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Wednesday, January 6, 2016

FB Scoop: Liza Dino-Seguerra Opts to be Assertive Towards Views of Narrow-minded People


Images courtesy of Facebook: Liza Dino-Seguerra

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  1. His? It might be Aiza's preferred pronoun pero sila mismo ni Liza nag attract ng cristicisims or bashing. You don't hear Ellen n tawagin si Portia using the pronoun his . That's why Bruce Jenner changed his name to Caitlyn. Pero choice nyo yan nkkaumay LNG tong 2 n to hmmphhh

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    1. Ellen is a lesbian. Aiza is a transman. Learn the difference at gamutin mo 1230AM ang ignorance mo bago ka magcomment or maglogon man sa internet.

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    2. Aiza uses his because transgender (undergoing prep for transplant) sya unlike ellen na lesbian (meaning walang balak magtransplant). Regardless buhay nila yan so kebs

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    3. Kahit mag pa transplant pa si Aiza ng 100 x pinanganak pa din syang SHE at never magiging HE. Pinaglololoko lang nila mga sarili nila. Maging discreet na lang kasi sa mga plano nila ni Liza para makaiwas na mapuna. Di naman nila masisi mga taong di sang ayon sa relasyon nila so pinaka solusyon iwas na lang na mapag usapan sila.

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    4. Anon 3:13 well smartypants why don't you get off your high horse! Did u even bother to read what I posted? I said that you don't hear Ellen use the pronounce "his" re Portia. Did I ask anybody to differentiate lesbian, transman etc. Ignorance my a€$ apektado kang masyado haha you can't tell people what to comment. Ikaw na ang matalino clap clap

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    5. At least try to read on the nuances of gender preference bago ka kumuda. Napaghahalataan kang walang kaalam alam, napaka mema.

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    6. 12:30 - KUNG HINDI KA TALAGA MEMBER NG LGBT, HINDI MO MAIINTINDIHAN. HAHAHAHAHA!

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    7. 12:30 5:45. Portia is the Liza in the relationship. portia is the girl!!! It is Ellen who identifies with the male gender. Talagang mas matalino kami sa iyo. You are a know it all tantrum throwing brat.

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    8. gusto nilang tanggapin sila ng tao pero sarili mismo nila hindi matanggap na babae (tomboy) or lalake (bakla) talaga sila.

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  2. It will be a forever battling cycle with this couple. They chose to be public with their social media so must be ready for boorish comments. It's actually different for male
    to male relationships here in the PH. Mas respected/tolerated unlike woman to woman kasi iba mag respeto talaga sa babae as babae. Kaya pag ganito like Aiza's relationship, marami talagang magbibigay ng opinion nila na hindi maganda.

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    1. I'm a gay male and I just wanna say that ur reasoning is prejudicial. Does it mean bcoz both of them are biologically female they should be treated differently.. meaning dahil babae, second class treatment still regardless if they are straight or gay? Now the question is how do people define equality then with regards to Gender and sexuality?

      On a personal note, I have 2 good friends. 2 gay men and happily married living in manila. They have 2 kids both from a surrogate. The eldest is now studying in a Catholic school which ised to be an exclusive schools for boys. I'm happy to share that the eldest is so accepting and it didn't really matter if he has two dads. At 7 yrs old and full of curiousity, the boy is more open and better educated than most of us. Such a shame.

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    2. Double standard... Fipinos should be educated on this issue and reality.

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  3. sabi nga ng isang hollywood celebrity, "when you share to the public what is dear and private to you, it becomes cheap." mga bagay na di naman ikakaulad ng pilipinas, sarilihin niyo na lang. mahilig din kasi kayo magpapampam.

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    1. Sharing is a preference. What you quoted is an opinion. Don't shove it onto others in such a way na you brand as "cheap" whatever they choose to share with the public. That's unfair.

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    2. Yes. I have a lesbian partner and i find these two annoying. Sobrang papansin din kasi.

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    3. anon 9:35 labo. tagalog na lang.

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  4. As long as masaya ka kebs na lang sa mga hanash. Hindi ko nilalahat pero yung mahilig mag qoute from the bible sila pa ang masama ang ugali.

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    1. agree! marami akung kilalang ganyan bwahahaha

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  5. Idamay mo talaga ang religion? Bakit totoo naman na yun nag.ga.guide sa values ng maraming Pilipino.

