Yes Virginia, because restricting the free flow of a ideas and opinions and free speech that is supposedly guaranteed and provided for by the country's democratic system to its citizens is such a trivial matter to even warrant attention, much less discussion.
Before anything else, sana wifi will be FREE and available for metro manila unlimitedly. Tama na ang greed ibalik naman ang good service for all telecom subscribers. In other countries free naman tlaga lang ang wifi zones.
ate. 3rd world tayo. wag mo icompare sa ibang bansa. lahat may bayad na ngayon. before anything else, mas marami pang mas importante kesa sa free wifi zones mo!
Nope, in Europe hindi libre ang wi-fi. Magugulat ka kc mas mayaman sila kesa atin, sadly you pay for connection. Mga tao dun libro pa rin ang hawak-hawak.
so kung 3rd world tayo...wala na tayong karapatan na magkaroon ng wifi zone? kalurkey ka ha! parang hindi ka rin naghahanap ng free wifi zone or siguro wala ng gadgets na may wifi!
There's nothing wrong with free wifi zones. The problem is there are a ton of more important things that the government should deal with than making sure everyone gets to check their facebook. Try informal settlers, healthcare, education, infrastructure.. and the list goes on. If you can afford to buy a wifi-capable gadget, you should be able to pay for your connectivity.
Naghihiganti si nancy! LOL. Freedom of speech dpat mapa social media pa yan karapatan ntin yan. Sorry nlang sya kung pikon sya dba? Kung ako sknya paghusayan na lang nya ang trabho nia jan
I'll go for MDS on any given day! Nancy Binay? You've got to be kidding me! I guess this is her way of getting back to those who "bullied" her online during the campaign season.
patawa ka haha ni hindi nga si maja fluent mag english .... nung tanungin siya ni charlene kung ano asset niya sagot ba naman eh ung malaking bahay niya daw susmeee!
Ah kaya pala si Maja iniopen sa interviews yung SALN niya. Hahaha. Paalala ko lang. Pag sinabing best asset, physical features yun. Paki-tweet sa idol mo. Dun sa mga sh-nga na pinipilit na asset din ang two-storey house, hahaha, maipilit lang.
Feeling ko basher yn ni maja. Kc kng idol mo d nya sna isisingit para d ma okray ng iba.. minsan mga basher todo puri to the highest level sa kalaban para malait ng iba..
Mas madaling solusyunan ang free wifi kesa sa transportation. Saka dapat mahiya sa turista, e di ba wagas lang kung maka "Its More Fun in the Philippines" tayo? pag ba naginvite kayo ng bisita sa bahay nyong madumi mas nahihiya kayo sa kamaganak nyong kasama nyo sa bahay kesa sa bisita?
That is the most absurd reason why you are going to allow your government to regulate social media... Impact on the youth? That is their parent's job to guide their children through the internet.. Have they heard of such a thing as the parental control setting on their computer? They don't know about it? Then they shouldn't be allowing their kids to use the internet unsupervised.
The social media when you filter out all the crap that the unsupervised tweens publish, is mostly beneficial. TRUTH: SOCIAL MEDIA FREED A NATION IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
So you are just going to compromise the rights of many people for the few over-sharing, bashing, and trolling tweens..
Regulate social media? Hindi ba mas magandang ituro ang social media etiquette? O kaya turuan ang mga kabataan na maging responsable sa pag-iinternet lalo't ang daming scammer at potential sexual predators na naglipana sa web?
beep beep lang pero sobra na tayo sa freedom of the press. di na nga minsan ma distinguish ang difference ng editorial sa commentary eh. nanunuod ba kayo ng balita? o kahit nakikinig sa radyo ng balita? kahit habang ni rereport nila ang isang live na balita meron at meron paring "side comments" yan ba ang resposible media? kahit ano pa yan. social media, internet, television, radio, magazine, newspaper lahat nalang ang sinasabi nila "freedom of the press" pero ang na papansin ko e panay komentaryong walang katuturan. It's true na nakakatulong sa ibang circumstances ang media pero naisip din ba ng media kung gaano nila nababali ang norm? kung anong mali ay pilit na nagiging tama. Wag sana magagalit opinion ko lang po.
masyado naman tong si nancy. porke maraming opinyon mga tao sa kanya sa social media yan ififile nya, ano ba yan. selfish. daming pwedeng ifile na may katuturan.
I would have sided with Nancy on the regulation of social media if not for the fact that she is doing this for herself and not really for the Filipinos. If this is true, she better be prepared to be bashed some more. However if she will be bashed, she might use it as a support to the bill that will regulate social media.
miriam...you can't really regulate social media...it's the only way people can express their opinions without fear of persecution...why not focus the govt's energy on creating more jobs and improving the educational system? now that's worth talking about...if you really know yourself and you're firm in your beliefs, the bashers won't matter to you...because you know who you are..."in one ear, out the other"....
