Huy, in fairness naman, there was a time na legit yung mga box-office nila. Like nung feng shui, sukob, at one more chance. Nagsimula na lang magka issue sa padding nung nagsawa na din mga tao sa mga formula nila
in fairness naman sa SC, maganda ang resolution ng movies nila comparing to other movie prod companies. actors are good too. pero ang story, mediocre at best.
Some make movies to earn money Some make movies for art.
Some watch movies to relieve stress Some watch movies for art.
Respect people who are stressed out and want to watch feel good movie or nonsense movies. Respect intelligent people who want to watch sensible movies.
Respect opinionated individual pero mang philbert tama na po nagmumukha ka ng bitter.
Tatagal ba ang Star Cinema ng 22 years kung padding sila ng padding? At sila lang ang nakakagawa ngayon ng at least 4 non-MMFF local movies. Talk about their track record of 20 out of 25 top grossing local films of all times.
Against KN fans dahil may nag tweet ata sa kanya ang box office gross na feeling ng KN nilait ni Philbert. Bihira naman siya mag review ng maganda sa mainstream dahil feeling niya masayadong madrama ang mainstream. Sa indie may drama pero siguro feeling niya masyadong pilit ang mga drama angles sa mga mainstream films. Creativity ang hinahanap niya, siguro story telling na kakaiba kaysa mga flashbacks at mga sigawan para lang malaman ang mga lihim o storya na sobrang cliche na.
Di mo naintindihan yung ingles baks? Wala daw siyang pake sa padding, he's here for art daw to review. May nagsasabi daw sa kanyang may padding lagi pero wa daw siyang pake. Gets na?
Eh rumors lang naman kasi talaga yang pagkalalaking kinita kuno na inilalabas nila, even Alfie Lorenzo na manager ni Judy Ann na talent ng dos eh sinabi na yan noon pa.
Ang tanong, bakit nga mas nadagdagan pa ang mga sinehan na nagbukas para sa movie na yan kung padding lang talaga ang ganap? Susugal ang sinehan ng ganun kung di dinudumog? Hahahahaha
eh bakit ang Bitter mo Manggalina? affected much? eh sa umpisa pa lamang eh 240 cinemas n yan. todo padding pa ng kampo mo pra lng masabi na malaki talga kinita.
Walang naganap na padding, Sir. I know he's talking about BALU.. But the movie has an art in it if only you allow yourself to see it. Guys, I know there are lots of negative comments about the movie. Please let us stop the hate and the bashing. This movie is a great one. Give it a try sa mga di pa nakapanood. Thank you.
Kaya pakisabi sa kapwa ninyong fans maging masaya na lang, wala nang kailngan ipagyabang o patunayan sa iba. Maliban na lang kung pakiramdam ninyo na kailangan nga.
Anon 3:09am obviously si ateng nagpprovoke ay hindi kn fan at fan ng counter part nila. Kasi bakit niya sasabihin at iniinsist ang padding issue na binabato sa barcelona
giant corp naman talaga ay money money money kahit saang industry. Sa panahon ngayon koya sa indie film ka lang makakakita ng "ART" at "MONEY" sa big corp, movie reviewer ka dapat alam mo na yan. Bakit ngayon lang siya kumukuda?
kahit anong ngawa niya, wala na siyang magagawa!hahaha, nakakatawa na panay ang pambabatikos niya, kung sa kanya panget, so be it, pero kung araw arawin niya pagdada niya aba matinde, laki ng galit niya sa kathniel ha,
I dunno ha pero bad publicity is still publicity. Dati hindi dapat ako manonood pero dahil sa movie review ni ateng philbert nacurious ako pinanood ko tuloy.haha! So so lang pero feeling ko hindi ako lugi ganda sceneries sa spain. Hehe!
I don't think he's looking down on your preferred movie 9:52. He has reviewed other mainstream movies and given them fair ratings too. So hindi siya ang problema.
