wag ng umasa dahil kahit umunlad ang pilipinas kung mas maraming ganid walang mangyayari. que 6 yrs resident palang si grace only in the phils mananalo pa din yan .. dahil marami ng imposibleng nagging posible sa pinas..
3:31 am at mas may alam ka? He teaches in one of the prestigious university in the Philippines. Show us your license darling. Which law school did you graduate ? I hope you have the ability to take challenging cases? Really if you have issues about him and his practice go call the philippine bar , report him and get him disbarred.
actually, you don't have to live for at least 10 years to love the country, to show your love to your country. the moment she decided to drop her US citizenship, that's the time you can say that she love PH than US.
One more thing, you also don't have to live in the PH for 10 years just to know what the f is the country's problem! maski tiga ibang bansa alam nila ang problema ng bansa kahit di sila tumira dito. ugh!
Nakikita ko kay Grace ang sincerity. I'll vote for her. Babawiin nya ang inagaw sa tatay nya at gagampanan nyang mabuti ang tungkulin if ever nma-elect sya!
Kahit siguro sino ang maupo pareho din. Dahil sa UTANG NA LOOB sa mayayaman at makapangyarihang negosyante na handang magbigay ng milyon milyong/bilyon campaign fund para manalo lang abg kandidatong tatanaw ng UTANG NA LOOB sa kanya/kanila! Pansariling interes lang, hindi interes ng sambayanang Pilipino!
Hawak ng mayayamang negosyante ang gobyerno ng Pilipinas! Kung ano ang idikta kailangan sunud sunuran. Kung hindi gagamitin ang salapi at impluwensya para patalsikin ang naka-upo! Nakakawalang pag-asa ang ganitong sistema!
It's not tsismis sweetie it's a fact, the point there is she badly wants to run for office and trying to circumvent the law. She is not yet a president , how much more when she is in that position of power? Will she disregard it? What's the rush anyways?
you probably forgot, baka mukhang malinis at mabango pa siya kasi ala pa siyang masyadong experience in politics. they all go down that road, nagkakatalo na lng sa competence o kakayahan mamuno w/c she surely doesnt have in 3yrs experience as Senator!
10:32 pm true ba yan ateng? All lawyers or most people like money dearie. Services rendered need to be paid. If you have issues on how he practice his profession go to the bar association sweet pea. Bring all the legal documents to support your claim. He graduated from UP darling. Argue your point sweetie not character assassination. The issue as per Article viii section 2 the philippine constitution EXPLICITLY states the candidate needs to be a resident of the Phil for at least 10 years Immediately Preceding such election. If you don't understand it go seek a lawyer so you can understand it.
SO agree with this! PLUS, are we going to just be given politicians who have resided here since birth BUT have ill motives for their OWN COUNTRY? papansin lang tung si Fortun!
Residency, as regards election, in accordance with our laws and jurisprudence is synonymous with domicile. Domicile=physical presence+animus rivertendi (intent to return)+animus manendi (intent to remain). In our equation, however, Sen. Poe lacks physical(bodily) presence 10 yrs immediately preceding the election. So, Atty. Fortun has a point. We cannot bend the Constitution for a momentary response to a momentary problem because it's the supreme law.
Anon 1:26 si poedito pinanganak hanggang nagdalaga, di pa ba physical yun? More than 10 years , physical presence. Wala ng question yan dapat since dito sya pinanganak at mga magulang nya for sure ay mga pinoy kahit iniwan sya sa loob ng simbahan.nakupo.
Foundling nga eh. Hindi alam kung sino ang magulang. Hindi alam kung saan ipinanganak. I just researched, ang vague naman ng 1935 Constitution regarding "Natural Born Citizens". I was going to argue na hindi imposibleng anak sya ng intsik, pinanganak sya sa Vietnam at iniwan sya sa simbahan after mamangka ng 3 araw sa dagat ang mga totoong magulang nya.
Kahit pa ba "Foundling", meron paring Late Registry at puwede mong i-state dun na sa Pilipinas siya ipinanganak. Walang pinagkaiba yun sa normal na birth certificate.
Hellooo! Ika nga ni Dean Tony La Viña, just like Cong. Imelda Marcos, yun Intent to Return is acceptable. And stop pretending Fortun that you are for Sen. Poe.
Marcos case is different honey as she never lost domicile and she did not acquire US citizenship she was forced to be on exile. While Grace acquired US citizenship and only renounced it when she got a government position. What if she did not get a government position would she renounce it? She filed some documents that stated her year of residence which is a legal document. Why bend the law there will be more elections to come?
1:48 Grace never lost her Filipino citizenship. She acquired US citizenship by virtue of marriage to her US citizen husband but she remained a Filipino citizen thru the dual citizenship law. Besides, this is not a matter of citizenship but residency. And the SC is very clear, the declaration in the certificate of candidacy is not conclusive. If there are evidence to show that in fact you satisfy the residency requirement, then yung ang magma-matter. PLus animus revertendi is the rule. Plus, FACT is, she has been living here since here return when her father died. 2004 pa yun. Sobra na siyang 10 years.
puro open letter bat ayaw nila magsampa ng reklamo, puro dakdak diba kung sabi ng law na hindi pwede so anu kinatatakot nyo atty?? Dahil ba sen grace can win the presidential bid
y would he file a case? he is a lawyer and he is fully aware dat at dis point in time, der is no justiciable issue and actual controversy since election is just forthcoming.
I agree! Na sway Si Grace Poe! I like and will definitely vote for her but not in this coming election kso she's always nsa news. Araw araw nsa abs. Lol.
kasi sino nman iupong presidente mag rereklamo at magrereklamo pa din mga tao. sana mga bago nlng lahat mahirap na pag tumakbo nnmn si E, bka palayain ang son at bf.
Sus!!! Umepal na naman tong lawyer nato...di naman marunong manindigan lalo't maraming komokontra sa kanya...remember nung maging isa sya sa "Most Bashed" and one of the most hated personality dahil sa pag-epal sa Vhong Navaro issue? #WalangPatol
7:46 Please state your arguments based on the existing issue and not on a personal note. The law is the law. : basa muna pag may time philippine jurisprudence . Huwag maging mang mang ,
naku takot na sila kay se. grace poe...for sure talo kasi sila pag si grace ang tatakbong presidente..kung ano anong gImik ang naiisip...open letter naman ngayon..susme....bayaran ito ng kung sino mang future presidential canfidate...alam na...
