That is hardly an explanation. He basically justified the team's wrongdoing. If anything, he came across as unapologetic and arrogant. Yes, coach, the rest of us 100M+ Filipinos were not there, so we don't know what happened. Still, from where we stand, you and your BOYS were an embarrassment. You should be ashamed of yourselves. The classy move would be to own up to what you did - no excuses, no fingerpointing!
@1:18 Filipinos basketball players were hit not once but 5 times and you still expect them to just take it and not retaliate? They went there to play basketball not get whipped, how about Australian players showing respect, good sportmanship and be a good host country first. Why should Gilas players take all the blame when Kickert was also an aggressor.
Bakit nyo ba laging sinasabi na aussies unang sumiko? Si Pugoy unang nanakit kay Goulding, si Goulding hindi gumanti. Nakita ni Kickert, sya gumanti para kay Goulding. Lets stop playing the victim just to justify their actions. If we really want to talk about what started the chaos, unfortunately, we instigated the first attack kaya nagkagulo wag nyong itwist yung nangyari.
9:28 tutal gantihan gusto mo, ayun ginanti ni kickert si goulding nung siniko ni Pugoy so does that make his actions right already?
A lot of us are torn right now...some strongly justify Gilas’ unsportsmanlike behavior as some sort of a battle cry against bullying. But I beg to differ. Why?
Above all else: the National Flag.
That is what they are. Their jerseys are not mere playing uniforms. Regardless of the bullying and/or the taunting, they carried the national colors, they were The Philippines, 24 hours a day, while they were in competition. That is what these higher tiered athletes are supposed to be. They train on a higher level not only to hone their skills, they sacrifice so much because all that they go through is meant to teach them mental toughness, to be the best of the best in the country. To be able to withstand and endure whatever comes. To carry the national flag in their minds and their hearts—Always.
Team Australia demonstrated unsportsmanlike behavior-yes, but did The Philippine Team have to throw it down with them in the sh*ts? As athletes, there is always an internal voice that encourages to keep going, to show their greatest efforts, in this case, on the hard court. To stay the course and perform their duty for the flag, for the country. They could’ve just gone out there to help their teammate and facilitate to stop the brawling. That could’ve been done...it has been done before. What happened to mental toughness? To national pride? All gone in a second because their collective emotions got the better of them. I know, not everybody will agree with me here, but my disappointment stems mostly from the missed opportunity to “show-up” on the world stage, to be the model athletes to our youth, to be above board, to be beyond reproach, and be the best they can be in all aspects...and if all else fails, to live up to their name—they are after all called “Gilas Pilipinas.” Chot Reyes is a great leader, and he is standing by his team, I understand that. I sure hope that he not only remind them of how good they are, but to also refresh in their minds and hearts the value of wearing the Gilas name, and what it means to carry the national flag, that when they are called to compete, they are called to be their nation’s champions (win or lose) in every corner of the world, wherever competition takes them.
11:28 alam mo ba yung offensive foul? Offensive nga lang ung tinawag kasi ang basketball pisikal talaga. Pero ung bigla mong saktan na wala na sa laro tulad ng ginawa ni Kickert ibang usapan yun. Kaya maraming taong nabubully eh kasi may mga taong tulad mo. Kababayan mo ung unang sinaktan uy.
9:28 Ang sama ng loob mong mag-sorry sa AU dahil "bisita" lang sila dito sa atin? You are completely missing the point. Tanggalin mo yung element ng lokasyon ng laban. Sabihin nating they were in a neutral location, neither in the PH or in AU. Tama na bang makipagbasag-ulo then?
Hay, 12:27. If only coach Reyes and the team can read your comment. Napaisip rin ako na, bakit ba parang ang iinit ng ulo natin lahat? Nakakahiya na ang itchura ng bansa natin pagdating sa governance, yung sports yan pa naman ang unifying outlet mayroon tayo, tapos ganyan pa ang nangyari. Mga Gilas players hindi nagawang magpakitang gilas para sa Pilipinas sa harap ng buong mundo. Kainis ng sobra.
Mahina yung mga batch ng players na yan. Konting pressure lang yan kung tutuusin, tapos si Pingris nag selfie pa. Ang yayabang! Walang kwentang senior member ng team. Imbes na maging leader, naging follower sa mga pasaway. Mas may class yung mga players bago yung batch na yan, at magaling na team leader si Chris Tiu, malaking diperensya yung meron magaling na sportsman at gentleman na leader tulad ni Tiu.
Add ko lang 12:27, nakakadisappoint ang poor leadership ng Philippine team sa totoo lang. Hindi magiging weak, pikon, at basagulero mga player natin kung magaling ang mga naglelead sa kanila, muka sa coaching, sa training, pati sa senior players. Wala na yung panahon na yung tibay at galing ng mga players natin pinapakita sa court. Matanda na ako, panahon nila Samboy Lim, Hector Calma ang kinalakihan ko na Philippine team, nakakainspire sila manalo o matalo nakakainspire sila dahil sa maayos at matapang nila itinawid yung laro bilang Pilipino. Walang wala itong sila Pingris & co. pagdating sa karakter at leadership. Mga weakling.
I agree with 12.27. It was a poor showing because it showed poor character all around. The team showed false pride and weak spirits. The heart of a champion doesn’t reside in the hearts of these players. What a damn shame.
Sorry 1227, I agree with some of your points but I disagree with the part about Chot Reyes. That team has cultivated an undisciplined behavior because their coach ignored the signs. If he ran a tight ship his players will not act the way they did. Maybe you are friends with Chot that’s why you are complimenting him. He is the captain of the ship, so what his team is, he is.
4:07, Grabe ka rin eh no? Do you expect Chot Reyes to throw his team under the bus? Of course he will stand by his team. Pero behind closed doors pagsasabihan din niya players niya. Naglaro rin sa Philippine Team yan dati at matagal ng coach kaya alam niya gagawin niya.
