..of course not!as long as kinasal kayo,legit pa rin mga anak ninyo..but cant say the same sa mga kinasal na dineklarang null and void from the start..
sa mga of course not ng of course not dyan as if sure na sure kayo, qlamin nyo muna ang Family Code! Illigimate ang anak pag annulled ang kasal. Iba ang Annulment sa divorce. Annulment is null and void right from the start ang marriage while divorce is may bisa pero ipapawalang bisa. The only reason na di ma-illigimate ang anak ay pag "psych icapacitated" ang reason. Reasearch muna uy!
4:53 ikaw ang mag research! ..hindi illegitimate ang mga anak sa annulled na kasal as long as legal ang kasal nila sa simula..pero kung ang kasal is declared as void ab initio,yun ang illegitimate..pag annulled,meaning legal ang kasal ninyo sa simula dahil sinunod nyo ang requirements..pero kung may mali sa kasal ninyo sa simula pa lang,gay ng hindi authorized ang nagkasal sa inyo, ay hindi kailangang ipa annul! ipa void nyo lang yan at illegitimate ang mga anak ninyo,sorry.. ..hindi ako law grad,pero nakakuha ako ng ilang units sa law..
4:53 ikaw ang mag research! ..there are two types of marriage, valid marriage and void marriage ..ang valid marriage ay annulment ang paraan para null and void,but the children are still considered legitimate after the annulment coz the marriage is valid from the beginning..this means na comply nila ang requisites sa marriage ..on the other hand,ang void marriage ay invalid na sa simula pa lang..hindi kailangan ng annulment,simple lang ang processing para ma void..ex. kris aquino’s marriage to james yap..one reason sa void marriage ay married ang isang party sa iba..in this case,illegitimate ang mga anak.. ..gets mo?
children who were born to a marriage that was later declared void due to the psychological incapacity of one or both of the spouses under Art. 36 of the Family Code are still considered legitimate
Hindi po. One of the exceptions po ang ganitong case. Under Family Relations po children conceived or born during the existence of a valid marriage are legitimate (will remain be) even after annulment under Art 36
Of course they’re legitimate. They were married to each other when the children were conceived and born. Annulment won’t affect the legitimacy of the children. Check Article 54, Family Code of the Philippines.
Kindly correct me if im wrong there's declration of nullity of marriage and theres annulement Declaration of nullity, yun yung null and void from the start ang marriage for reasons such as below 18 and walang consent, no marriage license, fake documents etc etc so if this is the case its as if no marriage took place Annulment on the other hand valid ang kasal but you want to void it once granted the marriage will be void pero may record pa din ng kasal and as for the children they will remain legitimate since they were born during a valid marriage.
It depends on the grounds of the annulment. If the annulment was caused by declaring a marriage as void ab initio (ie bigamous marriages), then children will be considered as illegitimate. However, if a marriage was valid but was just nullified on the grounds stated in our family code, then they are still considered legitimate.
Kapag ang ground ng annulment ay Psychological Incapacity, children born under that marriage are considered legitimate. Kung hindi naman yun ang ground, illegitimate sila. For example, bigamous marriage o kaya ikinasal sila at the age of below 18 regardless kung may consent pa ng parents. Ganon.
Tama si 12.28. Depende sa ground ng annulment yan. It depends if inallege ba niya na ground falls within void marriages or one of those under voidable marriages. Kapag void, general rule is illegitimate sila except if the ground alleged is psychological incapacity o kaya hindi mo naparecord yung judicial declaration of nullity of previous marriage mo then nag asawa ka ulit, void ang second marriage mo nun under Art 53 of the Family Code dahil nga hindi mo naparecord yung judicial declaration aforementioned, regardless yung anak mo sa second marriage ay legitimate padin. Pero pag yung ground na inallege is under voidable marriages, legitimate padin ang anak mo kahit walang bisa na ang kasal.
