Yes, this is your account, you can post anything you want. But you are a public figure as well, with many followers - with different religions- most are Catholic, probably. So posting those verses are just untimely, just insensitive. Kahit hindi ito meant talaga sa mga Catholics at bigla na lang pumasok sa isip mo sa araw na ito, syempre iisipin mo pa rin kung may mga tao kang matatamaan. As they say, think before you click, diba? Respect lang.
If u are offended sa post ni lara that means hindi mo nauunawaan ang verses. How is posting a bible verse being insensitive?? Wow. Hirap na pala magpost ng verse, may masasaktan ganern?
Guys, respect nga daw, hayaan na lng natin sya sa paniniwala nya. Freedom of speech nga eh. Anyways, ilang milyon nman ang nagsasaya compared to her alone on her IG!
How is it insensitive? It is from the Bible, so how can it be insensitive to Catholics? Totoo naman yung sinasabi ng verses eh. And in no way did she mention the pope. I dunno why ya'll seem so agitated.
I'm sure you dont read bible! With the way you think and react. Even the pope said that he is not the center of this event but Jesus Christ! Duh! What's wrong with you people?
I don't see anything offensive with her post. It's either you are super sensitive or in between schizo and praning. Hearing voices na wala naman. Natatamaan sa wala naman
If only people would JUST READ THE BIBLE, there will be no division and disagreement. Kaya lang naman me division and disagreement coz people instead of reading it are just believing what their religion interpreted abt it. Wag sanang umasa lang sa mga nakagisnan o narinig o itinuro ng kung anumang present religion niyo, JUST READ IT!
Sino naman ang mga naapektuhan sa post niya sa IG niya? Lol! Mga nacondemn ba sila ng words from the Bible or nirereject lang talaga nila ang truth of the words in the Bible?
If she just wants to remind herself, why did she have to post in her IG? Sana paulit ulit na lang niya binasa (lumusot pa)...Catholics see the pope as Peter whom Jesus designated as the rock on of his church (nasa Bible yan) and NOT Jesus himself... Napaka literal kasi ang ibang born against, kaya they see this as idolatry but dont they see this also as another way to express one's love for Jesus? Sana she follows Gary V, a non Catholic, who chose to keep an open mind and first focus on the positive impact of the visit rather than come up with messages that could be misinterpreted esp at this time...
To anon 1:09, you have to really read the Bible. When you read though, pray that you will be guided by the Holy Spirit (also believed by Catholics) so that you will not be deceived by your own thinking but rather, be enlightened ng wisdom na galing sa itaas. Nakakabless when we really discover the truth in the Bible :)
Kahit anong ibato ng ibang tao tungkol sa mga Katoliko, hinding hindi niyo maaalis ang damdaming dinadala ng presensya ng Papa. Kung hindi niyo maintindihan, tigilan niyo ang pagbatikos. Mas gusto ko na makita ang pag-asa na makikita mo sa mga mata ng mga taong ito kesa ang paghihirap na dinadanas nila sa buhay na hindi niyo naman kayang tugunan.
ung ibang sekta/religion, pag may dapat icelebrate, talagang dinudumog din ng mga mananampalataya. ang pagbisita ng Pope ay maihahanay mo sa mga celebrations na ito. Bakit gusto nyo alisin sa mga Catholic ito? You are all too hang-up on the symbolism. Artista nga pinagkakaguluhan, ang lider pa ba ng Simbahan? Magnified lang ang issue na ito dahil majority ng mga Pinoy ay Katoliko. Magmmove-on din kayo.
Even if these born againsts deny it, we know what they mean. They see the love that the Catholics give to Pope Francis as pope-worship.
Let us not play blind, many born againsts are posting such verses just so to accuse and ridicule Catholics because in their eyes, we are going against the scriptures when we lavish love and esteem to the Successor of Peter.
In their eyes, they are the only righteous ones who understands the Bible. Many of them believe that it is their duty to rub it their own interpretation of the scriptures on the faces of Catholics and call it as witnessing (See the case of the Baptist pastor Felizardo Abanto and the fundamentalist Paul Christopher Faculin).
It is clear to Catholics that the pope is not God BUT one that comes in the name of God. For Catholics, the Pope is the Vicar of Jesus Christ and Successor to Peter. As such, it is not really new that people would be hold him in high esteem and be attracted to him. During the time of the Apostles, people followed Peter just as they did the Lord Jesus. People even laid their sick on the streets so that the SHADOW of Peter might fall upon them and be healed. (Acts 5:15)
I really find it offensive how some of these Evangelicals refuse to call Roman Catholics as Christians. I noticed how some of them would use small letters in writing the word "Catholic" and use the term Christians exclusively on themselves. I don't know what their intentions are but this shows disrespect for Catholics
Let me just put it straight, Roman Catholics are among the first Christians and not the Protestant Evangelicals. In fact, the Apostle Paul wrote one of his most important letters to the church at Rome. This is included in the New Testament as the Letter to the Romans.
If you read the original Greek of the Acts of the Apostles (9:31) you will even find the words ekklesia kath'oles or "catholic church" which means church throughout or church universal.
“He men oun EKKLESIA KATH’OLES tes Judaias kai Galilaias kai Samarias eixon eirenen oikodomoumenai kai porenomenai to phobo tou Kyriou, kai te paraklesei tou Hagiou Pneumatos eplethunonto.”
This case is not just a harmless quoting of the Bible. Even if we fully agree to the content of the verse, the intention in posting is still very doubtful. Remember that Satan also quoted Bible verses (Matthew 4:1-11) just like how Islamic Fundamentalists quoted Quran verses to justify their evil actions.
"She just reiterated what the Bible said" BUT her intention of posting it is very clear- to malign catholics, and she lied about her intention when people reacted on her "public" post.
By the way, when you post something in public, you mean to share it to whoever could read it (whatever the reason is). When you share it, you expect a reaction from those who read it, so accept the reaction (either negative or positive) wholeheartedly since you asked for it beforehand. Kaya yung sabi niyang "MY PAGE" at "TO REMIND HERSELF", is an hypocrite excuse. Post in public if you want to share and get attention, or post in private if you JUST want to remind yourself.
4:55 ano naman ngayon? im a catholic pero yong mga post niya NEVER bothers me. sa totoo lang naman yong mga verse na yon...bat ka matatamaan kung naniniwala ka sa post na yon? bakit kailangan ba talagang pumunta ng santo papa bago tayo matauhan dito? WITH or WITHOUT the POPE those verses can stand alone. genuine yon totoong totoo, hindi pwedeng questionin. Kung ano man ang intention ng may ari ng IG wala ka na doon, dahil kung totoong Kristiano ka, mga simpleng bagay na ganyan HINDI KA MATATAMAAN. let them practice what they believe and mind your own busines...ang taas taas ng comment mo iisa lang naman ang gusto mong sabihin, ur doubting her post dahil nataon na andito ang Santo Papa. wag ng pansinin ang mga ganyan dahil u are just provoking yourself na mag-isip ng masama na obviously ayaw mangyari ng Santo Papa.
Obvious na may pinapatamaan siya. Buti pa ang FP commenters direct at candid sa comments. If they don't like you they will tell you. I loathe people na pa goody goody may tinatagong baho din pala. At ayoko yung nagtatago sa verses kasi hindi kayang panindigan ang pinaniniwalaan at sinasabi nila. Oh well I dont follow her so hindi ko siya ma unfollow. I'll just report her account hahaha
No comment.. Honestly guys when the issue is about God or religion i sugges we must not comment anymore.. It is very sensitive issue.. If u made a comment a lot of people will not agree with u cause in this world of us there are lots of religion, culture and beliefs.. So better just not comment.. I, thank u
Wag naman kasing magparinig Te. Kung yan ang paniniwala mo, e di sige. Pero puede namang maglagay ng disclaimer or something. At di naman tingin ng mga tao sa kanya santo o Diyos. May ibang sense of hope lang na nararamdaman ang mga tao sa kanyang presensya. Ibigay mo na yan sa kanila. Di ka rin naman perpekto.
Tumfact may kakilala din ako iba religion ganyan ang mga post, in time talaga, di naman sinamba ng mga tao ang Pope ano bah, mga artista nga pinagkagulohan ng mga tao sa mall, pati big politician kahit korakot dudumugin pag bumisita ng province yung Pope pa kaya, palusot si ate.
11:19 We Catholics know the Bible. In fact is the Catholic Church who first compiled the books of the Bible thru Pope Damasus I at the Council of Rome in AD 382.
It is also the Catholic Church who listed and approved the canon of the scriptures (the Christian Bible as we know it today) at the Synod of Hippo in AD 393 and the Councils of Carthage AD 397 and AD 419.
In essence, the BIBLE IS A CATHOLIC BOOK thus the authority to interpret it resides with the Catholic Church and not with fundamentalists who interpret it the way they want to. The born againts simply have no authority to do this.