3:57, Sir or Ma’am, Absolutely agree their actions are not inspiring at all. Unfortunately, they don’t make them like they used to. Mga walang disiplina pero ubod ng yayabang.
12:27, Very well said. They need to hear or read what you have said right there. Gone are the days when we had national players who took to heart what it meant to “carry the National colors”. Tong mga napanood natin, akala mo mga naglalaro lang sa cheap na Liga sa kung saang kanto kung makapatol. Agree with how mentally weak sila, they couldn’t focus on playing ball because they were psyched out even before they started the game. All that happened is bad for Philippine basketball.
Simple lang, hindi naiintindihan ng mga players ang tunay na meaning ng pagiging national team player. Kahit mabasa nila yan comment nung nasa 12.27 bale wala rin. Hindi nila maiintindihan yan. Puro Puso sa pakikipag basag ulo LANG ang alam nila at yung pagiging heartthrobs KUNO nila. #TEAMKACHEAPAN #Aminin
Kahit sinong pikon pwede lang makipag suntukan sa court pero hindi kahit sino lang basta ang pwede mag represent sa Bandila ng Pilipinas. Pero sa nangyaring ito parang to become part of the Philippine team is really nothing special, nothing to aspire for. Thumbs up 12.27!
Good comment 12:27 on all points, but even if you understand Chot Reyes’s position now, don’t you think that he should resign his post for his poor leadership? As for the team line up, they should build a new team, grow them like how Coach Jacobs did before. — Old school basketball fan
If he's going to contradict his team's action publicly, then it means they didn't have his support at para bang he abandoned them already. For sure, pagsasabihan talaga sila ni Coach Chot in private. Pareho lang yan sa kasabihang, the captain goes down with the ship, walang iwanan.
7:38 coming from a fellow filipino, it's more sickening to know how you condone such wrong doings. It could have been better if they played well and win the game, isnt that the best revenge? If I get bullied I 'll show them how great I am in my field that's how you teach a bully. You don't teach a bully be by turning yourself into a bully too.
8:49 i still root for them and will cheer them on but will not tolerate their actions. If you really care for them, sana naisip mo na pwedeng madisqualify o maban yung Philippine team sa ginawa nila. Ewan ko lang kung suportahan mo padin sila pag nangyari yun.
gusto ko ma-ban ung mga players na nakisali imbes na umawat. palitan na lang mga yan, maraming ibang players na kaya ang pressure kahit matinding asaran na sa court
Ang bastos mo namang sumagot 1:45! Ano bang masama sa koment ni 1:21 kung warm up pa nga lang pala binubully na sila nung isang Australian bat di nila kinausap o tinanong ng mahinahon para di na umabot sa gulo sa mismong laro.
Lol at those commenting against 1:45 and 1:54, pag against sa inyo iisang tao agad? Hindi ba pwedeng marami din yung marunong magisip? Im not them pero i hate what our team did. Tama naman yung sinabi ni 1:45, sana kinausap nila ng maayos or nireport nila. Kaya nga ibang lahi yung referees para i avoid yung pagiging bias. Ilang beses rin natawagan ng offensive and technical fouls yung kalaban. Meaning nakikita din nung referee yung kapisikalan ng mga aussies. Eh wala, gusto nyo laban kung laban haha, atapang atao tayo eh, sino napahiya sa dulo? I salute Fajardo, Norwood and Amer.
Sana nag apologize na lang. Baka matuwa pa ako sa kanila. Hindi na importante kung sino ang mali sa dalawang team. They should learn to accept their mistakes. Napaka cheap naman talaga yung nangyari. Nakakahiya ang pinas.
Apak na apak ba pagka-Pilipino mo? Baka kaya hindi mo matangap na may pagkakamali ang Gilas at mga non-Gilas na nakisuntok. Ano ba namang sabihin din nilang may mali sila at magsorry. Ipilit mo pa na tungkol sa Philippines at Australia na nabully tayo kesyo ganito, kesya ganya. Kung batayan mo lang ng pagka-Pilipino mo ang mga nangyari baka dapat I-assess mo sarili mo kasi ang shallow eh.
10:14 naapi sya sa bayan nya eh lols. Nasa Pilipinas sila bakit ka magpapaapi? Nasatin crowd sana ginamit nila yun na motivation hindi yung nanuntok sila. Sana pinanalo nila laban para umuwing luhaan yung mga banyaga e di asar talo sana yung mga yun. We fight for our ego and pride the wrong way.
ilang pinoy ang andun, 50,000+? ilan ang aussies, 20+? napakababa naman ng tingin nio sa sarili nio para paapekto kayo sa ganyang kakonti. Tapos ang representatives natin, nagriot na lang, imbes talunin ang kalaban sa basketball. Doble ang pagka-loser
I'll react like what the Australian Coach did. He didnt let the people on their bench join the rumble. If youre a good coach, you should know the rules, if you feel violated, there is a right venue to vent. Hindi yung hayaan mong makirumble yung team mo, ayun tambak na nga nagmukha pangkawawa sa dulo.
I agree, there is a right venue to vent. Eh wala eh. Wala silang pakialam sa mga kababayan nila. Para sa mga sarili lang nilang pride ang pinapairal nila. Mayayaman naman sila, kahit pa pumangit ang imahe ng pilipinas sa ibang bansa, basta sila mayaman sila. They can migrate to other countries nman eh.
Ganyan ang team. Ganyan ang coach/boss. Kahit pagalitan kau pag kau kau na lang pero sa harap ng iba, united front pa din. Salute coach! Walang iwanan .#puso
Sana talaga pag sabihan nya. Pero at least sana nag sorry sya sa nangyaring gulo at least in behalf dun sa mga nanuod bumyahe and bumili ng tickets just to support them. Mas nakakarespeto yun.
10:47 so pag ang anak may ginawang mali dapat bang sabihin pa in public ng magulang na kahihiyan ang anak nya? Suporta ang kailangan, ang pangangaral pede in private yan.
