OA makasabi ng tao naman sila, bakit sinabi bang di kayo tao? Di naman kayo pinagbawalan huminga o kumain. Di naman kayo tinanggalan ng karapatan! Kung di kayo pwde pumasok eh di lumipat kayo ng ibang bar. Simpleng issue pinapalaki..
Kung sasabihin ko sa inyong hipon ako dahil natanggap ko na sa sarili ko na hipon ako, ganun nalang changing the fact na tao ako? Tsaka hindi right ang entrance to any establishment, feeling entitled lang talaga minsan.
Anong di tinanggalan ng karapatan? Eh di nga sila pinapasok sa valk eh. Doon palang tinanggalan na sila ng karapatan magparty dahil nga crossdressers sila. Ang mga straight na tao, hirap intindihin ang lgbt community, umaarte lang daw kami at masyadong sensitive pero once na maranasan nyo ung gantong bagay, tignan natin kung makapagsalita ka pa ng ganyan.
Anon 838, hindi ka hipon. Lumot ka, lumot! Haha. But kidding aside, kahit pa hipon iniinsist mong perception sayo ng iba, tao ka! Kaya wag kang delusional! Tao ka, hindi ka hipon.
956: tinanggalan ng karapatan magparty?? Nagwawala kayo dahil dian? Omg. Hindi lang valkyrie ang bar sa pilipinas, dun kayo magparty kung saan mas lenient ang policy
Precisely the point anon 536. Sayo na rin nanggaling, parang delusional diba Pero pag ang bakla nagsabi: hindi ako bakla, babae ako Pano na, tanggapin na lang natin? Kalimutan na lang natin ang biology, kasi sabi nia eh
9:56. Hindi sila tinanggalan ng karapatan magparty! Magparty siLa hanggat gusto nila pero hindi karapatan ang ipilit ang sarili nila sa isang prinadong lugar na may sariling rules and regulations. Nakakaloka kayo. Human right ba ang pumasok sa private club? Hindi po.
I'm gay pero open minded ako , Kung yun yung rules ng owner I respect natin yun kasi property Nila yun eh , it's like you own a house and u don't allowed a certain people to come in .. Gets ? its your property you can set a rules and regulations same thing with resort they don't allow guest to swim with their MAONG PANTS .. Gets ?
tama ka diyan 3.29. dapat nga tayong mga hetero maging sensitive sa mga sinasabi nilang babae sila dahil hindi naman talaga! dapat magbigay sila ng respect by not saying na babae sila!
Akala ko nga magtatransform as alien yung transbakla sa sobrang nginig sa galit kanina! Hindi pa siya makapagsalita sa #AllKrisSometimesAllAbundaTonite
Oa ng LGBT ngayon mga feeling api. If I know yung iba dyan nagrereact pero di naman nag ppuntang Valkyrie. Anyways, ang oa talaga! Di naman LGBT ang pinagbabawal eh diba? Malamang pwede kayo duon, ang hindi pwede ay ang CROSSDRESSING. Paki intindi. Feel kasi ng iba pinagbabawalan silang maging bakla eh. Tutal pa cool naman kayo at gusto nyong mag Valk, edi sumunod kayo sa rules. Tanggapan. Gusto nyo yan eh. Tsaka pwede ba, cross dressing is so indecent.
Ang point naman kasi,bakt hndi sya pinapasok? Kasi halatang gay sya? Pero yung ibang gay/cross dresser pinapasok kasi mas malakas sa may ari? Meron nga discrimination na ngyayari. Ngayon kung ang rules nila eh ke cross dresser ka/gay/tibo/lalake/babae etc. at ayaw nila for a reason na ayaw lang nila. Wala tayong magagawa. Rules nila yun eh. Maghanap nalang tayo ng ibang bar.. Or better yet magtayo tayo ng bar, first come first serve/or by vip/appointment.
Respect other's rules. Hindi kayo dinidiscriminate. Unang una, private naman yon so may right silang gawin kung anong gusto nilang gawin. 2nd, its a high end bar. Kubg gustong magpunta sa high end, matutong mag comply. Cheap tignan ng cross dressing dahil lalaki ka tapos magsusuot ka ng pang babae? Tapos magagalit sa rules ng isang bar?
Sana hindi na nila ininterview. Parang ayaw naman nilang pagsalitain eh. Hapit na hapit sa airtime. Kailangan rapper mode makipag-usap yung interviewee para lang makabuo ng statement. Kalurkey!
Oa nitong bading na to!delusional tong mga lalakeng to na ngke-claim na babae sila...gays i can understand and respect but these transgenders boggle my mind...self proclaimed woman,i mean they were born with d*cks,why cant they just be gay/homosexual bakit kailangan sabihin babae sila when their made up of xx chromosomes,they can't give birth so basically lalake sila na may pusong babae Hindi sila babae...
Gusto ko suntukin bunganga ni boy abunda na siya na lagi ang nagsasalita. Ratatat, nonstop, daldakita. But at the end of the interview, minahal ko si boy for his stand. But with kris aquino... Whats so funny kung sinabi ni veejay that shes a woman?! Whats so funny about that! Were talking abt the discrmination and rights of our sisters from the lgbt community, respeto sa guest mo! Again KRIS AQUINO, whats so funny?! Eh mas desente pa yang mga yan kesa sayo!
Akala ko ako lang nakapansin how rude kris Aquino was for laughing after veejay said that. Rude!!! And really Boy? Valkyrie management acted quick?? Really? This was not the first time! Happened a while back hello, the only reason they are actually doing something about it now is because it's become a very big issue in social media! Baka nga Kung Hindi eh dedma parin!
Napansin niyo din ung ginawang pagtawa ni kris pagkasabi ni Veejay na "babae siya"... Ako, I'm a straight woman and a Christian. Pero still everyone's not perfect or sinner and wala ako sa position na manghusga ng kapwa. And I find what kris did (laughed) rude pati ung walang preno sa salita ni boy, di nakapagsalita ung guest, nagpa-guest pa sila kung sila lang lagi magsasalita. And kung ako papapipiliin, mas pipiliin ko na si Veejay kasi disente siya magsalita, may breeding, unlike sa 2 un! Just my 2 cents.
Ang arte lang ninyo talaga. Mas pinag bbigyan lalong nagkaka sungay. Kelan naging babae ang taong pinanganak na lalaki? Tigilan ang denial. Kayo ang may problema. Aasta kayong kakaiba, pag nabati ayaw ninyo. Gusto nyo mag cross dressing do so. Huwag kayong papansin, kung ayaw nyong mapansin din. This rule goes to every gender in society. Behave!
nakakatawa naman kasi, ang sabi ni veejay ang transgender hindi Bakla, eh pano ung mga walang pangretoke and pangpalit ng kasarian sa documents, Bakla nalang?
so pag may pera, transgender = female? pag wala = bakla = bakla?
Hindi daw siya bakla. Transgender daw. Eh iisa lang ibig sabihin non. Ano na ba pinagkaiba non, iyong transgender nagoodbye na sa manoy niya? Nakakaloka
Itong si @1:31 paintellectual pang bakla eh! Alam ng lahat na lalaki ito tulad ng ibang mga bakla! If a person identify themselves as a fish eh accept lang tayo? if a person identifies as a tree accept lang din? If a person identifies himself as a moon accept lang? Pag mga ganito we call it fantasy and me sa**d pero pag girl ang identification ng isang man sa sarili niya e reality and respect?! what stupidity!
Yeah 1:31 respect regardless of gender she was born with. And where do you place respect for God and His work in that phrase? Ang hirap satin binigay na ng Diyos ung pagtanggap, ngayon pati ung role naman Niya gusto parin natin kunin. And please wag moko sabihan ng Banal at Ipokrito for this, those words should never be said side by side.
1:31 She identified herself as a woman, and you actually believed on that?!?! So pagsinabi sayo ng tatay mo na babae siya o ng nanay mo na isa syang sala set eh tanggap mo agad! God this world is starting to be ridiculous!
Veejay hindi mo agad agad makukulta sa isip ng lahat ng pinoy yang mga pinagsasasabi mong "pinanganak kang may kasariang lalaki pero sa puso mo at paliramdam mo ang babae ka, kaya masasabi mong babae ka" napakarami pang sarado ang isip na mga Pilipino kaya talagang mahihirapan tayo dyan. Just watch the movie TransAmerica sa mga hindi maunawaan ang lahat.
Geez people! 1:31 is politically correct! This is a mental state (o, sa ma mabababaw, hindi porket may word na mental- may sira ha), a psychological condition. This is how they identify themselves, NOT how they wish other people would identify them. Mahirap intindihin dahil wala kayong medical background, then may google naman. Kayo pa galit kung makasita kay 1:31.
sinabi niyang babae siya, tas gusto nya irespect yun? pero ung rules ng isang private na lugar, ayaw niya sumunod at irespeto. hirap sa lgbt sila lagi gusto masunod. hindi puwede makisama society sa inyo. kayo mag adjust.