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    1. I hope the word RESPETO would slap you. Catholic ako and I respect LGBT. Even Pope Francis reminded us that "IF GAYS/LESBIANS SEEK OF GOD, WHO AM I TO JUDGE?".

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    2. Your comprehension level is amazing... amazingly horrible.

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    3. Abide faith, hope and love. And the greatest of these, is LOVE. Corintians 13 teh. In my opinion, as long as the love is true at hindi ka nakikipagsex sa same-sex mo out of kalib**gan lang, hindi yun kasalanan. If the love is true and the center of it is God, who are we to judge?

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    4. @1:28AM
      You must not lie down with a male in the same way that you lie down with a woman. It is a detestable act. Leviticus 18:22

      Magbasa ka teh ng buong bible wag lang Corinthians.

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    5. You must not lie down with a male in the same way that you lie down with a woman. It is a detestable act. Leviticus 18:22

      Magbasa ka teh ng buong bible wag lang Corinthians.

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    6. RELIGION is the reason why there is a WAR, HATRED, DISCRIMINATION, and other INJUSTICES.

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    7. PWEDE BA, WAG MO NGANG PAGBALINGAN ANG RELIGION ANO? Kung di ko pa alam pag halos mamatay ka na sa problema mo, kay Poong Nazareno, Padre Pio, St. jude, sta. Clara ka rin pumupunta para humingi ng tulong sa DIYOS! Ipokrito ka teh

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    8. 12:33 Baks yung mga binanggit mo hindi Diyos.

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  6. Hanggang magunaw yata ang mundo madami pa rin siguro ang hindi makakatanggap ng same sex marriage. Realidad yan at wala na tayong magagawa dyan.

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    1. no, it's not reality. if the African-Americans just accepted the 'reality' of them being slaves, they'll still be slaves up to now. they have to fight for their rights in order for non-African Americans to accept the reality that no one is meant to be a slave. it's the same case for lgbt. the reality is that they prefer same-sex, so they have to fight for their rights. it's only those close-minded people who cannot and will not accept this fact.

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    2. 3.25 reality is derived from views and culture while ang pagiging slaves ay isang status ng isang tao lang. Maaaring slaves ka ngayon, bukas hindi. So hindi sila pareho. So, yong pagiging close-minded ng ilang tao ay nakabase sa kinalakihang kultura at sa pagiging uncommon ng pag-aasawa ng dalawang babae. So since hindi nila kayang ibahin ang isipan/pananaw ng ibang tao, they have to suck it up. 'Yun ang ibig sabihin ni 12.52

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    3. 3:25, africans-american though no longer slaves still experience discrimination here and there. maybe not as brutal but its still going around ... unfortunately a sad reality. so, i agree with 12:52. unti unti man matatanggap rin ng society ang LGBT, but not entirely.

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    4. Tanggapin nyo na rin kasi that man is for a woman and vice versa. ANATOMY PA LANG NGA TEH...ALAM NA

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  7. I think they would make a great parent. Its like having a mom that would shower her offsprings with love and care times two. Swerte nung bata if ever
    Shed grow up in a household she is sure to be basking in motherly care. #justsaying

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    1. Children need both a mother and a father figure.

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    2. pano sa school kung ibully sya? pano sa kapitbahay na pinaguusapan sila? Swerte ba un?

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    3. pano sa school kung ibully sya? pano sa kapitbahay na pinaguusapan sila? Swerte ba un?

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    4. I don't see how they can raise a child normally. How can you explain that to a young person that you have two dads or two moms? When the norm is this and that.

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    5. We dont live in a time when cases like this are considered deviant. I think culture is not implemented to us but we create, hone, mold,and change it. Saying that a person who didnt grow up in the conventional upbringing is less likely to become a better individual is mere prejudicial and an evidence of narrow mindedness. This couple is paving their own path to raising a child far from the usual childrearing norm the previous generations have came to know just like any another unconventional (so to speak) couples out there.

      Bullying is another case. A child may still be bullied regardless if he/she has been raised by his/her mom and dad. A bully, in other words, would always have something to pick upon a person that he/she will make its object of mockery and ridicule.