7:57 pm wrong argument the point there is about existing laws that grace is trying to circumnavigate . She is not only candidate that is worthy of that position . If without power you try to circumnavigate it what more if grace was in a position to do so?
Anong circumnavigate pinagsasabi mo diyan? She does not have to. She satisfies the residency! Bago ka magpapaniwala diyan kay Fortun, isipin mo muna kung anong credibility meron ang taong yan. Suggest ko sayo magbasa ka ng mga impartial opinion, yung mga tipo nila Prof. Sta. Maria na mga walang association sa politics.
4:39 pm basa muna o punta ng library bago mag comment or complain to the philippine bar Kungali si atty fortun if not I challenge nila yan bukas ang korte para diyan . 5:10 is that all you can say sweetie as you have nothing intelligent to say . Oh well Kung diyan lang ang kaya ng utak mo .
12:16 Weh, if she is allowed to run by the Comelec, chances are the SC will not intervene. No way in hell will a winning presidential candidate be disqualified.It will be chaotic, thus any disqualification will be settled prior to the election. Besides, as soon as ma-declare na nanalo, it will be the SEnate Electoral Tribunal who will handle it. They will not risk catching the ire of the voters of a winning president.
Mas gusto ko na yung hindi mag nanakaw na tumira sa ibang bansa kesa naman sa mag nanakaw na dito nakatira sa pinas. And please lang, huwag mo ng gamitin ang pangalan ni Lord sa mga patutsada mo. Alam nya kung ano ang mga kasalanan mo.
mas gusto ko na yun kurakot basta maraming nagawa at napatunayan, kesa sa mga nagsasanta-santito dyan, pero puro palpak o wala nman kakayanan mamuno ng bansa! lahat yan, mga corrupt, nagtatalo na lng sa talino at kakayahan.
Ikaw din 12:34 basa ka din jurisprudence. Malinaw pa sa sikat ng araw ang sabi ng SC sa usaping residency. HIndi conclusive ang declaration sa cErtifcate of candidacy.
BURN 12:34 hahaha. Hindi porket lawyer si Fortun eh paniniwalaan mo na. Kaya nga delikado yang mga open letter na ganyan kasi madaming gullibe na naniniwala ng basta basta. And yes, epal talaga si Fortun at amoy na amoy naman na may bahid pulitika eh. In the end, COMELEC and the SC ang may final say diyan. So until then, manahimik nalang muna sila. Nagmumukha silang desperado to put Poe down ni hindi pa nga sya nagaannounce ng pagtakbo nya.
4:28 you need to educate yourself the word preceding understand it ok , acquired us citizenship alamon mo rin yan , legal document stating that she became a resident intindihin mo rin yan. Haha philippine education system Ang daming b . Ay ewan god bless nalang the Philippines
7:51 pm read the philippine constitution I do not take anything by face value or what anyone says as I am well too educated for that. But for an ignorant retard like you that's all you can say because in Tagalog hanggang diyan lang ang abot ng utak mo . That's why you are stuck in your little rat hole . Read what you are writing the way you try to justify things are based on personal attacks as you can not win your argument based on a specific law constitutional provision or rule sumisingaw across the world ang pagiging ignorante mo at ikaw ay isang mangmang.
AnonymousJune 10, 2015 at 7:13 PM Why would she/her need to challenge it? Si Fortun at ibang bayaran ang kumu-kwestyon sa residency ni Poe, di sila ang pumunta sa korte. The SC has already construed the Constitution and the applicable laws in a landmark decision. Animus Revertendi! Pero bakit nga ba makikipagdiscuss sa iyo "sweetie" eh makitid naman utak mo. Pag-aralan mo muna decision ng Supreme Court. Remind lang kita that they have the ultimate say on how the rules are to be construed.
A person doesn't need to live in the Philippines for 10 years in order to know what ills it. Pa facial at diamond peel ka muna bago ka umepal "mister" Fortun.
I agree with you. However, the law is clear that one of the qualifications of the President of the Philippines is that he/she should have resided in the Philippines for at least 10 years prior to the date of his election. That is what the Constitution, the highest law of the land, says. It must be followed. Otherwise, push for charter change.
1:46 hahaha napansin mo rin? pansin na pansin ko yan kanina pa hahaha! ang mga bayaran talaga nagtitiyagang sagutin lahat ng against k atty. bakit di ninyo papuntahin sa senado ang protector ninyo at doon sagutin ang mga alegasyon laban sa kanya,
Hahaha kanina pa siya. Kung hindi sweetie, darling. Tapos lahat ng anti fortun sasabihan niya ng challenge the law. Hahahahaha teh kamag anak ka ni fortun? Affiliated yata, may hugot ang pagcocomment. Sa lahat nagrereply
2:20 am and 2:16 am both of you are way off the mark . Am I writing an essay here that's graded? Why don't you try writing in English and I will have my team grade it for you? Really ? What's your level of education? I do have an MBA and English proficiency certificate that shows a perfect score. Oh well people like you in vernacular hanggang diyan lang ang kayang maabot. Please take care of your sorry pathetic lives. :) :) stick to the issue , idiots ! The last time I check it's about jurisprudence not the character of Atty Fortun or the people who begged to disagree with your ignorance. :)P
2:16 at 2:20 ha ha ha my friend 7:17 presides board meetings . Shame on you.Since when was fashion pulis a graded essay? He was bored in the party and decided to kill time by going through the articles in fashion pulis. Eh kayo Anong na tapos ninyo? Stick with the issue. Oh well, I guess there is nothing you can do about someone's lack of intelligence.
May point naman si Atty, maliit na detalye pero importante yun pwede naman syang mag intay until the next election. What's the rush, she's still a newbie politician.
Sus yung iba nga nandito daw sa Pinas pero hindi makapagsalita ng matatas na Pilipino. English dito english dun! Si Grace pati accent Pilipinong Pilipno!