Some people just dont believe in God. Ok? So stop shoving it to their faces. If it's that how they want to identify themselves then so be it. Respect their own decisions.
Yes indeed our world is ridiculous. But we need to be RESPECTFUL. Yun lang, and our world will be a better place.. Regardless ano pa gusto nila. we need to respect everyones opinions.
Anon 1:01AM, I understand you, I'm also a Christian and tama yung sinabi ni Lord. Responsibility lang natin ang i-spread ang Word ni Lord and tell everyone the Truth pero andun din ung wala tayong right na manghusga or maging rude sa kanila na ipagpilitan sa kanila yung sinabi ni Lord, freewill na nila un, it's up to them, lahat din naman tayo sinners eh, one way or another. Maganda na lang gawin eh pagpray na lang natin ung nangyayari. It's up to God na and the leading of the Holy Spirit. We just have to love one another as they are also children of God, kawangis din ng Diyos natin.
3:35 kung ano ang naaayon sa kagustuhan nila un ang paniniwalaan nila. Pabayaan kung gustong maligaw sa fantasy world. Hindi naman tayo ang mapapagod at mahihilo sa mundong un.
Respect BEGETS Respect. Oa mga trannies na ito!! D lang nakapasok at nakahanap ng lalake inside the bar naging issue na?? Mas marami pang issue sa pinas na dapat ayusin!
Bading sya Hindi sya babae...nakakainsulto na sila Sa mga tunay na babae....i mean let's be realistic lalake sya kung choice nya maging bading go Lang pero wag naman tayo maglokohan at sabihing babae ka kasi Hindi talga
@1:45 Ganito Example: nung pinanganak ka lalaki ka pero habang lumalaki ka eh Marami kang nakikita at naging impluwensya sa pagiisip at pagdedesisyon mo so nag decide kang babae ka. Parang sa Valkyrie ayaw kang papasukin dahil yun ang norm o patakaran nila pero pilit mo pa ding ipagsisiksikan ang sarili mo coz rebelde ka eh sa Lumikha at sa me ari ng pribadong establisimiento!
kung hindi kayo pinapapasok sa bar, lumipat na lang kayo ng ibang bar. wag niyo nang payamanin meaning wag niyo nang awayin or i-boycott sa social media yung nasabing bar para hindi sumikat.
I agree ! go girl fight for your right !!! Aanhin ko ang mga straight na masasama naman ang mga ugali don na ako sa mga transgender na mga smart at articulate.C'mon people move forward !!!
You transgender people shld accept the fact that you will never have reproductive organs like a uterus, ovaries and fallopian tubes to be considered a full woman. Hwag nyo nang ipilit dahil hindi talaga kayo ganap na babae. Kaya minsan, sa mga clubs di kayo ganap na tanggap.
3:03, scientists have found hat homosexuality has a strong genetic component. Go on and research. Regardless if it's her choice or not, the fact that you're spewing that she's sick is seriously so bigoted.
If he actually chose to be a transgender, then he chose to be hurt, bullied, discrimated, etc? Who actually does that? Think about it!
BEING LGBT IS NOT A CHOICE. The only choice there is whether to act on it or not, whether to set yourself free by being who you really are or live life as a fake.
Iba ang gay sa transgender. A person's sexuality could be fluid. A transgender woman could still be attracted to a woman like Caitlyn. Siguro you wouldn't get it because you are stuck in the old school thinking that there are only two genders: woman and man.
Mga beks chill pill lang kayo. Awat na.. Pero sa totoo lang, aaminin ko, hirap din ako intindihin na, girl/gay? Girl ka pero hndi ka gay? Ah ewan. Basta ako respeto k sila.. Ke ano kapa..
Asus. Mga beks lang gumawa ng sarili nilang definition. Ganito lang yan, scientifically, either female ka or male. Ngayon if you bat for the other team, eh di lesbian ka or bakla. Huwag ng gawing complicated. Nakakaloka. Galit kung hindi maintindihan eh sila mismo ginagawang komplikado.
Simple lang yan eh. Kung hindi ka matanggap, eh di huwag. Huwag ipilit kung ayaw and hindi puede. Follow rules. It a choice. Take it or leave it and move on!
I have the highest respect for the LGBT community, pero the establishment already clarified that they did it for security purposes. It is just prioritizing the common good. Ngayon kasi, ang hirap na magidentify ng real IDs sa fake IDs.
As someone pointed out in twitter, in the US kung saan kinuha ni Veejay ang ID kuno niya na nagsasaad na girl daw siya, private bars can refuse admission to whomever they don't like. People can be rejected for not being famous enough, for being nerd looking, ugly, freaky, fat, short, dressed sloppily, etc etc. Bottom line, private club yan. Walang pilitan pumasok. Gawa kayo sarili niyong club if you want to dictate the rules. Hundi bawal ang bakla. Ang bawal yung hindi naka dress code.
I agree with you. Kung galing na sya sa US, dapat alam na nya yung certain rules ng clubs na may pinipili talaga sila na papasukin. Kung di ka pwede, baket pagpipilitan mo.
kasi nga gusto nya mag-ingay para mapansin siya.. na kesyo galing syang US na international student sya at may ID syang female.. ahahahaha papansin masyado.. bakit ba kasi kinokomplekado ang buhay nyo.. kung ayaw kayo papasukin eh di huwag, di nila matitikman dolyares mo.. ganon lang yon.. it's their loss not yours..
Hindi gagana yang idea na yan dito anon...because filipino gays unfortunately more often than not, look for straight males as partners...kaya the whole thing is just paradoxical. Instead of looking for people who will love them for them, they look for people who have other preferences and blind them with money to agree to be with them...sa states you see a lot of happy gay couples because they accept it...sa ayin dito kokonti lang...karamihan pineperahan lang ang mga gays. Kawawa din...can't be easy
Agree! Sana sa lgbt, please choose your battles. Ginagawa niong issue na may hindi pinapapasok sa inyo sa isang private bar?? Parang spoiled brat lang na pag di nakuha ang gusto, aalma at discrimination daw
ANON 449. BALIK KA ELEMENTARY. IT IS DEEMED PRIVATE. ANG PUBLIC PLACES YUNG OPEN PARKS, EDSA, ETC. THUS, ENTRANCE TO VALKYRIE IS.NEVER A RIGHT. AYAN HA, SINAGAD KO NA.
I have gay friends and I never hated gay people I love all of them, pero sana naman don't always think that you guys are api, because you always do self pity!
To be fair, it is not discrimination, the place is not a public property, it is their own private business and they can implement rules whatever they want to! Para lang yang sari-sari store, ako ang may-ari at sa tindahan ko bawal ang umutang, so ano dapat gawin ng taong balak umutang? Eh di maghanap ng ibang tindahan na uutangan! You dragged LGBT in this isolated case pero you always have to think that you are the one who is going to that place, that's theirs, not yours. xx
he is still a man. kahit tinanggal eh male reproductive system pa rin meron cya sa loob.. unless nagpalagay cya ng female reproductive organs, siguro by that time icoconsider ka ng babae.
Sabi nya babae sya. Paano ka naging babae e boses mo palang panlalake na? Iba ang iniisip mo sa realidad. Harsh reality, lalake ka. Almagdamit-babae ka man o magpa-sex change, science (your genes) will always prove otherwise.
I have gay friends too and they are not delusional to claim na babae sila. Ipinanganak silang lalake, pusong babae. Hindi komo ang puso mo pambabae e pwede mo ng i-claim na babae ka nga. May menstruation ka ba? Capable ba ang katawan mo na magbuntis at manganak? Kung ang sagot ay hindi tapos nag-uumigting ang adams apple mo, hindi ka babae. Period.
Natawa ako sa "nag-uumigting ang adams apple mo"! Hahaha! Winner! May point ka! Dapat pala un ung maging basehan kung babae ka ba talaga po lalaki, like yan sa menstruation, sa pagbubuntis, sa cells mo kung egg ba siya o sperm, un dapat maging basis bago sabihin ng isang tao kung lalake o babae ba talaga siya.
Un naman talaga ang basis, pero tinatry baguhin ng ibang lgbt ngayon. Tapos maooffend sila pag di tinanggap o di makasunod ang iba sa inimplement nilang definitions and distinctions. Magddrama na inaapi
Delusional. How can you possibly be a woman wala kang female hormones, wala kang egg cells, wala kang uterus. You are NOT a woman. You are a delusional man.