Furthermore, just so you know, the Church preceded the Bible. In Filipino, NAUNA ANG SIMBAHAN KESA SA BIBLIA. And according the scriptures, the Church is founded on Peter by Jesus Christ himself. He said, "And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it." (Matt 16:18)
Christ gave the authority to Peter (the Bishop of Rome) whose successor, and this can be historically traced, is no other than (drum roll please)~ Pope FRANCIS!
8:43 Wala namang nagcclaim na sa.kanila yung bible. Kaya nga generic yung sabi: READ your bible. Ang bible, God's word, ibig sabihin si God ang nagmamay-ari. Alam ko gusto mong idefend ang religion natin mga Catholic pero sana naman you win hearts and not arguments. Ipakita natin na nagbabasa tayo at naiintindihan natin ang bible. Kung si Jesus hindi nagalit o nakipag argue ng hinatulan siya na icrucify bagkus ay pinagdasal ang mga taong naging dahilan non, e bakit di natin gawin yun?
We've been tolerating attacks and misinformation from these fundamentalists for a time too long thru their misinterpretations of the scriptures and our gestures. It's but proper to correct this by stating these facts. I'm not fighting anyway.
Dear 10:24 please reread 11:19's comment saying Catholics don't know what the Bible contains.
That comment is generalizing and of course, a lie. God's word is his own but we're saying we know it too because we compiled the books which they in turn use and quote.
palusot pa. obviously, that's where she's at. condemning the people who celebrates Pope's visit. why not tell the truth. your posts on bible verses are enough, but with those captions? #alamna
Different folks with different strokes. We have the right to share our opinions and beliefs publicly but bare in mind that once you open yourself publicly... regardless if we meant it or not, we will offend someone. And we must face that fact.
Eventually, you have to be responsible for what your tongue pronounces when heard by other people regardless of your exclusive ownership of your tongue.
Have an open mind 5:11. She just quoted the bible. Nothing wrong with that. I'm sure priests also use those verses for their homily. I'm a catholic since birth and been to catholic schools from prep to college. I just don't see the point why you are all affected by Lara's post.
I also believe that Jesus is the way, the truth, and the light but I chose not to post that quote while the Pope is around. Instead, I said may his presence bring us hope and make us realize that we can be united by one God. And may we not treat the pope as God but as somebody who can strengthen our faith in God. We have the responsibility in bringing a positive message in social media.
agree. di porke't may freedom of expression tayo sige sige na lang. as a celebrity and a beauty queen, dapat iniisip nya ano ang impact ng post nya sa tao. nagiging nega tuloy siya.
Di ko nagets ang punto mo 12:38. Pinaalala nga ni 12:20 sa sarili nya na may responsibility din siyang ipahayag ang kanyang saloobin sa isang mapayapa at positibong paraan. Anong pinagpuputok ng butsi mo?
Why January 18, 2015 at 12:20 AM? magkasalungat ba ang paniniwala ni Lara sa paniniwala ni Pope? Same bible verse na mismo si Pope ay sumasang-ayon. Ano problema dun? Palibhasa wala kasing kaalam alam sa Bible ang iba kaya akala nila magka iba ang mensahe ni Lara eh kung tutuusin pareho naman. Magbasa basa nga muna kayo ng Bibliya bago kayo mag react.
If it is her intention is to remind herself, she should have kept it to herself.
Her posting of these make two things clear: 1. She thinks Catholics think that the Pope is God (clearly we dont) 2. She is making parinig. It is no different from when you post "inspirational" quotes na may pinatatamaan sya. Apparently people are not as stupid as she thinks as we see through her so she makes this lame excuse that she thinks we will buy.
The Pope Mania represents a thirst for a spiritual leader who will be their guide. A shepherd who will remind them that admist this frustrating world we live in, we can always turn to Christ who never lets us down. That, Ms Quigaman and followers, is what this Pope brouhaha is about. He fulfills the need for spiritual guidance even for a bit. Which is difficult to get from your divisive and arrogant ways. Yes, we see through you.
Maybe she just needs something to jumpstart her career again. Wait, what career?
Wala namang masama sa bible verse na pinost nya, di lang maganda yung "timing" na pag popost nya kasi masyadong obvious na nagpaparinig sya dahil sobrang daming nagpapakita ng pagmamahal kay Pope at sakto kung kelan nandito ang Santo Papa. Siguro kung nag post sya ng ganyan before dumating si Pope di naman magiging issue yan.
you still are a public figure and your timing was just off, noboday said that Pope Francis is Jesus, he is an instrument which helped a lot of people find their way back to the Lord, just as how you are using your IG account to inspire others, respect other and you'll get it in return, it's that simple
Now you've got what you asked for. Walang kumokontra sa bible verses mo. Pero napakatiming naman ng posts mo. Alin artista lang ang pwedeng iidolize, tilian at abangan? Ibig sabihin sinasamba namin kayong mga artista pag grabe ang saya namin pag nagtutour kayo sa lugar namin. Celebrity sya kasi leader nga sya get mo? Deny pa more Pero sana maliwanagan ka din sa kamalditahan mo
Aminin na kasi. Marami talagang Pinoy ang misdirected ang devotion. Black Nazarene pa lang, makikita na kung gaano pinapahalagaan ng mga Pinoy ang mga simbolo kuno ng kanilang panalampalataya. Idolatry na yan e. And before you attack me with your rationalizations and justifications, mag-isip muna. Katoliko rin kaya ako, pero ginagamit ko rin ang utak ko at hindi ako nagpapadala sa doktrina lamang.
Ano bang masama sa post niya? As a THINKING Catholic, nagegets ko siya. Huwag kasi kayong magpakabulag sa doktrina. Even the Pope has stated na hindi dapat sa kanya nakafocus ang devotion natin.
Lara, be honest. Your post is quite timely and very telling. Sana direchuhin mo na lang, mas madame pang makakaintindi sayo. Kesa dinaan mo sa ganyang parinig tapos sasabihin mo 'reminder' mo? Ano yan, note to self, ganon?
Catholics generally don't care about the activities of other religions unit they get bashed and accused of all sort of things which are not even true like idolatry, etc. It has been their method of proselytizing.
When fundamentalists attack Catholics they call it witnessing but when Catholics retort, they say its anger.
palusot c ateng Lara hehe...wrong timing ka ateng...gus2 lng mpg-usapan habang ang leader ng catholic church ay nasa pinas,respect lng....pede nmn s ibang araw ka mg-gaganyan eh s jan.20! hndi nman kakitiran ng utak ang pgreact ng mga tao s post mu...halata lng na may hidden motive c ateng!
Palusot dot com. Walang mali sa posts mo pero sana wag ngayon na nandito si Pope. He is the vicar of Christ, at least sa min nga katoliko so matuto ka dng rumespeto. Namakawalng gana ka.
Hindi nya kelangan magpalusot. Those bible verses are words of God. Walang pagkakataon na mali or wala sa timing ang salita ng Dyos. Im just wondering now why are u people taking against the word of God.
This case is not just a harmless quoting of the Bible. Even if we fully agree to the content of the verse, the intention in posting is still very doubtful. Remember that Satan also quoted Bible verses (Matthew 4:1-11) just like how Islamic Fundamentalists quoted Quran verses to justify their evil actions.
Nothing wrong with the verse but the intention for posting is doubtful. Remember that even Satan quoted verses in front of Jesus Christ himself (Matthew 4:1-11)
Bible verse is not wrong but the intention why it was quoted and how it is being interpreted may be wrong. Remember that even Satan quoted the scriptures in tempting Jesus. (Cf. Matthew 4:1-11; Luke 4)
Me sinabi ba akong mali 1:04? Out of context ka sa sinabi ko. Theres nowhere in what i posted that i am taking against the word of God. Defensive ang dating niya and thats how i see it.
What's wrong with her post? The mere fact that it's causing controversy, yun Sana inisip nya but maybe she wanted controversy, you got what you wanted so deal with it and stop crying for respect. Enjoy it while it lasts for maybe tomorrow your name will be forgotten again and your IG will be back for being quiet.
Wala na kasw karir yan pati asawa nya. Nagpapapansin. Need pang gatas ng anak. Its so obvious. Yah nasa bible nga ung quotes nia. Common sana nilagyan na lang nia ng mas magandang caption at hindi tila nagpaparinig sa mga fans ni Pope...
There is nothing wrong with the verses she posted but in the same way, as most of us know that those verses were the ones always being used by the "Christians" and "Born again" in their evangelization ways and the foundation of their argument in a "religious" conversation. And to post them now when she very well know that the Leader of the Catholic Church is here is somewhat insensitive and ill time. While her IG is her own space, she is a public figure and I think, she has intelligent followers to interpret that in posting those verses the intent was to remind us Catholics that it is not Pope Francis but Jesus Christ that should be the main focus of our attention. It would be hypocritical to say that her acts were made with innocent intention as what she is trying to point out ... for someone with intelligence like her, i'm sorry but i find it hard to believe. Maybe there was really no malice but it's not really that difficult if we practice prudence and sensitivity. We are not here to silence anyone but sometimes, it doesn't hurt to keep one's thought in deep silence some of the time.
