I feel the same way. Not because people normally stay long in Starbucks means it's right. You stay a decent amount of time so other customers can also sit down. Or buy another cup of coffee and earn your right to the seat.
@2:22AM: Well, it only shows na hindi ka nag Starbucks masyado. It is a study place particularly for medicine and law students. There's nothing wrong with it.
Honey in this digital age coffee houses are not only for tete -a-tete. They can also be a coffice and by the way even the homeless can stay there as long as they buy any of their products. Go to your nearest SB , coffeebean , peet's, , alchemy, king's coffee, bean scene et al..
@2:22- mukhang ndi ka din madalas sa Starbucks. wag mo lang iprio ang medicine at law students.
basta lahat ng students na gusto ng quiet place for study tambay mode dun. sama nyo pa ung mga nagpapalipas ng traffic. gusto magrelax after work. mga nagnenetworking. mga pasosyal.mga coffee adik. basta madami.
kahit sa ibang bansa, madaming estudyante sa starbucks. minsan 3-4 estudyante lang sila sa isang malaki at mahabang table tapos nakakalat dun yung mga papers nila.
@2:50 starbucks just like u said is a place to unwind it is definitely NOT a place to study the only reason why it became that way is because of its Free wifi..as u said theres othing wrong with it but its aPUBLIC place its for EVERYBODY.this is more of personal responsibility and respect for other people not because it became a study place doesnt mean student have the right to do or stay as long as they want! Like i say its a public place
for real? anon 2:50..medicine and law students talaga...as far as I know medicine and law students want to study in place quieter than starbucks....you can see real students studying inside a freaking library not starbucks...get real ! masabi lang kasing nasa starbucks may halong selfie pa sikat na...suskopo..order your coffee, have a quick conversation or what not...read a a few pages of your fave novel then leave...don't hog the damn place like you own it for a small frapp....you know you know this all too well..
Well, actually its not. Merong tinatawag na LIBRARY or study halls. Back in the good ol' days, di uso ang coffee shops. We do study groups sa mga school rooms or arrange for meet ups sa mga bahay-bahay ng kaklase. Libre coffee and meryenda pa un. Here in Singapore, nagpopost ng reminder ang starbucks na appreciate nila kung pedeng di gawing study hall ung establishment nila specially during peak hours or kung maraming customers(kung pde lang sana magpost ng pic dito, i could snap a photo of such advise). But we digress in reference dun sa above post, they are there for a catch up with a friend, which is on the fence ako kse pag nagchikahan talaga mejo nakakalimot talaga ng time. However, common courtesy din na pag tapos na kumain, sana e igive-up na ung seat for the other customers. There are other places din to do the kwentuhan na di ka maiistorbo and d ka makakaistorbo. Side note: magaling sya magsulat ha, blogger maybe? For a student, me future sya sa writing :)
Oh and btw, i'm not a middle aged person as referred to by the post LOL
Charina mentioned na hindi pa nga niya naubos yung food and drink niya pero nagpaparamdam at nagpaparinig na yung isa. Dun siya nainis kasi nga naman di pa sila tapos kung anu-ano na ginagawa nung isang babae from the other group. Wala naman masama kung magkwentuhan sila sa Starbucks. Yun ang napagusapan nilang meeting place e.
Ginagawang study space ang starbucks cos they're open til midnight and some are even 24hrs while libraries are open til 9pm lang. And sa Starbucks may coffee and food while most libraries prohibit bringing food and drinks inside. Common courtesy lang naman na kung wala nang upuan, maghintay patiently na may mabakante or move to another coffee shop. Even the baristas of coffee shops are taught na wag magpaalis ng customer cos bastos yun.
Starbucks is not a study place nor it is a library.. I agree on that.. But i am honestly one of the guilty students who studies at starbucks.. Not because of selfies or feeling pacool.. But it is a comfortable place FOR ME to study there.. Kanya kanya tayo ng diskarte sa pagaral.. If you're comfortable at home or at a quiet place then i/we respect that.. But Please respect our way of studying too.. And to be honest.. I've been studying at Starbucks for more than 7 years.. From my bachelor's degree to my master's and now to my law school.. And excuse my rudeness but we are the regular customers.. We are the ones who contributes to starbucks.. Because we go there everyday and we order not only once per day.. We also eat there and enjoys their food.. So yeah.. Even if may bagyo.. Nandun po kame.. Bumibili.. Nagdadala ng mas maraming customers as we invite our friends.. At hindi po kame nandun para mag #SELFIE #starbucks #frappe.. Nandun po kame para continuous na may tao at may benta.. At hindi po kame pumupunta para makicharge lang dahil #blackout #bagyo.. If you have a problem with starbucks being a study place.. Report it to the officials.. Tell them to tell us not to study there.. Thats gonna be half a million loss from my group only per year.. Yes that's small.compared to what they earn but still half a million is still half a million..
RESPECT AT CONSIDERATION FOR OTHERS ...... Di ba tinuro yan ng magulang mo. Pag nakita mo madami na tao at halos wala na maupuan then it's time for you to leave. Siguro naman tama na ang 30 minutes para matapos ang frap mo at cinnamon. Ilang oras mo ba balak makipagchikahan at ubusin yung binili mo.Hindi dahil sa hindi fastfood yun at nakabili ka lang ng frap at cinnamon dapat ka na magbabad sa pakikipagchikahan sa mga friends mo sa Starbucks. Wala ba kayong mga bahay????
Pag nakita mo madami na tao at halos wala na maupuan then it's time for you to... find another coffee shop. Kesa naman manghharass ka pa ng ibang nakaupo na. Respect nga diba
Huy, ang coffee shop eh talagang tambayan. Aba eh, di dun ka mag order ng kape sa McDo. Anon 2:26, lumabas labas ka naman kaya para ma getz mo ang kultura ng coffee shops. Sa Europe nga ang mga street cafes halos dun na nakatira at mas maraming matatanda na nakatambay. Kung occupied ang mga tables just say, "Is that seat taken?" sa nagkakape na nag iisa lang sa table. Baka single yun, kung guapo at mabait, di jackpot ka. Tatak na yan ng coffee shops na may mga nakatambay ng matagal..... and the owners/operators welcome it. They worry more kung walang tumatambay sa coffee shops nila.
Sang-ayon ako sa yo. May mga kabataan kasi ngayon na akala nila status symbol pag nakakapasok sa starbucks. Akala nila porke't nakabili na sila ng 1 frappe eh pwede na sila mag-stay sa SB the whole day. Coffee shops around the world are made for coffee drinkers and those who want to destress hindi para mag-catch up. Catching up will take hours. And alam mo na busy ang SB Malolos bakit plano mo pang mag-stay ng mas matagal? There are parks or restos where you can stay for hours if you prefer to catch up with your friends. Wag masyadong pasosyal, hija. Estudyante ka pa lang at galing pa sa magulang mo ang pinambili mo ng frappe at cinnamon bun. And FYI, kapag busy ang coffee shops, dapat 30 mins ka lang mag-stay to give consideration to others. Picture na agad ng mai-post sa IG at facebook.
My dear ateng in this digital nomad culture it is acceptable for these kids to stay in the coffee shop as long as they buy the products and they don't stay beyond closing hours. A full coffeeshop is better than an empty one. Obviously those matured ladies are so ignorant of this culture that's why they were being obnoxious. I work in the financial district in SF honey were coffee shops abound. These places are packed with students , professionals and entrepreneurs alike. Those ladies need to go somewhere else that can accommodate their group or in an intimate place where they can have their conference . The only time the act becomes egregious is when their butts have occupied the chair for more than 2 hours and they have not bought something. Those ladies need to learn the word coffice ... Haha ha!
Wow respect and consideration! What about those matured ladies??? They also need to educate themselves about coffeeshop etiquette. From what I understood from this student's rant they were totally obnoxious. My friend even the homeless can sit on that chair the whole day as long as he buys the shops products. Merry Xmas and May the new year give you more insight and knowledge ...
@3:06 its true BUT people in europe know the word RESPECT meaning they can stay as long as theyvwant if theres not much customers otherwise they leave after they are done!!sa pinas walang pakialam kahit kalahating araw na nasa SB at isang Frapp at cinnamon lang ang inorder nila.Its business nit a charity or publicly funded coffee shop
Anon 226 AM: majonda ka na kasi at di mo alam ang dynamics sa Starbucks. Doon ang tambayan ng nag-aaral at nagpapasosyal. Modeled on cafes abroad yan--yung nasa Europe, na tambayan talaga. Kung di mo matanggap e di ikaw ang manatili sa bahay haha!
For sure, isa cya sa nasa picture...Alin ka doon 2:26AM? Manang, mas bastos po ung nakaupo ung tao tas papaalisin mo. Kami, pag nakita namin puno na ung coffee shop, sasabihin ko sa friends ko "puno dito e, tara hanap tayo iba" hindi ung haharassin ko ung naka-upo na. kahit si mama na senior citizen hindi gagawin un. We would just look for another shop. Probably doon sa mas mahal pa para sure na may upuan. Walang problema samin. Ugaling squatter lang yung ginawa nung mga manang sa story... mga squatter d marunung mag respect ng space and privacy ng tao. I know, may mga squatter na ko na encounter na ganyan. Coffee shop yun mam, hindi jolibee. Where old friends catch up, business folks chat up with their colleagues or even meetup with clients, students studying...kahit sa USA po, ganyan din. Pero since first time mo mag Starbucks, I guess you wouldn't know :P So sige, try mo istorbohin ang isang group of businessmen sa tactics nyong yan. Good luck sa inyo #FirstTimeMagStarbucks
Do you really wanna know why mahal ang kape sa starbucks?! You don't actually pay for your coffee, you're paying for your stay in the place! So you have the right to stay there as long as you want, because you paid for it.
True enough! Tamabayan talaga ang Starbucks. Di dapat ipagpilitan nila manang ang gusto nila. Kung walang space, eh di hanap ng ibang coffee shop na may malaking space!
Kung madalas sila magStarbucks, dapat alam nila na madaming customers ang nagsstay talaga for a long period of time regardless kung they're done na with their food and drinks. You're lucky if may mga tao na willing to leave kahit di pa sila tapos para lang makaupo ka.
6 kami sa barkada and if gusto lang namin ng coffee, laging to-go kami. But if may agenda talaga kami (school stuff), nagsstay talaga kami kahit alam namin na limited nalang ang seats for other customers but once we're done, alis narin agad.
Anon 11:48 dami mong problema sa buhay. Simpleng bagay hindi mo magets. Fishball nga tinatambayan kahit nakatayo at mainit. SB pa kaya na malamig ang AC, Malambot ang sofa, may wifi, maraming magaganda at gwapo sa mata. Simpleng psychology lang kaya couch ang halus upuan sa mga coffee shop (hindi lahat) because they want their customer to stay comfortably as long as they want. Iba nga may sarili ka pang mug o "tasa" para personalized at feel at home ka. Kaloka itong mga ito.
ako hindi ako palaging tumatambay sa mga coffee shops pero alam ko ang kalakaran sa mga ganyan..its basic GMRC actually na dapat wag maging bastos at wag mangharass. the middle-aged woman should know that at her age..I'm sure may mga anak at apo na sila so I'm wondering what kind of manners she teaches her children and grandchildren
2:26 Madame, sa starbucks pwede pong magtagal at magchikahan for hours kahit ubos na yung kape nyo. that's what it's established for. first time nyo po? you should have asked for assistance sa staff, or better yet, naghanap nalang kayo ng ibang coffee shop na kasya kayong 15. respect begets respect.
Hmmmm, obviously the oldies are not familiar with the coffee shop culture. Most likely when they relate their experience to their kids and kin, who, I suppose are more familiar with the "norm" in coffee shops they will all say, "Ooooh, ganun pala." Yung iba nga dito sa Canada, halos mag hapon na sa mga coffee shops dahil sa wifi. Ok lang, kasi, parang promo din yun sa coffee shop dahil ganun nga ang crowd nila.