Tama, i'm not against sa gay. Mahal ko ang mga gay friend ko. Ang hindi ko gusto un sabihin nya na hindi sya gay kundi babae daw. Transgender woman, tama. Pero di mo pwedeng tanggalin un transgender dahil hindi ka nman completely na babae. Iba pa rin ang chromosomes mo. Wag ipilit ang hindi para sayo. Minsan, matuto din naman na mag accept kung ano ka. I hope hindi ka matulad sa mga ibang ngtransition na hindi kinaya. Suicide is not an option. Hindi ako impokrito, fact na taglay mo pa rin ang xy chromosomes.
Awkward ng interview, sapawan tapos yung V English ng English hirap naman. Sana tinagalog nalang lahat. Anyway, gaya nung sabi ni Kris, wag na payamanin yung establishment. Bumalik pa talaga siya dun after what happened lel.
ang aarte very simple kung di pwedi sa isang lugar dahil may policy eh di lumipat sa iba na free gawin ang gusto, palagi kasi pag may ganito feeling naman nila inaapi sila...mga SOCIAL CLIMBER kasi kayo., di nasunod gusto nyo KAYA DAKDAK kayo ng DAKDAK...MAY IBA KASING TRANSGENDER WOMEN IBA ANG PUNTERYA SA MGA GANYANG LUGAR KAYA SIGURO MAY POLICY NA GANYAN..#MgaSocialClimber
Is Valkyrie the new Senate? Ang gulo. Anyway, Krissy, try mo ang active listening. Si Tito Bhoy naman, ang raming sinabi. So ano ang point na may guest?! Hahaha
Their place, their rules. If you feel discriminated then go out of the establishment or wag ka na lang pumunta, as simple as that. Hindi lang Valkyrie ang bar sa Pilipinas pwede ba? Wag kayong OA. Hindi pinagbabawal ang LGBTs ang pinagbabawal ay CrossDressing. Oo, karapatan nyo magCrossDress pero hindi nyo karapatan pumasok sa private property na hindi sumusunod sa rules nila. Wag OA.
No offense meant. The difference between gays in the U.S. and the Philippines is that in the former they are quite respectable? Why? They act accordingly. They don't cross-dress. That should how it is supposed to be. In the Philippines, pardon the pun, the gays are disrespected also because of their actuations. Sometimes they exceeded real women - in terms of dressing and wearing of makeup. In the U.S. you will never see gays doing that. They are gays yet they still man's clothes. They're so handsome that you will think they're men. So Filipino gays should learn to imitate them. Dress accordingly.
3:38. uhhhh those ppl are called TRANS not just a simple gay. uuhhh here in the us, most gays actually dressed up like men. uhhh not like philippine gays uuhh
I read a post from humans of new york, a gay man sharing that being gay is just one part of him and does not necessarily define him. He doesn't see the need to tell people outright that he's gay. What he see rather, is that he is an individual. When people asks him if he is gay, he would answer "yes" and people don't mind. He gets more respect that way.
I have nothing against gays or lesbians or even trans but the way they demand equal rights is just too irritating. Aren't you allowed to vote? Don't you have equal job opportunities as straight people? Ang hirap kasi parang laging api. Kung gusto kayong respetuhin, respetuhin niyo din yung nasa paligid niyo.
bakit hindi ganon kadali tanggapin na may mga taong gustong maging iba sa kung paano sila pinanganak? anong pinagkaiba nun sa mga maiitim na nagpapaputi? mga pango na nagpapatangos ng ilong? mga maliliit ang b**bs na nagpapadagdag? mga matataba na gusto pumayat?
anon 12:44pm yon na nga problema eh! gusto nila tanggapin sila agad ng buong-buo.. hindi naman yon ganon kadali eh! of course para sa ibang tao di sya normal pero kung gawin nalang kaya ng mga gay/transgender/lesbian eh tumahimik at hayaang unti-unti silang tanggapin ng mga tao sa paligid nila total meron pa namang ibang tao na nagmamahal at tanggap sila..
Halos walang pinagkaiba sa pilipinas un sentiments mo. Di porket gumanda ka dahil sa surgical modification ay kaagad kang tatanggapin ng mga dati mo ng kilala. Hindi totally bukas ang isipa ng ibang pilipino pagdating sa topic na yan. Di bat dito sa site na to madalas di inaappreciate un hindi gandang natural. Madalas binabanggit ang "salamat po, doc" or "produkto ng siyensya". Siguro ganon din ang application ng iba sa gender (transgender).
Anong sinasabi ni Veejay na babae daw sya? Pagbalik baliktarin man ang mundo lalake ka pa din!!! May pagka mayabang ang dating nya ha. LGBT demands respect, eh di sana respetuhin nyo din yung rule ng bar! Maghanap kayo ng bar na welcome kayo para walang ganyang mga issue. Pa special treatment lagi ang LGBT!
LGBT if you want to make a change in society please do stop this brouhahaha na. And fight for something else (MOVE ON NA please lang) A lot of people already left sensible comments ^^ and I'll just add something. The world now is at war. Instead of fighting for fights as petty as this fight for something else. Look around discrimination is everywhere not just for cross dressers. But I'd rather fight for things like age discrimination or height discrimination when you are looking for a job. Discrimination based on where you graduated from. Discrimination against Filipinos. Something for greater good. There are so many establishments where LGBT can wear anything they want and no one will blink an eye.
Sabi ni AnonymousJune 24, 2015 at 6:37 AM: "I have gay friends too and they are not delusional to claim na babae sila. Ipinanganak silang lalake, pusong babae. Hindi komo ang puso mo pambabae e pwede mo ng i-claim na babae ka nga. May menstruation ka ba? Capable ba ang katawan mo na magbuntis at manganak? Kung ang sagot ay hindi tapos nag-uumigting ang adams apple mo, hindi ka babae. Period."
Winner 'tong comment na 'to! May point siya! Dapat pala un ung maging basehan kung babae ka ba talaga po lalake, like yan sa menstruation, sa pagbubuntis, sa cells mo kung egg ba siya o sperm, un dapat maging basis bago sabihin ng isang tao kung lalake o babae ba talaga siya. Para di ma-confuse.
May point talaga sya. Kailan pa tinawag na lalaki ang taong nagbubuntis at nagkakaroon ng mesntruation? At girls na may eggs? Yung mga nakikita mong ganun sa ibang bansa TRANSGENDER or may CAH yun. Males and females are like apples and oranges, unique in many ways.
sorry pero they're fighting for what? to get in night clubs? fight for Like health care and etc or whatever. But to get in clubs. Is this the world we're living in now? So shallow. I'm all for LGBT but this is absurd.
Talaga, masyadong big deal sa kanila. Hindi naman, necessity like food, shelter, etc. Ang daming mas mahalaga kesa dito. Nahurt kasi ang ego yata kaya ginagamit ang gender discrimination or API card.
I respect lgbt but mas mataas ung respeto ko sa mga gay/lesbain that dress appropriately dispite na alam ng lahat na gay sila pero they choose to dress decent. Kung ang babae nga nbbastos pg malawas what more sa lgbt. #peace
Bakla ako. But a policy is a policy. Aminin natin, may mga crossdressers na hindi talaga presentable and really acting over the top. and please, lets not claim na we inaapi tayo. Hindi. If we act accordingly, we will be treated nicely. Respect begets respect. And please, if you're a transgender, never claim that you are a woman. Transgender ka, malaking ipinagkaiba nun sa babae. Just be happy and thankful that you are given a choice and be privileged to be what you want to be. be proud kung ano ka at sino ka.
Bakla ako. Hindi ako insecure. I am proud of what and who I am. I can express what I want to express freely. I have my rights, but my rights end where the rights of my neighbors begin.
Wagi ang comment mo, sana tularan ka ng ibang gay. Hindi un ngpupumilit na tawagin silang babae, pwede tawaging transgender woman. Pero woman lang, hindi tama un unless na lng maging xx chromosome sya. Karulad ka ng mga friends ko malawak ang pag iisip. Hindi feeling api, nakikiayon sa rules at hindi pinipilit ang rights nya kung alam nyang may maaapektuhan.
Hindi mo pwedeng sabihin sa ibang tao na ganito ka, huwag mong iclaim na ganito ka. What if sinabi ko sa'yo, hindi ka bakla. Lalake ka, nagpapanggap ka lang na bakla. Anong mafifeel mo?
Pero di pa rin pwedeng iclaim na babae sya. Pwede pusong babae. Xy chromosomes sya, male pa rin un. Ang daming definition ngayon ng transgender, pero male pa rin un na nagtransition sa babae physically. Pinataas ang level ng estrogen or may surgical alteration pero xy chromosomes pa rin.