Legitimacy is the status of children born to parents who were legally married to each other at the time of the child's birth or a child conceived before the parents obtained annulment
Ngayon at annulled na sila, Anong rights mayroon yung mga anak nila Sunshine sa kayamanan ng Tatay nila? Under the law po, ano pong rights nila? Maaapektohan po ba yung dating agreement tungkol sa sustento ng mga bata? O libre na si Cesar dahil nga annulled na sila ni Sunshine?
depende sa ruling ng korte. may mga decision na sinasabi na hindi illegitimate ang mga bata, and that they will continue carrying their father's name and all rights of legitimate children. i should know, i am a product of annulment. ;)
10:24PM sa kasal mas appropriate na sabihin sa bride ay Best Wishes, sa groom ang congratulations. But sa divorce or annulment, kung sinong nagpetition, kapag nagrant na, sasabihan na ng congratulations. Wala lang, mema lang.
I don't know why God was even mentioned in one's dissolution of marriage? Because I believe that when God is in the marriage in the first place, it will not break apart.
Don't judge couples whose marriages did not work. It does not automatically mean that God was not in their relationship. It happens. For A LOT of reasons.
Dont be judgemental about people wanting to nullify a marriage. They have reasons that we know nothing about. When people separate, it doesnt mean that God is not at center of their relationship. Sometimes someone needs to get out of a marriage to keep their self respect and sanity but I am sure they still believe in God.
Agree, 11:26. Maka-Diyos ako pero I am pro-divorce. Mahirap kasi nakatali kung hindi na talaga pwede, but it does not mean na God is not the center of their marriage kaya nagkaganoon. Maraming factor at hindi natin naiintindihan kasi wala naman tayo sa buhay nila. I am still married though.
True mas matagal lang ang process at mas mahal lalo sa catholic church one reason why church don't want divorce but allow annulment mawawala ang kita nila
Ang ibig nya sabihin, kahit valid marriages naman inaannul. Annulment is only for marriages invalid in the first place, not for dissolution of real and valid ones
mahirap , matagal at mahal magpa annul. But let's not be a hypocrite here, maraming tao nag hiwalay na pero hindi nga lang legal or annulled dahil sa kamahalan nito pero technically they have been separated for the longest time.
It doesn’t matter whether the kids becomes illegitimate or whatever . That’s not really an issue. It’s the toxic marriage and the Narcissist father thats always been the problem . The kids are fine even without their biological father , it’s not always about blood . They will probably experience more love , care and respect from Sunshine’s new bf than their own father would ever give them . Let them be , they all deserve to be happy . They’re better off not being connected to their deadbeat father in any way .
I can imagine the pain she went through with buboy. Tapos may mga sawsawera pang "doll-y". Huge congrats to you Shine! You are the very definition of an empowered woman
nope, sa Estado po ang annulment. Kung katoliko ka naman aside from your legal annulment pwede ka din magfile for Vatican annulment kung gusto mong makasal ulit sa church pero hindi ito ibibigay sa iyo hanggat hindi ka annulled sa korte.
9:08 so wrong. iba pa ang annulment sa simbahan. mas madugo and tama si 1:37 kailangan mo yan if you want to get married again in church. kaya most annulled people when they remarry sa huwes na lang, di na sa church kasi mahirap ung annulment sa church. my marriage was annulled 5 yrs ago that's how I know
Yes at Coconut Palace. Nanghihinayang ako kay Shine because the guy was already a known philanderer. It’s even obvious in the parents’ faces they don’t approved. Oh well it happened and at least it’s annuled.
Raymart Santiago, Keemped DL, Tonton G mga masugid nyang manliligaw. Gen exer here. Lol! First bf nya si cesar kaya nabaliw din sa kanya at di na sya tinantanan. Kasal agad!
legitimacy is also important. Hindi naman sa usapan ng kadugo pero ito ay upang protektahan ang mga karapatan ng mga anak under the family code. More on legal rights, like property etc etc.
When will they allow divorce in the Philippines? Obviously, some marriages don't last and divorce can't be worse than bigamy or annulment..both of which are commonplace nowadays. Besides, a lot of granted petitions for annulment had no real grounds for such..just takes longer and costs more financially and emotionally.
She deserves to be happy too. Marrying for the second time around is not bad, thats her choice & if that makes her complete-why not di ba? But then again, we shouldnt criticize her for doing so as CM had/have been into several girls already even when they are still together. But happy for her, at least nakawala na sia sa stress nia sa buhay.
