medyo mali parin si produ. verbal agreement pala matuloy or not wala siyang habol. mali din ang Viva aprroved pla bkit d sinunod or ngsabi ng maaga b4 the show n ayaw nila. Maattitude din ang JaDine or Nadz lng? fan parin yun sana pinagbiyan. hello kung d dhil sa fans waley k iha at wala din binili ng overrated perfume mo. char.
weather verbal lang kung may pakealam ka sa mga faney mo magppkita?bwat Segundo ba nila my bayad?kung sino pa yung totoong sikat marunong pahalaghn ang mga fans nila! attitude nla ang ikalalaos nila lols
Since this concert is in the US, verbal agreement is as valid as written agreement. May habol ang producer kung gusto nya. The point is kanino bang desisyon na wag siputin ang fan lunch? I don't think utos yun ng viva.
To those who are saying that just because the agreement is contracted only verbally, and not in writing, thus, the same is not binding and has no legal effect are dumb. you dont know anything about Philippine law. it is a commonplace learning that parties in a contract may stipulate their agreements either verbally or in writing and its effects are valid insofar as the parties in the said contract are concerned. however, under the Statute of Fraud, there are certain contracts that need to be in writings to be enforceable. Nonetheless, in this present case, it is clear that an agreement that the parties have entered into does not fall within the ambit of said rule. Therefore, since there is already a perfected contract, neither party may excuse or inhibit itself from complying with the stipulated agreement.
Even verbal agreement if the the 2 parties are agreed of whatever obligations. They have a contract to be executed. Ksi nga may consent na eh. Nag agree sila.
I don't get why she has to call out all the other fans club. She started posting in public yet she's the one complaining about stress and anxiety. As a previous event coordinator, verbal agreement is not really valid esp if between coordinators only.
Authorized or not, what is it ba to go down for 1 hour to spend time with the fans? Are they THAT big na 1 hour is such a big deal? Prince william and kate middeton levels na ba si jadine? The kennedys nga do not follow protocol sometimes. Princess diana too. Are jadine even their level to not have time to for this?
We had only 30min meryenda with them after their concert here in our city. Days of selling tickets in the streets to mere stangers, 30mins ang kapalit. It could have been an hour if only we reached the ticket quota. Define the struggle of fans. Is it really that hard to spend time with fans Jadine????? Di naman kayo lugi at yumayaman pa nga kayo lalo sa trabaho nyo.
Totoo.galawang swindler ito.kasi kung may malakas na ebidensya.korte ang takbuhan hindi yung social media na pagpipiyestahan ng insecure fans ng isang LT dahil patapos na ang flopserye.
wala talaga verbal agreement lang talo na sya. Sa America hindi pwdeng verbal lang, kahit gamitin nya yon text messages as proof, ang kaso hindi naman si Yang ang manager ng Jadine, so wala syang labang. Kung sya mismo ang nagsign ng contract with viva, may chance pa syang manalo.
I get that she's being bashed online by jadine fans pero hindi naman ata tama na icall out pa niya lahat ng lts fans club. I think Jadine and Viva were not really informed by this lunch date event. Maybe it was just between Nancy Yang and Elaine. We'll never know baka may hidden agenda din yung Nancy. And please wag siyang magreklamo about anxiety and all, if may matibay na proweba talaga siya dapat sinolve niya yan in a legal way or she could've reach out sa Viva management itself.
1251 other fandoms are quiete about this, Laban ng Jadine ito, huwag isama ang ibang fandom na tahimik, and please Jadine Lang Ang Holder ng FLOPSERYE AND EVERYTHING FLOP.
Anon 3:20 may pa "sa America, sa America" ka pang nalalaman! Sa America, the terms of the agreement stated in words, oral or written, are legal and binding.
Anon 8:24, lunch prepared by fans? Its prepared by Elaine to sell to the fans without authorization from Jadine mgmt, kaya nasabihan syang 'Pay Up' by Nadine, meaning i reimburse ang mga fans
Not true. Pag may umutang sayo say 10000 sabihin bababayaran sa sweldo, oral agreement yan. Kahit wala kang written contract madadaan sa korte yan kasi valid ang oral contract.
Valid ang oral contract if it has proof. Kaya i -dispute ng other party yan.
Also, tingin ko yung brunch na yan add-on/favor na lang yan after pirmahan ng contrata. Walang itemized sa contrata na may "brunch" sila. Kung valid ang verbal contract na yan magsasampa na yan ng kaso against viva.
So kesehodang magikot yung mga artista para mag shopping, wala silang nakalagay sa schedule na gagawin.
@5:08 basa basa po ng batas. Nasa batas ho yan. Obligations and contracts.research muna bago mag comment. .oral agreement is valid unless. The said contract is involve with real properties and the amount of the said obligations is more than 3000
Kung in black and white sana pwede silang magsampa ng kaso na hindi tumupad sa pinagkasunduan. Kaso yun nga, walang pirmahang naganap kaya malakas ang loob ng Viva na mag-issue ng statement ek-ek.
Sabi sa google oral contracts are enforceable. There is enough evidence that Ms. Yang knew about the luncheon. Nancy Yang may have misrepresented Elaine to Viva. Sad ako for the producer.
