Pabago-bago ng statement yung Roxanne. Sabi di daw pala sa Astoria, probinsiyana daw kasi. Tapos di maalala yung exact date ng rape. Kaloka lang si ate. Di alam kung kailan na rape. Pagkakaalam ko sa mga victim tandang-tanda kung kailan at saan ang crime.
Eh ano kung probinsyana!! if excuse yan ni Roxanne dapat batuhin yan ng kamatis kasi discrimination yan sa mga taga probinsya. Ako probinsyana rin pero d ako sumasama sa mga lalaki sa dis oras nang gabi...T@ng@ lang ang peg ng kiwi model na yan
Impossible na mkalimutan nia ung date kng kelan xa narape.... I was once a victim at kahit 8yrs na ang nka lipas tandang tanda q pa ung araw kng kelan un ngyari! Makakalimutan q pa bday q pero not that day!
Roxanne! lahat ng rape victims NEVER as in NEVER nila makalimutan ang araw at oras ng pangrerape sa kanila. kayo lang yata ni deniece ang nacoconfuse sa datss ng panggagahasa sa inyo! mukha talaga kayong pera noh? kalokah! gusto lang sumikat
Not true, maraming victims, bina block sa conscious mind nila ang traumatic event sa life nila just to move on. You have to be a pscychologist or psychiatrist to understand the human behavior.
yes they can block it but as soon as something triggers it, it can all come crashing back to them. details may not be as exact but they will eventually remember.
yung date baka pwede makalimutan. pero ang hotel, medyo malabo yun. paano kaya malulusutan ito ng kampo nung roxan na yan ang error na ito? fatal ito sa kaso. sa technicality sila titrahin ng kampo ni vhong.
At anon 1am, i have to agree with u however, again, the alleged rape happened only 1 time. You cant just possibly forget the date, let alone the place. I say, bull$h*t on this one. Nakakaawa ang mga real victims, ginawa nilang katawa-tawa
Whatever excuse ang sasabihin ni Roxanne, nakalimutan man or hindi. Sabihin man ng psychologist or psychiatrist na possible ang mental block. One thing is for sure, if ipakita sa psychologist iyong mga interviews ni Roxanne from Bandila and sa GMA, many times nagpopoint mata niya sa left upper, which indicates a person is constructing a story that has not happened in the past. Therefore, she is lying.
And sabi nila, matagal nila pinag aralan bago i file, bakit hindi niya ni recall ng maayus. Cguro yung date or time pwede pa makalimutan pro yung hotel, impossible. Dahil dun kayo naka check in.tsk tsk
Anon 1:00 bina-block nila consciously, pero embedded yan sa subconscious ng victims. gusto nila kalimutan, pero never nilang nakakalimutan, kaya nga sila naguundergo ng intensive therapy eh. you have to be a psychologist to understand inner human behavior.
Eh ang ganda nmn ksi ng kwento niya.. dba it happened dw that night after nagstudio audience sila sa showtime.." so hinding hindi niya malilimutan ang date...
@Anon 1:00: Yeah i know that some block the actual incident... but not this case... they can even remember the date/time or even the flow of discussion yung mga words na sinasabi daw ni vhong naalala nila... but yung Date and Location hindi nila maalala....
if they can't remember it... why force yourself to submit a questionable date/location as your affidavit
coming from someone who had an attempted rape experience, we do try to block/forget that traumatic experience. i have forgotten when exactly it happened, though i still have an idea kung saan and what happened. at first, hindi mo makalimutan but as time goes by, you move on and go on with your life. but my experience was attempted lang and i got out of it safely naman. not sure pag may rape na talagang nangyari
daig pa sya ng lolo ko, pakwento ka ng tungkol sa panahon ng hapon, daming ikekwento pati lugar, yung pangalan nung amerikanong general na nakasama nila, etc. Samantalang tong roxanne na to bata pa, ulyanin na!
hypnosis is not a very reliable source. you can be hypnotized but only if you choose be. proof? my psychology prof was asked to be hypnotized as part of a study but it never happened. she wasn't hypnotized
Rape IS a serious crime. Pero teh 12:48, kung sa interview pa lang may conviction ka na and detailed ang time and date and you specifically said na "TANDANG-TANDA" mo lahat ng nangyari, tapos biglang babaguhin mo at ieexcuse mo eh probinsiyana ka, hindi yan simpleng "blocking from the mind". and tawag dun LYING.