@anonymous 12.43 I think you must've misunderstood. Miriam on one hand wants to protect our right to internet use and to be able to express our opinion freely. While on the other hand, Binay wants to curtail this freedom.
@anonymous 2:26am, ikaw ata ang hindi naka-intindi ate. ang tanong kasi: "whose bill do you favor? why?". kaya ang sagot nya, Miriam. after nung maraming dots, yun yung reason nya why.
i agree with 12:43am. mas marami pang problema ang bansa kesa sa social media issue na yan.
Nancy bakit ka ba gumagawa ng mga reason para i-bash ka lalo ng mga tao? Seryoso tingin mo talaga eto ang pinakamagandang pwede mong gawin sa mga bumoto sa'yo?
salamat s TFC at may ANC, i can watch the debate!!! Sen. Defensor brings the house down! we can learn highfalutin' words and be more interested with laws being passed because of her..
Corrupt Government, walang trabaho, maraming nag hihirap at nagugutom, kinukuha na ng China ang islands natin... pero unahain na muna natin ang social media problem kasi mas importante ito. Dapat sa dalawang ito bitayin.
So, threat lang sa social media ang tingin mo sa issue na ito? Wala syang kinalaman at all sa curtailment of our freedom of expression? Push mo yan, teh.
You missed my point. Gawing kong madali para maintindihan mo ha? Ganito kasi yon... yung Boat is sinking. Tapos ang pinoproblema mo eh yung peeling paint nung boat. Ano ang gusto mong unahin gawin? Save the sinking ship or keep the paint looking good? Gets mo na? Pinadali ko na yan ha?
Wow, hindi mo parin ma get ang point ko??? UUnahin mo pa ang social media problem BEFORE yung pag lubog ng bansa natin? Honey?? Look around you. Sinasakop na tayo ng China kasi wala tayong pang defend sa ating bansa kasi ninakaw na ng corrupt government natin. Wala akong sinasabing bawasan ang rights sa social media or controlin. Ang POINT ko is to make the country better first kesa deal with a minor problem. Siguro naman gugustuhin ni Karl Marx na ituwid muna ang government before dealing with Personal liberties. Kapag nakuha tayo ng China, sa tinging mo pag uusapan pa natin ang Personal Liberties problem? Mag isip ka nga teh.
Marx's theories about society, economics and politics—collectively known as Marxism—hold that human societies progress through class struggle: a conflict between an ownership class that controls production and a proletariat that provides the labour for production. He called capitalism the "dictatorship of the bourgeoisie," believing it to be run by the wealthy classes for their own benefit; and he predicted that, like previous socioeconomic systems, capitalism produced internal tensions which would lead to its self-destruction and replacement by a new system: socialism. He argued that under socialism society would be governed by the working class in what he called the "dictatorship of the proletariat", the "workers' state" or "workers' democracy".[8][9] He believed that socialism would eventually give rise to a stateless, classless society called communism. Along with believing in the inevitability of socialism and communism, Marx actively fought for the former's implementation, arguing that social theorists and underprivileged people alike should carry out organised revolutionary action to topple capitalism and bring about socio-economic change.[10]
Ayan ha, nag re search na ako ate binasa ko pa. Sabi doon sa dulo... "Along with believing in the inevitability of socialism and communism, Marx actively fought for the former's implementation, arguing that social theorists and underprivileged people alike should carry out organised revolutionary action to topple capitalism and bring about socio-economic change". Ok, I GOT YOUR POINT pero and POINT ko, there are more pressing problems than social media. Do you think yung mga nagugutom sa street cares about social media? Ate, wala silang makain, sa tingin mo ba mag iinternet pa sila at mag faface book? Uunahin muna nila ang kanilang nagugutom na tiyan bago problemahin ang social media. Hindi ko sinasabing hindi mahalaga ang social media rights, ang sinasabi ko lang, may mas malaking problema sa bansa natin na dapat unahin bago ang social media rights.
I'm sure marami diyan sa congress and senate na magsusupport kay binay (remember cybercrime act) pero of course kay senator miriam ako. Couldnt bear to call binay senator. Ang far fetched naman kasi, wala naman experience whatsoever.
I guess because of the blooming of social media nowadays it has to be regulated. Many peaple spend most of their time here and it is a big deal. It can be used for illegalities.