Pero may text message from Jadine Team na sumagot, pababa na daw sila, which proves na aware ang management sa brunch. May resibo pa. Verbal agreement is legal and valid. Read the law. Besides, this goes to show na sa pera lang ang Viva at Jadine. Wala silang pake sa fans na naghintay ng 5 hours.
Verbal agreement is a no no. But logically, if she sent the itinerary to the promoter, the promoter did have knowledge of the matter. The promoter even said on the text that they were already coming down. Something must have happened between the promoter and the Viva people, which led them to desert the luncheon.
Little favor? Elaine asked for $250 from the fans. Let's get real. She wasn't feeling bad about the fans kaya siya nagrarant, humahanash siya kasi she has to return the money.
1:56am eh paano yung perang tinanggap ng management ng Jadine? Tama lang naman na magalit yung Elaine kasi nabayaran yung Jadine kahit hindi buo may perang nabigay sa kanila.
The pay up is because hindi pa rin bayad si ellaine sa show. Hindi nagpapabayad ang jadine if may palunch ang fans. Ask around.alamin muna kasi bago kumuda
Kahit verbal agreement lang! Alam nila na naghihintay ang fans nila ng 5 horas sa kanila di pa rin nila sinipot! 🙄 So kung wala silang bayad di pwede meet and greet sa fans ganoon. Wala silang pake sa fans nila.
So this is not the producer's fault. It's the promoter and Viva because they are the ones that have the say. The promoter said that Viva approved, producer announced it on all her socmed for all to see and know. Don't tell me Viva didn't know? Also, that doesn't excuse that they all knew their fans were waiting for hours and not one came down to acknowledge or thank their fans. Jadine is also at fault because they didn't use their own judgement on what's the best thing to do. It's their integrity on the line and they decided to not care for their fans because it's not written on a contract.
There you go, verbally. Walang kontrata wala kang habol. Sana alam yan ni Elaine. Sisigawan lang sya ni Judge Judy palabas pag wala syang mailabas na written contract.
So kailangan pa pala ng pera at kontrata para harapin ang mga fans na naghintay ng 5 hours at galing pa sa malalayong lugar? Kahit 10mins lang na nag pakita sila eh ok na yon
Lol eh di mas lalong lagot ang viva. Tama si 2:18 there's such thing as oral contract. Lalo na may ebidensya si producer via text message. So anu na????
Talking like a genius but you don't even know the law. Excuse you, verbal agreements are considered legally binding! The only difference is that, a written agreement can bind the world, while verbal agreement binds the parties ONLY!
Tama ka @1:59! Bakit hindi sila bumaba? E Alam na nila yun! Dahil kasi wala silang pakialam sa mga fans nila. Pera Lang ang katapat! Kaya sabi daw "pay up"!
Bakit idadaan sa legalities gagastos pa sya lalo lugi na nga eh liit lang ng kinita. Tam a lang yan para alam ng lahat kung anong nangyari para sa susunod walang mga attitude problems na ipapakita mga artista.
Kung talagang sinungaling itong si producer bakit hindi sya dinedemanda or tinatakot man lang mademanda for defamation? Kasi nagsasabi ng totoo. Ang problema dito bakit kasi hindi sino pot ng jadine?
Ayan oh ang daming proof ng producer. Nasa handler ng Jadine ang pera so kung di nila alam bakit nila tinanggap ang bayad kahit partial pa? Evidence yan at yung "pay up" evidence din ibig sabihin alam ng jadine but hindi talaga sinipot kasi kulang bayad.
sino ba yan handler na sinasabi nyo, yon road manager ng jadine which handles the artists or the promoter which handles the entire production of the show? Kasi ang in charge sa finances/pera ay ang promoter and producer lang, ang handler ng jadine pocket money lang hawak non lol.
1:05 so the texts was baseless? How about the pay up? Don't generalize the matter. This was about the fans waiting for 5 hrs also and what's with the pababa na? How about Nadine saying pay up? Pera pera lang din no?
True with palabra de honor. Fans yun. Kaya nga sila ngpunta sa US to meet their fans. Nu yun pg walang bayad or appointment d sila pwede makita?! Aba mga ofw yan. Dolyar ang iniinvest ng mga yan para masuportahan sila.Mhiya naman sila kahit man lng simpleng Hi or Hello man lng. Yung iba nga kahit puyat pa at pagod pag may gustong magpapicture go lng. Oo may prerogative silang tumanggi pero yung appreciation man lng sana na nanggaling p s malalayong lugar para makita sila. KonsIderasyon man lng. Ano JADINE PERA PERA N LNG?!
Yup eto talaga ang problema. PAY UP sabi nga ni nadine. So kailangan may pera talagang ilabas ang mga fans pra makita man lang siya? 5-10mins na pagpakita lang sila eh ok na yun sa mga fans nila
I think Jadine and Viva were not really informed about the lunch date with fans. Maybe the convo was just between Nancy and Elaine. And there is also a money involved some people can be greedy at times. And ang mali ni Nadine dito ay nakikisawsaw pa siya. She could've just shut up and let the management handle it for them.
If indeed Jadine was not informed, then they cn just say so right? Easy, end of story, they're off the hook. Pero NOOO, no one is saying that. All they can say is that "it's not in the contract". So Jadine knows about the lunch and fans waiting. Someone who cares would at least apologize to these fans and tell them "wala po kasi kaming alam na andun kayo. we were not informed.".
