I agree. Wyn is likable because she is capable of having opinions and sharing them eloquently. May mga beauty queens na beauty lang talaga. Di makitaan ng depth at substance mga sagot. Either sabaw or unnaturally rehearsed
Matapang sya kase sinabi nya ang gustong sabihin ng karamihan pero di mgawa kase natatakot masabihan ngdidiscriminate. I hate discrimination but this one is not sa totoo lang.
Tama naman si Wyn2 entitled naman siya ng opinion niya. Ibang LGBT napaka insensitive. Gusto respeto pero pag may narining na feeling nila di nila gusto againt na agad sa kanila.
Well of course, aside from overhaul talaga at sagana sa plastic surgeries eh nagtatake sila ng hormones to look feminine. So ending, mas mukang well developed at feminine sila kesa sa ibang babae. While yung natural born women can’t take as much hormones kasi it can mess up the cycles. Pero trans will never be in the same calbre as women. Never.
I have nothing against trans but I’m saying this once kasi papangaralan na naman ako na they are women, just trapped wrongly in men’s body. If your DNA and genetic composition is male, you’ll die as a male, no amount of plastic surgery can change that. Sorry. Wala talaga akong galit sa kanila and sige na I should be educated and sabihan nyo akong ignorant about these things pero i still stand with I believe in.
I disagree..you can sense naman na fake at exagerrated sila. Kahit babae na bad hygiene at busabos looking..yung hatural femininity will always be there and kita yun
Agree 12:50. Sana naman tayo din bigyan nila ng chance to stand by our beliefs. Hindi yung parang magsasabi ka lang ng di ka agree sa kanila na label na agad na judgmental. Wag sana butthurt masyado.
You didn’t get me. @1:06,Some trans look more feminine than real women, kaya lang unnatural. Feminine features ang sinasabi ko, like soft supple skin, shapely and curvaceous body, etc. My point is the reason why some of them look prettier than women is because of the female hormones that they are taking. I’m not saying na hindi sila fake at hindi natural tingnan.
1:45 gets ko naman yung unang statement mo..pero i do not find beautiful yung artificial femininity. Maganda nga per parts pero as a whole it looks like trainwreck. Di ma achieve ng tao ang nilikha ng Diyos.
Ano naman ang mali don? Ano bang advantage ng transgender sa natural na babae para sabihin mo na unfair. Dahil mas makakabuhat sila ng sako ng bigas? May ganon bang special award?
nakapanood na ba kayo ng sireyna pageants ha, ok so nakikita nyo na malaki ang kaibahan ng galawan ng trans at mga babae. Mas feminine ang trans. They devote their time on this. Iba ang lakad ng trans at ang postura. So unfair di ba.
Totoo naman eh. Pwede namang magkaron ng sariling prestigious pageants for transwomen or gays. Ipaubaya nyo na ang Ms. Universe sa mga tunay na babae. Wag na palakihin ang issue.
Ayan nanaman ang mga tao. Pag hindi kayo sang ayon sa opinion ng iba, sasabihan niyong inggit, threated etc. Hello, stop being so immature. Para kayong mga 6 years old sa playground.
Kudos to Wyn Marquez!... There should be a limitation to areas in which this LGBTUVXYZ community can traple on... They have their own gay contests where real women arent allowed to join... Why should we let them join contests for biological women?
I agree. No offense to our brothers and sisters in the LGBT community,pero dapat talaga ibang category and sana huwag na ipilit kasi whether we like it ir not,iba talaga sitwasyon. It's not discrimination. Sa sports nga iba ang Olympics sa Paralympics.
Unfair naman kasi talaga, nothing against trans ha. But please not Miss Universe pageant. They have their own beauty contest naman. Unfair talaga mamshie.
I agree to this also. I find her brave imo for saying this though. Sa twitter kasi pagnakikita mo ung ibang comments sa opinion nya she is deemed as a homophobe daw. Ang lungkot lang
Actually kahit pa kung sa doc na change na into female..hindi pa din swak. Magiging swak lang kung magchange ng rules ang pageant. I do not agree pero need i respect.
I, agree what she said!We respect their rights as a Transgender but in this case unfair for the Natural-born Women kasi we respect their Trans Pageant na hindi talaga sumasali ang mga kababaihan sa pageant nila to pay respect also for them
True. Ilugar naman sana nila ang sarili nila. Just create their own pageants instead of encroaching on pageants such as Miss Universe. In the long run, it will only create animosity at mawawalan ng gana ang mga audience kung puro transgender na ang mga nasa prestigious pageants.
