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The couple had to rectify the error to the point of approaching each of their godparents to sign the new documents again. In the process of fixing their papers, the couple encountered problems, which led to losing interest and sadly, falling out of love. Technically, Camille’s marriage to Martin was null and void.
Three years later, the presence of Andrew Wolff in the birthday celebration of Heart and Camille’s father was questioned. Netizens were quick to accuse Camille of playing around, not knowing that her “marriage” and relationship with Martin was over. Meanwhile, Andrew has never married and thus, he and Camille are free to be together.
They’re still technically married unless they have secured a judicial declaration of the nullity of the marriage, if indeed the errors are grounds enough to have the marriage declared null and void ab initio.
ReplyDeleteTama si 4.34 pm.
DeleteAng kulit mo no?
DeleteAnon 4:34...malinaw naman sa Article ni FP na null and void na ang kasal...no need pa idetalye kung ano ying buong nangyari at naging processo...direct to the point - hindi na recorded legally ang marriage docs nila.
Delete517pm, tama si 434pm. Even 1st year law students would know that.
DeleteMalamang may declaration na yan. Sa tingin niyo ba magpapabuntis at magkakaron siya ng bagong partner (na alam ng public) kung technically married sila? I don’t think so.
Delete434 may seremonya pero walang papeles. Ok ka na?
DeleteMost likely they have secured a judicial declaration duh. Just cause the article did not state above doesn't mean hindi. That's the logical next step if they want to separate. And easy to get at that.
DeleteBaka naman hindi na nai file yung marriage cert nila after the wedding.. susko wag na nga tayo mamroblema. Basta null and void. Kung yung ex husband nga hindi nagrereklamo 😂
Delete"Technically, Camille’s marriage to Martin was null and void." is different from Legally, Null and void. So correct si 4:34pm.
Deleteang tanong eh kung na-file ba ang mga dokumento. kung di nafile yung first set, walang kasal di ba?
DeleteKung separated na din naman and the separation was mutual before Andrew came to the picture what else is the problem? There so many celeb couples who jump into relationships even before their marriages get annulled. Why should this be singled out by you 4.34. But then again as per article the marriage was null and void meaning no marriage has taken place and marriage is not recognised. So really this is a non issue.
Delete4:34 is right. I have the same case. I still had to nullify my marriage.
DeleteHow can you legally null and void a document if it is technically null and void?
Delete@1216, KORTE lang po ang pede mag-deklara na legally null and void ang marriage mo.
DeleteIf walang deklarasyun from the Korte, legally you are still married.
To the non-lawyers and non-law students, kahit po sa tingin nyo na "technically null and void" ang marriage nyo, you still need to secure a judicial declaration of nullity of marriage from the court
DeleteIf you fail to secure a judicial declaration of nullity from the court, legally speaking,you are still considered married notwithstanding the fact that your marriage is "technically null and void".
Sana po naintindihan nyo po ang explanation ko.
What will you ask from the court if in the first place YOU WERE NEVER MARRIED. Hindi nga tinanggap ni PSA yung kasal nila di baaaa hindi registered..
Delete@1:08am,there was a marriage ceremony.
DeleteKahit po di registered, you still need to secure a judicial declaration of nullity from the court.
There is already a supreme court ruling on the same matter in the late 90s if i remember correctly from law school.
In the process of fixing their papers, the couple encountered problems, which led to losing interest and sadly, falling out of love.
DeleteYou are correct 12:16. Null and void, period. Besides the Ongpaucos have the money to hire the best lawyers and they have connections to people in high courts. Let's not play attorney wanna bes.
DeleteSusme.Kung gusto niyo ng evidence dapat tignan nyo na lang ang final docs ng nullity.Ewan!
DeleteNagmarunong! No need to go into details basta null and void na ang marriage.
Delete@2:47, due to the heavy case load in family courts (RTC), it takes a few years to obtain a judicial declaration of nullity of marriage so i highly doubt it if they were able to obtain it in 2 years time.
Delete-ex clerk of court (lawyer po ako)
@2:13, im a lawyer.
