You are right. It’s all about production value and a good movie need to have the right budget. The right actors who can act, set, music, script, storyline, execution, wardrobe, good editing, cinematography, promotion, etc.
Yes, with not enough budget, the can’t make good quality movies in pinas. Indies are very cheap to make and have the imotional tug for the international critics.
yan din ang tanong ko! Puros na lang kahirapan at drugs at basura ang theme ng mga indie movie na pinapadala sa mga international film festival. Oo alam ko na it's reality pero hinid lang naman yun ang reality sa Pilipinas. Nakakahiya isip tuloy ng mga ibang lahi ganon sa Pilipinas everywhere you go at lahat tayo dugyot.
Ewan ko pero napaka ordinary ng story ng movie. Hindi ganitong klase ng movie ang gusto ng Hollywood. Matagal pa bago masundan uli. Katulad ng Joyluck club.
Pareho tayo baks kahit ako di ako nagandahan sa movie, rich guy and poor girl dami nyan sa mga asian serye, extravagant version nga lang yon production nila. Atchaka distracting din yon pagkacrossed eye ni constance wu.
IMO the love story is a guise. The book aims to show the lifestyle (and perhaps make fun?) of the really rich Chinese families specifically in SG. Read a comment before that the characters were inspired by real people and that feathers were ruffled when the book first came out.
akala tuloy ng mga tiga ibang bansa na clueless o hindi pa nakarating dito that Philippines is so Filthy, panget at mabaho , slums lahat ng tirahan ng mga tao.
Yun 7 Sundays or parang Tanging Yaman or Magnifico type of movies Sana. Gastusan pa para mas lalong pulido yun storya at gawa. Hindi believable Kung puro yayamanin ipapakita. Yun mga values ba like family and faith na malakas sa atin bilang mga Filipino Sana yun naman.
We have a surplus of romcoms that highlight pinoy culture. Favorite nga ng star cinema yun. Pero di lang talaga bumebenta sa ibang bansa at sa totoo lang, di rin kabentabenta.
Recycled ang mga storylines at wala din ka kwenta2x. If di madiliin baka. Kaso shooting sila ngayon, next month showing na. Gustong kumita agad kaya strategy nila, kunin yung mga sikat. Kahit bano ang acting at pangit ang story, sure silang kumita cz of their fans na paulit-ulit nanuod to achieve blockbuster success.
Para sa pinas lang yan. Kahit ano pwede na. Not good enough for international audience. International audience are much more sophisticated. Pinas movies are too obvious and manipulative - corny scenarios, too loud, too noisy, OA acting, too emotional, recycled stories, etc.
Let’s face it, hindi naman talaga tinatangkilik yung mga movies tungkol sa drugs, patayan, barilan, kahirapan. Kung gusto makipagsabayan ng Pilipinas magfocus na lang sa love stories at romcoms. Kita mo Korea, Taiwan and China sobrang popular sila sa romcoms and love stories nila. Kahit na may language barrier talagang pinapanood kahit ng ibang nationalities kasi magaganda talaga.
i think most are missing the point - it's quality that counts para mapansin ang pinoy films internationally. hindi kesyo negative or positive ang image ng pinas sa movie.
Exactly. Yang mga K-drama na yan kaya umaappeal kahit abroad kasi a lot of them are well made. Kaso yung mga commercial romcom na ginagawa dito puro mga muntik nang gumanda at bihira ang talagang masasabing maganda yung kwento. Hirap ibenta kapag yung mga kwento e mga pinagtagpi tagping kwento mula sa ibang foreign films. Di naman nilalahat pero ang rare kasi ng maayos na kwento. Pano mo ilalako yung ganun kung kinopya lang din sa gawa ng iba, diba. E napanood na nila yun. Just saying, while matindi na progress over the last 5 years or so, konting push pa para talagang gumanda ang karamihan ng mainstream movies.
2:03 agree. The problem with philippine movies and teleserye parang kulang sa originality. Same formula. Tapos production wise parang stuck in the 70s. Yung mga cg diyosme laos. If I was stuck watching pinoy productions only I wouldn't know better and mapapa wow ako.
The problem with filipino teleserye are, very predictable. Sampan, kidnapan, pagtataksil and halos lahat ng dialogues e pro galit... They need to showcase the foods sang and local products, per waley.
Sana makapag produce tayo ng movie featuring mga tourist spots natin. Pero syempre dapat with nice story pa rin. Diba, di lang movie na offer mo, pwede pang maakit foreigners na bumisita dito.
Kaya hindi mabebenta internationally ang phil movie kasi wala originality. Halata agad ng foreigners na adaptations kaagad . At saka stop showing violence. Sobra na akala Tuloy ganoon buhay pilipino.