Beauty pageant is about superficial beauty naman so a transwoman fits the bill. Kung di naman sasabihin kung trans yung contestant only a few might even realized the difference. So i say give them a chance. Tutal maraming gays ang fans ng mga beauty pageant so its only fair to include them kung kaya nilang pumasa sa criteria. Never namang vagina ang naging basehan sa pagkapanalo sa mga beauty pageants. Majority of the female population eh ni hindi qualified sumali sa miss universe sa height pa lang. So beauty pageant is not even an accurate representation of a natural born woman.
Why not stick to their own beauty pageant then? How can a trans fit the bill when they are not women in the first place. Lalaki sila. If that’s the case a gay transvetite can join too? Again, this is a competition for women not for gays. And yes, I classify trans and gays as one, because parehas naman sila ng beliefs na babae sila diba? Pero trans claim na tunay silang babae.
Shame on transsexuals. HIndi na kayo nahiya sa mga gays who try fight so hard to be recognized and accepted. You're making a fool of yourselves and the group you represent!
Wow ang daming holier than thou dito. All of you better read up on the press release of Miss U organization when they opened up to transwomen. They do not want to discriminate, unlike you pretend lgbt allies with antiquated world views. Nakakasuka kayong mga hindi aral at hampas lupa.
1:34 i am a proud pinoy. i dont need to be influenced by whatever the miss u organization is doing to come up with my own opinion. kami hampas lupa, ikaw naman malansang isda!
@1:34, look how entitled you are, just because we don’t share the same sentiments, tinawag mo pa kaming di nag aral. Hahahahah. With the way you speak, you sound uneducated and barbaric. I am with LGBTs, but do transwomen classify themselves as LGBT? Eh di ba hindi kasi they think they are real women? Defend mo if you’re really educated. Ikaw na!
Dahil hindi sang-ayon hampas lupa na? ikaw ang sobrang babaw. Jusko, ano ba ang gusto ng LGBT na yan, lahat nalang na gusto nila dapat ok ang lahat. Hindi pwede yan. Sobrang sensitive ng ibang LGBT sa totoo lang. Hindi naman lahat. Ang daming magagaling na trans dami din sobrang OA na.
1:34 just because we have our opinion and principles doesn’t mean we’re being “holier than thou”. Parang black or white lang yan then pinagpipilitan na gray is also black. Obvious namang mali, so tatanggapin mo lang?
mas hampas lupa itong mag comment ng ganito. Closed minded. Ayaw yan ng mga natural born women. It is also a form of discrimination in our very own pageant.So live with it.
Take it as a challenge. Kung may sariling pageant ang mga transgender, eh di Wow! Para magkaalaman na mas may brain & mas maganda pa sila sa mga tunay na babae.
If trans women can join Miss U, then other trans men can join professional sports like NBA or Football!!! I bet you they're gonna say that it's impossible dahil iba ang strength ng natural born women and it will be dangerous sa field ek ek. Equal rights ain't equal. Pfffft.
It would be up to the decision of the governing body of the endeavor to decide that. Miss Universe Organization allows transwomen to join. Miss Universe Org does not run the NBA or NFL.
Yes. But that does not mean we have to agree with it. We have different opinions that’s why you don’t need to shove your beliefs to us. We feel offended because a trans is not a real woman. That competition is a joke.
6:54 can’t u get it? 1:37 said kung papayagan ang transwoman sa Miss U, syempre pano naman ang mga transman syempre gusto nila hindi din sila agrabyado.
Of course I get it, 11:08. Transmen are free to fight for the right to join those organizations and those organizations can decide based on whatever rationale they want to employ. It does not mean though that they are obliged to say yes, just because of the rules of MUO.
Parang di nyo matanggap pag may nag point out na mejo tagilid reasoning 1:37. Di naman mutually exclusive ang MUO rules sa rules ng sporting organizations. Common sense over hysterical reasoning. -6:54
Bakit ba nakisawsaw pa tong mga transwomen ano ba ang gusto nilang patunayan? We each have our own strengths ke bakla, babae, lalaki, etc. We can still live in harmony without enroaching on other's territory. Gumawa nalang sila ng Ms. Universe-Trans para tapos ang usapan. At hindi ako anti LGBT ha. May mga pinsan akong bakla and I have nothing against them being gay.