6.03 Te, di ako OA. Sa annulment cases, may interest ang State due to its duty to preserve the sanctity of marriage. It is represented by SolGen then ang SolGen idedelegate sa prosecutors to represent the State. Kada hearing sa annulment, present ang prosecutor. Kaya pwede i appeal ng prosecutor or SolGen yan lalo na pag nakarating sa Court of Appeals and/or Supreme Court ang appeal. Abogado ako teh huwag kang ano diyan. Basa basa din. Libre Google.
So, does the annulment make the children illegitimate?
ReplyDeleteWala naman nang difference sa rights and legitimate at illegitimate children so ok lang siguro
Delete..of course not!as long as kinasal kayo,legit pa rin mga anak ninyo..but cant say the same sa mga kinasal na dineklarang null and void from the start..
DeleteOf course not!
DeleteMalaki po ang difference ng rights ng legitimate at illegitimate. But annulment of marriage will not make legitimate children illegitimate.
Deletekung hindi kasal ang parents,illegitimate sa anak.
Deletepero kung naghiwalay ganun parin ang mga anak. illegitimate para sa mga hindi kasal. kung naghiwalay anak parin.
Deletesa mga of course not ng of course not dyan as if sure na sure kayo, qlamin nyo muna ang Family Code! Illigimate ang anak pag annulled ang kasal. Iba ang Annulment sa divorce. Annulment is null and void right from the start ang marriage while divorce is may bisa pero ipapawalang bisa. The only reason na di ma-illigimate ang anak ay pag "psych icapacitated" ang reason. Reasearch muna uy!
DeleteNo since dala pa rin ng kids ang pangalan ni Cesar sa birth certificate.
Deleteof course illigitimate kasi null and void ang kasal. walang kasalang naganap. they are conceive out of marriage.
DeleteThe kids were born WITHIN the marriage, so they're not illegitimate even if the parents got annulled, you idi*t.
Delete3:25 at 5:15 no
Delete4:53 ikaw ang mag research!
Delete..hindi illegitimate ang mga anak sa annulled na kasal as long as legal ang kasal nila sa simula..pero kung ang kasal is declared as void ab initio,yun ang illegitimate..pag annulled,meaning legal ang kasal ninyo sa simula dahil sinunod nyo ang requirements..pero kung may mali sa kasal ninyo sa simula pa lang,gay ng hindi authorized ang nagkasal sa inyo, ay hindi kailangang ipa annul! ipa void nyo lang yan at illegitimate ang mga anak ninyo,sorry..
..hindi ako law grad,pero nakakuha ako ng ilang units sa law..
no, bec the children were born while the parents were married.
Delete4:53 mejo na enlighten aq ng slight grabe nung law subjects nmn nung college tulaley tlg aq s sobrang litong lito huhu
Delete4:53 ikaw ang mag research!
Delete..there are two types of marriage, valid marriage and void marriage
..ang valid marriage ay annulment ang paraan para null and void,but the children are still considered legitimate after the annulment coz the marriage is valid from the beginning..this means na comply nila ang requisites sa marriage
..on the other hand,ang void marriage ay invalid na sa simula pa lang..hindi kailangan ng annulment,simple lang ang processing para ma void..ex. kris aquino’s marriage to james yap..one reason sa void marriage ay married ang isang party sa iba..in this case,illegitimate ang mga anak..
..gets mo?
true depende sa grounds
Deletechildren who were born to a marriage that was later declared void due to the psychological incapacity of one or both of the spouses under Art. 36 of the Family Code are still considered legitimate
DeleteHindi po. One of the exceptions po ang ganitong case. Under Family Relations po children conceived or born during the existence of a valid marriage are legitimate (will remain be) even after annulment under Art 36
DeleteOf course they’re legitimate. They were married to each other when the children were conceived and born. Annulment won’t affect the legitimacy of the children. Check Article 54, Family Code of the Philippines.
DeleteKindly correct me if im wrong there's declration of nullity of marriage and theres annulement
DeleteDeclaration of nullity, yun yung null and void from the start ang marriage for reasons such as below 18 and walang consent, no marriage license, fake documents etc etc so if this is the case its as if no marriage took place
Annulment on the other hand valid ang kasal but you want to void it once granted the marriage will be void pero may record pa din ng kasal and as for the children they will remain legitimate since they were born during a valid marriage.