You do not know what you are talking about. I frequently travel to canada and the US. While it is true that people study and just hang out in coffee shops, people in Canada and in the USA do not do this during peak hours. That's called basic courtesy, which is apparently a very alien notion to a lot of Filipinos.
Anon 2:45 AM depende yan kung saan ka na lugar kasi dito sa amin kahit starbucks or other coffee shops palaging puno. there was a time na dalawang oras akong tumambay ng starbucks kasi may hinihintay ako, meron ding mas nauna pa sa akin at nandun pa rin kahit nung umalis ako. hindi naman kasi parehas ng mga restaurant ang turnover ng mga coffee shop kaya kung walang makitang upuan either maghintay or maghanap na lang ng ibang coffee shop.
As someone born and raised in the United States, and goes to cafes frequently, I can say with complete confidence that it is YOU who does not know what you are talking about. If you want to talk about lack of manners, along with a bullying "holier-than- thou " attitude, these women are perfect example
Totally agree with you. It's ok to stay in a coffeeshop for more than an hour if there are no other people waiting to be seated. Yes, it is a study place, but this is still a coffe shop. Let's be considerate since there are other paying customers. However, the manner they were treated by the mid aged women is something to be despised about too.
I agree with you 2:45! Dito lang naging practice yan. May tamang oras na gawing tambayan ang isang lugar regardless kung coffee shop or not. Rude ung ginawa nung thunders pero di rn tama na isipin nung mga bata na tambay time yon kc the place was jam packed.
I agree with you 2:45! Dito lang naging practice yan. May tamang oras na gawing tambayan ang isang lugar regardless kung coffee shop or not. Rude ung ginawa nung thunders pero di rn tama na isipin nung mga bata na tambay time yon kc the place was jam packed.
I live in Canada....and Anon 2:29AM is right. Doesn't matter which ethnicity, or whether its peak hours, people hang out for a long time in coffee shops. Lol
I agree. Nagpunta kami sa US several times for business. Puro kami pinoy at nung unang beses kami pumunta sa Starbucks, puro vacant ang seats. Mahaba yung pila pero lahat ng tao nagmamadali and gusto nila"to go" yung order na coffee and doughnut. Kami lang yung nag-stay para inumin yung coffee dun. Hindi lang naman sa isang state ko naranasan yun kaya malamang hindi tambayan ang Starbucks sa US. Bumibili lang sila ng coffee tapos aalis na.
NOT! 2:45 OA ka. Kahit sa States and Europe ganyan paren basta bumibili ka paren ng goods nila habang tumatagal ang pagtambay mo sa coffee shop kahit nga sa pubs eh. That's what I do and I'm not the only one who does that.
Ditto! While it is very common for us filipinos to sit and stay longer in coffee shops, we should also consider the other customers who need seats. These middle-aged women may have crossed the border in pressuring u guys to leave, but i think u should also know when to take the initiative to leave and give others the chance to at least finish their beverage while seated!
Anon 2:45, dear, of course I know what I am talking about. I am from Canada and when we first moved here we wanted to open a coffee shop and so we researched the culture of coffee shop. Peak hours? Some job interviewers conduct their interviews at coffee shops, and yes, during peak hours. Trust me, I know what I am talking/writing about. Anon 2:29
On-the-go naman kasi mga tao sa US kaya di sila masyado nagsstay lalo na talaga pag peak hours. Kaya nga 'peak' e. Mas maraming tao so ang tendency talaga is to buy your drink then go.
tigilan nyo na ang pagdedefend sa mga coffee shop squatters. ang pinsan ko po ay manager sa isang branch ng starbucks sa makati at matagal na nilang problema yang mga tambay ng tambay lang. aabutin ng limang oras isang kape lang binibili, even when there are a lot of people looking for seats. just because they allow it, di naman ibig sabihin pwede nang abusuhin. tama yung nag post sa taas, karamihan kasi ng mga Pilipino walang BASIC COURTESY
my dear the "coffee shop culture" that you are pertaining to varies. Most hole in the wall coffee shops, or those branches of Starbucks near parks, villages or schools, it's true they welcome these people who just hang out. lalo na those branches na nag-attract na ng art crowd. But in high traffic areas like business districts or inside malls, mali naman yung ginagawang tambayan ang mga yan, lalong lalo na kung peak hours!
In this case i agree mali yung mga matatanda. they could have asked nicely, at isa pa hindi pa nga nila nauubos yung binili nila minamadali na sila. Pero huwag naman natin igeneralize. marami talaga ang umaabuso sa patakaran ng Starbucks, feeling nila pwede na sila tumambay buong araw. just because hindi sila pinapaalis tingin nila okay lang. You know what you are talking about? sige magbukas ka ng coffee shop, tingnan ko lang kung matuwa ka kung ang mga customers mo isang drink lang ang bibilhin then mag stay for 5 hours or more, then makikita mo may potential customers ka na maghahanap na lang ng ibang coffee shop dahil wala nang maupuan.
Mali ang daing mo te... Yan ang tntwag n discretion at hiya... Hndi s lahat ng sb gnyan, lalo kng hndi bawat sulok ang branch...feeling sosyal n sosyal ka nman porket lagi nksb...
Ay naku, mga jueteng operator yan or nagkukubrahan ng paluwagan or kun anu-anung pyramiding scams. It's useless to teach then some manners, because first of all, it's not in their blood! Trust me, di yan tatalaban nitong post mu. Just move along, rules in the jungle: treat others the same way they treat you, period. If it were me, I could have been b**chier!
Honestly, as per SB, what youre paying in their coffee shop is the experience. Ambience, brand, experience and not so much of the coffee. Also based on the interior design of a coffee shop, it is designed to be comfty, meaning medyo tambayan talaga. So for me rude yung mga middle-aged women...this is not fastfood chain where everything is designed so you can eat-and-go kasi even the choices of chairs in a fastfood eh medyo comfty lang....enough to sit and eat but not to stay and hang-out. Haayy pag puno dapat wag mamilit magpaalis ng tao. Find another coffee shop nalang
Yes u pay for the "experience". HOWEVER you should also have the courtesy for other customers. Not that i am in favor of pressuring people to leave once finished, thats just so wrong of course. but it does not even have to reach this point before you realize that there are some people waiting too!
Lol natawa ako sa dami nila... kung ganyan sila kadami dpt dun sila sa sa place na pwede mgpa reserve. As what i see from their faces mukhang first time nila mg SB... si lola sa gitna ayaw mgpatalo sa kaka gala... gusto nka sb pa.... lol
charina, alam mo ba ang coffee ginagawa lang yan sa mga maiikling kwentuhan, kinda like a date, kapag hindi mo gusto kausap mo, tapusin mo na yan coffee mo kagad, kapag napapasarap ang usapan, sa ibang venue na ginagawa, hindi po office yan, isa sa pinaka annoying na mga tao sa sb eh yung bibili ng maliit na baso ng kape tapos makiki wifi. try nyo kaya magkwentuhan sa restaurant (hindi fastfood ha) or sa bahay nyo, ng sa ganun, walang mang iistorbo sa inyo
Upon looking at those old lady, we could not expect anything from them dahil mgs barriotic ang itsurahin nila. Who knows, 4 months silang nag-labada na magkaka berks just to enjoy a frappuccino hahaha!!! At ang mga bag, mukhang sume-Secosana hahaha!!! Mga social climbers na labandera...
hey! hindi porke nag Sb eh social climber na! fyi! sampu sampera na lang ngayon ang kape sa Sb! at kahit saang sulok may store sila! kawawa ka naman... akala mo siguro sosyal ka kapag uminom ng kape sa Sb! hahahaha... pathetic!
Sa tingin mo teh, kung can afford yan SB lng ba ang iinumin nyan? Women in their 40s na can afford would prefer coffee shops sa hotel lobbies kc mas tahimik. Di magpapakacheap magSB. They wont treat coffee as a status symbol unlike the lower class. Just saying.
Upon looking at your comment, we could not expect any courtesy from a rude person like you who doesn't have any manners! May problema ka ba sa mga labandera? Kung walang labandera, eh di lahat ng damit mo mabaho! Hello!!! Okay nang punahin mo yung ginawa nila na hindi maganda pero to brand them as "labandera" is just foul. Kung makapang-mata ka just because you think you have a better-paying job doesn't make you a better individual.
di nman pang sosyal ang starbucks... pang mga taong gustong magkape at may pambili... may notion kse ang ibang pinoy na pag nasa starbucks sila ay sosyal na sila ... normally un nagiisip nun social climber kagaya mo... duhhhh
Meron akong napanood one time sa show ni Kris Aquino about time etiquette sa isang coffee shop or how long can you stay there basta ba you are consuming their products/goods, correct me if i am wrong parang 2 hrs yata un, then you have to buy another. Pero regardless, i think it was rude of those older people to impose don sa mga younger ones kahit na ba onti lang or paubos na ung pagkain nila, coffee shops are designed for small/medium sized groups and not for a large group kasi nga the space is limited and hindi sia designed tipong pang restaurant or fast food where you can freely grab and re-arrange chairs so all of you can seat in one big group, pwera nalang if in advance you have contacted that shop that you wanted it like that. Ewan ko minsand kasi feeling ng mga tao, pag napatungtong sila sa isang coffee shop eh yayamanin na sila or they are very "susyal" na but one thing is for sure, manners should always be exercised, mano bang magtanong ung older woman if you guys are about to be finished na so they can wait properly at mano bang ikaw mismo younger girl, you must have said something into na likes ng "Excuse me po, do you need anything from us?" so that could have sparred you from super inis (because kung ako ang nandian i would have been inis too, but wait i did that pala just recently hahaha i asked the rude girl about the same thing and i got the result that i want, she walked away.. lolz)
But anyhoo, oks na yan girl, churva na lang sia, isipin mo nalang na uhaw na sa kape ang mga lola mo.... hahaha *joke*
Benta ang budang! ^_^ But seriously, this makes sense. I, for one, never tried studying in Starbucks kase I'm easily distracted by people (especially cute guys LOL) so I'd rather stay in the farthest corner of our library, listen to the buzz of the electric fan/air-con than try to tune out noise. Anyhoooooo, I think the girl ranting is from the same school as me (judging by that 'Sixwillfix' tag). Ewan ko din ba pero ang burgis din naman nya ng very, very slide (LOL). I would have done the same as yours Anon to try asking what I can do for them kesa makipag-tagisan ka ng ugali sa mga manang. We expect more from the learned to handle this better. That's all.
Kung sino mattanda sila tlaga bastos. Ung experience k nmn sa S&R. Accidentally i hit a middle-aged lady with my cart right away i said sorry pero graveh sya. Nagtatalak b nmn sabi sakin can't you see me? Sabhin k sana sa lapad nio imposibleng d k kayo mapansin. Diniinan k nlng ang pag sasabi k ng sorry pra malaman nya na d k sya aatrasan. Hay naku! Bwisit! Ung iba nakapag S&R lang feeling entitled.
I completely understand you. Starbucks "culture" is different from the other fastfood places. I stayed at Starbucks for 2 hours while waiting for my car to be fixed, and had a grande mocha, bottled water and a pastry. No big deal. No one pressured me out. Its either you go out and carry your coffees or wait for a free table(s). And to think these women are in their 40s?!
Both groups are rude. Ok lang tumambay if you order again if not then you're getting seats meant for new customers. 2 hours i think is the maximum time unless walang tao then that's ok. Rude din naman kasi kung peak hours then tambay lang!
Pwedeng tumambay sa Starbucks or kahit San coffee shop Basta umorder ka ng umorder at wag ka lang tumunganga dun at makipag-chismisan! Ok lang sana Kung walang ibang customers na Naghihintay! Basta pag tapos ka ng kumain or magkape layas na para nman makapag-kape rin yung ibang customers in line! Yung ibang students kc tumatambay lng sa SB para mang-hunting ng mga cute guys or para lang masabi na sosyal cla! Yuck!
the question here is not how long you stay in a coffee shop, wa ako care if you stay there the whole day or night, and yeah, others are correct in saying na tambayan talaga ang coffee shops, in ayala nga kahit yung mga nagnenetworking naka-tambay, pero hindi naman sila pinapaalis, those middle-aged women have no right to ask anyone to leave after an hour or so, kung yung mga barista nga hindi nagpapaalis ng mga tao eh sila pa, I would do the same thing, lalo kong tatagalan ang pagtambay para lang sila mainis...dedma na sila girl!
