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Dear FashionPulis,
Yesterday (March 13, 2015), I sent my daughters to school (Liceo de Cagayan University) and after making sure that they are inside their respective class rooms, I took a trip to the comfort room. When I was about to exit the comfort room, I noticed students shouting something from the outside. Right there and then, I stepped outside (the comfort room has an exit that leads to the back of the building) to check what was happening, and to my surprise, I saw students on the third floor cleaning their classroom. If you can see the photos, the students are standing on a very unsafe ledge. I think even construction workers need to wear harness for this kind of job. These students are young and naive and they do not realize how dangerous this can be.
This school is rather prestigious here in Cagayan de Oro. I do not think the parents are aware that the lives of their children are in danger while they are in school. I am sure they all think that their children's teachers are taking good care of them.
My question to this school is why are the students allowed to even go outside? This photo was taken around nine in the morning when classes were ongoing, and again I ask, where are their teachers? We do not pay more than PhP 40,000 a year just to put the lives of our children in danger!
Yours truly,
Cris Dina
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40K plus a year and the school looks like that? someone is making a killing over tuition fees #kumikitangkabuhayan
ReplyDeleteI am a Kagay-anon. Unfortunately for the letter sender, I have to refute the "prestigious" claim. Liceo is anything but prestigious. You end up in Liceo because Ateneo de Cagayan does not want you. Period. You graduate from Liceo even if you can barely weave an elementary sentence and ang kawawang mga parents think theyre paying prime money for their kids futures.
DeleteAnon 3:07 that's what I thought, too...
DeleteAgree 3:07 am.
Delete3:07 EH DI IKAW NA. ANG YABANG MO NMN!!
DeleteAnon 3:07 that's not the point. Kahit sinong minor, saan mang eskwela, hindi dapat nilalagay sa peligro nang ganyan. Ang layo ng reaction mo sa real issue.
Deletenababayaran mga teachers dyan pra pumasa ks. even their college.
DeleteAnon 3:07am: opinion ko lang po pero ang pinag-uusapan dito is the safety of the school children not whether the school is prestigious or not. The mere fact the A parent could send their child/children to school whether they are paying above or below P40k is an achievement so let them say that they are sending their kids to a "prestigious" school coz not everyone could afford or even send their kids to any school for the matter.
DeleteAnon 3:07, this has nothing to do with being prestigious or not, this has to do with parents paying tuition to send their children to school to learn and to NOT clean windows period!! This should be investigated! I am a parent and seing this makes me furious! what if something happens to my child, who's going to be responsible??!!
DeleteYour point is not relevant. The concern here is about safety.
Delete"Ateneo de Cagayan does not want you"? Ha! As if students are clamoring to sign up for that school, or any school in Cagayan for that matter.
Deletewhat's the issue here, ung safety ng students or pagiging prestigious ng school?
DeleteThe issue here is not about prestige. Who cares if the school is prestigious or not! The issue here is ensuring the protection of the students against danger. Just look at the photos, and that's where the focus of the argument should be.
DeleteAnon 3:07, tumpak! Liceo is not prestigious at all. For lack of a better word, tambakan jan. There sre rumors that round the city that you can pass a subject by paying the teacher.
DeleteTalagang ang pinansin ang yung "prestigious" imbes na yung issue. Kayabangan 101!
Delete@3:07 So does your kayabangan justifies putting the poor children's lives in danger?
Delete@3:07 Your "elementary sentences" make me think you graduated from Liceo as well.
Delete@3:07 @11:40 so ibig nyo sabihin kng ang school ndi prestigious, okay lng ibuwis buhay ng mga estudyante? Kasi ang complain ni sender yung safety, ndi ipaglaban kng prestigious ang school
Delete3:07 i did not know that if one is studying in ateneo, he/she will have have a "so much pride" kind of attitude that will look down other people.(which the way you comment shows).
DeleteInstead of ateneo producing a humble and concerned citizen.
3:07 I wish Xavier admitted you.
Deletewhere's the bitterness coming from anon 1043? Maybe you didn't pass your CSAT/ATCU/OLGSAT no? Kaloka. The issue here is the safety of those children, bakit nagkagulo lahat sa "prestigious"? Pakiexplain!