9:12 you're right they know but cannot meet the fans because it's not on the contract. They're using a technicality to cover up their lack of regard for the fans. Watch them spin it some more and drag the producer in the next couple of days.
So wala sa contract and itenerary nila ang pa brunch ng fans nila so kahit same hotel and andun Lang din sila e Hindi sila dadalo or makipagkita man Lang dahil wala sa contract? Grabe! Walang compassion sa mga fans na nagbayad at nagtravel pa just to be with them.
10:21 bababa na nga daw ang Jadine sabi nung Bayona dba? So alam ng Jadine na may brunch for fans. Pero no show, for 5 hours. Oi tard gumising ka na. Inuuto ka na ng idols mo ganyan ka pa.
ngek sabi naman ni lomiboy WALA RAW SILANG ALAM sa tweets niya. sino nagsasabi ng totoo ngayon? tas may 3am flight pa raw. ha? this is brunch. yang tataa....?????
The fact that Nancy said bababa na is proof enough. The agreement is between her and Nancy. This producer did nothing wrong. The ones who didnt do their end of the bargain ang may problema.
But still there was an agreement made, que verbal man yan or nasa papel. Actually during the ancient times, an oath has so much bearing that even your life is at stake. This only shows how greedy viva and jadine are. Puro pera lang sila at walang malasakit sa fans.
I think 2:03 AM in this case madaling iprove kasi tinanggap nung Bayona na part ng Jadine management yung partial pay then the saved text messages pa from promoter who signed with Viva. I just don't think magkakademandahan kasi aaregluhin yan ng viva or masisira talent nila.
It doesn't matter if it's verbal. Court of law still counts that. Specially when money exchanged between parties is involved. Where are the evidence from Viva, Bayona and this Yang person? Kayo ang mag PAY UP! Shenanigans kuno!
The producer had a verbal agreement because she trusted the promoter and Viva to deliver, because she trusted them to be professionals considering she and her staff worked so hard to help put this event together , and they flaked on her last minute on the day of the event. Why doesn't she have the right to complain when that trust is so obviously broken? And now she's the fall guy?
Siguro lugi talaga yung producer kaya nagpa lunch sya para mabawi nalugi nya kaso di bumaba jadine. Kawawa din talaga mga producers sa mga ganito kse yung mga artists may tao o wala bayad naman sila. Tapos nag-iinarte pa Jadine, kung bumaba sila kahit 10 mins sana nakatulong na sila sa fans at sa producer na nalugi.
Sabi ng Viva Live, kakontrata nila si Ms Yang. Dapat si Ms Yang ang magsalita kung legit ba si Elaine o hindi. Asan na si Ms Yang? Ilabas nyo si Ms Yang!!! Kung hindi... PAY UP WT* SHENANIGANS!!!
Can some fans who were actually at said events pls comment your sides of the story? I'm sure I'm not the only one who wants to hear it. Pls reply to my comment, babalikan ko hoping may response na. Thanks!
Asus.. Edi sana nakipag lunch nlang ang jadine.anu b problema dun? Hnde ba pwede makipaglunch sa mga fans . May bayad man o wla.. May appointment man o wala. Tsk tsk
If wala naman kasing nasagasaan sa sched ng artists sana bumaba/pinababa na lang then settle this after.. nadamay pa ang fans sa issue ng promoter at producer.. But yes, it seems na pera lng for Viva they don't care about the fans..
Pay up was directed at elaine. Question though, pag jadine issue kesyo fans o hindi ang daming sawsaw talaga. May kanya kanya talagang interest in play.
If it's true na walang alam ang Jadine sa lunch date with fans, then why did Nadine bring it up on her twitter? She could've stayed quiet or simply said "apologies to the fans but James and I were really not aware of the event. thank you for the support we hope to make it up to you one day" . Eh may "pay up" pang nalalaman. Triggered much?
Di na dapat sumawsaw si Nadine sa issue na to ang hirap kaya mag backtrack from saying "pay up" to saying "oh we didn't know anything about this fan brunch"
What's sad is Jadine treated their fans as numbers, not as people who love them and came a long way to see them. No money? Only 15 people? Not in the contract? Did not sell their quota of tickets? No expensive gifts? Well too bad.
Huwag na kunin itong love team na ito for shows abroad. At sa mga fans nila -- do not expect anything from your idols. Ayaw nila kayo makasalamuha for breakfast, lunch or dinner.
Nakakatawa mga comment nyo na dapat hindi na pumatol pa si nadine! Eh binabash na sya mga ate! Mananahimik pa din?! Kayo nga na hindi involve ang daming mema, si nadine pa kaya?! Mas entitled sya pumatol! Nakakaloka ang mga hypocrite nyo lahat!!!
I think what Nadine meant when she said Pay Up is for Elaine to refund the money to the fans. Guys, mismo si Elaine, based on her latest statements, knew that Jadine never really had any idea about the brunch kasi nga she told Nadine to know everything first. May statement ba yung si Nancy? Di ba wala pa. Baka siya talaga ang may motibo. Her texting to Elaine doesn't guarantee na she's with the love team at the moment na "pababa na sila ng stairs" because if wala siyang hidden agenda, bakit kailangan pa niya magsinungaling di bah? Tsaka yung ibang nagcocomment dyan, bashers lang yan. Wag na patulan. This is just my opinion though.The thing is, dumiretso kasi sa social media. Social Media can both make and break anything. Yun lang. Haha!
medyo mali parin si produ. verbal agreement pala matuloy or not wala siyang habol. mali din ang Viva aprroved pla bkit d sinunod or ngsabi ng maaga b4 the show n ayaw nila. Maattitude din ang JaDine or Nadz lng? fan parin yun sana pinagbiyan. hello kung d dhil sa fans waley k iha at wala din binili ng overrated perfume mo. char.
