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SUPREMO By Tim Yap
It was exactly 10 years ago when I introduced Ian King to Joey Mead. Ian is a known sports car enthusiast and is the scion of the Victoria Court motel empire. Joey was at the peak of her modelling career, known for her quirky ways on the catwalk and mad hosting skills. Joey had just finished walking on the runway for a magazine party celebrating their latest covers. Ian, clad in an all-white three-piece suit with matching fedora, saw Joey, who was wearing an off-shoulder boho summer dress, and was immediately smitten. He asked me for an introduction. “Are you sure?” I asked.
Turns out Ian was so sure about his attraction for Joey, that a few years into their relationship, they got married in the US in 2011. They even had a simple ceremony at the village clubhouse where they lived then for friends and family to declare their love for each other, which I hosted. They looked like the perfect, happy couple. They looked hot, loved each other dearly, were at the top of their careers, and had a lot of pets (Joey had grown a fondness for rescuing stray cats and dogs) in their household.
Somewhere in between all of that, Ian had a secret, which he wanted to share with his loved ones. Ever since he was a kid, he had a penchant for wearing women’s clothes. It started off with shoes, then went on to lingerie and makeup. Joey had known about this early on in their relationship, but they decided to keep this side private, for fear of being criticized by a judgmental society.
Angelina Mead King or Angie Mead the transwoman was hidden from the public eye, only revealed in a private Instagram account @hailtothe_queen_. Ian King and Angie Mead are one and the same person. In Angie’s world, Ian could be whoever he wanted to be, free from the eyes of people who couldn’t understand.
But he couldn’t keep it anymore. “I broke down and told myself I can’t live like this.” Ian then told his father and his family about his other side. “My father had a hard time accepting it, but even though he had a hard time in the beginning, he was full support in the end. My stepmom was a supporter and my real mom was also a supporter.” Incidentally, yesterday, July 5, marked the first anniversary of Archie King’s passing.
Through it all, Ian and Joey fought for the love that they had for each other. “Tooth, nail, blood, sweat and tears,” as Joey put it. “I fought a lot. Fought myself…a lot, fought my husband, fought conventionality.” All in the name of unconditional love.
And then last weekend, Angie Mead was set free. Joey and Ian threw all caution to the wind and, armed with the love and respect they had for each other, not to mention the support of family and close friends, the account @hailtothe_queen_ was set to public. Everyone was abuzz.
The overwhelming outpour of support for the non-conventional wife-and-wife couple was something they didn’t expect. “I thought this was going to be a bad dream, but it isn’t.” People encouraged Angie to celebrate her true self and admired Joey for her strength and capacity to love unconditionally in a world where it is easier to just quit.
There are beautiful lessons to be learned here. And we can all learn from the characters here because there is an Ian, a Joey and an Angie in all of us that just needs to be set free.
I spent Sunday with the Kings (and queens) and sat down with Angelina Mead King for this exclusive interview.
TIM YAP: So what do I call you now — Ian or Angie?
IAN KING: I’m okay with anything. In a way, I prefer Angie. The thing with me is I don’t hate my past because I just had a secret, but I don’t hate my childhood, I love my friends. In a way, my closest friends have been friends with me for like 30 years, 29 years and the next is like 16 years, so really, a solid group of friends. And they have known about Angie since 2009.
You have kept the Instagram account @hailtothe_queen_ private for quite some time. What made you open the account to the public?
I was with my stepmom in the other house and we were just talking, “You know people are talking…” I told her and some of my friends have sent me screen shots of other people’s chat groups. And it was like, “Hey, have you heard?” Like it was circulating already, so we were like, “It’s out already, why are we stopping it?” And everyone was just worried for Joey. So, that day after talking to my mom, I came here to the house and I asked Joey, “Ano, rock and roll na?”
And what did Joey say?
After all the rough situations that we’ve been through, we are at the stage now of …f*ck it, let’s do it. Go forward, be different and just enjoy life.
So, when was the Instagram account @hailtothe_queen_ with Angelina Mead King set up?
2012 I think. And everyone was like, “Hey, someone hacked your account!” I told them, “No guys, it’s true. I am Angie.”
When was Angie born within you? When did you realize you liked to wear women’s clothes?
There was always that interest ever since I was a kid. Like I would sneak into the maids’ room — sadly —and I’d borrow stuff. And then weirdly enough, my dad didn’t always have a partner in the house because my mom and dad were separated. So there were not much women’s clothes at home so the maid’s was like the first and then as it progressed, wherever I could borrow.
So, that was your secret life.
Such a rough spot and a mind f*ck, like what am I doing?!
How old were you then?
Seven or eight, like you’ve walked in your mom’s heels, when you were younger, right? When I was younger, I’d try to fit in another woman’s shoes and I liked it. And I was like, “What’s happening? What is this?”
You know, the funny part in the beginning, it was sensation. But growing up with Joey and sort of taking out fantasy from stuff because it wasn’t practical, you can’t just wear that every day. I liked lingerie in the beginning and then I super got over that.
And at the end, everything becomes practical clothing, everyday wear and stuff. That’s when we knew already I was moving forward. And Joey was like, “You’re moving forward too fast.” But yesterday was it. “Wala na,” she said. “No need to slow down anymore.”
When did you open up to Joey about this thing you had?
A few months into our relationship. I told her I like to wear women’s underwear and it escalated from there.
Of course, this was not gonna be easy for your wife, and you knew that, right?
Joey has had her struggles, we had struggles, but we never separated over it. We have been working through it. I have a counsellor, she has a counsellor, we talk to a lot of friends, family.
What does your counsellor tell you?
