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Thursday, July 16, 2015

Tweet Scoop: Rachelle Ann Go Agrees with Lea Salonga on the Effects of Autotune in the Music Industry

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  1. naging accepted na kasi sya. gone are the days na boses talaga ang puhunan para maging singer

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    1. Kahit sinong lehitimong singer mabibwisit sa naglipanang mga pekeng singer.. Mga boses kokak na binaback apan ng network para manloko.. Nakow napanood ko concert ni Anne sa TV.. Naapreciate ko bigla si Sarah.. Hindi mabubura ng aesthetics ang kawalang boses ng performer sa isang concert.. Parang nanaloloko lang

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    2. Totally agree. Wag naman sana utuin ang mga fans sa malakokak nilang boses dahil lang sa pera. Kakahiya 'tong mga 'to. All because of moolah talaga. Tsk tsk.

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    3. True! Unfair sa mga totoong singers! We cry foul to producers who give concerts to non.singers. Please help instead yung mga may talent na naghihintay lang break. Let.s help the true singers!!!

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    4. dahil sa mga kagaya mo 12:15 na fantard. bibili ka ba ng album na alam mong daya lang?

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    5. ABS takes advantage of their Stars' popularity by marketing and letting them sing. Di rin kasalanan ng non singers. Root cause is the company wants to maximize their profit by marketing and selling anything through these popular stars even at the expense of the craft and eventually the OPM industry as we see it now. The public buys not because of the singing but because they want to support their idols at masa bing Siikat at versatile ang idol nila.

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    6. Gustohin man ng mga producers na gawan ng concert or album ang mga legit singer but still the question is kikita ba sila ng malaki?kasi syempre yun talaga yung target nila since yun ang business nila.Kung hindi kita ang gusto nila for sure maraming concert na gagawin para sa mga singers kaya at the end of the day, its all about the money, money, money pa rin.

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  2. Just live with it na lang mga mamah. Parang PHOTOSHOP lang yan - masking who actually has beauty and who doesnt

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  3. Coz they are both legit music icon. May K talaga.

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    1. Lahat ng may boses talaga e may K magreact! Kasi nakakairita at nakakainsulto naman talaga kung mas may buyers yung wala namang talent.

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  4. Hindi rin. Alam naman ng tao kung sino ang mga legit singers. It just so happens that these legit singers are not adapting to what is IN at the moment - slickly produced (or overproduced) music, think kpop. Hindi na nagbago ang style nila, puro ballads or revival ng classic ballads. Even Cher used autotune sa mga recent albums niya, at iniba niya ang style niya, kaya naghit. These legit singers shouldn't blame autotune or the consumers for their dwindling sales. Instead, they should experiment with different styles, genres, and technology, autotune included.

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    1. I appreciate KPop artists like EXO primarily because of the techniques and digital instruments employed. They may not have the best vocals pero hanep ang arrangements, dance routines, and music videos. Look for their songs OVERDOSE, HISTORY, WOLF, and GROWL. Hanep. I also patronize Hale, MYMP, and Bamboo before.

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    2. Sa KPOP naman, you see na nag eeffort talaga sila. They rehearse, live together para magkabond ang group and show their fans that they try really really hard. Kaya kahit d gaano maganda vocals, kahit d mo magets pinagsasabi nila, support parin.

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    3. 10 years in the making naman ang KPOP artists. Di man magaling lahat kumanta, at least man lang, sa ibang skill like dancing honed sila.

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    4. I hate kpop before. pero di ko aakalain na mggng fan ako. mtgal sila magprepare bago mag comeback at ilang yrs naman nagttrain para magdebut. look at the music videos effort talaga..

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    5. Anon 708 actually, 3.5years ang average but training can take a year to 7 years depending on the trainees' raw talent and targeted market, genre & trends. HOWEVER, they have so much respect for their KPop industry. That's why they work so hard prior to debut. Talent and musicality mean so much to them on top of looks. They do not welcome mediocrity as their biggest agencies claim it (SM, YG & JYP). Their actors & actresses who can sing participate in musicals and sing on-screen. BUT, they do not do album releases as they respect that it's the KPop artists' core and forte. I think its delikadesa in Filipino. And respect for the art and the people who deserve. They also put budgets for indie artists. And they do hard core musical experiments. From this, we can say by comparison na relatively tamad and industry natin because producers do it the easier way by taking advantage of big stars' bankability and reach via different platforms. Plus major local record labels are owned by major broadcast stations which further favors their motives. So many factors but I can only share these. -Pinoy based in Seoul

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  5. Yes you can say that now because you have the perfect voice now but once you get older your vocal strings will thank that auto-tune for making you sound as 'perfect' as when you're at your prime.