It depends on the grounds of the annulment. If the annulment was caused by declaring a marriage as void ab initio (ie bigamous marriages), then children will be considered as illegitimate. However, if a marriage was valid but was just nullified on the grounds stated in our family code, then they are still considered legitimate.
Deletekaya dapat may divorce. hindi ung hindi na magkasundo, ipapaannul, pati legitimacy ng mga bata apektado.
DeleteKapag ang ground ng annulment ay Psychological Incapacity, children born under that marriage are considered legitimate. Kung hindi naman yun ang ground, illegitimate sila. For example, bigamous marriage o kaya ikinasal sila at the age of below 18 regardless kung may consent pa ng parents. Ganon.
DeleteTama si 12.28. Depende sa ground ng annulment yan. It depends if inallege ba niya na ground falls within void marriages or one of those under voidable marriages. Kapag void, general rule is illegitimate sila except if the ground alleged is psychological incapacity o kaya hindi mo naparecord yung judicial declaration of nullity of previous marriage mo then nag asawa ka ulit, void ang second marriage mo nun under Art 53 of the Family Code dahil nga hindi mo naparecord yung judicial declaration aforementioned, regardless yung anak mo sa second marriage ay legitimate padin. Pero pag yung ground na inallege is under voidable marriages, legitimate padin ang anak mo kahit walang bisa na ang kasal.
Deleteyes correct 12:28 depende talaga sa grounds. Pag illegitimate pwede nyang ampunin.
DeleteLegitimacy is the status of children born to parents who were legally married to each other at the time of the child's birth or a child conceived before the parents obtained annulment
DeleteKailangan mong ampunin ang sarili mong anak kapag illegitmate? Ano'ng klaseng batas iyan?
DeleteNgayon at annulled na sila, Anong rights mayroon yung mga anak nila Sunshine sa kayamanan ng Tatay nila? Under the law po, ano pong rights nila? Maaapektohan po ba yung dating agreement tungkol sa sustento ng mga bata? O libre na si Cesar dahil nga annulled na sila ni Sunshine?
Deletedepende sa ruling ng korte. may mga decision na sinasabi na hindi illegitimate ang mga bata, and that they will continue carrying their father's name and all rights of legitimate children. i should know, i am a product of annulment. ;)
Deletewow congratulations for sunshine! ilang years nya din to hinintay.
ReplyDeleteso if annulled na, null and void and kasal meaning walang kasal na naganap, pano na ang support sa mga kids na pinaglalaban niya?
Deleteiba pa yon. Pero ke annulled o hindi karapatan pa rin nila na suportahan ng tatay nila until they are of legal age.
DeletePag ikinakasal Congrarulations.
DeletePag na-grant ang annullment Congratulations din. LOL!
10:24PM sa kasal mas appropriate na sabihin sa bride ay Best Wishes, sa groom ang congratulations. But sa divorce or annulment, kung sinong nagpetition, kapag nagrant na, sasabihan na ng congratulations. Wala lang, mema lang.
DeleteCongratulations!
ReplyDeleteI don't know why God was even mentioned in one's dissolution of marriage? Because I believe that when God is in the marriage in the first place, it will not break apart.
ReplyDeleteOk teh
DeleteDon't judge couples whose marriages did not work. It does not automatically mean that God was not in their relationship. It happens. For A LOT of reasons.
DeleteDont be judgemental about people wanting to nullify a marriage. They have reasons that we know nothing about. When people separate, it doesnt mean that God is not at center of their relationship. Sometimes someone needs to get out of a marriage to keep their self respect and sanity but I am sure they still believe in God.
DeleteAgree, 11:26. Maka-Diyos ako pero I am pro-divorce. Mahirap kasi nakatali kung hindi na talaga pwede, but it does not mean na God is not the center of their marriage kaya nagkaganoon. Maraming factor at hindi natin naiintindihan kasi wala naman tayo sa buhay nila. I am still married though.
DeleteFor some it is God's way of saving you out from harm
DeleteWe are not perfect.
Deletewe commit mistake.
and our God is a merciful and forgiving God.
who are you to judge.
congratulations shine <3, prayers talaga is important.