THANK YOU FOR THIS FB SCOOP!! I completely agree! Starbucks Robinsons Malolos is the worst! Hindi yung mga baristas ha. They're nice. (Although obvious na baguhan yung iba... pero pwede na rin) But yung mga pumupunta dun!! Nung una nagbukas yun, nagulat ako. May party ba sa loob? yun lang yung napasukan ko na coffee shop na maingay! Punta kayo minsan jan.. pagbukas nyo ng pinto, maririnig nyo na ang ingay. nasanay talaga ako na yung mga students nasa coffee shop, mga nag-aaral, or normal conversations. pero iba jan. party-ingay. sana nag-inuman na lang sila sa bar.
Hindi charitable institution ang SB,...para kumita ng 100p sau sa tagal ng pagkakaupo mo...dun kayo s library tumambay....kayong mga estudyante lang nmn ang makapal ang mukhang nagpasimuno ng ganyan...me mali ka rin , Charina...lesson sa yo yan para malaman mong negosyo ang SB...mski mga staffs , mababanas sa inyo...inubos nyo na ata un refill jar ng creamer sa tagal nyo jn...buti nga sau....
#culturaldifferences I find your hashtag rather misplaced. I don't think it's in our culture not to show common courtesy. It doesn't matter if you feel entitled to your seats because you know of this unspoken Starbucks rule that people can stay as long as they like so long as there's a cup of coffee on their table. That does not excuse you from basic courtesies-- SB is not your living room. Other customers need to sit down. Give up your seat. You have outstayed your welcome.
This will be a lesson for u , guys na tambayan ang SB...esp mga estudyante 'daw'....naturingan edukado kau...pero hnd nyo naisip na need kumita ng.SB....one hr is fair enough ...then leave or order again...imagine, eto ang tigas ng mukha....1) naki free wi-fi na....2) inubos un refill creamer/milk...3) almost 4 hrs nakatambay. 4) naki CR ng 3x or more gumamit ng tissue, handwash soap, litro ng tubig sa flush...5) naki charge pa.... 6) 10Op na coffee lang inorder...7) binulsa pa un 4 sachets ng sugar n cream ...pati un mga tissue , binulsa din....8) galit pa pag me nakitang bagong costumer na naghahanap ng mauupuan...9) sinakop p un isang table para sa laptop, libro, bag , saying ako lang gagamit ng table na to....and worst 10) makikipag away pa sa staff or other clients....now, charina...yan ba ang regular sb girl na sinasabi mo?
pagpasensyahan nyo na, malamangfirst time sa sb. malamang, galing sa christmas party tapos nanalo ng sb gc sa raffle. kaya ayun, sugod mga kabaranggay ang drama.
It was really rude, pero nararanasan rin nmin madalas yung wla ng laman ang cup nila eh d pa umaalis at talagang ninanamnam ang free wifi ng starbucks, nakakainis na magintay ka ng seat sa walang balak pang umalis. Wlang consideration sa ibang costumers ng starbucks. Kiber nila kung nagiintay ka, dapat sa mga ganyan na ilang oras na nakakababad sa starbucks kahit wla ng balak bumili pa ng kape or frappe man lang eh maglatag na dun feeling nila pagaari nila SB eh!
Pagpasencyahan mo na ang mga lola at nagpapasosyal din cla...feelingerang in cla anong magagawa nyo!...haha!...ninanamnam nila lasa ng Starbucks kung kakaiba ang lasa sa iniinom nila sa bahay nga nmn!...sabay picture lagay sa fb....pra nga nmn feeling sikat sina lola!.....
Dito sa states tambayan talaga ng mga gusto libre wifi ang SB, ako I stay for almost 3 hrs. Ung iba nga several hours pa sila sila rin ung mga tumatambay ! Tama hindi nga restaurants ang SB na eat and go!
a cup of overpriced coffee is not an entitlement. you must finished it within an two hours,and must order another cup every hour after that. that's the unwritten common etiquette sa coffee shops, high end man o hindi. dapat alam din yan ng nagrereklamo. gusto mo ng tambayan na with aircon? maglakad lakad sa mall. gusto mo mag-aral? ano ginagawa ng school library? the truth is, maraming kumo-coffee shop para lang masabing sosyal sila. eh sa first world countries, ang tumatambay sa coffee shop eh talagang tambay at walang trabaho at umaasa sa unemployment benefits given by their government.
Pareho silang mali. Rude yung ladies, no question. Pero I understand yung frustration na I myself also want a cup of coffee, time to enjoy it with the so-called ambience that some commenters mention here tapos puno ang Starbucks ng mostly customers who are way past done with their drinks or food tas naka tambay lang. Yes, I'll leave and find another place. Pero may courtesy din sana yung ibang tao to see that other people would like to sit too. Sa mga nagcocompare sa US/Europe with coffee shop culture na pwde magtagal however you want, it's not true. The difference is when they see people looking for seats at a full coffee shop, more than likely someone already done will get up and offer space. THAT'S courtesy. Maraming sensitive and ma-pride na Filipinos unfortunately.
kabastusan naman kasi yung papaalisin ka sa pwesto mo, kahit ano pang order mo or tumambay ka lang dun. binayaran mo din naman yun pati yung ambiance. oh well may edad na kasi kaya ganun. it happens talaga. hirap ng ganyang sitwasyon.
Mga feelingera kasi mga nag hahangout jan sa SB, susulitin ung binayad sa kape at tatambay makikiwifi at magseselfie para masabeng sosyalen kaya kahit 5 oras na nakaupo ayaw mo lumayas kahit na madaming nag aantay!
Here's my 2 cents worth.. Very rude ang dating ni tita. Bully at ill-mannered, not worth stopping to their level. I agree with some of the comments here, respect and consideration for others and kailangan. As far as students go, i know nasanay na kayong tambayan and SB, pero common sense lang, it is first and foremost a food & drinks venue. You also need to observe basic courtesy and give respect and consideration for others who may want to utilize the place for what it is intended for. Sure, stay for a bit, why not. Kung napansin niyo dumadami na ang tao at ang intention niyo pala ay matagalang study o tambay, sa mall, library o sa bahay na lng kayo. You also need to be considerate of the proprietors (who, by the way, are also at fault here) that need to make a profit. At the end of the day, you are all to blame. Kulang lahat sa self-discipline at mga pasaway. I am very familiar with the coffee culture and have been to many places around the world where old AND young people enjoy, take time out but are also considerate of others at marunong makiramdam.
Asus nasayo na sana ang simpatya ko charuna kaso nung mabasa ko fb comments ng mga social climber mong friends duda ako! Mukhang kayo itong mga walang manners at feeling niyo sososyal niyo dahil nakapag SB kayo lol
Probably di nga sila sanay sa coffee shop culture. Kami ng mga barkada ko hindi kami magoorder unless we already have a place/table na pwedeng mapuwestuhan kasi nga aware kami na unpredictable ang mga customers at di ka pwedeng maghintay sa wala. pag puno sa starbucks lipat sa coffee bean or seattle's.
Maturity does not come with age indeed. To the ones who keep saying that the younger group was at fault, too, huy basahin nang maigi ang post. Binully sila. Nang-invade na nga sila manang ng space, palengkera pa masyado. This is why hindi lahat ng mas nakakatanda sa iyo ay dapat mong respetuhin, only give your respect to the ones who deserve it. How barbaric!
pareho nman clang mali. ung group ng matatanda hnd tama na ppringgan mo ung nkaupa at siksik mo n halos ung sarili mo. ung ngsulat nman d2 obyus nman na mapanghamak sa mahihirap grabe nman mkpangmata ng tao. hnd nman porke mdlas sa sb akala mo nman kung cnu kna. mayabang dn xa n filing nya cla lng n mga mataas s lipunan ang pde mg sb. hnd porke ng order k you will stay there for a day. hello akala mo lng ok lng s sb staff pero s 22o lng inookray nman tlg nila kau. mayaman lng kc usually kya wala cla nggwa. sa tingin ko khit magkaibang mundo ung 2 group of customer n e2 isa lng ang tingin ko pareho lng clang nging walang pinag aralan. even the one who wrote the incident. hahahaha... chepepay dn kau. just like sa group ng mga matnda n sinasabi nyang bastos s story nya.
Ateng mas rude ka.... Have u ever heard of courtesy??? Konting hiya naman sa ibang nagbabayad teh yes tambayan yan but have the decency to others! More than 1 hr teh??? U dont have any consideration sa ibang customers! To think na nagaaral ka pa naman basic thing on respect teh pag me nakakatanda na nakatayo paupuin mo teh! Kakahiya ka naman... Nagmataas ka pa talaga... Shame....
Ateng binasa mo ba yung article? Snabi na nga nya na kalahiti palang yung naiinom nyang frap at 1/4 cinnamon roll, parinig na ng parinig. Pag binabastos ka. Are you going to nice? I bet not and fyi, if you have eaten at starbucks you know the cinnamon roll is quite big and full of icing. About the basic courtesy and respect you are talking about, if someone disrespects me first. specially when they need something from me. They can kiss my a**. Shame on the older women who tries to bully customers who aren't done eating. To the one who wrote the letter good for you! I would have deliberately stayed longer. tit for tat
Obviously, those middle aged women are naive, rude and forgot their manners. Starbucks is not fastfood. Here in US, students or anyone stays for hours or even the whole day to study, to chat or just chill, and that's acceptable.
Just by looking on it, i can say...they are public school teachers..lol! The porma, the bags at pati mga mukha nila. Hahaha! Dont get me wrong, i love teachers. :)
Yeah, what those middle-aged women did was wrong and rude pero the whole scene was just SO CHEAP. Mali din yung collage students. Nag-sasagutan pa sila, sana tumahimik nalang yung college student, or kausapin ng maayos ng isang beses pero hindi na nagparinigan pa.
Mga Girls - Sana ganito ang sinabi nyo -"hoy mga matronix, hindi nyo ba alam, professional istambay kami?". Ha ha. Hindi alam ng mga majojonda, wala naman talaga kayong mga bahay. For the price of one cup of coffee per day, nagkaroon kayo ng living room, bathroom at free WIFI.
Ang mga kabataan ngayon ang babaw! Konting kibot, picture, post sa fb, rant! Paganahin ang pasensya at pag unawa! Kung nang harass ang ibang customer you could havecalled the guard and the manager to take care of the situation.
These ladies shouldn't feel so entitled just so they bought so much. I mean, yes, you may ask courteously if some seats can be taken, but the gesture of making palibot while someones eating/drinking is a bit off knowing that they are much older.
Like, girls, they stopped making tambay na sa barangay just to get some coffee.
matuto ka ren kseng makiramdam ate... ako nga pag tumatambay ako dyan pag gusto ko pa magstay bumibili ko ulet pra di nakakahiya sa mga naghihintay kse i still have a reason to stay dhel may iniinom or kinakain pa ko.. tama nman na un sinabe na un lang inorder niyo eh gusto niyo opening til closing ata dun... oa na yan... matanda na yan tehh. patol pa?? nagrereklamo ka to get sympathy eh nakakahiya nga un asal niyo... matanda na di niyo pa pinaupo.. so insensitive na kelangan pa kayo paringgan ng mga matatanda... automatic na yan dapat khet nasan ka pa.. remember tatanda ka ren...
In my opinion, pareho lang sila na may mali. Why? Although alam naman natin ang basic SB coffee shop etiquette e dapat, dahil din siguro sa culture natin e mag-give way tayo lalo na sa mas matanda hindi porket ganon ang practice sa ibang bansa e ganun din tayo, sila naman (ibang tao sa ibang bansa) kasi wala sila respect sa mas nakakatanda sa kanila PERO.. hindi rin porket matanda ka e dapat pagbibigyan kadin, depende yan sa tao... sa kwento na ito, e dapat hindi ganon ang asal nila... wala namang kamodo modo ang peg. Hindi ka dapat ganon, pambihira. Dapat nga of all people, sila ung nagseset ng good example. Sad lang.