I agree with Wyn. And she is not a homophobic. Porke’t ba hindi mo binibigay lahat ng opportunities sa Transwomen, homophobic na? May limit din dapat. Sana maintindihan ng lahat yun.
Agree with you Wyn and thank you for giving an honest but not a discriminatory opinion. She’s saying something that no other girl beauty queens can utter for fear of being bashed.
Whatever you say. Transgender is not a real woman. Go and take you hormonal pills with you. You’ll need it so you can be at least half the woman as we are. 😂 MUO is just partaking with it prolly because of marketing ploy. What a joke!
Bakla ako pero naniniwala rin ako sa sinabi wyn... ang miss universe ay para lang sa tunay na babae. Ang mga bakla ay meron sarili nilang pageant. Dun na lamang po tayo sumali. Irespeto po natin ang karapatang ito para sa babaeng ipinanganak na merong matres. And i thank you! #SaTruelang
If Ms. Universe is promoting anti-discrimination then they should all short and chubby women to join the competition,including women beyond 30 and legally separated. Fairness pala ang drama so why can't they give it to all women. Ang daming natural born women na gustong sumali, na qualified pero kinulang sa height at hindi nila pinapayagan. So nasaan ang fairness doon. Until today ino-oppress pa rin ba ang mga babae, yun nga lang in a different form, mga trans naman ang gumagawa...meaning mga lalake pa rin.
Jusko di kayo nanunuod ng ms u???? remember ms canada na chubby na nakapasok sa top ten last 2016 na ginanap pa sa pinas???? Nakakaloka kayo lahat na lang
This is not about if you're pro LGBTQ or not. It's her right to have an opinion which I happen to agree. I actually admire her for being gutsy and vocal. You have my support Wyn!
sobra! nakakairita na sila. it’s so nice na may taong nag voice out talaga. kasi most of us have the same opinion with wyn kaso nga lang naaaway tau ng mga entitled lagi and victim daw na lgbt
Ang tapang nya! and for that Wynwyn has my admiration. While other beauty queens choose to agree dahil takot cla ma-bash ng LGBT community, here is a crowned beauty who takes a stand. Bravo Ms. Wynwyn Marquez, you deserve to be called Reyna.
Paano tayo madidiscriminate eh tanggap ng society ang natural na pagkababae natin? Sila mas discriminated sis kasi pinaglalaban nila rights nila kasi di pa sika tanggap. B
How would you accept a biological male claiming to be a woman? Ipaliwanag mo sakin yan. After magparetoke babae na? Ganun lang? Are we really going to just be ok with this? Lokohan ba ang gender identity? Nadidiscriminate ang mga babae if there is inequity. Do you think it’s fair for biological males to join a beauty competition for female? That alone screams discrimination! @8:26pm
Ewan ko ba dyan sa ms u org. kung bakit pumayag na puede sumali ang trans! No way! Ms u beaucon is only for women!! No offense to all transgender but really..ms u?!
And who's good enough for ms u teh? You're obviously someone who cant accept if someone go against your beliefs. Respetohin nyo opinion nang ibang tao.
tama naman siya. we respect lgbts pero sana naman ilugar lahat. Ms. Universe is for natural born women. respect din sa women. just like natural born women cant compete sa Transgender pageants and gay pageants.hindi namn siguro descrimination yun.
Nung unang panahon, ang mga babae, di maka boto, at di makapag ari ng property. Eventually, nagkaroon ng rights ang mga babae kaya puwede ng bumoto at makapag ari ng property. Ngayon bumabalik ang pakakaroon ng less rights ng babae. Magiging kawawa ang mga babae kapag pinasok ng mga transwoman ang mundo ng pang babae.
I would love to hear the answer to the question what is the essense of a woman hahaha.. For sure iba na mananalo pag tinanong ulit to.. Remind ko lang sa sagot ni Sushmita: the origin of a child is a mother and a woman. A woman is one who shows a man what love and sharing and caring is all about. That is the essence of a woman. The difference a few years make.
Trans women, no matter how they say they are women, have been scientifically altered to become women. I am not an expert in beauty pageants though my family have always watched them eversince I can remember.But this I can opine about, they are not naturally born women so why try hard to belong to beauty pageants for women? What is happening to our society?