Anon 10:10PM, wala naman po akong sinasabing si ganito is ganito. I am speaking for myself. And with your question, I get that a lot before, during my younger years, I'm 28 btw. What I felt? To be honest, I got confused at first, but I know myself more than any one else. People are entitled by their opinions. I respect that. I had opinions too. And yes you are right, hindi mo pweding idikta sa ibang tao kung anu dapat sya. =)
Seriously????nagugulo ang mundo ng mga lgbt dahil lang nag tantrum at napahiya ang isa nilang kalahi???what's happening to you guys...c'mon..ito ba ang pag aksayahan nyo ng oras..i have high respect for third sex but this is way too childish...they refuse your entry once..dapat d kna bumalik..once is enough...
pano sila tatanggapin ng society as kung ano sila, eh sila mismo ayaw tanggapin na bakla sila? gusto nila babae sila, eh tanggap naman ng lipunan ang bakla. so sila ang may issue sa sarili nila eh.
Tama. Minsan maiinis ka nalang sa ibang LGBT members kasi akala mo kung sinong api. E jusko, wala naman pumipigil sakanila na gawin ang gusto nila. Mahilig lang sila mamilit sa mga bagay na hindi pwede kaya kala mo kung sinong mga activists. Ang OA na.
I'm sure may mga straight din na hindi pinapasok sa club na yan. I think valkyrie is selective not based on gender, but sa appearance, like maganda ba itsura, connections, etc. coz that's the image that they want...Only "cool" people can enter parang mean girls lang na "u can't sit with us" yun lang yon.
This issue is crazy. Valkyrie is a private establishment that has its rules. It's either you follow their rules to get in or you go buy yourself a club of your own and make your own rules. This has nothing to do with human rights. It's just like going to a private school that requires a certain uniform. You can't just enter your classes wearing whatever you want.
"Woman" that makes me confused dahil transgender sya he consider his self as she and don't want to be called as gay.... so dahil nagpaopera na sya woman na sya... pag hindi ka nagpaopera gay ka?..kahit na sabihing by heart ay woman sya..... may mali bali kung sabihing bakla sya eh wala namang nakakakahiya don ang daming sikat na tao na gay pero ok lang kahit sabihan silang GAY
Ang tingin ko, nasaktan pride niya sa sarili niya na kahit anong transformation niya, retoke, re-assignment, makeup, dress, etc., alam na alam pa ring lalaki siya pinanganak. Pero dahil nasaktan siya, sinama na lang niya ang buong LGBT at pinalabas na laban ito ng lahat ng LGBT. Kung nakapasok siya at inakalang babae, masaya siguro siya at baka ipagyabang pa na, babae na talaga ang tingin sa kanya kahit lalaki siya pinanganak kaya nga, kung talagang LGBT rights, no discrimination -ang issues niya talaga, bakit ang huli niya mga sinabi ay babae siya, hindi siya bakla? Gusto niya kasi marecognize as babae. Period. Na-hurt ego niya kasi lalaking lalaki itsura niya, kahit sa dilim ng entrance ng Valkyrie hehe.. ang pinalabas na lang eh nadiscriminate siya at ang buong sambayanan. して
OA makasabi ng tao naman sila, bakit sinabi bang di kayo tao? Di naman kayo pinagbawalan huminga o kumain. Di naman kayo tinanggalan ng karapatan! Kung di kayo pwde pumasok eh di lumipat kayo ng ibang bar. Simpleng issue pinapalaki..
ReplyDeleteIt's an issue of discrimination kse... There's just too much hypocrisy and discrimination going on in the Philippines...
DeleteUhy anong kumain huminga pinagsasabi mo dyan?? Natural hindi bawal yun. Hindi naman yun ang issue ang layo naman
DeleteKung sasabihin ko sa inyong hipon ako dahil natanggap ko na sa sarili ko na hipon ako, ganun nalang changing the fact na tao ako? Tsaka hindi right ang entrance to any establishment, feeling entitled lang talaga minsan.
DeleteAnong di tinanggalan ng karapatan? Eh di nga sila pinapasok sa valk eh. Doon palang tinanggalan na sila ng karapatan magparty dahil nga crossdressers sila. Ang mga straight na tao, hirap intindihin ang lgbt community, umaarte lang daw kami at masyadong sensitive pero once na maranasan nyo ung gantong bagay, tignan natin kung makapagsalita ka pa ng ganyan.
DeleteAng tawag sa mga taong tulad mo ay BIGOT! You don't know the meaning? Exactly...
DeleteKaya di tayo umuunlad eh...
Anon 838, hindi ka hipon. Lumot ka, lumot! Haha. But kidding aside, kahit pa hipon iniinsist mong perception sayo ng iba, tao ka! Kaya wag kang delusional! Tao ka, hindi ka hipon.
Delete956: tinanggalan ng karapatan magparty??
DeleteNagwawala kayo dahil dian? Omg.
Hindi lang valkyrie ang bar sa pilipinas, dun kayo magparty kung saan mas lenient ang policy
Precisely the point anon 536. Sayo na rin nanggaling, parang delusional diba
DeletePero pag ang bakla nagsabi: hindi ako bakla, babae ako
Pano na, tanggapin na lang natin? Kalimutan na lang natin ang biology, kasi sabi nia eh
9:56. Hindi sila tinanggalan ng karapatan magparty! Magparty siLa hanggat gusto nila pero hindi karapatan ang ipilit ang sarili nila sa isang prinadong lugar na may sariling rules and regulations. Nakakaloka kayo. Human right ba ang pumasok sa private club? Hindi po.
Delete*Xy chromosomes
DeleteI'm gay pero open minded ako , Kung yun yung rules ng owner I respect natin yun kasi property Nila yun eh , it's like you own a house and u don't allowed a certain people to come in .. Gets ? its your property you can set a rules and regulations same thing with resort they don't allow guest to swim with their MAONG PANTS .. Gets ?
DeleteSusunod nyan magwawala sila kasi di sila pinayagan sa female area ng mrt at lrt.. lol
Deletetama ka diyan 3.29. dapat nga tayong mga hetero maging sensitive sa mga sinasabi nilang babae sila dahil hindi naman talaga! dapat magbigay sila ng respect by not saying na babae sila!
DeleteAy napanood ko siya kanina at si mamang eh "warla mode:ON" nauutal na galit si mamang ever! LOL LOL
ReplyDeleteAkala ko nga magtatransform as alien yung transbakla sa sobrang nginig sa galit kanina! Hindi pa siya makapagsalita sa #AllKrisSometimesAllAbundaTonite
DeleteOa ng LGBT ngayon mga feeling api. If I know yung iba dyan nagrereact pero di naman nag ppuntang Valkyrie. Anyways, ang oa talaga! Di naman LGBT ang pinagbabawal eh diba? Malamang pwede kayo duon, ang hindi pwede ay ang CROSSDRESSING. Paki intindi. Feel kasi ng iba pinagbabawalan silang maging bakla eh. Tutal pa cool naman kayo at gusto nyong mag Valk, edi sumunod kayo sa rules. Tanggapan. Gusto nyo yan eh. Tsaka pwede ba, cross dressing is so indecent.
DeleteIgnorant people like you, Anon 2:11 AM, has a special place in hell.
DeleteWhat's indecent about cross dressing anon 2:11? Pakiexplain? If ang damit naman nila ay pasexy, so what? Thats a bar. Hindi yan church!!!
DeleteAng point naman kasi,bakt hndi sya pinapasok? Kasi halatang gay sya? Pero yung ibang gay/cross dresser pinapasok kasi mas malakas sa may ari? Meron nga discrimination na ngyayari. Ngayon kung ang rules nila eh ke cross dresser ka/gay/tibo/lalake/babae etc. at ayaw nila for a reason na ayaw lang nila. Wala tayong magagawa. Rules nila yun eh. Maghanap nalang tayo ng ibang bar.. Or better yet magtayo tayo ng bar, first come first serve/or by vip/appointment.
DeleteUi may nabuhay pa pala sa mga ancestors ng sodom at gomorrah... sorry mas una ka sa impyerno 3:34...
DeleteRespect other's rules. Hindi kayo dinidiscriminate. Unang una, private naman yon so may right silang gawin kung anong gusto nilang gawin. 2nd, its a high end bar. Kubg gustong magpunta sa high end, matutong mag comply. Cheap tignan ng cross dressing dahil lalaki ka tapos magsusuot ka ng pang babae? Tapos magagalit sa rules ng isang bar?
DeleteSana hindi na nila ininterview. Parang ayaw naman nilang pagsalitain eh. Hapit na hapit sa airtime. Kailangan rapper mode makipag-usap yung interviewee para lang makabuo ng statement. Kalurkey!
ReplyDelete15mins lang kasi ang A&A at may iba pa silang topic na pinaguusapan,hindi lang sa kanya minamadali kungdi sa lahat ng guests
DeleteHAHA pati ba sa A&A dapat ibreak ang rules para sa lgbt?
DeleteDun kayo sa Mars solo nyo
Deleteakala ko si ms. divine lee.