ReplyDeleteweather verbal lang kung may pakealam ka sa mga faney mo magppkita?bwat Segundo ba nila my bayad?kung sino pa yung totoong sikat marunong pahalaghn ang mga fans nila! attitude nla ang ikalalaos nila lols
DeleteSabi will be prioritized LATER.. parang di naman lunch yung pinaguusapan
DeleteSince this concert is in the US, verbal agreement is as valid as written agreement. May habol ang producer kung gusto nya. The point is kanino bang desisyon na wag siputin ang fan lunch? I don't think utos yun ng viva.
DeleteVerbal agreement is a legit agreement still
Delete12:33 how's the weather?
DeleteTo those who are saying that just because the agreement is contracted only verbally, and not in writing, thus, the same is not binding and has no legal effect are dumb. you dont know anything about Philippine law. it is a commonplace learning that parties in a contract may stipulate their agreements either verbally or in writing and its effects are valid insofar as the parties in the said contract are concerned. however, under the Statute of Fraud, there are certain contracts that need to be in writings to be enforceable. Nonetheless, in this present case, it is clear that an agreement that the parties have entered into does not fall within the ambit of said rule. Therefore, since there is already a perfected contract, neither party may excuse or inhibit itself from complying with the stipulated agreement.
Delete1:42 papasa ka na sa bar dyan sa ano mo baks! Pakitagalog naman pls
Deletekuyang abogado, ano po ang ambit? cry me a river ang ilong ko...
DeleteVerbal agreement is a legal binding contract
DeleteYou dont need to be a lawyer to know what anon 1:42 said. Tinuturo yan sa basic/business law sa accountancy at commerce students.
DeleteOMG This issue is good enough to become a case study in Contracts law LOL
DeleteElaine is right! I hope Elaine will be vindicated!
DeleteEven verbal agreement if the the 2 parties are agreed of whatever obligations. They have a contract to be executed. Ksi nga may consent na eh. Nag agree sila.
DeleteHahaha. A contract must in writing if the obligations are concerned with real properties. Thus nevertheless. Services was jadine offered right?
DeleteI don't get why she has to call out all the other fans club. She started posting in public yet she's the one complaining about stress and anxiety. As a previous event coordinator, verbal agreement is not really valid esp if between coordinators only.
ReplyDelete12:22 verbal or written when its agreed by both parties is valid abd binding. Wag shunga!
DeleteSiempre kailangan niya dipensahan sarili niya, kinukuyog na sya ng mga JD fans sa social media. Isip isip din
DeleteIf it involves the reputation and integrity of your company/business tatahimik ka nalang ba? Tama si 1:54 wag shunga!
DeleteElaine, America has the best lawyers, please go find one and sue them to clear your name!
DeleteThe fact remains Jadine and Viva did not care for the fans that waited 5 hrs. Period. And Nadine's Pay Up? That sealed her true colors!
ReplyDeleteShe meant return the money of the fans who paid for the bruch that only nancy yang and elaine crisostomo know. Naglokohan yang dalawang producer
Delete1:54 di ka ba nagbabasa? Nasa handler na ng Jadine yung mga cheke diba nga? Sinoli ba nila? Sinong manloloko ngayon? Nabayaran pero di sumipot.
Delete1:54 hindi kasi fully paid, nag promissory note lang. Yun yun.
DeleteSo kung Hindi fully paid e hindi man Lang ang Jadine pupunta sa fans nila?
DeleteYou got it right 12:20
DeleteAuthorized or not, what is it ba to go down for 1 hour to spend time with the fans? Are they THAT big na 1 hour is such a big deal? Prince william and kate middeton levels na ba si jadine? The kennedys nga do not follow protocol sometimes. Princess diana too. Are jadine even their level to not have time to for this?
ReplyDeleteKung hindi pala authorize bakit tinanggap nila yung bayad?
DeleteWe had only 30min meryenda with them after their concert here in our city. Days of selling tickets in the streets to mere stangers, 30mins ang kapalit. It could have been an hour if only we reached the ticket quota. Define the struggle of fans. Is it really that hard to spend time with fans Jadine????? Di naman kayo lugi at yumayaman pa nga kayo lalo sa trabaho nyo.
DeleteI'm so sorry to hear that :( so Totoo talaga ang chismis about them.
DeleteNagpapauto kase kayo. Buti na lang natauhan ka.
DeleteHindi authorize na ano? Na-I invite sila ng fans nila na kumain kasabay nila? Wow! Iba na ang level nila
Delete@2:30, sana natauhan na kayo!
DeleteIf bumaba sila e di naging accomplice p sila sa panloloko ng fans.naningil un ellaine ng usd250 under the table.
DeleteI knew it!