DeleteOk fine sa prestigious factor. But i will not pay 40k just to see my kid cleaning windows sa delikadong sitwasyon. Kung anak ko yan na nakita ko at that moment, baka nahulog puso ko sa kaba.
DeleteNakita naman siguro ni 3:07 yung ginawang points ng letter sender which are:
Delete1.) About sa safety ng mga bata
2.) yung claim ng magulang na prestigious yung school.
Hindi sinabi ni 3:07 na tama paglinisin yung mga bata o wala siyang concern sa safety ng students.
Yung ginawa lang ni 3:07 is nagfocus sya sa later.
Wala siyang sinabing mali, unless prestigious talaga yung school
ay naku, trademark na yan ng mga taga Ateneo kahit saang lupalop dito sa Pinas, maaangas at ma-eere! kala mu kaganda nang school facilities, puro pagyayabang lang, talo-talong nga kayu nun dalawa sa Top3 schools eh.
Deleteang pangit naman ng window ng school...
DeleteAng pangit ng school ha.
DeleteLiceo is not a prestigious school. It's a private school but the students are cleaning their classrooms like public school do. Also there is no academic freedom and freedom of speech in liceo. Students are trained like robots and not as an individual person.
DeleteWag nyo naman pong i-generalize ang mga taga Ateneo as "maaangas" and "maeere". Dahil lahat po ng schools ay meron talagang maangas at mabait. My point is, hindi lahat estudyante sa Ateneo ay puro maangas at 'ma-ere'
DeleteAnon 3:07
DeleteHonestly speaking also not bragging, but I'm a student of Ateneo de Cagayan. Studying in Liceo doesn't mean ADC doesn't want you... It could be the destination, which is ADC in this particular topics, might be far from where they live or they just wanted to go to school to Liceo. People have their own options, a lot of people really look at Ateneo de Cagayan this way which makes a lot of us uncomfortable, so please don't. Liceo is indeed a prestigious school, I've heard some good news from them. ADC itself has some bad sides involving major issues, so don't just go assuming, which in this case looks so. Also your point, is a bit out of topic.
OMG!
ReplyDeletepag nalaglag ang girls kaya ba nila bayaran ng 40million yan?
seriously? Ang taas nyan ha!
Seriously, anong lilinisin ng mga bata? Nakapintura ang bintana! Hmm di kaya nagttrip ang mga bata, usually dare dare?
Deletewala pong presyo buhay ng tao
DeleteAnon10:01 Feeling ko kasalanan ni Class President yan!
DeleteLOL @ 9:18
Deletehahaha kawawa naman si Class president .
pag bintangan agad na sipsip? LOL
By the way, I would like to define that a prestigious school always looks after the safety of the students over and above academic gains.
DeleteBat kelangan sa FP isumbong bat di ka dumirecho sa principal's office the moment na nakita mo to?Kung talagang concern ka sa safety ng students bat inuna mo pa magpicture? FYI di ako mayari ng school na yan, simpleng tao lang ako na gumagamit ng common sense.
ReplyDeletekorek..feel lng nya magsumbong at sumikat sa FP.. or sana na mention man lng nya n nakausap nya ang principal ng school kaso d nman nya nbngit..
DeleteYou think when they bring this case to the principal's office they'll admit a lack in their institution's judgment? They won't. They need pressure and to be exposed to straighten their acts.
DeletePinost dito sa fashion pulis para magka alam din tayo. ano ba! ako nga hindi ako aware may ganto palang ganap.
DeleteFirst, kung mag sumbong sya she needs evidence so needed ang picture. Who knows kinausap nya ang principal after that. 2nd, madaming followers si FP, so madaming magiging aware!
DeleteI am thankful and I prefer that the parents reveal this to the media also. Other parents need to be aware of the dangers their children face in their schools.
Deletesana nag-reach out muna sa authorities. as a parent, you could have stopped the act since nandun kana naman sa site.