1:33 It's the spirit of the law that's most important, not the letter of the law. Atty. Fortun should know that, but he chose to go on and on about a technicality.
simple at malinaw lng yung batas, dpt 10 years walang sinabing close to 10 years. parang ang senior citizens card lng, nakakita ka na ba n nabigyan ng card na 58 years old plang?maryosep!
isa pa, I think her husband and children are still all US Citizens. sige, iboto nyo yan, Uncle Sam citizen na mamuno sa bulok na bansang eto or better yet pasakop na lng tayo sa mga Americano, paligoy-ligoy pa eh!
I am not going to vote for Sen Grace Poe. I believe hindi pa siya ganoon "kahinog" to become Ph president. Kung honest at anti-corrupt na politician ang hinahanap natin as president, Sen Miriam and Duterte are better abd more experienced sa office kaysa kay grace poe.
Duterte na lang teh, i admire Miriam's intelligence and wit pero minsan sa sobrang talino, nababaliw, remember the "tatalon daw siya sa helicopter pag bumaba si Erap as president" or something to that effect? No i'd rather not a lunatic run this country amuck! LOL
Lumalakas ang panawagan na tumakbo si Duterte. Patunay na peace and order ang hangad ng nakararami. Kasunod nyan ang TUNAY na pag-unlad ng bansa natin. Unahin burahin ang mga pushers, adik, mga tiwaling law enforcers, at kurakot na mga salot ng lipunan!
halos lahat ng naging president nasobrahan sa experience sa sobrang galing na-master na ang technique of corruption.. Ang unang kailangan natin Presidente na may malasakit sa taong bayan!
12:14 that was what they said about Marcos, but look where Yellow tards brought us now, still the same projects of Marcos are continued, marami pa ring mahirap sa bansang eto, kung walang OFWs sa kangkungan tayu lahat pupulutin!
Sa mga butthurt fans dyan ni senator Grace, be objective about this. Me, personally, I like Grace Poe din (in contrast sa mga ibang pagpipilian). Pero oo nga, kung 10 years residency ang kelangan, dapat sundin na lang. Don't worry Senator, you will have my vote when that time comes. Good luck na nga lang satin given our current pool of candidates.
Grace Poe for President, Duterte for Vice President, or VICE VERSA! Sila na lang ang natitirang pag-asa ng bansang Pilipinas! Nasubukan na ang matatalino, nasubukan na ang eksperiensyado pero anong nangyari? Lalong lumubog ang Pilipinas! Iba iba lang porma ng pangungurakot! Naunahan pa tayo sa pag-unlad ng ibang bansa sa Asya na dating mas mahirap pa sa bansa natin! Bakit hindi naman natin subukan ang may magandang track record?
Grace Poe never lost her Filipino citizenship, she was a dual citizen by virtue of marriage, and she renounced the US citizenship prior to joining government service.
What a big disappointment. The way she is trying to wiggle out of it. The law may be harsh but it is the law. What's the rush anyways? She is quite young. There will be plenty of opportunities.
Maraming laws na makakabuti sa pabgkalahatan pero hindi naipatutupad ng maayos, lalo sa justice system. Kung sino ang may pera at impluwensya, sila lang ang nakakatikim ng hustisya! Bakit hindi yun ang pagtuunan ninyo ng pansin?!
parang si mr.palengke lng yan. ang press release malakas daw! pero nung eleksyon na, people opted to the candidate who has more experience and has proven his capacities to administer. i also like you grace poe but u think u still lack the experience how to run the phil. you are a senator. minimal exposure mo when it comes to administration. it could have been different if you are a mayor!
Susme anong experience ang pinagsasabi mo dyan? E ito ngang naka-upo ano ang experience? Magbilang ng butiki sa kisame ng kongreso at senado? May naipasa ba siyang batas? Puro co-author lang hahaha
I really really really really like you, do you like me too?
Our laws are slowly getting irrelevant, sometimes we have to bypass certain things for the greater good. Do you really think the length of residency is the measuring factor for one's patriotism? (Compared to those who have stayed in the country and his seat of power for his entire political life, and corrupted himself to his power and wealth). Please ponder upon it, I respect the law, but our country's in a critical point, and decades late from our neighbor country's progress.
10:57 am go challenge the law dear. Those laws exist for something. Your letter to Atty Fortune is irrelevant. One person could not change it sweetie . If the citizens learn how to be disciplined etc... The Philippines has a long way to go. There are other politicians that have integrity and have a clean track record too that can make things happen. :)
7:24 magkano teh? hahaha kanina ka pa ha...tumigil ka na sa kakachallenge mo teh! papuntahin mo na ang protector mo sa senado at ng masagot niya mga alegasyon laban sa kanya hahaha!
Di ba sabi ni Atty. Fortun na ayon sa constitution dapat yung magra-run ay may 10 years and above residency dito sa bansa because they know daw what ills this country and desire to be a catalyst of change... Eh bakit hanggang ngayon ganito pa din ang Pinas, palala lang ng palala... Wala naman nabago... Ganun pa din eh kung tutuusin lahat ng namuno eh dito na pinanganak at tumanda... Kaya I think di pa din batayan yung residency although nasa constitution kaya need talaga sundin....
Exactly mga tao dito kasi nadala sa dramaserye ginawa ng abs for grace poe.ano yan if maging pres.lahat ng gusto nya pwede nya gawin kahit bawal..same intention lng yan takot ang administration mawalan ng power next year.
Yes he is right . That is the law. The law must be enforced. What's another 4 years anyway ? The law can not be bend over to accommodate a single persons political ambition. Stop personally attacking Atty Fortun just because he is educating the public. If you have any legit issues please feel free to file a complaint to the bar association . :) huwag magpahalata t at kayo ay nakakatawa;)
The law is the law! Unconstitutional ang PDAF at DAP pero bakit nandyan pa rin? Bakit ipinagtatanggol pa rin ng gobyerno kahit dineclare na ng Supreme Court na unconstitutional ang mga ito? May pinipili ba ang batas?