This case is not just a harmless quoting of the Bible. Even if we fully agree to the content of the verse, the intention in posting is still very doubtful. Remember that Satan also quoted Bible verses (Matthew 4:1-11) just like how Islamic Fundamentalists quoted Quran verses to justify their evil actions.
Born again fundamentalists begin their proselytizing by attacking the Catholic Church because they cannot stand on their own. They quote the Bible without realizing that it is a Catholic book.
I am getting sick and tired of this anti-Catholic rants of so called Christians who trots the Bible and uses the verses and interprets the verses to their advantage. If thy Ms. Lara really knows the meaning of RESPECT then she should have shut the hell up and not post such on her PUBLIC( I assume, I do not follow her) social media account---which shows such insensitivity and pure disrespect to the people who looks up to the Pope as a leader of the Catholic church which by the way is the predominant religion of the country. Catholics do not have any problem with the so called Christians and the likes----no disrespectful stuff posted and such---so why post such when the Pope is here? Naturingan ka pa man ding may pinag-aralan, hindi mo naman ginagamit. Wala kang pinag kaiba sa mga ibang relihiyon na ang daming sinasabi sa Simbahang Katoliko. If you cannot tolerate Catholicism, then STFU.
Respect? Eh you don't respect her opinion nga eh. Tignan mo muna sarili mo kung di babalik sayo ang mga sinasabi mo. Pag religion niyo binabash dami niyo sinasabi. Pero you do that to other religion din naman eh, so san ang RESPECT na sinasabi mo?
Hey 2:31AM, did she ever say she's anti-catholic?? or gusto mo talagang yun ang maging interpretation ng posts nya? if she's bashing on catholicism, she wouldn't have said that she "respects the pope and is grateful to him". And why NOT post such? What's exactly WRONG with what this "so called" Christian woman posted? Maybe you're the one who needs to STFU, oh holy one.
So many people blinded by the truth. Funny how far people can go and persecute someone for saying the truth. Walang kaibahan sa sinasabi nilang mali. I am a Born Again Christian, an I personally admire the Pope for two things. 1) He speaks of the truth - truth that is written in the Bible (which we all are commanded to follow) 2) He practice what he preaches.
Nobody has a single right to persecute someone for her beliefs. Catholic are Christians too, di ko alam kung anong pinaglalaban nyo.
I still don't see how her posts implied "insensitivity" and "rudeness" when it speaks nothing but the truth that is also written on the Bible you use.
How you put someone to shame because of their faith would bring you nowhere. Katoliko ka man, Born Again, INC, Muslim o kung ano pa, kung masama naman ginagawa mo sa kapwa mo wala din.
Sa sasagot dito, bago ka sumagot, isipin mo kung wala kang nagawang mali sa tanang buhay mo, kung wala feel free to put me down. Same thing goes for Lara, criticize her for her act and belief if you wouldn't do the same to express your faith.
While there is nothing wrong about the verse she quoted, her intention is still a subject of doubt as it seems that there is malice in it and people finds offence in this.
Ung pinagalalaban namin the same wat na ipinagalalaban niyo din. Malinaw ba? We have saints, we have the Pope. We respect and adore them but we know that they are not GOD nor JESUS. They are for us tangible manifestations of Gods Love. We get lara's point. We just deem her timing is inappropriate.
The fact that people some are actually offended shows just how little they know of their own religion. Most probably heard some verses from attending mass but never read the bible themselves thus they lack understanding. You're proclaiming to defend your religion which obviously you don't practice.
@5:02 while there is nothing wrong with the verse she quoted, I can't seem to find any reasons why someone should assume that the verses are intended for someone. Not because you posted a verse doesn't mean you are posting it for somebody. Same way with what you call "timing" @ 6:06 - should there be a schedule for posting such? Not everyone hates your doctrines, nor question them, same way na hindi rin lahat naiintindihan ng iba.
And 5:04 I get your point but don't we all make mistakes? Papano mo namang iput down ang isang tao for something she did na inassume lang naman na mali. We all fall short of His holiness, so bakit mo pupukulin ang isang tao dahil lang akala mo may ginagawang mali.
11:45 How do you know that we know little of our own religion? We've been tolerating the bashing and the accusations from all those born againts and now we answer.
I usually post based from the knowledge I gained by reading books, interviews, research and such. Bible... collection of supposed personal encounters by his followers. May panahon na nagtutugma ang bawat personal encounters at may iba na hindi. So.. tanong ko Lara. Sigurado ka ba sa mga nakasulat sa bible? People can bash me anytime. E sa personal paniniwala ko ito e. Kanya kanya lang yan. #POSTPAMORE
Katoliko ako at natutuwa sa epekto ng pagdating ng pope sa paniniwala ng mga tao pero sumasang-ayon din ako sa sinabi ni Lara. Pauli-ulit na sinasabi ng pope na wag siyang gawing sentro kundi ang Diyos pero parang hindi naman gets ng iba. Maraming ipokrita ang nasa lansangan, nag-aabang na makita ang papa, at makapag post ng picture pero hindi iniintindi at isinasapuso ang mensaheng dala niya.
Pope Francis is Jesus' instrument in giving the true message of Faith and Hope in the Philippines...He didn't proclaim himself as greater than Jesus... I cried when he did the lithurgy mass in UST...grbe lang..
Pampam. Spineless. I'm Catholic but I have enough "Christian" relatives to know na nagpapatama ka albeit under the guise of freedom of expression. Respect you say but you obviously don't have that for the faith the Pope represents. It would be better if you just say that as is, what you really think of the Pope and the Catholic Church's hierarchy instead of posting some passive aggressive crap then cowering under "my account, my opinion" blah blah. Be honest. Baka sumikat ka pa for real :)
Mga tao nmn kasi todo emote kay pope, bili bili tshrt, picture picture, abang abang sa kalye, pero pag alis ni pope balik sa dating gawi.. Oo inspiring c pope, pero kht sana walanac pope, magtuloy tuloy..
Eh ano naman ngayon d naman ikaw nagbigay ng pambili nila. They just found too much love, inspiration, encouragement, from Pope Francis. Si Pope kc is representing Jesus that is why sobrang tuwa ng mga tao na makita siya and more importantly magkakasala pa rin yang mga yan pag wala na si Pope. Know y. Because tao sila at makasalanan ang tao...but still there is Jesus, our hope and our salvation.
No one will win sa mga ganitong arguments. Hayaan na natin si Lara, hayaan nadin natin ang fellow catholics natin and people of other religions. Magfocus tayo sa pagbabago ng mga sarili natin. Mahirap yang puna tayo ng puna ng iba, yung mismong mga sarili naman natin eh bulok. Maliit na bagay lang yan kung tutuusin. Lets each mind our own business and be better versions of ourselves. God bless everyone and sana mafeel natin ang presence ni God sa bawat isa.
May kilalA akong christian na every week nagchchurch but pagnakatalikod ka sisiraan ka. Tsk tsk buti pa si pope kahit na sino tinatanngap. You can see that he is so sincere. Dapat ganun kahit na hindi kayo parehas ng religion e dapat same treatment and willing ka pa rin makapagkaibigan. Yun ang totoo naniniwala kay christ. Open for all no evil intension
She said she would always post bible verses? Check her IG.. How timely for her to post those 2 specific ones while Pope Francis is here. What I don't understand is why she had to explain herself. " To those who believe, no explanation is necessary. To those who don't believe, no explanation is possible. "
Yes.. There's nothing wrong with your posts but what about your intentions dear Lara? C'Mon we're not that dumb. Also, make sure that you are quoting based on our bible and not yours. I just hope you know that your bible (whatever your religion is) was taken from the ones that we, Catholics, are reading. You just deleted/edited it to suit your own personal agenda. Do you even know that???
RESPECT. Obviously Lara, hindi mo alam ang ibig sabihin nito. Obviously Lara, may ibig kang sabihin sa post mo,
Palusot ka pa. Yan ang hirap sa mga nagpaconvert sa Ibang religion, mga feeling righteous akala mo mga know-it-all, Catholic was here more than 2000 years ago. For all we know, walang original na fake. Lahat naman ng religion, aminin ninyo, based sa Catholicism, Huwag mong sabihing d ka nagValentines Day which is in honor of St. Valentinus. Walang itinurong masama sa Inyo ang simbahang Katoliko kundi pagmamahal sa Diyos, kapwa, pagpapatawad, pagpapakumbaba, atop. Hindi katulad ng Ibang religion, dumarami sa paninira ng ibang reilgion na pinapaniwalaan ng iba dahil d kalaliman ang alam nila sa faith nila.
Sana Lara, sa iyo at sa iba pa, kung aalis kayo sa dati ninyong religion, matuto naman kayo ng salitang respeto. That is why I salute Gary V and Angel Locsin, non-Catholics but have so much respect for others unlike those who keep on bashing and judging other people.