I don't know. Ang bastos pa nila. Wyn wyn was gracious in her answers but look at this xtina, the way he delivered his message was rude and vulgar. Laging feeling offended. LOL
sobra. lagi nalang silang naapi kahit hindi naman. gusto nila sila ung nasusunod and tayo mag aadjust. palibhasa kasi insecurities nila. no matter how much science altered their outside appearance they can never erase the fact na they are really men
Wag shonga. We’re only using that for you to realize the difference between trans and real women. Hindi nyo kasi maintindihan. So gamitin narin ung Ms. Trans Spain din sa Ms U kung yan ang logic mo. Shonga.
Tama nman cya Hindi gaya nung iba dyan magpapaka-plastic pa sa sagot para di ma-bash.
ReplyDeleteI agree. Wyn is likable because she is capable of having opinions and sharing them eloquently. May mga beauty queens na beauty lang talaga. Di makitaan ng depth at substance mga sagot. Either sabaw or unnaturally rehearsed
DeleteMatapang sya kase sinabi nya ang gustong sabihin ng karamihan pero di mgawa kase natatakot masabihan ngdidiscriminate. I hate discrimination but this one is not sa totoo lang.
DeleteTama naman si Wyn2 entitled naman siya ng opinion niya. Ibang LGBT napaka insensitive. Gusto respeto pero pag may narining na feeling nila di nila gusto againt na agad sa kanila.
DeleteWell, mas lalong humigpit ang laban because sa true lang mas magaganda yung mga sireyna sa totoong babae.
ReplyDeleteKasi mas maraming gawa.
DeleteWell of course, aside from overhaul talaga at sagana sa plastic surgeries eh nagtatake sila ng hormones to look feminine. So ending, mas mukang well developed at feminine sila kesa sa ibang babae. While yung natural born women can’t take as much hormones kasi it can mess up the cycles. Pero trans will never be in the same calbre as women. Never.
DeleteI have nothing against trans but I’m saying this once kasi papangaralan na naman ako na they are women, just trapped wrongly in men’s body. If your DNA and genetic composition is male, you’ll die as a male, no amount of plastic surgery can change that. Sorry. Wala talaga akong galit sa kanila and sige na I should be educated and sabihan nyo akong ignorant about these things pero i still stand with I believe in.
DeleteAgree with you 12:50. Sorry but that’s our stand.
DeleteI disagree..you can sense naman na fake at exagerrated sila. Kahit babae na bad hygiene at busabos looking..yung hatural femininity will always be there and kita yun
DeleteAgree 12:50. Sana naman tayo din bigyan nila ng chance to stand by our beliefs. Hindi yung parang magsasabi ka lang ng di ka agree sa kanila na label na agad na judgmental. Wag sana butthurt masyado.
DeleteOh yes to this!
DeleteYou didn’t get me. @1:06,Some trans look more feminine than real women, kaya lang unnatural. Feminine features ang sinasabi ko, like soft supple skin, shapely and curvaceous body, etc. My point is the reason why some of them look prettier than women is because of the female hormones that they are taking. I’m not saying na hindi sila fake at hindi natural tingnan.
Delete1:45 gets ko naman yung unang statement mo..pero i do not find beautiful yung artificial femininity. Maganda nga per parts pero as a whole it looks like trainwreck. Di ma achieve ng tao ang nilikha ng Diyos.
DeleteOk ikaw bahala. I respect your opinion @ 2:53 😊
DeleteAgree. I love gays pero sobra naman na sa pageant ng natural born na mga mga babae, isasama sila. Unfair sa mga babae
ReplyDeleteAno naman ang mali don? Ano bang advantage ng transgender sa natural na babae para sabihin mo na unfair. Dahil mas makakabuhat sila ng sako ng bigas? May ganon bang special award?
DeleteHow is it unfair? She will go through the same competition. Unfair kung straight top 10 siya just for being trans.
DeleteKung sumali ba ang isang babae sa pageant ng mga trans, ok lang ba?
DeleteOmg you don’t get it don’t you. Unfair because trans are not really women. This is a competition for women!
DeleteAn all women competition is solely for women only. Let the trans join their own competition para walang lutuan at claims na unfairness sa results.
DeleteSa tototo nakabastos yun sa ating mga babae.
Deletenakapanood na ba kayo ng sireyna pageants ha, ok so nakikita nyo na malaki ang kaibahan ng galawan ng trans at mga babae. Mas feminine ang trans. They devote their time on this. Iba ang lakad ng trans at ang postura. So unfair di ba.
DeleteI agree!!!!
ReplyDeletemagalalbasan na mga sensitive dito oh. Part ako mg LGBT pero agree ako kay girl kahit d ko siya bet.