04:07 I will apologize sa nangyare. Dahil sa init ng laban nabahiran ang pangalan ng Pilipinas pero di ako magaapologize sa Australia. Bastos na kung bastos but they deserve it.
Hindi maitatama ng kasalanan ng iba ang sarili nating pagkakamali. The sins of others do not make us holy. Their mistakes cannot justify our own wrongdoings. Their mistakes are theirs and our mistakes are ours. They are responsible for their wrong actions and we are responsible for ours.
Iba iba pero same meaning. Pero mahirap makipag away sa Gilas or supporters nila dahil sabi nga nila, sila ang may #puso.
Kung warm ups pa lang pala ginaganun na sila bat nga di nila kinausap ang coach nung kabilang team wala namang masama kung tinanong nila bat ginaganun ang mga players natin
Tama lang yan. Bully namna talaga sila. Sumobra na. Sa tingin ko nagpipigil lang yang gilas dahil nga ayaw may masabi ang kapwa pinoy pati na ang ibang nanonood sa buong mundo pero kong isa tayo sa knila malamang ganun din gawin natin kong umabot na tayo sa sukdulan
Makasukdulan naman tong mga to. Natatalo tayo sa game kaya sila napikon. Tauntings are a simple part of basketball ganyan din naman yang mga yan sa PBA asaran. Kahit sa NBA may ganyan kanya kanyang home court pa yun ah, may nakita kang rumble na ganyan? Only in the Philippines. Hirap makipag talo sa mga to kala mo aping api.
Kung isa ko sa kanila malamang nagwalkout nalang ako sa kahihiyan.
5:51 offensive foul tawag doon tama ka sinimplihan kse nga sumusubra na yung australyanong yun but still part pa din ng game ang ganung moves. Itatayo pa nga sana yung natumbang players. Kaso yung mayabang na australyano harap harapa siniko sa leeg c pogoy. Alangan panoodin lang. hello!! Nagpaka totoo tayo pag nakita mo kaibigan mong sinaktan di mo na maiisip ibang tao at magiging outcome ng ginawa mo
"Nagpaka totoo tayo pag nakita mo kaibigan mong sinaktan di mo na maiisip ibang tao at magiging outcome ng ginawa mo"
Tutal proud ka sa logic mo, doesnt this apply to Kickert as well? Nakita nyang sinaktan si Goulding ayun ginanti nya tropa nya. Stop being a hypocrite, ano satin lang iaapply yung " ilaban mo tropa hanggang sa huli?" Tayo pwede natin iganti kakampi natin, pag sila gumawa nun bully na sila? Wag pavictim tol. Nakakahiya.
Naaalala ko sa isang time out nung 3rd qtr galit na galit si coach at nireremind nya to touchen up on defense. Sinabi nya na he wants to see asses on the floor...so naginstruct siya to be more physical...which I guess led sa brawl.
im sad but i cant blame them. be a gracious host o hayaang bastusin ka sa sarili mong bayan. when the Australian hit the Gilas player he crossed the line, hindi basketball ang usapan don, hundi na FIBA dignidad na.
I feel like a lot has just joined the bandwagon just to protect gilas. Nangbebrainwash na nauna yung mga kalabang team. Eh kitang kita naman na si Pugoy nauna.
"when the Australian hit the Gilas player he crossed the line, hindi basketball ang usapan don, hundi na FIBA dignidad na"
FYI we are the first one who crossed the line. Kickert saw what Pugoy did Kaya sya gumanti.
And wag nyo kong babalikan na may colonial mentality ako, because I watched the game and was cheering for them until the end kahit alam kong wala nang pagasa dahil 3 players nalang yung natira satin. Stop victimizing the Gilas. Hindi ikagagaling ng Pinas yan.
"dapat they played professionally".easier said than done. di yata pwede icompare yong thinking at feeling ng audience vs. ng players s court mismo. di natin alam a ng pinagdaanan nila bago makarating dyan. then di natin alam yong situation nila sa court mismo. whatever lead them to do that sila nakaka alam non. i still na professional ang mga players natin. may mali pero hindi yata tayo ang nasa posisyon para mag judge. lets hope na natutunan nila ang mga lessons sa mga nangyari at sana maging supportive pa rin sa kapwa natin FILIPINO.
May tamang venue yang ganyan, hindi yung makikipagsuntukan ka para mapaglaban ang dignidad mo. Tingin mo ba tumaas dignidad nila sa ginawa nila, hindi! They are a big embarassment.
11:58 warm up pa lang at first half tinatawag na silang monkey. So, okay lang pala na laitin tayo? Mali na sumali ang mga nasa bench. The point is, Hindi na nila na-take ang pagiging bastos ni mga Aussies. We do not tolerate the wrongdoings of GILAS, but we do not put them down!
Coach ikaw din me kasalanan bakit ganyan nangyari hindi mu na handle ang team sa pressure nila and hinayaan mu lang lahat ng nasa bench na nakisali sa group. Tanggalin k na sana!
Don’t even justify the immoral actions of Gilas. They’re both wrong, but throwing a chair from a far away distance? That’s just unacceptable. Where’s their dignity and sportsmanship?
So sasaktan mo lahat ng tatawag syo n unggoy? Ganon? Ang sakit ba? So gaganti ka at manununtok? Sus napakagandang pag uugali yang ganyan. Bagay n bagay ka s kanto.
If we reverse the situation , and it happened here in Australia and the Aussies did that to the Pinoys , I can guarantee their coach would be so embarrassed of the players disgusting behaviour .. The coach would apologise and not justify this unacceptable behaviour ! Not once have I seen an Aussie coach standing by his team if they did anything wrong ..
Parehong may mali both teams. Kung australiano ako, ikakahiya ko ginawa ng mga australiano eh pilipino ako kaya ikinakahiya ko ginawa ng mga pinoy. Only goes to show, para sa mga sarili lang nila ang paglalaro nila, wag na nila banggitin na para sa pilipinas yan. They are only thinking of themselves, their own fame, their own pride, their own riches. Nakakasuka!