      In short, when a person say that they wouldnt be effective parents simply because their "gay" only shows how repressive and narrow ones thinking is. I say thats #bigotryatitsfinest

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  8. Marami sa rappler yang ganyang klase ng comments. Hindi lang sa rappler pati sa yahoo. Hindi mo na nga maintindihan kung bakit sila ganyan. At bakit sila nagkaganyan. Pero hindi naman lahat ng comments nanggagaling sa usapin ng religion, marami lang talagang mga taong hindi mo malaman kung saan naggagaling ang kawalanghiyaan.

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    1. at marami din dun kung magmalines wagas!

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  9. respeto din sa mga ayaw ng ganyang set up gaya ninyo. Respect both sides. Kung tanggap nyo na ganyan kayo, dapat tanggap nyo rin na may mga ayaw sa ganyan and tahts their rights to be disgusted, same thing both of you are disgusted seeing u around with men.

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    1. like I said, lahat tayo may kanya-kanyang prinsipyo pag dating sa beliefs natin. Pero kung nagsasalita ka na ng hindi maganda, nangungutya at nambabastos ng kapwa, thats crossing the line. i dont share the same opinion of those who think same sex marriage is immoral but i will not resort to cursing them and telling them they will burn in hell bec of their bigotry. That is RESPECT.

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    2. what makes you think they are disgusted to be seen with men? all they ask is to be respected for their choice to love who they want. there is no such thing as having 'rights to be disgusted'. all of us are equal, and should be treated fairly and equally, without any condition.

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  10. not to be rude, i respect lesbians and all but why does dino refer to seguerra using male pronouns?

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    1. Because aiza is not a lesbian. He is a transgender man. He identifies himself as male...hence the male
      pronouns.

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    2. Sadly, kahit anong gawin nya babae pa rin ang DNA nya.

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    3. has aiza undergone the procedure? hindi pa diba? so there. The pronoun SHE should still be used

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    4. Wrong! AIza is not a lesbian nor a transgender she is a Woman. Balik baliktarin mo Ang Mundo Ang katawan niya babae parin siya...

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    5. These LGBT community thinks that their partners will stand by them till they are old. They are dillusional.They screw a lot of people behind their partners coz this kind of behavior is not normal. any Filipino LGBT couples in their 80s, please stand up!

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  11. Do whatever makes you happy. Kebs sa mga basher. At the end of the day kayo pa rin ni aiza magkasama.

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    1. Magpayaman kayo. FACT: These bible thumpers will change their tune as soon as they think they have a chance to get their hands on your cash. With money you will need to deal less with undesirables and do whatever you want.

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  12. Hala ka! Tomboy ba si aiza seguerra? Eh sumali pa sya sa little ms. Philippines dati ah? Diba?

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    1. Ipepetition kong bawiin ung first runner up title ni aiza sa little miss phils dahil mr pala sya!

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    2. bakla tumira kb s ilalim ng lupa ng mahabang panahon??? hahahaha

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  13. Hi Liza bakit idinamay mo pa Ang religion? Hinde naman lahat Ng religious people are discrimating you and AIza.. As a Catholic marriage is between a man and a woman and that's it. hinde Na yun mag babago Sa isip ko. Kaya you should respect us too.. If yan gusto niyo go do it no one is stopping you. Meron Na Meron pa rin kikilatisin Sa inyo Ng Asawa kayo dito Sa Pilipinas .. Ayaw niyo gulo or discrimination go to America where it's legal...

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    1. I live in America and despite LGBT malerky became a spread virus courtesy of libertads, truth of the matter is "this is not accepted in most part of USA. Do your research people. LGBT community could label people like me as homophobic or what ever word they can come up with- we don't care! We fear GOD and we love people but doesn't mean we have to swallow their evil.

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    2. Teh, baka she wasn't referring to you..

      "kasama ng mga self righteous na may mga baong bible quotations"

      Self-righteous ka ba?

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    3. RELIGION is the main cause of MISUNDERSTANDINGS.

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    4. I agree with 5:08. I live in a conservative state in the United States, I don't want to be associated by them because I believe marriage is specifically for a man and a woman. A person who would call me a homophobic would have to challenge a whole demographic of conservative americans and Filipinos who are fed up with these people who think they can bring up children normally! And also the delusion that their partners will be there for them till they are on wheelchairs. There are homes exclusive for the LGBT who are alone and relatives don't give a fuss about them. It is still taboo. Please do not force us to understand! We chose not to understand and stop bothering us, leave us alone and go on with your lives on pursuing a futile action of making this world a better place! People are prejudiced by nature, its our genetic build up. Stop giving us sob stories about how terrible it is growing up unacceptable
      In life! Everybody has their own problems and challenges.