ReplyDeleteTrue. Hahaha. Tan version.
DeleteTrue. Ka fez at ka voice
DeleteUgly version
Deleteidol at kaibigan nya si Divine dati pa.
Delete2:19 Kelan naging maganda si Divine??
DeleteOa nitong bading na to!delusional tong mga lalakeng to na ngke-claim na babae sila...gays i can understand and respect but these transgenders boggle my mind...self proclaimed woman,i mean they were born with d*cks,why cant they just be gay/homosexual bakit kailangan sabihin babae sila when their made up of xx chromosomes,they can't give birth so basically lalake sila na may pusong babae Hindi sila babae...
DeleteGusto ko suntukin bunganga ni boy abunda na siya na lagi ang nagsasalita. Ratatat, nonstop, daldakita. But at the end of the interview, minahal ko si boy for his stand. But with kris aquino... Whats so funny kung sinabi ni veejay that shes a woman?! Whats so funny about that! Were talking abt the discrmination and rights of our sisters from the lgbt community, respeto sa guest mo! Again KRIS AQUINO, whats so funny?! Eh mas desente pa yang mga yan kesa sayo!
ReplyDeletehahahaha.. sana si gloc 9 na lang interviewhin nila, rapper mode pala eh.. hahahaha
DeleteMaybe Kris doesn't believe that he's a transgender. Iba ang gay sa transagender!
Deleteit's funny kasi in denial talaga sila. hindi naman sila talaga babae ah.
DeleteAkala ko ako lang nakapansin how rude kris Aquino was for laughing after veejay said that. Rude!!! And really Boy? Valkyrie management acted quick?? Really? This was not the first time! Happened a while back hello, the only reason they are actually doing something about it now is because it's become a very big issue in social media! Baka nga Kung Hindi eh dedma parin!
DeleteNapansin niyo din ung ginawang pagtawa ni kris pagkasabi ni Veejay na "babae siya"... Ako, I'm a straight woman and a Christian. Pero still everyone's not perfect or sinner and wala ako sa position na manghusga ng kapwa. And I find what kris did (laughed) rude pati ung walang preno sa salita ni boy, di nakapagsalita ung guest, nagpa-guest pa sila kung sila lang lagi magsasalita. And kung ako papapipiliin, mas pipiliin ko na si Veejay kasi disente siya magsalita, may breeding, unlike sa 2 un! Just my 2 cents.
DeletePansin ko din yan kay kris. Napaka-ignorante sa LGBT.
DeleteAng arte lang ninyo talaga. Mas pinag bbigyan lalong nagkaka sungay. Kelan naging babae ang taong pinanganak na lalaki? Tigilan ang denial. Kayo ang may problema. Aasta kayong kakaiba, pag nabati ayaw ninyo. Gusto nyo mag cross dressing do so. Huwag kayong papansin, kung ayaw nyong mapansin din. This rule goes to every gender in society. Behave!
Deletenakakatawa naman kasi, ang sabi ni veejay ang transgender hindi Bakla, eh pano ung mga walang pangretoke and pangpalit ng kasarian sa documents, Bakla nalang?
Deleteso pag may pera, transgender = female?
pag wala = bakla = bakla?
Chura mo
DeleteNaku lagot ka baks tinitira mo on-air si vice tsk tsk
ReplyDeleteAnong tinira niya dun? Nagthank you nga tinawagan siya to apologise. Mema.
DeleteHis ending statement that he is a she confused me. Im not a saint but the Bible clearly states that God made man a man; a woman a man.
ReplyDeleteHindi daw siya bakla. Transgender daw. Eh iisa lang ibig sabihin non. Ano na ba pinagkaiba non, iyong transgender nagoodbye na sa manoy niya? Nakakaloka
DeleteWhat an archaic view. She identifies herself as a woman, regardless of the gender she was born with. Let's respect that.
DeleteAndami mong alam!
Deleteagreeing with 1:31.
DeleteItong si @1:31 paintellectual pang bakla eh! Alam ng lahat na lalaki ito tulad ng ibang mga bakla! If a person identify themselves as a fish eh accept lang tayo? if a person identifies as a tree accept lang din? If a person identifies himself as a moon accept lang? Pag mga ganito we call it fantasy and me sa**d pero pag girl ang identification ng isang man sa sarili niya e reality and respect?! what stupidity!
DeleteYeah 1:31 respect regardless of gender she was born with. And where do you place respect for God and His work in that phrase? Ang hirap satin binigay na ng Diyos ung pagtanggap, ngayon pati ung role naman Niya gusto parin natin kunin. And please wag moko sabihan ng Banal at Ipokrito for this, those words should never be said side by side.
Delete1:31 She identified herself as a woman, and you actually believed on that?!?! So pagsinabi sayo ng tatay mo na babae siya o ng nanay mo na isa syang sala set eh tanggap mo agad! God this world is starting to be ridiculous!
DeleteVeejay hindi mo agad agad makukulta sa isip ng lahat ng pinoy yang mga pinagsasasabi mong "pinanganak kang may kasariang lalaki pero sa puso mo at paliramdam mo ang babae ka, kaya masasabi mong babae ka" napakarami pang sarado ang isip na mga Pilipino kaya talagang mahihirapan tayo dyan. Just watch the movie TransAmerica sa mga hindi maunawaan ang lahat.
DeleteGeez people! 1:31 is politically correct! This is a mental state (o, sa ma mabababaw, hindi porket may word na mental- may sira ha), a psychological condition. This is how they identify themselves, NOT how they wish other people would identify them. Mahirap intindihin dahil wala kayong medical background, then may google naman.
DeleteKayo pa galit kung makasita kay 1:31.
puro kayo "dyos". wag niyo gamitin ang relihiyon sa arguments niyo. mga hampaslupa.
DeleteNatawa ko sa sala set hehe
Deletesinabi niyang babae siya, tas gusto nya irespect yun? pero ung rules ng isang private na lugar, ayaw niya sumunod at irespeto. hirap sa lgbt sila lagi gusto masunod. hindi puwede makisama society sa inyo. kayo mag adjust.
DeleteSome people just dont believe in God. Ok? So stop shoving it to their faces. If it's that how they want to identify themselves then so be it. Respect their own decisions.
DeleteNatawa ko sa examples ni 305 and 331, but i agree. Tanggap na naman kasi ang bakla, igigiit pa ng iba na babae tlaga sila.
DeleteRidiculous indeed
Yes indeed our world is ridiculous. But we need to be RESPECTFUL. Yun lang, and our world will be a better place.. Regardless ano pa gusto nila. we need to respect everyones opinions.
Delete3:05 talaga ni-level mo yung pagiging bakla/transgender sa pagiging hayop at halaman?
DeleteAnon 1:01AM, I understand you, I'm also a Christian and tama yung sinabi ni Lord. Responsibility lang natin ang i-spread ang Word ni Lord and tell everyone the Truth pero andun din ung wala tayong right na manghusga or maging rude sa kanila na ipagpilitan sa kanila yung sinabi ni Lord, freewill na nila un, it's up to them, lahat din naman tayo sinners eh, one way or another. Maganda na lang gawin eh pagpray na lang natin ung nangyayari. It's up to God na and the leading of the Holy Spirit. We just have to love one another as they are also children of God, kawangis din ng Diyos natin.
DeleteMay point si anon 3:22AM
Delete10:16 AM: Some don't believe in God, yet they believe in FANTASY! LOL!
DeleteApi apihan levels tong si 1240. Pakiintindi ung context ni 3:05
Delete3:35 kung ano ang naaayon sa kagustuhan nila un ang paniniwalaan nila. Pabayaan kung gustong maligaw sa fantasy world. Hindi naman tayo ang mapapagod at mahihilo sa mundong un.
DeleteRespect BEGETS Respect. Oa mga trannies na ito!! D lang nakapasok at nakahanap ng lalake inside the bar naging issue na??
DeleteMas marami pang issue sa pinas na dapat ayusin!
Bading sya Hindi sya babae...nakakainsulto na sila Sa mga tunay na babae....i mean let's be realistic lalake sya kung choice nya maging bading go Lang pero wag naman tayo maglokohan at sabihing babae ka kasi Hindi talga
DeleteKulang sa SOGI ang Pinas. Sana masama sa curriculum as early as elementary.
ReplyDelete"Kung hindi binibigay sainyo,wag nyo ng payamanin." -krissy.hahaha true tho.
ReplyDeletePaki elaborate nga po. Di ko magets eh. - baklang slow
DeleteTama !
DeleteShe means don't give the establishment any more of your money if youre not getting the service you deserve
Delete@1:45 Ganito Example: nung pinanganak ka lalaki ka pero habang lumalaki ka eh Marami kang nakikita at naging impluwensya sa pagiisip at pagdedesisyon mo so nag decide kang babae ka. Parang sa Valkyrie ayaw kang papasukin dahil yun ang norm o patakaran nila pero pilit mo pa ding ipagsisiksikan ang sarili mo coz rebelde ka eh sa Lumikha at sa me ari ng pribadong establisimiento!