Finally read Binay's bill. Okay naman its about electronic violence against women. Parang lumaki ang scope ng VAWC, pang online version ng existing VAWC law. mIt seems good for women
I'm for safeguarding internet freedom. What we need is extensive education on internet etiquette, specifically on the proper use of social media. This is something the education department and schools can work on their own. The current RPC and civil code can be updated - they need to be updated as it is anyway so that crimes and civil cases that may stem from abusing social media are properly updated. We don't need another separate law per se - we have too many laws. What we have always needed is political will. That said, Manila Water and Maynilad have to be crucified for over charging consumers. Shouldn't these 2 focus on this issue more as of this time? Water is a public utility. Threats on regulating social media can easily be sensationalized but the water utility issue is more pressing.
Hindi magandang sign ang ginawa ni Nancy. Ginamit niya ang posisyon niya at authority niya para lamang sa pan sariling interes. tsk tsk!
Nakakatakot ang mga ganyan. Hindi mo alam kung ano ang pwede nilang gawin at kaya nilang gawin habang nasa posisyon pa sila. Amoy na amoy namin ang tunay at totoo mong motibo. Hindi nito maitatago ang mapag kunwaring pagpo-protekta mo sa sambayanan. May hidden agenda ka
Nancy can very well relate to cyber bullying which is probably why she is making this bill. But isnt she "OLD" and "MATURE" enough to handle such things? Grow up.
Even though she has been appointed to the International Court, she has requested to be the last of the six newly elected judges to take her post to allow her more time to fulfill her responsibilities as a senator.
kailangan pa bang itanong yan? Sen. Santiago cyempre. Sen. Binay may hire the best lawyers in her payroll pero pagdating sa pagpasa ng batas dadaan pa yan sa pagdebate and im sure sa debate pa lang talbog na.hahahaha
as if papayag si Nancy sa Debate. hello meron siyang temporary protection order against any discussion (debate) which is not temporary but lifetome order na! haahhaha
Miriam for the win! Joking aside, let these two take the floor why their agenda/proposals should be supported. I'd be very, very interested to see how Nancy will fare with Miriam there to throttle her, lol.
huwag maging shu**a, basahin muna ang bill ng dalawa. yung kay binay eh may pananagutan ka kapag ang binabash mo eh related sa yo. halimbawa eh kamag-anak, kamag-aral, ka-trabaho, kaibigan o kapitbahay. magalit kayo kung ang bill ni binay eh nagbabawal sa kabayong lumabas sa telebisyon.
Matagal naman nang regulated ang speech sa internet.. pasok naman sa Libel law at electronic evidence law naman yang online bashing. The law and jurisprudence define what is considered as bashing. Kung wala yan sa law eh di hindi tayo anonymous at hindi BI ang articles ni FP :)
Ibalik ang Martial Law para madisiplina ang mga Pilipinong pasaway lalo na sa internet. Upload lang nang upload, click lang nang click. Di inisip kung below the belt na.
sa dami ng problema ng pinas,ito pang bill na to ang gusto nyang ipasa,walang kakuwenta-kuwenta!ang dami kasing basher ni binay kaya gusto nyang ipasa ang bill na yan!
I'll go for Miriam for this Issue. Why regulate Social media? This is a Free Country. I agree with Gee, it's the parents who are responsible to guide their children. At tayo naman, we really have to be mature. Hindi porket we can use Anon, we have the right to bash people. Kaya those who are bashing some celebrities, mahiya nga kayo. They do have feelings; tao lang rin sila. If you're brave enough, then don't hide behind your computer. Stop using Anon and show yourself. At bakit napasok ang WiFi dito? For Tourists? Nakakahiya sa Turista? Pwede ba, pumupunta ang mga turista dito dahil sa magagandang lugar sa Pinas, hindi para makikonek sa WiFi para makapag FB at Instagram.
sen,miriam winner,binay loser!wag mong gamitin binay ang posisyon mo para sa pansariling interest mo!umisip ka ng paraan kung paano uuunlad ang pinas,hindi kung anu-anong walang kuwentang bill na iyan ang pinag-aaksayahan mo ng panahon!
Binay looks like Sarah G here!
ReplyDelete=))
DeleteHaters gonna Hate!
DeleteHahaha nakakatawa naman ang pangarap mo
DeleteNapatingin talaga ako sa picture ni senator binay! hahaha
DeleteHa? Parang di naman :)))
Deletesan banda te? mkpng okray Lang eh no?
Deletebakit parang ang daming haters ni sarah g dito?!
DeleteNANCY BINAY, GO BACK TO BEING OJT, ANO NEXT SA PLANO MO, MARTIAL LAW????????
Delete12:10 tagos sa buto mo ang pagkamuhi mo. hindi maganda sa iyo yan! relax lang, put a little love in your heart.