Excuse you. Dami kong nakikitang ibang lahi na mas magalang pa kesa sa mga pinoy. They give their seats up for the pregnant, elderly and disabled. Sa pinas, itutulak pa yan o hoholdapin. There's no need to drag other cultures down to bring yours up. Find a better way to emphasize your point. #utaktalangka
It depends what the situation is you can hang out for as long as you want in a coffee shop but regardless whether its a cafe or resto and the place is packed and as you said theres a long cue of people for coffee i guess its common courtesy to give way to others. Thats where manners and breeding come into play. They may be rude but its not bad to show a little kindness once in a while.
Pareho silang mali. Yung middle-aged woman who had to make parinig and intrude on someone else's personal space just to get her point across, and itong poster na may sense of entitlement.
What did you order in starbucks and how long were you there? Base sa post, mukhang maiksi na yung 1.5 hours silang nasa coffee shop.
Yung mga ibang commenters dito making fun of the middle-aged people's social standing, shame on you. Kailan pa naging sosyal ang pagtatambay sa starbucks?!
Actually, in Singapore coffee shops are often used as study area by most students, but they are only allowed to stay for 2 hours, if they still want to stay they need to make additional order. Respeto nalang din since di mo naman bahay and someone may need the seat. Cguro ok na ang two hours sa kwnetuhan. Di ko lang alam sa Pinas if this applies.
She took your photo without asking for your permission? That's invasion of privacy. Had these harridans been in another country with strict privacy laws, they can be jailed.
Oa ng argument...im sure hindi ginusto ng starbucks tambayan sila..pinauso lang yan ng mga th...tingin mo sa mahal ng space jan eh maglaan sila para sa kwentuhan? Wala lang sila choice malamang
Annoying nga pero minsan annoying din ang students gngwang library ang coffee shops alam nmn may pambili pero wlang maupuan ung gusyong magunwind manlang...
Mano ba namang magpa assist na lang sa staff. O ano ba naman yung makiusap ng maayos. Kung ako man pakiusapan ng maayos, pero kasi, mayabang din makaasta tong isa. Feeling entitled nga. Guess they havent heard of common courtesy. Pareho silang bastos.
ngayon lang nagka SB sa malolos, what do u expect? siempre excited mga pipol kaya queueing everytime... yes, its not a fastfood chain but if you are seeing many people already in the area and you're almost done with your food, you could have changed venue so you can continue your chikahan so other people also can experience the SB ambiance so to speak since sabi ko nga, its relatively new for malolos residents. common courtesy lang naman yan... both sides may point it was just the way its said siguro kaya its being blown out of proportion. coffee shops are not libraries para dun kayo mag aral and own a space the whole, especially when there are several paying customers around. pwede niyo siguro gawin yan kung wala masyadong tao but sabi ko nga, bago lang yan sa malolos kaya laging madaming tao...as for the group of mid age women, pwede naman magsabi ng maayos at hindi pa sarcastic, im sure gawain din naman nila yan before...nagkataon lang me nauna sa kanila.
15 persons, limited seats, pero gusto magstay - wait patiently nalang and/or ask nicely if almost done na sila or if wala na silang hinihintay para pwedeng kunin yung spare seats.
Better yet, leave kayo ng suggestion sa Starbucks. Bigger space = more seats.
First of all, kung 15 kayo at nakita niyo na walang enough tables and chairs para sainyo, wag niyo na muna isipin na makakaupo kayong lahat. Pwede naman kasi na bumili muna kayong lahat ng drinks niyo at malay niyo while waiting for your drinks, magkaron ng vacant seats. Or kung sa paghihintay niyo e sa tingin niyo walang aalis anytime soon, buy your drinks then go. Pwede naman kayo magkwentuhan while enjoying your Starbucks drinks ng di nagsstay.
Whatever the culture is, RESPECT IS RESPECT. If there is someone occupying the seat, no one has the right to ask them to leave! They are not doing anything harmful and they were there first. If you can't find seats then leave!
only in the phils na ginagawang tambayan ang starbucks! hindi po tambayan ate starbucks,,oo hindi sya fastfood, coffeesshop nga eh, but not necessary mean kpg bumili ka ng coffee mo eh dun ka mag stay for as long as you want! C'mon, sa pinas lang nangyayari yan hahaha! those mid-aged woman eh hindi mo masisi kung maiinis kung makikita nmn nya ang lahat eh tpos na magcoffee at all occupied ang seats. yun eh ang purpose nila eh magkape at hindi tumambay... not what ate said, dun sya nag aaral, reunion with a friend. well... that's only in the philippines!!!!
Both parties were wrong in so many ways...it is rude for the middle aged merlat to babble and allude but it is also wrong for that charina girl and her friends to stay there for as long as they want,yes there is a "right of privacy" when youre occupying a space in SB pero HELLO give consideration also to those other customer who wanna use the space you are occupying dahil hindi mo naman personal space yan like DUH!...yun na! Paaak!
Both parties were wrong in so many ways...it is rude for the middle aged merlat to babble and allude but it is also wrong for that charina girl and her friends to stay there for as long as they want,yes there is a "right of privacy" when youre occupying a space in SB pero HELLO give consideration also to those other customer who wanna use the space you are occupying dahil hindi mo naman personal space yan like DUH!...yun na! Paaak!
Ung middle aged ladies should have looked for another place nlng sana instead of acting like kids. Ung nag-post naman should have a little consideration na mejo wag gawing sala ng bahay ung SB to stay there for more than an hour or so.
Ung middle aged ladies should have looked for another place nlng sana instead of acting like kids. Ung nag-post naman should have a little consideration na mejo wag gawing sala ng bahay ung SB to stay there for more than an hour or so.
hindi sna lalaki ang issue kong nag observe n lng ng basic filipino values n mag offer ng upuan s mga nakakatanda. at ska mapagpasensya s mga may edad. ganyan talaga mga yan kasi nagkakaedad. isipin n lng natin mga nanay natin. papano kong sa kanila nangyari yan. kong anak ganyan ang magiging anak ko. kawawa siguro s akin.
True, you can stay at SB as long as you want provided there are few customers around. Pero naman pagnakita mo na mahabang pila and you've been there for more than 40 minutes, I think as a respect for others dapat lang na dahandahan ka ng umalis. The coffee and cinnamon at SB though expensive does not give you the right to stay all day specially when people started to cue up.
never thought i'd say this but hey, those middle-aged women are quite annoying!
ReplyDeleteKaya I'd rather stay at home and have my coffee eh. Ang daming social climbers kasi sa starbucks
Delete#culturaldifference ? hmmmm, more like #generationalgap hehehe
DeleteOMG! Teachers!
Deletedapat nagjollibee na lang sina manang, madami naman sila, pede pareserve ang function room.
ReplyDeletehaha. Korek! Mukhang 1st time sa SB. Tignan m looks nila. Haha
Deletefeeling entitled ka lang? why not eat at a restaurant? yung me cover charge para hindi ka napapaalis?
ReplyDeleteI feel the same way. Not because people normally stay long in Starbucks means it's right. You stay a decent amount of time so other customers can also sit down. Or buy another cup of coffee and earn your right to the seat.
Deletehindi naman nakakarelax sa restaurant. sa starbucks pwede ka pa magtaas ng paa. tambayan nga eh. sanay ka siguro sa fast food.
DeleteDi ko gets bakit ginagawang study place ang starbucks.
ReplyDelete@2:22AM: Well, it only shows na hindi ka nag Starbucks masyado. It is a study place particularly for medicine and law students. There's nothing wrong with it.
DeleteGuilty. There's an ambiance in SB that makes it conducive for studying. Nakakailang cases ako dyan.
Delete@2:50 AM: tinatanong nga kung bakit? wala bang library mga school nila?
DeleteHoney in this digital age coffee houses are not only for tete -a-tete. They can also be a coffice and by the way even the homeless can stay there as long as they buy any of their products. Go to your nearest SB , coffeebean , peet's, , alchemy, king's coffee, bean scene et al..
DeleteSi JK Rowling sa isang coffee shop nag-prepare at nagsulat ng unang book ni Harryy Potter.
Delete@2:50AM baka di ka aware sa Pilipinas ginagawang library ang SB at sa ibang bansa hindi.
Delete@2:50AM baka di ka aware sa Pilipinas ginagawang library ang SB at sa ibang bansa hindi.
Delete@2:22- mukhang ndi ka din madalas sa Starbucks. wag mo lang iprio ang medicine at law students.
Deletebasta lahat ng students na gusto ng quiet place for study tambay mode dun. sama nyo pa ung mga nagpapalipas ng traffic. gusto magrelax after work. mga nagnenetworking. mga pasosyal.mga coffee adik. basta madami.
kahit sa ibang bansa, madaming estudyante sa starbucks. minsan 3-4 estudyante lang sila sa isang malaki at mahabang table tapos nakakalat dun yung mga papers nila.
Delete@2:50 starbucks just like u said is a place to unwind it is definitely NOT a place to study the only reason why it became that way is because of its Free wifi..as u said theres othing wrong with it but its aPUBLIC place its for EVERYBODY.this is more of personal responsibility and respect for other people not because it became a study place doesnt mean student have the right to do or stay as long as they want! Like i say its a public place
Deletefor real? anon 2:50..medicine and law students talaga...as far as I know medicine and law students want to study in place quieter than starbucks....you can see real students studying inside a freaking library not starbucks...get real ! masabi lang kasing nasa starbucks may halong selfie pa sikat na...suskopo..order your coffee, have a quick conversation or what not...read a a few pages of your fave novel then leave...don't hog the damn place like you own it for a small frapp....you know you know this all too well..
DeleteStudy place bcoz of its free wi-fi. Lol!
DeleteWell, actually its not. Merong tinatawag na LIBRARY or study halls. Back in the good ol' days, di uso ang coffee shops. We do study groups sa mga school rooms or arrange for meet ups sa mga bahay-bahay ng kaklase. Libre coffee and meryenda pa un. Here in Singapore, nagpopost ng reminder ang starbucks na appreciate nila kung pedeng di gawing study hall ung establishment nila specially during peak hours or kung maraming customers(kung pde lang sana magpost ng pic dito, i could snap a photo of such advise). But we digress in reference dun sa above post, they are there for a catch up with a friend, which is on the fence ako kse pag nagchikahan talaga mejo nakakalimot talaga ng time. However, common courtesy din na pag tapos na kumain, sana e igive-up na ung seat for the other customers. There are other places din to do the kwentuhan na di ka maiistorbo and d ka makakaistorbo. Side note: magaling sya magsulat ha, blogger maybe? For a student, me future sya sa writing :)
DeleteOh and btw, i'm not a middle aged person as referred to by the post LOL
True anon 2.50. In fact some Starbucks bramches has study-tablesque tables
Deletekung gusto mo magaral sa library ka pumunta hindi sa starbucks..
DeleteKung gusto nila magaral sa Starbucks, then go. Hindi naman siya bawal.
DeleteCharina mentioned na hindi pa nga niya naubos yung food and drink niya pero nagpaparamdam at nagpaparinig na yung isa. Dun siya nainis kasi nga naman di pa sila tapos kung anu-ano na ginagawa nung isang babae from the other group. Wala naman masama kung magkwentuhan sila sa Starbucks. Yun ang napagusapan nilang meeting place e.
DeleteGinagawang study space ang starbucks cos they're open til midnight and some are even 24hrs while libraries are open til 9pm lang. And sa Starbucks may coffee and food while most libraries prohibit bringing food and drinks inside. Common courtesy lang naman na kung wala nang upuan, maghintay patiently na may mabakante or move to another coffee shop. Even the baristas of coffee shops are taught na wag magpaalis ng customer cos bastos yun.
