeleteMasyado naman, baka yun lang ang tingin nila na worth nya, so just say no!
ReplyDeleteFeeling sikat namana agad to
ReplyDelete@5:23 PM - hello mall marketing staff member. enjoying your minimum wage? :)
DeleteHe actually is. Labas labas din ng cave please
DeleteNot his fault that you're uncultured @ 5:23
DeleteExactly
ReplyDeleteI don't see anything wrong sa reklamo niya. I work as a professional artist and so does my husband. This is our livelihood, we invest in our equipment and we have bills to pay. We are more inclined to accept paid gigs over x-deals because kailangan din naman namin mabuhay. LOL. Sana maintindihan ng mga tao na hindi ito pagdidiva. Dapat lang malaman ng mga artists para 1. mabago na ung sistemang ganito 2. para iboycott ng artists ung mall.
ReplyDeleteYung mall, kumikita sa mall goers so it only makes sense na magbayad din sila ng tama. Kung family or friends, pwede naman pagbigyan. Magpprofit ang mga malls from the event so sana diba magbayad naman ng tama.
Xdeal tawag diyan diba? The mall will highlight the upcoming artist's name thru their marketing collaterals para magka exposure,in return,the upcoming artist will entertain the customers.
ReplyDeleteGinagawa talaga yan diba para sa mga pasikat pa lang para magkaexposure?
Di ko sinasabing di pa sya sikat pero parang ganun na nga.
Just my two cents.
12:37 xdeals usually involve non-monetary items na valuable like gadgets, memberships, lifetime supply of services. Pero meals??? Meals??? Anoyan pulubi? You have to understand na itinatama natin ang mali. It’s about time na iencourage natin na may sapat na kabayaran ang mga service providers. Hindi enough ang promise of exposure dahil walang kasiguraduhan na maglelead yan into more lucrative offers.
DeleteSiszt, di na nya kailangan ng exposure. His name is big enough
Delete12:37 isa ka rin na mahina ang comprehension. Ok ka lang kahit pamasahe nga wala e! Pero kung makasingil ang mall kahit sa parking na lang wagas! Ano ba naman yung magbayad kahit kaunti?
DeleteDi ko talaga gets yang exposure as payment na yan. Para bang, kumuha ka ng damit sa isang store at di mo binayaran, kasi pag sinuot mo naman, exposure din para sa clothing brand. Pwede ba yon? Before you say na that's what the artistas do, not really, they wear the clothes and return them after.
Deletetalent = service so any service you render, you should get compensated. A meal is not compensation, basic requirement yun kapag tumanggap ka ng gig. :|
Wag nyo na itolerate ang ganitong kalakaran.Nakakainsulto sa mga talents.Dapatvkung may event, may nakalaang budget.Otherwise wag kayong magpaevent.
ReplyDeleteEw ang cheap. Kahit nga siguro yung nanlilimos is maghahanap pa rin ng pera. Ang liit ng tingin sa mga nagspoken poetry ganern?
ReplyDelete@1237AM - Xdeals are common but the deals are usually substantial meaning if they can't give cash, they'll give an equivalent say in gift cards or vouchers for their stores so the talent can shop or dine in their mall stores and restos for an amount equivalent to what would have been their talent fee. They would also usually throw in transportation arrangement and accommodations. This is standard for exdeals. Pero barat talaga si mall which is ironic since they position themselves as upscale haha.
ReplyDeleteTrue 9:55! Meals are usually a standard inclusion na pag may event ka na inorganize, and you have suppliers and talents. Papakainin mo talaga sila - HINDI iyon lang ang i-ex deal mo.
ReplyDeleteKahit hindi naman masyadong sikat si Severo wag naman pagkain lang exdeal mga boss. Shame on you.
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