Napakarighteous naman kasi ng ibang Christian. Most of them that I know ganyan... Laginh ang bukambibig... C"kasi si ganyan o ganito kaya iba mag-isip." Kami kasing mmga Christian eh ganito, ganyan."
One time may isang grupo ng Christian na kasamahan ko sa work, nagla-Lunch sila at puro praise the Lord ang usapan. After a few hours, nag-uusap sa table sa work, nagwiwish na na saktan yung isa naming kasama sa work.
Tapos may isa pa, iba daw kasi mag-isip silang mga Christian. Christian daw kasi. Pero pag nakatalikod, puro paninira sa mga kasamahan sa work ang ginagawa.
This is what being Miss Universe is all about. Being compassionate to all. This is the very tesson Shamcey Supsup lost in the Miss Universe. She stuck to her moralistic belief which the Miss U judges found divisive.
Exactly. I don't really understand how these seemingly religious peeps use exactly what they believe in to hate. Wala naman tinuro sa new testament na hate gays. Kung meron pls enlighten me. Thanks.
O anong masasabi mo, smith_discoverer sa sagot ni Catriona? Nganga ka, baks...anez? Kabog ka kay Cat. And Baks, wag kang moralista dahil sa words mo pa lang sa tanong mo kay Cat, naaamoy kong LOBO ka rin, Bakz. :-)
I'm a Muslim and I've LGBT friends. Above all else, they're fellow humans, fellow creations. Just because they're different with their orientation and their ways are contrary to one's religious beliefs doesn't mean that you ostracize them and hate them. No. Accept them as they are, because you don't have the right to judge them. The only reason to shun anyone, even your closest kin, is if he/she chooses to live as a criminal.
Why only criminals? Sila nga po Yung dapat mas unawain natin, mas mahalin natin kasi sila yung karaniwang salat dun. Therefore, let's not limit showing love to one another, no excuses.
I'm a Christian too and I'm gay. Jesus' most important commandment: Love God above all and love your neighbour as you love yourself. To be a Christian is to live like Jesus. To be more like Him.
You know that in the bible, abomination ang LGBT? I think hindi ka real Christian. Maybe from another religion that claims to be a Christian but not living a REAL Christian.
8:47 In Old Testament, men who claimed they are representatives of God said that homosexuality is abomination. In the New Testament,it's only Paul who talked about homosexuality as a sin. How about Jesus? Nothing. He's all about love. I'd rather focus on Jesus than become a fundamental holier-than-thou.
Nakakainis yung comments na laging sinsabi yunh sodom and gomorah. The story is about sexual violence and rape, with the men of sodom wanting to rape the two visitors (who Lot protected). The cities were destroyed because of their sexual violence, not because of homosexuality. The bible also said , love your neighbors as yourself. The bible does not address homosexuality directly, and it is ridiculous that you use the bible (which is basically God’s love written) to spew hate. Live and let live. The LGBT want equal rights, hindi naman right to wed in the church ang hanap nila.
Interesting how your brain operates. By her saying do not compromise you took it as hate? Wow! My husband disagrees with me, doesn’t mean he hates me. A parent that tells their kids what is right from wrong, does not equate to hate ...try to process things better and deeper
8:58 AM Yung mga hindi nagkocompromise sa case ng LGBTQ ay actively kinocondemn na iconsider na rights ang mga pinapaglaban nila. Hindi mo pa macoconsider na hate yan? Iyong ituring mo na 2nd class ang isang grupo ng tao at pag deny sa kanila ng ilang karapatan para sa yo disagreement lang? Funny how your brain operates
See there you go! You defined the word compromise by your gold fish thinking. You concluded the statement as an expression of condemnation and taking away right? Geeez, .this world is so full of people who are so good in assuming and actually think they are facts. Truth is you do not know what the commenter exactly mean. As a believer of the gospel, I have a good idea what that means ..it could mean, don’t involve yourself for belief preservation,,, see this issue is heavy doctrinal and is never easy to process.
Anon 1:45 tama ka dyan. Sa Leviticus nila kinukuha ang mga tirada nila against the gays. Yet it is in the same book na bawal kumain ng pork at seafood. Bakit nila hindi sinusunod yun? Selective nga kasi sila.
Agree. And Cat is not compromising, she is actually strengthening her beliefs. While yung commenter na yun ang nagcocompromise ng paniniwala nya sa Diyos by being judgemental and hateful towards other people.