Baka ni review niya Barcelona. Hindi siya nagandahan. Na bash siguro ng mga war freak fans ng Kathniel. Pinag malaki ang padded gross, wa pake daw siya.
ay naku anon 3:03am, buti nalang anonymous ka kasi kung hindi? naku! babatikosin karin ng KN fans na hindi matanggap na merong hindi nagagandahan sa movie LOL
Bakit kasi kelangang lagi na lang mag-padding ang SC sa gross ng films nila?. Nahihirapan ba silang ibunyag ang totoong kinikita nila?. Mula ng si CSC humawak ng Dos, pulos na lang walang truth kadalasang binabalita nila. Magpakatotoo na kau under Pres Duterte's Administration.
Tama lahat naman ng blockbuster kuno ngaun na movie nadadala ng padding lang saka mga tards. Quality films pa rin. Nood kau cinemalaya mga mangmang at mapanghusgang mamamayan ng social media
i used to check the box office mojo website for gross earnings ng movies coz that's more credible than information released by film companies. But for some reason they just stopped updating that website. Bakit kaya?
Yeah. In fairness naman until 2014, puro star cinema ang nasa highest gross list. Last year lang 2015 nagsimula magka padding issue dahil nauuuso na din ang mga indie films
of course there is padding. It shows at the cinemas. There are no lines at the movie theaters. This is all business strategy. And ABS-CBN is good at that. I have no problem with it. For all businesses care is to make money.
actually, train to busan talaga yung nakita kong pinipilahan sa mga malls na nadadaanan ko. yun din ang pinag-uusapan ng marami, even yung mga memes sa fb will be proof for the success of the movie.
kahit naman sa ibang bansa mas kumikita at malaki budget ng mga mainstream. Mas madami kasi gusto ma entairtain kesa sumakit ang ulo sa art film lol jusko naturingan critics pero mainstream ang binabatikos.
There is such a thing as deductible expenses. Also, SC for sure have bigwig accountants to make sure SC has tax savings. Lastly, if SC doesn't declare the true box office results, what makes you think it declares the true box office results in its FS and BIR returns?
You pay your taxes after declaring on a sheet of paper to the BIR, not on public announcement. Besides, gross ticket sales lang ang inannounce, di pa awas dyan ang bayad sa cinemas and other expenses. May huge debts pa sila sa bank. Imagine how much they declare on their book of accounts.
It's probably press release vs. actual amount. Press release of high gross to convince people to watch. Makes people think they are left out if they don't watch. But actual document says otherwise for tax purposes.
Please remember that the movies' gross is not yet audited by independent accountants thus the movie company can always declare whatever amount there whereas the income submitted to BIR has gone through an audit already, subjected to corrections and adjustments, if any.
They will never disclose the gross of their movie para walang idea ang SC kung hanggang magkano ang ipapadding nila sa movie nila. Maraming resibo na pinilahan yong movie na tinutukoy mo. Until ngayon pinapalabas pa siya sa Canada. Wag ka ng maghamon dahil mapapahiya ka lang.
Di nila gayahin ang Viva at Regal na sobrang namayagpag nung 80's, pero ngayon mas marami pa yata silang movies na nag flop kesa box office, pero tanggap nila. Bat etong SC , parang hirap silang tanggapin, kesehodang pati sarili nila niloloko nila.
Philbert Dy is not a hater of KN. He is a film critic, have you read his review in How to be yours, it was a simple movie, simple plot,and yet he rated it 5 stars...
Whatever haters blockbuster parin ang barcelona jan kayo magaling sa kuda pero movie gross ng idol nyo musta??d nyo nga masabe eh inggit lang yan mga beshh.
Star Cinema cannot afford to lose in the box office results of its KN movie. By hook or by crook it has to win to make sure its homegrown LT is still on top. If it will let KN lose, its next LT is LQ, which cannot compete with the other leading LTs.
SC is known for padding!
ReplyDeleteMatagal na!!