FP EFFORT ITO. Pakipublish naman. Ty and more power!
Hahaha...teh haba nang paliwanag mo...mga palusot...eh talaga namang parinig eh..ang ibig nyang sabihin si jesus lang dapat hangaan hindi si pope..dibah teh...palusot much...
Arte mo ah! Di na b*b* mga utaw ngayon. Yan ang hirap eh kami naman di naman kayo masyado nakakarinig samin tas kayo konting kibot ang dami-daming sinasabi. Isipin niyo na lang talagang naglaan pa siya ng oras para lang sa mga taga-Tacloban. Mga utak talaga. Maybe you should tell that to yourself, Lara! RESPECT!
This argument about religion is just a pinoy thing!! I have attended non-catholic services abroad at never ko narinig sa pastor or sa leader nila na hinihikayat ang ibang religion na maging membro nila.. They would just preach about God and what the bible said... Never malign other religion... Pero dito lang sa pinas ko naexperience na nagpepreach pero my parinig pa towarda other religion!
Former Miss International,hindi porke nakapagbigay ka ng karangalan sa bansa natin,magpapaka self righteous ka jan.matuto kang rumespeto tulad ng pag respeto ni pope sa ibang religions.and if u have been watching the tv closely,he made it clear many times that filipino people should focus on Jesus Christ and not him,he is just an instrument.pasok mo exit din e noh.row 4 ka teh! tandaan mo,religion will not save humanity but faith alone.naturingan kang christian,alam mo dapat yun!
Wala masama sa post at timing niya. Napasama lang kasi hindi ayon sa paliwanag niya for her intention of posting it is a reminder for herself when she posted it publicly in social media. She can right it down sa post it notes na lang.
Just because someone opens up their pages to the public is not an invitation to bash. Your views may be different from hers but where does an anonymous person get the moral authority to lecture or criticize someone else? Anyone who opens a public page shares their thoughts --- but again, the doesn't mean people should take the opportunity to use her own opinions against her.
Filipinos are too sensitive. Hindi marunong mag practice nang self-restraint. Pwede naman hindi magcomment di ba? But noooo~ Kailangan talaga magmarunong palagi. If you don't believe in her post then don't say anything. Mga netizens ngayon puro balat sibuyas.
ang hirap kasi sa mga ibang christians they think they know better than catholics. HUMILITY ata ang unang kailangan matutunan ng mga tulad ni lara quigaman. i am a catholic but i respect all religion. i always say if your religion makes your faith stronger and it pushes you to help the needy, then go! never judge. this quigaman should not have won the miss international title kasi mukhang kakarampot lang ang pag-iisip nya.
Yes, this is your account, you can post anything you want. But you are a public figure as well, with many followers - with different religions- most are Catholic, probably. So posting those verses are just untimely, just insensitive. Kahit hindi ito meant talaga sa mga Catholics at bigla na lang pumasok sa isip mo sa araw na ito, syempre iisipin mo pa rin kung may mga tao kang matatamaan. As they say, think before you click, diba? Respect lang.
ReplyDeleteHa???? wala naman masama sa mga post ni lara dahil bible verses naman yun at yun din naman ang mensahe ng pope. Hala sya
DeleteIf u are offended sa post ni lara that means hindi mo nauunawaan ang verses. How is posting a bible verse being insensitive?? Wow. Hirap na pala magpost ng verse, may masasaktan ganern?
DeleteSo you mean the BIBLE is insensitive?
DeleteAmo ka dyan? bakit? ano bang masama sa verse? even the pope quotes those verses.
DeleteGuys, respect nga daw, hayaan na lng natin sya sa paniniwala nya. Freedom of speech nga eh. Anyways, ilang milyon nman ang nagsasaya compared to her alone on her IG!
DeleteDefensive ka lang dahil wala kang rebuttal sa argument ni Lara. Huwag maging bulag kasi.
DeleteHow is it insensitive? It is from the Bible, so how can it be insensitive to Catholics? Totoo naman yung sinasabi ng verses eh. And in no way did she mention the pope. I dunno why ya'll seem so agitated.
DeleteI'm sure you dont read bible! With the way you think and react. Even the pope said that he is not the center of this event but Jesus Christ! Duh! What's wrong with you people?
DeleteI don't see anything offensive with her post. It's either you are super sensitive or in between schizo and praning. Hearing voices na wala naman. Natatamaan sa wala naman
DeleteIf only people would JUST READ THE BIBLE, there will be no division and disagreement. Kaya lang naman me division and disagreement coz people instead of reading it are just believing what their religion interpreted abt it. Wag sanang umasa lang sa mga nakagisnan o narinig o itinuro ng kung anumang present religion niyo, JUST READ IT!
DeleteSino naman ang mga naapektuhan sa post niya sa IG niya? Lol! Mga nacondemn ba sila ng words from the Bible or nirereject lang talaga nila ang truth of the words in the Bible?
DeleteParang sinabi na rin ni 12:13 na hindi galing sa bible o hindi nila kinukuha sa bible ang mga teachings at natutunan nila?
DeleteSino kaya ang tinatamaan o tatamaan sa post niya @12:13? kung me tinamaan ibig sabihin me mali sa ginagawa nung tinamaan o mga tinatamaan.
DeleteIf she just wants to remind herself, why did she have to post in her IG? Sana paulit ulit na lang niya binasa (lumusot pa)...Catholics see the pope as Peter whom Jesus designated as the rock on of his church (nasa Bible yan) and NOT Jesus himself... Napaka literal kasi ang ibang born against, kaya they see this as idolatry but dont they see this also as another way to express one's love for Jesus? Sana she follows Gary V, a non Catholic, who chose to keep an open mind and first focus on the positive impact of the visit rather than come up with messages that could be misinterpreted esp at this time...
DeleteHindi naman verse abt sa 2nd commandment ng 10 commandments ang nakapost. Pag yun ang pinost me pinatatamaan talaga.
DeleteThere is nothing offensive about Lara's post. She just reiterated what the Bible said.
DeleteTinamaan ka ng bato, 'teh? Lol
Delete1:09 buksan mo ang pagiisip mo. Kitid ng utak mo. Isa ka cgurado sa nagcomment sa ig nya.
DeleteTo anon 1:09, you have to really read the Bible. When you read though, pray that you will be guided by the Holy Spirit (also believed by Catholics) so that you will not be deceived by your own thinking but rather, be enlightened ng wisdom na galing sa itaas. Nakakabless when we really discover the truth in the Bible :)
DeleteNothing offensive in her post. It's the TRUTH, and you don't apologize for it.
DeleteWala naman masama sa post as in wala.....kaloka...walang wala....nagpost ng bible verse nagalit mga haters? Bakit ano meron ahaha
DeleteKahit anong ibato ng ibang tao tungkol sa mga Katoliko, hinding hindi niyo maaalis ang damdaming dinadala ng presensya ng Papa. Kung hindi niyo maintindihan, tigilan niyo ang pagbatikos. Mas gusto ko na makita ang pag-asa na makikita mo sa mga mata ng mga taong ito kesa ang paghihirap na dinadanas nila sa buhay na hindi niyo naman kayang tugunan.
Deleteung ibang sekta/religion, pag may dapat icelebrate, talagang dinudumog din ng mga mananampalataya. ang pagbisita ng Pope ay maihahanay mo sa mga celebrations na ito. Bakit gusto nyo alisin sa mga Catholic ito? You are all too hang-up on the symbolism. Artista nga pinagkakaguluhan, ang lider pa ba ng Simbahan? Magnified lang ang issue na ito dahil majority ng mga Pinoy ay Katoliko. Magmmove-on din kayo.
DeleteEven if these born againsts deny it, we know what they mean. They see the love that the Catholics give to Pope Francis as pope-worship.
DeleteLet us not play blind, many born againsts are posting such verses just so to accuse and ridicule Catholics because in their eyes, we are going against the scriptures when we lavish love and esteem to the Successor of Peter.
In their eyes, they are the only righteous ones who understands the Bible. Many of them believe that it is their duty to rub it their own interpretation of the scriptures on the faces of Catholics and call it as witnessing (See the case of the Baptist pastor Felizardo Abanto and the fundamentalist Paul Christopher Faculin).
It is clear to Catholics that the pope is not God BUT one that comes in the name of God. For Catholics, the Pope is the Vicar of Jesus Christ and Successor to Peter. As such, it is not really new that people would be hold him in high esteem and be attracted to him. During the time of the Apostles, people followed Peter just as they did the Lord Jesus. People even laid their sick on the streets so that the SHADOW of Peter might fall upon them and be healed. (Acts 5:15)
I really find it offensive how some of these Evangelicals refuse to call Roman Catholics as Christians. I noticed how some of them would use small letters in writing the word "Catholic" and use the term Christians exclusively on themselves. I don't know what their intentions are but this shows disrespect for Catholics
Let me just put it straight, Roman Catholics are among the first Christians and not the Protestant Evangelicals. In fact, the Apostle Paul wrote one of his most important letters to the church at Rome. This is included in the New Testament as the Letter to the Romans.