DeleteAy nako. Mukhang masaya to!
ReplyDeleteCympre c mirriam you cannot control social media kaya
ReplyDeletenapaka-self serving ng bill ni Binay! ano next? Martial Law?! ay naku, tigilan nya ako! Magpakatino siya no! mahiya naman siya!
Deleteayan ang hinihintay ng bayan! Debate na Gow!
ReplyDeleteNakow ha. Debate with sen.santiago. Baka iseset plng ang date umatras na si nancy
DeleteMismo! nyahaha!
Deletehahaha!! Ok ako diyan sa debate pero baka himatayin si Binay! Sa anak nga lang, nanginginig na! hahaha!
DeleteTeam nancy
ReplyDeleteAnu ba yan ang dami pwede problemahin yan ang inuuna..nakakadismaya hinyaan nga nila ung problema dito sa taiwan!
ReplyDeleteHindi porket may ibang problema kailangan na kalimutan ang iba.
DeleteBinasura nila ang issue ng taiwan fyi.
DeleteYes Virginia, because restricting the free flow of a ideas and opinions and free speech that is supposedly guaranteed and provided for by the country's democratic system to its citizens is such a trivial matter to even warrant attention, much less discussion.
DeleteSo help me God!
DeleteBefore anything else, sana wifi will be FREE and available for metro manila unlimitedly. Tama na ang greed ibalik naman ang good service for all telecom subscribers. In other countries free naman tlaga lang ang wifi zones.
ReplyDeleteate. 3rd world tayo. wag mo icompare sa ibang bansa. lahat may bayad na ngayon. before anything else, mas marami pang mas importante kesa sa free wifi zones mo!
DeleteNope, in Europe hindi libre ang wi-fi. Magugulat ka kc mas mayaman sila kesa atin, sadly you pay for connection. Mga tao dun libro pa rin ang hawak-hawak.
Deleteso kung 3rd world tayo...wala na tayong karapatan na magkaroon ng wifi zone? kalurkey ka ha! parang hindi ka rin naghahanap ng free wifi zone or siguro wala ng gadgets na may wifi!
DeleteLive somewhere else lol impossible yan dyan sa pinas haha
DeleteThailand is a 3rd world country too yet Bangkok and other key cities have several free wifi zones.
DeleteSuch lame excuses can only come from mediocre minds. The 'pwede-na-yan' attitude.
tama si Anon 3:03AM naloka ako ha, try mo tumakbo, maypag-asa pa yan
Deleteay naku, kung walang budget sa unli data, bumalik sa desktop! wag magpanggap!
DeleteThere's nothing wrong with free wifi zones. The problem is there are a ton of more important things that the government should deal with than making sure everyone gets to check their facebook. Try informal settlers, healthcare, education, infrastructure.. and the list goes on. If you can afford to buy a wifi-capable gadget, you should be able to pay for your connectivity.
Deletetambay ka na lang ng sm teh :))
Delete2:15pm ang dami rin free wifi zones sa Pinas just like in Thailand
DeleteMatinding labanan yan. Lalo na sa Facebook & Twitter, lagot Nancyyy :))
ReplyDeleteSi Sen. Miriam... Si nancy pampam lang yan:))
ReplyDeleteNaghihiganti si nancy! LOL. Freedom of speech dpat mapa social media pa yan karapatan ntin yan. Sorry nlang sya kung pikon sya dba? Kung ako sknya paghusayan na lang nya ang trabho nia jan
DeleteI'll go for MDS on any given day! Nancy Binay? You've got to be kidding me! I guess this is her way of getting back to those who "bullied" her online during the campaign season.
ReplyDeleteTrue. Unang una sya ksi ang makikinabang sa bill na yan.
DeleteKorek! Unang una pun was intended because of her lack of knowledge & experience. Kaya siya napag initan na at walang takot na asarin siya
Deletetama!
DeleteTruly!
DeleteMirriam is as smart as Maja while binay looks like SG! hahhahahahahah!
ReplyDeleteOk ka lng?ang Sentido komon!minsan gnagamit,meron ka b ny?maisingit lng,utak m paki pulot！
DeleteMaisingit lang idol nyang majarot..
DeleteHa? Nag jo joke po ba kayo ateh? Smart si maja? Articulate? As in pooling ubjict?
DeleteIgulong natin yan teh!! Ambisyosa!
Deletepatawa ka haha ni hindi nga si maja fluent mag english .... nung tanungin siya ni charlene kung ano asset niya sagot ba naman eh ung malaking bahay niya daw susmeee!