ReplyDeleteTotoo naman eh. Pwede namang magkaron ng sariling prestigious pageants for transwomen or gays. Ipaubaya nyo na ang Ms. Universe sa mga tunay na babae. Wag na palakihin ang issue.
ReplyDeleteAtleast she's honest,yung iba medyo pasafe ang answer
ReplyDeleteChrue!
DeleteBaka dumating ang panahon transgender n lahat s Miss Universe.
ReplyDeleteThreatened si ateng. May plano pala sumali uli sa pakontes.
ReplyDeletePorke nag disagree sya threatened & may plano na ulit sumali?? Advance mag-isip teh??
DeleteLuh san banda sya threatened
Delete12:27 paanong threatened? Pagbalibaliktarin mo man ang mundo, BABAE siya so bakit siya mathreatened? Babae- that some of you just aspire to become.
Delete12:27 you nailed it!
Delete2:50 true!
DeleteAyan nanaman ang mga tao. Pag hindi kayo sang ayon sa opinion ng iba, sasabihan niyong inggit, threated etc. Hello, stop being so immature. Para kayong mga 6 years old sa playground.
DeleteMs. Universe should be for natural born women only. Period.
ReplyDeleteKudos to Wyn Marquez!... There should be a limitation to areas in which this LGBTUVXYZ community can traple on... They have their own gay contests where real women arent allowed to join... Why should we let them join contests for biological women?
ReplyDeleteI agree. No offense to our brothers and sisters in the LGBT community,pero dapat talaga ibang category and sana huwag na ipilit kasi whether we like it ir not,iba talaga sitwasyon. It's not discrimination. Sa sports nga iba ang Olympics sa Paralympics.
ReplyDeleteUnfair naman kasi talaga, nothing against trans ha. But please not Miss Universe pageant. They have their own beauty contest naman. Unfair talaga mamshie.
ReplyDeleteI agree to this also. I find her brave imo for saying this though. Sa twitter kasi pagnakikita mo ung ibang comments sa opinion nya she is deemed as a homophobe daw. Ang lungkot lang
ReplyDeletetama naman...sobra sobra na nga binibigay sa mga transgenders...respetuhin naman niyo yung natural born women sa contest na to
ReplyDeleteagree. nothing against trans tho
ReplyDeletepwede bang sumali ang mga natural born women sa gay pageant?
ReplyDeleteAng tamang tanong dyan pede ba yung straight women sumali sa gay pageant?
DeleteAgree! Allowed ba sumali ang mga tunay na babae sa isang gay pageant??
ReplyDeleteFinally! Someone said what’s really on her mind! Hindi takot!
ReplyDeleteI'm gay and I agree.
ReplyDeleteAng natural-born babae ba sasali sa gay pageant? No, right? Sooo there. Go wyn you are a brave woman, fernes sayo
ReplyDeleteWala na manonood kung purk transgender sa Miss Universe.
ReplyDeleteAGREE
ReplyDeleteTrans can't join pageants as women unless they are legally women, imho.
ReplyDeleteActually kahit pa kung sa doc na change na into female..hindi pa din swak. Magiging swak lang kung magchange ng rules ang pageant. I do not agree pero need i respect.
DeleteTama naman sinabi nya pinag-isipan at d naman offensive. Im with her.
ReplyDeleteI, agree what she said!We respect their rights as a Transgender but in this case unfair for the Natural-born Women kasi we respect their Trans Pageant na hindi talaga sumasali ang mga kababaihan sa pageant nila to pay respect also for them
ReplyDeleteTrue. Ilugar naman sana nila ang sarili nila. Just create their own pageants instead of encroaching on pageants such as Miss Universe. In the long run, it will only create animosity at mawawalan ng gana ang mga audience kung puro transgender na ang mga nasa prestigious pageants.
ReplyDeleteExactly. Gusto yata nila lahat ng gusto nila pwede nilang gawing.
Deletekorek. gumawa sila ng sarili nilang prestigious pageant. gusto kung title Queen of the Universe
DeleteTama naman siya, may sarili silang pageant para to sa mga legit na babae sana. Hay nakuuu
ReplyDeleteBeauty pageant is about superficial beauty naman so a transwoman fits the bill. Kung di naman sasabihin kung trans yung contestant only a few might even realized the difference. So i say give them a chance. Tutal maraming gays ang fans ng mga beauty pageant so its only fair to include them kung kaya nilang pumasa sa criteria. Never namang vagina ang naging basehan sa pagkapanalo sa mga beauty pageants. Majority of the female population eh ni hindi qualified sumali sa miss universe sa height pa lang. So beauty pageant is not even an accurate representation of a natural born woman.