Yes, no one in their right mind will just accuse someone of rape. So it just shows that she's not on her right mind. And a person who's not in her right mind can accuse anybody for the sake of money or other things.
At sinabi pa niyang THEY REMAINED FRIENDS daw. Wala akong alam na nirape na nakikipag-"friends" parin sa rapist. Ang alam kong taong natrauma eh lumalayo, iwinawaksi and nadidiri sa umabuso sa kaniya.
the exact date of sexual assault is useless what should control is the fact of the commission of the rape the proof of the penetration of the female organ People vs bunagan
qualify the word penetration. complete penetration is not essential. even the slightest penetration of male genitalia to that of the female genitalia is enough to consummate rape. meaning kahit nadampi lang, rape na yon. people v. crisostomo or people v. butiong
Aksaya sa oras at pera lang yang sila Deniece at Roxanne eh. Walang kasusta-sustansya ang pinagsasasabi! Naway ibasura na agad ang kaso nila laban kay Vhong.
ipagpalagay natin na totoo yung isang comment dito na posible yung nakakalimutan kasi chuva chuva ganyan. pero bakit nagfile si roxanne ng affidavit na nagcoconfirm nga na kung anong date siya ni-rape at kung sang hotel sila nakacheck in. e di sana beforehand palang sinabi na niyang hindi niya maalala. kagrabe. grabe talaga
This! Legal doc yung affidavit eh sworn statement nga eh. Kung ano nakalagay doon dapat fact. Kung hindi sure sa mga specific facts dapat sinabi. Bobarns din yung abogado nila eh dapat iniexplain yun sa kliyente. Sabagay hindi pala talaga abogado gumawa nun kundi script writer. Tsk.
And in addition to that, whatever new date they would file will be unrealiable since it is suppose to be same day that they guested in Vhong's show unless iba rin ung date nung guesting sa Showtime (?).
At teka lang naman Probinsyana din ako, i first stepped foot sa Manila at the age of 20 and ang unang-una kong tinatandaan ay kung saang lugar ako. Boplax talaga itong Roxanne!
yang rape case nila deniece and roxanne, mababasura lang yan ng korte. kasi ni isang proof wala naman sila e. it's just their word against vhong. playboy man si vhong, iba ang playboy sa rapist. and sa tinagal tagal nya showbiz makikita naman ano ang character ni vhong eh. wala kahit anong tsismis na may nakaaway o may binastos. itong 2 babae lang na to ang sobrang kakapal ng mukha para manira ng pangalan ni vhong. lalo na yang roxanne. magpaganda ka muna teh para may mang rape na tlga syo.
oxanne reminds me of someone. What's her name again? Ah, yes! Deniece!! That's it! Para lang siyang si Deniece, pabago bago ng statements. Gamitin din sana ang brain cells Roxanne hindi puro gamit ng gamit ng foundation. Payo ko lang, hanap ka kaya ng shade ng foundation na kapareha ng skin mo and blend blend blend.
Minsan mas ok na di isapubliko mga alas na pangontra ng side ni Vhong para di na mabago ng mga sinungaling na kalaban version nila. Masurprise kumbaga na sopla pala sila and too late na to revise.
Sige lets give Roxanne the benefit of the doubt na sa sobrang trauma eh hindi nya maalala ang exact details. Sabi nya inikwento nya sa sister and friend nya. Edi they should be able to confirm kahit man lang date kung kailan kinwento sa kanya to support roxannes claim. Siguro naman hindi rin natrauma yung pinagkwentohan nya diba.
di nman nya pede ibahin ang date kasi nung april 24 pinakita na nandun nga sila sa showtime tapos nun din araw na yon may staff ng showtime kumuha daw ng number nya?? anyare?
dpat bago sya nag file inalam mna nya yong tama, pra di sya katawatawa. porke wala si Vhong nong April 24 at madaming makakapag testify non, biglang iibahin yong date,nkakaloka. pareho lng sila ni Deniece, matibay na evidence nmn na attempted lang ni file nya, ngayon not only once but twice na rape hahaha... kawawa tlga yong mga totoong na rape ng dahil sa knila.