Deletekung hindi kayo pinapapasok sa bar, lumipat na lang kayo ng ibang bar. wag niyo nang payamanin meaning wag niyo nang awayin or i-boycott sa social media yung nasabing bar para hindi sumikat.
DeleteKung ayaw ibigay ang rights nila edi wag na tangkilikin pa yung bar...
DeleteAgree kay kris.. sa dinami dami ng bars, pinagsisiksikan nio sarili nio dian. Tapos magwewelga kayo pag di kayo pinapasok
DeleteWinner ang sinabi na ito ni krizzy. in your face, Veejay
Deletewhen was this?
ReplyDeletekelan to?
exact date?
buffering ...
Veejay is a respectable member of the lgbt community and he really should take advantage of this issue to speak out about the discrimination
ReplyDeleteManagement prerogative naman ang pwedeng sabihin ng bar
Delete*she
DeleteThey are not being discriminated....the Establishment is just being selective having a high status!
DeleteI agree ! go girl fight for your right !!! Aanhin ko ang mga straight na masasama naman ang mga ugali don na ako sa mga transgender na mga smart at articulate.C'mon people move forward !!!
DeleteHindi naman right ang mag clubbing. Hindi vested right yan sa kahit sinoman.
Delete@2:25 Una pano naging smart mga trans eh babae nga tingin nila sa sarili nila so dun pa lang eh fantasy world na sila. Sick mind na! Articulate?
Delete11.14 being gay is not a sickness. Meaning it is not a disorder.
DeleteBeing gay is not but to fool yourself and impose upon others that you are a woman is sick
DeleteYou're irrelevant with this issue, Kris! Stop talking!
ReplyDeletecan someone explain this to me? blocked kasi dito sa office ang videos eh. thanks!
ReplyDelete- baklitang bayaning puyat
ang gulo maginterview ni boy at kris. nagsasapawan. si boy nagmamadali lagi ayaw pagsalitain si kris.
ReplyDeleteDapat sa kanila wala ng guests. Sayang lang makeup ng guests nagabala pa, sa hosts pa lang sapaw na iyong salitaan
DeleteSi kris naman gustong gusto siya ang pag usapan. Mga epal na hosts
Deletekasi naman what kind of talk show is this 20mins lang? Ibalik na nila ang the buzz para di sila nagmamadali lagi
DeleteVeejay is sick. He is a man, he was born with a X and Y chromosomes, by nature , he is always and forever be a man.
ReplyDeleteThing is she did not choose to be gay, she was born that way. You, on the other hand, chose to be a bigot. By nature, you're an a**hole.
Delete224 anong born that way? My sense of identity ka naba when you were an infant? It's his CHOICE!
DeleteYou transgender people shld accept the fact that you will never have reproductive organs like a uterus, ovaries and fallopian tubes to be considered a full woman. Hwag nyo nang ipilit dahil hindi talaga kayo ganap na babae. Kaya minsan, sa mga clubs di kayo ganap na tanggap.
DeleteI get it he wants to be a woman. Ok. Fine. But to claim na hindi siya gay dahil babae siya? Wehhhh?
Delete2:24 i think ikaw ang sick,buksan mo ang mata mo, walang masama sa gusto nyang mangyari, acceptance lang ang gusto nila, f$&@ y-%u
Delete3:03, scientists have found hat homosexuality has a strong genetic component. Go on and research. Regardless if it's her choice or not, the fact that you're spewing that she's sick is seriously so bigoted.
Delete@2:24 your reply just made my year!
DeleteIf he actually chose to be a transgender, then he chose to be hurt, bullied, discrimated, etc? Who actually does that? Think about it!
DeleteBEING LGBT IS NOT A CHOICE. The only choice there is whether to act on it or not, whether to set yourself free by being who you really are or live life as a fake.
I'm straight and I even know this.
edi iaccept nyang bading siya. siya ang unang unang hindi makatanggap sa sarili nya. in denial.
DeleteIba ang gay sa transgender. A person's sexuality could be fluid. A transgender woman could still be attracted to a woman like Caitlyn. Siguro you wouldn't get it because you are stuck in the old school thinking that there are only two genders: woman and man.
DeleteMga beks chill pill lang kayo. Awat na.. Pero sa totoo lang, aaminin ko, hirap din ako intindihin na, girl/gay? Girl ka pero hndi ka gay? Ah ewan. Basta ako respeto k sila.. Ke ano kapa..
DeleteAsus. Mga beks lang gumawa ng sarili nilang definition. Ganito lang yan, scientifically, either female ka or male. Ngayon if you bat for the other team, eh di lesbian ka or bakla. Huwag ng gawing complicated. Nakakaloka. Galit kung hindi maintindihan eh sila mismo ginagawang komplikado.
DeleteHala, sige mga LGBT, kayo kayo rin ang nagle-label ng kung anu-ano sa mga sarili ninyo! You're just making Third-class citizens out of yourselves.
DeleteTama si 9:26, sya ang hindi makaaccept sa sarili nya. Pede kong tawaging delusional, false fixed belief.
DeleteSimple lang yan eh. Kung hindi ka matanggap, eh di huwag. Huwag ipilit kung ayaw and hindi puede. Follow rules. It a choice. Take it or leave it and move on!
DeleteI have the highest respect for the LGBT community, pero the establishment already clarified that they did it for security purposes. It is just prioritizing the common good. Ngayon kasi, ang hirap na magidentify ng real IDs sa fake IDs.
ReplyDeleteAs someone pointed out in twitter, in the US kung saan kinuha ni Veejay ang ID kuno niya na nagsasaad na girl daw siya, private bars can refuse admission to whomever they don't like. People can be rejected for not being famous enough, for being nerd looking, ugly, freaky, fat, short, dressed sloppily, etc etc. Bottom line, private club yan. Walang pilitan pumasok. Gawa kayo sarili niyong club if you want to dictate the rules. Hundi bawal ang bakla. Ang bawal yung hindi naka dress code.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you. Kung galing na sya sa US, dapat alam na nya yung certain rules ng clubs na may pinipili talaga sila na papasukin. Kung di ka pwede, baket pagpipilitan mo.
Deletekasi nga gusto nya mag-ingay para mapansin siya.. na kesyo galing syang US na international student sya at may ID syang female.. ahahahaha papansin masyado.. bakit ba kasi kinokomplekado ang buhay nyo.. kung ayaw kayo papasukin eh di huwag, di nila matitikman dolyares mo.. ganon lang yon.. it's their loss not yours..
DeleteHindi gagana yang idea na yan dito anon...because filipino gays unfortunately more often than not, look for straight males as partners...kaya the whole thing is just paradoxical. Instead of looking for people who will love them for them, they look for people who have other preferences and blind them with money to agree to be with them...sa states you see a lot of happy gay couples because they accept it...sa ayin dito kokonti lang...karamihan pineperahan lang ang mga gays. Kawawa din...can't be easy
DeleteBoy Abunda, hindi human right ang pumasok sa private club. Susmeo. Privilege yun sa sinoman gusto papasukin ng club. Wrong cause. Wrong venue.
ReplyDeleteAgree! Sana sa lgbt, please choose your battles. Ginagawa niong issue na may hindi pinapapasok sa inyo sa isang private bar?? Parang spoiled brat lang na pag di nakuha ang gusto, aalma at discrimination daw
DeleteDo you really think that valkyrie is a private bar???? Well it is not.
DeleteANON 449. BALIK KA ELEMENTARY. IT IS DEEMED PRIVATE. ANG PUBLIC PLACES YUNG OPEN PARKS, EDSA, ETC. THUS, ENTRANCE TO VALKYRIE IS.NEVER A RIGHT. AYAN HA, SINAGAD KO NA.
DeleteAh so ano yun! Public establishment? Publicly owned? Ganun? Parang public park? Mag-isip ka nga. It is a private club. Fact. Truth.
DeleteWhether its a private bar or not, clients should still adhere to its rules. If you do not like the rules, leave. No one forced you to go to the bar.
Deletepumunta na lang kayo sa lugar na accepted kayo.
ReplyDeletemismo... laki ng mga problema ng mga taong ito.
DeleteVeejay lalaki ka , hindi ka babae . Matakot ka sa Diyos sa mga pinagsasabi mo.....haayz!
ReplyDeleteI have gay friends and I never hated gay people I love all of them, pero sana naman don't always think that you guys are api, because you always do self pity!
