i was there the staff said it nicely.. ang daming over makareact. binura nya? bakit? kasi that person is lying..grabe..pasko na grabe naman, bago bago ng ugali pag may time...
The right question should be anong gagawin ni vice tungkol sa issue na yan. He is a major investor sa valkyrie. Ngaun malalaman ang katotohanan sa mga pronouncements nya about equality, discrimination, labeling, etc
Cross dressing lang naman si viceral pag sa mga shows niya at entertainment pero pag sa personal private na e hindi! Iniimpluwensyahan lang mga nanunuod at sumusubaybay sa kanyang mga fans ng nagpapatakbo at kumokontrol sa kanyang network!
respect policies of clubs and bars din sana. i have nothing against cross dressers pero we have to understand that managers, bouncers etc are following rules imposed by their management.
The rule itself is discriminatory! Mygosh, what year is this, seriously?! And kung may ganong 'rule' dapat nakasulat at nakikita ng mga guests kahit man lang sa may entrance. I doubt na meron talagang ganong rule. No offense sa ngpost pero baka mukha kayong dugyot kaya hindi pinapasok. Most bars do that lalo na sa us..
@ AnonymousDecember 1, 2014 at 12:20 AM I understand that RULES ARE RULES, but how those persons (managers, bouncers etc) implement those rules and how they explain it to the customers matters A LOT. They should still respect them as individuals, regardless of their sexual orientation.
Pagayaw wag na! Bar nila yan they set their own rules! Rules are to be followed! Wag na magpumilit at magpakafeeling importante! If you wanna be respected well then respect their rules! Then you'll get respect in return! At kung di pwede edi sa ibang bar ka pumunta! Problema ba yun! Kesa magkukuda kuda ka dyan begging for a small amount of awa!
Wala namang sinabing nagpumilit yung taong concerned pumasok at nagpaka-feeling importante siya. Ang nilalaban ng nag-post is that the cross dresser should have been refused entry in a manner that was not disrespectful or rude. You don't even know what happened. The cross dresser might have actually been respectful, but he was treated with disrespect in return simply because of the way he was dressed. Wag ka din kuda ng kuda basta basta sana.
Pano ka naman sure na respectful si crossdresser that time? Andun ka ba? Witness ka ba? Did you saw the whole incident? Sooooo, WAG KA DING KUDA KUDA DYAN.
I can just think of two reasons hindi nila inaallow ang crossdresser in some bars and it's just practicality, one for safety of all clients and two limited facilities. Safety kasi baka may magkapatayan na nman pag may naloko na girlalu sila tapos magkakaalaman sa huli. Limited facility, pag need nila mag weewee, saan ba talaga sila, there's only two toilets available, He & She. So para maiwasan na lang all these discomforts, few sacrifices should be done.
WAIT. I was there. Maraming nakapasok na cross dressers uy. Sina Xtina Superstar, Margaux Medina, etc. Pero siguro din kase frienlaloos nila ang mga owner. This is sad. Sana wala nalang discrimination. Bad grabe.
I dont think ung pagiging cross dresser nya ang reason why they were not allowed to go in. Mukha siguro silang cheap or mejo dugyot. Nakakababa din kasi ng 'value' ng bar kung mukhang kahit sino nalang pwedeng pumasok. Baka sinita ung suot tapos inassume nila na dahil crossdresser sila. Mga ateng, gandahan naman kasi ang makeup at outfit, ung mukang sosyal!
Ayaw daw ng negativity so bakit mo pinost? Mas affected ka pa kesa sa friend mo?! Or baka naman kasi over crowded na sa bar or unless karimarimarim ang hitsura ng friend mong nag crossdresser.
Cross dressers and trannies are different from each other. If it was their rule to refuse entry, they should be consistent and at least post it on their door so that cross dressers are aware and avoid being humiliated in front of anyone. But then again, why is there such a rule? If I am a female by birth but choose to wear male clothing, will I also be banned from going inside their place? If it's about security... heard from the grapevine that there were cross dressers caught stealing from customers at another bar/gimmick place... it's up to their security staff to make sure that such do not happen. In short, I think this is discrimination.
The security's job is to keep peace and order in the bar and not to keep an eye on to everyone's belongings. It is the patrons' obligation to be wary of their things. Wag i-blame ang security dahil nanakawan ka ng gamit sa loob ng club na sobrang daming tao with dim lighting. It's not rocket science. If it's discrimination, sana lahat ng bakla hindi pinapasok sa club. The club is imposing their rules. Try nyang mag cry foul sa mga clubs sa Tate dahil the club doesn't want him to be in it, wala siyang magagawa. OA lang talaga siya.