Huy, in fairness naman, there was a time na legit yung mga box-office nila. Like nung feng shui, sukob, at one more chance. Nagsimula na lang magka issue sa padding nung nagsawa na din mga tao sa mga formula nila
DeleteDahil sa social media nae-expose ang padding ng Star Cinema. Hindi na madaling maloko ang mga tao ngayon.
Deleteingit lang tawag dyan , hindi nyo matangap na malaki ang kinita ng barcelona or mga movie ng kathniel and star cinema
Deletebitter lang kayo
Deletepurely hearsay! where's the proof?
Delete1:43 and 1:44 blame ABS for tweeting nbi queue. Don't us.
DeleteTotoo 12:55. Noon dahil bihira silang gumawa ng pelikula, aabangan mo dahil alam mong maganda ang kalidad. Noon yon.
Deletein fairness naman sa SC, maganda ang resolution ng movies nila comparing to other movie prod companies. actors are good too. pero ang story, mediocre at best.
Delete2:54 ikaw ang example na mabilis maniwala sa mga pekeng pictures. Hahahaha
Delete1:43 so inamin mo na pang box office lng ung Barcelona pero considering it as an art eh HINDI? Hahahahaha
DeleteAng bitter nitong philberto na to.
DeleteSome make movies to earn money
DeleteSome make movies for art.
Some watch movies to relieve stress
Some watch movies for art.
Respect people who are stressed out and want to watch feel good movie or nonsense movies.
Respect intelligent people who want to watch sensible movies.
Respect opinionated individual pero mang philbert tama na po nagmumukha ka ng bitter.
Tatagal ba ang Star Cinema ng 22 years kung padding sila ng padding? At sila lang ang nakakagawa ngayon ng at least 4 non-MMFF local movies. Talk about their track record of 20 out of 25 top grossing local films of all times.
DeleteWalang padding yan! Taxable yan! Ang basisng BIR ay ang publicized earnings ng movies sa twitter and not the actual sales figures.
Delete- SC fantard
Kahiya sa mga pila sa sinehan...na sobrang hahaba.lols
Deleteano ang ipinaglalaban niya?
ReplyDeletepadding daw hehe
DeletePanuorin daw dapat indie films
DeleteAgainst KN fans dahil may nag tweet ata sa kanya ang box office gross na feeling ng KN nilait ni Philbert. Bihira naman siya mag review ng maganda sa mainstream dahil feeling niya masayadong madrama ang mainstream. Sa indie may drama pero siguro feeling niya masyadong pilit ang mga drama angles sa mga mainstream films. Creativity ang hinahanap niya, siguro story telling na kakaiba kaysa mga flashbacks at mga sigawan para lang malaman ang mga lihim o storya na sobrang cliche na.
Deletenot necessarily indie.. may mainstream na maganda.. may indie na sabaw.. and vice versa.
DeletePadding for Kathryn's acting. Hahahahaha!
Deletesumo-showbiz, pina-paingay lang ang name niya. kumbaga, nagpapa-relevant lang.
DeleteDi mo naintindihan yung ingles baks? Wala daw siyang pake sa padding, he's here for art daw to review. May nagsasabi daw sa kanyang may padding lagi pero wa daw siyang pake. Gets na?
Deletenakaka-awa naman si anon 1:27. hanggang dun lang ang kaya ng kanyang comprehension. what a pathetique creature.
Delete2:52 almost all KN fans eh gaya ni 1:27 ang level of comprehension....kapiranggot.
DeleteWala tayong magagawa pinalabas kc sa ibang bansa. Malaki kinikita nila sa abroad.
DeleteGrabe un 127 kailangan padding din sa aral. Gumawa ka ng sarili mong homework wag ka mangopya kya kinakamote ka kahit sa fp lang eh
DeleteHayy kasalanan ba na mas panuorin ang mainstream kesa sa indie films. Gusto kasi magrelax ng pinoy sa dami ng problema
ReplyDeleteGusto rin naman namin magrelax at nastress lang talaga kami sa napakaraming iyakang walang depth sa Barcelona.