ReplyDeleteSocial media ang takbuhan kapag walang matibay na panghahawakan at kakayahan para idaan sa legal na pamamaraan. Tsk.
Totoo.galawang swindler ito.kasi kung may malakas na ebidensya.korte ang takbuhan hindi yung social media na pagpipiyestahan ng insecure fans ng isang LT dahil patapos na ang flopserye.
Deletewala talaga verbal agreement lang talo na sya. Sa America hindi pwdeng verbal lang, kahit gamitin nya yon text messages as proof, ang kaso hindi naman si Yang ang manager ng Jadine, so wala syang labang. Kung sya mismo ang nagsign ng contract with viva, may chance pa syang manalo.
DeleteI get that she's being bashed online by jadine fans pero hindi naman ata tama na icall out pa niya lahat ng lts fans club. I think Jadine and Viva were not really informed by this lunch date event. Maybe it was just between Nancy Yang and Elaine. We'll never know baka may hidden agenda din yung Nancy. And please wag siyang magreklamo about anxiety and all, if may matibay na proweba talaga siya dapat sinolve niya yan in a legal way or she could've reach out sa Viva management itself.
DeleteSige bulag bulagan pa kayo tards
Delete1251 other fandoms are quiete about this, Laban ng Jadine ito, huwag isama ang ibang fandom na tahimik, and please Jadine Lang Ang Holder ng FLOPSERYE AND EVERYTHING FLOP.
DeleteIsa Lang yung point: Hindi sila bumaba para sa lunch na prepared for them by the fans. And they know it!
DeleteAnon 3:20 may pa "sa America, sa America" ka pang nalalaman! Sa America, the terms of the agreement stated in words, oral or written, are legal and binding.
DeleteAnon 8:24, lunch prepared by fans? Its prepared by Elaine to sell to the fans without authorization from Jadine mgmt, kaya nasabihan syang 'Pay Up' by Nadine, meaning i reimburse ang mga fans
DeleteVerbal pala eh. Wag kang maniniwala pag verbal lang. Dapat may pirmahan maganap. Kahit naghintay pa kayo ng 24hrs. Wala kayong magagawa.
ReplyDeleteNot true. Pag may umutang sayo say 10000 sabihin bababayaran sa sweldo, oral agreement yan. Kahit wala kang written contract madadaan sa korte yan kasi valid ang oral contract.
DeleteKelan naging valid ang oral agreement??? It can be denied anytime. Asa ka pa, basher ka lang.
DeleteVerbal agreement is binding as long as there is Consent, Object and Cause between the parties. Mere Consent may also perfect a contract.
Delete12:32 Verbal agreement is a binding contract.
DeleteValid ang oral contract if it has proof. Kaya i -dispute ng other party yan.
DeleteAlso, tingin ko yung brunch na yan add-on/favor na lang yan after pirmahan ng contrata. Walang itemized sa contrata na may "brunch" sila. Kung valid ang verbal contract na yan magsasampa na yan ng kaso against viva.
So kesehodang magikot yung mga artista para mag shopping, wala silang nakalagay sa schedule na gagawin.
Naku, Elaine, magsampa ka na kasi ng kaso, e tutal Ikaw naman ang producer and Ikaw ang naagrabyado!
Delete@5:08 basa basa po ng batas. Nasa batas ho yan. Obligations and contracts.research muna bago mag comment. .oral agreement is valid unless. The said contract is involve with real properties and the amount of the said obligations is more than 3000
DeleteAhhh kaya pala, Verbal Agreement lang.
ReplyDeleteKung in black and white sana pwede silang magsampa ng kaso na hindi tumupad sa pinagkasunduan. Kaso yun nga, walang pirmahang naganap kaya malakas ang loob ng Viva na mag-issue ng statement ek-ek.
DeleteSabi sa google oral contracts are enforceable. There is enough evidence that Ms. Yang knew about the luncheon. Nancy Yang may have misrepresented Elaine to Viva. Sad ako for the producer.
DeletePero may text message from Jadine Team na sumagot, pababa na daw sila, which proves na aware ang management sa brunch. May resibo pa. Verbal agreement is legal and valid. Read the law. Besides, this goes to show na sa pera lang ang Viva at Jadine. Wala silang pake sa fans na naghintay ng 5 hours.
DeleteAnd the "shenanigans" continues...
ReplyDeleteVerbal agreement is a no no. But logically, if she sent the itinerary to the promoter, the promoter did have knowledge of the matter. The promoter even said on the text that they were already coming down. Something must have happened between the promoter and the Viva people, which led them to desert the luncheon.
ReplyDeleteAng tanong sa mga local starlets sa Pinas:
ReplyDeleteMahirap ba to give time sa fans abroad kahit at least 30 minutes?!!! Fans spent money for their shows, merchandise, movies, tv guestings, etc.
Mahirap ba to return a LITTLE FAVOR na THANK YOU sa mga fans?!!!
Little favor? Elaine asked for $250 from the fans. Let's get real. She wasn't feeling bad about the fans kaya siya nagrarant, humahanash siya kasi she has to return the money.
DeletePaano isosoli ni Elaine yung pera. Andun na bayad kay BAYONA na kasama ng Jadine sa kwarto!
Delete1:56am eh paano yung perang tinanggap ng management ng Jadine? Tama lang naman na magalit yung Elaine kasi nabayaran yung Jadine kahit hindi buo may perang nabigay sa kanila.