To live my authentic self, that’s what all counsellors tell people, I think you pay someone to tell you that you are normal. I’m just thinking that hmmm, I know this already!
Was there ever a time when you thought there was something “wrong” with you?
Yes, as a child, I was always thinking about looking at the other side — the girl side. I wish I had longer hair, I wish I had… And then I already knew in grade 6 or grade 7, that I wanted to be a pretty boy. I was thinking why do I want to be a pretty boy. That’s where it started, and I ignored it. Then came sports, cars, got a baby, got a girl pregnant, and fathered a baby — well, I didn’t father a baby — I “sperm donated” a baby at 16.
He now calls you “Mom,” your son Iñigo.
And then after Iñigo, everything has just been crazy — my life just unfolded. We were talking about it, the circles of friends are so tight that when the outside people ask, “Ano ba to?” Everyone around is like, “Wala yan! He’s our brother — back him up!” Or “Yeah we knew all along already.” I haven’t seen people flinch and people who I haven’t seen in ages are messaging me — I’m getting random messages saying, “You guys are awesome!” It’s surreal.
Did you have a fear that people would flinch?
Yes, cars are alpha male — highly alpha male environment and lots of testosterone. Last thing we’d wanna see is that…We are very scared about the Philippines because there are no transgender rights here. I’ll be coined “bakla” just like every other rainbow spectrum part of the LGBT community. Because of that yeah, there is that disconnect where it can be hard to actually explain it to my staff. “Ah, bakla si Sir!” That’s all they’d conclude.
Do they ask?
Recently, they have being seeing me walking around in a dress and their face is like, “What’s happening?” That was the hard part. Joey ended up explaining to the driver how the whole situation is, but he still sort of didn’t get it, so he had to talk to my maid, Nora. Joey knew first, Nora knew second and then my family came after. My household was in it from the beginning.
I gave up male underwear maybe two years after dating Joey. And everything just followed.
After your family found out, what was their reaction about it?
My dad had a hard time, definitely, but even though he had a hard time in the beginning, he was full support in the end. My stepmom was my supporter, my real mom was a supporter, too. My brother was little weirded out with it but came on board and then, we started telling… I just told my cousins a few months before this. But now, there is no need to tell anyone, I don’t need to explain myself anymore.
But you are not gay, right? Or are you?
Sexual preference — no, I’m not gay. I like women. Soft, curvy, yeah, no body hair.
That’s where the confusion stems from. That in the end, you still like women.
I perfectly understand. Sexual expression and sexual preference are two different things. There is no clear description in the Filipino native language, there is no Tagalog version of LGBT…and however how many letters there are — that’s where the blurred lines come from.
In your own research about the LGBT, is this where you realized that more than gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender, it’s really just a human thing, right?
Me and Joey have been going to LA Pride for a few years, we did Miami Pride this year. That’s why we travel because when we travel, no one knows us. I can express myself and figure myself out and then in the recent years since my dad passed away, I’ve been traveling alone because I’m reinventing myself. I’m in a place where no one knows me, they’ve never seen me before, I get to reinvent myself as I unfold. Hence, the traveling — a lot of traveling.
When you first dressed up as a woman in public, how did it feel?
Omigod! Yes, it was super weird. Our first outing night was my birthday back then with Joey. She said, “We are going out!” I said, “Scared!”— I was scared because Manila is so small.
Because Joey said you should go out and face the world the way you are?
We went to Cafe Isabel and we sat there by the corner. I was just in jeans and a loose top, but it was scary. I actually started wearing dresses not too long ago.
What’s your size?
Depends, because on my shoulders, I’m a 10 or 12 and on my here (waist), I’m like a 6.
Do you enjoy shopping?
I love women’s fashion, there are so many choices. Color options, choices, varieties, cuts, everything. You are looking and everything is crazy. I still love doing male things — adrenaline, sports, cars every day obviously and everything with speed.
Aside from coloring your hair, your nails, what else is part of your transformation?
The hair is because I had white hair. I have been lasering for years to remove my body hair so I don’t keep shaving, hair is gross in general.
What were the challenges that you guys had to face with Angie being in the picture?
You actually need to ask that to Joey because she faced most of the challenges, I just faced the fear of rejection. Last thing I want is someone who will face me and say — “I’m gonna kill you.” It’s a possibility, after Orlando, in this homophobic world. It’s just hate. They make it their own personal mission to hate you.
When you go to LA and go out, do you dress as Angie?
Not really, just because I’m not dressed doesn’t mean I’m not Angie. It’s not a costume I put on. When it’s Halloween, people tell me, “Now you can dress as a girl!” Is not a f***ing costume. I don’t do this because it’s a costume, I do this because it’s me. Just like Danish Girl.
In Danish Girl, she had desires to be with a man.
Yes, but you can research this, sexual preference and sexual identity are totally different. Even the way I feel, I like my guy friends but no way. Don’t get me wrong, feminine men are beautiful but overmasculine, hairy and too much muscle … appreciation of people comes in many shapes.
What if as Angie a man will hit on you?
Thank God, I’m tall. I still want to do my athletics, don’t want to lose my abs and that was the most confusing part for me because I go shooting, car racing, surfing, I jump off stuff, we used to fly helicopters, name it, I’ve done it.
So, your dad knew the whole time?
He knew in 2009, when I told my family and my friends. He had a hard time, so our revelation was when he got sick in Germany. I took the whole time, I never went home, I took mini breaks and drove around, but when I was there, I had Joey fly in and then that’s when I broke down and told myself I can’t live like this anymore. I’m going nuts like two sides of me, two voices are fighting. You can do this, you can’t do that. There was confusion and now it’s just clarity. It’s still dreamy at the moment because everyone’s reaction is just amazing. If it was this easy, we should have come out sooner, I told Joey.