Delete4:34, 12:25, 12:40, 1:36 are right. I am willing to bet that these commenters are also law practitioners as well. They know what they are talking about.
Lumilitaw ang mga pañero’t pañera na nagbabasa ng FP. Kaway kaway dyan! 🙋♀️😂
DeleteSabi sa inyo,hindi mga basta basta ang mga casual readers ng FP.Maraming mga alta.
DeleteNangyayari pala ang technical errors? So Hinde siya annulled ? Ganun ba? Any lawyers here....
ReplyDeleteHindi sya anulled kasi in the first place walang record ng kasal na dapat i anull.
DeleteI am a lawyer.
DeleteIf the marriage certificate was not submitted to the Local Civil Registrar and Philippine Statistics Authority, then there is nothing to be annulled or be declared as null and void. Seems like none was submitted in this case as they had to have the witnesses sign again. This is pure speculation and conjencture though based only on what we read here.
5:28 saang law school po kayo? Essential requisite ba ang registration with the civil registry? Pakisagot po dahil abogado din ako.
Delete5:28 thank you! Im not a lawyer pero naisip ko nga po na baka hindi na nai file.
DeleteMalaking check 5:28!
DeleteSiguro tinuloy na lang nila yung wedding rites dahil andoon na lahat. Naka ayos na. Alangan pauwiin mo mga bisita.
Delete@6:57, tumfact panyero/panyera! Ang galing.hehe. tama po si 6:57.. malamang run-off-the-mill law school yan si 5:28, hehe.
DeleteSuper basic kasi nyan e. 1st year law students would know that as early as 1st sem in law school.
-lawyer din
Anon 6:57 sa UP College of Law. Eh ikaw?
Deletesana wala dito yung feelinggera kong kakilala na feeling know it all and pinagmamalaking from UP college of Law but in reality hindi naman sya don grad.and don lang nagreview pero hindi nakapasa sa Bar exam
Delete@11:46, kung sagutin mo kaya yun tinatanong ni 6:57 kung saan banda sa Family Code na essential requisite ang registration sa Civil Registry?
Delete-not 6:57 but i agree with him/her
Di ko kinaya si 6.57
DeleteGanito yan... so you file a petition for declaration of nullity of marriage. You have to attach a copy of the marriage certificate. If there is none,be it from the LCR, PSA, a Philippine consulate, or some other office or agency, why even bother filing the petition? First year law students know the Family Code but they don't know anything yet about the practice of law.
DeleteFreshmen law students know the Family Code but they don't know the practice of law because they have yet to learn Evidence, Civil Procedure, and a whole lot more.
DeleteSure, a marriage certificate is not necessary for the existence of a marriage but without one, what document will a petitioner in a petition for nullity or annulment of marriage present? On what document be the final decree of annulment or nullity be annotated?
Nano-nosebleed na ako sa inyo...
DeleteAnd yung baby girl ni Camille ngayon ay anak nila ni Andrew.
ReplyDeleteSaw Andre Wolff sa Rockwell with a girl and a baby tapos may yaya. Si Camille siguro un? Di ko nakilala haha. Sabi ko, ay may anak na pala sa Andrew Wolff? Infer cute nung baby.
DeleteWhat kind of technical error? Is it a matter of form affecting the authority of the solemnizing officer, or their marriage license, or their marriage ceremony?
ReplyDeleteIf there was a complete absence of any of the formal requisites (those stated in my previous paragraph) of a valid marriage, then the marriage is indeed void ab initio. However, it has to be judicially declared. Hence, Camille and her spouse should have initiated an action for declaration of nullity of marriage. They cannot just assume that since there was an apparent error, their marriage is not valid. It is a matter determined by the courts, not by the spouses.
However, if the technical error was just an irregularity in the formal requisites, then their marriage remains valid, but the person/s responsible for such irregularity shall be civilly, criminally or administratively liable.
Thanks for the info 4:50
DeleteI think maybe they already went through the legal process di na lang dinisclose na ginawa na nila lahat yan. I doubt they would just assume things as null and void without having lawyers present since lawyers for sure naman ang nag handle ng processing ng documents nila.