No one can forgot ng date..time at place ng attempted rape or rape kung totoo tong nangyari. I'm an attempted rape victim at ung mga scenes na un ay paulit ulit na nakikita ko sa isip ko. Imposible na makalimutan ang totoong details ganitong krimen. Sino pa ang maniniwala sa aming mga TUNAY na biktima.
Ilang beses na kaya narape tong si roxanne...alangan naman once lang hindi pa matandaan ang date at place...! As much as i want to sympathized with her being the 'victim' pero she couldnt even get her story straight.
Binago yung place and date na rape sya pano kasi alam nabisto na imposible kahit probinsyana ka siguro nmn marunong kang magbasa nakasali ka nga sa beauty pagent so ibig sabihin di ka ganun ka shunga para di malaman yung name manlang nung hotel na tinuluyan nya pag interview nya di pa nga tumutulo yung luha nya lagay kagad ng tissue sa mata para kunyari may luha na iba talaga nagagawa ng pera.
Can someone file something sa mga babaeng ito. There are real victims out there, fighting a battle. Kayo naman gawa lang ng kwento. The problem with lying is you must create a series of lies to support the first lie .
Pabago-bago ng statement yung Roxanne. Sabi di daw pala sa Astoria, probinsiyana daw kasi. Tapos di maalala yung exact date ng rape. Kaloka lang si ate. Di alam kung kailan na rape. Pagkakaalam ko sa mga victim tandang-tanda kung kailan at saan ang crime.
ReplyDeleteParang c deniece lang, pabago2x din. Mula attempted rape hanggang rape na hanggang 2 beses na rape. Ano pa ba ieexpect natin eh iisa scripwriter nila
DeleteEh ano kung probinsyana!! if excuse yan ni Roxanne dapat batuhin yan ng kamatis kasi discrimination yan sa mga taga probinsya. Ako probinsyana rin pero d ako sumasama sa mga lalaki sa dis oras nang gabi...T@ng@ lang ang peg ng kiwi model na yan
DeleteImpossible na mkalimutan nia ung date kng kelan xa narape.... I was once a victim at kahit 8yrs na ang nka lipas tandang tanda q pa ung araw kng kelan un ngyari! Makakalimutan q pa bday q pero not that day!
DeleteEh paano ba yan vice, sabi nina roxanne sa interview sa GMA, iba daw ang date at ang hotel?
ReplyDeleteKaloka, biglang iniba nila ang date and hotel
Roxanne! lahat ng rape victims NEVER as in NEVER nila makalimutan ang araw at oras ng pangrerape sa kanila. kayo lang yata ni deniece ang nacoconfuse sa datss ng panggagahasa sa inyo! mukha talaga kayong pera noh? kalokah! gusto lang sumikat
ReplyDeleteNot true, maraming victims, bina block sa conscious mind nila ang traumatic event sa life nila just to move on. You have to be a pscychologist or psychiatrist to understand the human behavior.
Deleteyes they can block it but as soon as something triggers it, it can all come crashing back to them. details may not be as exact but they will eventually remember.
Deletepero anon 1:00 yung hotel naman ba makakalimutan? parang malabo naman promise
Deleteyung date baka pwede makalimutan. pero ang hotel, medyo malabo yun. paano kaya malulusutan ito ng kampo nung roxan na yan ang error na ito? fatal ito sa kaso. sa technicality sila titrahin ng kampo ni vhong.
Delete1:30AM, not everyone can remember every exact details , not eventually, it still needs time and help to remember them.
DeleteAt anon 1am, i have to agree with u however, again, the alleged rape happened only 1 time. You cant just possibly forget the date, let alone the place. I say, bull$h*t on this one. Nakakaawa ang mga real victims, ginawa nilang katawa-tawa
DeleteWhatever excuse ang sasabihin ni Roxanne, nakalimutan man or hindi. Sabihin man ng psychologist or psychiatrist na possible ang mental block. One thing is for sure, if ipakita sa psychologist iyong mga interviews ni Roxanne from Bandila and sa GMA, many times nagpopoint mata niya sa left upper, which indicates a person is constructing a story that has not happened in the past. Therefore, she is lying.
DeleteMedical certificate please.
DeleteAnd sabi nila, matagal nila pinag aralan bago i file, bakit hindi niya ni recall ng maayus. Cguro yung date or time pwede pa makalimutan pro yung hotel, impossible. Dahil dun kayo naka check in.tsk tsk
DeleteAnon 1:00 bina-block nila consciously, pero embedded yan sa subconscious ng victims. gusto nila kalimutan, pero never nilang nakakalimutan, kaya nga sila naguundergo ng intensive therapy eh. you have to be a psychologist to understand inner human behavior.