Agree with you Anon 9:34. Pdaf and dap are source of corruption, then and now! Outright violation of the constitution iyan! Pero up to now pinagpipiyestahan pa rin ng mga buwitre! Lantarang pagnanakaw sa kaban ng bayan! Bakit hindi iyan ang i-challenge ng mga nagdudunong dunungan dito?
masyado pang newbie si Grace Poe para maging president maybe next election nalang, itatake advatange yan ng mga gusto gumamit sa kanya syempre since new nga si Grace mas need niya yung mga tao mas alam pasikot sikot. if gusto niya talaga mg president iprove niya muna na worth it siya kung gusto at malinis talaga intention niya para sa bansa. pero kung ginagawa niya lang talaga yan para sa partido or sulsol ng iba then wala siya pinagkaiba sa ibang politiko.
si Grace parang noynoy version 2 yan. same sila ginamit ang magulang nila para manalo.
Batas? Batas? Anong batas ang sinasabi nila? So bakit kapag sila ang hinahabol ng batas, wala silang pakialam. Pero ang bilis nilang gamitin ang batas kapag advantage sa kanila. Double standards yata yun.
Well, what's new? Malapit na talaga ang eleksyon!
ReplyDeleteMe humula dati years ago na ang pangatlong babae na presidente ng pilipinas ang magpapaunlad sa bansa natin.
DeleteHindi kaya si Grace Poe na yun???
eto ang abogado na wala namang alam at galing. panay hype lang. nakilala lang kasi naging abogado ni erap pero pu***l naman
Deletewag ng umasa dahil kahit umunlad ang pilipinas kung mas maraming ganid walang mangyayari. que 6 yrs resident palang si grace only in the phils mananalo pa din yan .. dahil marami ng imposibleng nagging posible sa pinas..
Delete3:31 am at mas may alam ka? He teaches in one of the prestigious university in the Philippines. Show us your license darling. Which law school did you graduate ? I hope you have the ability to take challenging cases? Really if you have issues about him and his practice go call the philippine bar , report him and get him disbarred.
Deleteactually, you don't have to live for at least 10 years to love the country, to show your love to your country. the moment she decided to drop her US citizenship, that's the time you can say that she love PH than US.
DeleteOne more thing, you also don't have to live in the PH for 10 years just to know what the f is the country's problem! maski tiga ibang bansa alam nila ang problema ng bansa kahit di sila tumira dito. ugh!
Si Grace may backbone hndi katulad ng isa dyan na iba ang nagdedesisyon para sa kanya!
DeleteNakikita ko kay Grace ang sincerity. I'll vote for her. Babawiin nya ang inagaw sa tatay nya at gagampanan nyang mabuti ang tungkulin if ever nma-elect sya!
DeleteIt's not about backbone it's about the law. P
DeleteGrace Poe/ Duterte FTW!
Delete7:04 what about DAP & PDAF? Law-ko law-ko?
DeleteHindi naman DAP & PDAF, kundi yung mga tumatanggap. Sino sino nga ba sila? CLUE: Yung 3 nakakulong na... LOL
Delete9:05 agree.
DeleteKahit siguro sino ang maupo pareho din. Dahil sa UTANG NA LOOB sa mayayaman at makapangyarihang negosyante na handang magbigay ng milyon milyong/bilyon campaign fund para manalo lang abg kandidatong tatanaw ng UTANG NA LOOB sa kanya/kanila! Pansariling interes lang, hindi interes ng sambayanang Pilipino!
ReplyDeletePatronage politics
DeleteAgree
DeleteBakit walang magawa ang gobyerno sa pagtaas ng kuryente na parang pinaglalaruan na lang ang consumers? Dahil sa utang na loob?
DeleteHawak ng mayayamang negosyante ang gobyerno ng Pilipinas! Kung ano ang idikta kailangan sunud sunuran. Kung hindi gagamitin ang salapi at impluwensya para patalsikin ang naka-upo! Nakakawalang pag-asa ang ganitong sistema!
Delete10% lang ng population ng Pinas ang mayayaman at yumayaman pa dahil sa utang na loob na yan!
Delete2:39 sadly true...
DeleteSige palakihin nila ng issue, mga tsimis, wagi pa rin si Grace Poe sa election.
ReplyDeleteIt's not tsismis sweetie it's a fact, the point there is she badly wants to run for office and trying to circumvent the law. She is not yet a president , how much more when she is in that position of power? Will she disregard it? What's the rush anyways?
DeleteSi Duterte sana ang runningmate! Landslide victory yan basta fair lang ang laban!
Deleteyou probably forgot, baka mukhang malinis at mabango pa siya kasi ala pa siyang masyadong experience in politics. they all go down that road, nagkakatalo na lng sa competence o kakayahan mamuno w/c she surely doesnt have in 3yrs experience as Senator!
Deleteo sige fortun! ikaw na
ReplyDeletemagaling! sino gusto mo umupo yung mga magnanakaw!!!
Yes! Ang gusto ni fortun doon sa kikita sya. The lawyer who loves money!
Delete10:32 pm true ba yan ateng? All lawyers or most people like money dearie. Services rendered need to be paid. If you have issues on how he practice his profession go to the bar association sweet pea. Bring all the legal documents to support your claim. He graduated from UP darling. Argue your point sweetie not character assassination. The issue as per Article viii section 2 the philippine constitution EXPLICITLY states the candidate needs to be a resident of the Phil for at least 10 years Immediately Preceding such election. If you don't understand it go seek a lawyer so you can understand it.
Delete1:40 hi atty fortun. Napacomment ka ah.
Delete1:40 Ang pinaka-importante dyan, sino ang hindi mandarambong at pinoy talaga sa puso at gawa?
DeleteEPAL naman tong si Fortun.
ReplyDeleteStyle mo Bulok.
Some lawyers argues that 10 years residency is not calculated prior to election.She resided in Manila since birth.
At least he has something sensible to say. How about you? No depth.
DeleteSO agree with this! PLUS, are we going to just be given politicians who have resided here since birth BUT have ill motives for their OWN COUNTRY? papansin lang tung si Fortun!
DeleteResidency, as regards election, in accordance with our laws and jurisprudence is synonymous with domicile. Domicile=physical presence+animus rivertendi (intent to return)+animus manendi (intent to remain). In our equation, however, Sen. Poe lacks physical(bodily) presence 10 yrs immediately preceding the election. So, Atty. Fortun has a point. We cannot bend the Constitution for a momentary response to a momentary problem because it's the supreme law.
DeleteBakit ba nagmamadali si Sen Poe maging presidente agad e newbie politician pa lang sya.