DeleteEh rumors lang naman kasi talaga yang pagkalalaking kinita kuno na inilalabas nila, even Alfie Lorenzo na manager ni Judy Ann na talent ng dos eh sinabi na yan noon pa.
ReplyDeleteAng tanong, bakit nga mas nadagdagan pa ang mga sinehan na nagbukas para sa movie na yan kung padding lang talaga ang ganap? Susugal ang sinehan ng ganun kung di dinudumog? Hahahahaha
Deleteeh bakit ang Bitter mo Manggalina? affected much? eh sa umpisa pa lamang eh 240 cinemas n yan. todo padding pa ng kampo mo pra lng masabi na malaki talga kinita.
DeleteWalang naganap na padding, Sir. I know he's talking about BALU.. But the movie has an art in it if only you allow yourself to see it. Guys, I know there are lots of negative comments about the movie. Please let us stop the hate and the bashing. This movie is a great one. Give it a try sa mga di pa nakapanood. Thank you.
ReplyDeleteUhm... no.
DeleteWe saw the movie. It's not art. But kanya kanyang opinion lang. Eto opinion ko: di maganda ang BALU, you'll cringe sa iyakan. Yan naman opinion mo.
DeleteHaha,yan ang tamang pr,keep it up!
DeleteAng inidoro may art din "if only you allow yourself to see it."
DeleteE si ate din naman kasi pala e nagpprovoke pa e
ReplyDeleteKaya pakisabi sa kapwa ninyong fans maging masaya na lang, wala nang kailngan ipagyabang o patunayan sa iba. Maliban na lang kung pakiramdam ninyo na kailangan nga.
DeleteAnon 3:09am obviously si ateng nagpprovoke ay hindi kn fan at fan ng counter part nila. Kasi bakit niya sasabihin at iniinsist ang padding issue na binabato sa barcelona
Deletegiant corp naman talaga ay money money money kahit saang industry. Sa panahon ngayon koya sa indie film ka lang makakakita ng "ART" at "MONEY" sa big corp, movie reviewer ka dapat alam mo na yan. Bakit ngayon lang siya kumukuda?
ReplyDeletekahit anong ngawa niya, wala na siyang magagawa!hahaha, nakakatawa na panay ang pambabatikos niya, kung sa kanya panget, so be it, pero kung araw arawin niya pagdada niya aba matinde, laki ng galit niya sa kathniel ha,
ReplyDeleteMalaki galit niya dun sa mga pangit na pelikula hindi lang yung sa inyo.
DeleteMars, mali ka ng basa, pls take a second look.
DeleteI dunno ha pero bad publicity is still publicity. Dati hindi dapat ako manonood pero dahil sa movie review ni ateng philbert nacurious ako pinanood ko tuloy.haha! So so lang pero feeling ko hindi ako lugi ganda sceneries sa spain. Hehe!
DeleteGanyan talaga mga alta altahan(siguro alta nga), madali mainis sa mga hanash. Naamoy ko ang amoy ng isang matapobre. No wonder galing ka sa Esq-Mag.
ReplyDeleteNakakatuwa kayo. Dahil ayaw niya sa movie ninyo altahan na kunyari? Di ba pwedeng mas may taste lang?
Deletekanya kanyang taste yan. if this guy is into indie films thats fine. pero no need to look down on others preference. halatang insecure deep inside
DeleteI don't think he's looking down on your preferred movie 9:52. He has reviewed other mainstream movies and given them fair ratings too. So hindi siya ang problema.
DeleteAng daming nanood ng Barcelona... Haters gonna hate.. good luck Phil Dy. Papansin pa more
ReplyDeleteNanonood, nasuka, nagsisi.
DeleteWinner ka 3:01!!!!!
DeleteBaka ni review niya Barcelona. Hindi siya nagandahan. Na bash siguro ng mga war freak fans ng Kathniel. Pinag malaki ang padded gross, wa pake daw siya.