ReplyDeleteWhy not stick to their own beauty pageant then? How can a trans fit the bill when they are not women in the first place. Lalaki sila. If that’s the case a gay transvetite can join too? Again, this is a competition for women not for gays. And yes, I classify trans and gays as one, because parehas naman sila ng beliefs na babae sila diba? Pero trans claim na tunay silang babae.
DeleteMadami ding gay ang hindi agree na sumali ang mga transwoman sa miss universe
DeleteShame on transsexuals. HIndi na kayo nahiya sa mga gays who try fight so hard to be recognized and accepted. You're making a fool of yourselves and the group you represent!
DeleteAgree.
ReplyDeleteIf kaya ng magconceive naturally ng gays then payagan na sila sumali sa ms u
Wow ang daming holier than thou dito. All of you better read up on the press release of Miss U organization when they opened up to transwomen. They do not want to discriminate, unlike you pretend lgbt allies with antiquated world views. Nakakasuka kayong mga hindi aral at hampas lupa.
ReplyDelete1:34 i am a proud pinoy. i dont need to be influenced by whatever the miss u organization is doing to come up with my own opinion. kami hampas lupa, ikaw naman malansang isda!
DeleteMas nakakasuka kayo! Dumadami kayong mga sensitive masyado minsan wala na sa tama ang mga pinaglalaban! Miss U is for natural born women only. Period
Delete@1:34, look how entitled you are, just because we don’t share the same sentiments, tinawag mo pa kaming di nag aral. Hahahahah. With the way you speak, you sound uneducated and barbaric. I am with LGBTs, but do transwomen classify themselves as LGBT? Eh di ba hindi kasi they think they are real women? Defend mo if you’re really educated. Ikaw na!
DeleteKinalaman ng proud Pinoy sa Miss U organization 2:06? Lutang sa pinaglabanan. Backward beliefs pa tayo. Push yan.
DeleteDahil hindi sang-ayon hampas lupa na? ikaw ang sobrang babaw. Jusko, ano ba ang gusto ng LGBT na yan, lahat nalang na gusto nila dapat ok ang lahat. Hindi pwede yan. Sobrang sensitive ng ibang LGBT sa totoo lang. Hindi naman lahat. Ang daming magagaling na trans dami din sobrang OA na.
Delete2.32 I think dapat din tayong maging sensitive para hindi sila sumubra.
Delete1:34 just because we have our opinion and principles doesn’t mean we’re being “holier than thou”. Parang black or white lang yan then pinagpipilitan na gray is also black. Obvious namang mali, so tatanggapin mo lang?
DeleteBackward na pala yung aware ka sa sarili mong identity *rolls eyes*
Deletemas hampas lupa itong mag comment ng ganito. Closed minded. Ayaw yan ng mga natural born women. It is also a form of discrimination in our very own pageant.So live with it.
DeleteTake it as a challenge. Kung may sariling pageant ang mga transgender, eh di Wow! Para magkaalaman na mas may brain & mas maganda pa sila sa mga tunay na babae.
ReplyDeleteMalamang.. Product ng syensya e.. Saan na hustisya dun?
DeleteIf trans women can join Miss U, then other trans men can join professional sports like NBA or Football!!! I bet you they're gonna say that it's impossible dahil iba ang strength ng natural born women and it will be dangerous sa field ek ek. Equal rights ain't equal. Pfffft.
ReplyDeleteIt would be up to the decision of the governing body of the endeavor to decide that. Miss Universe Organization allows transwomen to join. Miss Universe Org does not run the NBA or NFL.
DeleteYes. But that does not mean we have to agree with it. We have different opinions that’s why you don’t need to shove your beliefs to us. We feel offended because a trans is not a real woman. That competition is a joke.
Delete6:54 can’t u get it? 1:37 said kung papayagan ang transwoman sa Miss U, syempre pano naman ang mga transman syempre gusto nila hindi din sila agrabyado.
DeleteOf course I get it, 11:08. Transmen are free to fight for the right to join those organizations and those organizations can decide based on whatever rationale they want to employ. It does not mean though that they are obliged to say yes, just because of the rules of MUO.