Why did you take so long?
Because I was scared, but I finally grew balls to come out. I never imagined this thing we were scared about was going to liberate us. We never expected it. Not just me, but Joey is overwhelmed with the love and support. Everyone is here for us, it’s really nuts.
When did Joey agree to make it public?
We had really serious arguments about everything, the biggest fear was being badgered by society, we were scared that the trolls of society would attack. They probably still will, but there’s so much love and support and that’s the cool part. I was thinking people might say I’m doing it for marketing. Dude, you don’t just wake up one day and say, “I want be a woman.” It’s something you thought of for a long time.
Where do you guys intend to take this after the revelation and being open to the public about Angie?
That’s what we were wondering about. I sort of feel pressured now, so many people are watching and I feel pressured about it. When I’m in LA, I don’t dress all the time, but I wear androgynous stuff, my normal wear. I need to learn how to do woman stuff, it takes years before you learn sizes and what works for your body type.
Other transwomen, they take pills. Do you take hormones?
I’m taking medication through an endocrinologist, he’s a licensed doctor and he monitors my blood levels every two months and adjusts the hormones. First, it takes testosterone blockers and then you supplement it with estrogen.
When you get this treatment, what’s the end goal of that?
It’s a second puberty where your body is reborn into a different gender because you are alternating it with hormones, so in two to three years, it would be finished and will transfer my body with a distribution of body fat and breasts, that is already starting. I measured when I started. My chest has grown a little — from 36 to 37 — and my waist has gotten smaller.
Is the end goal here to take out your privates and change them into those of a woman?
That’s a weird part, I’m happy with my privates and that should remain private. It’s no one’s business. Why does it matter? I have a partner, we are faithful and loyal. We have been living with each other for more than 10 years. You introduced us and you married us, too. It’s gone full circle.
Did you open this Instagram account to have a venue to post yourself as Angie?
Yes, I need it to connect with other people like me, it makes me feel normal.
Are you, Angie, partial to the color purple?
I just find it royal. I like doing the purple and gold, I have it on my hair, nails, and also in my cars.
What are your friends telling you?
I keep asking my friends: Is this happening? Is it real? And they are like, “Dude, you’re a nice person and there is no reason for people to hate you.”
I also saw some pictures of you being partial to pink.
Yes, I like all the colors. That’s the nice part. You don’t need to be stuck to anything. I like my blacks and grays, but when I want to wear color, yes!
So with this newfound freedom you put up a business in LA, you bought more cars also. When do you tell yourself that you need to buy a new car?
All car collectors will always want to buy a new car. It’s in the picture.
Do you have enough garage space to accommodate all your prized possessions?
Well, that’s why I opened car shops because they supplement the business. It gives me more reasons to show off the cars because I’m promoting my business. We have a car shop here at Veterans Center, it’s beside the old FTI, but my new car shop is located near the C5 area.
How many cars do you have right now?
I have no idea. Maybe 13 here, three in LA.
What I’ve heard is that you have 20?
Probably, because I have three in Germany also.
People know the number of your cars more than you.
Because people follow me on Instagram.
The passing of your dad told you how short life is?
Our family is such strategic thinkers. Since I’m working so hard, let me enjoy the world — travel, meet people. I have so many great friends in Los Angeles and I have been there only for three months. My friends who live there are like, “Dude, you can get in places that we’ve never been in.” “Come with me!,” Angie says. Everyone is like slow clapping, there are no more bad dreams that are gonna come true.
Because at first, you saw it like it was a bad dream?
Yeah, I thought it was gonna be a bad dream, but it’s not. It’s a beautiful dream, everything is beautiful.
What are you scared of now?
I’m scared of the beauty culture. How women are photoshopped, beautified and cut out into sections that they use for advertising.
And now that’s gonna be upon you, right?
Maybe because I like makeup and stuff, but I don’t wear makeup all the time. Everyone says that Joey and I look alike, because we are in sync with each other so our expressions are really similar. It’s like going into a different country and trying to pick up the accent when you are there.
It’s like you and Joey becoming one in the way you express yourself and the way you look. Because couples end up looking alike. Did you find in your wife a woman to look up to?
Yes, Joey helped me to progress way faster than I would. As much as she enjoyed in the beginning and hated it later on, she realized, wait what’s happening? Just like in The Danish Girl, I broke her because she lost face where her knight in shining armour wanted to be a princess… That was the hard part for us, but we picked up the pieces, we figured out what our relationship was — we love each other and this is not gonna break us. Rock and roll, let’s try, are you gonna give up before you try, this is what we are trying. Joey is super pumped also because there is so much support for her, too; she’s more awesome than awesome.
When Caitlin Jenner came out, did you think that was the sign you were waiting for? Did you want to come out at that time also?
I believe everything is timing also. I was happy that Caitlin came out because she was out as a male and now is Caitlin. That makes it easier to describe to people like, hey, I’m transitioning. What do you mean? Doing a Caitlin Jenner — it’s the fastest and easiest way to deliver the statement before the questions start coming in.
Did she become a peg for you?
Yes, she was the peg. That’s what she wants to be also so it’s very cool. Makes you feel even more normal when bigger individuals do something like this. It’s funny because on my social media, the girls follow me because of my fashion, and the guys because of the cars and travels, now I feel pressured.
Right now, what is your state of mind?
Dreaming, I can’t believe it is happening like this.
Just like in The Danish Girl, I broke her because she lost face where her knight in shining armour wanted to be a princess… - Ian/Angie
ReplyDeleteLove wins!