If you read the original Greek of the Acts of the Apostles (9:31) you will even find the words ekklesia kath'oles or "catholic church" which means church throughout or church universal.
“He men oun EKKLESIA KATH’OLES tes Judaias kai Galilaias kai Samarias eixon eirenen oikodomoumenai kai porenomenai to phobo tou Kyriou, kai te paraklesei tou Hagiou Pneumatos eplethunonto.”
This case is not just a harmless quoting of the Bible. Even if we fully agree to the content of the verse, the intention in posting is still very doubtful. Remember that Satan also quoted Bible verses (Matthew 4:1-11) just like how Islamic Fundamentalists quoted Quran verses to justify their evil actions.
O ayan lola ganda, napag-usapan ka na! Hingi ka na ng bagong project, daliiii! #grabtheopportunity
DeleteAnon 4:55,thank you :)
Delete"She just reiterated what the Bible said" BUT her intention of posting it is very clear- to malign catholics, and she lied about her intention when people reacted on her "public" post.
DeleteBy the way, when you post something in public, you mean to share it to whoever could read it (whatever the reason is). When you share it, you expect a reaction from those who read it, so accept the reaction (either negative or positive) wholeheartedly since you asked for it beforehand. Kaya yung sabi niyang "MY PAGE" at "TO REMIND HERSELF", is an hypocrite excuse. Post in public if you want to share and get attention, or post in private if you JUST want to remind yourself.
Your welcome Anon 11:50PM! Happy to serve. :)
Delete4:55 ano naman ngayon? im a catholic pero yong mga post niya NEVER bothers me. sa totoo lang naman yong mga verse na yon...bat ka matatamaan kung naniniwala ka sa post na yon? bakit kailangan ba talagang pumunta ng santo papa bago tayo matauhan dito? WITH or WITHOUT the POPE those verses can stand alone. genuine yon totoong totoo, hindi pwedeng questionin. Kung ano man ang intention ng may ari ng IG wala ka na doon, dahil kung totoong Kristiano ka, mga simpleng bagay na ganyan HINDI KA MATATAMAAN. let them practice what they believe and mind your own busines...ang taas taas ng comment mo iisa lang naman ang gusto mong sabihin, ur doubting her post dahil nataon na andito ang Santo Papa. wag ng pansinin ang mga ganyan dahil u are just provoking yourself na mag-isip ng masama na obviously ayaw mangyari ng Santo Papa.
DeleteGood for you if it didn't bother you 2:51.
DeleteIt is my obligation to defend my faith when it is attacked and to explain it to those who do not understand it.
The use of the scripture can be self-serving too even if it is good.
Obvious na may pinapatamaan siya. Buti pa ang FP commenters direct at candid sa comments. If they don't like you they will tell you. I loathe people na pa goody goody may tinatagong baho din pala. At ayoko yung nagtatago sa verses kasi hindi kayang panindigan ang pinaniniwalaan at sinasabi nila. Oh well I dont follow her so hindi ko siya ma unfollow. I'll just report her account hahaha
DeleteI agree with you 7:01
DeleteI agree with you 7:01
DeleteNo comment.. Honestly guys when the issue is about God or religion i sugges we must not comment anymore.. It is very sensitive issue.. If u made a comment a lot of people will not agree with u cause in this world of us there are lots of religion, culture and beliefs.. So better just not comment.. I, thank u
ReplyDeleteSo much for no comment.
DeleteBilib talaga ako sayo Ekat, you're a genius!
Deletetumfact!
Delete12:19 ofcrs im beauties, bodies and brains
DeleteKorek ekat!!! Bravo
Deletelove you ekat for not being nega!
DeleteSabi na nga ba may utak itong si ekat. Nagkukunwari lang!
DeleteWag naman kasing magparinig Te. Kung yan ang paniniwala mo, e di sige. Pero puede namang maglagay ng disclaimer or something. At di naman tingin ng mga tao sa kanya santo o Diyos. May ibang sense of hope lang na nararamdaman ang mga tao sa kanyang presensya. Ibigay mo na yan sa kanila. Di ka rin naman perpekto.
ReplyDeletewala naman syang sinasabi na ginagawang diyos si Pope ahh
DeleteTumfact may kakilala din ako iba religion ganyan ang mga post, in time talaga, di naman sinamba ng mga tao ang Pope ano bah, mga artista nga pinagkagulohan ng mga tao sa mall, pati big politician kahit korakot dudumugin pag bumisita ng province yung Pope pa kaya, palusot si ate.
Deletecatholic kayo and yet di nyo alam ang laman ng Bible...so sad..walang masama sa mga post nya..Christian din naman ang catholic..
DeleteHuh? Ano palusot dun? Kung lalagyan ng disclaimer e di lalo maooffend ang mga ibang religion. Yung totoo, hindi nyo cguro alam yang verse na yan.
DeleteWow 11 19 born again ka? Know it all ka din sa bible noh?
Delete11:19 We Catholics know the Bible. In fact is the Catholic Church who first compiled the books of the Bible thru Pope Damasus I at the Council of Rome in AD 382.
DeleteIt is also the Catholic Church who listed and approved the canon of the scriptures (the Christian Bible as we know it today) at the Synod of Hippo in AD 393 and the Councils of Carthage AD 397 and AD 419.
In essence, the BIBLE IS A CATHOLIC BOOK thus the authority to interpret it resides with the Catholic Church and not with fundamentalists who interpret it the way they want to. The born againts simply have no authority to do this.
Furthermore, just so you know, the Church preceded the Bible. In Filipino, NAUNA ANG SIMBAHAN KESA SA BIBLIA. And according the scriptures, the Church is founded on Peter by Jesus Christ himself. He said, "And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it." (Matt 16:18)
Christ gave the authority to Peter (the Bishop of Rome) whose successor, and this can be historically traced, is no other than (drum roll please)~ Pope FRANCIS!
6:10 for sure born again yang si 11:19
Delete8:43
DeleteWala namang nagcclaim na sa.kanila yung bible. Kaya nga generic yung sabi: READ your bible. Ang bible, God's word, ibig sabihin si God ang nagmamay-ari. Alam ko gusto mong idefend ang religion natin mga Catholic pero sana naman you win hearts and not arguments. Ipakita natin na nagbabasa tayo at naiintindihan natin ang bible. Kung si Jesus hindi nagalit o nakipag argue ng hinatulan siya na icrucify bagkus ay pinagdasal ang mga taong naging dahilan non, e bakit di natin gawin yun?
We've been tolerating attacks and misinformation from these fundamentalists for a time too long thru their misinterpretations of the scriptures and our gestures. It's but proper to correct this by stating these facts. I'm not fighting anyway.
DeleteDear 10:24 please reread 11:19's comment saying Catholics don't know what the Bible contains.
DeleteThat comment is generalizing and of course, a lie. God's word is his own but we're saying we know it too because we compiled the books which they in turn use and quote.
palusot pa. obviously, that's where she's at. condemning the people who celebrates Pope's visit. why not tell the truth. your posts on bible verses are enough, but with those captions? #alamna
ReplyDeleteAre you saying that the Bible is condemning you?
Delete@12:37 you sound like another krung krung in the house!
DeleteTeh balik ka grade one bagsak ka ata sa mga subjects mo kulang kulang ka mag isip 12;16
Delete12:37am, basahin uli ang comment.
Delete2:15 'day maglaba ka na lang kung ndi mo naintindihan buong komento. mas kulang ka sa comprehension. hala balik!
DeleteNagpost lang naman siya ng bible verses. Ano masama dun? Kapag ibang artista nag popost ng bible verses bakit hindi niyo binabash? Tinamaan ba kayo?;
DeleteDifferent folks with different strokes. We have the right to share our opinions and beliefs publicly but bare in mind that once you open yourself publicly... regardless if we meant it or not, we will offend someone. And we must face that fact.
ReplyDeleteThat's her page people. Wag kasi kayong masyadong magbigay ng kulay sa mga bagay bagay. This is so petty.
ReplyDeleteNo that is not petty at all. While that is her page, that is also a public pronouncement and her intention offends people.
DeleteEventually, you have to be responsible for what your tongue pronounces when heard by other people regardless of your exclusive ownership of your tongue.
DeleteHave an open mind 5:11. She just quoted the bible. Nothing wrong with that. I'm sure priests also use those verses for their homily. I'm a catholic since birth and been to catholic schools from prep to college. I just don't see the point why you are all affected by Lara's post.
DeletePlease don't be naive. We all know what she means.
DeleteI also believe that Jesus is the way, the truth, and the light but I chose not to post that quote while the Pope is around. Instead, I said may his presence bring us hope and make us realize that we can be united by one God. And may we not treat the pope as God but as somebody who can strengthen our faith in God. We have the responsibility in bringing a positive message in social media.