DeleteParang di nyo matanggap pag may nag point out na mejo tagilid reasoning 1:37. Di naman mutually exclusive ang MUO rules sa rules ng sporting organizations. Common sense over hysterical reasoning. -6:54
Bakit ba nakisawsaw pa tong mga transwomen ano ba ang gusto nilang patunayan? We each have our own strengths ke bakla, babae, lalaki, etc. We can still live in harmony without enroaching on other's territory. Gumawa nalang sila ng Ms. Universe-Trans para tapos ang usapan. At hindi ako anti LGBT ha. May mga pinsan akong bakla and I have nothing against them being gay.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Wyn. And she is not a homophobic. Porke’t ba hindi mo binibigay lahat ng opportunities sa Transwomen, homophobic na? May limit din dapat. Sana maintindihan ng lahat yun.
ReplyDeleteKorek!
DeleteTama sya kahit ano palitan ng mga transgender lalaki pa rin sila by nature .
ReplyDeleteAgree with you Wyn and thank you for giving an honest but not a discriminatory opinion. She’s saying something that no other girl beauty queens can utter for fear of being bashed.
ReplyDeleteYES! Take a stand and from the comments i read here and other sm plarforms, majority of them share your opinion.
ReplyDeleteThe majority isn't always right 3:04.
DeleteBut this time, it is. @ 7:00
DeleteBasahin mo nga ulit 7:00. Maka sagot ka lang eh no.
Delete10:45 What's wrong with the statement of 7:00? Just because many people hold the same opinion, doesn't make that opinion right.
DeleteMUO already allowed it, a transgender candidate already competed. And now another one will.
Whatever you say. Transgender is not a real woman. Go and take you hormonal pills with you. You’ll need it so you can be at least half the woman as we are. 😂 MUO is just partaking with it prolly because of marketing ploy. What a joke!
Delete100% agree. We are with you Wyn.
ReplyDeleteMay point naman ksi si wynwyn..
ReplyDeleteBakla ako pero naniniwala rin ako sa sinabi wyn... ang miss universe ay para lang sa tunay na babae. Ang mga bakla ay meron sarili nilang pageant. Dun na lamang po tayo sumali. Irespeto po natin ang karapatang ito para sa babaeng ipinanganak na merong matres. And i thank you! #SaTruelang
ReplyDeleteIf Ms. Universe is promoting anti-discrimination then they should all short and chubby women to join the competition,including women beyond 30 and legally separated. Fairness pala ang drama so why can't they give it to all women. Ang daming natural born women na gustong sumali, na qualified pero kinulang sa height at hindi nila pinapayagan. So nasaan ang fairness doon. Until today ino-oppress pa rin ba ang mga babae, yun nga lang in a different form, mga trans naman ang gumagawa...meaning mga lalake pa rin.
ReplyDeleteay tumfact!
Delete5:29 agree 100%.
DeleteJusko di kayo nanunuod ng ms u???? remember ms canada na chubby na nakapasok sa top ten last 2016 na ginanap pa sa pinas???? Nakakaloka kayo lahat na lang
DeleteWell MS Canada is a biological female.
Deletedear 5:29 baka pwede mo to isulat sa Ms. U organization. this is really a good point
DeleteThis is not about if you're pro LGBTQ or not. It's her right to have an opinion which I happen to agree. I actually admire her for being gutsy and vocal. You have my support Wyn!
ReplyDeletei'm with Wyn on this one
ReplyDeleteKung ang trans women pwede na sumali pero ang mga babaeng kulang sa height at overage hindi pwede? San ang katarungan
ReplyDeletekaya nga eh
DeleteBrave and smart woman. Kodus wyn.
ReplyDeleteWow, ito lahat gusto nating ipahiwatig. Thank you wyn.
ReplyDeletesobra! nakakairita na sila. it’s so nice na may taong nag voice out talaga. kasi most of us have the same opinion with wyn kaso nga lang naaaway tau ng mga entitled lagi and victim daw na lgbt
DeleteAng tapang nya! and for that Wynwyn has my admiration. While other beauty queens choose to agree dahil takot cla ma-bash ng LGBT community, here is a crowned beauty who takes a stand. Bravo Ms. Wynwyn Marquez, you deserve to be called Reyna.
ReplyDeleteDi na bale Wynn. Palagay ko di naman yung papasok sa top 10 hehe.
ReplyDeletethis is a discrimination against natural born women.