ReplyDeleteFinally! Nakakawala ka na!Congratulations Shine!
ReplyDeleteOn the grounds of? Sa pinas parang ginagawang divorce nadin ang annulment.
ReplyDeleteTrue mas matagal lang ang process at mas mahal lalo sa catholic church one reason why church don't want divorce but allow annulment mawawala ang kita nila
Deletenot true. mine was just denied.
Deleteon the grounds that they have enough money to pay the exhorbitant fees of an annulment
DeleteHindi na lang i-legalize ang divorce sa Pilipinas para kept lahat ng rights ng anak. Pang-mayaman lang ang annulment.
DeleteHindi rin. Kung divorce yan e di sana di na gagastos ng mahal at maghihintay ng matagal para lang maannul.
DeleteYes, ginagawang divorce ang annulment sa Pilipinas minus all the rights of those involved.
DeleteHindi naman. Kapag divorce, mas mabilis. Hehe. Chos lang, ala akong alam. Basta alam ko ang tagal na din nito. Haha.
Delete@9:51pm, obviously missing the point lol
DeleteAng ibig nya sabihin, kahit valid marriages naman inaannul. Annulment is only for marriages invalid in the first place, not for dissolution of real and valid ones
mahirap , matagal at mahal magpa annul. But let's not be a hypocrite here, maraming tao nag hiwalay na pero hindi nga lang legal or annulled dahil sa kamahalan nito pero technically they have been separated for the longest time.
Delete@12:43 "declaration of nullity" yata yung ineexplain mo.. Different yan sa "annulment"
DeleteYung mga mayaman at may connections lang usually ang nakakakuha.
DeleteCongrats!!!
ReplyDeleteIt doesn’t matter whether the kids becomes illegitimate or whatever . That’s not really an issue. It’s the toxic marriage and the Narcissist father thats always been the problem . The kids are fine even without their biological father , it’s not always about blood . They will probably experience more love , care and respect from Sunshine’s new bf than their own father would ever give them . Let them be , they all deserve to be happy . They’re better off not being connected to their deadbeat father in any way .
ReplyDeleteNatatandaan ko dati ilang beses pa silang nagpakasal ni cesar.
ReplyDeleteI can imagine the pain she went through with buboy. Tapos may mga sawsawera pang "doll-y". Huge congrats to you Shine! You are the very definition of an empowered woman
ReplyDeleteAyan magiging okay na at accepted na yung mga eksenang PDA ni sunshine at bf mya...congrats!
ReplyDeleteAnnulment sa simbahan lang yan ano ba? Kaya legitimate pa rin ang mga bata!
ReplyDeletenope, sa Estado po ang annulment. Kung katoliko ka naman aside from your legal annulment pwede ka din magfile for Vatican annulment kung gusto mong makasal ulit sa church pero hindi ito ibibigay sa iyo hanggat hindi ka annulled sa korte.
Delete9:08 so wrong. iba pa ang annulment sa simbahan. mas madugo and tama si 1:37 kailangan mo yan if you want to get married again in church. kaya most annulled people when they remarry sa huwes na lang, di na sa church kasi mahirap ung annulment sa church. my marriage was annulled 5 yrs ago that's how I know
Deletegrabe nalala ko yung kasal nila sa cocnut palace ba yun?
ReplyDeleteoo sobrang laki at engrande ng kasal ni Shine. Pero ganun talaga ang buhay.
DeleteYes at Coconut Palace. Nanghihinayang ako kay Shine because the guy was already a known philanderer. It’s even obvious in the parents’ faces they don’t approved. Oh well it happened and at least it’s annuled.
Deletealam mo naman when you're young and in love.
DeleteKapag bata ka pa talaga, ang mga decisions ay very impulsive most of the time.
DeleteYoung and in love si shine nun. First boyfriend pa si cm. Hay. At least tapos na.
Delete9:22 naging sila ni Tonton Gutierrez bago si Montano
Delete9:22 nanligaw lang yun. Na interview sya dun. Pero nahurt si tonton at nagpa tattoo pa sa chest ng name ni sunshine. Tanda ko at masundan ko yan haha.