DeleteAh kaya pala si Maja iniopen sa interviews yung SALN niya. Hahaha. Paalala ko lang. Pag sinabing best asset, physical features yun. Paki-tweet sa idol mo. Dun sa mga sh-nga na pinipilit na asset din ang two-storey house, hahaha, maipilit lang.
DeleteWen karma naks talaga!
DeleteKapi Kat
Feeling ko basher yn ni maja. Kc kng idol mo d nya sna isisingit para d ma okray ng iba.. minsan mga basher todo puri to the highest level sa kalaban para malait ng iba..
Deletehala. epal lang? HAHAHAHA
DeleteFree wifi nlng sa bansa natin nakakahiya sa mga tourista
ReplyDeletehahaha. tama ka dyan!
Deletedi ba pwedeng mahiya muna sa sariling kababayan bago mga turista?
Deletesa turista ka pa talaga nahiya!
Deletebaka naman turista siya
Deletelol mas nakakahiya kaya ung napakaraming pinoy na naggagancho ng mga turista. taxi drivers pa lang e
Deleteaanhin mo ang wifi kung pangit ang transportation natin? what's the use of inviting people kung di tayo marunong maglinis?
DeleteMas madaling solusyunan ang free wifi kesa sa transportation. Saka dapat mahiya sa turista, e di ba wagas lang kung maka "Its More Fun in the Philippines" tayo? pag ba naginvite kayo ng bisita sa bahay nyong madumi mas nahihiya kayo sa kamaganak nyong kasama nyo sa bahay kesa sa bisita?
Deleteagain, wag umasa sa free! kung walang budget sa unli data, itapon ang android at pumunta ng internet cafe!
DeleteMas nakakahiya yung wifi capable ang gadget mo pero wala kang pambayad ng internet! Ang jeje lang ha.
DeleteKaya lang naman gusto ng free wifi magke-Candy Crush lang. Wala ba kayong pang-Unli Data?
Deletei am all for regulation of social media --- if only people knew the impact on the youth...it can ruin their future or at worst, cause their demise....
ReplyDeleteTulog ka na, gurl.
DeleteYeah its true..example nlng mga nagttrend sa twiter
DeleteOn twitter you can see the evedince jusko sa trending topic palang puro iniidolo nola ang trending
DeleteThat is the most absurd reason why you are going to allow your government to regulate social media... Impact on the youth? That is their parent's job to guide their children through the internet.. Have they heard of such a thing as the parental control setting on their computer? They don't know about it? Then they shouldn't be allowing their kids to use the internet unsupervised.
DeleteThe social media when you filter out all the crap that the unsupervised tweens publish, is mostly beneficial. TRUTH: SOCIAL MEDIA FREED A NATION IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
So you are just going to compromise the rights of many people for the few over-sharing, bashing, and trolling tweens..
Well said Gee.
DeleteI agree with GEE 100 percent. Brilliant argument.
DeleteRegulate social media? Hindi ba mas magandang ituro ang social media etiquette? O kaya turuan ang mga kabataan na maging responsable sa pag-iinternet lalo't ang daming scammer at potential sexual predators na naglipana sa web?
DeleteKapi Kat
Bakit kaya ang China banned ang FB pero maunlad pa rin?
Deletebeep beep lang pero sobra na tayo sa freedom of the press. di na nga minsan ma distinguish ang difference ng editorial sa commentary eh. nanunuod ba kayo ng balita? o kahit nakikinig sa radyo ng balita? kahit habang ni rereport nila ang isang live na balita meron at meron paring "side comments" yan ba ang resposible media? kahit ano pa yan. social media, internet, television, radio, magazine, newspaper lahat nalang ang sinasabi nila "freedom of the press" pero ang na papansin ko e panay komentaryong walang katuturan. It's true na nakakatulong sa ibang circumstances ang media pero naisip din ba ng media kung gaano nila nababali ang norm? kung anong mali ay pilit na nagiging tama. Wag sana magagalit opinion ko lang po.
DeleteGEE: Korek!
Deletemasyado naman tong si nancy. porke maraming opinyon mga tao sa kanya sa social media yan ififile nya, ano ba yan. selfish. daming pwedeng ifile na may katuturan.
ReplyDeleteMagsenador ka din angmagpasa ng sarili mong bill. Wala kang magagawa nanalo na siya.
DeleteI would have sided with Nancy on the regulation of social media if not for the fact that she is doing this for herself and not really for the Filipinos. If this is true, she better be prepared to be bashed some more. However if she will be bashed, she might use it as a support to the bill that will regulate social media.
ReplyDeleteMascots.
ReplyDeleteCan we really regulate social media? If so, how??
ReplyDeleteI'll go with sen. Mirriam! Freedom for all! Takot lang kcng mabash ulit si sen binay kaya yan ang una nyang ipapasang bil
ReplyDeleteit's ridiculous to regulate one's freedom of expression. If you can regulate freedom.... would it still be called "freedom"?