Nung kinukwento sakin ng friend ko, sa gilas ako kampi kase makabayan ako eh. Nung napanood ko video, nabwisit ako sa selfish pride ng mga gilas players. Kala mo nman sobra silang naapi. Pareho nmang may mali both teams pero mas mali ang gilas. Hindi na nila inisip na they are representing the country. Nakakahiya sila. You cannot blame other countries na matakot pag naglaro sila dito kase kuyog pala ang pinoys.
Totally agree with 12:27! Our current team has no grit to help them be the winning team. They already lost even before they played he game. Like you said it’s all about mental toughness, the iron will to win for national pride. But their personal pride won out. The final score showed all that.
Ano ba naman yung mag apologize? Eh mali naman talaga yung manakit. Ano kung yung kabilang team yung nauna? Hindi na yun self-defense may mga sumali pa nga sa upakan. No one expects you to throw your boys under the bus but what is wrong is wrong and you should be the first to teach them.
suntukan nalang ba ang pwedeng itapat pag pakiramdam ng team eh physically sinasaktan sila? wala bang pwedeng paraaan na magreklamo? Imagine if every Filipino thinks this way, eh di ultimo laro sa kalye nauuwi na lang sa suntukan. Pikon!
Chot still has a lot to answer for. He was saying na warm up pa lang na-hit na sila nung aussie player. Well I've just seen footage on the web showing Gilas overstepping the centre line during warm-up, tapos there was an attempt by one of the gilas players to trip one of the boomers. Nagalit tuloy yung aussie, kaso lang blamed and shoved the wrong gilas player. May nagsasabi na pina-urong sila ng boomers back to their own half, pero hindi naman sila nakinig. Pasaway? So as you can see from the get go, mainit na. So coach, please explain.. what were your players doing past the centre line during warm up? And how did you reprimand your player who tried to trip an opposing player during warm up? Bakit ganun ang asal ng mga players mo? Host tayo di ba? Mukhang mali ata yung recollection mo eh.
Ginawang sabong ni Chot ang laro. After this disgrace, Gilas lost right to be called Philippine National Team and should not represent country at any level of Basketball competition.
Aussie basketball officials apologized for their team's share in the in the incident, they owned their part in the mistakes. How about Gilas? Nagyabang pa? Di nyo kame kaya boy ni pingris? Tambak kaya daanin na lang sa riot.
That is hardly an explanation. He basically justified the team's wrongdoing. If anything, he came across as unapologetic and arrogant. Yes, coach, the rest of us 100M+ Filipinos were not there, so we don't know what happened. Still, from where we stand, you and your BOYS were an embarrassment. You should be ashamed of yourselves. The classy move would be to own up to what you did - no excuses, no fingerpointing!
ReplyDelete@1:18 Filipinos basketball players were hit not once but 5 times and you still expect them to just take it and not retaliate? They went there to play basketball not get whipped, how about Australian players showing respect, good sportmanship and be a good host country first. Why should Gilas players take all the blame when Kickert was also an aggressor.
DeleteBig check!
Delete1:18 sikuhin kita while playing basketball, wag kang gaganti ha. Ikaw mag sorry sakin kasi bisita ako
DeleteBakit nyo ba laging sinasabi na aussies unang sumiko? Si Pugoy unang nanakit kay Goulding, si Goulding hindi gumanti. Nakita ni Kickert, sya gumanti para kay Goulding. Lets stop playing the victim just to justify their actions. If we really want to talk about what started the chaos, unfortunately, we instigated the first attack kaya nagkagulo wag nyong itwist yung nangyari.
Delete9:28 tutal gantihan gusto mo, ayun ginanti ni kickert si goulding nung siniko ni Pugoy so does that make his actions right already?
eh di sikuhin mo rin while on court, hindi yung nanununtok with matching resbak from the bench. alam nyo ibig sabihin ng overkill?
DeleteA lot of us are torn right now...some strongly justify Gilas’ unsportsmanlike behavior as some sort of a battle cry against bullying. But I beg to differ. Why?
DeleteAbove all else: the National Flag.
That is what they are. Their jerseys are not mere playing uniforms. Regardless of the bullying and/or the taunting, they carried the national colors, they were The Philippines, 24 hours a day, while they were in competition. That is what these higher tiered athletes are supposed to be. They train on a higher level not only to hone their skills, they sacrifice so much because all that they go through is meant to teach them mental toughness, to be the best of the best in the country. To be able to withstand and endure whatever comes. To carry the national flag in their minds and their hearts—Always.
Team Australia demonstrated unsportsmanlike behavior-yes, but did The Philippine Team have to throw it down with them in the sh*ts? As athletes, there is always an internal voice that encourages to keep going, to show their greatest efforts, in this case, on the hard court. To stay the course and perform their duty for the flag, for the country. They could’ve just gone out there to help their teammate and facilitate to stop the brawling. That could’ve been done...it has been done before. What happened to mental toughness? To national pride? All gone in a second because their collective emotions got the better of them. I know, not everybody will agree with me here, but my disappointment stems mostly from the missed opportunity to “show-up” on the world stage, to be the model athletes to our youth, to be above board, to be beyond reproach, and be the best they can be in all aspects...and if all else fails, to live up to their name—they are after all called “Gilas Pilipinas.” Chot Reyes is a great leader, and he is standing by his team, I understand that. I sure hope that he not only remind them of how good they are, but to also refresh in their minds and hearts the value of wearing the Gilas name, and what it means to carry the national flag, that when they are called to compete, they are called to be their nation’s champions (win or lose) in every corner of the world, wherever competition takes them.
Mabuhay ang Pilipinas.
11:28 alam mo ba yung offensive foul? Offensive nga lang ung tinawag kasi ang basketball pisikal talaga. Pero ung bigla mong saktan na wala na sa laro tulad ng ginawa ni Kickert ibang usapan yun. Kaya maraming taong nabubully eh kasi may mga taong tulad mo. Kababayan mo ung unang sinaktan uy.
Delete12:27 THIS!! The chance to represent your country is an honor and privilege, not a right!