Kasi hindi yan ang kind of movies sa International Film Festivals. Hindi nila type ang Romcom. Eh kung puro romcom lang eh di halos lahat na sana ng films sa hollywood kasali at pinalabas na sa international film fest. Mas gusto rin nila ang ibang genre. There's more to movies than romcom.
1 film per country lang po according to the rules ng Oscars for equal treatment. Unfair kasi kung multiple enries ang mga country. Pano yung mga country na maganda ang quality ng film, matatabunan yung mga not so great film.
I have a classmate from Nigeria and he watched Mara Clara favorite daw nila magkakapatid yun. Then he asked kung normal ba sa pinas ang nagkakapalitan ng anak?
Kung maka exactly naman si gretchen. Mapera ka di ba? Eh di magproduce ka ng pelikulang magpapa-angat sa Pilipinas. Puro hanash wala naman ginagawa para masolusyunan ang nirereklamo nya.
Pede naman kasi gumawa ng slice of life topic tapos gagamitan ng movie "magic" kung papaano ito ipapakita sa mga tao. Pero paano kasi panay pabebe din naman concept ng commercial films natin...
Bwahaha! Nakakatawa ang reading comprehension niyo. Wala naman sinabi si Janno Gibbs na dapat puro love story lang ang mga Pinoy movies. Ibig sabihin lang niya dapat happy or positive ang mga movies. Hindi yung puro kahirapan at problema sa droga.
Agree ako kay Janno Gibbs. Although love ko naman ang mga violent indie films, bigyan din naman ng chance ang mga light romantic/comedy movies with high quality. Matagal naman na tayong "woke" sa mga nangyayari sa bansa natin eh. Bakit kelangan pa ipalabas? Ang labas kasi parang nanonood ka lang ng news na ginawang fiction. Like, lagi na lang crime fiction. Medyo nakakasawa lang kung laging ganun.
look, filmmakers in the international market are looking for awards. poverty porn sells in the awards market. yang opulence na gusto iportray ni janno, eh di mabebenta. CRA is based on a book that was a hit. producers took a chance with it. the production cost is not cheap obviously. anyway, if the movies janno wants will be made, i'm sure, di siya kasama sa cast.
may market ba? eh, puro foreign films naman pinapanuod ng local viewers. tapos, imbis na isupport ang local, ipapirate pa. anyway, sabi nga ng isang aktor noon, sa 10 pelikula ng is movie outfit, 1 lang ang matino, kinailanganang kita ng 9 para magawa yung isa.
Do you have a budget of more 30 million dollars to make a movie? I think not.
ReplyDeleteYou’re missing the point
DeleteBakit ang indie low budget and yet critically acclaimed. Wala sa big budget yan nasa creativity ng writer yan and attention to detail ng director.
Deletethey should watch Aamir Khan's recent films. may makukuha sila dun na tips on how to produce good and quality films.
DeleteDISAGREE! SINGAPORE IS KNOWN AS A FIRST WORLD COUNTRY SYEMPRE PANG-FIRST WORLD ANG CONTENT!
DeleteGAGAWA KA PELIKULA ABOUT THE ALTAS E THIRD WORLD TAYO. MAGTATANONG MGA FOREIGNER, BAKIT IYAN PINAPAKITA?
wow naman! all caps talaga? #easylang #bpalert
DeleteCRA is a Hollywood movie based on an Asian American book. It's not the same and we have a long way to go.
Delete12:51 literal talaga? pag yaman, pera lang naisip mo?
Deletepwede naman na imbes slums at basura, beaches ang ipakita since dun may maipagyayabang tayo
You are right. It’s all about production value and a good movie need to have the right budget. The right actors who can act, set, music, script, storyline, execution, wardrobe, good editing, cinematography, promotion, etc.
DeleteI agree. They spent 30 million dollars to make Crazy Rich Asian’s and it shows. Philippines don’t even spend a few million dollars to make a movie.
DeleteYes, with not enough budget, the can’t make good quality movies in pinas. Indies are very cheap to make and have the imotional tug for the international critics.
DeleteArtsy daw kasi kapag may grime, dirt, drugs, poverty, killings, and tons of garbage sa paligid.
ReplyDeleteIkr we had our share of all these artsy daw movies na tbh ndi enticing panuorin.
DeleteVery low lang ang budget niyan kasi. That’s the main reason. Cheap to make. No need for lavish sets, wardrobes or production value.
DeleteTama nga naman. Infer napaisip nga ako.
ReplyDeleteMeh, send shallow, pabebe at pakilig nonsense pinas movies to international market? You’ll be laughed at.
ReplyDeleteYou are certainly not in the field of literary arts. So, please shut up if you have no idea about the craft. Ignorant! 😆
Delete1:30 certainly, neither do you. Do shut up ka rin
DeleteTama ka. Low quality pinas movies are not competitive at all.