DeleteDon't be too naive. Alam ng principal ang nangyayari at lalong alam ng mga teachers pero walang kumikibo. Kulang sa janitor or ayaw magbayad ng janitor. Kapag nagsumbong ka sa principal eh walang mangyayari at sasabihin pang nanggugulo ka lang. Sa mga panahong ito, mas mabuti nang sa social media ka magsumbong para maalarma ang mga kinauukulan at makagawa agad ng solusyon. Pag sa principal o teacher ka lumapit eh aabutin pa ng siyam siyam at red tape at bago silang mag decide eh baka may nahulog na. Kaya tama lang na i-post agad sa social media para lahat ng kinauukulan eh matakot at maalarma agad. I'm sure aakyson agad sila at walang buhay ang malalagay sa panganib. Maraming mga magulang na ang nagsusumbong sa mga problema ng mga estudyante na umaabot pa sa Dept. of Education pero naka-graduate na ang mga bata at lahat eh walang naresolba sa reklamo. Parang hindi kayo sanay sa uri ng gobyerno at pamamalakad meron sa Pilipinas.
Deleteshe already probably went to the principals ofc but do you think she will be heard knowing na may school consent yan? hindi yan lalabas dahil biased na yan.. FP sure kang lalabas ang mababasa ng marami
Deletenaku...sa highschool department pa lang yan. try nyo tingnan ang college dept nila. the riverbank school.
ReplyDeleteNothing has changed. I went to an all girls private school in the 70's and the nuns would make us clean the classrooms, hallways etc. Character building daw! I saw it as free labor but you did as you're told para walang demerit.
ReplyDeleteTrue! Yan din naabutan k. Iba na kasi panahon ngayon kya big deal na sa knila yan ngayon.
DeleteThat's not really the point. The letter sender is worried about the safety of the kids.
DeleteOk lang turuan silang maglinis sa loob ng classroom lalo na sa mga tamad na bata but not to the point na paakpaakyatin na building para maglinis ng bintana horrors!
Deletei also came fr an exclusive catholic school run by sisters / nuns pero nvr kami pinaglinis... mmm
DeletePinapag varnish pa nga kami ng chairs in the exclusive school I attended for a long time. Okay lang yun, pati maglinis, pero in an unsafe environment such as that ledge, unacceptable talaga yan.
DeleteFYI wala naman sigurong teachers ang papayag na mag linis ang kanilang estudyante lalong lalo na sa ledge nayan na napaka delikado baka it's the students problem na hindi kaya sumunod sa mga pinag babawal sa school klaro namang delikado kapag lalabas ka sa window eh. And please, dont judge the school by how dirty the window is , Liceo de Cagayan University excelled in many various fields and produces products that are equiped with its core values.
Deletesad!
ReplyDeleteMagbayad pa ng tuition para gawing katulong? They are there to learn not to clean. Sa bahay nila sila maglinis. Jologs school.
ReplyDeletethe cleaning is part of PE?
ReplyDeletenope, its talent showcase
DeleteHahahhahahahah panalo!
DeleteHay naku! Maraming hindi naka-hula ng BI kaya lahat naging cleaners. #yunlangyon
ReplyDeleteHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Deletehahahaha oo nga baka di nila nahulaan ang BI kaya ayan cleaners sila. yung mga asa loob ng classroom yung nkahula.
DeleteHahaha pak na pak!
DeleteHahaaha tumpak
DeleteHahahahs
DeleteLOL kalokha ka!
DeleteBakla ka! Kaloka ang comment mo day. Pero totoo nahirapan ako sa BI ni FP. Kaya makikijoin ako sa mga kapwa ko row4 na maglinis ng bintana!
Deletenakakaloka! 😂😂😂 winner ka baks. LOL
DeleteBat di kunin side ng school or ng teacher? Mukhang dameng from CDO d2 db so ask nyo kaya side nila kesa kung anu ano pinagsasabe nyo!
Delete@ 8.03, back to Row 10...
DeletePara kung hindi maka hanap ng trabaho after graduation puwede mag-apply na kasambahay. Back-up o alternative career planning yan.
ReplyDeleteAng totoo kz po tpos n finals kya pra my mgawa pinglilinis n lng sila habang bz mgcompute at mgdoctor ang mga tchers ng grades ng mga bata #realitybites
ReplyDeleteWTF??? Manang, this is not the right venue to raise your concern. If you are truly concerned for this students, you should have gone out of the CR, went to their classroom and talked to their adviser/moderator.