Delete9:28 Ang sama ng loob mong mag-sorry sa AU dahil "bisita" lang sila dito sa atin? You are completely missing the point. Tanggalin mo yung element ng lokasyon ng laban. Sabihin nating they were in a neutral location, neither in the PH or in AU. Tama na bang makipagbasag-ulo then?
Deletemaling mali kasi ang nangyari na naging circus at nakisali pa sa bugbugan yung mga nasa bench, parang rumesbak pa.
DeleteHay, 12:27. If only coach Reyes and the team can read your comment. Napaisip rin ako na, bakit ba parang ang iinit ng ulo natin lahat? Nakakahiya na ang itchura ng bansa natin pagdating sa governance, yung sports yan pa naman ang unifying outlet mayroon tayo, tapos ganyan pa ang nangyari. Mga Gilas players hindi nagawang magpakitang gilas para sa Pilipinas sa harap ng buong mundo. Kainis ng sobra.
DeleteMahina yung mga batch ng players na yan. Konting pressure lang yan kung tutuusin, tapos si Pingris nag selfie pa. Ang yayabang! Walang kwentang senior member ng team. Imbes na maging leader, naging follower sa mga pasaway. Mas may class yung mga players bago yung batch na yan, at magaling na team leader si Chris Tiu, malaking diperensya yung meron magaling na sportsman at gentleman na leader tulad ni Tiu.
DeleteAdd ko lang 12:27, nakakadisappoint ang poor leadership ng Philippine team sa totoo lang. Hindi magiging weak, pikon, at basagulero mga player natin kung magaling ang mga naglelead sa kanila, muka sa coaching, sa training, pati sa senior players. Wala na yung panahon na yung tibay at galing ng mga players natin pinapakita sa court. Matanda na ako, panahon nila Samboy Lim, Hector Calma ang kinalakihan ko na Philippine team, nakakainspire sila manalo o matalo nakakainspire sila dahil sa maayos at matapang nila itinawid yung laro bilang Pilipino. Walang wala itong sila Pingris & co. pagdating sa karakter at leadership. Mga weakling.
DeleteI agree with 12.27. It was a poor showing because it showed poor character all around. The team showed false pride and weak spirits. The heart of a champion doesn’t reside in the hearts of these players. What a damn shame.
DeleteSorry 1227, I agree with some of your points but I disagree with the part about Chot Reyes. That team has cultivated an undisciplined behavior because their coach ignored the signs. If he ran a tight ship his players will not act the way they did. Maybe you are friends with Chot that’s why you are complimenting him. He is the captain of the ship, so what his team is, he is.
Delete4:07, Grabe ka rin eh no? Do you expect Chot Reyes to throw his team under the bus? Of course he will stand by his team. Pero behind closed doors pagsasabihan din niya players niya. Naglaro rin sa Philippine Team yan dati at matagal ng coach kaya alam niya gagawin niya.
Delete3:57, Sir or Ma’am, Absolutely agree their actions are not inspiring at all. Unfortunately, they don’t make them like they used to. Mga walang disiplina pero ubod ng yayabang.
12:27, Very well said. They need to hear or read what you have said right there. Gone are the days when we had national players who took to heart what it meant to “carry the National colors”. Tong mga napanood natin, akala mo mga naglalaro lang sa cheap na Liga sa kung saang kanto kung makapatol. Agree with how mentally weak sila, they couldn’t focus on playing ball because they were psyched out even before they started the game. All that happened is bad for Philippine basketball.
BOYS weak under pressure + Coach and senior players w/ no moral leadership = 🇵🇭 team
DeleteSimple lang, hindi naiintindihan ng mga players ang tunay na meaning ng pagiging national team player. Kahit mabasa nila yan comment nung nasa 12.27 bale wala rin. Hindi nila maiintindihan yan. Puro Puso sa pakikipag basag ulo LANG ang alam nila at yung pagiging heartthrobs KUNO nila. #TEAMKACHEAPAN #Aminin
DeleteKahit sinong pikon pwede lang makipag suntukan sa court pero hindi kahit sino lang basta ang pwede mag represent sa Bandila ng Pilipinas. Pero sa nangyaring ito parang to become part of the Philippine team is really nothing special, nothing to aspire for. Thumbs up 12.27!
DeleteGood comment 12:27 on all points, but even if you understand Chot Reyes’s position now, don’t you think that he should resign his post for his poor leadership? As for the team line up, they should build a new team, grow them like how Coach Jacobs did before. — Old school basketball fan
Deleteyan ba ang coach? what a shallow reasoning kaya naman pala pati players mga shalliw din.
ReplyDeleteIf he's going to contradict his team's action publicly, then it means they didn't have his support at para bang he abandoned them already. For sure, pagsasabihan talaga sila ni Coach Chot in private. Pareho lang yan sa kasabihang, the captain goes down with the ship, walang iwanan.
DeleteI agree and well said 1:50am
Delete1:20 coming from a fellow Filipino, sickening. If you get bullied, let me know what your reaction be.
DeleteWag kita makikita tili ng tili pag naglalaro ang /gilas ha, ipokrita ka 1:20
Delete8:49 ay hindi ako titili teh. i lost my respect na sa kanila. an embarassment
Delete7:38 coming from a fellow filipino, it's more sickening to know how you condone such wrong doings. It could have been better if they played well and win the game, isnt that the best revenge? If I get bullied I 'll show them how great I am in my field that's how you teach a bully. You don't teach a bully be by turning yourself into a bully too.
Delete8:49 i still root for them and will cheer them on but will not tolerate their actions. If you really care for them, sana naisip mo na pwedeng madisqualify o maban yung Philippine team sa ginawa nila. Ewan ko lang kung suportahan mo padin sila pag nangyari yun.
11:33 agree
Deletegusto ko ma-ban ung mga players na nakisali imbes na umawat. palitan na lang mga yan, maraming ibang players na kaya ang pressure kahit matinding asaran na sa court
Nakipag away nalang kasi natalo. Kadiri! Anuba!