DeleteAnonymousJune 10, 2015 at 1:26 AM Tulog na KOWYA Fortun!
DeleteIsn't it that she stayed in Boston for college?
DeleteSen. Poe is a NATURAL BORN Citizen.
DeleteAnon 1:26 si poedito pinanganak hanggang nagdalaga, di pa ba physical yun? More than 10 years , physical presence. Wala ng question yan dapat since dito sya pinanganak at mga magulang nya for sure ay mga pinoy kahit iniwan sya sa loob ng simbahan.nakupo.
DeleteFoundling nga eh. Hindi alam kung sino ang magulang. Hindi alam kung saan ipinanganak. I just researched, ang vague naman ng 1935 Constitution regarding "Natural Born Citizens". I was going to argue na hindi imposibleng anak sya ng intsik, pinanganak sya sa Vietnam at iniwan sya sa simbahan after mamangka ng 3 araw sa dagat ang mga totoong magulang nya.
DeleteKahit pa ba "Foundling", meron paring Late Registry at puwede mong i-state dun na sa Pilipinas siya ipinanganak. Walang pinagkaiba yun sa normal na birth certificate.
DeleteHellooo! Ika nga ni Dean Tony La Viña, just like Cong. Imelda Marcos, yun Intent to Return is acceptable. And stop pretending Fortun that you are for Sen. Poe.
ReplyDeleteThat case of Marcos is factual. Basahin mabuti. And have you read that case? If not, shut up
DeleteRead before you comment. If you do not know the law shut up.
DeleteMarcos case is different honey as she never lost domicile and she did not acquire US citizenship she was forced to be on exile. While Grace acquired US citizenship and only renounced it when she got a government position. What if she did not get a government position would she renounce it? She filed some documents that stated her year of residence which is a legal document. Why bend the law there will be more elections to come?
Delete1:48 Grace never lost her Filipino citizenship. She acquired US citizenship by virtue of marriage to her US citizen husband but she remained a Filipino citizen thru the dual citizenship law. Besides, this is not a matter of citizenship but residency. And the SC is very clear, the declaration in the certificate of candidacy is not conclusive. If there are evidence to show that in fact you satisfy the residency requirement, then yung ang magma-matter. PLus animus revertendi is the rule. Plus, FACT is, she has been living here since here return when her father died. 2004 pa yun. Sobra na siyang 10 years.
DeleteI personally hate open letters. Parang nagpapasikat lang! He's a lawyer, do it the Legal way kung may reklamo sya.
ReplyDeleteKorek ! Ppansin lang tong abugado na to.. Eto ba yung tanda na naka braces pa? Yuk
Deleteagree
DeleteLam mo na si Fortun, feeling celebrity
DeleteTama ka Teh!
Deletepuro open letter bat ayaw nila magsampa ng reklamo, puro dakdak diba kung sabi ng law na hindi pwede so anu kinatatakot nyo atty?? Dahil ba sen grace can win the presidential bid
Deletey would he file a case? he is a lawyer and he is fully aware dat at dis point in time, der is no justiciable issue and actual controversy since election is just forthcoming.
DeleteI agree! Na sway Si Grace Poe! I like and will definitely vote for her but not in this coming election kso she's always nsa news. Araw araw nsa abs. Lol.
ReplyDeletekasi sino nman iupong presidente mag rereklamo at magrereklamo pa din mga tao. sana mga bago nlng lahat mahirap na pag tumakbo nnmn si E, bka palayain ang son at bf.
ReplyDeletebooom
ReplyDeleteMagkano kaya binayad sa kanya ng mga kalaban ni Grace Poe para ipost nya ito. This is all about money , isn't it , Mr. fortun?
ReplyDelete6:59 obviously, wag siyang magkaila...
DeleteSus!!! Umepal na naman tong lawyer nato...di naman marunong manindigan lalo't maraming komokontra sa kanya...remember nung maging isa sya sa "Most Bashed" and one of the most hated personality dahil sa pag-epal sa Vhong Navaro issue? #WalangPatol
ReplyDelete7:46 Please state your arguments based on the existing issue and not on a personal note. The law is the law. : basa muna pag may time philippine jurisprudence . Huwag maging mang mang ,
Deletenaku takot na sila kay se. grace poe...for sure talo kasi sila pag si grace ang tatakbong presidente..kung ano anong gImik ang naiisip...open letter naman ngayon..susme....bayaran ito ng kung sino mang future presidential canfidate...alam na...
ReplyDelete7:57 pm wrong argument the point there is about existing laws that grace is trying to circumnavigate . She is not only candidate that is worthy of that position . If without power you try to circumnavigate it what more if grace was in a position to do so?
DeleteAnong circumnavigate pinagsasabi mo diyan? She does not have to. She satisfies the residency! Bago ka magpapaniwala diyan kay Fortun, isipin mo muna kung anong credibility meron ang taong yan. Suggest ko sayo magbasa ka ng mga impartial opinion, yung mga tipo nila Prof. Sta. Maria na mga walang association sa politics.
Deleteatty fortun...tulog na..
Delete4:39 pm basa muna o punta ng library bago mag comment or complain to the philippine bar Kungali si atty fortun if not I challenge nila yan bukas ang korte para diyan . 5:10 is that all you can say sweetie as you have nothing intelligent to say . Oh well Kung diyan lang ang kaya ng utak mo .
Delete7:10 "sweetie-sweetie" ka dyan... ikaw ang parang hindi pilipino kung magsalita, sa totoo lang.
DeleteWhatever happen i will vote grace poe shes the best :)
ReplyDeleteOk she gets disqualified your vote is worthless, haha ha isip I sip pag May time. Does that make sense sweetie.
Delete12:16 Weh, if she is allowed to run by the Comelec, chances are the SC will not intervene. No way in hell will a winning presidential candidate be disqualified.It will be chaotic, thus any disqualification will be settled prior to the election. Besides, as soon as ma-declare na nanalo, it will be the SEnate Electoral Tribunal who will handle it. They will not risk catching the ire of the voters of a winning president.
DeleteOk fine....
ReplyDeletePhilippines is a hopeless case!
ReplyDeleteOkay, bye! I assume you're migrating?
DeleteYes, I did a long time ago.