Deleteay may bayad pala na 250$? may alam ba ang jadine or viva sa 250$ na bayaran? hindi ko nasubaybayan ang kwento eh.
Delete2:19AM pay up nga sabi ni Nadine eh di alam mo na sagot sa tanong mo
Deletewalang alam ang viva nor jadine na nagpapabayad yon entablado ng $250 sa lunch meet.
Deleteeven 5 minutes na mag hi or hello is sometimes enough sa mga mababaw kaligayahan.. pati yun di maibigay ng jadine?
DeleteIf Jadine is really nice, they should have went down and greeted their fans!
DeleteThe pay up is because hindi pa rin bayad si ellaine sa show. Hindi nagpapabayad ang jadine if may palunch ang fans. Ask around.alamin muna kasi bago kumuda
DeleteKahit verbal agreement lang! Alam nila na naghihintay ang fans nila ng 5 horas sa kanila di pa rin nila sinipot! 🙄 So kung wala silang bayad di pwede meet and greet sa fans ganoon. Wala silang pake sa fans nila.
ReplyDeleteAng kaso mo bayad na nga sila partially pero no show pa rin.
DeleteSo this is not the producer's fault. It's the promoter and Viva because they are the ones that have the say. The promoter said that Viva approved, producer announced it on all her socmed for all to see and know. Don't tell me Viva didn't know? Also, that doesn't excuse that they all knew their fans were waiting for hours and not one came down to acknowledge or thank their fans. Jadine is also at fault because they didn't use their own judgement on what's the best thing to do. It's their integrity on the line and they decided to not care for their fans because it's not written on a contract.
ReplyDeleteThere you go, verbally. Walang kontrata wala kang habol. Sana alam yan ni Elaine. Sisigawan lang sya ni Judge Judy palabas pag wala syang mailabas na written contract.
ReplyDeleteSo kailangan pa pala ng pera at kontrata para harapin ang mga fans na naghintay ng 5 hours at galing pa sa malalayong lugar? Kahit 10mins lang na nag pakita sila eh ok na yon
DeleteTalaga? I think Judge Judy actually knows the law. Unlike you. Google mo oral contract at ng mapahiya ka.
Deletenever mind Elaine.. pakitang tao man lang sa mga fans nila na nag hintay just to even say hi or hello.. ayun nadagdagan na tuloy mga ex fans nila
DeleteLol eh di mas lalong lagot ang viva. Tama si 2:18 there's such thing as oral contract. Lalo na may ebidensya si producer via text message. So anu na????
DeleteTalking like a genius but you don't even know the law. Excuse you, verbal agreements are considered legally binding! The only difference is that, a written agreement can bind the world, while verbal agreement binds the parties ONLY!
DeleteTama ka @1:59! Bakit hindi sila bumaba? E Alam na nila yun! Dahil kasi wala silang pakialam sa mga fans nila. Pera Lang ang katapat! Kaya sabi daw "pay up"!
DeleteSo this was the main problem and Nadine said, Pay up?! That even made her look worse. Seriously. 😂
ReplyDeleteMost of the commenters here were not even there when it happened. Maka bash at pang gulo lang kayo. Layas...
DeleteTrue. Wala daw written contract but Nadine said Pay Up. Lol. That describes her enough.
DeleteKung tingin mo ateng nasa tama ka, eh di idaan mo sa legalities. Kung wala ka naman sapat na ebidensya, sige sa FB ka nalang mag hanash
ReplyDeleteBakit idadaan sa legalities gagastos pa sya lalo lugi na nga eh liit lang ng kinita. Tam a lang yan para alam ng lahat kung anong nangyari para sa susunod walang mga attitude problems na ipapakita mga artista.
DeleteVerbal nga lang daw kaya sa socmed na nga lang talaga
DeleteKung talagang sinungaling itong si producer bakit hindi sya dinedemanda or tinatakot man lang mademanda for defamation? Kasi nagsasabi ng totoo. Ang problema dito bakit kasi hindi sino pot ng jadine?
DeleteVerbally approved daw.. So walang proof. Madaling sabihin na verbal agreement. Madaling gumawa ng kwento.
ReplyDeleteThe handlers acknowledged it kasi diba they said bababa na ang Jadine??
DeleteAno pang proof gusto mo. May screencapture na nga ng text acknowledging na priority ang lunch kuno.
DeleteIt's a classic case of "your word against mine". Bahala na ang tao kung kanino sila maniniwala
DeleteAyan oh ang daming proof ng producer. Nasa handler ng Jadine ang pera so kung di nila alam bakit nila tinanggap ang bayad kahit partial pa? Evidence yan at yung "pay up" evidence din ibig sabihin alam ng jadine but hindi talaga sinipot kasi kulang bayad.
Deletesino ba yan handler na sinasabi nyo, yon road manager ng jadine which handles the artists or the promoter which handles the entire production of the show? Kasi ang in charge sa finances/pera ay ang promoter and producer lang, ang handler ng jadine pocket money lang hawak non lol.
DeleteSo why doe Nadine have to tweet PAY UP? Not necessary.
ReplyDeleteAteng, gusto kasi mag practice ng ingles sa twitter, yun lang yun!