DeleteEh ang ganda nmn ksi ng kwento niya.. dba it happened dw that night after nagstudio audience sila sa showtime.." so hinding hindi niya malilimutan ang date...
Delete@Anon 1:00: Yeah i know that some block the actual incident... but not this case... they can even remember the date/time or even the flow of discussion yung mga words na sinasabi daw ni vhong naalala nila... but yung Date and Location hindi nila maalala....
Deleteif they can't remember it... why force yourself to submit a questionable date/location as your affidavit
those who block it are those who got traumatized really bad. In their case, where's trauma?
Deletecoming from someone who had an attempted rape experience, we do try to block/forget that traumatic experience. i have forgotten when exactly it happened, though i still have an idea kung saan and what happened. at first, hindi mo makalimutan but as time goes by, you move on and go on with your life. but my experience was attempted lang and i got out of it safely naman. not sure pag may rape na talagang nangyari
Deletedaig pa sya ng lolo ko, pakwento ka ng tungkol sa panahon ng hapon, daming ikekwento pati lugar, yung pangalan nung amerikanong general na nakasama nila, etc. Samantalang tong roxanne na to bata pa, ulyanin na!
ReplyDeleteI believe her, Rape is a serious crime, no one in their right mind will just accuse someone of rape.
ReplyDeleteMany victims block it out from their mind. Roxanne needs to go under hypnosis to remember the traumatic event.
hypnosis is not a very reliable source. you can be hypnotized but only if you choose be. proof? my psychology prof was asked to be hypnotized as part of a study but it never happened. she wasn't hypnotized
DeleteRape IS a serious crime. Pero teh 12:48, kung sa interview pa lang may conviction ka na and detailed ang time and date and you specifically said na "TANDANG-TANDA" mo lahat ng nangyari, tapos biglang babaguhin mo at ieexcuse mo eh probinsiyana ka, hindi yan simpleng "blocking from the mind". and tawag dun LYING.
DeleteYes, rape indeed is a very serious crime. It would forever taint the name of the one accused. Definitely, Roxanne and Deniece are out of their minds.
DeleteYes, no one in their right mind will just accuse someone of rape. So it just shows that she's not on her right mind. And a person who's not in her right mind can accuse anybody for the sake of money or other things.
DeleteMoney talks... there's a lot of cases where rape are accused to politicians/actors just to squeezed money out of them...
Deleteconfused ba si Roxanne sa date ng rape pero ang bulldog Hinding-Hindi nakalaimutan..ano daw yun!!
ReplyDeletehahahahaha correct ka jan
Deleteat sinabi pa nyang tandang-tanda nya yung cellphone number ni vhong
DeleteAt sinabi pa niyang THEY REMAINED FRIENDS daw. Wala akong alam na nirape na nakikipag-"friends" parin sa rapist. Ang alam kong taong natrauma eh lumalayo, iwinawaksi and nadidiri sa umabuso sa kaniya.
Deletethe exact date of sexual assault is useless what should control is the fact of the commission of the rape the proof of the penetration of the female organ People vs bunagan
ReplyDeletequalify the word penetration. complete penetration is not essential. even the slightest penetration of male genitalia to that of the female genitalia is enough to consummate rape. meaning kahit nadampi lang, rape na yon. people v. crisostomo or people v. butiong
DeleteAksaya sa oras at pera lang yang sila Deniece at Roxanne eh. Walang kasusta-sustansya ang pinagsasasabi! Naway ibasura na agad ang kaso nila laban kay Vhong.
ReplyDeleteipagpalagay natin na totoo yung isang comment dito na posible yung nakakalimutan kasi chuva chuva ganyan. pero bakit nagfile si roxanne ng affidavit na nagcoconfirm nga na kung anong date siya ni-rape at kung sang hotel sila nakacheck in. e di sana beforehand palang sinabi na niyang hindi niya maalala. kagrabe. grabe talaga
ReplyDeleteThis! Legal doc yung affidavit eh sworn statement nga eh. Kung ano nakalagay doon dapat fact. Kung hindi sure sa mga specific facts dapat sinabi. Bobarns din yung abogado nila eh dapat iniexplain yun sa kliyente. Sabagay hindi pala talaga abogado gumawa nun kundi script writer. Tsk.