ReplyDeletemay hidden agenda ba to????? insecure much lang??? nag apply siguro to sa SC pero di tinanggap!!! #kaloka!
ReplyDeleteLaking karangalan ba ng isang tao ang matanggap sa kompanya ninyo? Lol.
DeleteGiant corporation daw eh so malamang pinangarap nga nya na makasama sa giant corp.
DeleteObvious naman na may padding. Mahina talaga ang barcelona. In denial pa ang abs
ReplyDeleteTroth!!!!
DeleteTRAIN TO BUSAN ANG PINAG-UUSAPAN NO!
Deletehe does not f------ care about padding?
ReplyDeletethen a simple NO should suffice. methinks he protests too much.
Ripped off story is not an art and will never been an art.
ReplyDeleteI am not a fan of any loveteam and I watched this movie sinama ako ng pinsan kong die hard and ang masasabi ko lang sayang ang pera ko.
ReplyDeleteay naku anon 3:03am, buti nalang anonymous ka kasi kung hindi? naku! babatikosin karin ng KN fans na hindi matanggap na merong hindi nagagandahan sa movie LOL
DeleteBakit kasi kelangang lagi na lang mag-padding ang SC sa gross ng films nila?. Nahihirapan ba silang ibunyag ang totoong kinikita nila?. Mula ng si CSC humawak ng Dos, pulos na lang walang truth kadalasang binabalita nila. Magpakatotoo na kau under Pres Duterte's Administration.
ReplyDeletemind conditioning of course para masabi na KN still got it
DeleteWala na po sa puesto c CSC.
DeleteTagal na nila hobby yan. Yan ang ABS marketing.
DeleteTama lahat naman ng blockbuster kuno ngaun na movie nadadala ng padding lang saka mga tards. Quality films pa rin. Nood kau cinemalaya mga mangmang at mapanghusgang mamamayan ng social media
ReplyDelete2:12: Huh?
ReplyDeletei used to check the box office mojo website for gross earnings ng movies coz that's more credible than information released by film companies. But for some reason they just stopped updating that website. Bakit kaya?
ReplyDeleteYeah. In fairness naman until 2014, puro star cinema ang nasa highest gross list. Last year lang 2015 nagsimula magka padding issue dahil nauuuso na din ang mga indie films
DeleteAy may pinaghuhugutan si koya. I don't think it's just about Barcelona. Oh well...
ReplyDeleteof course there is padding. It shows at the cinemas. There are no lines at the movie theaters. This is all business strategy. And ABS-CBN is good at that. I have no problem with it. For all businesses care is to make money.
ReplyDeleteMas madami pang nanood hanggang ngayon ng train to busan
Deleteactually, train to busan talaga yung nakita kong pinipilahan sa mga malls na nadadaanan ko. yun din ang pinag-uusapan ng marami, even yung mga memes sa fb will be proof for the success of the movie.
Deleteeither magaling lang tlga mang-hype ang DOS or aanga anga lang at uto uto ang followers at tards ng DOS. lol
Deletekahit naman sa ibang bansa mas kumikita at malaki budget ng mga mainstream. Mas madami kasi gusto ma entairtain kesa sumakit ang ulo sa art film lol jusko naturingan critics pero mainstream ang binabatikos.
ReplyDeleteAnonymousSeptember 21, 2016 at 6:54 AM < harujusjo! sa ibang bansa kaya nilang pagsamahin ang art at commercial no! pwek!
DeleteArt at commercial pero ang tanong blockbuster ba?????? Kaya nga baks ilang sequel at prequel na ang star wars dahil mas kumikita.
DeleteI don't understand these allegations of so called "padding". Who on earth would resort to padding and end up paying MORE INCOME TAX ?
ReplyDeleteThere is such a thing as deductible expenses. Also, SC for sure have bigwig accountants to make sure SC has tax savings. Lastly, if SC doesn't declare the true box office results, what makes you think it declares the true box office results in its FS and BIR returns?