That ling also hit me and I imagine the struggle that Joey had to overcome tapos may mababasa ka dito sa FP na gold digger siya? Who are you to judge this couple? I'm really surprise that (some) trans are still attracted to woman. Trivia sakin to.
DeleteI really don't get the logic behind "Joey stayed with Ian/Angie kasi mayaman" eh sa ganda ni Joey, I'm sure she get anyone she wants. But no, she stayed with Angie. Tapos early on in their relationship pa nag-confess si Angie, pero in the end pinakasalan pa rin ni Joey. This is love!
DeleteBtw, sexual orientation is different from gender identity.
SHE IS A TRANSLESBIAN.
DeleteHawig ni Ian si Nadine. Puede sila mag tita.
DeleteSa nakikita k mahal talaga nila ang isat isa. Aabi k nga sa asawa k kung sakaling naging katulad sya ni ian d k nmn sya hihiwalayan dahil mahal k sya. Basta wag lang nyang bababuyin ang pagsasama namin. U know what i mean...
DeleteLove it ❤️
ReplyDeleteNatapos ko. Not really agreeing with LGBT by my gay friends are only sooo sooo nice to me so I love them back! And Angie sounds really happy and relieved. Credit to the wife as well. God loves us all.
ReplyDeleteWow! Just wow! I super love her story.❤️ I need to watch The Danish Girl.
ReplyDeleteHindi daw siya gay and she likes women. Lesbian ka. so Gay ka. What a hypocrite write up.
ReplyDeleteHe explained it naman.He said he wanted his looks more like a woman pero ang gender preference niya is still a woman.Confusing nga pero diba lahat naman ng gays parang peg ang mga babae pero type ang mga lalaki at siya nasa middle na walang description.Okay na yun atleast tanggap siya ng wife niya.
DeleteKasi nga, gaya ng sabi nya sa interview, walang direct Filipino translation ang trans. Bakla (gay), tomboy (lesbian, although ginagamit din sa Ingles ang tomboy), silahis (bisexual). Pag hindi ka nag translate sa local language, mas madali maintindihan.
DeleteSilahis ang tawag dun 10:17
DeleteHomosexuality isn't clear cut black and white. It's a spectrum. FYI to 2:24
Deleteso what you're saying is the is a "degree" in homosexuality? Just asking
DeleteHi 5:39, homosexuality- with 'homo' meaning "same', is sexual attraction or sexual behavior between members of the same sex or gender. There are no degrees- you are either attracted to the same sex or not. Transgender is something else.
Delete12:12 hindi silahis ang trans. Ang silahis ay bisexual o chickboy - pwede sa chicks, pwede sa boys.
Delete10:33 ang hirap mag explain diba?!
Teh magbasa ng mabuti. read between the lines.
DeleteWla nman may pakialam sau except un circle mo. All we know and recognize is angelo king. Ikaw lng ng sensationalize ng buhay and coming out mo. So kung motel prince ka?!?! Its u guys who feel that ur coming out is a big deal. The rest of the world still goes on whether u wear panty or brief.
ReplyDeletePara siguro sayo, wala kang paki pero madaming tao na katulad nya na confussed din pero nagkaroon or magkakaroon ng lakas ng loob na pwede silang tanggapin ng mga nakakaraming tao na may malawak na isip para umintindi. Pero sa mga judgmental na tulad ng iba dito, mahirap talaga intindihin kasi de-kahon lang mga isip nyo.
DeleteYung mga comment like 2:25's ang di ko gets. Walang pakialam pero nagbabasa at nagco-comment. How ironic.
DeleteHater spotted! You'll never know the feeling hanggat di mo nararanasan. Madali lang mang husga ng tao, isa lang sya sa napakaraming tao na na-confuse kung ano ba talaga sila, myself included.
DeleteLily of the Philippines. :-)
ReplyDeleteKahit anong sypatcha pa ang ibigay ng madla, MALI pa rin ang kunsentihin ang ganitong baluktot na pagmamahal. Good luck na lang sa final judgment.
ReplyDeleteang mga katulad mo na hater at nagmamalinis ang dapat tanggalin Sa mundo na to. We don't need judgmental people like you. Pwe!
DeleteKung totoo man na isang destination ang langit sa afterlife, kung ikaw lang rin mkakasama sa langit anon 3:17,no thanks.
DeleteWala pa ngang final judgment nagjajudge ka na? Di ka diyos.
Delete3:17 Nag babasa ka ng bible diba? So alam mo din na nakasulat dun na sa pag judge mo sa kapwa mo eh sa emyerno din ang bagsak mo.
DeleteLAKAS MAKASABI NG FINAL JUDGMENT E WALA NAMANG NAKAKAALAM TALAGA KUNG MAY GANIYAN O WALA.
Delete3:41 walang nakaka alam or bulag bulagan k lng? E anong purpose of our existence laro2 lng ? E di sana ginawa nlng tayong insect or palaka na walang pag iisip & wisdom to know what is right & wrong.
DeleteMapera kasi si Ian King, pero kung hindi yan mayaman, i dont think joey mead can face the people and pe happy about it, and di rin siguro niya maaaccept ito oy. Sino bang babaeng gusto magjowa ng ganyan?
ReplyDeleteAt the very first place I dont think Joey would be with someone who cant give her a lavish life. True,being a woman deep inside meron ka parin talagang wants na magkaroon ng alpha male partner who complements you.
DeleteMoney is a powerful motivator...
DeleteAnd CONVENIENCE!
DeleteMasakit man siguro aminin, pero totoo yang sinasabi mo.