DeleteAnon 9:31 Pahiya sweetie? Dakdak kasi ng dakdak. Lol.
DeleteI mean anon 2:35 not 9:31
DeleteMas gusto ko na yung hindi mag nanakaw na tumira sa ibang bansa kesa naman sa mag nanakaw na dito nakatira sa pinas. And please lang, huwag mo ng gamitin ang pangalan ni Lord sa mga patutsada mo. Alam nya kung ano ang mga kasalanan mo.
ReplyDeleteAgree. Yung ibang politicians na dito ipinanganak, nag-aral, at tumanda, nagpayaman lang nung naka-pwesto na!
Delete1:02 o di I challenge niyo ang batas:)
Deletemas gusto ko na yun kurakot basta maraming nagawa at napatunayan, kesa sa mga nagsasanta-santito dyan, pero puro palpak o wala nman kakayanan mamuno ng bansa! lahat yan, mga corrupt, nagtatalo na lng sa talino at kakayahan.
Delete4:38 mas gusto mo ng kurakot? taas-taasan naman ang standards...
Deleteatty... agendas? sure na?
ReplyDeletesawsaw pa fortun.. epal talaga
ReplyDelete12:01 bago ka rin umepal magbasa ka muna ng philippine jurisprudence. Since May time Kang mag comment May time ka ring Magbasa :)
DeleteIkaw din 12:34 basa ka din jurisprudence. Malinaw pa sa sikat ng araw ang sabi ng SC sa usaping residency. HIndi conclusive ang declaration sa cErtifcate of candidacy.
Delete4:38 pm feel free to challenge the law sweetie.:) I will wait for the outcome:) right or hanggang FP ka lang. I am waiting for you.
DeleteBURN 12:34 hahaha. Hindi porket lawyer si Fortun eh paniniwalaan mo na. Kaya nga delikado yang mga open letter na ganyan kasi madaming gullibe na naniniwala ng basta basta. And yes, epal talaga si Fortun at amoy na amoy naman na may bahid pulitika eh. In the end, COMELEC and the SC ang may final say diyan. So until then, manahimik nalang muna sila. Nagmumukha silang desperado to put Poe down ni hindi pa nga sya nagaannounce ng pagtakbo nya.
Delete4:28 you need to educate yourself the word preceding understand it ok , acquired us citizenship alamon mo rin yan , legal document stating that she became a resident intindihin mo rin yan. Haha philippine education system Ang daming b . Ay ewan god bless nalang the Philippines
Delete7:51 pm read the philippine constitution I do not take anything by face value or what anyone says as I am well too educated for that. But for an ignorant retard like you that's all you can say because in Tagalog hanggang diyan lang ang abot ng utak mo . That's why you are stuck in your little rat hole . Read what you are writing the way you try to justify things are based on personal attacks as you can not win your argument based on a specific law constitutional provision or rule sumisingaw across the world ang pagiging ignorante mo at ikaw ay isang mangmang.
DeleteAnonymousJune 10, 2015 at 7:13 PM Why would she/her need to challenge it? Si Fortun at ibang bayaran ang kumu-kwestyon sa residency ni Poe, di sila ang pumunta sa korte. The SC has already construed the Constitution and the applicable laws in a landmark decision. Animus Revertendi! Pero bakit nga ba makikipagdiscuss sa iyo "sweetie" eh makitid naman utak mo. Pag-aralan mo muna decision ng Supreme Court. Remind lang kita that they have the ultimate say on how the rules are to be construed.
DeleteA person doesn't need to live in the Philippines for 10 years in order to know what ills it.
ReplyDeletePa facial at diamond peel ka muna bago ka umepal "mister" Fortun.
how mature.
DeleteOMG! That's exactly I was supposed to comment. Ganito na lang,...I SECOND THE MOTION!!! ;)
Delete12:10 am ok file a case and challenge the law. The philippine judicial system's door is waiting for you , the doors are wide open . :)
DeleteWhere is your law degree darling? The epal thing speaks volumes about your uneducated and ignorant self.
DeleteI agree with you. However, the law is clear that one of the qualifications of the President of the Philippines is that he/she should have resided in the Philippines for at least 10 years prior to the date of his election. That is what the Constitution, the highest law of the land, says. It must be followed. Otherwise, push for charter change.
DeleteHoy darling,kanina ka pa rin nagsasagot! La ka magawa teh?
DeleteOo nga, haha! Halos lahat ng di pro-Fortun comment sinasagot. Alam na this. Haha!
DeletePati yung nagtanong lang if may credibility pa si Fortun, kung ano na sinabi. Katawa.
1:46 hahaha napansin mo rin? pansin na pansin ko yan kanina pa hahaha! ang mga bayaran talaga nagtitiyagang sagutin lahat ng against k atty. bakit di ninyo papuntahin sa senado ang protector ninyo at doon sagutin ang mga alegasyon laban sa kanya,
DeleteHahaha kanina pa siya. Kung hindi sweetie, darling. Tapos lahat ng anti fortun sasabihan niya ng challenge the law. Hahahahaha teh kamag anak ka ni fortun? Affiliated yata, may hugot ang pagcocomment. Sa lahat nagrereply
Deleteayaw ko na kay Grace Poe, lalo na sa mga pulitiko. wala naman matinong politiko! baguhin na ang gobyerno! grabe lahat sila kurakot!
ReplyDeleteIkaw na kaya pumalit! LOL
DeleteMeron pang pag-asa...kay duterte. Peace and order muna and everything will fall into place.
DeleteMe credibility pa ba yang si Raymond Fortun?
ReplyDeleteWell, mag-file ka ng petition sa Bar Association if you think he has none, diba? LOL
DeleteAnon 2:35 pano mo nasabi kung ano nasa isip nya eh nagtatanong nga sya ng opinyon? enroll enroll din para ma-improve reading comprehension mo.
Delete9:18 I don't think it's 2:35 who has a reading comprehension but you do. P
DeleteOo nga 9:16 sagot kasi ng sagot mahina naman umintindi.
Delete7:17 enroll enroll din. poor construction of english sentence.
Delete7:17 at sino maniniwala sa sinasabi mo eh pati nga ikaw di makabuo ng maayos na english sentence. kuda ng kuda.