Cross-dressers are TRANSVESTITE. Should not confuse them with Trannies or TRANSGENDERS. Marami nagsabing staff werent rude. Na-offend lang siguro si CD dahil he was refused entry. That would be really embarrassing esp if it happened with his friends and strangers around.
Eh di sana yung friend mo na lang nagpost hindi ikaw! Tse!
ReplyDelete-not vice ganda
Si inday garutay ba ito? Rustom gandanghari? Shalala? Kuya germs na parang isang bulate na lang ang pipirma?
Deletei was there the staff said it nicely.. ang daming over makareact. binura nya? bakit? kasi that person is lying..grabe..pasko na grabe naman, bago bago ng ugali pag may time...
DeleteKorek... Sana sa Ermita/Malate nalang siya nagpunta!!! LOL
DeleteBakit nakapasok si Vice Ganda?
ReplyDeleteEh isa sya sa may ari eh
DeleteCheck! Pero fabulous daw eh. Baka bawal pag fabulous? Hmm.
DeleteSi vice isa sa may-ari
DeleteThe right question should be anong gagawin ni vice tungkol sa issue na yan. He is a major investor sa valkyrie. Ngaun malalaman ang katotohanan sa mga pronouncements nya about equality, discrimination, labeling, etc
DeleteCross dressing lang naman si viceral pag sa mga shows niya at entertainment pero pag sa personal private na e hindi! Iniimpluwensyahan lang mga nanunuod at sumusubaybay sa kanyang mga fans ng nagpapatakbo at kumokontrol sa kanyang network!
DeleteAnonymousDecember 1, 2014 at 12:30 AM kaloka, hanggang bibig lang iyan si vice kabayo no!
Deletebaka may rule si vice na bawal ang mga fabulous para siya lang talaga ang headturner...hahaha
DeleteYes agree! Respect, respect, respect!
ReplyDeletePeople are so shallow when it comes to accepting the gay community. That is so over the past! A law should protect them in times like this!
respect policies of clubs and bars din sana. i have nothing against cross dressers pero we have to understand that managers, bouncers etc are following rules imposed by their management.
ReplyDeleteAnd vice ganda is one of the investor of this bar.
DeleteAgree, If thats the policy ng bar/club then simply follow the rules.
DeleteThe rule itself is discriminatory! Mygosh, what year is this, seriously?! And kung may ganong 'rule' dapat nakasulat at nakikita ng mga guests kahit man lang sa may entrance. I doubt na meron talagang ganong rule. No offense sa ngpost pero baka mukha kayong dugyot kaya hindi pinapasok. Most bars do that lalo na sa us..
Delete@ AnonymousDecember 1, 2014 at 12:20 AM
DeleteI understand that RULES ARE RULES,
but how those persons (managers, bouncers etc) implement those rules and how they explain it to the customers matters A LOT.
They should still respect them as individuals, regardless of their sexual orientation.
Si oyabak nakakaparty dyarrrn ah! Si Margaux ng becky nights din!
ReplyDeletePagayaw wag na! Bar nila yan they set their own rules! Rules are to be followed! Wag na magpumilit at magpakafeeling importante! If you wanna be respected well then respect their rules! Then you'll get respect in return! At kung di pwede edi sa ibang bar ka pumunta! Problema ba yun! Kesa magkukuda kuda ka dyan begging for a small amount of awa!
ReplyDeleteTrue atey! Bet ko amg comment mo. Apir!
DeleteWala namang sinabing nagpumilit yung taong concerned pumasok at nagpaka-feeling importante siya. Ang nilalaban ng nag-post is that the cross dresser should have been refused entry in a manner that was not disrespectful or rude. You don't even know what happened. The cross dresser might have actually been respectful, but he was treated with disrespect in return simply because of the way he was dressed. Wag ka din kuda ng kuda basta basta sana.
DeletePano ka naman sure na respectful si crossdresser that time? Andun ka ba? Witness ka ba? Did you saw the whole incident? Sooooo, WAG KA DING KUDA KUDA DYAN.
DeleteIt's "did you see" not "did you saw".