DeleteThen why didn't you asked Kicker directly during the warm ups "Why are you hitting us Mr. Kicker? Do you have any problem with us?"
ReplyDelete*ask i mean. Sorry po
DeleteIkaw na ang maraming alam, may script ka pang nalalaman.
Delete01:45 tama ka, natawa nga ako jan kay 1:21 lol
DeleteAng bastos mo namang sumagot 1:45! Ano bang masama sa koment ni 1:21 kung warm up pa nga lang pala binubully na sila nung isang Australian bat di nila kinausap o tinanong ng mahinahon para di na umabot sa gulo sa mismong laro.
DeleteLOL si 1:45 at 1:54 sinasagot ang sarili nyang comment hahaha
DeleteNapansin ko din na si 1:45 at 1:54 ay iisa. Sinasagot ang sarili mwahahhaa
DeleteNo, 1:45 and 1:54 are just being logical. That's what a professional coach will do.
Delete2:24 wala kng alam. puro ka lng bash.
DeleteSportsmanship. That's what we are lacking.
DeleteMay point ka bes
DeleteLol at those commenting against 1:45 and 1:54, pag against sa inyo iisang tao agad? Hindi ba pwedeng marami din yung marunong magisip? Im not them pero i hate what our team did. Tama naman yung sinabi ni 1:45, sana kinausap nila ng maayos or nireport nila. Kaya nga ibang lahi yung referees para i avoid yung pagiging bias. Ilang beses rin natawagan ng offensive and technical fouls yung kalaban. Meaning nakikita din nung referee yung kapisikalan ng mga aussies. Eh wala, gusto nyo laban kung laban haha, atapang atao tayo eh, sino napahiya sa dulo? I salute Fajardo, Norwood and Amer.
DeleteAng gulo mo rin 11:38 eh, si 1:45 at 1:54 nga ang sumusuporta sa ginawa ng mga basagulero!
DeleteGanun talaga pag asal kanto!
DeleteSana nag apologize na lang. Baka matuwa pa ako sa kanila. Hindi na importante kung sino ang mali sa dalawang team. They should learn to accept their mistakes. Napaka cheap naman talaga yung nangyari. Nakakahiya ang pinas.
ReplyDeleteNakakahiya dahil?!?! Hmmm... Lumaban at di nagpaapi sa sariling bansa?! Un ba ung nakakahiya?!
DeleteApak na apak ba pagka-Pilipino mo? Baka kaya hindi mo matangap na may pagkakamali ang Gilas at mga non-Gilas na nakisuntok. Ano ba namang sabihin din nilang may mali sila at magsorry. Ipilit mo pa na tungkol sa Philippines at Australia na nabully tayo kesyo ganito, kesya ganya. Kung batayan mo lang ng pagka-Pilipino mo ang mga nangyari baka dapat I-assess mo sarili mo kasi ang shallow eh.
Deletehiyang hiya naman ako sa kalinisan ng puso mo 1:35 , sana na lng na aapply mo yan in your everyday life.
DeleteItong si 2:00 kanina pa ito sa itaas eh talagang suportado nito ang pagkabutangero ng mga basagulero!
Delete10:14 naapi sya sa bayan nya eh lols. Nasa Pilipinas sila bakit ka magpapaapi? Nasatin crowd sana ginamit nila yun na motivation hindi yung nanuntok sila. Sana pinanalo nila laban para umuwing luhaan yung mga banyaga e di asar talo sana yung mga yun. We fight for our ego and pride the wrong way.
Deleteilang pinoy ang andun, 50,000+?
Deleteilan ang aussies, 20+?
napakababa naman ng tingin nio sa sarili nio para paapekto kayo sa ganyang kakonti. Tapos ang representatives natin, nagriot na lang, imbes talunin ang kalaban sa basketball. Doble ang pagka-loser
You can’t justify your players’ behavior because of what Kicker did. It’s a sport and you should practice professionalism at all times.
ReplyDeleteIf you were in his shoes, what would your reaction be? Hmmmm...
DeleteI'll react like what the Australian Coach did. He didnt let the people on their bench join the rumble. If youre a good coach, you should know the rules, if you feel violated, there is a right venue to vent. Hindi yung hayaan mong makirumble yung team mo, ayun tambak na nga nagmukha pangkawawa sa dulo.
DeleteI agree, there is a right venue to vent. Eh wala eh. Wala silang pakialam sa mga kababayan nila. Para sa mga sarili lang nilang pride ang pinapairal nila. Mayayaman naman sila, kahit pa pumangit ang imahe ng pilipinas sa ibang bansa, basta sila mayaman sila. They can migrate to other countries nman eh.
DeleteGanyan ang team. Ganyan ang coach/boss. Kahit pagalitan kau pag kau kau na lang pero sa harap ng iba, united front pa din. Salute coach! Walang iwanan .#puso
ReplyDeleteAgree!!!! Walang Iwanann!
Delete2:21 agree! Ganyan nga di ilalaglag sa iba pero pag sila sila na lang napagsasabihan din. Walang iwanan!
Deletewalan iwanan pati sa kahihiyan.
DeleteSana talaga pag sabihan nya. Pero at least sana nag sorry sya sa nangyaring gulo at least in behalf dun sa mga nanuod bumyahe and bumili ng tickets just to support them. Mas nakakarespeto yun.
Delete10:47 so pag ang anak may ginawang mali dapat bang sabihin pa in public ng magulang na kahihiyan ang anak nya? Suporta ang kailangan, ang pangangaral pede in private yan.
Delete12:34 ang layo ng comparison. d bq pwedeng mqgsorry si coach? judtify your kabastusan.
Delete04:07 I will apologize sa nangyare. Dahil sa init ng laban nabahiran ang pangalan ng Pilipinas pero di ako magaapologize sa Australia. Bastos na kung bastos but they deserve it.
Delete5:55 ay teh ayan ng mga loko isa isa ng nag-aapologize and mind you nag apologized din sila sa AU. eh ano ka ngayon hahaha!