Agree. Basang basa ang family code ah. Ilang annulment cases ang nabasa mo? Hehehe
DeleteAs stated above "the two were informed that there was a technical error in their documents." Hindi naman sinasabing "the two assumed na may problema sa documents nila", Kaya hndi valid ang Marriage. Dami mong sabeee
Delete510pm, tama po si 450. Hindi po sa madami syang sinasabi, tama po sya. I am assuming na either law student or lawyer si 450. Alam at tama po ang sinasabi nya.
Delete510 muka namang alam ni 450 sinasabi nya about law?
Delete🙄🙄🙄
DeleteChismosa lang ako pero Atty, how difficult is it to produce requirements /docs to consummate a ‘civil wedding’? They are educated people who’ve been in a long relationship and I assume they had so much time to prepare before deciding to get married- na technical pa rin? Wala lang
DeleteActually Mr or ms 510, 450 is correct. May basis sya sa law and Hindi gawa gawa na "daming masabe"
Deletei think nakapag.consult na sila kay Chiz, alam nmn na nla ano gagawin nla..wag na nating problemahin ya..hahaha
Deletepahiya ung mga pakialamerang netizens
ReplyDeleteTrue! Hindi naman siguro gagawa ng isa pang problema si Camille.
DeleteWell.. It’s a blessing in disguise if it’s true that there’s an error with their marriage papers.
ReplyDeleteThey need to undergo an annulment. I was annuled Kaya alam ko. Yung nga Kay congressman arroyo remember. Di narehistro but court still acknowledge her as the legal wife. It's not raining on anyone's parade but we do know Kung ano ang mangyayari
ReplyDeleteano ba yan, sa dami ng pera nila pambayad ng attorney tingin mo ba hindi nila alam yan? for sure naisip na nila yan. lol
DeleteNope annulment is not needed. Ganyan kadalasan kung outdoor yung wedding.
DeleteAng nullity korte lang po ang pwedeng magdeclare.
DeleteIm sorry , but I dont think that these people are dumb not to submit the documents of the grand wedding.
Delete8:51, nope.It is actually easier lalo na on their case.It was a civil wedding.
Deleteganyan din nangyare sa brother-in-law ko and her gf. so they got married, civil. then hndi nila alam na may expiration date pala ung marriage license nila. marriage license ung kinukuha sa munisipyo when you want to get married. iba pa ung sa marriage contract. ung marriage contract ung pinapa-pirmahan sa mga sponsors. and so they werent able to file the marriage contract kasi nga expired ung marriage license nila. and so they have to get a new marriage license. and during the process, ayun naghiwalay sila. yes, the wedding ceremony was there but it was not legalized kasi nga hndi nila naayos ung mga papers. baka ganun din nangyare sa sister ni heart since civil wedding sya and outdoor ung location. so lahat ng papers ila mismo ung magaayos.
ReplyDeleteAng sad naman nun. Na fell out of love along the way?
Delete8:39 Dear madaming couples ang naghihiwalay kahit engaged na sila at nasa wedding preps stage na. Stress and emotions can really take a toll in a relationship. Sobrang overwhelming emotionally, mentally, and financially. What more yan na milyon milyon ang ginastos sa kasal tapos malalaman mo invalid pala.
DeleteAaaaww... so sad but hey sabi nga ni vice ganda, breakups will lead you to your real destiny nga daw.
ReplyDeleteEveryone deserves another shot at happiness. So if hindi nag work out yung marriage, it's not wrong to try anew.
ReplyDeleteI agree. Leave her alone di naman siya showbiz bakit kailangan ungkatin pa. But seriously, Andrew Wolff talaga? Girl you could’ve done better.
DeleteHahahahaha! Pak na pak ka dyan 5:34!
DeleteAlam mo nadawit lang naman pangalan ng mga Ongpauco's kakapatol nitong Andrew doon sa commenter then bigla siyang binara.
DeleteAsk ko lang mga sis. Pag kinasal ka na 17y.o ka lang pero pineke ginawa kang 18y.o and may parent consent, pero walang marriage license or cenomar na pinasa legal pa din ba?