ReplyDeleteagree. di porke't may freedom of expression tayo sige sige na lang. as a celebrity and a beauty queen, dapat iniisip nya ano ang impact ng post nya sa tao. nagiging nega tuloy siya.
DeleteExactly!!
DeleteAh ganun ba? Dahil lang may dumating na isang lider dapat itigil din ang paalala sa sarili?
DeleteDi ko nagets ang punto mo 12:38. Pinaalala nga ni 12:20 sa sarili nya na may responsibility din siyang ipahayag ang kanyang saloobin sa isang mapayapa at positibong paraan. Anong pinagpuputok ng butsi mo?
Deleteanon 12:38, kawawa ka naman kasi ang kitid ng utak mo, breeding ang tawag doon just in case di mo alam
DeleteYou can remind yourself everytime without posting these on social media which would eventually create a buzz. 12:38
DeleteWhy January 18, 2015 at 12:20 AM? magkasalungat ba ang paniniwala ni Lara sa paniniwala ni Pope? Same bible verse na mismo si Pope ay sumasang-ayon. Ano problema dun? Palibhasa wala kasing kaalam alam sa Bible ang iba kaya akala nila magka iba ang mensahe ni Lara eh kung tutuusin pareho naman. Magbasa basa nga muna kayo ng Bibliya bago kayo mag react.
DeletePara lang tong si Miriam Q. Porke't nagborn again na self righteous na.
DeleteAh nerereject niyo pala yung post niya dahil me bisitang mahalaga.
Delete@1:04 whos saying n nirereject? These words of God are instilled in my heart and my head.
Delete12:58 "palibhasa walang alam sa bible" that's so disappointing ti hear from someone who, i assume, knows everything about the bible tsk
DeleteIf it is her intention is to remind herself, she should have kept it to herself.
DeleteHer posting of these make two things clear:
1. She thinks Catholics think that the Pope is God (clearly we dont)
2. She is making parinig. It is no different from when you post "inspirational" quotes na may pinatatamaan sya. Apparently people are not as stupid as she thinks as we see through her so she makes this lame excuse that she thinks we will buy.
The Pope Mania represents a thirst for a spiritual leader who will be their guide. A shepherd who will remind them that admist this frustrating world we live in, we can always turn to Christ who never lets us down. That, Ms Quigaman and followers, is what this Pope brouhaha is about. He fulfills the need for spiritual guidance even for a bit. Which is difficult to get from your divisive and arrogant ways. Yes, we see through you.
Maybe she just needs something to jumpstart her career again. Wait, what career?
Kaya nagkakagera dahil sa religion eh. Hindi naman nyo alam kung aling religion ang totoo. Lahat nagkeclaim na totoo.
ReplyDeleteThink before you click kasi teh. Napaka wrong timing ng banat mo kasi e. Ayan tuloy.. binanatan ka ng followers! hahahaha!
ReplyDeleteWhats wrong with the Bible verse? Even your Pope believes on those things. People here are so narrow-minded. Geez!
DeleteSlow ka teh 1207
DeleteDeny pa, 12:07. You know what is bad? Using Bible verse to malign other people. That is what you people fail to see here.
DeleteSaid it right! Just like Satan did.
DeleteWala namang masama sa bible verse na pinost nya, di lang maganda yung "timing" na pag popost nya kasi masyadong obvious na nagpaparinig sya dahil sobrang daming nagpapakita ng pagmamahal kay Pope at sakto kung kelan nandito ang Santo Papa. Siguro kung nag post sya ng ganyan before dumating si Pope di naman magiging issue yan.
Deleteyou still are a public figure and your timing was just off, noboday said that Pope Francis is Jesus, he is an instrument which helped a lot of people find their way back to the Lord, just as how you are using your IG account to inspire others, respect other and you'll get it in return, it's that simple
ReplyDeleteQuoting Bible verses will not take away the malice in Lara's intention.
Deletesh*tup na 5.10...paulit ulit ka na lang.kasura ka na bakla
DeleteDid that hurt you 5:10?
DeleteWon't stop until you get it
DeleteNow you've got what you asked for. Walang kumokontra sa bible verses mo. Pero napakatiming naman ng posts mo. Alin artista lang ang pwedeng iidolize, tilian at abangan? Ibig sabihin sinasamba namin kayong mga artista pag grabe ang saya namin pag nagtutour kayo sa lugar namin. Celebrity sya kasi leader nga sya get mo? Deny pa more Pero sana maliwanagan ka din sa kamalditahan mo
ReplyDeleteYou said it right.
DeleteLike
DeleteTamah!!! Obvious naman na may pinatatamaan. Ka turn off lang kasi mukhang di nya kayang rumespeto ng ibang paniniwala.
DeleteLIKE!!! Very well said. Siya din type na type niyang idolize siya at tilian pero hindi niya type pag si Pope.
DeleteAy, Ekat may tama ka dyan, for sure! Kasi naman isa pa din palang parinig queen si Lara Quigaman. Aral aral din ng sensitivity pag may time!
ReplyDeleteTiming nman kase, she should've waited for other days to post these.
ReplyDeletetama naman si lara. ang ignorante lang talga ng mga netizens na yan. napaka-ironic nila.
ReplyDeleteO sya, Quigaman, your 15 minutes of resurgence is over. Balik ka na sa pagiging La Ocean. LOL
ReplyDeleteAminin na kasi. Marami talagang Pinoy ang misdirected ang devotion. Black Nazarene pa lang, makikita na kung gaano pinapahalagaan ng mga Pinoy ang mga simbolo kuno ng kanilang panalampalataya. Idolatry na yan e. And before you attack me with your rationalizations and justifications, mag-isip muna. Katoliko rin kaya ako, pero ginagamit ko rin ang utak ko at hindi ako nagpapadala sa doktrina lamang.
ReplyDeleteI am with you on this...btw, i'm a catholic too!
DeleteAgreed. Finally someone who sees the bigger picture.
Delete"Ipinanganak akong Katoliko at hindi ako sumasamba sa rebulto pero patnubay ko ang Poong Nazareno."
Delete~ A Nazarene Devotee from the streets while refuting fundamentalis Paul Christopher Faculin during the 2015 Nazareno Procession
this!
DeletePalusot si ate, common Lara,
ReplyDeleteAno bang masama sa post niya? As a THINKING Catholic, nagegets ko siya. Huwag kasi kayong magpakabulag sa doktrina. Even the Pope has stated na hindi dapat sa kanya nakafocus ang devotion natin.
ReplyDeleteTIMING. We are thinking too dont worry.
DeleteDin anong pinaglaban mo? People wanted to worship God together with the Pope, what's wrong with that? He is the leather of the Church ano bah?
Deletei agree with you. Timely naman tlga ang post nya.
DeleteRight on 1:11!
DeleteAng galing magpalusot ni ateng! God knows the truth.
ReplyDeleteInsensitive b! Holier than thou ang peg!
ReplyDeleteLara, be honest. Your post is quite timely and very telling. Sana direchuhin mo na lang, mas madame pang makakaintindi sayo. Kesa dinaan mo sa ganyang parinig tapos sasabihin mo 'reminder' mo? Ano yan, note to self, ganon?
ReplyDeleteSeriously bakit ang daming born again christian na galit sa activities ng mga katoliko? Inggit?
ReplyDeleteTrue haha
DeleteHonestly speaking, di din ba nagagalit ang Catholics pag may activities ang ibang religion? Duh?
Delete1130 HINDI kami nagagalit. Me narinig ka ba? Na naggenerate ng ganitong hate toward ibang denomination -born again Christian.
Delete11:30 you're just trying to turn the table on us. Maglabas ka muna ng ebidensya mo.
DeleteCatholics generally don't care about the activities of other religions unit they get bashed and accused of all sort of things which are not even true like idolatry, etc. It has been their method of proselytizing.
DeleteWhen fundamentalists attack Catholics they call it witnessing but when Catholics retort, they say its anger.
11:30 for example, may katoliko bang nagreklamo sa INC?
DeleteWe, born again Christians, are just trying to save the people by spreading the truth about God's words. Hindi kami naiingit :)
DeleteAyan, ikaw lol
DeleteDon't worry 1:03 we Catholics have been redeemed by Jesus Christ already. And we know God's words. In fact, we're the ones who compiled it.
Deletepalusot c ateng Lara hehe...wrong timing ka ateng...gus2 lng mpg-usapan habang ang leader ng catholic church ay nasa pinas,respect lng....pede nmn s ibang araw ka mg-gaganyan eh s jan.20! hndi nman kakitiran ng utak ang pgreact ng mga tao s post mu...halata lng na may hidden motive c ateng!
ReplyDeletePalusot dot com. Walang mali sa posts mo pero sana wag ngayon na nandito si Pope. He is the vicar of Christ, at least sa min nga katoliko so matuto ka dng rumespeto. Namakawalng gana ka.