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    1. Listen to Lani Misalucha. At her age, maganda pa rin timbre ng boses niya. Nasa disiplina kasi yan eh.

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    2. yes, disiplina at pag-aalaga..yung iba kasing singers maraming bisyo like alak, sigarilyo at drugs, sabayan pa ng pagkain ng mga bawal para sa vocals nila so expected talaga na mawawala ang timbre nila as time goes by.

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  6. Truelaley naman. Not only with regard to OPM but the music industry in all other countries as well.

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  7. Yupp. Ang autotune ang botox sa music industry. Cover up lang.

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    1. uyyy may kilala ako nyan, retoke na nga fez, retoke pa boses!

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    2. It can also be used for enhancement/effects. Nothing wrong with it if used properly and sparingly, and not to mask a lack of singing talent.

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    3. Medyo type ko ang EXO despite their SLIGHT autotune and expensive albums. They don't sing live lagi because of screaming fans and intensive dance routines. But when they do, they really sound good in variety shows. I used to buy albums of Hale and MYMP, kumpleto pa. One thing I noticed, Korea knows how to promote their singers via variety shows. Psychologically kasi, the appearances of their singers on variety shows allow you to understand them kahit konti. That's the reason why PBB is used as medium for entry to local showbiz. Variety shows creates more following. I don't think mall shows are enough to promote albums. That's why, mas bankable ang non-singer artistas because of their frequent/huge exposure via various platforms.

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  8. Kesehodang me auto-tune o wla, Bibili at bibili pa rin ng mga Tao kung sino ang gusto nila. Ke legit singer or pseudo singer!





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  9. Sad but true. Pero wala tayong magagawa. Business is business at maraming jejemon sa Pilipinas na tumatangkilik sa sikat kahit wala namang talent sa pagkanta. Kaya kung magnenegosyo ka, i-market mo ang jejemon kung gusto mag-boom ang business mo. hahaha!

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  10. Kawawa naman kasi silang nagpapakapagod magpractice kakakanta tapos sasapawan lang sila ng basta nalang na sikat dyan. Nasaan ang hustisya! Lol

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  11. sawsaw na naman. dumarami ang mga sawsawera dito!

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    1. At marami rin ang butthurt like you. Kung ang sumagot tulad mong walang reliable track record, now that's sawsawera!

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    2. ikaw din nakikisawsaw!!!

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    3. Te! Lea was asking "singers' opinion" in that tweet. Rachelle is a singer and so she answered. Anong sawsaw dun? Pakibasa nga ulit bago magreact ng matindi? Kaloka ka!

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    4. You'll never know the feeling and where they are coming from cause you're not one of them. You're just one of those non-singers tards who buy their trashy music just because they have a face that pleases your taste.

      Its a bitter pill to swallow the fact that the OPM industry survives because of the non-singers who masked their voices but the QUALITY OF AN OPM MUSIC, MATAGAL NG PATAY!

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    5. Pag may opinion sawsawera na agad?! Di ba pwedeng sinasalba lang and music industry? Nagkakalat ang mga fake singer sa pilipinas ngayon.

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    6. That includes you...

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    7. At the end of the day its the consumers money...they will buy what they want. Its their right. Singers need to do something to stand out. Bakit nung pumasok ba sa acting ang mga singers may mga nagsipag ganyan bang actors?

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    8. manahimik na lang kaya sa UK. si sarah nga walang sey ito talagang sawsawera!

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    9. May point ka...ang mga actors hindi nagdamot. Singers have to up their gamr, commerce eh

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    10. syempre si Sarah taga ABS na syang nagpapakanta ng mga hindi legit singers :) anon 2:53am

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  12. Yabang ni ate rachel...kayo n matataas ang boses n di n kailangan ng auto tune. Kasawa n din kasi ung birit ng birit at the end boring na. Kaya ung iba naeenjoy na yung walang boses pero ngbibigay namn ng saya sa audience..