DeleteYou pay your taxes after declaring on a sheet of paper to the BIR, not on public announcement. Besides, gross ticket sales lang ang inannounce, di pa awas dyan ang bayad sa cinemas and other expenses. May huge debts pa sila sa bank. Imagine how much they declare on their book of accounts.
DeleteThe income they declared is for PR only not on their income statement which is official.
DeleteIt's probably press release vs. actual amount. Press release of high gross to convince people to watch. Makes people think they are left out if they don't watch. But actual document says otherwise for tax purposes.
DeleteTo show that they're on top and that their artists are the biggest stars. Small price to pay compared to what TV advertisers would pay them.
DeletePlease remember that the movies' gross is not yet audited by independent accountants thus the movie company can always declare whatever amount there whereas the income submitted to BIR has gone through an audit already, subjected to corrections and adjustments, if any.
Delete9:13 am to 2:49 kinawawa niyo naman mga KNs. Speak in layman's term. Di nila maintindihan.
DeleteNatawa ako sa'yo 7:32 hahaha! Oo nga naman, pakiexplain ng mabuti para maintindihan naman ng tards 😂
DeleteAmpalaya spotted 5:52 kaya pala movie ng idol mo untold parin ang gross.bwahahaha
ReplyDeleteNatural kac kapag nilabas nila, SUPER PADDING gagawin ng SC pra lng masabi na sila prin top grossing.
DeleteThey will never disclose the gross of their movie para walang idea ang SC kung hanggang magkano ang ipapadding nila sa movie nila. Maraming resibo na pinilahan yong movie na tinutukoy mo. Until ngayon pinapalabas pa siya sa Canada. Wag ka ng maghamon dahil mapapahiya ka lang.
Delete8:50 are producers required to disclose gross sales?
DeleteWorth it ang movie d sayang ang pera relate much sa buhay ofw..proud ofw.
ReplyDeleteOA na
ReplyDeleteDi nila gayahin ang Viva at Regal na sobrang namayagpag nung 80's, pero ngayon mas marami pa yata silang movies na nag flop kesa box office, pero tanggap nila. Bat etong SC , parang hirap silang tanggapin, kesehodang pati sarili nila niloloko nila.
ReplyDeleteKasi 10:14, abs is a publicly traded company.
DeleteSus mga inggeters kwento nyo yan sa untold na gross na movie ng idol nyo..hahahaha
ReplyDeleteConfidence is SILENT. Insecurities are LOUD.
DeleteKaya pala puro ang press release for BALU ay gross income lang. Makes sense. hihihi
Tama na ang isang sabi, pero kung araw arawin ay malala na yan! Nageennjoy ata siya at may pumapansin sa kanya!hahaha
ReplyDeletePhilbert Dy is not a hater of KN. He is a film critic, have you read his review in How to be yours, it was a simple movie, simple plot,and yet he rated it 5 stars...
ReplyDeletePag si Mother Lily tahimik, ibig sabihin, so so lang sa takilya ang movie...pansin ko yan.
ReplyDeletePampam c.kuya enjoy u lang 15min fame mo.lol
ReplyDeleteWhatever haters blockbuster parin ang barcelona jan kayo magaling sa kuda pero movie gross ng idol nyo musta??d nyo nga masabe eh inggit lang yan mga beshh.
ReplyDeleteStar Cinema cannot afford to lose in the box office results of its KN movie. By hook or by crook it has to win to make sure its homegrown LT is still on top. If it will let KN lose, its next LT is LQ, which cannot compete with the other leading LTs.
ReplyDeleteArt naman ang Barcelona movie ah.
ReplyDeleteyung poster parang Fan Art. Yung bida, maARTe at pabebe.
Inggit ka lang. At dahil jeje pagkasulat mo alam na kung anong fandom ka.
DeleteKapwa mo fan 9:09?
DeleteMasyadong paarte tong isang to. Kala mo naman kung sino
ReplyDelete