DeleteHindi maitatama ng kasalanan ng iba ang sarili nating pagkakamali.
ReplyDeleteThe sins of others do not make us holy.
Their mistakes cannot justify our own wrongdoings.
Their mistakes are theirs and our mistakes are ours.
They are responsible for their wrong actions and we are responsible for ours.
Iba iba pero same meaning. Pero mahirap makipag away sa Gilas or supporters nila dahil sabi nga nila, sila ang may #puso.
Kung warm ups pa lang pala ginaganun na sila bat nga di nila kinausap ang coach nung kabilang team wala namang masama kung tinanong nila bat ginaganun ang mga players natin
ReplyDeleteNo amount of explanation can justify what Gilas did. What a disgrace!
ReplyDeleteDisgrace?? You were not there in the first place. Do not let anyone bully you in your own home.
DeleteTama lang yan. Bully namna talaga sila. Sumobra na. Sa tingin ko nagpipigil lang yang gilas dahil nga ayaw may masabi ang kapwa pinoy pati na ang ibang nanonood sa buong mundo pero kong isa tayo sa knila malamang ganun din gawin natin kong umabot na tayo sa sukdulan
DeleteMakasukdulan naman tong mga to. Natatalo tayo sa game kaya sila napikon. Tauntings are a simple part of basketball ganyan din naman yang mga yan sa PBA asaran. Kahit sa NBA may ganyan kanya kanyang home court pa yun ah, may nakita kang rumble na ganyan? Only in the Philippines. Hirap makipag talo sa mga to kala mo aping api.
DeleteKung isa ko sa kanila malamang nagwalkout nalang ako sa kahihiyan.
do not be a disgrace in your own place! 7:45
DeleteUna nanapak ng intensive ang autraliano laro yan di maiiwasan ang sikuan banggaan pero ung sa autraliano sinadya nya papanapak
ReplyDeleteHala? Imbento ka te?
DeleteNauna ng intensive na pananapk ang autraliano game yan di maiiwasan ang banggaan sikuan
ReplyDeleteKung nanood ka talaga, Si Pogoy ang nauna. siniko nya ng Pasimple yung long hair sa tyan.
Delete5:51 offensive foul tawag doon tama ka sinimplihan kse nga sumusubra na yung australyanong yun but still part pa din ng game ang ganung moves. Itatayo pa nga sana yung natumbang players. Kaso yung mayabang na australyano harap harapa siniko sa leeg c pogoy. Alangan panoodin lang. hello!! Nagpaka totoo tayo pag nakita mo kaibigan mong sinaktan di mo na maiisip ibang tao at magiging outcome ng ginawa mo
Delete"Nagpaka totoo tayo pag nakita mo kaibigan mong sinaktan di mo na maiisip ibang tao at magiging outcome ng ginawa mo"
DeleteTutal proud ka sa logic mo, doesnt this apply to Kickert as well? Nakita nyang sinaktan si Goulding ayun ginanti nya tropa nya. Stop being a hypocrite, ano satin lang iaapply yung " ilaban mo tropa hanggang sa huli?" Tayo pwede natin iganti kakampi natin, pag sila gumawa nun bully na sila? Wag pavictim tol. Nakakahiya.
Pag sarili ko lang iisipin ko at wala akong pakialam sa kahihiyan ng mga kababayan ko, OO makikipagsuntukan ako! Laban kung laban!
DeleteClassless talaga ang gilas. Overkill naman yung ginawa nila kinuyog na nga yung isang player dun sa gilid.
ReplyDeletePalibhasa mga batang kalye kasi
DeleteThere is more PUNch in the Philippines. 💪💪💪
ReplyDeletewitty!!! hhahaha
DeleteNaaalala ko sa isang time out nung 3rd qtr galit na galit si coach at nireremind nya to touchen up on defense. Sinabi nya na he wants to see asses on the floor...so naginstruct siya to be more physical...which I guess led sa brawl.
ReplyDeleteItong Pinoy Pride na ito ay wala nasa tamang lugar minsan. This kind of pride has become an arrogance.
ReplyDeleteSelfish pride. Wag nila idamay buong pilipinas sa pa puso puso nila.
DeletePa puso puso pa kayo, try to combined it with some manners .such an embarrassment.
ReplyDeleteim sad but i cant blame them. be a gracious host o hayaang bastusin ka sa sarili mong bayan. when the Australian hit the Gilas player he crossed the line, hindi basketball ang usapan don, hundi na FIBA dignidad na.
ReplyDeleteThis, ikaw lang yata pinaka may sense sa lahat ng comments about this.
DeleteI feel like a lot has just joined the bandwagon just to protect gilas. Nangbebrainwash na nauna yung mga kalabang team. Eh kitang kita naman na si Pugoy nauna.
Delete"when the Australian hit the Gilas player he crossed the line, hindi basketball ang usapan don, hundi na FIBA dignidad na"
FYI we are the first one who crossed the line. Kickert saw what Pugoy did Kaya sya gumanti.
And wag nyo kong babalikan na may colonial mentality ako, because I watched the game and was cheering for them until the end kahit alam kong wala nang pagasa dahil 3 players nalang yung natira satin. Stop victimizing the Gilas. Hindi ikagagaling ng Pinas yan.
Kaso mga bes nauna yung Gilas manakit ng Aussie. Panoorin nyo ulet.
Delete"dapat they played professionally".easier said than done. di yata pwede icompare yong thinking at feeling ng audience vs. ng players s court mismo. di natin alam a ng pinagdaanan nila bago makarating dyan. then di natin alam yong situation nila sa court mismo. whatever lead them to do that sila nakaka alam non. i still na professional ang mga players natin. may mali pero hindi yata tayo ang nasa posisyon para mag judge. lets hope na natutunan nila ang mga lessons sa mga nangyari at sana maging supportive pa rin sa kapwa natin FILIPINO.