ReplyDelete17 kasi ako kinasal tapos pineke ginawa akong 18, tapos ang papalabasin typo error daw yung year of birth ko. and i refile nalang daw after 1 year. ayun naka register sya kaso bulacan nakalagay kahit sa manila ako kinasal civil lang. Salamat sa sasagot hehehe
So long as you are below 18 when you got married, the marriage is void. The consent of your parent is immaterial. Such consent matters only when the couple is above 18 but under 21.
DeleteBut do not that while your marriage is void, you still have to secure judicial declaration of nullity (not annulment, because those 2 are different) before you can get married. Otherwise, you may face bigamy charge.
Your marriage was null and void an initio for lacking the legal pre-requisites namely, valid marriage license & existing legal impediment at the time of marriage which is your age. But you need to secure a judicial declaration of nullity of your marriage.
DeleteAng tanong ko lang isang taon na lang nung time na yun at 18 ka na, bakit di pa naantay? Eh di sana legal ang marriage contract mo. Ang akin lang kasi baka magkaproblema ka pagdating ng panahon, dahil sa mga discrepancies na yan. Anyway asan na mga lawyers dito
DeleteDi ko alam technicalities pero jusko umpisa pa lang dami ng anomalya ng married life mo. Masamang pangitain
DeleteAng gulo pala ng marriage arrangements dito! Pero dapat ang batas kahit 13 pa lang o 16 pa lang yung babae pag nabasbasan na ng Isang Authority na Magkasal e Kasal na yun ayusin o hindi nila yung mga documents. Tali ka na.
DeleteMay record parin kaya annulment is needed pero mas madali hanapan ng grounds for annulment.
DeleteIt is voidable but you still need to go to court. Pass your birth certificate and if you think it's additional cost. Pao will gladly help you.
DeleteHi this is 5:24. Hinabol kasi para yung last name ng baby sa father. Yes pregnant ako that time. Sadly hiwalay na kami. Mahal ba pag pina void yun? No idea kasi wala pa ako time kumausap ng lawyer. Thanks sa mga reply nyo classmates
Delete@1214, if private lawyer, mahina po 100K. Usually, by installment naman bayaran nyan at hindi 1 bagsakan.
DeleteIf di po kaya ng budget, approach po kayo sa PAO. Kuha lang po kayo ng Certificate of Indigency sa Brgy. in case gusto nyo po tanggapin ng PAO yun kaso nyo.
Or try nyo rin po magtanong/tumawag sa IBP for free legal advice or referral for a lawyer. May mga volunteer lawyers po sa IBP.
12:14 Pwede namang gamitin ng baby ang last name ng father kahit di kasal di ba? Well, dahil tapos na yun, punta ka na lang ng PAO kasi mahal talaga sa private.
Delete@12:14, mahal na ngayon ang bayad. I filed for a declaration of nullity of marriage in 2005, i found out that my x husband had a first marriage, i seek the help of PAO, 4 mos bago ko nameet in person yung na assign na lawyer sa kin, nainip ako kaya i hired a private lawyer, i paid him 50k in full, after nya ifile walang action, until imade a follow up in 2007, napakahirap jan sa tin magfollow up lalo na sa Manila City Hall... it just happened na may nakilala ako na pamangkin ng dati kong c0-worker and with his help, Narelease ang finality ko ng Jan. 2008. Tyagaan lang and samahan mo ngnapakaraming dasal, at maraming pera na ngayon ang kailangan. Goodluck on your journey ;-)
DeleteUmabot po ang annulment case ko ng 900k dahil my lawyer vs their lawyer.Pagkamahal mahal.Nagiging mahal kung lumalaban ang magkabilang panig.
Delete@943, mabilis na yan 3 years mo considering na Manila RTC/Family Court. Tambak ng kaso yan. 3 years is quick. Lucky you.
DeleteActually depende talaga kung mabait ang judge.May mga ibang judge ayaw mag annul.