DeleteStarbucks is not a study place nor it is a library.. I agree on that.. But i am honestly one of the guilty students who studies at starbucks.. Not because of selfies or feeling pacool.. But it is a comfortable place FOR ME to study there.. Kanya kanya tayo ng diskarte sa pagaral.. If you're comfortable at home or at a quiet place then i/we respect that.. But Please respect our way of studying too.. And to be honest.. I've been studying at Starbucks for more than 7 years.. From my bachelor's degree to my master's and now to my law school.. And excuse my rudeness but we are the regular customers.. We are the ones who contributes to starbucks.. Because we go there everyday and we order not only once per day.. We also eat there and enjoys their food.. So yeah.. Even if may bagyo.. Nandun po kame.. Bumibili.. Nagdadala ng mas maraming customers as we invite our friends.. At hindi po kame nandun para mag #SELFIE #starbucks #frappe.. Nandun po kame para continuous na may tao at may benta.. At hindi po kame pumupunta para makicharge lang dahil #blackout #bagyo.. If you have a problem with starbucks being a study place.. Report it to the officials.. Tell them to tell us not to study there.. Thats gonna be half a million loss from my group only per year.. Yes that's small.compared to what they earn but still half a million is still half a million..
DeleteThere's still no place like home talaga.
DeleteMalditang matrona.. first timer siguro sa SB. Haha akala kape ni mang Juan yung shop.
ReplyDeleteRESPECT AT CONSIDERATION FOR OTHERS ...... Di ba tinuro yan ng magulang mo. Pag nakita mo madami na tao at halos wala na maupuan then it's time for you to leave. Siguro naman tama na ang 30 minutes para matapos ang frap mo at cinnamon. Ilang oras mo ba balak makipagchikahan at ubusin yung binili mo.Hindi dahil sa hindi fastfood yun at nakabili ka lang ng frap at cinnamon dapat ka na magbabad sa pakikipagchikahan sa mga friends mo sa Starbucks. Wala ba kayong mga bahay????
ReplyDelete2:26 uy andun ka Sa picture teh!
DeletePag nakita mo madami na tao at halos wala na maupuan then it's time for you to... find another coffee shop. Kesa naman manghharass ka pa ng ibang nakaupo na. Respect nga diba
DeleteHuy, ang coffee shop eh talagang tambayan. Aba eh, di dun ka mag order ng kape sa McDo. Anon 2:26, lumabas labas ka naman kaya para ma getz mo ang kultura ng coffee shops. Sa Europe nga ang mga street cafes halos dun na nakatira at mas maraming matatanda na nakatambay. Kung occupied ang mga tables just say, "Is that seat taken?" sa nagkakape na nag iisa lang sa table. Baka single yun, kung guapo at mabait, di jackpot ka. Tatak na yan ng coffee shops na may mga nakatambay ng matagal..... and the owners/operators welcome it. They worry more kung walang tumatambay sa coffee shops nila.
DeletePuede namang makishare ng table. Just do it nicely. Di yung parang sangganong ready mang-away. Kung ganyan attitude mo, di ka bagay.
DeleteHi manang! Asan na ung ipopost niyong pic?
DeleteSang-ayon ako sa yo. May mga kabataan kasi ngayon na akala nila status symbol pag nakakapasok sa starbucks. Akala nila porke't nakabili na sila ng 1 frappe eh pwede na sila mag-stay sa SB the whole day. Coffee shops around the world are made for coffee drinkers and those who want to destress hindi para mag-catch up. Catching up will take hours. And alam mo na busy ang SB Malolos bakit plano mo pang mag-stay ng mas matagal? There are parks or restos where you can stay for hours if you prefer to catch up with your friends. Wag masyadong pasosyal, hija. Estudyante ka pa lang at galing pa sa magulang mo ang pinambili mo ng frappe at cinnamon bun. And FYI, kapag busy ang coffee shops, dapat 30 mins ka lang mag-stay to give consideration to others. Picture na agad ng mai-post sa IG at facebook.
DeleteMy dear ateng in this digital nomad culture it is acceptable for these kids to stay in the coffee shop as long as they buy the products and they don't stay beyond closing hours. A full coffeeshop is better than an empty one. Obviously those matured ladies are so ignorant of this culture that's why they were being obnoxious. I work in the financial district in SF honey were coffee shops abound. These places are packed with students , professionals and entrepreneurs alike. Those ladies need to go somewhere else that can accommodate their group or in an intimate place where they can have their conference . The only time the act becomes egregious is when their butts have occupied the chair for more than 2 hours and they have not bought something. Those ladies need to learn the word coffice ... Haha ha!
DeleteIgnorante sa SB to c anon 2:26. Kaloka. Punta ka din sb mga once a week para malaman mo anong norm dun.
DeleteWow respect and consideration! What about those matured ladies??? They also need to educate themselves about coffeeshop etiquette. From what I understood from this student's rant they were totally obnoxious. My friend even the homeless can sit on that chair the whole day as long as he buys the shops products. Merry Xmas and May the new year give you more insight and knowledge ...
Deleteiba ang rules ng cafe kaysa sa regular na restaurant.
Delete@2:26- sa kanto nyo lang ikaw nagkakape noh?
Deletehoy bombels ka 2:26, diba sabi halos di pa nga nauubos ang inorder nila?!
Deletenapaghahalata yung mga hindi tumatambay sa coffee shops. lol. teh 2:26 naka smile ka pa yata sa photo oh
Delete@3:06 its true BUT people in europe know the word RESPECT meaning they can stay as long as theyvwant if theres not much customers otherwise they leave after they are done!!sa pinas walang pakialam kahit kalahating araw na nasa SB at isang Frapp at cinnamon lang ang inorder nila.Its business nit a charity or publicly funded coffee shop
DeleteAnon 226 AM: majonda ka na kasi at di mo alam ang dynamics sa Starbucks. Doon ang tambayan ng nag-aaral at nagpapasosyal. Modeled on cafes abroad yan--yung nasa Europe, na tambayan talaga. Kung di mo matanggap e di ikaw ang manatili sa bahay haha!
DeleteTama e d sana nag mcdo nlng cla.masarap nmn coffee ng mcdo e. sinabi nmn ni ate na aalis nmn xa kapag nakaamdam n wla n available seat
DeleteFor sure, isa cya sa nasa picture...Alin ka doon 2:26AM?
DeleteManang, mas bastos po ung nakaupo ung tao tas papaalisin mo. Kami, pag nakita namin puno na ung coffee shop, sasabihin ko sa friends ko "puno dito e, tara hanap tayo iba" hindi ung haharassin ko ung naka-upo na. kahit si mama na senior citizen hindi gagawin un. We would just look for another shop. Probably doon sa mas mahal pa para sure na may upuan. Walang problema samin. Ugaling squatter lang yung ginawa nung mga manang sa story... mga squatter d marunung mag respect ng space and privacy ng tao. I know, may mga squatter na ko na encounter na ganyan. Coffee shop yun mam, hindi jolibee. Where old friends catch up, business folks chat up with their colleagues or even meetup with clients, students studying...kahit sa USA po, ganyan din. Pero since first time mo mag Starbucks, I guess you wouldn't know :P So sige, try mo istorbohin ang isang group of businessmen sa tactics nyong yan. Good luck sa inyo #FirstTimeMagStarbucks
Nadoon siya sa picture! Matrona si that you?
Delete3:06 truuuuu! Pati sa pubs lol
DeleteDo you really wanna know why mahal ang kape sa starbucks?! You don't actually pay for your coffee, you're paying for your stay in the place! So you have the right to stay there as long as you want, because you paid for it.
DeleteVery well said anon 3:06am! feeling ko sa ateng hindi sanay mag SB or ibang sa coffee shop. fast food lang ang peg teh?! hahaha!!!!!!
DeleteTrue enough! Tamabayan talaga ang Starbucks. Di dapat ipagpilitan nila manang ang gusto nila. Kung walang space, eh di hanap ng ibang coffee shop na may malaking space!
DeleteSiya yung nagpatong ng bag nya sa armrest nung nagpost.
DeleteKung madalas sila magStarbucks, dapat alam nila na madaming customers ang nagsstay talaga for a long period of time regardless kung they're done na with their food and drinks. You're lucky if may mga tao na willing to leave kahit di pa sila tapos para lang makaupo ka.
Delete6 kami sa barkada and if gusto lang namin ng coffee, laging to-go kami. But if may agenda talaga kami (school stuff), nagsstay talaga kami kahit alam namin na limited nalang ang seats for other customers but once we're done, alis narin agad.
Anon 11:48 dami mong problema sa buhay. Simpleng bagay hindi mo magets. Fishball nga tinatambayan kahit nakatayo at mainit. SB pa kaya na malamig ang AC, Malambot ang sofa, may wifi, maraming magaganda at gwapo sa mata. Simpleng psychology lang kaya couch ang halus upuan sa mga coffee shop (hindi lahat) because they want their customer to stay comfortably as long as they want. Iba nga may sarili ka pang mug o "tasa" para personalized at feel at home ka. Kaloka itong mga ito.
Deleteako hindi ako palaging tumatambay sa mga coffee shops pero alam ko ang kalakaran sa mga ganyan..its basic GMRC actually na dapat wag maging bastos at wag mangharass. the middle-aged woman should know that at her age..I'm sure may mga anak at apo na sila so I'm wondering what kind of manners she teaches her children and grandchildren
Delete2:26 Madame, sa starbucks pwede pong magtagal at magchikahan for hours kahit ubos na yung kape nyo. that's what it's established for. first time nyo po? you should have asked for assistance sa staff, or better yet, naghanap nalang kayo ng ibang coffee shop na kasya kayong 15. respect begets respect.
DeleteHmmmm, obviously the oldies are not familiar with the coffee shop culture. Most likely when they relate their experience to their kids and kin, who, I suppose are more familiar with the "norm" in coffee shops they will all say, "Ooooh, ganun pala." Yung iba nga dito sa Canada, halos mag hapon na sa mga coffee shops dahil sa wifi. Ok lang, kasi, parang promo din yun sa coffee shop dahil ganun nga ang crowd nila.
ReplyDeleteYou do not know what you are talking about. I frequently travel to canada and the US. While it is true that people study and just hang out in coffee shops, people in Canada and in the USA do not do this during peak hours. That's called basic courtesy, which is apparently a very alien notion to a lot of Filipinos.
DeleteAnon 2:45 AM depende yan kung saan ka na lugar kasi dito sa amin kahit starbucks or other coffee shops palaging puno. there was a time na dalawang oras akong tumambay ng starbucks kasi may hinihintay ako, meron ding mas nauna pa sa akin at nandun pa rin kahit nung umalis ako. hindi naman kasi parehas ng mga restaurant ang turnover ng mga coffee shop kaya kung walang makitang upuan either maghintay or maghanap na lang ng ibang coffee shop.
DeleteAs someone born and raised in the United States, and goes to cafes frequently, I can say with complete confidence that it is YOU who does not know what you are talking about. If you want to talk about lack of manners, along with a bullying "holier-than- thou "
Deleteattitude, these women are perfect example
Totally agree with you.
DeleteIt's ok to stay in a coffeeshop for more than an hour if there are no other people waiting to be seated. Yes, it is a study place, but this is still a coffe shop. Let's be considerate since there are other paying customers.
However, the manner they were treated by the mid aged women is something to be despised about too.
I agree with you 2:45! Dito lang naging practice yan. May tamang oras na gawing tambayan ang isang lugar regardless kung coffee shop or not. Rude ung ginawa nung thunders pero di rn tama na isipin nung mga bata na tambay time yon kc the place was jam packed.
DeleteI agree with you 2:45! Dito lang naging practice yan. May tamang oras na gawing tambayan ang isang lugar regardless kung coffee shop or not. Rude ung ginawa nung thunders pero di rn tama na isipin nung mga bata na tambay time yon kc the place was jam packed.