Deletesa liit ng mga pinoy compared to Aussie, ang lakas naman ng loob magsimula ng gulo.
DeleteMay tamang venue yang ganyan, hindi yung makikipagsuntukan ka para mapaglaban ang dignidad mo. Tingin mo ba tumaas dignidad nila sa ginawa nila, hindi! They are a big embarassment.
Delete11:58 warm up pa lang at first half tinatawag na silang monkey. So, okay lang pala na laitin tayo? Mali na sumali ang mga nasa bench. The point is, Hindi na nila na-take ang pagiging bastos ni mga Aussies. We do not tolerate the wrongdoings of GILAS, but we do not put them down!
DeleteCoach ikaw din me kasalanan bakit ganyan nangyari hindi mu na handle ang team sa pressure nila and hinayaan mu lang lahat ng nasa bench na nakisali sa group. Tanggalin k na sana!
ReplyDeleteNakakahiya talaga ginawa ng Pinas. Nahiya tuloy ako sa nga coworkers kong Australians. I can't wait to get my citizenship.
ReplyDeleteBat k nman mahihiya, a few filipino will not define who you are.
Deletetanggalin na yang Gilas na yan, wala naman kayong maiuwing tropeo may pa puso pang nalalaman mga bano naman kayo.
ReplyDeleteNaunang mambalya yung Aussie. Ang lakas mg loob nyang gawin dito pa sa bansa natin.
ReplyDeleteDon’t even justify the immoral actions of Gilas. They’re both wrong, but throwing a chair from a far away distance? That’s just unacceptable. Where’s their dignity and sportsmanship?
ReplyDeleteImmoral? How about calling Filipinos monkey? Isnt that degrading a human being?
DeleteSo sasaktan mo lahat ng tatawag syo n unggoy? Ganon? Ang sakit ba? So gaganti ka at manununtok? Sus napakagandang pag uugali yang ganyan. Bagay n bagay ka s kanto.
Deletedapat mawala na yan. sayang lang pera ng bayan pinapasweldo sa mga yan. wala na ngang naiuuwung tropeo mga basagulero pa.
ReplyDeleteIf we reverse the situation , and it happened here in Australia and the Aussies did that to the Pinoys , I can guarantee their coach would be so embarrassed of the players disgusting behaviour .. The coach would apologise and not justify this unacceptable behaviour ! Not once have I seen an Aussie coach standing by his team if they did anything wrong ..
ReplyDeleteThey might even resign from their post because of embarrassment like what happened in cricket.
DeleteWala nga kase tayong delikadesa mga bes.. grabe noh?
DeleteParehong may mali both teams. Kung australiano ako, ikakahiya ko ginawa ng mga australiano eh pilipino ako kaya ikinakahiya ko ginawa ng mga pinoy. Only goes to show, para sa mga sarili lang nila ang paglalaro nila, wag na nila banggitin na para sa pilipinas yan. They are only thinking of themselves, their own fame, their own pride, their own riches. Nakakasuka!
ReplyDeleteItigil na kase yang basketball na yan. Sa boxing talaga magaling ang mga pinoy lol
ReplyDeleteAre Australians ba fan ng basketball talaga? I think iba Ang support na support nila it's not basketball.
ReplyDeleteNung kinukwento sakin ng friend ko, sa gilas ako kampi kase makabayan ako eh. Nung napanood ko video, nabwisit ako sa selfish pride ng mga gilas players. Kala mo nman sobra silang naapi. Pareho nmang may mali both teams pero mas mali ang gilas. Hindi na nila inisip na they are representing the country. Nakakahiya sila. You cannot blame other countries na matakot pag naglaro sila dito kase kuyog pala ang pinoys.
ReplyDeleteLoser!
ReplyDeleteTotally agree with 12:27! Our current team has no grit to help them be the winning team. They already lost even before they played he game. Like you said it’s all about mental toughness, the iron will to win for national pride. But their personal pride won out. The final score showed all that.
ReplyDeleteAno ba naman yung mag apologize? Eh mali naman talaga yung manakit. Ano kung yung kabilang team yung nauna? Hindi na yun self-defense may mga sumali pa nga sa upakan. No one expects you to throw your boys under the bus but what is wrong is wrong and you should be the first to teach them.
ReplyDeletesuntukan nalang ba ang pwedeng itapat pag pakiramdam ng team eh physically sinasaktan sila? wala bang pwedeng paraaan na magreklamo? Imagine if every Filipino thinks this way, eh di ultimo laro sa kalye nauuwi na lang sa suntukan. Pikon!
ReplyDeleteChot still has a lot to answer for. He was saying na warm up pa lang na-hit na sila nung aussie player. Well I've just seen footage on the web showing Gilas overstepping the centre line during warm-up, tapos there was an attempt by one of the gilas players to trip one of the boomers. Nagalit tuloy yung aussie, kaso lang blamed and shoved the wrong gilas player. May nagsasabi na pina-urong sila ng boomers back to their own half, pero hindi naman sila nakinig. Pasaway? So as you can see from the get go, mainit na. So coach, please explain.. what were your players doing past the centre line during warm up? And how did you reprimand your player who tried to trip an opposing player during warm up? Bakit ganun ang asal ng mga players mo? Host tayo di ba? Mukhang mali ata yung recollection mo eh.
ReplyDeleteI'm not gonna judge because I don't exactly know how i would react If I were in their shoes.
ReplyDeletetama. its so easy to say this and that cause we are not the one involve but if you are are one of them...you will react differently.
DeleteAll goes down to Chot and his team officials. This is not the first time Team Chot embarass Philippine Basketball. Time to sack him.
ReplyDeleteGinawang sabong ni Chot ang laro. After this disgrace, Gilas lost right to be called Philippine National Team and should not represent country at any level of Basketball competition.
ReplyDeleteAussie basketball officials apologized for their team's share in the in the incident, they owned their part in the mistakes. How about Gilas? Nagyabang pa? Di nyo kame kaya boy ni pingris? Tambak kaya daanin na lang sa riot.
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