DeleteOo nga—puro drugs, patayan, political distress, squatters aguy!!! Pwede namang happy movie
ReplyDeletebudget friendly kasi yan 1:06.
Deletena over na sa love team mga pinoy. pati mga matanda na love team parin.
Deleteyan din ang tanong ko! Puros na lang kahirapan at drugs at basura ang theme ng mga indie movie na pinapadala sa mga international film festival. Oo alam ko na it's reality pero hinid lang naman yun ang reality sa Pilipinas. Nakakahiya isip tuloy ng mga ibang lahi ganon sa Pilipinas everywhere you go at lahat tayo dugyot.
ReplyDeleteSid and aya was sent to international filmfest. i think invited din sila!
Deletetrue! sana makapag produce tau ng romcom na tatangkilikin sa ibang bansa. Katulad na lang sa Thailand saka South Korea.
ReplyDeleteEwan ko pero napaka ordinary ng story ng movie. Hindi ganitong klase ng movie ang gusto ng Hollywood. Matagal pa bago masundan uli. Katulad ng Joyluck club.
ReplyDeleteAgree ako. Typical rich chinese family na ayaw sa girl. Cliche.
DeleteDami ng ganyang romcom sa pinas. Yun ba gusto nyang imarket abroad?
Sorry to burst your bubble, but the second installment of Crazy Rich Asians is already underway. Major box office hit siya worldwide dear.
DeleteDyan ka nagkakamali. Nag greenlight na ng sequel ang Warner Brothers kasi Box office hit sya
DeletePareho tayo baks kahit ako di ako nagandahan sa movie, rich guy and poor girl dami nyan sa mga asian serye, extravagant version nga lang yon production nila. Atchaka distracting din yon pagkacrossed eye ni constance wu.
DeleteIMO the love story is a guise. The book aims to show the lifestyle (and perhaps make fun?) of the really rich Chinese families specifically in SG. Read a comment before that the characters were inspired by real people and that feathers were ruffled when the book first came out.
DeleteExcept the book glorifies the racism and classism of rich Chinese families. It fails to satirize it
Deleteakala tuloy ng mga tiga ibang bansa na clueless o hindi pa nakarating dito that Philippines is so Filthy, panget at mabaho , slums lahat ng tirahan ng mga tao.
ReplyDeleteYun 7 Sundays or parang Tanging Yaman or Magnifico type of movies Sana. Gastusan pa para mas lalong pulido yun storya at gawa. Hindi believable Kung puro yayamanin ipapakita. Yun mga values ba like family and faith na malakas sa atin bilang mga Filipino Sana yun naman.
ReplyDeleteI agree sa mga movies na nabanggit mo. Isama na rin yung movie na 4 sis & a wed. Sad lang mas tinatangkilik kasi ngayon ang mga pabebe movies
DeleteWe have a surplus of romcoms that highlight pinoy culture. Favorite nga ng star cinema yun. Pero di lang talaga bumebenta sa ibang bansa at sa totoo lang, di rin kabentabenta.
ReplyDeleteMedyo kinulang kasi sa production value #fact
DeleteRushed kasi ang movies ng big production houses now. Daming glitches kaya nakakainis din maglabas ng pera for such works.
DeleteRecycled ang mga storylines at wala din ka kwenta2x. If di madiliin baka. Kaso shooting sila ngayon, next month showing na. Gustong kumita agad kaya strategy nila, kunin yung mga sikat. Kahit bano ang acting at pangit ang story, sure silang kumita cz of their fans na paulit-ulit nanuod to achieve blockbuster success.
Delete1:19 pm, in other words, kasalanan din ng fantards na tinatangkilik yung mga puchu puchu movies basta lang kiligin sila at manalo ng BOQ/K idol nila.
DeletePara sa pinas lang yan. Kahit ano pwede na. Not good enough for international audience. International audience are much more sophisticated. Pinas movies are too obvious and manipulative - corny scenarios, too loud, too noisy, OA acting, too emotional, recycled stories, etc.
DeleteLet’s face it, hindi naman talaga tinatangkilik yung mga movies tungkol sa drugs, patayan, barilan, kahirapan. Kung gusto makipagsabayan ng Pilipinas magfocus na lang sa love stories at romcoms. Kita mo Korea, Taiwan and China sobrang popular sila sa romcoms and love stories nila. Kahit na may language barrier talagang pinapanood kahit ng ibang nationalities kasi magaganda talaga.
ReplyDeleteSure ka? Eh bakit puro patayan ang top-rated soap natin? Lol.
DeleteTrue!!! Halos lahat ng mh co worker ko, they watch korean drama - kahit na subtitles lang.
Deletei think most are missing the point - it's quality that counts para mapansin ang pinoy films internationally. hindi kesyo negative or positive ang image ng pinas sa movie.