DeleteI agree. Mukang hindi naman nag pa importante. sabi nya naintindihan nya ang rules pero yung pag treat sa cross dresser ang unacceptable.
DeleteSi ms margaux medina naman cross dresser din diba? Bat nakapasok?
ReplyDeleteWell if you have to be technical about it, Margaux is a transgendered and not a cross-dresser.
DeleteI can just think of two reasons hindi nila inaallow ang crossdresser in some bars and it's just practicality, one for safety of all clients and two limited facilities. Safety kasi baka may magkapatayan na nman pag may naloko na girlalu sila tapos magkakaalaman sa huli. Limited facility, pag need nila mag weewee, saan ba talaga sila, there's only two toilets available, He & She. So para maiwasan na lang all these discomforts, few sacrifices should be done.
ReplyDeleteAgree!!!
DeleteDapat 3 ang CR nila: His, Hers, and Horse!
DeleteAndaming crossdresser jan na nakapasok. Yung friend mo ang may problema.
ReplyDeleteWAIT. I was there. Maraming nakapasok na cross dressers uy. Sina Xtina Superstar, Margaux Medina, etc. Pero siguro din kase frienlaloos nila ang mga owner. This is sad. Sana wala nalang discrimination. Bad grabe.
ReplyDeleteI dont think ung pagiging cross dresser nya ang reason why they were not allowed to go in. Mukha siguro silang cheap or mejo dugyot. Nakakababa din kasi ng 'value' ng bar kung mukhang kahit sino nalang pwedeng pumasok. Baka sinita ung suot tapos inassume nila na dahil crossdresser sila. Mga ateng, gandahan naman kasi ang makeup at outfit, ung mukang sosyal!
ReplyDeletediscrimination to grabe, if she/he can pay the entrance and the booze sana papasukin.
ReplyDeleteIn New York, it's much more strict.
ReplyDeleteThey have their own rules and regulations. So better be nice to bouncers and promoters. It is still a private place even though it's a club.
Just the respect the house you're about to enter.
kasi naman marami foreyner sa bar na un.. tas papapsok sila mga x dresser baka ma laude laude na naman sila. mga x dresser sa gaybar na lang kau kasi
ReplyDeletebaka naman wala namang invitation...bitter kasi hindi pinapasok
ReplyDeleteAyaw daw ng negativity so bakit mo pinost? Mas affected ka pa kesa sa friend mo?!
ReplyDeleteOr baka naman kasi over crowded na sa bar or unless karimarimarim ang hitsura ng friend mong nag crossdresser.
Eh kasi sya talaga yun kunyari lang "friend" nya. Haha
DeleteKapag totoong kaibigan ka kasi na-affected ka rin teh! relate ako kasi nagawa ko na rin ito for a friend
Deletei think vice ganda is a part owner of valkyrie.. i dont think papayag sia na ganyanain ung mga tao na cross dresser..
ReplyDeletekung bawal ang mga fabulous crossdressers,bakit pinapayagan sila gitri San Diego, Kevin Balot at marami pang iba.. di ba?
ReplyDeletepag alam nilang kilalang trans/gay pinapapasok nila para walang gulo sa media.
DeleteCross dressers and trannies are different from each other. If it was their rule to refuse entry, they should be consistent and at least post it on their door so that cross dressers are aware and avoid being humiliated in front of anyone. But then again, why is there such a rule? If I am a female by birth but choose to wear male clothing, will I also be banned from going inside their place?
ReplyDeleteIf it's about security... heard from the grapevine that there were cross dressers caught stealing from customers at another bar/gimmick place... it's up to their security staff to make sure that such do not happen. In short, I think this is discrimination.
The security's job is to keep peace and order in the bar and not to keep an eye on to everyone's belongings. It is the patrons' obligation to be wary of their things. Wag i-blame ang security dahil nanakawan ka ng gamit sa loob ng club na sobrang daming tao with dim lighting. It's not rocket science. If it's discrimination, sana lahat ng bakla hindi pinapasok sa club. The club is imposing their rules. Try nyang mag cry foul sa mga clubs sa Tate dahil the club doesn't want him to be in it, wala siyang magagawa. OA lang talaga siya.
DeleteCross-dressers are TRANSVESTITE. Should not confuse them with Trannies or TRANSGENDERS. Marami nagsabing staff werent rude. Na-offend lang siguro si CD dahil he was refused entry. That would be really embarrassing esp if it happened with his friends and strangers around.
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