If your religion asks you to hate and attack a group of persons just because your religion is not inclusive then you should start thinking if you are in the right religion. Your own faith and good deeds will bring you your salvation not your religion.
Actually good deeds can Not save you according to fundamentalist Christians. Only Catholics beleive in good deeds. Your acceptance of Christ as your personal saviour is the only thing that will save you.
IAM a Catholic but attending Christian cell group. This is what I cannot understand why they always say acceptance of Christ when we as a Catholic have also accpted Christ just as how they accepted Him.isnt faith in Christ different from accepting Him as a savior? I'm getting lost most of the time coz it feels like there is no real talk with them.
Receiving Christ is a personal decision. Di mo pwede sabihin na parehas lang ang isang grupo kumpara sa isa pa. Dahil personal nga ang pagkakaroon ng relasyon kay Kristo. Siguro ang meaning lang nila ay turo kasi talaga yon sa mga Christians while minsan sa Catholic parang mas highlight ang pagiging mabuti. Pag naka attend ka ng service ng Christian every time they always give chance na mag accept kay Christ pero hindi routine lahat. Remember, being a Christian is not a religion but a personal relationship kaya kung alam mo naming tinanggap mo na siya, wag mo na intindihin yung sinasabi pa nila.
kaway-kaway sa mga kasamahan ko sa Catholic church, ilang beses na din ba kayong na-imbyerna dahil sa pagiging judgemental ng grupo natin? na tipong mapapaisip ka na lang ano bang mas mahalaga, ang pakikipag kapwa-tao or pagiging tama(kuno). haay magulo ang buhay sa earth!
Not all. Even our current Pope is inclusive and tries to correct the errors of the clergy. Maybe the conservative ones like the previous pope are still thinking backwards but as I see today, the Catholic Church is progressing and leaning towards inclusiveness.
She gave the best answer. I can't understand why Christians should hate or look at non-hetero people negatively. Hello, we don't live in the middle ages anymore, how backward is that? God is love, period.
NO! She is just being glorified by MUorg because she is half-white. Muorg obviously don't like pure pinays, they think they're only good for 1st runner-up. BOOOOO MU!
Definitely the best Miss Philippines Universe. Before, I keep thinking ang well thought out ng answers nya and thought she must have been well trained in pageantry. After listening to her interviews I believe it's just really how she is and not pagent-borne. She really raised the bar
What is she really supporting here? Is it for equality so they get equal job opportunities, is it equal human rights? Is it same sex marriage? Is it being admitted in a Christian church, wedding with Christian ceremony? I am a Christian myself and I have problem with the LGBT lifestyle, that doesn’t mean I hate them but I also agree they shouldn’t be treated any less of a human.
Im a Christian and I also have LGBTQAA friends but i am not supporting them joining miss universe..they have many beauty contest to begin with wer they can showcase watever they want but there should also be limitations and boundaries..i know nog related ito sa post but Im just saying..
Love Cat! She speaks from the heart kaya sobrang sincere ng mga sagot. I was rolling my eyes when I went to her post. Ang daming self-righteous people. Your being straight does not automatically make you a good person. PH is what, like the only pre-dominantly Christian country in Asia? Pero ang daming hypocrites, ang daming di sumusunod sa Ten Commandments. So these preachy people should just shush. I have seen a lot of LGBT+ people in Church choirs, attending Church mass and participating in Church activities, and a lot of them are truly good people. We are not God. We are not the ones to judge, nor do we talk on behalf of Him. Kaya all of these bible-thumping talks irritate me. Kailan pa kayo naging spokeperson ng Diyos?
Tama sI Ateng Cat. Eto na nmn po ang mga self righteous bashers/keyboard warriors natin.
ReplyDeleteThis is why I love her. Wala e, matalino, level-headed, beautiful inside and out.
DeleteOf course she grew up in Australia that’s why she’s level headed
DeleteNapakarighteous naman kasi ng ibang Christian. Most of them that I know ganyan... Laginh ang bukambibig... C"kasi si ganyan o ganito kaya iba mag-isip." Kami kasing mmga Christian eh ganito, ganyan."
DeleteOne time may isang grupo ng Christian na kasamahan ko sa work, nagla-Lunch sila at puro praise the Lord ang usapan. After a few hours, nag-uusap sa table sa work, nagwiwish na na saktan yung isa naming kasama sa work.
Tapos may isa pa, iba daw kasi mag-isip silang mga Christian. Christian daw kasi. Pero pag nakatalikod, puro paninira sa mga kasamahan sa work ang ginagawa.