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    1. Ateng may tama ka! Hindi all marunong kumanta pero nakakaaliw ang mga nonsingers at mga novelty songs kase nasasabayan ko

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  13. If yeng constantino will be singing my favorite loveteam's movie soundtracks, i wouldn't be as excited to buy the album. But then again, James and Nadine can actually sing naman. Though their songs on their albums has had enhancements with the help of tech, still they can sing the songs live without problems. But yung autotune talaga sa taong sintonado at mejo nakakag*g*.

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    1. Agree. JaDine can sing live and okay sila minsan. Need ng workshop para ma-perfect pero they can sing and it shows pag pinag-a-acapella sila bigla. Pero yung iba naman kasing may album, walang talagang chance. Kahit mag-acapella, wala talaga sa tono.

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    2. Yeah. Kailangan pa ng Jadine ng practice most especially they can sing and dance. I remember Sarah G. when she was singing and dancing Sa Iyo nung baguhan pa lang siya. Nagthethank you siya sa back-up singers kasi nawawala yung boses niya while dancing. But look at her na.

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    3. dinamay pa talaga si yeng tsk

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    4. Anon 7:02 Yeng is mentioned here coz she is one of the many good singers in our country. Hindi para ibash. But to stress a point that people will be patrinizing their idols more kahit pa may mas magaling pa sa kanila.

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  14. @12:48 question for singers teh..sumagot lng din po ang legit singer...tenk tenk muna sa SAWSAWERA na word

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    1. she should have shut her mouth up! lumalangoy kasi si ateh sa baso ngayon. wag ka sanang malunod sa konting success mo rachel ha!

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  15. Autotune or not bottom line is its beyond their control kung ano ang gustong bilhin ng mga fans. Magngangawa kayo dyan, sisihin nyo mga sintunado, pakiusapan ang mga fans na wag tangkilikin ang mga non-singers na gumagawa ng album sa bandang huli nasa fans pa rin ang desisyon kung ano ang gusto at di nila gustong bilhin

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  16. Tell that to the multi-million dollar KPop industry and other hollywood artists like Kesha and Ellie Goulding. Also to DJs and Mixers like David Guetta. Why don't we just have to accept the fact that people's taste in everything, including music, could change? If music doesn't revolve, we might as well still be listening to Beethoven's music. Enough of this. There's an era for everything.

    We just have to move forward and accept that this is not an ideal world. I do not hate legit singers. As a matter of fact, I'm a big fan of Sarah G. Do not tell me that I'm only having this opinion because my idol is still selling well despite the competition. And no, I wasn't bragging. I was only stating a fact. All I'm saying is, if Sarah, who can sing live, can produce an album that can meet the taste of today's generation, why can't the other singers? Why can't they get out of their comfort zone? Why can't they produce upbeat music which is today's current trend.

    You cannot expect people to meet your standards all the time. Actually, as public entertainers, you have to be ,ore public pleasers. It's the nature of your job. And it is also just natural for us, public, to support what is popular. A pity, I know. But what can you do? An endless rant won't kill the mangrove old system of show business.

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    1. I agree with you. I patronize KPop but tbh, majority of them can sing live and so close to their autotuned releases. What amazes me is that beyond pretty faces and fantastic MVs, majority of their artists plays different instruments and speaks different languages. You can really understand how hard they work before debut. Their industry is very experimental as well.

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    2. TRUE. kung maka agree sila kay rhap at lea akala mo bumibili talaga sila ng opm album

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    3. eto lang yun, sa mga legit singers na di bumebenta-----HARDWORK pa.. mapplease niyo din ang madla. Try something NEW.

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  17. Autotune is a worldwide issue in recorded music.

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  18. In an alternate universe, you can complain and be given justice. In the real world, you can only do so much as you cannot really fight against the the industry movers. You can never win. After all, there are still legit artists right there who can compete in this chaos like Sarah G., Yeng, and Charice.

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  19. Ou nga teh, sumagot lang naman yung singer na pag bumirit e di ni alam pano maibaba , makasigaw lang, ang tigas pa ng boses na galing ilong

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    1. Yet another nonsense comment from guada. Clap clap clap.

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    2. teh nasa broadway na siya ngayon pero ikaw hanggang ngayon bitter ka pa rin sa likod ng computer pwe! lels

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  20. The butthurt from lipsynchers and vocoder fantards is strong.