DeleteAnd in addition to that, whatever new date they would file will be unrealiable since it is suppose to be same day that they guested in Vhong's show unless iba rin ung date nung guesting sa Showtime (?).
DeleteKorek..pumirma sya so meaning she is sure of it...at reason nya pa na probinsyana sya kya nkalimutan ang date at hotel? I dont think so...
DeleteAt teka lang naman Probinsyana din ako, i first stepped foot sa Manila at the age of 20 and ang unang-una kong tinatandaan ay kung saang lugar ako. Boplax talaga itong Roxanne!
Deleteyang rape case nila deniece and roxanne, mababasura lang yan ng korte. kasi ni isang proof wala naman sila e. it's just their word against vhong. playboy man si vhong, iba ang playboy sa rapist. and sa tinagal tagal nya showbiz makikita naman ano ang character ni vhong eh. wala kahit anong tsismis na may nakaaway o may binastos. itong 2 babae lang na to ang sobrang kakapal ng mukha para manira ng pangalan ni vhong. lalo na yang roxanne. magpaganda ka muna teh para may mang rape na tlga syo.
ReplyDeleteoxanne reminds me of someone. What's her name again? Ah, yes! Deniece!! That's it! Para lang siyang si Deniece, pabago bago ng statements. Gamitin din sana ang brain cells Roxanne hindi puro gamit ng gamit ng foundation. Payo ko lang, hanap ka kaya ng shade ng foundation na kapareha ng skin mo and blend blend blend.
ReplyDeletePak! Yun na! Dark brown bagay dyan
DeleteMinsan mas ok na di isapubliko mga alas na pangontra ng side ni Vhong para di na mabago ng mga sinungaling na kalaban version nila. Masurprise kumbaga na sopla pala sila and too late na to revise.
ReplyDeleteSige lets give Roxanne the benefit of the doubt na sa sobrang trauma eh hindi nya maalala ang exact details. Sabi nya inikwento nya sa sister and friend nya. Edi they should be able to confirm kahit man lang date kung kailan kinwento sa kanya to support roxannes claim. Siguro naman hindi rin natrauma yung pinagkwentohan nya diba.
ReplyDeletedi nman nya pede ibahin ang date kasi nung april 24 pinakita na nandun nga sila sa showtime tapos nun din araw na yon may staff ng showtime kumuha daw ng number nya?? anyare?
ReplyDeletedpat bago sya nag file inalam mna nya yong tama, pra di sya katawatawa. porke wala si Vhong nong April 24 at madaming makakapag testify non, biglang iibahin yong date,nkakaloka. pareho lng sila ni Deniece, matibay na evidence nmn na attempted lang ni file nya, ngayon not only once but twice na rape hahaha... kawawa tlga yong mga totoong na rape ng dahil sa knila.
ReplyDeleteNo one can forgot ng date..time at place ng attempted rape or rape kung totoo tong nangyari. I'm an attempted rape victim at ung mga scenes na un ay paulit ulit na nakikita ko sa isip ko. Imposible na makalimutan ang totoong details ganitong krimen. Sino pa ang maniniwala sa aming mga TUNAY na biktima.
ReplyDeleteIlang beses na kaya narape tong si roxanne...alangan naman once lang hindi pa matandaan ang date at place...! As much as i want to sympathized with her being the 'victim' pero she couldnt even get her story straight.
ReplyDeletenanaginip lang ata ang lin**k na ginahasa sya
ReplyDeleteBinago yung place and date na rape sya pano kasi alam nabisto na imposible kahit probinsyana ka siguro nmn marunong kang magbasa nakasali ka nga sa beauty pagent so ibig sabihin di ka ganun ka shunga para di malaman yung name manlang nung hotel na tinuluyan nya pag interview nya di pa nga tumutulo yung luha nya lagay kagad ng tissue sa mata para kunyari may luha na iba talaga nagagawa ng pera.
ReplyDeletei dont think nangagahasa/rape si vhong. eh ang payat payat nya. kawawa nga sya ng mabugbog.
ReplyDeleteCan someone file something sa mga babaeng ito. There are real victims out there, fighting a battle. Kayo naman gawa lang ng kwento. The problem with lying is you must create a series of lies to support the first lie .
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