This is what being Miss Universe is all about. Being compassionate to all.
DeleteThis is the very tesson Shamcey Supsup lost in the Miss Universe. She stuck to her moralistic belief which the Miss U judges found divisive.
Grabe ka atey, girl crush kang tunay! So smart and classy without being pageanty or showbiz ang sagot. Ikaw na!
Deleteshe's a real queen.Beauty and brains with her pure heart.
ReplyDeleteAt iyan ang tunay na Kristiano! Salute to you cat!
ReplyDeleteGod is Love. No one can judge anybody except God.
DeleteExactly. I don't really understand how these seemingly religious peeps use exactly what they believe in to hate. Wala naman tinuro sa new testament na hate gays. Kung meron pls enlighten me. Thanks.
DeleteYou mean tunay na Katoliko...
DeleteAnon 5:16 hindi Catholic si Catriona. Evangelical Christian siya.
DeleteO anong masasabi mo, smith_discoverer sa sagot ni Catriona? Nganga ka, baks...anez? Kabog ka kay Cat. And Baks, wag kang moralista dahil sa words mo pa lang sa tanong mo kay Cat, naaamoy kong LOBO ka rin, Bakz. :-)
ReplyDeleteI'm a Muslim and I've LGBT friends. Above all else, they're fellow humans, fellow creations. Just because they're different with their orientation and their ways are contrary to one's religious beliefs doesn't mean that you ostracize them and hate them. No. Accept them as they are, because you don't have the right to judge them. The only reason to shun anyone, even your closest kin, is if he/she chooses to live as a criminal.
ReplyDeleteWhy only criminals? Sila nga po Yung dapat mas unawain natin, mas mahalin natin kasi sila yung karaniwang salat dun. Therefore, let's not limit showing love to one another, no excuses.
DeleteThank you for using the word "accept" instead of "tolerance" which is usually what people do in dealing with lgbt issues.
Delete9:10 I said people who CHOSE to be criminals. I didn't say those who are forced to commit crimes.
DeleteHuh? 8:49 whats the difference?
Deletegosh 1:29 comprehension please para di na mahirapan si 12:25 mag explain
DeleteI'm a Christian too and I'm gay. Jesus' most important commandment: Love God above all and love your neighbour as you love yourself. To be a Christian is to live like Jesus. To be more like Him.
ReplyDelete❤❤❤
DeleteYou know that in the bible, abomination ang LGBT? I think hindi ka real Christian. Maybe from another religion that claims to be a Christian but not living a REAL Christian.
Delete8:47 In Old Testament, men who claimed they are representatives of God said that homosexuality is abomination. In the New Testament,it's only Paul who talked about homosexuality as a sin. How about Jesus? Nothing. He's all about love. I'd rather focus on Jesus than become a fundamental holier-than-thou.
Deletewow. a true queen and good example 😍
ReplyDeleteRooting for you, always, cat ❤️
ReplyDeleteParang sumasagot pa ren sya sa QandA ng Ms. U
ReplyDeleteI think it’s not just about the best answer, but because of who she is in her core being.
DeleteShe always speaks from the heart. Period!
DeleteIt only shows na sincere ang mga sagot nya.
DeleteWow, i really admire her beauty, but most of all is her wit and heart.. best queen ever!
ReplyDeleteNakakainis yung comments na laging sinsabi yunh sodom and gomorah. The story is about sexual violence and rape, with the men of sodom wanting to rape the two visitors (who Lot protected). The cities were destroyed because of their sexual violence, not because of homosexuality. The bible also said , love your neighbors as yourself. The bible does not address homosexuality directly, and it is ridiculous that you use the bible (which is basically God’s love written) to spew hate. Live and let live. The LGBT want equal rights, hindi naman right to wed in the church ang hanap nila.
ReplyDeleteInteresting how your brain operates. By her saying do not compromise you took it as hate? Wow! My husband disagrees with me, doesn’t mean he hates me. A parent that tells their kids what is right from wrong, does not equate to hate ...try to process things better and deeper
DeleteAmg selective din naman ng ginagamit nila from the bible. Ang daming nakasulat sa bible na di na sinusunod ngayun.