ReplyDeleteBut instead, you had a moment of great epiphany in the CR about the amount of tutition you are paying. Your questions about why they are there will not be answered by commenters here, and could have been better addressed by the admin of Liceo.
agree
DeleteFeeling ko natatakot ung sender kasi baka paginitan yung anak nya s school baka di din yan real name ng sender
DeleteIf it's really a prestigious school, students do not have to clean their classrooms. And if ever they have to, no one cleans classrooms at 9am in the morning. I think, these students are there without the teachers' knowledge.
ReplyDeleteWrite the school administration. Wrong channel.
ReplyDeleteP*****-**a!
ReplyDeleteLetter sender u should go to principal/deped pero ok din dinaan mo sa social media para mataranta sila kasi minsan kapag di mo dinadaan sa ganto, pabalik balikin ka lang nyan.. Pero private skul yan why no janitor? Graduate ako sa private skul maliit kang tuition q dun pero me janitor kami :)
ReplyDeleteThe school has janitors and maintenance. This kind of case should not include the school but instead the students. The school has rules and regulations and the students didn't abide with that rules. Maybe not blame anyone or any school with this case but instead, do something rather than posting in social media. You are not caring for the safety, you're bringing down an institution. Just saying, no bad feelings.
DeleteI went to a public school and was remember my parents paid for a penny. We usually had cleaners everyday and yes we do some chores inside school, we've had a third floor too and the teachers does not want us to clean those area but rather janitors of the school for safety reasons.
ReplyDeleteWhaaaat? -.-
DeleteWhaaaaat -.-
DeleteWhat what
Deletefor you to send your concern here, the school board must be reading fp thread alot
ReplyDeleteShowbiz si letter sender e
DeleteMas ok s fp magsumbong mpapansin ng media, e kung sa skul ka alyansa cla ng pagpapalinis nyan.
ReplyDeleteMas ok s fp mas pansin ng media. Go fp!
ReplyDeleteOk naman paglinisin ang mga bata, para matuto sila sa mga ganyan gawain at responsibilidad, pero unahin dapat safety ng mga bata. Hindi sila dapat naglilinis na maendanger ang buhay nila. Naalala ko pa dati pakingtaban pa nga ng floor.
ReplyDeleteLetter sender may proper channels para sa issue na to. If you are truly concerned sa safety ng mga students e di tumuloy ka na sana sa director's office andyan ka na lang din naman sa school. Kaso dinaan mo sa social media aba ate ang tanging concern mo lang sumikat sa likod ng pangalang Cris Dina.
ReplyDeletei finished my masters in liceo. medjo mahal nga. but the issue should be the safety not the money..
ReplyDeleteAng hirap umintindi ng ibang mga tao dito. Safety ng mga bata ang pinag uusapan., May kukuda about 'Prestigious' daw ba ang school? mas dun pa nag react kesa sa totoong issue. Yung mga nagsasabi naman why dito sa FP? Tingin nyo ba pag hindi nilabas sa social media yan may gagawing action ang admin ng school? Parang bayan patroller lang din naman yan tulad sa tv patrol. I'm sure nareklamo na yan sa principal's office pero walang nangyari. Sana wag mangyari sa mga anak nyo o kamag-anak nyo ang ganyang eksena sabay ma aaksidente dahil sigurado hindi lang kayo sa social media mag rereklamo.
ReplyDeleteTeh... wala kaming kamag anak sa Liceo. Hahahahha kasi nga alam namin ganyan nila tratuhin mga estudyante nila. "Prestigious" eh
DeleteThis is not old news. March is the "clearance season". Wayback highschool we'd have to make kiskis and repaint our chairs before we get our clearance signed and take the finals.
ReplyDeleteSA LEDGE NG BUILDING TEH?
DeleteBut not to the point na buwis buhay! Kahit na ba ginusto nila yan, di dapat payagan! Eh mga bata yan pano kung mapagtripan isa dyan tas mahulog?
DeleteDapat nakabantay ang teacher habang naglilinis ang students. Kung may teacher dyan that time at hinayaan lang, or worse sya pa nag-utos, aba dapat sibakin na yan! Mygad ang scary nyan oh. Matapilok lang si ate hulog na.
DeleteThe school is not prestigious. The school is known for teachers being paid in order to pass.. however, no school should be allowed to expose students' lives at risk.
ReplyDeleteI know about 4 people who openly admitted to paying their teachers to pass.