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  21. Ateng yung sawsawera po eh yung nagbibigay nag opinyon kahit hindi hinihingi.St pid.tagalog word na nga Di Paola knows ang meaning.Bili ka ng Tagalog dictionary neng.

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    1. 2:27am bakit teh compelled ba si rachel na sumagot? bakit yong ibang singers ala lang? pansin mo bang siya lang ang sumagot huh o bulagbulgan ang peg?

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    2. ateng ang sawsawera ay yong kahit hindi naman siya porto por ponto ang tinatanong pero siya ang sumagot. may iba bang singers ang nagtangka man lang kumibot sa tanong ni lea? eh kung magtanong kaya ako sino ba dito ang bumili ng album ni rhap? pag may sumagot matatawa talaga ako ng million million!

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  22. Ang nageexist nalang na singers ngayon talaga na bumebenta album e si sarah and yeng... Yung iba... Wala na talaga.

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  23. i spare lea salongga and rhap salazar for my comments dahil nasa wcopa ngayon si rhap, and i support philippines in any competetion.

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  24. Gooooow mga teh magtulungan nyo silang lahat, lol. It's about time though!

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  25. Who cares?! Kung sino magpasaya sa akin dun ako. Aminado naman kase sila na di sila mga singers kundi entertainers or performers. Kung singer ka at may hatak ka sa akin I will patronize you too.

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  26. I bought the album because of the mere reason na I'm entertained by the artist and I enjoy their music. Kanya kanya pong kaligayahan yan. Yung mag magagaling wag na magmagaling. Ganyan po talaga ang life. Kahit mega talent ka pag wala kang charisma mas aangat talaga yung less of a singer than you.

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    1. Sana din kasi kung magaling kumanta eh may iba ding paandar like magaling sumayaw, nakakatawa, may hatak ang personality od i kaya gwapo o maganda. yun lang yun. Look at SG, Julie Anne, Gary V and Yeng. Ang magrreact lang talaga yung singer na boring at wala ng ibang kayang ibigay sa audience.

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  27. edi magproduce sila ng albums ng mga singers.

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  28. Minsan naman kase ang sakit naman talaga sa tenga lalo na pag naglalive sila sa asap parang umaatungal na mga baka at kambing ang mga boses. Lokohan nga tapos magrereciv ng platinum award enebeyen! Pag kasunod ngang kumakanta yung true singer mapapasalamat at makakarelax ka. Nakakabwisit na sa totoo lang.

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  29. Di sarah g nag aauto tune din

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  30. Eto din kasi....most legit singers were given songs to sing that will showcase their singing prowess, their strong vouces BUT those songs are so hard to listen. Get the trend kasi. Take Boom Clap, Flashlight, etc.

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  31. Notorious non-singer na boses palaka si Kim Chiu. Di nya ako hater, in fact I really like this girl, but by George!! Sobrang out of tune. Tili pa ng Tili sa ASAP. Sunod dyan si Alexgonzaga then si Kathryn. Ugh!

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  32. nakikiride wala n kasi career dito

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  33. Kung walang producer na magpo-produce, eh di walang basurang album. Kahit gaano karaming fans, nasa producer pa rin ang last say. Kaya sisihin ang mga mukhang perang producer!. Mas mabuti nang walang album kesa OPM na puro sintunado at pangit ang boses ang kumakanta. Nakakahiya!!!

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  34. Ke autotune o hindi, basta magandang pakinggan yung kanta at nakapagpapasaya ng maraming tao, yun ang mas importante...Bumawi na lang yung mga 'real' singers sa mga awards. O gumawa sila ng kanta na mas tatangkilikin ng masa.

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  35. may k siyang sagutin yung tanong ni lea dahil laging live kung kumanta si rachelle hate niyan ang autotune ...ibang singers no comment kasi karamihan sa kanila pa-safe at gumagamit din ng autotune at nag-lipsync din

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  36. feeling entitled na to si ilong

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    1. bitter ka te?bka ikaw any feeling..sya nga yung npaka down to earth .khit mga pinoy sa London approachable sya.wag assuming.