Delete12:14 sayang nagpakasal ka just for that. Pwede namang gamitin ang surname ng father kahit hindi kasal. Pipirma lang sya ng acknowledgement of paternity sa birthcert nung bata (syempre pagkapanganak pa), so magkakaextra page lang yung birthcert nya. At least, saves you from being tali to someone
DeleteSa yaman nilang yan sa tingin niyo ba na hindi nila na exhaust lahat ng legal options na pwede? Malamang dumaan na yan sa legal process. Kaya nga may anak na siya at may partner na bago. Or else makakasuhan siya ng adultery. Isip isip din.
ReplyDeleteMismo.. yung mga ultimate chismosa kasi gusto pa alamin ang buong istorya.
DeleteTrue. Yung iba dito, kailangan pa detailed ang story na ibibigay eh nakiki-chismis lang tayo. Lol.
DeleteWag nang lumayo, Chiz, her brother in law is a lawyer! So malamang sa malamang wala nang issue legally yan. Tama na mga hanash niyo.
Deletecorrect, dapat may pera silang pang annul. Sa yaman ng mga yan. Also, I don't get it that the first marriage lacked the documents. Ikwento natin yan sa pagong.
DeleteOh trust me this happens a lot sa mga garden weddings and my husband and I are one of them sa Cavite din. Kasi hindi properly trained ang pastor's office sa papers eh (not their fault, magulo lang talaga). Noong I file na namin kasal namin, mali daw ito etc. Kasi walang enough lines para sa signatures. dapat daw ganito ganyan. So pinare type pa naming yung infos sa form. Typerwiter ah! Nag hanap pa kami ng typewriter. Tapos the following days pinuntahan naming isa isa mga sponsors tapos balik nanaman sa Cavite na hindi ka aasikasuhin agad dahil lunch break daw nila. Nag nap muna sila sa office nilang may aircon after kumain habang naghihintay kami doon. May deadline din yon. Super stressful talaga sabi pa samin namayat na daw kami and baka daw magkapatid kami kaya daming nangyayari. Magkamukha kasi kami. Kaya kung di naman naayos yun parang nagpa party lang kami pero hinti talaga valid.
ReplyDeleteLegal po lahat ng yan. Syempre may business and other assets na nainvolved. Maa marunong pa po ang iba dito sa korte e hehe. Ang hirap ng mga nagmamarunong at nagiging expert base lang sa nakikita sa social media. Palibhasa sanay kayo sa mga artistang nag-iair ng dirty laundry sa public. Camille and Andrew are good people.
ReplyDeleteHi FP! Thank you for being a responsible blogger and clarifying the issue. Camille and Andrew are the nicest people! They deserve all the love!
ReplyDeleteCamille? YES! Andrew? Not too sure
Deleteayan kasi naka-all black ang entourage sa wedding.
ReplyDeletesabi na nga kasi wala naman mawawala kung makikinig sa pamahiin.
Bakit di pwede pag black?
DeleteWhat’s the pamahiin pag naka black? Paki kwento baks please.
DeleteYung place Saan ginanap ang kasal May curse din ata lol.. angelfields lahat May ganap na kasal dun Hinde nag kakatuluyan daw lol
Wow. Haha. Sinisi talaga sa motiff yung hiwalayan. 2019 na uy.
Deletemalay mo anon 12:14 ang mundo umiikot lahat yan sa energy. magtanong ka sa mga fengsui expert
DeleteSiguro magands din sumunod na lang tayo sa pamahiin tutal wala naman daw mawawala sayo.
Delete9:03 lol fengsui. No thanks.
DeleteAfter 16 years of going steady and 2 years of marriage, dahil lang sa technicality, naghiwalay na agad? What happened?
ReplyDeletee sa ayaw na nila e
DeleteIt just happens, you know, especially if you’re in a super long term bf-gf relationship like what they had. Mafafall out of love ka talaga at some point in the relationship. Kaya the challenge talaga is to keep on finding ways to fall in love with each other again and again and again.
DeleteHindi mo kasi lubusan makikilala ang isang tao unless makasama mo sya sa iisang bubong. Siguro nung ngsama na sila, they realized ang dami nilang differences.
DeleteWho knows..may be they fall out of love! Buti na lang wala silang anak.
DeleteMaybe they felt that the nullity of their marriage was a sign?
DeleteDba 13yrs pnaghandaam un? Sabay me technical error s documents?...