Delete99% true! pero si Joey ang 1% tandaan there is always an exemption to the rule. Joey and Angline -- They are part of the exemption. #SorryNotSorry
DeletePlease lang ha. Sa ganda ni Joey she can be with anyone that she wants. She can be with someone who is rich AND straight, if she wanted. Also, early on in their relationship, alam na nya na trans si Ian. She could've broken up with him by then. So, no. I don't agree that she stayed with Ian/Angie because of the money.
Deletemarriage of convenience
Deletepower money and acceptance...
Si Ogie Diaz may wife and kids..
DeleteTrue.. kalokohan .in short Ayaw nya lang masabihang bakla .. sa mundo kasi ng mga gay may discrimination na agad.
DeleteJoey is still very hot. She can still get a rich guy if she wanted to. Mukhang mahal naman nya talaga si Ian/Angie
Deletesorry ha pro i dont really find joey mead pretty.
DeleteSiguro naiisip nyo yan dahil siguro yan lang ang makakamotivate sa inyo sa sitwasyon na ganito. Hindi kay maka-relate sa taong kayang magmahal ng masinsinan.
DeleteOo maswerte silang dalawa at may kakayahan sila sa buhay pero higit pa dyan may mga taong nagmamahal sa kanila at kaya nilang mahalin at tanggapin ang isa't isa.
Tanggapin nalang ninyong di kaya ito na mas swerte sila sa inyo o sa mga minamahal ninyong maraming kondisyon.
money changes everythang including sex !
DeleteDko gets gusto nya mag dress as girl pero di daw sya bakla ano tawag mo dun? Kaloka naman paki explain lol. Bakla ka e aminin mo na!!
ReplyDeleteGusto lang nya magbihis at magayos babae pero babae pa rin ang gusto nyang makapartner kaya nga hindi sila naghiwalay ng asawa nya at ayaw nyang ipatanggal ang private part nya at kung may lalaking lalapit sa kanya ayaw nya pa rin. Fascinated lang nga talaga sya sya sa mga girly stuff.
DeleteGanyan din si Bruce/Caitlyn diba? Step by step lang siguro.In the meantime yan lang muna ang looks niya ang ioopen up niya sa public.Pero buhay niya rin naman yan baks haha hayaan na natin
DeleteTransgender. Stupid mo!
DeleteLesbian ako at hindi ibig sabihin non na gusto kong magmukhang lalake. Nag-dress lang bading na agad?!
Deleteiba daw po ang Gender Identity sa Sexual Preference
DeleteLGBT has a different stands. There are gays who like men. Gays who wanted to be a woman but still like a woman. Gays who wanted to be a woman to date a guy. Lesbian who's the girl in the relationship. Lesbian who's the boy in the relationship. KANYA KANYA SILA NG PINAGDADAANAN. Hindi porke iba ang feelings nila sa ordinary male at female eh abnormal na sila. Again, di nila kasalanan na yan ang na-assign na gender preferences nila. I'm a catholic female who wants to respect their commmunity dahil kahit sino sa atin, has no right to judge. We're all bound to be judge by our creator, ONLY OUR CREATOR. Not you or her or him. And if these community seeks God, who are you to judge them? #RESPECTWins
Delete5:00 gusto nga ni Ian magmukhang babae kaya sya nagddress, make -up, at may mga pills na sya iniinom. He's going a transformation. Hindi na din malayo na maiisip n din nya magpa sex organ change.
DeleteA trans feel he is a woman assigned to wrong body. Kaya maraming proseso bago sila magtransition, like counseling. So para kay Ian, hindi siya bading.. Babae ang feel niya para sa sarili niya. Turns out, kahit babae ang gusto niya for him.. He still likes woman. Di niyo magets? Ask a psychologists or google niyo pag may time.
DeleteHaay swerte mo mayaman ka , kilala sa society kaya puro love ang comments sayo , kung naging poor ka well asa ka p merong mag support sa yo
Delete12:48 magpacounseling k sa psychiatrist. Ang gulo ng sinasabi mo eh.
DeleteAng dami talagang tanga sa mundo. Mapaka pang judge lang eh.
DeleteAno daw admit that youre gay!!! Di naman pweseng gusto mo girly stuff tas babae pa dn gusto mo o cmmon!!
ReplyDeleteTeh si Caitlyn babae na pero girl pa din Ang gusto!
DeleteIba ang gay sa trans. Ano ba.
DeleteNakipag relasyon n b si caitlyn sa babae? Attracted lang yata? kahit nman ako, nagccrush ako sa babae pero hindi ako nakikipagrelasyon. iba na yun.
DeleteSexual preference and sexual expression are two different things. Binanggit na nga sa article eh. Read up about the differences para you'd be a little less ignorant, 3:36.
DeleteShes basically a lesbian now right? ??
DeleteI salute you Joey Mead for being a strong woman.
ReplyDeleteuntil when
DeleteMaraming salamat sa pagpaintindi..i myself was curious how will your setup be..kasi parang aware lang ako sa LGBT and if u fall among these 4 categories, it also goes with sexual preference AND sexual expression hand in hand..hindi pala..m also happy that you felt 'freed'. Everybody deserves to be able to express themselves freely and truly as long as it doesn't harm or hurt.
ReplyDeleteAfford nyang magtravel ng magtravel para sa mga kadramahan kuno eh pano yung mga may problemang ganyan pero can't afford na gawin ang mga ginawa nya tiyak mas maramibg struggles.
ReplyDeleteThat's true, pero ano ba dapat nya gawin? I-sacrifice ang travel dahil kawawa naman ang mga trans na walang pang travel? Eh di wag ka na kumain kasi kawawa naman ang mga taong walang pagkain.