DeleteI live in Canada....and Anon 2:29AM is right. Doesn't matter which ethnicity, or whether its peak hours, people hang out for a long time in coffee shops. Lol
DeleteI agree. Nagpunta kami sa US several times for business. Puro kami pinoy at nung unang beses kami pumunta sa Starbucks, puro vacant ang seats. Mahaba yung pila pero lahat ng tao nagmamadali and gusto nila"to go" yung order na coffee and doughnut. Kami lang yung nag-stay para inumin yung coffee dun. Hindi lang naman sa isang state ko naranasan yun kaya malamang hindi tambayan ang Starbucks sa US. Bumibili lang sila ng coffee tapos aalis na.
Delete@2:45 totally agree with u... basic courtesy, social responsibility and respect for others is unheard of the young ones back home..
DeleteBravo ka 'teh, anon 2:45!
DeleteTrue na true. Sabi nga nila- ONLY IN THE PHILIPPINES!
NOT! 2:45 OA ka. Kahit sa States and Europe ganyan paren basta bumibili ka paren ng goods nila habang tumatagal ang pagtambay mo sa coffee shop kahit nga sa pubs eh. That's what I do and I'm not the only one who does that.
DeleteDitto! While it is very common for us filipinos to sit and stay longer in coffee shops, we should also consider the other customers who need seats. These middle-aged women may have crossed the border in pressuring u guys to leave, but i think u should also know when to take the initiative to leave and give others the chance to at least finish their beverage while seated!
Deletemaghapon nga eh. peak hours ba ang hapon?? lol
DeleteAnon 2:45, dear, of course I know what I am talking about. I am from Canada and when we first moved here we wanted to open a coffee shop and so we researched the culture of coffee shop. Peak hours? Some job interviewers conduct their interviews at coffee shops, and yes, during peak hours. Trust me, I know what I am talking/writing about. Anon 2:29
DeleteOn-the-go naman kasi mga tao sa US kaya di sila masyado nagsstay lalo na talaga pag peak hours. Kaya nga 'peak' e. Mas maraming tao so ang tendency talaga is to buy your drink then go.
Deletetigilan nyo na ang pagdedefend sa mga coffee shop squatters. ang pinsan ko po ay manager sa isang branch ng starbucks sa makati at matagal na nilang problema yang mga tambay ng tambay lang. aabutin ng limang oras isang kape lang binibili, even when there are a lot of people looking for seats. just because they allow it, di naman ibig sabihin pwede nang abusuhin. tama yung nag post sa taas, karamihan kasi ng mga Pilipino walang BASIC COURTESY
Deletemy dear the "coffee shop culture" that you are pertaining to varies. Most hole in the wall coffee shops, or those branches of Starbucks near parks, villages or schools, it's true they welcome these people who just hang out. lalo na those branches na nag-attract na ng art crowd. But in high traffic areas like business districts or inside malls, mali naman yung ginagawang tambayan ang mga yan, lalong lalo na kung peak hours!
DeleteIn this case i agree mali yung mga matatanda. they could have asked nicely, at isa pa hindi pa nga nila nauubos yung binili nila minamadali na sila. Pero huwag naman natin igeneralize. marami talaga ang umaabuso sa patakaran ng Starbucks, feeling nila pwede na sila tumambay buong araw. just because hindi sila pinapaalis tingin nila okay lang. You know what you are talking about? sige magbukas ka ng coffee shop, tingnan ko lang kung matuwa ka kung ang mga customers mo isang drink lang ang bibilhin then mag stay for 5 hours or more, then makikita mo may potential customers ka na maghahanap na lang ng ibang coffee shop dahil wala nang maupuan.
Mali ang daing mo te... Yan ang tntwag n discretion at hiya... Hndi s lahat ng sb gnyan, lalo kng hndi bawat sulok ang branch...feeling sosyal n sosyal ka nman porket lagi nksb...
ReplyDeletedi pa nga ubos yung pagkain teh.
DeletePag nag-Starbucks, sosyal na agad? Hindi pwedeng gusto lang talaga nila ang kape dun?
DeleteHaHAHAH!! Tama, yung iba ginagawang badge or status symbol ang pagkakape sa SB, lalo na yung mga promdi, utang na loob!!
DeleteAy naku, mga jueteng operator yan or nagkukubrahan ng paluwagan or kun anu-anung pyramiding scams. It's useless to teach then some manners, because first of all, it's not in their blood! Trust me, di yan tatalaban nitong post mu. Just move along, rules in the jungle: treat others the same way they treat you, period. If it were me, I could have been b**chier!
ReplyDeleteHaha natawa ako sa theory mo kung sino sila.
Deleteagree! if they are not nice to you bakit ka magpapaubaya sa kanila. Di naman fair yun
DeleteHonestly, as per SB, what youre paying in their coffee shop is the experience. Ambience, brand, experience and not so much of the coffee. Also based on the interior design of a coffee shop, it is designed to be comfty, meaning medyo tambayan talaga. So for me rude yung mga middle-aged women...this is not fastfood chain where everything is designed so you can eat-and-go kasi even the choices of chairs in a fastfood eh medyo comfty lang....enough to sit and eat but not to stay and hang-out. Haayy pag puno dapat wag mamilit magpaalis ng tao. Find another coffee shop nalang
ReplyDeleteYes u pay for the "experience". HOWEVER you should also have the courtesy for other customers. Not that i am in favor of pressuring people to leave once finished, thats just so wrong of course. but it does not even have to reach this point before you realize that there are some people waiting too!
DeleteLol natawa ako sa dami nila... kung ganyan sila kadami dpt dun sila sa sa place na pwede mgpa reserve. As what i see from their faces mukhang first time nila mg SB... si lola sa gitna ayaw mgpatalo sa kaka gala... gusto nka sb pa.... lol
ReplyDeleteTrue! Yan din napansin k. First timer mga lola. Hehe
Deletehahahahahahah! yan din napansin ko! nakangiti pa si lola, mukhang sarap na sarap sa whipped cream ng frappe nya. lol
Deletecharina, alam mo ba ang coffee ginagawa lang yan sa mga maiikling kwentuhan, kinda like a date, kapag hindi mo gusto kausap mo, tapusin mo na yan coffee mo kagad, kapag napapasarap ang usapan, sa ibang venue na ginagawa, hindi po office yan, isa sa pinaka annoying na mga tao sa sb eh yung bibili ng maliit na baso ng kape tapos makiki wifi. try nyo kaya magkwentuhan sa restaurant (hindi fastfood ha) or sa bahay nyo, ng sa ganun, walang mang iistorbo sa inyo
ReplyDeleteErr hindi po libre wifi sa sb unlike cbtl.
DeleteHindi libre ang wifi sa Starbucks.
DeleteTama ka jan teh!
Deleteeh kung gusto nila mag cinnamon roll e. at mas maganda ambiance sa starbucks kesa sa bahay. baka matulog lang kayo pag nasa bahay kayo.
Deletebata kapa ateh, kung simpleng yan ang rant mo sa fb, pano na lang kung totoong mas grabe na mangyari sayo
ReplyDeletefeeling soshal? juice colored, yung mga friends nya sa fb nya makapag comment, mas masama pa sa sinabi ng mga matatanda, yan ba ang me class?
ReplyDeleteUpon looking at those old lady, we could not expect anything from them dahil mgs barriotic ang itsurahin nila. Who knows, 4 months silang nag-labada na magkaka berks just to enjoy a frappuccino hahaha!!! At ang mga bag, mukhang sume-Secosana hahaha!!! Mga social climbers na labandera...
ReplyDeletehey! hindi porke nag Sb eh social climber na! fyi! sampu sampera na lang ngayon ang kape sa Sb! at kahit saang sulok may store sila! kawawa ka naman... akala mo siguro sosyal ka kapag uminom ng kape sa Sb! hahahaha... pathetic!
DeleteIt does not matter kung secosana or Lv ang bag. Baka mas mayaman pa sa yo yan.
DeleteSa tingin mo teh, kung can afford yan SB lng ba ang iinumin nyan? Women in their 40s na can afford would prefer coffee shops sa hotel lobbies kc mas tahimik. Di magpapakacheap magSB. They wont treat coffee as a status symbol unlike the lower class. Just saying.
DeleteMakapanlait ka nman baks. With the way you talk parang lumelevel ka na din sa kanila.
DeleteUpon looking at your comment, we could not expect any courtesy from a rude person like you who doesn't have any manners! May problema ka ba sa mga labandera? Kung walang labandera, eh di lahat ng damit mo mabaho! Hello!!! Okay nang punahin mo yung ginawa nila na hindi maganda pero to brand them as "labandera" is just foul. Kung makapang-mata ka just because you think you have a better-paying job doesn't make you a better individual.
DeleteGrabe ka naman makapag judge ate.
Deleteso pag labandera wala ng karapatang mag SB?
DeleteEh si letter sender? Ilang buwan pinagtrabahuan ng magulang nya yang pang SB nya? Wag magyabang ng pera.
Deletedi nman pang sosyal ang starbucks... pang mga taong gustong magkape at may pambili... may notion kse ang ibang pinoy na pag nasa starbucks sila ay sosyal na sila ... normally un nagiisip nun social climber kagaya mo... duhhhh
DeleteReally? Ano point mo.kahit Sino pwede mag sb ke labandera pa yan!
Deleteuyyy wag naman ganyan. baka 1st timer lang talaga sa starbucks :)
Deleteikaw ang barriotic d mo nga mailabas face mo! kung buhusan kita ng isang timba ng frap para mahimasmasan ka dyn!
DeleteKung manlait ka 2:52 parang ang class mo noh? Mas may breeding pa ung maid namin syo promise!
Deletetingin ko pa lang halatang ill mannered ung mga middle aged woman! tinapos ko talaga ung kwento at nakakainis ung nangyari sa kanila!
ReplyDeleteMeron akong napanood one time sa show ni Kris Aquino about time etiquette sa isang coffee shop or how long can you stay there basta ba you are consuming their products/goods, correct me if i am wrong parang 2 hrs yata un, then you have to buy another. Pero regardless, i think it was rude of those older people to impose don sa mga younger ones kahit na ba onti lang or paubos na ung pagkain nila, coffee shops are designed for small/medium sized groups and not for a large group kasi nga the space is limited and hindi sia designed tipong pang restaurant or fast food where you can freely grab and re-arrange chairs so all of you can seat in one big group, pwera nalang if in advance you have contacted that shop that you wanted it like that. Ewan ko minsand kasi feeling ng mga tao, pag napatungtong sila sa isang coffee shop eh yayamanin na sila or they are very "susyal" na but one thing is for sure, manners should always be exercised, mano bang magtanong ung older woman if you guys are about to be finished na so they can wait properly at mano bang ikaw mismo younger girl, you must have said something into na likes ng "Excuse me po, do you need anything from us?" so that could have sparred you from super inis (because kung ako ang nandian i would have been inis too, but wait i did that pala just recently hahaha i asked the rude girl about the same thing and i got the result that i want, she walked away.. lolz)
ReplyDeleteBut anyhoo, oks na yan girl, churva na lang sia, isipin mo nalang na uhaw na sa kape ang mga lola mo.... hahaha *joke*
-budang
hahaha sizzum tama ka jn. susyalera kc e2ng c ateng gusto nya xa lng mg sb. tas cla lola nman me pg ka 1stimer. whahahaha
DeleteBenta ang budang! ^_^ But seriously, this makes sense. I, for one, never tried studying in Starbucks kase I'm easily distracted by people (especially cute guys LOL) so I'd rather stay in the farthest corner of our library, listen to the buzz of the electric fan/air-con than try to tune out noise. Anyhoooooo, I think the girl ranting is from the same school as me (judging by that 'Sixwillfix' tag). Ewan ko din ba pero ang burgis din naman nya ng very, very slide (LOL). I would have done the same as yours Anon to try asking what I can do for them kesa makipag-tagisan ka ng ugali sa mga manang. We expect more from the learned to handle this better. That's all.
Delete--- Baklitang French Major
UP represent! Haha She used to be my ge classmate!