ReplyDeleteTo be fair, it is not discrimination, the place is not a public property, it is their own private business and they can implement rules whatever they want to! Para lang yang sari-sari store, ako ang may-ari at sa tindahan ko bawal ang umutang, so ano dapat gawin ng taong balak umutang? Eh di maghanap ng ibang tindahan na uutangan! You dragged LGBT in this isolated case pero you always have to think that you are the one who is going to that place, that's theirs, not yours. xx
ReplyDeleteOh em! Tranny na si Veejay. Wala lang. A few years ago kasi sa project runway PH di pa sya ganyan. Nag iba itsura nya.
ReplyDeletehe is still a man. kahit tinanggal eh male reproductive system pa rin meron cya sa loob.. unless nagpalagay cya ng female reproductive organs, siguro by that time icoconsider ka ng babae.
ReplyDeleteSabi nya babae sya. Paano ka naging babae e boses mo palang panlalake na? Iba ang iniisip mo sa realidad. Harsh reality, lalake ka. Almagdamit-babae ka man o magpa-sex change, science (your genes) will always prove otherwise.
ReplyDeleteI have gay friends too and they are not delusional to claim na babae sila. Ipinanganak silang lalake, pusong babae. Hindi komo ang puso mo pambabae e pwede mo ng i-claim na babae ka nga. May menstruation ka ba? Capable ba ang katawan mo na magbuntis at manganak? Kung ang sagot ay hindi tapos nag-uumigting ang adams apple mo, hindi ka babae. Period.
ReplyDeleteNatawa ako sa "nag-uumigting ang adams apple mo"! Hahaha! Winner! May point ka! Dapat pala un ung maging basehan kung babae ka ba talaga po lalaki, like yan sa menstruation, sa pagbubuntis, sa cells mo kung egg ba siya o sperm, un dapat maging basis bago sabihin ng isang tao kung lalake o babae ba talaga siya.
DeleteUn naman talaga ang basis, pero tinatry baguhin ng ibang lgbt ngayon. Tapos maooffend sila pag di tinanggap o di makasunod ang iba sa inimplement nilang definitions and distinctions. Magddrama na inaapi
DeleteDelusional. How can you possibly be a woman wala kang female hormones, wala kang egg cells, wala kang uterus. You are NOT a woman. You are a delusional man.
ReplyDeleteTama, i'm not against sa gay. Mahal ko ang mga gay friend ko. Ang hindi ko gusto un sabihin nya na hindi sya gay kundi babae daw. Transgender woman, tama. Pero di mo pwedeng tanggalin un transgender dahil hindi ka nman completely na babae. Iba pa rin ang chromosomes mo. Wag ipilit ang hindi para sayo. Minsan, matuto din naman na mag accept kung ano ka. I hope hindi ka matulad sa mga ibang ngtransition na hindi kinaya. Suicide is not an option. Hindi ako impokrito, fact na taglay mo pa rin ang xy chromosomes.
DeleteAgree
Deletesuperfacial club....
ReplyDeleteDerma ba ititch?
DeleteAwkward ng interview, sapawan tapos yung V English ng English hirap naman. Sana tinagalog nalang lahat. Anyway, gaya nung sabi ni Kris, wag na payamanin yung establishment. Bumalik pa talaga siya dun after what happened lel.
ReplyDeleteBest comments ever tong article na to. Dami ko tawa. Good morning!!!
ReplyDeleteWag na silang mag Valkyrie kung di sila tanggap doon. Eh gusto nila pasosyal din eh.
ReplyDeleteCan we all just be Humans for once and stop all this hate?
ReplyDeletehow can this be hate? he doesn't want to follow the club's rules so he wasn't allowed to get in.
Deletehatred agad?
ang aarte very simple kung di pwedi sa isang lugar dahil may policy eh di lumipat sa iba na free gawin ang gusto, palagi kasi pag may ganito feeling naman nila inaapi sila...mga SOCIAL CLIMBER kasi kayo., di nasunod gusto nyo KAYA DAKDAK kayo ng DAKDAK...MAY IBA KASING TRANSGENDER WOMEN IBA ANG PUNTERYA SA MGA GANYANG LUGAR KAYA SIGURO MAY POLICY NA GANYAN..#MgaSocialClimber
ReplyDeleteang OA talaga ng mga baklang toh! feeling babae!
ReplyDeleteIs Valkyrie the new Senate? Ang gulo. Anyway, Krissy, try mo ang active listening. Si Tito Bhoy naman, ang raming sinabi. So ano ang point na may guest?! Hahaha
ReplyDeleteTheir place, their rules. If you feel discriminated then go out of the establishment or wag ka na lang pumunta, as simple as that. Hindi lang Valkyrie ang bar sa Pilipinas pwede ba? Wag kayong OA. Hindi pinagbabawal ang LGBTs ang pinagbabawal ay CrossDressing. Oo, karapatan nyo magCrossDress pero hindi nyo karapatan pumasok sa private property na hindi sumusunod sa rules nila. Wag OA.
ReplyDeleteGrabe naman si Boy nakakainis di na nakapgsalita ung iniinterview. Ikaw na lang din kaya ung guest. Oo na alam mo na lahat.
ReplyDeleteNo offense meant. The difference between gays in the U.S. and the Philippines is that in the former they are quite respectable? Why? They act accordingly. They don't cross-dress. That should how it is supposed to be. In the Philippines, pardon the pun, the gays are disrespected also because of their actuations. Sometimes they exceeded real women - in terms of dressing and wearing of makeup. In the U.S. you will never see gays doing that. They are gays yet they still man's clothes. They're so handsome that you will think they're men. So Filipino gays should learn to imitate them. Dress accordingly.
ReplyDeleteUhhh. At saan ka sa US pumunta para masabi yan? Obviously you haven't been to New York or LA.
Deleteagree on that!
Deletethey're HOT gays! Sayang! Sana bumalik sila sa pagiging totoong men!
Delete3:38. uhhhh those ppl are called TRANS not just a simple gay.
Deleteuuhhh here in the us, most gays actually dressed up like men. uhhh not like philippine gays uuhh
I read a post from humans of new york, a gay man sharing that being gay is just one part of him and does not necessarily define him. He doesn't see the need to tell people outright that he's gay. What he see rather, is that he is an individual. When people asks him if he is gay, he would answer "yes" and people don't mind. He gets more respect that way.
ReplyDeleteI have nothing against gays or lesbians or even trans but the way they demand equal rights is just too irritating. Aren't you allowed to vote? Don't you have equal job opportunities as straight people? Ang hirap kasi parang laging api. Kung gusto kayong respetuhin, respetuhin niyo din yung nasa paligid niyo.
I am gay and I agree with you. Very nice thought.
DeleteSapul na sapul!
Deletebakit hindi ganon kadali tanggapin na may mga taong gustong maging iba sa kung paano sila pinanganak? anong pinagkaiba nun sa mga maiitim na nagpapaputi? mga pango na nagpapatangos ng ilong? mga maliliit ang b**bs na nagpapadagdag? mga matataba na gusto pumayat?
ReplyDeleteanon 12:44pm yon na nga problema eh! gusto nila tanggapin sila agad ng buong-buo.. hindi naman yon ganon kadali eh! of course para sa ibang tao di sya normal pero kung gawin nalang kaya ng mga gay/transgender/lesbian eh tumahimik at hayaang unti-unti silang tanggapin ng mga tao sa paligid nila total meron pa namang ibang tao na nagmamahal at tanggap sila..
DeleteHalos walang pinagkaiba sa pilipinas un sentiments mo. Di porket gumanda ka dahil sa surgical modification ay kaagad kang tatanggapin ng mga dati mo ng kilala. Hindi totally bukas ang isipa ng ibang pilipino pagdating sa topic na yan. Di bat dito sa site na to madalas di inaappreciate un hindi gandang natural. Madalas binabanggit ang "salamat po, doc" or "produkto ng siyensya". Siguro ganon din ang application ng iba sa gender (transgender).
DeleteBOTTOMLINE: Hindi BAKLA si Veejay Floresca! (hyena laugh)
ReplyDeleteHahaha, natawa ako baks, masyadong mapagpanggap. Lalong ginagawang kumplikado ang buhay.
DeleteSi boy nahahawa na kay kris, naging madaldal na rin sobra! Di man lang napagsalita ung guest ng maayos!
ReplyDeleteAnong sinasabi ni Veejay na babae daw sya? Pagbalik baliktarin man ang mundo lalake ka pa din!!! May pagka mayabang ang dating nya ha. LGBT demands respect, eh di sana respetuhin nyo din yung rule ng bar! Maghanap kayo ng bar na welcome kayo para walang ganyang mga issue. Pa special treatment lagi ang LGBT!