DeleteYes, kawawa naman yung mga iba na hindi afford mag travel tulad ni Angie, dahil they would be stuck in an existence that allow bigots like you to judge their plight as "kadramahan" and diminish them as less than human simply because you choose to fear and judge what you are unable to understand. What a shame. What a shame that if you procreate, you'd fail to teach your children the true values of respect, love and acceptance. That instead of teaching them compassion, you would teach them hate, because it would be easier and more convenient to be indifferent and detached from the realities of life. May life treat you and your loved ones no less than how you treat your all your neighbors so that you may understand what it feels to be treated with indignation and hatred. Ok to edit as you please FP, but please keep the gist of my msg intact. Thank you.
DeleteWow 10.34. I have tears in my eyes. Sana kasi those who do not understand, wag naman mang bully or mag spread ng hatred and ignorance. Sometimes it's better to be compassionate dahil may struggle pa rin kahit paano ang taong gusto mag transition. We can learn from each other by embracing our differences.
Deletenakakalungkot basahin ang mga comments dito. Maraming nagmamalinis at ginagawang dahilan ang kanya kanyang relihiyon para mang husga ng kapwa. Hindi porket naiiba ang isa ay huhusgahan mo na.
DeleteAfford nyang magtravel ng magtravel para sa mga kadramahan kuno eh pano yung mga may problemang ganyan pero can't afford na gawin ang mga ginawa nya tiyak mas maramibg struggles.
ReplyDeleteThis article made me understand Angie/Ian more, not that he owed the world an explanation. The comments section, on the other hand, made me realize how harsh the world could be to people who apparently do not live up to the standards of what a human being should be. And this is just sad.
ReplyDeleteI know right? Madaming ayaw mag expand ng knowledge and understanding. Kaya siguro hindi umuunlad ang bansa natin.
DeleteIkakaunlad pala ng bansa natin kung maiiintidihan ng lahat yung different classifications of trans. lol
DeleteKung nagbabasa ka lang ng mabuti 6:20PM ang sinasabi ni 12:07 ay "ayaw mag expand ng knowledge and understanding" and it's a general statement. Kaya nga nya sinabing hindi umuunlad ang Pilipinas dahil maraming katulad mo na kulang sa kaalaman at hirap na hirap sa pagiintindi.
DeleteTagalog na yan.
So ano nag jug pa din sila? He likes girls daw eh. Tsaka pwede ba HE pa din siya dahil hindi naman siya mag papalit ng privates.
ReplyDeleteKhit magpalit pa ng organ lalake parin cya.
Deleteeveryone deserves to be happy. so support ako sa kanya
ReplyDeleteNot everything that makes u happy is good for you
DeleteI support you Ian. You should be proud of who you are. There's nothing to be ashamed for being gay.
ReplyDeleteJoey kung talagang mahal mo si Ian, set him free. Let him be a full-blown trans.
ReplyDeleteAngie does not want to let her go. He/She is in love with her. The privates will stay because Angie/Ian likes to use them. Who are you to dictate?
DeleteMadaming ganyan sa mundo, nasa pagtangap lang ng Tao, may kakilala ako lolo na mas makapal pang mag lipstick sa asawa nya, kaya wag judgemental. Maging happy na lang tayo para Kay angie at joey
ReplyDeleteAnd the "Wife of the Year Award" goes to.. Joey Mead..
ReplyDeleteUhmm, no. While she has her share of struggles, madami pa din wives na mas matindi ang hinaharap na problema. Hindi naman nakakatawa ang joke mo.
Deletemore of martry wife
DeleteAgree Anon 10:29..Easy pa nga itong kay Joey.
DeleteTrue. For example, imagine ang torture na inaabot ng wives ng mga male na sobrang babaero. Mas kawawa sila.
DeleteThere goes the saying...the truth will set you free. I salute you and your wife especially. Joey has an appareled of unconditional love for you Angelie/Ian. Everybody deserves to be happy. We should give him the love and understanding.
ReplyDeleteParamg yung movie na danish girl
ReplyDeletekawawa din sya. ang hirap ng ganyan parang sasabog sa gulo ng sarili mo. yung hirap ng pinagdaanan nya sa sarili nya. kahit naexplain na parang ang gulo pa rin intindihin. ang impt lang ay maging malaya sya, kapagod din ng di mo mailabas totoong sarili mo.
ReplyDeleteHindi nya kase matanggap na gay sya kaya sya naguguluhan! Ayaw nya kase ma-label as gay.
DeleteKaya nga sinong straight man would want girly stuffs?? Come on!
DeleteThis is actually very informative para sa mga open minded pero hindi pa rin entirely knowledgeable sa subject matter ng pagiging trans. Like yung sinasabing difference sa gender identity and sexual preference.
ReplyDeleteHindi ko magets yung mga pinipilit na, gay ka, aminin mo na. Ayan na nga yung explanation niya eh. You can be confused sa explanation pero that doesnt give you the right to be rude.
Pag sinabi mo bang gay sya? Rude na? Where is your hate for gays coming from?
Delete5:47 shunga lang? di naman sinabing yung sabihing gay ang pagiging rude. yun yung pagpilit na sabihing gay sya kahit hindi naman. ang hirap nyo naman umintindi
Delete11:59 ikaw ang shunga! exclamation point yan hindi question mark! Gay sya, accept it!
DeleteWho are we to judge? When we ourselves are not perfect...Ok this may be the unconventional type of love but we cannot say that these two people don't love each other..It may be really different from the usual husband and wife but if they accept each other and hey good luck to them.Marriage is hard work and who are we to say they won't last..lets just be happy for them.