Deletesenior moment
ReplyDeleteAno b yn teh. Mej nakakairita ka din kasi may mej pagkayabang ka. Hahahahaha ang yabang yabang ni teh. Hahahahahahaha
ReplyDeleteKung sino mattanda sila tlaga bastos. Ung experience k nmn sa S&R. Accidentally i hit a middle-aged lady with my cart right away i said sorry pero graveh sya. Nagtatalak b nmn sabi sakin can't you see me? Sabhin k sana sa lapad nio imposibleng d k kayo mapansin. Diniinan k nlng ang pag sasabi k ng sorry pra malaman nya na d k sya aatrasan. Hay naku! Bwisit! Ung iba nakapag S&R lang feeling entitled.
ReplyDeleteTheyre so malo"lose"
ReplyDeleteDuring this alleged fight-for-space-drama, have u tried calling the management's attention to ease or leasen some "tension" drifting around?
ReplyDeleteParang mali yata yung hashtag Nya na #culturaldifferences. Perhaps #generationgap is more apt in this situation.
ReplyDeletelessen some tension drifting around, sorry...
ReplyDeleteAH BASTA!...pers kam pers serb!!!...manigas kayo sa paghihintay kung kelan ko gustong umayaw at tumayo sa aking kinauupuan, PERIOD!
ReplyDelete---STARBUCKS ADIK, from Seattle, WA (home of original Starbucks)
Sana kasi teh umorder na lang kayo ng ibang sb products para matahimik sila. Kayo rin eh.
ReplyDeleteI completely understand you. Starbucks "culture" is different from the other fastfood places. I stayed at Starbucks for 2 hours while waiting for my car to be fixed, and had a grande mocha, bottled water and a pastry. No big deal. No one pressured me out. Its either you go out and carry your coffees or wait for a free table(s). And to think these women are in their 40s?!
ReplyDeleteBoth groups are rude. Ok lang tumambay if you order again if not then you're getting seats meant for new customers. 2 hours i think is the maximum time unless walang tao then that's ok. Rude din naman kasi kung peak hours then tambay lang!
ReplyDeletePwedeng tumambay sa Starbucks or kahit San coffee shop Basta umorder ka ng umorder at wag ka lang tumunganga dun at makipag-chismisan! Ok lang sana Kung walang ibang customers na Naghihintay! Basta pag tapos ka ng kumain or magkape layas na para nman makapag-kape rin yung ibang customers in line! Yung ibang students kc tumatambay lng sa SB para mang-hunting ng mga cute guys or para lang masabi na sosyal cla! Yuck!
ReplyDeletethe question here is not how long you stay in a coffee shop, wa ako care if you stay there the whole day or night, and yeah, others are correct in saying na tambayan talaga ang coffee shops, in ayala nga kahit yung mga nagnenetworking naka-tambay, pero hindi naman sila pinapaalis, those middle-aged women have no right to ask anyone to leave after an hour or so, kung yung mga barista nga hindi nagpapaalis ng mga tao eh sila pa, I would do the same thing, lalo kong tatagalan ang pagtambay para lang sila mainis...dedma na sila girl!
ReplyDeleteTHANK YOU FOR THIS FB SCOOP!! I completely agree! Starbucks Robinsons Malolos is the worst! Hindi yung mga baristas ha. They're nice. (Although obvious na baguhan yung iba... pero pwede na rin) But yung mga pumupunta dun!! Nung una nagbukas yun, nagulat ako. May party ba sa loob? yun lang yung napasukan ko na coffee shop na maingay! Punta kayo minsan jan.. pagbukas nyo ng pinto, maririnig nyo na ang ingay. nasanay talaga ako na yung mga students nasa coffee shop, mga nag-aaral, or normal conversations. pero iba jan. party-ingay. sana nag-inuman na lang sila sa bar.
ReplyDeleteCultural differences agad agad?
ReplyDeleteHindi charitable institution ang SB,...para kumita ng 100p sau sa tagal ng pagkakaupo mo...dun kayo s library tumambay....kayong mga estudyante lang nmn ang makapal ang mukhang nagpasimuno ng ganyan...me mali ka rin , Charina...lesson sa yo yan para malaman mong negosyo ang SB...mski mga staffs , mababanas sa inyo...inubos nyo na ata un refill jar ng creamer sa tagal nyo jn...buti nga sau....
ReplyDelete#culturaldifferences I find your hashtag rather misplaced. I don't think it's in our culture not to show common courtesy. It doesn't matter if you feel entitled to your seats because you know of this unspoken Starbucks rule that people can stay as long as they like so long as there's a cup of coffee on their table. That does not excuse you from basic courtesies-- SB is not your living room. Other customers need to sit down. Give up your seat. You have outstayed your welcome.
ReplyDeleteThis will be a lesson for u , guys na tambayan ang SB...esp mga estudyante 'daw'....naturingan edukado kau...pero hnd nyo naisip na need kumita ng.SB....one hr is fair enough ...then leave or order again...imagine, eto ang tigas ng mukha....1) naki free wi-fi na....2) inubos un refill creamer/milk...3) almost 4 hrs nakatambay. 4) naki CR ng 3x or more gumamit ng tissue, handwash soap, litro ng tubig sa flush...5) naki charge pa.... 6) 10Op na coffee lang inorder...7) binulsa pa un 4 sachets ng sugar n cream ...pati un mga tissue , binulsa din....8) galit pa pag me nakitang bagong costumer na naghahanap ng mauupuan...9) sinakop p un isang table para sa laptop, libro, bag , saying ako lang gagamit ng table na to....and worst 10) makikipag away pa sa staff or other clients....now, charina...yan ba ang regular sb girl na sinasabi mo?
ReplyDeletepagpasensyahan nyo na, malamangfirst time sa sb. malamang, galing sa christmas party tapos nanalo ng sb gc sa raffle. kaya ayun, sugod mga kabaranggay ang drama.
ReplyDeleteDon T. Grasa
It was really rude, pero nararanasan rin nmin madalas yung wla ng laman ang cup nila eh d pa umaalis at talagang ninanamnam ang free wifi ng starbucks, nakakainis na magintay ka ng seat sa walang balak pang umalis. Wlang consideration sa ibang costumers ng starbucks. Kiber nila kung nagiintay ka, dapat sa mga ganyan na ilang oras na nakakababad sa starbucks kahit wla ng balak bumili pa ng kape or frappe man lang eh maglatag na dun feeling nila pagaari nila SB eh!
ReplyDeleteyaan mo na yan teh, minsan lang naman sila nakakapag-kape, pagkakuha ng bonus and 13th month.
ReplyDeletePagpasencyahan mo na ang mga lola at nagpapasosyal din cla...feelingerang in cla anong magagawa nyo!...haha!...ninanamnam nila lasa ng Starbucks kung kakaiba ang lasa sa iniinom nila sa bahay nga nmn!...sabay picture lagay sa fb....pra nga nmn feeling sikat sina lola!.....
ReplyDeleteDito sa states tambayan talaga ng mga gusto libre wifi ang SB, ako I stay for almost 3 hrs. Ung iba nga several hours pa sila sila rin ung mga tumatambay ! Tama hindi nga restaurants ang SB na eat and go!
ReplyDeleteStay at other coffee shops instead if you want peace and quiet. You stayed at Starbucks, and in Malolos, for goodness's sake. :P
ReplyDeleteLol ang lakas ng loob manita ng binili eh puro naman frappucino lang din sila hahaha
ReplyDeletea cup of overpriced coffee is not an entitlement. you must finished it within an two hours,and must order another cup every hour after that. that's the unwritten common etiquette sa coffee shops, high end man o hindi. dapat alam din yan ng nagrereklamo. gusto mo ng tambayan na with aircon? maglakad lakad sa mall. gusto mo mag-aral? ano ginagawa ng school library? the truth is, maraming kumo-coffee shop para lang masabing sosyal sila. eh sa first world countries, ang tumatambay sa coffee shop eh talagang tambay at walang trabaho at umaasa sa unemployment benefits given by their government.
ReplyDeletePareho silang mali. Rude yung ladies, no question. Pero I understand yung frustration na I myself also want a cup of coffee, time to enjoy it with the so-called ambience that some commenters mention here tapos puno ang Starbucks ng mostly customers who are way past done with their drinks or food tas naka tambay lang. Yes, I'll leave and find another place. Pero may courtesy din sana yung ibang tao to see that other people would like to sit too. Sa mga nagcocompare sa US/Europe with coffee shop culture na pwde magtagal however you want, it's not true. The difference is when they see people looking for seats at a full coffee shop, more than likely someone already done will get up and offer space. THAT'S courtesy. Maraming sensitive and ma-pride na Filipinos unfortunately.
ReplyDeleteNa jojologs na kasi ang starbucks
ReplyDeletekabastusan naman kasi yung papaalisin ka sa pwesto mo, kahit ano pang order mo or tumambay ka lang dun. binayaran mo din naman yun pati yung ambiance. oh well may edad na kasi kaya ganun. it happens talaga. hirap ng ganyang sitwasyon.
ReplyDeleteMadalas pala sa Starbucks. The writer would have known it was called "frap" not "frappe".
ReplyDeleteBa yan pati spelling pinansin
DeleteIrrelevant.
DeleteSustained!
DeleteThird-world social climbers problem
ReplyDeleteMga feelingera kasi mga nag hahangout jan sa SB, susulitin ung binayad sa kape at tatambay makikiwifi at magseselfie para masabeng sosyalen kaya kahit 5 oras na nakaupo ayaw mo lumayas kahit na madaming nag aantay!
ReplyDeleteHere's my 2 cents worth..
ReplyDeleteVery rude ang dating ni tita. Bully at ill-mannered, not worth stopping to their level. I agree with some of the comments here, respect and consideration for others and kailangan.
As far as students go, i know nasanay na kayong tambayan and SB, pero common sense lang, it is first and foremost a food & drinks venue. You also need to observe basic courtesy and give respect and consideration for others who may want to utilize the place for what it is intended for. Sure, stay for a bit, why not. Kung napansin niyo dumadami na ang tao at ang intention niyo pala ay matagalang study o tambay, sa mall, library o sa bahay na lng kayo. You also need to be considerate of the proprietors (who, by the way, are also at fault here) that need to make a profit.
At the end of the day, you are all to blame. Kulang lahat sa self-discipline at mga pasaway. I am very familiar with the coffee culture and have been to many places around the world where old AND young people enjoy, take time out but are also considerate of others at marunong makiramdam.
Asus nasayo na sana ang simpatya ko charuna kaso nung mabasa ko fb comments ng mga social climber mong friends duda ako! Mukhang kayo itong mga walang manners at feeling niyo sososyal niyo dahil nakapag SB kayo lol
ReplyDeleteProbably di nga sila sanay sa coffee shop culture. Kami ng mga barkada ko hindi kami magoorder unless we already have a place/table na pwedeng mapuwestuhan kasi nga aware kami na unpredictable ang mga customers at di ka pwedeng maghintay sa wala. pag puno sa starbucks lipat sa coffee bean or seattle's.
ReplyDeleteMaturity does not come with age indeed. To the ones who keep saying that the younger group was at fault, too, huy basahin nang maigi ang post. Binully sila. Nang-invade na nga sila manang ng space, palengkera pa masyado. This is why hindi lahat ng mas nakakatanda sa iyo ay dapat mong respetuhin, only give your respect to the ones who deserve it. How barbaric!
ReplyDeletepareho nman clang mali. ung group ng matatanda hnd tama na ppringgan mo ung nkaupa at siksik mo n halos ung sarili mo. ung ngsulat nman d2 obyus nman na mapanghamak sa mahihirap grabe nman mkpangmata ng tao. hnd nman porke mdlas sa sb akala mo nman kung cnu kna. mayabang dn xa n filing nya cla lng n mga mataas s lipunan ang pde mg sb. hnd porke ng order k you will stay there for a day. hello akala mo lng ok lng s sb staff pero s 22o lng inookray nman tlg nila kau. mayaman lng kc usually kya wala cla nggwa. sa tingin ko khit magkaibang mundo ung 2 group of customer n e2 isa lng ang tingin ko pareho lng clang nging walang pinag aralan. even the one who wrote the incident. hahahaha... chepepay dn kau. just like sa group ng mga matnda n sinasabi nyang bastos s story nya.