ReplyDeletePero bakit kaya sa may kaya nangyari na null pala ang kasal nila sa concept ng kasal mabusisi pero yun marriage contract may prob? Confused me.
ReplyDeleteBakit grabe ang reaction kung maging sila ni Andrew? Bakit andaming pakialamera, hindi naman siya celebrity para pakialaman nyo buhay nya.
ReplyDeleteNaging starlet daw yung Andrew
DeleteLet’s not forget Camille’s brother in law is Chiz escudero. A lawyer and a good one. Impossibleng hindi nila na consult si chiz sa issue na yan kaya yung mga nagmamarunong dito, kayo na mas magaling kay chiz.
ReplyDeleteA friend of mine kinasal ng bongga sa church. Nung nag claim sya for support kasi OFW yung asawa waley kasi yung marriage license di napa register or di naisubmit so invalid yung kasal nila. Wala syang habol sa lalaki kundi mga anak lang....So swerte nya na pwede sya magpakasal sa iba
ReplyDeleteThank you to my Aunt. Sobrang thank you, if not for her null and void din siguro yun kasal ko. She was the one who kept reminding me na may deadline yun pag register ng kasal. Ayun naman naayos ko otherwise Kung nakinig ako sa isang relative ng husband ko waley yun kasal namin. Pati din yun birth certificate ng mga anak ganun din dapat iparegister.
ReplyDeletedba if civil wedding mas less hassle na pagregister sa kasal compared sa church wedding?nung kasal ng husband ko civil wedding kami so yung staff ng judge na mismo nag.asikaso pagregister sa kasal namin..after 3months nakuha na namin sa PSA yung wedding cert namin.
ReplyDeleteAng alam ko din.Mas madali compared to the church wedding kasi rekta na.
DeleteI don’t see the big deal here, Filipinos are just being judgmental as usual😑 even if she and her husband are still “technically” married but currently separated and in the process of getting an anullment, they’re both still considered SINGLE and free to date whoever they want! What’s crazy is the fact she’s with Andrew Wolf of all people, especially when her parents were so picky about Heart’s past bfs. Not even Jericho or Chiz were approved but Andrew is....👀
ReplyDeleteJust to make things simple, I think this is what happened:
ReplyDeleteCamille and Martin Rosario got a Marriage License (ML), which valid only for 120 days. This means that the wedding should be performed and the Marriage Contract (MC) should be registered within this period. The couple were so focused on the details of the ceremony and reception (you know, perfect clothes, flowers, music, guest list, etc) that the date set for the wedding could be too close to the end of the validity of the ML or beyond validity date. Then MC was not registered within the 120 day period. Couple tried to “cure” all the documentary requirements, that is, apply for a new ML, ask ninongs/ninangs to sign, etc. In the process, couple were getting into each other’s necks, fighting a lot and then decided to drop everything.
Hence, there was actually NO RECORD of marriage. When you go to Court for Declaration of Nullity of Marriage, your Exhibit A is the Marriage Contract that you want the Court to declare null and void. The decisions will be annotated in the Marriage Contract. Eh NO RECORD nga di ba? What is there to annul?
What they had on Oct 2016 was a great party!
Dear, please go to law school or read up on the family code.
Delete“A marriage is a permanent contractual union between a man and a woman. While there may be circumstances that may render a marriage null and void, the determination thereof does not depend on the parties themselves. Rather, the same must be brought to court and pertinent laws and jurisprudence shall be applied”
@9:05, a)requisite ba ng marriage ang registration sa civil registrar?; b)essential or even formal requisite ba ng marriage ang "marriage contract", san banda sa Family Code ito? c)san banda sa SC Circular on declaration of nullity na dapat "exhibit a" ang marriage contract?
DeleteKasi naka-5 handle na ako ng declaration of nullity at ngayun ko lang yan narinig mga sinasabi mo.
Maybe I am the inferior abogado, educate mo nga ako panyero kung ano mga legal bases mo?
Parang eto lang ang masasabi ko.,bilis ma null and void pag may money pero pag sakto lang dami hiningi na kung anu anong docs
ReplyDelete