ReplyDeleteMy popcorn is ready
prang impossible naman ata yung gusto ni nancy, it's like taking control of the internet itself..good luck with that!! haha
ReplyDeletenaiimagine ko itsura ni nancy pag debate na. bwahaha
ReplyDeletenamumutla?? o lalong mangingitim??? hahaha NANCY FUNNY!!!
Deletemiriam...you can't really regulate social media...it's the only way people can express their opinions without fear of persecution...why not focus the govt's energy on creating more jobs and improving the educational system? now that's worth talking about...if you really know yourself and you're firm in your beliefs, the bashers won't matter to you...because you know who you are..."in one ear, out the other"....
ReplyDeleteAmen..
Delete@anonymous 12.43 I think you must've misunderstood. Miriam on one hand wants to protect our right to internet use and to be able to express our opinion freely. While on the other hand, Binay wants to curtail this freedom.
DeleteAnonymous 12:43 ok na sana mga sinabi mo, but I think you're barking at the wrong tree, you should address your message to Nancy not Miriam!
Delete@anonymous 2:26am, ikaw ata ang hindi naka-intindi ate. ang tanong kasi: "whose bill do you favor? why?". kaya ang sagot nya, Miriam. after nung maraming dots, yun yung reason nya why.
Deletei agree with 12:43am. mas marami pang problema ang bansa kesa sa social media issue na yan.
Uh-oh. Wrong lady to mess with, Binay. Kakainin ka ng buhay nyan. Mag practice ka muna sa bahay nyo.
ReplyDeleteNancy bakit ka ba gumagawa ng mga reason para i-bash ka lalo ng mga tao? Seryoso tingin mo talaga eto ang pinakamagandang pwede mong gawin sa mga bumoto sa'yo?
ReplyDeleteay bongga! bet ko ito... ang mga pamatay na linya ni madam senator kaabang abang tlg.
ReplyDeleteVIPER vs. TARSIER
ReplyDeleteKALURKEY!
Deletesalamat s TFC at may ANC, i can watch the debate!!! Sen. Defensor brings the house down! we can learn highfalutin' words and be more interested with laws being passed because of her..
ReplyDeleteCorrupt Government, walang trabaho, maraming nag hihirap at nagugutom, kinukuha na ng China ang islands natin... pero unahain na muna natin ang social media problem kasi mas importante ito. Dapat sa dalawang ito bitayin.
ReplyDeleteSo, threat lang sa social media ang tingin mo sa issue na ito? Wala syang kinalaman at all sa curtailment of our freedom of expression? Push mo yan, teh.
Deletetamah. kasi they don't want to be creticized by people on the net. they don't want their baho to be exposed.
DeleteTo Anonymous July 4, 2013 at 8:00 AM:
DeleteYou missed my point. Gawing kong madali para maintindihan mo ha? Ganito kasi yon... yung Boat is sinking. Tapos ang pinoproblema mo eh yung peeling paint nung boat. Ano ang gusto mong unahin gawin? Save the sinking ship or keep the paint looking good? Gets mo na? Pinadali ko na yan ha?
@2:44 AM: Oh, I get it alright. Personal liberties are nothing bit a coat of paint. Again, push mo yan. Go and do Karl Marx proud.
DeleteAnonymous July 5, 2013 at 5:08 AM
DeleteWow, hindi mo parin ma get ang point ko??? UUnahin mo pa ang social media problem BEFORE yung pag lubog ng bansa natin? Honey?? Look around you. Sinasakop na tayo ng China kasi wala tayong pang defend sa ating bansa kasi ninakaw na ng corrupt government natin. Wala akong sinasabing bawasan ang rights sa social media or controlin. Ang POINT ko is to make the country better first kesa deal with a minor problem. Siguro naman gugustuhin ni Karl Marx na ituwid muna ang government before dealing with Personal liberties. Kapag nakuha tayo ng China, sa tinging mo pag uusapan pa natin ang Personal Liberties problem? Mag isip ka nga teh.
"Mad gugustuhin na Karl Marx na ituwid muna ang government before dealing with personal liberties."
DeleteUhm, wow. Spoken like done one who has a ABSOLUTELY no idea who Karl Marx was, and what he stood for in history.
Yup. Ignorance really is bliss. Hala, I'll go and leave you to marinate in yours na, gurl.
To Anonymous July 5, 2013 at 7:42 PM:
DeleteYeah, just keep rearranging that deck chairs sa titanic... maybe, that will keep it from sinking. Yup talagang ignorance is bliss...