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  14. Girl naman dati yang Lisa Na yan dahil May anak pa nga sya eh tas naging si Aiza Na Ang jowa suddenly. Akala Ko ba in born Ang pagiging lesbian or gay. I'm not a hater nagta tanong Lang.

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    1. Nakakaloka ka ate. Madaming factors kung bakit late nag a out ang mga LGBT. Malamang dati confused pa si Liza sa sexuality nya or other reasons like takot ma stigma, ma discriminate etc. Di po standard protocol ng LGBT na dapat pag nilabas ka sa mundong to alam mo na kung ano ka. Gaya nalang ni Caitlyn Jenner. Tanda na nya nag out, nagka anak pa sya ng 2 bago nya na figure out kung ano talaga sya.

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  15. OMG... HIS talaga when referring to Aiza! Cringe-worthy... #$^%&&ZZZZZ*^&(*)ZZZ

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    1. DUH. KASI TRANSMALE SIYA.

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    2. @2:05 DUH! Shunga ka teh? Transmale pinag sasasabi mo eh babae yang si Aiza kahit kabitan pa ng et-et yan. Kalurkey tlga nga reasoning nitong sabi ng sabi na transmale daw si Aiza at di babae.

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  16. This is not about religion, Ms. Dino. This is about that set of values and principles that our society holds. You wanted us to accept and respect your marriage? Your union or togetherness, sure. But marriage? Unfortunately, that's not easy to accept. True, you are capable of loving just like anybody else but you both can't fulfill the specific primary purpose of marriage which is to perpetuate the human race. So you want to have a child but have you thought for a second that you are validating and perpetuating homosexuality while raising him/her? Is this what you want most of us to accept and respect? Sorry, Ms. Dino. I respect everyone from the LGBT community but there are relationships rooted in human nature that are universal and immutable. The more you force acceptance of a moral wrong as if it's a civil right, the more it becomes offensive. Please respect our opinion as well.

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  17. They themselves invite criticism. Like sinabi ni liza, "hangarin namin mamuhay ng normal tulad ng iba."

    They can never be a "normal" couple or a "normal" family. They must accept that. And may be in time, people will learn to accept their non-traditional set-up.

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    1. It took 400 hundred years for black people to assimilate in the US and these LGBT expect us to swallow everything up in one sitting. This is delusional.

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  18. agree with you 1:46 am

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  19. Dapat low profile lang kasi kayo ateh. Wag super garapal. alam nyo naman na hindi pa tanggap ng 100% yan dito. Kahit ako, hindi maatim na tanggapin yan, hindi na lang ako mag comment. Pero wag na din kayo masyado pa high profile at lahat ng update eh ibigay sa public. Keep some to yourselves dear.

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  20. If for you theres nothing wrong with your set up well others cant help but think otherwise. Not because of religion but bcos that is what we are all born with..there is only male and female. No matter how badly you want to change it you still have in your body what you are born with. There is really no way you can alter it except by your minds. So stop twisting truth with your own illusions. This is the absolute truth. If you want us to broaden our views please start within yourselves and stick more to reality and not your own reality brought by your selfish desires. Stop getting people on your side as this is a case that needs no argument. If you turn out gay then accept it but don't fool yourselves you can turn into a real man or woman as you can never be...this is where you start disrespecting human intellect and the reason you draw flake.

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  21. Oh, god! This shows how stupid a lot of Filipinos are...

    People in the country don't even know the difference when it comes to homosexuality and transexuality..

    Being a trans male is, being born in a woman's body, but the person identifies as a he
    Being a lesbian is, being in a woman's body, but the person identifies as a she and likes the same sex at the same time.

    It just shows here that most people here are illiterate and just here for the chismis. Oh dear. . .

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    1. Cool ka lang at wag masyadong judgmental. Bagong pauso lang naman yang mga terms na yan. Some years ago wala namang mga distinction na ganyan. At pagkausapin mo ang mga tomboy sa mga poor communities, di naman nila idi-distinguish yung sarili nila na kesyo 'transmale ako', 'ako lesbian', etc.

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