ReplyDeleteWag k magmalinis dahil sure ako na you're also judging other people.
DeleteNakakalungkot lang na kapag hamak na dukha ang nasa situation nya, hindi love and support and karamihan ng maririnig mo sa mga tao. Malamang lait o kung ano anong name calling. Maswerte sya kasi mayaman sya and she/he can be fashionable and even sensationalize his/her story. He is surrounded by people who somehow can "influence" others. #equality
ReplyDeleteOo kaya kahit sa ibang bansa maraming nag susuicide dahil sa mga pang aapi ng tao.
DeleteTama.. Ung kapitbahay naming bading pag nagddress, binabastos sa kanto. They are lucky mayaman sila, kung mahirap lang si ian king, hindi love and support ang makukuha niya kundi panglalait.
DeleteFortunately napakayaman niya. Maswerte siya.
DeleteHe can buy all the make up and branded clothes, ride his fancy cars and gets the love and support not just from friends and family. Pero si totoy sa kanto nung sinuot damit ng Ate niya, di lang binastos sa kanto binugbog pa. Nakakalungkot lang...
DeleteDon't get me wrong, I'm happy for him pero sana lahat makakuha ng respeto sa "change" na pinili nila kahit na anong status mo sa buhay.
Well said, 12:42. There will always be a double standard. Sad but true.
DeleteHindi rin. Hindi kami rich. Ilang cousins ko ang gay, nagddress paminsan minsan kung ano feel nila suotin, go lang. hindi nman ginawang big deal ng family namin. We treat them as normal persons. Hindi kami nagooveranalyze at nagooverthink sa pagkatao nila. As long as mabuti silang tao, yun ang importante.
Deleteang lalaki na gusto na maging tomboy at ang babae na attracted sa cross dresser gnun ka simple.
ReplyDeletePsychologically Damaged itong tao na 'to. At si joey mead, she must be suffering/struggling in silence. This is so disturbing,this kind of set up,but they have to pretend to be ok & not affected by it, kc kung ppkita nila na di sila ok esp joey mead, means weakness on their part mas lalo sila aatakehin ng bashers for it. But this kind of scenario will sure bring a deep scar over one's self esp Joey Mead.
ReplyDeleteI agree. Despite the happy pictures, I am worried for Joey. A woman has her needs too. Nuff said.
DeleteI feel so sad for you that you were raised in a bad environment that you would see negative in this situation. May you find true happiness in your life one day.
DeleteAgree.
Deletesad but most probably.. true
DeleteSa totoo lang nakalilito ang mundo ng lgbt pati yung mga terminology nla... gay, trangender, pansexual romantic etc, etc. sa tingin ko crossdresser lng si ian.
ReplyDeleteexactly.
DeleteFor those judging Joey about her decision to accept and love her husband for who he is, just think of it this way. It may difficult to comprehend that it's pure love, one may think it's because of the money. But at the end of the day, couples stick together because they need companionship. Beauty fades, sexual drive ceases, and money depletes. The only thing that remains is your desire to have someone whom you can be with for the rest of your life. Their relationship is unconventional, but it's the best example of what we call true friendship.
ReplyDeleteI don't know. It's vague to me. He had a sexual re-assignment yet he still likes women? I would fire his counselor. The counselor is supposed to be there to help you discover yourself.
ReplyDeleteAko teh susunugin kita! Nasaan ang re-assignment? Ayaw nya nga diba? Mas gusto nya yung male part nya.
DeleteA great read. Now I understand better. Just answered many questions I had to ask. And also this must be the longest article FP ever blogged haha but I read it all
ReplyDeleteAng tingin ko dyan, trans talaga sya. Ngayon kase hindi mo ma-categorize as trans kase girl ang karelasyon nya at ayaw nyanpa magpa change ng private. Kaya lang nung mga time na nagpakasal sya kay joed, nilalabanan p nya sarili nya. Eh hindi n nya kaya now, kaya nag-out n sya. It turns out, joey is there, considerate sya kay joey alangan nman dispatsahin nya ng ganun ganun lang. Masakit kay joey kung kay Ian manggagaling na makikipaghiwalay sya, Ian respects joey a lot. Kaya nga dapat kay joey manggaling. Joey should set him free.
ReplyDeletei have an officemate in same situation. he "was" a guy married to a woman. he later transformed into "she" but they still are married. yeah, s/he wanted to be a lesbian. ang dami nyan dito sa north america. shocking lang sa umpisa but you'll get used to it.
ReplyDelete‘Gay’, ’Lesbian’ and ‘Bisexual’ refer to sexual orientation, in other words – who you are attracted to. A man who is attracted to other men could identify as ‘Gay’ or ‘Homosexual’. Same can be said for a woman attracted to other women.
ReplyDelete‘Transgender’ is often used to mean ‘Transsexual’ (Transgender refers to a larger group of people than that) has to do with one’s gender identity. Gender Identity is how one identifies in terms of maleness or femaleness. For a transgender or transsexual person one’s gender identity is different from what one might expect given ones natal or biological sex (‘Sex’ here refers to one’s biological sex – how one was born.) Gender is not always the same as one’s sex. ‘Gender Identity’ is how one feels inside, and Sexual Orientation is who one is attracted to vis-à-vis your current gender presentation.
Sex = male
DeleteGender identity = woman
Sexual orientation = man
Ian is then bi-trans
Ginagawa nyo lang kumplikado. Ian is gay, ano ba! Iba't ibang klase nman ang gay sabi nga ni rustom. Wag n kyong gumawa ng madaming classification, ginugulo nyo lang lalo utak ni Ian. He is gay. Clear & simple. And I respect gays.