DeleteTotoo yan. Im from Cagayan de Oro and I can testify na nababayaran yung mga teachers ng LDCU. I have a friend na jan pumapasok (college) nag iipon xa ng pera at the end of semester para may pang bayad/libre xa sa mga professor nya.Yung isa nga binigyan nya lang ng bola (spalding ball) may grade na xa (NG kasi xa kaya request ng teacher na bili xa ng bola para bigyan xa ng grade). Instant uno yung grade nya!
Delete(Ayyy ako pala yun) hahahahha #tsada
Jan ako nag aral nung 2001-2002.. hindi nmn kami pinapalinis noon. Maayos yang school na yan
ReplyDeleteI agree. I studied for a short time there, before we had to move to another city. Very good security system. Strict policies. I can definitely attest that standing on the ledge is bawal. I'm sure the student did that on their own. Baka lumabas lang sandali ang teacher. Umepal kaagad si complainant. And yes, mahal ang tuition. Pero okay naman ang environment. Safe, good neighborhood. Xavier/Ateneo high is up in the hill. Ang layo.
DeleteNdi nga, kamusta naman yung mga bayaran na pinipick up lang sa gate? Nka uniform pa. Hahahhaha
DeleteNi hindi nga ginagawa yan ng mga students sa public school eh! Dapat report agad sa DepEd yan!
ReplyDeleteThis is not acceptable! Imagine kng anak mo yan! we are working hard to send our children to a good school tas malalaman mo nalang na pinapalinis lang pala ng mga bintana at worse sa ledge pa ng 3rd floor?!? Dapat kontakin ang admin nyan pati na deped.
ReplyDeleteChill people!! The commenter just reacted to the word "prestigious". Correcting it lang. The truth is, anyone from Cagayan would have the same reaction because of the school's reputation. Here, infamous yang school na yan. Dami niyong kuda
ReplyDeleteKorek! Read between the lines. Graduate ba kayo ng Liceo? Bat ndi nyo na gets na correction lang yun?
DeleteI'm a Kagayanon, too. I also have a problem with the way that person arrogantly presented his/her correction. I went to Xavier, but i have friends who went to Liceo because they prefer the non-sectarian system, not because "ateneo de cagayan" does not want them. And sino ba yung nang correct na yun? Vanguard of prestigiousness? Expert? Mayabang kamo siya.
DeleteWhen you state a fact, mayabang ka na. When you're anapologetic of what you have, mayabang ka na. Chaka pwede ba walang prestigious na school sa probinsya no!
DeletePwede bang mapost tong article na ito sa FB account ng school nato? Nagsearch ako sa FB at may official account sila. Thanks!
ReplyDeleteSobrang delikado.Di pwede sa MATAAS na paaralan yan.
ReplyDeleteAng daming comment na nakikigulo lang. Are you sure 40K above tlga tuition?
ReplyDeleteHindi naman ata ganun kamahal. Baka sinama nya payment ng books sa 40K. Ateneo, St. Mary's, Oro Christian and Lourdes Highschool hindi umaabot ng ganyan kalaki kapag high school na. Only if you are a graduating student kaya tumataas ang rate.
DeleteBaka naman pinag-general cleaning sila pero dapat hindi sila iniiwan ng teacher. Kahit pa mga teenager pa yan hindi dapat sila iniiwang unsupervised. Baka nakakalimutan ng teachers, lahat ng nangyayare sa loob eh pananagutan ng school.
ReplyDeleteWala namang masama kung paglinisin, walis-walis, clean ng blackboard pero ung general cleaning as in scrubbing the walls and windows, sobra naman ata un.
ReplyDeleteOA naman nitong Chris Dina. I see nothing wrong with assigning cleaners. Sa basic ed lang naman ata required yan. It builds character. Children should be taught to clean after themselves. Bakit di siya nagpunta sa principal? Sa laki ng school na yan, baka di alam ng principal ang pinaggagawa ng class na yan. From the looks of it, 4 students ng isang class lang naman at one particular moment ang tumuntong sa ledge. This could be an isolated case. I studied a short course in German language in Liceo. Okay naman ang school. They keep winning in interschool competitions against the so called more sosyal schools. Napansin ko when i was there na halos mapuno ang harapan ng highschool campus ng tarps because they keep winning in competitions. My cousin is also taking up Pharmacy there and another one graduated many years ago from the College of Physical Therapy. It's pretty expensive.