Delete8:58 AM Yung mga hindi nagkocompromise sa case ng LGBTQ ay actively kinocondemn na iconsider na rights ang mga pinapaglaban nila. Hindi mo pa macoconsider na hate yan? Iyong ituring mo na 2nd class ang isang grupo ng tao at pag deny sa kanila ng ilang karapatan para sa yo disagreement lang? Funny how your brain operates
DeleteSee there you go! You defined the word compromise by your gold fish thinking. You concluded the statement as an expression of condemnation and taking away right? Geeez, .this world is so full of people who are so good in assuming and actually think they are facts. Truth is you do not know what the commenter exactly mean. As a believer of the gospel, I have a good idea what that means ..it could mean, don’t involve yourself for belief preservation,,, see this issue is heavy doctrinal and is never easy to process.
DeleteAnon 1:45 tama ka dyan. Sa Leviticus nila kinukuha ang mga tirada nila against the gays. Yet it is in the same book na bawal kumain ng pork at seafood. Bakit nila hindi sinusunod yun? Selective nga kasi sila.
DeleteMadami pa nga 10:45, at napakaabsurd ng ibang laws and rules na kung susundin ngayun e nakasisiguro ako na ikakukulo ng dugo ng mga feminists.
DeleteCat, ikaw na talaga. You explained it so well!
ReplyDeleteNakakainis lang yung “do not compromise.” How does loving everyone equally compromise one’s belief? 🙄
ReplyDeleteAgree. And Cat is not compromising, she is actually strengthening her beliefs. While yung commenter na yun ang nagcocompromise ng paniniwala nya sa Diyos by being judgemental and hateful towards other people.
DeleteIf your religion asks you to hate and attack a group of persons just because your religion is not inclusive then you should start thinking if you are in the right religion. Your own faith and good deeds will bring you your salvation not your religion.
ReplyDeleteActually good deeds can Not save you according to fundamentalist Christians. Only Catholics beleive in good deeds.
DeleteYour acceptance of Christ as your personal saviour is the only thing that will save you.
IAM a Catholic but attending Christian cell group. This is what I cannot understand why they always say acceptance of Christ when we as a Catholic have also accpted Christ just as how they accepted Him.isnt faith in Christ different from accepting Him as a savior? I'm getting lost most of the time coz it feels like there is no real talk with them.
DeleteReceiving Christ is a personal decision. Di mo pwede sabihin na parehas lang ang isang grupo kumpara sa isa pa. Dahil personal nga ang pagkakaroon ng relasyon kay Kristo. Siguro ang meaning lang nila ay turo kasi talaga yon sa mga Christians while minsan sa Catholic parang mas highlight ang pagiging mabuti. Pag naka attend ka ng service ng Christian every time they always give chance na mag accept kay Christ pero hindi routine lahat. Remember, being a Christian is not a religion but a personal relationship kaya kung alam mo naming tinanggap mo na siya, wag mo na intindihin yung sinasabi pa nila.
DeleteAnd the ms. Universe is.....
ReplyDeleteang galing niya talaga magdeliver ng message noh
ReplyDeleteCan we just crown her every year please?
ReplyDeletepti pag sagot pang miss u pa dn..♥️♥️♥️♥️
ReplyDeletekaway-kaway sa mga kasamahan ko sa Catholic church, ilang beses na din ba kayong na-imbyerna dahil sa pagiging judgemental ng grupo natin? na tipong mapapaisip ka na lang ano bang mas mahalaga, ang pakikipag kapwa-tao or pagiging tama(kuno). haay magulo ang buhay sa earth!
ReplyDeleteNot all. Even our current Pope is inclusive and tries to correct the errors of the clergy. Maybe the conservative ones like the previous pope are still thinking backwards but as I see today, the Catholic Church is progressing and leaning towards inclusiveness.
Deleteactually the Catholic Church is more accepting of the LGBTQ community more than some Christians. Even Pope Francis addressed the issue regarding this.
Delete2:33, 3:11 As Expected Of them.
DeleteMay nanalo na....ulit! Pak!
ReplyDeleteSi Cat talaga yung kahit isabak mo sa mga international interviews di ka kakabahan. Palaban si gurl.
ReplyDeleteVery good answer. That is why you are the best Ms U, Catriona Gray.
ReplyDeleteLove!!
ReplyDeleteDami niyo hanash. Kung hindi gusto and LGBT may hanash, kung sinusupport hanash ano ba talaga
ReplyDeleteShe gave the best answer. I can't understand why Christians should hate or look at non-hetero people negatively. Hello, we don't live in the middle ages anymore, how backward is that? God is love, period.
ReplyDeleteHost: how many miss u answers you can deliver during your reign?