ReplyDeleteExactly. Yang mga K-drama na yan kaya umaappeal kahit abroad kasi a lot of them are well made. Kaso yung mga commercial romcom na ginagawa dito puro mga muntik nang gumanda at bihira ang talagang masasabing maganda yung kwento. Hirap ibenta kapag yung mga kwento e mga pinagtagpi tagping kwento mula sa ibang foreign films. Di naman nilalahat pero ang rare kasi ng maayos na kwento. Pano mo ilalako yung ganun kung kinopya lang din sa gawa ng iba, diba. E napanood na nila yun. Just saying, while matindi na progress over the last 5 years or so, konting push pa para talagang gumanda ang karamihan ng mainstream movies.
Delete2:03 agree. The problem with philippine movies and teleserye parang kulang sa originality. Same formula. Tapos production wise parang stuck in the 70s. Yung mga cg diyosme laos. If I was stuck watching pinoy productions only I wouldn't know better and mapapa wow ako.
DeleteThe problem with filipino teleserye are, very predictable. Sampan, kidnapan, pagtataksil and halos lahat ng dialogues e pro galit... They need to showcase the foods sang and local products, per waley.
DeleteSana makapag produce tayo ng movie featuring mga tourist spots natin. Pero syempre dapat with nice story pa rin. Diba, di lang movie na offer mo, pwede pang maakit foreigners na bumisita dito.
ReplyDeleteKaya hindi mabebenta internationally ang phil movie kasi wala originality. Halata agad ng foreigners na adaptations kaagad
ReplyDelete. At saka stop showing violence. Sobra na akala Tuloy ganoon buhay pilipino.
Kasi hindi yan ang kind of movies sa International Film Festivals. Hindi nila type ang Romcom. Eh kung puro romcom lang eh di halos lahat na sana ng films sa hollywood kasali at pinalabas na sa international film fest. Mas gusto rin nila ang ibang genre. There's more to movies than romcom.
ReplyDeleteBaket isang entry Lang lagi ang pinapadala ng pilipinas sa oscars. Hindi ba pede maraming entry para more chances of winning!
ReplyDelete1 film per country lang po according to the rules ng Oscars for equal treatment. Unfair kasi kung multiple enries ang mga country. Pano yung mga country na maganda ang quality ng film, matatabunan yung mga not so great film.
DeleteKuya Janno Bigs, hindi kasi pang international film fest ang romcom. Nakuha ka lang ng CRA sa bonggang production design nila lol.
ReplyDeleteI so agree.
ReplyDeleteI have a classmate from Nigeria and he watched Mara Clara favorite daw nila magkakapatid yun. Then he asked kung normal ba sa pinas ang nagkakapalitan ng anak?
ReplyDeleteJanno bigs is on point.
ReplyDeletesabihin nyu yan ke Brillante Mendoza...hahaha!
ReplyDeleteKung maka exactly naman si gretchen. Mapera ka di ba? Eh di magproduce ka ng pelikulang magpapa-angat sa Pilipinas. Puro hanash wala naman ginagawa para masolusyunan ang nirereklamo nya.
ReplyDeletePede naman kasi gumawa ng slice of life topic tapos gagamitan ng movie "magic" kung papaano ito ipapakita sa mga tao. Pero paano kasi panay pabebe din naman concept ng commercial films natin...
ReplyDeleteBwahaha! Nakakatawa ang reading comprehension niyo. Wala naman sinabi si Janno Gibbs na dapat puro love story lang ang mga Pinoy movies. Ibig sabihin lang niya dapat happy or positive ang mga movies. Hindi yung puro kahirapan at problema sa droga.
ReplyDeleteAgree ako kay Janno Gibbs. Although love ko naman ang mga violent indie films, bigyan din naman ng chance ang mga light romantic/comedy movies with high quality. Matagal naman na tayong "woke" sa mga nangyayari sa bansa natin eh. Bakit kelangan pa ipalabas? Ang labas kasi parang nanonood ka lang ng news na ginawang fiction. Like, lagi na lang crime fiction. Medyo nakakasawa lang kung laging ganun.
ReplyDeletelook, filmmakers in the international market are looking for awards. poverty porn sells in the awards market. yang opulence na gusto iportray ni janno, eh di mabebenta. CRA is based on a book that was a hit. producers took a chance with it. the production cost is not cheap obviously. anyway, if the movies janno wants will be made, i'm sure, di siya kasama sa cast.
ReplyDeletemay market ba? eh, puro foreign films naman pinapanuod ng local viewers. tapos, imbis na isupport ang local, ipapirate pa. anyway, sabi nga ng isang aktor noon, sa 10 pelikula ng is movie outfit, 1 lang ang matino, kinailanganang kita ng 9 para magawa yung isa.
ReplyDelete