ReplyDeleteHindi nya kelangan magpalusot. Those bible verses are words of God. Walang pagkakataon na mali or wala sa timing ang salita ng Dyos. Im just wondering now why are u people taking against the word of God.
DeleteThis case is not just a harmless quoting of the Bible. Even if we fully agree to the content of the verse, the intention in posting is still very doubtful. Remember that Satan also quoted Bible verses (Matthew 4:1-11) just like how Islamic Fundamentalists quoted Quran verses to justify their evil actions.
DeleteEven Satan quotes the Word of God. It all lies in the intention.
DeleteNothing wrong with the verse but the intention for posting is doubtful. Remember that even Satan quoted verses in front of Jesus Christ himself (Matthew 4:1-11)
DeleteBible verse is not wrong but the intention why it was quoted and how it is being interpreted may be wrong. Remember that even Satan quoted the scriptures in tempting Jesus. (Cf. Matthew 4:1-11; Luke 4)
DeleteMe sinabi ba akong mali 1:04? Out of context ka sa sinabi ko. Theres nowhere in what i posted that i am taking against the word of God. Defensive ang dating niya and thats how i see it.
DeleteEpal Lang! Miss know it all sa bible. Lol!
ReplyDeletehaha ok nga! buti sya may alam, ikaw wala.
DeleteWhat's wrong with her post? The mere fact that it's causing controversy, yun Sana inisip nya but maybe she wanted controversy, you got what you wanted so deal with it and stop crying for respect. Enjoy it while it lasts for maybe tomorrow your name will be forgotten again and your IG will be back for being quiet.
ReplyDeleteIt is so obvious that she is targeting Catholics and she will be lying if she denies it.
DeleteWala na kasw karir yan pati asawa nya. Nagpapapansin. Need pang gatas ng anak. Its so obvious. Yah nasa bible nga ung quotes nia. Common sana nilagyan na lang nia ng mas magandang caption at hindi tila nagpaparinig sa mga fans ni Pope...
ReplyDeleteThere is nothing wrong with the verses she posted but in the same way, as most of us know that those verses were the ones always being used by the "Christians" and "Born again" in their evangelization ways and the foundation of their argument in a "religious" conversation. And to post them now when she very well know that the Leader of the Catholic Church is here is somewhat insensitive and ill time. While her IG is her own space, she is a public figure and I think, she has intelligent followers to interpret that in posting those verses the intent was to remind us Catholics that it is not Pope Francis but Jesus Christ that should be the main focus of our attention. It would be hypocritical to say that her acts were made with innocent intention as what she is trying to point out ... for someone with intelligence like her, i'm sorry but i find it hard to believe. Maybe there was really no malice but it's not really that difficult if we practice prudence and sensitivity. We are not here to silence anyone but sometimes, it doesn't hurt to keep one's thought in deep silence some of the time.
ReplyDeleteThis case is not just a harmless quoting of the Bible. Even if we fully agree to the content of the verse, the intention in posting is still very doubtful. Remember that Satan also quoted Bible verses (Matthew 4:1-11) just like how Islamic Fundamentalists quoted Quran verses to justify their evil actions.
DeleteBorn again fundamentalists begin their proselytizing by attacking the Catholic Church because they cannot stand on their own. They quote the Bible without realizing that it is a Catholic book.
DeleteNaku bat kasi pinatulan nyo pa si lara...baka ikasikat pa nya yan...
ReplyDeleteAng tapang tapang hindi naman kayang pangatawanan yung gusto niyang iparating. Another starlet. lol
ReplyDeleteano bang gusto nyang iparating?
DeleteI am getting sick and tired of this anti-Catholic rants of so called Christians who trots the Bible and uses the verses and interprets the verses to their advantage. If thy Ms. Lara really knows the meaning of RESPECT then she should have shut the hell up and not post such on her PUBLIC( I assume, I do not follow her) social media account---which shows such insensitivity and pure disrespect to the people who looks up to the Pope as a leader of the Catholic church which by the way is the predominant religion of the country. Catholics do not have any problem with the so called Christians and the likes----no disrespectful stuff posted and such---so why post such when the Pope is here? Naturingan ka pa man ding may pinag-aralan, hindi mo naman ginagamit. Wala kang pinag kaiba sa mga ibang relihiyon na ang daming sinasabi sa Simbahang Katoliko. If you cannot tolerate Catholicism, then STFU.
ReplyDeleteBakit ka galit? Naturangan ka ding may pinagaralan ganyan ka?
DeleteRespect? Eh you don't respect her opinion nga eh. Tignan mo muna sarili mo kung di babalik sayo ang mga sinasabi mo. Pag religion niyo binabash dami niyo sinasabi. Pero you do that to other religion din naman eh, so san ang RESPECT na sinasabi mo?
DeleteHey 2:31AM, did she ever say she's anti-catholic?? or gusto mo talagang yun ang maging interpretation ng posts nya? if she's bashing on catholicism, she wouldn't have said that she "respects the pope and is grateful to him". And why NOT post such? What's exactly WRONG with what this "so called" Christian woman posted? Maybe you're the one who needs to STFU, oh holy one.
DeleteNah, she's only saying that she respects and is grateful to the pope as an excuse because of the reaction of people.
DeleteSo many people blinded by the truth. Funny how far people can go and persecute someone for saying the truth. Walang kaibahan sa sinasabi nilang mali. I am a Born Again Christian, an I personally admire the Pope for two things. 1) He speaks of the truth - truth that is written in the Bible (which we all are commanded to follow) 2) He practice what he preaches.
ReplyDeleteNobody has a single right to persecute someone for her beliefs. Catholic are Christians too, di ko alam kung anong pinaglalaban nyo.
I still don't see how her posts implied "insensitivity" and "rudeness" when it speaks nothing but the truth that is also written on the Bible you use.
How you put someone to shame because of their faith would bring you nowhere. Katoliko ka man, Born Again, INC, Muslim o kung ano pa, kung masama naman ginagawa mo sa kapwa mo wala din.
Sa sasagot dito, bago ka sumagot, isipin mo kung wala kang nagawang mali sa tanang buhay mo, kung wala feel free to put me down. Same thing goes for Lara, criticize her for her act and belief if you wouldn't do the same to express your faith.
You are so right. And kung Catholic ka man, wag din kayo magmalinis.
DeleteWhile there is nothing wrong about the verse she quoted, her intention is still a subject of doubt as it seems that there is malice in it and people finds offence in this.
DeleteYes, all of us have committed mistakes but that should not be an excuse not to correct things done wrong.
DeleteUng pinagalalaban namin the same wat na ipinagalalaban niyo din. Malinaw ba? We have saints, we have the Pope. We respect and adore them but we know that they are not GOD nor JESUS. They are for us tangible manifestations of Gods Love. We get lara's point. We just deem her timing is inappropriate.
DeleteWala rin akong makitang Mali sa post in Lara. Wrong timing? Need ba ng timing sa pag-share ng words of God?
DeleteShe should not have lied in her excuses lol
DeleteThe fact that people some are actually offended shows just how little they know of their own religion. Most probably heard some verses from attending mass but never read the bible themselves thus they lack understanding. You're proclaiming to defend your religion which obviously you don't practice.
Delete@5:02 while there is nothing wrong with the verse she quoted, I can't seem to find any reasons why someone should assume that the verses are intended for someone. Not because you posted a verse doesn't mean you are posting it for somebody. Same way with what you call "timing" @ 6:06 - should there be a schedule for posting such? Not everyone hates your doctrines, nor question them, same way na hindi rin lahat naiintindihan ng iba.
DeleteAnd 5:04 I get your point but don't we all make mistakes? Papano mo namang iput down ang isang tao for something she did na inassume lang naman na mali. We all fall short of His holiness, so bakit mo pupukulin ang isang tao dahil lang akala mo may ginagawang mali.
11:45 How do you know that we know little of our own religion? We've been tolerating the bashing and the accusations from all those born againts and now we answer.
Delete7:27 Yes, timing and intention is also important. Remember when Satan quoted scripture verses to Jesus? See Matthew 4: 1-11
DeleteBorn againsts alway say that all all have sinned (which is true) but act as if they are the only righteous ones.
DeleteI usually post based from the knowledge I gained by reading books, interviews, research and such. Bible... collection of supposed personal encounters by his followers. May panahon na nagtutugma ang bawat personal encounters at may iba na hindi. So.. tanong ko Lara. Sigurado ka ba sa mga nakasulat sa bible? People can bash me anytime. E sa personal paniniwala ko ito e. Kanya kanya lang yan. #POSTPAMORE
ReplyDeleteKatoliko ako at natutuwa sa epekto ng pagdating ng pope sa paniniwala ng mga tao pero sumasang-ayon din ako sa sinabi ni Lara. Pauli-ulit na sinasabi ng pope na wag siyang gawing sentro kundi ang Diyos pero parang hindi naman gets ng iba. Maraming ipokrita ang nasa lansangan, nag-aabang na makita ang papa, at makapag post ng picture pero hindi iniintindi at isinasapuso ang mensaheng dala niya.