ReplyDeleteAgree
DeleteWalang manners
ReplyDeleteAteng mas rude ka.... Have u ever heard of courtesy??? Konting hiya naman sa ibang nagbabayad teh yes tambayan yan but have the decency to others! More than 1 hr teh??? U dont have any consideration sa ibang customers! To think na nagaaral ka pa naman basic thing on respect teh pag me nakakatanda na nakatayo paupuin mo teh! Kakahiya ka naman... Nagmataas ka pa talaga... Shame....
ReplyDeleteAteng binasa mo ba yung article? Snabi na nga nya na kalahiti palang yung naiinom nyang frap at 1/4 cinnamon roll, parinig na ng parinig. Pag binabastos ka. Are you going to nice? I bet not and fyi, if you have eaten at starbucks you know the cinnamon roll is quite big and full of icing. About the basic courtesy and respect you are talking about, if someone disrespects me first. specially when they need something from me. They can kiss my a**. Shame on the older women who tries to bully customers who aren't done eating. To the one who wrote the letter good for you! I would have deliberately stayed longer. tit for tat
DeleteMinsan OA din talaga ang iba kung magtagal sa SB.
ReplyDeleteObviously, those middle aged women are naive, rude and forgot their manners. Starbucks is not fastfood. Here in US, students or anyone stays for hours or even the whole day to study, to chat or just chill, and that's acceptable.
ReplyDeleteLol. Kakakuha lang daw kasi nila ng bonus nila. Climb pa more
ReplyDeleteJust by looking on it, i can say...they are public school teachers..lol! The porma, the bags at pati mga mukha nila. Hahaha! Dont get me wrong, i love teachers. :)
ReplyDeleteYeah, what those middle-aged women did was wrong and rude pero the whole scene was just SO CHEAP. Mali din yung collage students. Nag-sasagutan pa sila, sana tumahimik nalang yung college student, or kausapin ng maayos ng isang beses pero hindi na nagparinigan pa.
ReplyDeleteMga Girls - Sana ganito ang sinabi nyo -"hoy mga matronix, hindi nyo ba alam, professional istambay kami?". Ha ha. Hindi alam ng mga majojonda, wala naman talaga kayong mga bahay. For the price of one cup of coffee per day, nagkaroon kayo ng living room, bathroom at free WIFI.
ReplyDeleteMga nanay ng mga kinder, naka alala gumala muna, dyan napadpad,
ReplyDeleteObvious nmn na mga first timers at social climbers.
Ang mga kabataan ngayon ang babaw! Konting kibot, picture, post sa fb, rant! Paganahin ang pasensya at pag unawa! Kung nang harass ang ibang customer you could havecalled the guard and the manager to take care of the situation.
ReplyDeleteThese ladies shouldn't feel so entitled just so they bought so much. I mean, yes, you may ask courteously if some seats can be taken, but the gesture of making palibot while someones eating/drinking is a bit off knowing that they are much older.
ReplyDeleteLike, girls, they stopped making tambay na sa barangay just to get some coffee.
matuto ka ren kseng makiramdam ate... ako nga pag tumatambay ako dyan pag gusto ko pa magstay bumibili ko ulet pra di nakakahiya sa mga naghihintay kse i still have a reason to stay dhel may iniinom or kinakain pa ko.. tama nman na un sinabe na un lang inorder niyo eh gusto niyo opening til closing ata dun... oa na yan... matanda na yan tehh. patol pa?? nagrereklamo ka to get sympathy eh nakakahiya nga un asal niyo... matanda na di niyo pa pinaupo.. so insensitive na kelangan pa kayo paringgan ng mga matatanda... automatic na yan dapat khet nasan ka pa.. remember tatanda ka ren...
ReplyDeleteHahahaha. Tama!
DeleteIn my opinion, pareho lang sila na may mali. Why? Although alam naman natin ang basic SB coffee shop etiquette e dapat, dahil din siguro sa culture natin e mag-give way tayo lalo na sa mas matanda hindi porket ganon ang practice sa ibang bansa e ganun din tayo, sila naman (ibang tao sa ibang bansa) kasi wala sila respect sa mas nakakatanda sa kanila PERO.. hindi rin porket matanda ka e dapat pagbibigyan kadin, depende yan sa tao... sa kwento na ito, e dapat hindi ganon ang asal nila... wala namang kamodo modo ang peg. Hindi ka dapat ganon, pambihira. Dapat nga of all people, sila ung nagseset ng good example. Sad lang.
ReplyDeleteExcuse you. Dami kong nakikitang ibang lahi na mas magalang pa kesa sa mga pinoy. They give their seats up for the pregnant, elderly and disabled. Sa pinas, itutulak pa yan o hoholdapin. There's no need to drag other cultures down to bring yours up. Find a better way to emphasize your point. #utaktalangka
DeleteIt depends what the situation is you can hang out for as long as you want in a coffee shop but regardless whether its a cafe or resto and the place is packed and as you said theres a long cue of people for coffee i guess its common courtesy to give way to others. Thats where manners and breeding come into play. They may be rude but its not bad to show a little kindness once in a while.
ReplyDeletePareho silang mali. Yung middle-aged woman who had to make parinig and intrude on someone else's personal space just to get her point across, and itong poster na may sense of entitlement.
ReplyDeleteWhat did you order in starbucks and how long were you there? Base sa post, mukhang maiksi na yung 1.5 hours silang nasa coffee shop.
Yung mga ibang commenters dito making fun of the middle-aged people's social standing, shame on you. Kailan pa naging sosyal ang pagtatambay sa starbucks?!
I agree!
DeleteActually, in Singapore coffee shops are often used as study area by most students, but they are only allowed to stay for 2 hours, if they still want to stay they need to make additional order. Respeto nalang din since di mo naman bahay and someone may need the seat. Cguro ok na ang two hours sa kwnetuhan. Di ko lang alam sa Pinas if this applies.
ReplyDeleteShe took your photo without asking for your permission? That's invasion of privacy. Had these harridans been in another country with strict privacy laws, they can be jailed.
ReplyDeleteOa ng argument...im sure hindi ginusto ng starbucks tambayan sila..pinauso lang yan ng mga th...tingin mo sa mahal ng space jan eh maglaan sila para sa kwentuhan? Wala lang sila choice malamang
ReplyDeleteGet real din minsan...wag i flatter ang sarili na priority sa sb...believe me..mas gusto nila lumayas agad customers para makaupo ulet ung iba
ReplyDeleteNagkita kita mga trying hard what do u expect teh
ReplyDeleteAnnoying nga pero minsan annoying din ang students gngwang library ang coffee shops alam nmn may pambili pero wlang maupuan ung gusyong magunwind manlang...
ReplyDeleteMano ba namang magpa assist na lang sa staff. O ano ba naman yung makiusap ng maayos. Kung ako man pakiusapan ng maayos, pero kasi, mayabang din makaasta tong isa. Feeling entitled nga. Guess they havent heard of common courtesy. Pareho silang bastos.
ReplyDeleteI think posting this photo is invasion of privacy. Very wrong and immature.
ReplyDeleteSolution:
ReplyDeleteBigger space = more seats.
Ang social climber ay galit sa kapwa social climber - j napoles
ReplyDeletengayon lang nagka SB sa malolos, what do u expect? siempre excited mga pipol kaya queueing everytime... yes, its not a fastfood chain but if you are seeing many people already in the area and you're almost done with your food, you could have changed venue so you can continue your chikahan so other people also can experience the SB ambiance so to speak since sabi ko nga, its relatively new for malolos residents. common courtesy lang naman yan... both sides may point it was just the way its said siguro kaya its being blown out of proportion. coffee shops are not libraries para dun kayo mag aral and own a space the whole, especially when there are several paying customers around. pwede niyo siguro gawin yan kung wala masyadong tao but sabi ko nga, bago lang yan sa malolos kaya laging madaming tao...as for the group of mid age women, pwede naman magsabi ng maayos at hindi pa sarcastic, im sure gawain din naman nila yan before...nagkataon lang me nauna sa kanila.
ReplyDelete15 persons, limited seats, pero gusto magstay - wait patiently nalang and/or ask nicely if almost done na sila or if wala na silang hinihintay para pwedeng kunin yung spare seats.
ReplyDeleteBetter yet, leave kayo ng suggestion sa Starbucks. Bigger space = more seats.
sana gayahin ito ng bubble gang. for sure nakakatawa.lol
ReplyDeleteFirst of all, kung 15 kayo at nakita niyo na walang enough tables and chairs para sainyo, wag niyo na muna isipin na makakaupo kayong lahat. Pwede naman kasi na bumili muna kayong lahat ng drinks niyo at malay niyo while waiting for your drinks, magkaron ng vacant seats. Or kung sa paghihintay niyo e sa tingin niyo walang aalis anytime soon, buy your drinks then go. Pwede naman kayo magkwentuhan while enjoying your Starbucks drinks ng di nagsstay.
ReplyDeleteWhatever the culture is, RESPECT IS RESPECT. If there is someone occupying the seat, no one has the right to ask them to leave! They are not doing anything harmful and they were there first. If you can't find seats then leave!
ReplyDeleteonly in the phils na ginagawang tambayan ang starbucks! hindi po tambayan ate starbucks,,oo hindi sya fastfood, coffeesshop nga eh, but not necessary mean kpg bumili ka ng coffee mo eh dun ka mag stay for as long as you want! C'mon, sa pinas lang nangyayari yan hahaha! those mid-aged woman eh hindi mo masisi kung maiinis kung makikita nmn nya ang lahat eh tpos na magcoffee at all occupied ang seats. yun eh ang purpose nila eh magkape at hindi tumambay... not what ate said, dun sya nag aaral, reunion with a friend. well... that's only in the philippines!!!!
ReplyDeleteBoth parties were wrong in so many ways...it is rude for the middle aged merlat to babble and allude but it is also wrong for that charina girl and her friends to stay there for as long as they want,yes there is a "right of privacy" when youre occupying a space in SB pero HELLO give consideration also to those other customer who wanna use the space you are occupying dahil hindi mo naman personal space yan like DUH!...yun na! Paaak!
ReplyDeleteBoth parties were wrong in so many ways...it is rude for the middle aged merlat to babble and allude but it is also wrong for that charina girl and her friends to stay there for as long as they want,yes there is a "right of privacy" when youre occupying a space in SB pero HELLO give consideration also to those other customer who wanna use the space you are occupying dahil hindi mo naman personal space yan like DUH!...yun na! Paaak!
ReplyDeleteUng middle aged ladies should have looked for another place nlng sana instead of acting like kids. Ung nag-post naman should have a little consideration na mejo wag gawing sala ng bahay ung SB to stay there for more than an hour or so.
ReplyDeleteUng middle aged ladies should have looked for another place nlng sana instead of acting like kids. Ung nag-post naman should have a little consideration na mejo wag gawing sala ng bahay ung SB to stay there for more than an hour or so.
ReplyDeleteBulacan ba kamo ang Starbucks? Malamang mga ignorante yan grupo ng mga babaeng yan
ReplyDeletehindi sna lalaki ang issue kong nag observe n lng ng basic filipino values n mag offer ng upuan s mga nakakatanda. at ska mapagpasensya s mga may edad. ganyan talaga mga yan kasi nagkakaedad. isipin n lng natin mga nanay natin. papano kong sa kanila nangyari yan. kong anak ganyan ang magiging anak ko. kawawa siguro s akin.
ReplyDeleteItaas ang kamay ng lumaklak ng sankaterbang frappe pra lng mgka strbucks planner hehe....
ReplyDeleteKng drinks lng orderin nyo, to go nyo na lng kesa for here....klk
ba't nyo naman pinatulan ang mga yan. you should have brought the matter to the staff ng sb. pareho tuloy kayong walang respeto.
ReplyDeleteTrue, you can stay at SB as long as you want provided there are few customers around. Pero naman pagnakita mo na mahabang pila and you've been there for more than 40 minutes, I think as a respect for others dapat lang na dahandahan ka ng umalis. The coffee and cinnamon at SB though expensive does not give you the right to stay all day specially when people started to cue up.
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