Delete2:20 am and 2:16 am both of you are way off the mark . Am I writing an essay here that's graded? Why don't you try writing in English and I will have my team grade it for you? Really ? What's your level of education? I do have an MBA and English proficiency certificate that shows a perfect score. Oh well people like you in vernacular hanggang diyan lang ang kayang maabot. Please take care of your sorry pathetic lives. :) :) stick to the issue , idiots ! The last time I check it's about jurisprudence not the character of Atty Fortun or the people who begged to disagree with your ignorance. :)P
Delete2:16 at 2:20 ha ha ha my friend 7:17 presides board meetings . Shame on you.Since when was fashion pulis a graded essay? He was bored in the party and decided to kill time by going through the articles in fashion pulis. Eh kayo Anong na tapos ninyo? Stick with the issue. Oh well, I guess there is nothing you can do about someone's lack of intelligence.
DeleteMay point naman si Atty, maliit na detalye pero importante yun pwede naman syang mag intay until the next election. What's the rush, she's still a newbie politician.
ReplyDeleteAgree. Duterte for 2016.
DeleteAgree din po ako. Next election na muna sya to earn more experience. For now, Duterte!
DeleteDuterte FTW
DeleteSus yung iba nga nandito daw sa Pinas pero hindi makapagsalita ng matatas na Pilipino. English dito english dun! Si Grace pati accent Pilipinong Pilipno!
Delete1:08 pm it's not the issue:)
Delete1:33 It's the spirit of the law that's most important, not the letter of the law. Atty. Fortun should know that, but he chose to go on and on about a technicality.
DeleteAno difference ng 8 or 10 years? By 2016 9 years or close to 10 year na yung Grace poe sa pinas. Maryosep!
ReplyDeletesimple at malinaw lng yung batas, dpt 10 years walang sinabing close to 10 years.
Deleteparang ang senior citizens card lng, nakakita ka na ba n nabigyan ng card na 58 years old plang?maryosep!
2:19 am because it's the law. :)
Deleteisa pa, I think her husband and children are still all US Citizens. sige, iboto nyo yan, Uncle Sam citizen na mamuno sa bulok na bansang eto or better yet pasakop na lng tayo sa mga Americano, paligoy-ligoy pa eh!
DeleteI am not going to vote for Sen Grace Poe. I believe hindi pa siya ganoon "kahinog" to become Ph president. Kung honest at anti-corrupt na politician ang hinahanap natin as president, Sen Miriam and Duterte are better abd more experienced sa office kaysa kay grace poe.
ReplyDeleteHindi pa sya ganun kahinog para mangurakot!! eh sino ang gusto mong iboto?
DeleteDuterte na lang teh, i admire Miriam's intelligence and wit pero minsan sa sobrang talino, nababaliw, remember the "tatalon daw siya sa helicopter pag bumaba si Erap as president" or something to that effect? No i'd rather not a lunatic run this country amuck! LOL
DeleteAgree ako sayo klasmeyt!
DeleteLumalakas ang panawagan na tumakbo si Duterte. Patunay na peace and order ang hangad ng nakararami. Kasunod nyan ang TUNAY na pag-unlad ng bansa natin. Unahin burahin ang mga pushers, adik, mga tiwaling law enforcers, at kurakot na mga salot ng lipunan!
Deletehalos lahat ng naging president nasobrahan sa experience sa sobrang galing na-master na ang technique of corruption.. Ang unang kailangan natin Presidente na may malasakit sa taong bayan!
Delete12:14 that was what they said about Marcos, but look where Yellow tards brought us now, still the same projects of Marcos are continued, marami pa ring mahirap sa bansang eto, kung walang OFWs sa kangkungan tayu lahat pupulutin!
Delete12:14 tumpak!
DeleteSa mga butthurt fans dyan ni senator Grace, be objective about this. Me, personally, I like Grace Poe din (in contrast sa mga ibang pagpipilian). Pero oo nga, kung 10 years residency ang kelangan, dapat sundin na lang. Don't worry Senator, you will have my vote when that time comes. Good luck na nga lang satin given our current pool of candidates.
ReplyDeleteDuterte na lang, the only viable option...
DeleteGrace Poe for President, Duterte for Vice President, or VICE VERSA! Sila na lang ang natitirang pag-asa ng bansang Pilipinas! Nasubukan na ang matatalino, nasubukan na ang eksperiensyado pero anong nangyari? Lalong lumubog ang Pilipinas! Iba iba lang porma ng pangungurakot! Naunahan pa tayo sa pag-unlad ng ibang bansa sa Asya na dating mas mahirap pa sa bansa natin! Bakit hindi naman natin subukan ang may magandang track record?
DeleteHindi na counted noong time na pinanganak si Grace sa Pilipinas? Hay naku!
ReplyDeletePero she became an American citizen. Ano yun????porke dito siya bumebenta,dito na uli siya??Wow ha!
ReplyDeleteGrace Poe never lost her Filipino citizenship, she was a dual citizen by virtue of marriage, and she renounced the US citizenship prior to joining government service.
DeleteI will definitely vote for Ms. Grace Poe!
ReplyDeletehay fortun again.. tagapagtanggol ng mga masasama..
ReplyDeleteDuterte na wag ng mar wag ng Poe vote straight for duterte
ReplyDeleteAmerican citizen po yang si Grace Por.Nirenounce niya ang Filipino Citizenship niya!
ReplyDeleteWeh? Dual citizenship teh, alam mo? Plus nagdenounce na siya ng American Citizenship, matagal na. Kaya nga naging Senator di ba?
DeleteMy gulay, wag ka na bumoto 6:32 kung ganyan ka mag-isip!
Delete8:09 ikaw friend ang dapat Hindi bumoto, grow some brains first
DeleteThe law is the law! Ay pano si cheezy ? Hahaa! Quick cheezy dumikit ka naman sa ibang bread.
ReplyDeleteWhat a big disappointment. The way she is trying to wiggle out of it. The law may be harsh but it is the law. What's the rush anyways? She is quite young. There will be plenty of opportunities.
ReplyDeleteMaraming laws na makakabuti sa pabgkalahatan pero hindi naipatutupad ng maayos, lalo sa justice system. Kung sino ang may pera at impluwensya, sila lang ang nakakatikim ng hustisya! Bakit hindi yun ang pagtuunan ninyo ng pansin?!