DeleteGusto rin makisawsaw e sa Hindi nga sila bumaba e
DeleteMas importante sa tao ang may palabra de honor or word of honor. Kung ano ang pinagkasunduan yun ay dapat tuparin.
ReplyDeleteYang mga ganyang paniniwala na likas sa mga Pinoy ang mas lalong nagpapahamak sa kanila. Kaya ang daming nauuto.
Delete1:05 so the texts was baseless? How about the pay up? Don't generalize the matter. This was about the fans waiting for 5 hrs also and what's with the pababa na? How about Nadine saying pay up? Pera pera lang din no?
DeleteTrue with palabra de honor. Fans yun. Kaya nga sila ngpunta sa US to meet their fans. Nu yun pg walang bayad or appointment d sila pwede makita?! Aba mga ofw yan. Dolyar ang iniinvest ng mga yan para masuportahan sila.Mhiya naman sila kahit man lng simpleng Hi or Hello man lng. Yung iba nga kahit puyat pa at pagod pag may gustong magpapicture go lng. Oo may prerogative silang tumanggi pero yung appreciation man lng sana na nanggaling p s malalayong lugar para makita sila. KonsIderasyon man lng. Ano JADINE PERA PERA N LNG?!
DeleteGalit sila kay Elaine dahil nilabas niya yung totoong nangyayari!
DeleteKung bumaba lang yung dalawa eh di tapos ang gulo.kaso mga suplada at suplado e
ReplyDeleteExactly! Eto talaga kase yung problema bakit ayaw bumaba?
DeleteMaybe because that was the order from their superiors
DeleteYup eto talaga ang problema. PAY UP sabi nga ni nadine. So kailangan may pera talagang ilabas ang mga fans pra makita man lang siya? 5-10mins na pagpakita lang sila eh ok na yun sa mga fans nila
DeleteI think Jadine and Viva were not really informed about the lunch date with fans. Maybe the convo was just between Nancy and Elaine. And there is also a money involved some people can be greedy at times. And ang mali ni Nadine dito ay nakikisawsaw pa siya. She could've just shut up and let the management handle it for them.
Delete1:40 so Jadines dont have the moral obligations to show gratitude in their own?
DeleteMga rude behavior kasi
DeleteIf indeed Jadine was not informed, then they cn just say so right? Easy, end of story, they're off the hook. Pero NOOO, no one is saying that. All they can say is that "it's not in the contract". So Jadine knows about the lunch and fans waiting. Someone who cares would at least apologize to these fans and tell them "wala po kasi kaming alam na andun kayo. we were not informed.".
Delete9:12 you're right they know but cannot meet the fans because it's not on the contract. They're using a technicality to cover up their lack of regard for the fans. Watch them spin it some more and drag the producer in the next couple of days.
DeleteSo wala sa contract and itenerary nila ang pa brunch ng fans nila so kahit same hotel and andun Lang din sila e Hindi sila dadalo or makipagkita man Lang dahil wala sa contract? Grabe! Walang compassion sa mga fans na nagbayad at nagtravel pa just to be with them.
Delete10:21 bababa na nga daw ang Jadine sabi nung Bayona dba? So alam ng Jadine na may brunch for fans. Pero no show, for 5 hours. Oi tard gumising ka na. Inuuto ka na ng idols mo ganyan ka pa.
Deletengek sabi naman ni lomiboy WALA RAW SILANG ALAM sa tweets niya. sino nagsasabi ng totoo ngayon? tas may 3am flight pa raw. ha? this is brunch.
Deleteyang tataa....?????
10:21 dilang anghel ka sumugod na rin si james sa giyera at pinupulaan pa ang pobreng Elaine.
DeleteThe fact that Nancy said bababa na is proof enough. The agreement is between her and Nancy. This producer did nothing wrong. The ones who didnt do their end of the bargain ang may problema.
ReplyDeleteBut then again Nancy is not part of Viva
DeleteNancy is not part of Viva pero kasama siya sa approval process nila kumbaga
Delete4:12 pero bayad na partially ang taga Viva dba? Yung handler ng Jadine
DeleteKahit verbal pa yan if there's money involved and the promoters agreed to it, it's binding.
ReplyDeleteBut still there was an agreement made, que verbal man yan or nasa papel. Actually during the ancient times, an oath has so much bearing that even your life is at stake. This only shows how greedy viva and jadine are. Puro pera lang sila at walang malasakit sa fans.
ReplyDeleteAn agreement, whether verbal or written, is binding.
ReplyDeleteTomo kaya yong mga feeling lawyer dyan mema lang. Binding T valid pa rin kahit verbal yon nga lang mas mahirap iprove.
DeleteI think 2:03 AM in this case madaling iprove kasi tinanggap nung Bayona na part ng Jadine management yung partial pay then the saved text messages pa from promoter who signed with Viva. I just don't think magkakademandahan kasi aaregluhin yan ng viva or masisira talent nila.
DeleteIt doesn't matter if it's verbal. Court of law still counts that. Specially when money exchanged between parties is involved. Where are the evidence from Viva, Bayona and this Yang person? Kayo ang mag PAY UP! Shenanigans kuno!
DeleteYung PAY UP talaga ni Nadine sealed it all. FYI to the fans. No pay, no hey.
ReplyDeleteJust like her perfume. Kelangan pre-order. Bayad muna kasi sigurista.