ReplyDeletePaano tayo madidiscriminate eh tanggap ng society ang natural na pagkababae natin? Sila mas discriminated sis kasi pinaglalaban nila rights nila kasi di pa sika tanggap. B
DeleteHow would you accept a biological male claiming to be a woman? Ipaliwanag mo sakin yan. After magparetoke babae na? Ganun lang? Are we really going to just be ok with this? Lokohan ba ang gender identity? Nadidiscriminate ang mga babae if there is inequity. Do you think it’s fair for biological males to join a beauty competition for female? That alone screams discrimination! @8:26pm
DeleteEwan ko ba dyan sa ms u org. kung bakit pumayag na puede sumali ang trans! No way! Ms u beaucon is only for women!! No offense to all transgender but really..ms u?!
ReplyDeleteFeeling kasi ng mga trans at pinag sisiksikan nila na mga babae na kuno sila. I admire Wyn for saying it outright.
ReplyDeletegusto ko itong mga sagot ni Wyn Wyn.Matalino siya at very natural ang sagot , opinion nya yon at rerespetuhin ko yon. I agree.
ReplyDeleteHahahaha....I guess she is scared that she can’t compete with them. She is not good enough.
ReplyDeleteAnd who's good enough for ms u teh? You're obviously someone who cant accept if someone go against your beliefs. Respetohin nyo opinion nang ibang tao.
Delete10:24 She is more than enough for the pageant bec she is a true WOMAN. Kayo ang hindi makatanggap na no matter what and how- you will never be one🤪
Deletelove your answer 2:16!!!
Delete9:11 And I thank you😂😂😂 fr 2:16
DeleteVery true. She is scared of more competition. Natalo na kasi siya e.
Deletetama naman siya. we respect lgbts pero sana naman ilugar lahat. Ms. Universe is for natural born women. respect din sa women. just like natural born women cant compete sa Transgender pageants and gay pageants.hindi namn siguro descrimination yun.
ReplyDeleteNung unang panahon, ang mga babae, di maka boto, at di makapag ari ng property. Eventually, nagkaroon ng rights ang mga babae kaya puwede ng bumoto at makapag ari ng property. Ngayon bumabalik ang pakakaroon ng less rights ng babae. Magiging kawawa ang mga babae kapag pinasok ng mga transwoman ang mundo ng pang babae.
ReplyDeletethis!!!
Deleteagree with you wyn! kudos!
ReplyDeleteI would love to hear the answer to the question what is the essense of a woman hahaha.. For sure iba na mananalo pag tinanong ulit to.. Remind ko lang sa sagot ni Sushmita: the origin of a child is a mother and a woman. A woman is one who shows a man what love and sharing and caring is all about. That is the essence of a woman. The difference a few years make.
ReplyDeleteI am a natural woman and i agree with Wynwyn.
ReplyDeleteMiss Universe should be for natural born women.
Trans women, no matter how they say they are women, have been scientifically altered to become women. I am not an expert in beauty pageants though my family have always watched them eversince I can remember.But this I can opine about, they are not naturally born women so why try hard to belong to beauty pageants for women? What is happening to our society?
ReplyDeleteI don't know. Ang bastos pa nila. Wyn wyn was gracious in her answers but look at this xtina, the way he delivered his message was rude and vulgar. Laging feeling offended. LOL
Deletesobra. lagi nalang silang naapi kahit hindi naman. gusto nila sila ung nasusunod and tayo mag aadjust. palibhasa kasi insecurities nila. no matter how much science altered their outside appearance they can never erase the fact na they are really men
DeleteButi pa mga candidates sa ms q&a mas accepting and understanding. Di rin sila pabor.
ReplyDeleteo eh di we should give the crown of Reina HispanoAmerica to a natural born “Latina”
ReplyDeleteWag shonga. We’re only using that for you to realize the difference between trans and real women. Hindi nyo kasi maintindihan. So gamitin narin ung Ms. Trans Spain din sa Ms U kung yan ang logic mo. Shonga.
DeleteBakit ba pinayagan sumali ang trans? kaloka eh
ReplyDeleteI agree. Etong lgbt lahat na lang. Hello? Pede ba magjoin ang natural born women sa mga pa pageant nio?!
ReplyDeletepak na pak... Women can take appropriate steps to ensure they qualify and are suited to win Miss Universe.
ReplyDeleteMeh, wyn is not even relevant.
ReplyDeleteYeah right...But you took time to comment here
DeleteHahahaha...takot lang ang iba kasi napaka Ganda kasi nang ibang trans diba.
ReplyDelete