DeleteRaymart Santiago, Keemped DL, Tonton G mga masugid nyang manliligaw. Gen exer here. Lol! First bf nya si cesar kaya nabaliw din sa kanya at di na sya tinantanan. Kasal agad!
DeleteAn offspring is an offspring no matter what. No piece of paper should dictate the legitimacy of children.
ReplyDeletelegitimacy is also important. Hindi naman sa usapan ng kadugo pero ito ay upang protektahan ang mga karapatan ng mga anak under the family code. More on legal rights, like property etc etc.
DeleteSa Pilipinas kasi iba ang rights ng legitimate sa illegitimate children. Third world thinking.
Deletecorrect! 5:39 mas maliit ang makukuha ng illegitimate children pagdating sa properties.
DeleteCongrats Shine.
ReplyDeleteWhen will they allow divorce in the Philippines? Obviously, some marriages don't last and divorce can't be worse than bigamy or annulment..both of which are commonplace nowadays. Besides, a lot of granted petitions for annulment had no real grounds for such..just takes longer and costs more financially and emotionally.
ReplyDeletevote for smart public officials for congress and senatorial seats to pass on divorce bill.
Deleteactually it is a tedious process here in the Philippines aside from being very expensive.
DeleteWalang divorce kasi iwas sa spousal and child support.
DeleteAyan shine pwde ka na talagang umastang dalaga para legit pampapabebe mo sa bf mo
ReplyDeletenow lets move on to her 2nd marriage
ReplyDeleteShe deserves to be happy too. Marrying for the second time around is not bad, thats her choice & if that makes her complete-why not di ba? But then again, we shouldnt criticize her for doing so as CM had/have been into several girls already even when they are still together. But happy for her, at least nakawala na sia sa stress nia sa buhay.
DeleteNaku, huwag muna magsaya. Pwede pa i MR, or i-appeal ng SolGen yan. Pray ka nalang na magfinal and executory ang judgment.
ReplyDeleteOa mo. SolGen only represents the government.
Delete6.03 Te, di ako OA. Sa annulment cases, may interest ang State due to its duty to preserve the sanctity of marriage. It is represented by SolGen then ang SolGen idedelegate sa prosecutors to represent the State. Kada hearing sa annulment, present ang prosecutor. Kaya pwede i appeal ng prosecutor or SolGen yan lalo na pag nakarating sa Court of Appeals and/or Supreme Court ang appeal. Abogado ako teh huwag kang ano diyan. Basa basa din. Libre Google.
Deletecorrect, pero I don't think gusto ito paabutin ng both parties sa supreme court. Nag move on na sila obviously.
Deletecongrats!ako kaya kailan pa?hays
ReplyDeletekunin mo lawyer niya baks 1:18
Deletemag file ka muna baks.
DeleteCongrats to Sunshine on her freedom.
ReplyDeleteFinally! the freedom that she deserves. Congratulations!
ReplyDeleteFreedom from what, may bf siya di ba?
DeleteSingle parin kahit may boyfie. she can choose to separate if she wants to. Wala ng tali! Iba kase kapag kasal talaga.
DeleteHahahaha....she is still using her old picture from years ago when she show was younger. So vain, shallow and pretentious.
ReplyDeleteThat’s good for Cesar too, he doesn’t need to support her anymore.
ReplyDeleteHe still has to support the kids though.
DeleteI don’t think he supported shine or may spousal support ever. Mga anak nga di masuportahan ng maayos, si shine pa kaya???
Delete6:33 true
Deletepag mga artista at matataas ang posisyon sa society ambilis ng proseso, pero sa mga ordinaryong tao sobrang tagal.
ReplyDelete4 na taon din inabot meaning nagtagal din.
Deletedi ako artista or has connections, our annulment took just over a year. depende sa case naman at kung magaling ang lawyers
Delete10:21 on what grounds? Swerte mo te ako 3 years na waley pa huhu! May pamilya na ang ex ko hay.
DeleteBUTI PA tong si sunshine! Sana ma pasa na ang divorce bill para sa mga taong gusto kumawala at maka kawala!
ReplyDeleteApat na taon din pala beshy! Pinagtyagaan nya talaga. Now she’s free! Wooot!
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