DeleteBwahahahaha oo nga natumbok mo teh! #PERAPERAKAYNADINE
DeleteYes, no pay, no say hi! Lol
DeleteThe producer had a verbal agreement because she trusted the promoter and Viva to deliver, because she trusted them to be professionals considering she and her staff worked so hard to help put this event together , and they flaked on her last minute on the day of the event. Why doesn't she have the right to complain when that trust is so obviously broken? And now she's the fall guy?
ReplyDeleteSiguro lugi talaga yung producer kaya nagpa lunch sya para mabawi nalugi nya kaso di bumaba jadine. Kawawa din talaga mga producers sa mga ganito kse yung mga artists may tao o wala bayad naman sila. Tapos nag-iinarte pa Jadine, kung bumaba sila kahit 10 mins sana nakatulong na sila sa fans at sa producer na nalugi.
ReplyDeleteI feel bad for Elaine. Nalugi na nga. Mind you SFO was the only sold out concert. Papano iba na nowhere near sold out? For sure they lost money too.
DeleteTrue! Kaya nga last year may Florida pa sila ang D.C., ngayon wala na. Hindi kumita e
DeleteSabi ng Viva Live, kakontrata nila si Ms Yang. Dapat si Ms Yang ang magsalita kung legit ba si Elaine o hindi. Asan na si Ms Yang? Ilabas nyo si Ms Yang!!! Kung hindi... PAY UP WT* SHENANIGANS!!!
ReplyDeleteMiss Yang said sa text messages nga bababa na. Sya yung ka text ni Elaine.
DeleteSusme! Lunch setup lang pinagaawayan! Cheapangga!
ReplyDeleteCan some fans who were actually at said events pls comment your sides of the story? I'm sure I'm not the only one who wants to hear it. Pls reply to my comment, babalikan ko hoping may response na. Thanks!
ReplyDeleteWala ako masyadong opinion kay Nadine, I don't like nor hate her, but parang hindi naman sila kasama dapat sa usapan.
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately, may bad attitude nga and her tweeting on something she didn't have full knowledge of made it worse.
DeleteAsus.. Edi sana nakipag lunch nlang ang jadine.anu b problema dun? Hnde ba pwede makipaglunch sa mga fans . May bayad man o wla.. May appointment man o wala. Tsk tsk
ReplyDeleteKelangan kasi teh, may bayad e. Hindi sila pupunta sa fans nila pag libre.
Deleteansakit sa mata basahin ang claim ni elaine. wala ba syang someone to help her edit her tenses?!?
ReplyDeleteIf wala naman kasing nasagasaan sa sched ng artists sana bumaba/pinababa na lang then settle this after.. nadamay pa ang fans sa issue ng promoter at producer.. But yes, it seems na pera lng for Viva they don't care about the fans..
ReplyDeletePay up was directed at elaine. Question though, pag jadine issue kesyo fans o hindi ang daming sawsaw talaga. May kanya kanya talagang interest in play.
ReplyDeleteWhy does Elaine need to pay when she didn't get the brunch money?
DeleteYes, binigay niya na ang pera Kay bayona and Nancy. Kaya sa text niya e humihingi daw ng refund ang fans kasi no show ang jadine.
Deletehow sad that there has to be "Pay up" and a written contract to spend time with fans. This is disheartening.
ReplyDeleteIf it's true na walang alam ang Jadine sa lunch date with fans, then why did Nadine bring it up on her twitter? She could've stayed quiet or simply said "apologies to the fans but James and I were really not aware of the event. thank you for the support we hope to make it up to you one day" . Eh may "pay up" pang nalalaman. Triggered much?
ReplyDeleteDi na dapat sumawsaw si Nadine sa issue na to ang hirap kaya mag backtrack from saying "pay up" to saying "oh we didn't know anything about this fan brunch"
ReplyDeleteWhat's sad is Jadine treated their fans as numbers, not as people who love them and came a long way to see them. No money? Only 15 people? Not in the contract? Did not sell their quota of tickets? No expensive gifts? Well too bad.
ReplyDeleteHuwag na kunin itong love team na ito for shows abroad. At sa mga fans nila -- do not expect anything from your idols. Ayaw nila kayo makasalamuha for breakfast, lunch or dinner.
ReplyDeleteNakakatawa mga comment nyo na dapat hindi na pumatol pa si nadine! Eh binabash na sya mga ate! Mananahimik pa din?! Kayo nga na hindi involve ang daming mema, si nadine pa kaya?! Mas entitled sya pumatol! Nakakaloka ang mga hypocrite nyo lahat!!!
ReplyDeleteI think what Nadine meant when she said Pay Up is for Elaine to refund the money to the fans. Guys, mismo si Elaine, based on her latest statements, knew that Jadine never really had any idea about the brunch kasi nga she told Nadine to know everything first. May statement ba yung si Nancy? Di ba wala pa. Baka siya talaga ang may motibo. Her texting to Elaine doesn't guarantee na she's with the love team at the moment na "pababa na sila ng stairs" because if wala siyang hidden agenda, bakit kailangan pa niya magsinungaling di bah? Tsaka yung ibang nagcocomment dyan, bashers lang yan. Wag na patulan. This is just my opinion though.The thing is, dumiretso kasi sa social media. Social Media can both make and break anything. Yun lang. Haha!
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