ReplyDeleteWala namang reklamo yung poster about sa pagpapalinis ng mga bata mismo, yung reklamo nya eh about dun sa pagtayo nila sa ledge. Ok lang naman maglinis ang mga students kahit gaano pa ka private school kasi parte naman ng buhay yan, maglinis. Pero yung pagtayo sa ledge hinde kaya dapat talaga sabihan yung school na wag na hanggang window cleaning ipagawa sa mga bata.
ReplyDeleteAba delikado talaga yan. Risky.
ReplyDeletePrestigious? For all I know, bagsakan ang school na yan ng mga di natanggap or kick-outs from XU and MSU-IIT. LOL
ReplyDeleteI LUV LDCU
ReplyDeletekung kayo ba ang estudyante gusto niyo bang makinig sa teacher na madumi ang classroom lalo na ang wall dahil ang mga estudyante din ang nang dumi niyan.sinusulatan nila ang wall kaya dapat sila ang mag linis. lalo na ang window na grabe ang abo na nakakadulot na ng sakit sa kanila. so para sa inyo ok lang. may iba kayang paraan para linisin ang kabilang side ng window na hindi lumabas? ano sila superhero na lilipad para lang maglinis. ano ba!
ReplyDeleteIm sure teacher ka nila. Feel ko lang... ndi ka masyadong defensive sa lagay na yan.
DeleteAng question ko lang, since nsa school sya when this happened, pumunta ba sya sa guidance or kumausap ng school authorities to raise this concern? kasi kung hindi, e parang mali nman ata na ipost mo agad sa social media or isend kay fp ang reklamo mo. Ang opinion ko lng po is if you are really concerned about your kids' and other kids' safety, you should have immediately talked to school authorities. Kung hindi sila umaksyon or hindi maganda ang naging result ng paguusap, e that's the time cguro na pwde ka n magreklamo using social media.
ReplyDeleteTama kawawa dito mga bata dahil mainit na ang issue dahil sa social media if the school will take such action ang mga bata na walang alam na may nag post na pala sa FP ang syang kawawa..tsk!tsk!
DeleteState U ba to or Private School?! Nag aral ako sa isang kilalang State U at hindi ko maalalang pinaglinis kame ng room. Anu to elementary at high school mei cleaners everyday?! Dapat idinerechu niya sa CHED tong reklamo niya....
ReplyDeleteHalatang may galit ka letter sender sa Liceo at nagkataon na nakita mo yong mga bata kya ginamit mo na lang..oo concern ka pero sa tingin mo ba kng may action na gagawin ang school hindi maapektuhan yong mga bata? Think! Why dont you reveal ypur real name kng talagang concern kaat kinausap mo sana yong school authorities di ba?nandun ka na e...mga bata yong kawawa sa issue na to child abuse na to..
ReplyDeletemy goodness,ang point lang nmn.sabihan ang school regarding sa safety ng mag-aaral...
Deletekasalanan na naman ni pnoy to.
ReplyDeleteI beg to disagree with the previous post from an Anonymous at 3:07A.M last March 14, 2015 to be exact quoting what he said that "You end up in Liceo because Ateneo de Cagayan does not want you".
ReplyDeleteSir/Ma'am, I am proud to say that I graduated in Liceo de Cagayan not because Ateneo does not want me in their University. Anyways, your comment is pointless to this headline article.
With regards to this headline, I highly suggest to do an investigation why the students are doing those stuffs. It's not right.
i was accepted first at Ateneo before I enrolled at Liceo de Cagayan back in High School. baseless and pointless yung comment dahil hindi tinanggap ng Ateneo kaya nag-Liceo. to the commenter, if you are an Atenean, Ateneo failed miserably on you.
ReplyDeleteAlma Mater.. hahahaha
ReplyDeleteang gulo nman ang hilig nyo lahat magpafamous!!kahit ang point dto ay ang mga studyante na naglilinis sa dlekadong area..hnd daw xa nagbayad ng 40k para matakot xa ng ganyan para sa anak niya cguro ibig nyang sbhin na sna kng ganun din lng sna sa public nlng niya pinagaral anak nya bukod sa maayos bwal pa cla mag ganyan dhil tkot ang mga guro sa public na mlaman ng government!ganern un!!pnagawayan nyo pa yan!
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