DeleteAHAHAHA! Nakakaloka kayong mga nag reply eh sakto naman yung explanation ng original poster. Kayo yung nag complicate. Kalurks!
DeleteAngie is a transwoman who is attracted to women. By this, she's a lesbian. Hindi sya attracted to other men! She even said it herself sa interview. Nagbasa kayo?
Kung hindi nyo pa rin gets, watch kayo ng I Am Cait tv series. It's about Caitlyn Jenner's transformation but it also talks about being trans itself. Be educated guys kung mag-cocomment kayo.
Grabe mka comment etong 1:01 teh maging Christian ka nga ok nmn and comment ni 11:01.Wag sobrang bitter mas gusto ni God for us to be kind.Wala k cgurong love life dbale pag pray kta mag ka jowa kna kawawa k nmn.
ReplyDeletei truly love their story very very inspiring, and no Im not gay. But I was just wondering baka lesbian si Joey? Wala lang sumagi lang sa isip ko
ReplyDeletesana po yung mga di nalang makaintindi, shut up nalang. kasi kahit ako marami akong di maintindihan, di ko naman ipipilit na "hindi eh bakla ka, hypocrite", etc. kasi di naman po tayo yung tao. wala tayo sa kalagayan nya. wala tayong karapatan. lalo na kung di ka kabilang sa lgbt community, complicated talaga. kaya sana tumahimik nalang. okay lang naman magbigay ng opinyon, wag nalang magbigay ng judgment lalo na kung wala kang alam.
ReplyDeleteNaiintindihan namin na bakla sya and there's nothing wrong with it. I support him for coming out.
DeleteIn all of these statements and explanations my question is, did they ever plan to have a child of their own? Or they never planned/thought about it at all since Ian has issues?
ReplyDeleteIn 10 years hindi sila nag-anak. Woman nga daw yung isa, hindi pwedeng magkaanak ang dalawang babae.
DeleteWoman inside but he is still a man physically and since Ian doesn't want his privates to be removed then that means... you know. :)
DeleteI think you're right 2:30 am...it's the companionship that counts esp. If you're getting old..but in the end, marriage always have a sad ending..one dies ahead of the other.
ReplyDeleteAs long as he/she isn't hurting anyone.
ReplyDeleteRespect and love
Eto talaga ang masasabi kong true love. Joey has all the chance to leave Ian but she refused but still valued their marriage. Ang ganda ng story nila, unlike the usual scene sa movies na pag belong sa third sex ang asawa nya later on hihiwalayan nya pero ito, iba. Kudos to you both.
ReplyDeleteTrue love wins
I dont agree. If joey really loves Ian, she will set him free and let him embrace his being a trans. Kaya hindi makapag all-out si Ian is because of her.
DeleteHuh? Later on si Joey na nga rin ang parang nagbigay ng go signal na mag-out na siya. Mind you, 3:52, babae pa din po ang gusto ni Ian according sa kanya at sinabi niya din na hindi ang pagiging trans niya ang makakapagpahiwalay sa kanila ni Joey which means ayaw niya na i-let go siya ng wife niya.
Deletethis is little hard to grasp but who are we to judge, right? i personally think he is very brave to be able to be his true self. it only makes me think more of other men in the same predicament but do not have the means and support to do what angie did, and that's really sad.
ReplyDeleteah so hindi sya gay? tibo pala.
ReplyDeleteHe is gay. Anong tibo? Ang weird nman nun. Pinapagulo lang ng iba, dami daming explanation, bakit ayaw nila sa gays. Kung ano anong pinagsasabi. Ang simple lang nman ng sitwasyon, Ian is gay and joey accepts it.
DeleteHindi siya all out. In denial pa rin siya.
ReplyDeleteSa tingin ko, ang reason kaya ayaw pa nya mag all out is bcoz of joey. He respects joey and at the same time he couldn't contain anymore his being gay. Kaya dapat palayain n sya ni joey para makapag all out n sya.
DeleteWhat's Love Got to do With It? Nothing. It is just made up of different chemicals mixing together in your brain that triggers a nice feeling. Para lang yang orgasm na when you reach climax, your brain gets flooded with endorphins kaya sarap na sarap ka.
ReplyDeleteTrue love talaga, ibang klase ang love story nila, kahit transwoman na si ian, loyal p dn sya kay joey, vice versa. Tinanggap ni joey si ian kahit may issue. Sna magka baby pa din sila.
ReplyDeleteIan is undergoing transformation. Maghintay k lang, mag a all out din yan.
DeleteIn 10 years hindi sila gumawa ng baby. Kung kelang 40 na si joey, ngayon pa? Baka mahirapan n sya magbuntis.
DeleteOMG! Congrats to me, natapos ko cya basahin. This is so kilig to read. Being loyal and respectful to the wife is true love. The sad part is he just thought that his love for color and fashion of the girls made him want to be a woman. He can do that by a designer, make up artist or other fields without being gay. I agree with 4:08, it will come a time na magbabago din yan when he's full blown.
DeleteI feel the sincerity between the two. Question is, how long makakaya ni Joey esp after Ian's complete transformation?
ReplyDeleteHappy with this news. Its about time! Pinoys are very judgemental . Daming overly religious pero very. Unspiritual na tao. So its good that this couple opened up to the public. we need lessons on tolerance.
ReplyDeleteVery inspiring :)
ReplyDeleteI admire that Joey speaks Tagalog, kahit paminsan.minsan lang. I love hearing her speak it, perfect diction & accent.
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