DeleteTrue!
ReplyDeleteparang si mr.palengke lng yan. ang press release malakas daw! pero nung eleksyon na, people opted to the candidate who has more experience and has proven his capacities to administer. i also like you grace poe but u think u still lack the experience how to run the phil. you are a senator. minimal exposure mo when it comes to administration. it could have been different if you are a mayor!
ReplyDeleteSusme anong experience ang pinagsasabi mo dyan? E ito ngang naka-upo ano ang experience? Magbilang ng butiki sa kisame ng kongreso at senado? May naipasa ba siyang batas? Puro co-author lang hahaha
DeleteI agree with Atty. Fortun, sana di mag pa dala si Grace Poe sa mga sumusolsol sa kanya.
ReplyDeleteDear Mr. Fortun,
ReplyDeleteI really really really really like you, do you like me too?
Our laws are slowly getting irrelevant, sometimes we have to bypass certain things for the greater good. Do you really think the length of residency is the measuring factor for one's patriotism? (Compared to those who have stayed in the country and his seat of power for his entire political life, and corrupted himself to his power and wealth). Please ponder upon it, I respect the law, but our country's in a critical point, and decades late from our neighbor country's progress.
10:57 am go challenge the law dear. Those laws exist for something. Your letter to Atty Fortune is irrelevant. One person could not change it sweetie . If the citizens learn how to be disciplined etc... The Philippines has a long way to go. There are other politicians that have integrity and have a clean track record too that can make things happen. :)
DeleteTama ka, ideally. Sadly kailangan muna ng charter change para mabago na ang very outdated na Saligang Batas.
DeleteThumbs up sa comment mo po!
Delete7:24 teh tama na. Nakailang challenge ka na dyan..... hahahahahahahaha
Delete7:24 magkano teh? hahaha kanina ka pa ha...tumigil ka na sa kakachallenge mo teh! papuntahin mo na ang protector mo sa senado at ng masagot niya mga alegasyon laban sa kanya hahaha!
Deleteno such thing as agendas! haller
ReplyDeleteDi ba sabi ni Atty. Fortun na ayon sa constitution dapat yung magra-run ay may 10 years and above residency dito sa bansa because they know daw what ills this country and desire to be a catalyst of change... Eh bakit hanggang ngayon ganito pa din ang Pinas, palala lang ng palala... Wala naman nabago... Ganun pa din eh kung tutuusin lahat ng namuno eh dito na pinanganak at tumanda... Kaya I think di pa din batayan yung residency although nasa constitution kaya need talaga sundin....
ReplyDeleteDuterte for President!
ReplyDeleteWE second the motion!
DeleteSorry, but Senator Fortun has a POINT. sworn declaratin po un and now she's trying to bend it.
ReplyDeleteExactly mga tao dito kasi nadala sa dramaserye ginawa ng abs for grace poe.ano yan if maging pres.lahat ng gusto nya pwede nya gawin kahit bawal..same intention lng yan takot ang administration mawalan ng power next year.
DeleteFYI, gumawa rin ng drama serye for JPE. Anyare???
Deletefirst line ni atorni, akala ko mgppropose! hahaha!
ReplyDeleteAtty. Fortun, if you really like her you shouldn't have done this publicly. Pa-PR si atty!
ReplyDeleteYes he is right . That is the law. The law must be enforced. What's another 4 years anyway ? The law can not be bend over to accommodate a single persons political ambition. Stop personally attacking Atty Fortun just because he is educating the public. If you have any legit issues please feel free to file a complaint to the bar association . :) huwag magpahalata t at kayo ay nakakatawa;)
ReplyDeleteThe law is the law! Unconstitutional ang PDAF at DAP pero bakit nandyan pa rin? Bakit ipinagtatanggol pa rin ng gobyerno kahit dineclare na ng Supreme Court na unconstitutional ang mga ito? May pinipili ba ang batas?
Delete9:34 MAY POINT KA! Walang batas batas sa mga kurakot na yan! Lawmakers are law breakers!
Deleteanon 9:34 ganda ng arguments mo! Paki-sagot mga law-ko law-ko! Lol
DeleteAgree with you Anon 9:34. Pdaf and dap are source of corruption, then and now! Outright violation of the constitution iyan! Pero up to now pinagpipiyestahan pa rin ng mga buwitre! Lantarang pagnanakaw sa kaban ng bayan! Bakit hindi iyan ang i-challenge ng mga nagdudunong dunungan dito?
DeletePDAP nauso sa panahonni Cory. DAP sa panahon ni Pnoy. Haist!
DeleteWalang batas sa mga gutom na buwaya!
DeleteI-challenge ni darling at sweetie ang pagiging unconstitutional ng PDAF at DAP, bago ang citizenship ni Grace Poe! Magsama sama kayo ni Atty. Fortun!
DeleteStyle mo fortun!
ReplyDeleteIm fan chu chu style tapos bash!
6:46 hi hi hi
Deletemasyado pang newbie si Grace Poe para maging president maybe next election nalang, itatake advatange yan ng mga gusto gumamit sa kanya syempre since new nga si Grace mas need niya yung mga tao mas alam pasikot sikot. if gusto niya talaga mg president iprove niya muna na worth it siya kung gusto at malinis talaga intention niya para sa bansa. pero kung ginagawa niya lang talaga yan para sa partido or sulsol ng iba then wala siya pinagkaiba sa ibang politiko.
ReplyDeletesi Grace parang noynoy version 2 yan. same sila ginamit ang magulang nila para manalo.
Batas? Batas? Anong batas ang sinasabi nila? So bakit kapag sila ang hinahabol ng batas, wala silang pakialam. Pero ang bilis nilang gamitin ang batas kapag advantage sa kanila. Double standards yata yun.
ReplyDelete2:03 oo nga. parang "walang batas-batas para sa akin. pero itong technicality ibubuhos ko sa 'yo."
Deletepaano pag nanalo si grace poe...ung First Family...siya lng ang Filipino Citizen...asawa at anak nya US Citizens...
ReplyDeleteExactly, malaking kalokohan nga if she wins. Kawawang Pinas, pinamumunuan ng dayuhan.
DeleteThey've denounced it. Bumuto na nga.
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