ReplyDeleteCat: yes!
Ang galing ng sagot nya. Walang paligoy ligoy. Ako jan, mahabang silence. Hahaha
ReplyDeleteCatriona is the best Ms U Phil has ever produced
ReplyDeleteha? any contestant that represented us is the Best Ms. U in her own right. kung mkataaa k nmn ng isang tao at feeling mo lesser na yung iba
Delete11:09 whatever, Catriona IS the best Miss Universe Philippines. Next!
DeleteNO! She is just being glorified by MUorg because she is half-white. Muorg obviously don't like pure pinays, they think they're only good for 1st runner-up. BOOOOO MU!
DeleteCatriona indeed deserves the universe!
ReplyDeleteI read it with Cat's voice in mind😊 Our true queen😍
ReplyDeleteDefinitely the best Miss Philippines Universe. Before, I keep thinking ang well thought out ng answers nya and thought she must have been well trained in pageantry. After listening to her interviews I believe it's just really how she is and not pagent-borne.
ReplyDeleteShe really raised the bar
Well said... God is love... not divisiveness
ReplyDeleteAre you sure?
DeleteWhat is she really supporting here? Is it for equality so they get equal job opportunities, is it equal human rights? Is it same sex marriage? Is it being admitted in a Christian church, wedding with Christian ceremony? I am a Christian myself and I have problem with the LGBT lifestyle, that doesn’t mean I hate them but I also agree they shouldn’t be treated any less of a human.
DeleteWe don’t have the right to judge. It’s between God and them.
ReplyDeleteAnd I thank you!
ReplyDeleteSelf-righteous Christians are the worst. They read the Bible, but how many of them can actually practice what they preach? Spread love!
ReplyDeleteI think you're not reading your bible either :)
DeleteNakakaloka ang pagka eloquent nya.. Q&A levels pa rin ang sagutan.. hahaha napakagaling
ReplyDeleteIm a Christian and I also have LGBTQAA friends but i am not supporting them joining miss universe..they have many beauty contest to begin with wer they can showcase watever they want but there should also be limitations and boundaries..i know nog related ito sa post but Im just saying..
ReplyDeleteCat is the epitome of class, beauty, and intelligence above all. Galing ng queen!
ReplyDeleteThe commenter just showed the bigotry and discriminatory ways of her religion.
ReplyDeletepls educate me, ano po yung QIA na idinagdag sa LGBT? no need to be sarcastic po, nagtatanong lang
ReplyDeleteQueer, Intersex and Asexual. Ginoogle ko yung I sa QIA kasi d ko alam.
DeleteNaku syempre ganyan pa rin sagot niya. Sana Yung sincere at hindi pang publicity for once.
ReplyDeleteBavo Cat👏👏👏
ReplyDeleteYou are truly Queen in every sense of the word.
Can we crown her again and again?
UMAY NA UMAY NA AKO SA TOPIC NA YAN! LAGI LANG NAG-AAWAY ANG LAHAT DAHIL SA TOPIC NA YAN!
ReplyDeleteKaluluwa at paniniwala kasi involve.
DeleteThat’s why politics and/or religion is never a good topic for conversation in social lunches and dinners unless all share the same beliefs.
DeleteI think she just won the Ms Universe pageant again with that answer haha
ReplyDeletei am not religious so why do i care kung accepted ako ng mga religious groups? u need to find peace within urself, huwag sa ibang tao or groups.
ReplyDeleteMalamang Yan ang isasagot niya. Sino bang mga fans niya?
ReplyDeleteLove Cat! She speaks from the heart kaya sobrang sincere ng mga sagot. I was rolling my eyes when I went to her post. Ang daming self-righteous people. Your being straight does not automatically make you a good person. PH is what, like the only pre-dominantly Christian country in Asia? Pero ang daming hypocrites, ang daming di sumusunod sa Ten Commandments. So these preachy people should just shush. I have seen a lot of LGBT+ people in Church choirs, attending Church mass and participating in Church activities, and a lot of them are truly good people. We are not God. We are not the ones to judge, nor do we talk on behalf of Him. Kaya all of these bible-thumping talks irritate me. Kailan pa kayo naging spokeperson ng Diyos?
ReplyDeleteAko lang ba nagbasa nun sagot ni Cat na parang sumasagot sa Q&A portion? :)
ReplyDeletebakit ba lagi need supportahan iyan? wala namang nangingielam sakanila eh. justsaying
ReplyDelete