To Anonymous July 5, 2013 at 7:42 PM:
DeleteEto ba yung Karl Marx na sinasabi mo?
Marx's theories about society, economics and politics—collectively known as Marxism—hold that human societies progress through class struggle: a conflict between an ownership class that controls production and a proletariat that provides the labour for production. He called capitalism the "dictatorship of the bourgeoisie," believing it to be run by the wealthy classes for their own benefit; and he predicted that, like previous socioeconomic systems, capitalism produced internal tensions which would lead to its self-destruction and replacement by a new system: socialism. He argued that under socialism society would be governed by the working class in what he called the "dictatorship of the proletariat", the "workers' state" or "workers' democracy".[8][9] He believed that socialism would eventually give rise to a stateless, classless society called communism. Along with believing in the inevitability of socialism and communism, Marx actively fought for the former's implementation, arguing that social theorists and underprivileged people alike should carry out organised revolutionary action to topple capitalism and bring about socio-economic change.[10]
Ayan ha, nag re search na ako ate binasa ko pa. Sabi doon sa dulo... "Along with believing in the inevitability of socialism and communism, Marx actively fought for the former's implementation, arguing that social theorists and underprivileged people alike should carry out organised revolutionary action to topple capitalism and bring about socio-economic change". Ok, I GOT YOUR POINT pero and POINT ko, there are more pressing problems than social media. Do you think yung mga nagugutom sa street cares about social media? Ate, wala silang makain, sa tingin mo ba mag iinternet pa sila at mag faface book? Uunahin muna nila ang kanilang nagugutom na tiyan bago problemahin ang social media. Hindi ko sinasabing hindi mahalaga ang social media rights, ang sinasabi ko lang, may mas malaking problema sa bansa natin na dapat unahin bago ang social media rights.
I'm sure marami diyan sa congress and senate na magsusupport kay binay (remember cybercrime act) pero of course kay senator miriam ako. Couldnt bear to call binay senator. Ang far fetched naman kasi, wala naman experience whatsoever.
ReplyDeleteI guess because of the blooming of social media nowadays it has to be regulated. Many peaple spend most of their time here and it is a big deal. It can be used for illegalities.
ReplyDeletePeople can also use pencils as a stabbing weapon - should they be regulated too?
DeleteMirriam Defensor, winner! Sana magdebate ang dalawa.
ReplyDeleteNagpapatawa ata itong si Nancy -___-
ReplyDeletedi ko type si nancy binay pero agree ako sa kanya dito.. with too much freedom, it can get very chaotic --- jackie chan
ReplyDeletethen go live in China.
DeleteKung makapag comment naman kayo as if nabasa niyo na ang mga bill. I bet wala ni isa nakabasa. Based on pic/meme lang ang comment
ReplyDeleteAnd you?
DeleteJudging by the covers huh?
DeleteWhat if I tell you nabasa ko na? And I reacted violently coz I know this is ridiculous? even if i have not read the bill
still
IT IS RIDICULOUS!
parang ikaw!
You're ridiculous and a JOKE to the society.
I support the Magna Carta for Philippine Internet Freedom (MCPIF)
DeleteFinally read Binay's bill. Okay naman its about electronic violence against women. Parang lumaki ang scope ng VAWC, pang online version ng existing VAWC law. mIt seems good for women
ReplyDeleteTEAM MIRIAM!
ReplyDeleteMirriam!
ReplyDeleteI'm for safeguarding internet freedom. What we need is extensive education on internet etiquette, specifically on the proper use of social media. This is something the education department and schools can work on their own. The current RPC and civil code can be updated - they need to be updated as it is anyway so that crimes and civil cases that may stem from abusing social media are properly updated. We don't need another separate law per se - we have too many laws. What we have always needed is political will. That said, Manila Water and Maynilad have to be crucified for over charging consumers. Shouldn't these 2 focus on this issue more as of this time? Water is a public utility. Threats on regulating social media can easily be sensationalized but the water utility issue is more pressing.
ReplyDeleteHindi magandang sign ang ginawa ni Nancy. Ginamit niya ang posisyon niya at authority niya para lamang sa pan sariling interes. tsk tsk!
ReplyDeleteNakakatakot ang mga ganyan. Hindi mo alam kung ano ang pwede nilang gawin at kaya nilang gawin habang nasa posisyon pa sila. Amoy na amoy namin ang tunay at totoo mong motibo. Hindi nito maitatago ang mapag kunwaring pagpo-protekta mo sa sambayanan. May hidden agenda ka
Nancy can very well relate to cyber bullying which is probably why she is making this bill. But isnt she "OLD" and "MATURE" enough to handle such things? Grow up.