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  37. mali naman kasi prespective ng mga legit singers. hindi naman tlaga specifically ung "music" ng non singers ang binibili ng mga fans. it's more of anything from their idol, mapa notebook, ballpen, pabango, at ngaun may app pa. wag silang mabitter because sales or quantity is different from quality, and ung later never maaachive ng non sinngers

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  38. Funny, ngayon lang magrereklamo about sa mga non-singers na nag lilipsync? Ilang dekada na ba merong ganyan? Panahon pa ni Nora and Vilma yan.
    Bakit napupunta ang blame sa mga artistang to at sa mga consumers nila.
    Ang sa tingin kong malaking problema ay sa mga mismong 'singers' na to. Sasali sa mga singing contests tapos pagnanalo mag e-expect agad na tatangkilikin ng mga tao ang mga albums nila na ang laman ay 10 out of 12 songs ay revivals? Isang original song pero sa isang taon 3 artists ang may kanya kanyang version na ilalabas nila? Ano kami, engot? Bakit ko bibilhin yan? Bakit ako makikinik sa isang song ng paulit ulit na nirerelease na may konting pinagkaiba lang sa original?

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  39. Yung mga comments ng iba sobrang babaw. Ang punto eh pag ganyan ng ganyan, aba eh lahat na lang ng artista na me mga T....GA na fans na tagabili ng basura, eh babagsak ang music industry. Free for all ika nga. Matira ang matapang ang apog. Wala bang regulations sa music industry gaya ng MTCRB na regulate ang movie & TV. Yung OPM ni Ogie, ano ang papel. Basta lang kantahan walang quality control. Kawawa ang legit singers na nilalangaw gayong magagaling naman sila. Kung ganyan ng ganyan eh mag karaoke na lang lahat at yung nakakasuya bahala na publiko kung ano ang gusto nilang gawin. Walang control eh, sige sige lang.

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    1. teh babaan nila ang presyo ng CD nila at ng bumenta sila. at si rhap magparetoke siya. nakaksuka ang album niyang ilagay sa mga set of albums ko. PWE!

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  40. Di naman masisi ang celebrity kung pangarap o kelangan nya dagdag na raker para sa career niya. Di rin kasalanan ng producers kasi yun ang may fans ba willing bumili ng album. Album ng legit singers di naman sinusuportahan dahil asa sa pirata ang audience.

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  41. madonna is not really a good singer, but her music is done very well. can we say the same for what kathryn or kim chui put out there? i don't think so. but yes, to each his own tayo. we are all free to buy what we want with our own money. it's just really, really, sad that filipinos seem to have deteriorated as consumers. it's the very same way our leaders were elected. "di bale nang corrupt, may birthday cake naman tayo every year". "di bale nang pangit ang boses, kinikilig naman ako." sad.

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  42. Sa dami ng komento tungkol dyan sa paggamit ng autotune, legit man o hindi ang singer, bottomline bumebenta para ma-awardan pa.

    curious din talaga ako malaman kung lahat ba ng mga gold at platinum awards na pinagbibigay sa mga celebrities na yan eh legit din ba talaga? kasi lagi ako nanunuod ng sunday variety show kung saan duon madalas pino-promote o nilo-launch ang kung anuman ang pinagkakaabalahan ng artista. pero kagulat-gulat ang mga nagpa-platinum o gold awardees na hindi man lang umalingasngas ang album, una sa nasabing show, at sa iba pang platforms gaya ng spotify, itunes, youtube, pati sa MYX at maging sa radyo. di kaya style lang din yun para dun palang umingay ang album? tapos yung pumakyaw ng album, ipamimigay lang din yan sa mga tours o caravan, sa trade events o kaya sa mga listeners.

    at batid ko yung ibang artista sumusunod lang din yan sa gusto ng network at ng talent management nila kasi syempre pera-pera naman din lahat yan. pag bumenta may bonus na nga, nasusundan pa ang album. :)

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  43. Dapat kasin yung mga non singers mismo ang may delikadesang umayaw. Pero gustong yumaman e

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  44. sino kayang next singer ang mag rereact para pag usapan.

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  45. LEA and RACHELLE ANN, parehong may "K" to react on this. and I agree wd anon 6:10 above, DELICADEZA nalang sana para sa mga non-singers. eh ako nga i tried to record my voice singing. when i listened to it kinilabutan ako sa hiya. hahahahha

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  46. retokada naman ang mukha ni Rachelle kaya wala rin syang pinag iba sa kanila peke rin sya

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