ReplyDeleteLGBT if you want to make a change in society please do stop this brouhahaha na. And fight for something else (MOVE ON NA please lang) A lot of people already left sensible comments ^^ and I'll just add something. The world now is at war. Instead of fighting for fights as petty as this fight for something else. Look around discrimination is everywhere not just for cross dressers. But I'd rather fight for things like age discrimination or height discrimination when you are looking for a job. Discrimination based on where you graduated from. Discrimination against Filipinos. Something for greater good. There are so many establishments where LGBT can wear anything they want and no one will blink an eye.
ReplyDelete- from a mess up place
Correct, be sensible. Wag ng palakihin ang issue na to.
DeleteGusto ni ineng sumikat gusto ata magshowbiz!
ReplyDeleteDun na lang kayo sa Cafe Havana, sigurado tanggap kayo dun, wala pa entrance.
ReplyDeleteSabi ni AnonymousJune 24, 2015 at 6:37 AM:
ReplyDelete"I have gay friends too and they are not delusional to claim na babae sila. Ipinanganak silang lalake, pusong babae. Hindi komo ang puso mo pambabae e pwede mo ng i-claim na babae ka nga. May menstruation ka ba? Capable ba ang katawan mo na magbuntis at manganak? Kung ang sagot ay hindi tapos nag-uumigting ang adams apple mo, hindi ka babae. Period."
Winner 'tong comment na 'to! May point siya! Dapat pala un ung maging basehan kung babae ka ba talaga po lalake, like yan sa menstruation, sa pagbubuntis, sa cells mo kung egg ba siya o sperm, un dapat maging basis bago sabihin ng isang tao kung lalake o babae ba talaga siya. Para di ma-confuse.
Naloka ko sa adams apple
DeleteMay point talaga sya. Kailan pa tinawag na lalaki ang taong nagbubuntis at nagkakaroon ng mesntruation? At girls na may eggs? Yung mga nakikita mong ganun sa ibang bansa TRANSGENDER or may CAH yun. Males and females are like apples and oranges, unique in many ways.
DeleteAkala ko sa unang tingin si Divne Lee.
ReplyDeletesorry pero they're fighting for what? to get in night clubs? fight for Like health care and etc or whatever. But to get in clubs. Is this the world we're living in now? So shallow. I'm all for LGBT but this is absurd.
ReplyDeleteTalaga, masyadong big deal sa kanila. Hindi naman, necessity like food, shelter, etc. Ang daming mas mahalaga kesa dito. Nahurt kasi ang ego yata kaya ginagamit ang gender discrimination or API card.
DeleteI respect lgbt but mas mataas ung respeto ko sa mga gay/lesbain that dress appropriately dispite na alam ng lahat na gay sila pero they choose to dress decent. Kung ang babae nga nbbastos pg malawas what more sa lgbt. #peace
ReplyDeleteBasta ako pantay-pantay ang respeto ko sa lahat ng miyembro ng LGBT.
DeleteBakla ako. But a policy is a policy. Aminin natin, may mga crossdressers na hindi talaga presentable and really acting over the top. and please, lets not claim na we inaapi tayo. Hindi. If we act accordingly, we will be treated nicely. Respect begets respect. And please, if you're a transgender, never claim that you are a woman. Transgender ka, malaking ipinagkaiba nun sa babae. Just be happy and thankful that you are given a choice and be privileged to be what you want to be. be proud kung ano ka at sino ka.
ReplyDeleteBakla ako. Hindi ako insecure. I am proud of what and who I am. I can express what I want to express freely. I have my rights, but my rights end where the rights of my neighbors begin.
Wagi ang comment mo, sana tularan ka ng ibang gay. Hindi un ngpupumilit na tawagin silang babae, pwede tawaging transgender woman. Pero woman lang, hindi tama un unless na lng maging xx chromosome sya. Karulad ka ng mga friends ko malawak ang pag iisip. Hindi feeling api, nakikiayon sa rules at hindi pinipilit ang rights nya kung alam nyang may maaapektuhan.
DeleteButi naman may mga kagaya mo pa - realistic. Kudos to you.
DeleteHindi mo pwedeng sabihin sa ibang tao na ganito ka, huwag mong iclaim na ganito ka. What if sinabi ko sa'yo, hindi ka bakla. Lalake ka, nagpapanggap ka lang na bakla. Anong mafifeel mo?
Deletedi mo naman gets teh. so shut up ka na lang.
Deleteang may pinaka sense sa lahat ng comments.
DeletePero di pa rin pwedeng iclaim na babae sya. Pwede pusong babae. Xy chromosomes sya, male pa rin un. Ang daming definition ngayon ng transgender, pero male pa rin un na nagtransition sa babae physically. Pinataas ang level ng estrogen or may surgical alteration pero xy chromosomes pa rin.
DeleteThank you sa reply guys!
DeleteAnon 10:10PM, wala naman po akong sinasabing si ganito is ganito. I am speaking for myself. And with your question, I get that a lot before, during my younger years, I'm 28 btw. What I felt? To be honest, I got confused at first, but I know myself more than any one else. People are entitled by their opinions. I respect that. I had opinions too. And yes you are right, hindi mo pweding idikta sa ibang tao kung anu dapat sya. =)
Hi Anon 11:38PM, would you be kind enough to enlighten me regarding your claim?
DeleteKaloka si boy abunda, super affected. LOL
ReplyDeleteNothing funny. He's part of the LGBT community!
DeleteAHAHA, c veejay babae daw hindi bakla HAHAHAHA
Deletesa lahat ng bars itong Valkyrie may malaking issue..inbestigahan nah yan sah Senado.
ReplyDeleteSeriously????nagugulo ang mundo ng mga lgbt dahil lang nag tantrum at napahiya ang isa nilang kalahi???what's happening to you guys...c'mon..ito ba ang pag aksayahan nyo ng oras..i have high respect for third sex but this is way too childish...they refuse your entry once..dapat d kna bumalik..once is enough...
ReplyDeletepano sila tatanggapin ng society as kung ano sila, eh sila mismo ayaw tanggapin na bakla sila? gusto nila babae sila, eh tanggap naman ng lipunan ang bakla. so sila ang may issue sa sarili nila eh.
ReplyDeleteSabo nga nung isang fb post: a bruised ego does not mean discrimination. Hindi lng napagbigyan ginawa nang big deal at sumisigaw agad equal rights
ReplyDeleteKaya nga, na-hurt lng naman ang ego. Un lang ang issue dun. Kung ayaw kang papasukin, wag ipilit lalo nat di ka naman siningil.
DeleteTama. Minsan maiinis ka nalang sa ibang LGBT members kasi akala mo kung sinong api. E jusko, wala naman pumipigil sakanila na gawin ang gusto nila. Mahilig lang sila mamilit sa mga bagay na hindi pwede kaya kala mo kung sinong mga activists. Ang OA na.
DeleteHERE COME THE BIGOT COMMENTERS AGAIN!
ReplyDeleteI'm sure may mga straight din na hindi pinapasok sa club na yan. I think valkyrie is selective not based on gender, but sa appearance, like maganda ba itsura, connections, etc. coz that's the image that they want...Only "cool" people can enter parang mean girls lang na "u can't sit with us" yun lang yon.
ReplyDeletehiyang-hiya naman ang mga totoong babae kay veejay floresca
ReplyDeleteThis issue is crazy. Valkyrie is a private establishment that has its rules. It's either you follow their rules to get in or you go buy yourself a club of your own and make your own rules. This has nothing to do with human rights. It's just like going to a private school that requires a certain uniform. You can't just enter your classes wearing whatever you want.
ReplyDeletePeg nya si Divine lol
ReplyDelete"Woman" that makes me confused dahil transgender sya he consider his self as she and don't want to be called as gay.... so dahil nagpaopera na sya woman na sya... pag hindi ka nagpaopera gay ka?..kahit na sabihing by heart ay woman sya..... may mali bali kung sabihing bakla sya eh wala namang nakakakahiya don ang daming sikat na tao na gay pero ok lang kahit sabihan silang GAY
ReplyDeleteAng tingin ko, nasaktan pride niya sa sarili niya na kahit anong transformation niya, retoke, re-assignment, makeup, dress, etc., alam na alam pa ring lalaki siya pinanganak. Pero dahil nasaktan siya, sinama na lang niya ang buong LGBT at pinalabas na laban ito ng lahat ng LGBT. Kung nakapasok siya at inakalang babae, masaya siguro siya at baka ipagyabang pa na, babae na talaga ang tingin sa kanya kahit lalaki siya pinanganak kaya nga, kung talagang LGBT rights, no discrimination -ang issues niya talaga, bakit ang huli niya mga sinabi ay babae siya, hindi siya bakla? Gusto niya kasi marecognize as babae. Period. Na-hurt ego niya kasi lalaking lalaki itsura niya, kahit sa dilim ng entrance ng Valkyrie hehe.. ang pinalabas na lang eh nadiscriminate siya at ang buong sambayanan. して
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