ReplyDeleteI think more concern with the youth. A lot pf youths nowadays are victims of cyber bullying. Somehow, related to her bill.
DeleteGo Miriam... Although I though she will be working for United Nations na. What happened to that?
ReplyDeleteEven though she has been appointed to the International Court, she has requested to be the last of the six newly elected judges to take her post to allow her more time to fulfill her responsibilities as a senator.
DeleteSimulan na ang debate!
ReplyDeletekailangan pa bang itanong yan? Sen. Santiago cyempre. Sen. Binay may hire the best lawyers in her payroll pero pagdating sa pagpasa ng batas dadaan pa yan sa pagdebate and im sure sa debate pa lang talbog na.hahahaha
ReplyDeleteGosh kelan debate masaya toh hahaha
ReplyDeleteIf you were not a victim of social media bullying, you won't understand Nancy's part. Even minors are victims of this social media bullying.
ReplyDeleteAnd i will let this develop into a full time romance.. lolz
ReplyDeleteAtsaka, will be waiting for the memes to come~ nyahahaha
-budang
as if papayag si Nancy sa Debate. hello meron siyang temporary protection order against any discussion (debate) which is not temporary but lifetome order na! haahhaha
ReplyDeleteKelan ba yang debate na yan at mapanood nga
ReplyDeleteMiriam for the win! Joking aside, let these two take the floor why their agenda/proposals should be supported. I'd be very, very interested to see how Nancy will fare with Miriam there to throttle her, lol.
ReplyDeleteMiriam Defensor Santiago my idol! People should follow her footsteps... if they wanna make sabak in the pulitika!
ReplyDeletehuwag maging shu**a, basahin muna ang bill ng dalawa. yung kay binay eh may pananagutan ka kapag ang binabash mo eh related sa yo. halimbawa eh kamag-anak, kamag-aral, ka-trabaho, kaibigan o kapitbahay. magalit kayo kung ang bill ni binay eh nagbabawal sa kabayong lumabas sa telebisyon.
ReplyDelete..still a regulation of the freedom of speech...sino ba ang may karapatan tumuloy na ang isang post ay bash or katotohanan?...id say no to binays bill
DeleteMatagal naman nang regulated ang speech sa internet.. pasok naman sa Libel law at electronic evidence law naman yang online bashing. The law and jurisprudence define what is considered as bashing. Kung wala yan sa law eh di hindi tayo anonymous at hindi BI ang articles ni FP :)
Delete12:05 true!!!
DeleteMIriam all the way. Kamusta naman yang proposal mo Nancy? eh di hindi ka na namin mapapag-usapan dito pag napasa yung Bill mo di ba? BOOOORING!
ReplyDeleteIsang iniidolo s ainternet at isang kinabubwisitan sa internet hahaha magdeate muna sila...please!
ReplyDeleteIbalik ang Martial Law para madisiplina ang mga Pilipinong pasaway lalo na sa internet. Upload lang nang upload, click lang nang click. Di inisip kung below the belt na.
ReplyDeletesa dami ng problema ng pinas,ito pang bill na to ang gusto nyang ipasa,walang kakuwenta-kuwenta!ang dami kasing basher ni binay kaya gusto nyang ipasa ang bill na yan!
ReplyDeleteI'll go for Miriam for this Issue. Why regulate Social media? This is a Free Country. I agree with Gee, it's the parents who are responsible to guide their children. At tayo naman, we really have to be mature. Hindi porket we can use Anon, we have the right to bash people. Kaya those who are bashing some celebrities, mahiya nga kayo. They do have feelings; tao lang rin sila. If you're brave enough, then don't hide behind your computer. Stop using Anon and show yourself.
ReplyDeleteAt bakit napasok ang WiFi dito? For Tourists? Nakakahiya sa Turista? Pwede ba, pumupunta ang mga turista dito dahil sa magagandang lugar sa Pinas, hindi para makikonek sa WiFi para makapag FB at Instagram.
senator miriam bet ko!madaming basher kc c binay kaya gusto nyang ipasa ang bill na yan,para sa pansariling interest nya lang yan!
ReplyDeleteGo Sen. Miriam!!!
ReplyDeletekakasimula pa lang personal vendeta na agad inatupag ni Nancy.
ReplyDeletesen,miriam winner,binay loser!wag mong gamitin binay ang posisyon mo para sa pansariling interest mo!umisip ka ng paraan kung paano uuunlad ang pinas,hindi kung anu-anong walang kuwentang bill na iyan ang pinag-aaksayahan mo ng panahon!
ReplyDeleteHahaha, marami siguro sa inyo ang bumoto kay Nancy. Di na kayo makabash ng sobra sobra. Hahahaha
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