ReplyDeletePano mo naman nasabi na hindi nila naisapuso ung mensahe? May mga kilala ka siguro ng personal pero wag mo lahatin.
DeleteYeah, how do you know? Can you fathom hearts?
DeleteActually, wasn't she resounding what the Pope has been saying all this time? Focus on Jesus!
ReplyDeleteI agree on the message. Not on the intention. Don't be blind.
DeleteLara ikaw almin mo muna ang ibig sabihin ng respect.
ReplyDeletesana hindi mo na pinost te. epal tuloy datingan mo.
ReplyDeleteJesus at the center of it all. From beginning to the end,it will always be, it's always been you JESUS...
ReplyDeleteSame message Pope Francis is saying. And thank you Lara and all the born against fundamentalists from quoting from a Catholic book~ The Bible.
DeletePope Francis is Jesus' instrument in giving the true message of Faith and Hope in the Philippines...He didn't proclaim himself as greater than Jesus... I cried when he did the lithurgy mass in UST...grbe lang..
ReplyDeletePampam. Spineless. I'm Catholic but I have enough "Christian" relatives to know na nagpapatama ka albeit under the guise of freedom of expression. Respect you say but you obviously don't have that for the faith the Pope represents. It would be better if you just say that as is, what you really think of the Pope and the Catholic Church's hierarchy instead of posting some passive aggressive crap then cowering under "my account, my opinion" blah blah. Be honest. Baka sumikat ka pa for real :)
ReplyDeleteSuper like
DeleteCouldn't agree more.
DeleteWhat is she implying... tsk tsk tsk... Turn-off.
ReplyDeleteMga tao nmn kasi todo emote kay pope, bili bili tshrt, picture picture, abang abang sa kalye, pero pag alis ni pope balik sa dating gawi.. Oo inspiring c pope, pero kht sana walanac pope, magtuloy tuloy..
ReplyDeleteEh ano naman ngayon d naman ikaw nagbigay ng pambili nila. They just found too much love, inspiration, encouragement, from Pope Francis. Si Pope kc is representing Jesus that is why sobrang tuwa ng mga tao na makita siya and more importantly magkakasala pa rin yang mga yan pag wala na si Pope. Know y. Because tao sila at makasalanan ang tao...but still there is Jesus, our hope and our salvation.
Deletewell, obviously nagpapasaring siya. Thats my opinion. Basta kami, happy sa pagdating ni Pope Francis.
ReplyDeleteYes, she does while guising it as witnessing and then eventually lying about her intentions. Tsk...
DeleteNakuu may nasaktan na pinoy. Eh di i-persona non grata na si Lara Quigaman! Hahaha
ReplyDelete/sarcasm
No one will win sa mga ganitong arguments. Hayaan na natin si Lara, hayaan nadin natin ang fellow catholics natin and people of other religions. Magfocus tayo sa pagbabago ng mga sarili natin. Mahirap yang puna tayo ng puna ng iba, yung mismong mga sarili naman natin eh bulok. Maliit na bagay lang yan kung tutuusin. Lets each mind our own business and be better versions of ourselves. God bless everyone and sana mafeel natin ang presence ni God sa bawat isa.
ReplyDeletewala na kasing career ang bruha... laos na kaya nakikiride kay pope francis... paepal lang sya...
ReplyDeleteMay kilalA akong christian na every week nagchchurch but pagnakatalikod ka sisiraan ka. Tsk tsk buti pa si pope kahit na sino tinatanngap. You can see that he is so sincere. Dapat ganun kahit na hindi kayo parehas ng religion e dapat same treatment and willing ka pa rin makapagkaibigan. Yun ang totoo naniniwala kay christ. Open for all no evil intension
ReplyDeleteShe said she would always post bible verses? Check her IG.. How timely for her to post those 2 specific ones while Pope Francis is here. What I don't understand is why she had to explain herself. " To those who believe, no explanation is necessary. To those who don't believe, no explanation is possible. "
ReplyDeleteYes.. There's nothing wrong with your posts but what about your intentions dear Lara? C'Mon we're not that dumb. Also, make sure that you are quoting based on our bible and not yours. I just hope you know that your bible (whatever your religion is) was taken from the ones that we, Catholics, are reading. You just deleted/edited it to suit your own personal agenda. Do you even know that???
ReplyDeleteRespect begets respect.
RESPECT.
ReplyDeleteObviously Lara, hindi mo alam ang ibig sabihin nito.
Obviously Lara, may ibig kang sabihin sa post mo,
Palusot ka pa. Yan ang hirap sa mga nagpaconvert sa Ibang religion, mga feeling righteous akala mo mga know-it-all, Catholic was here more than 2000 years ago. For all we know, walang original na fake. Lahat naman ng religion, aminin ninyo, based sa Catholicism, Huwag mong sabihing d ka nagValentines Day which is in honor of St. Valentinus. Walang itinurong masama sa Inyo ang simbahang Katoliko kundi pagmamahal sa Diyos, kapwa, pagpapatawad, pagpapakumbaba, atop. Hindi katulad ng Ibang religion, dumarami sa paninira ng ibang reilgion na pinapaniwalaan ng iba dahil d kalaliman ang alam nila sa faith nila.
Sana Lara, sa iyo at sa iba pa, kung aalis kayo sa dati ninyong religion, matuto naman kayo ng salitang respeto. That is why I salute Gary V and Angel Locsin, non-Catholics but have so much respect for others unlike those who keep on bashing and judging other people.
FP EFFORT ITO. Pakipublish naman. Ty and more power!
Hahaha...teh haba nang paliwanag mo...mga palusot...eh talaga namang parinig eh..ang ibig nyang sabihin si jesus lang dapat hangaan hindi si pope..dibah teh...palusot much...
ReplyDeletewhich is totoo naman.
DeleteArte mo ah! Di na b*b* mga utaw ngayon. Yan ang hirap eh kami naman di naman kayo masyado nakakarinig samin tas kayo konting kibot ang dami-daming sinasabi. Isipin niyo na lang talagang naglaan pa siya ng oras para lang sa mga taga-Tacloban. Mga utak talaga. Maybe you should tell that to yourself, Lara! RESPECT!
ReplyDeleteThis argument about religion is just a pinoy thing!! I have attended non-catholic services abroad at never ko narinig sa pastor or sa leader nila na hinihikayat ang ibang religion na maging membro nila.. They would just preach about God and what the bible said... Never malign other religion... Pero dito lang sa pinas ko naexperience na nagpepreach pero my parinig pa towarda other religion!
ReplyDeleteYep. They will first you to their "fellowship" saying they're not about religion.
DeleteThen they'll say you are not yet saved.
Then they will bug you because it's their duty to have you saved.
Then they'll malign your religion and say they are the only ones who are saved until you actually join them.
But of course they will not admit it's a religion.
Former Miss International,hindi porke nakapagbigay ka ng karangalan sa bansa natin,magpapaka self righteous ka jan.matuto kang rumespeto tulad ng pag respeto ni pope sa ibang religions.and if u have been watching the tv closely,he made it clear many times that filipino people should focus on Jesus Christ and not him,he is just an instrument.pasok mo exit din e noh.row 4 ka teh! tandaan mo,religion will not save humanity but faith alone.naturingan kang christian,alam mo dapat yun!
ReplyDeleteWala masama sa post at timing niya. Napasama lang kasi hindi ayon sa paliwanag niya for her intention of posting it is a reminder for herself when she posted it publicly in social media. She can right it down sa post it notes na lang.
ReplyDeletecorrect!!
DeleteNothing wrong at all with her post. Religion will never get anyone to heaven, only when you have Christ in your heart as your Lord and Savior.
ReplyDeleteHer page, her business. :) Get off it then if you hate what she says.
ReplyDeletePara san ba nagpopost siya at nakabukas sa publiko kung para sa personal consumption nya lang ung page niya?
DeleteJust because someone opens up their pages to the public is not an invitation to bash. Your views may be different from hers but where does an anonymous person get the moral authority to lecture or criticize someone else? Anyone who opens a public page shares their thoughts --- but again, the doesn't mean people should take the opportunity to use her own opinions against her.
DeleteFilipinos are too sensitive. Hindi marunong mag practice nang self-restraint. Pwede naman hindi magcomment di ba? But noooo~ Kailangan talaga magmarunong palagi. If you don't believe in her post then don't say anything. Mga netizens ngayon puro balat sibuyas.
ReplyDeleteang hirap kasi sa mga ibang christians they think they know better than catholics. HUMILITY ata ang unang kailangan matutunan ng mga tulad ni lara quigaman. i am a catholic but i respect all religion. i always say if your religion makes your faith stronger and it pushes you to help the needy, then go! never judge. this quigaman should not have won the miss international title kasi mukhang kakarampot lang ang pag-iisip nya.
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